Re: [QUAD-L] here's the deal arizona quads...

2008-12-13 Thread Lori Michaelson
California is probably the most liberal state in the nation and has the most
programs over any other state.  So, if you think they are going to make
cutbacks there -- we are ALL going to be in deep kimsheee.

Tod answered the questions better than I could.

You sound like you have it pretty sweet there so, if I were you, I would be
afraid of jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire by moving but,
again and unfortunately, one has to live somewhere a year or more before
they know if they like it or not.

And with the new administration and the state of affairs going downhill --
no one knows what to *really*  expect until it all happens.  But I am sure
that you will still get your ss and ssi.

We (my husband and I) have been trying to move for the last four years but
it just is not panned out.  When the housing market was doing really
good 4-5 years ago there were many, many, many, many Californians selling
their homes for say $1 million or more and then buying ones much cheaper *
here* for cash.  Although, much cheaper for one person is not true for
another.

Why move to live on a hunk of desert dirt from CA?  Go figure.  If one can
afford to live in California - one is sitting pretty!  But now with the way
that housing market is - houses are not selling.  And it has been that way
for well over a year.  I think it is the same way in California but I'm sure
you have been paying attention to that aspect of it.  Or, it would be your
parent's problem.

Wowee.  I wish I had parents, or even myself, having the ability to own
two places in two very expensive exclusive areas.  Sounds like you're doing
great!

I wish I could help more but that is all I can say.  I am not on any
programs so we are just getting by the hard way.  Therefore, I am not on
top of them and what they are doing and when they are changing things, etc..

Best of luck,
Lori
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM, donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote:

   this is donald again,

 i currently live in the los angeles area. i'm single and have a live-in
 caregiver. i'm also unemployed and have been since my injury. i have lived
 here for most of my 41 years, and the few years i didn't were in bullhead
 city, az. where i was injured 18 years ago. my folks own the home i'm in now
 plus the one they live-in in bullhead. i'm thinking about moving to bullhead
 or phoenix soon because i think calif. will soon start cutting programs due
 to budget problems. parents could sell this home and buy me another cheaper
 in az.

 it has been a pretty good situation so far. i receive ss and ssi for money
 which is about 900.00 a month. for medical needs i get medicare and medi-cal
 and pay nothing for dr.'s, meds, and supplies including wheelchairs and
 repairs. i get what's called in-home supportive services that pays any
 caregiver of my choice 9.00 per hour for 8 hours a day for my care. for 240
 hours a month. for housing i get section 8 housing that pays most of my
 rent and allows me to rent from my folks due to the major renovations to my
 home. for transportation i do drive and have my own van but also use access
 services which is a service were a van takes you anywhere in so calif. for
 about 2.00 with a call a day in advance. like i said it's been pretty good
 here. but if they cut ihss or section 8 or both then not so great. no
 caregiver and no rent. maybe even medical cuts.

 so my questions are as follows, would i still get ss and ssi?
 for medical i'm sure i get medicare but does the state pay for things
 medicare doesn't?
 what in-home care program do you have, what's pay, and how many hours do
 you get?
 do you have a renters assistance program?
 and in phoenix do they have any transportation program?

 i'm looking into the future and trying to make plans before all goes to
 hell here.

 thanks for any info.
 donald





-- 
Lori
C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
Tucson, AZ


Re: [QUAD-L] here's the deal arizona quads...

2008-12-12 Thread Tod E. Santee
Hi again, Donald:

Q: so my questions are as follows, would i still get ss and ssi?
A:  That should stay as it is

Q: for medical i'm sure i get medicare but does the state pay for things 
medicare doesn't?
A:  The AHCCCS program I mentioned this morning does this... it varies a bit 
from state to state in trying to compare because while Medicaid is mostly the 
same evcerywhere, AHCCCS is a Federally funded block grant for a State-operated 
program to offer private HMO-like services. (A public-private partnership... I 
think MediCal is similar, right?)

Q: what in-home care program do you have, what's pay, and how many hours do you 
get?
A:  That's ALTCS -- the Long-term care program I mentioned.  It's based on 
financial need and individual ability.  You'd be assessed by the pros at the 
system based on Dr.-verified forms, an in-person intake, and maybe some other 
criteria to see how many hours you really *need*.  You can hire your own help 
if they take the ALTCS classes and agree to their pay structure.   Again, the 
state uses privately owned companies to do most of this so if you hire a 
friend, they'll need to be working for an approved company and agree to abide 
by that particular company's contract.

Q: do you have a renters assistance program?
A:  I was in a section 8 / HUD-funded apartment for a while.  They run the 
gammit from uhhgg! to really nice.  Rent is on a sliding scale.  I think you 
can also qualify for needs-based utility assistance.

Q: and in phoenix do they have any transportation program?
A:  I've used the public bus quite a bit with no problem.  An ADA issue... ANY 
place with a public bus system MUST have some paratransit equivalent.  And 
Phoenix does.  The fee is allowed to be up to 2X public bus/transport fare.  
However, I don't know about Phx's system but public paratransit CAN be limited 
to only those unable to use public bus systems.  Tucson is like that.  But I 
can still get a conditional ridership allowed... temperature/weater 
sensitive, illness, etc. when your personal vehicle is not working.  Just 
Google Phoenix and paratransit to find more on this. (find the City 
websites... not the blog for complainers!)


So again... best wishes  good luck!
Tod (Tucson)

 donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 this is donald again,
  
 i currently live in the los angeles area. i'm single and have a live-in 
 caregiver. i'm also unemployed and have been since my injury. i have lived 
 here for most of my 41 

 for transportation i do drive and have my own van but also use access 
 services which is a service were a van takes you anywhere in so calif. for 
 about 2.00 with a call a day in advance. like i said it's been pretty good 
 here. but if they cut ihss or section 8 or both then not so great. no 
 caregiver and no rent. maybe even medical cuts. 
  
 so my questions are as follows, would i still get ss and ssi?
 for medical i'm sure i get medicare but does the state pay for things 
 medicare doesn't?
 what in-home care program do you have, what's pay, and how many hours do you 
 get?
 do you have a renters assistance program?
 and in phoenix do they have any transportation program?
  
 i'm looking into the future and trying to make plans before all goes to hell 
 here.
  
 thanks for any info.
 donald 
  






Re: [QUAD-L] here's the deal arizona quads...

2008-12-12 Thread Eric W Rudd
i waz about 2 move...i  pay my pca 12/hr...no  help, i'm as disabled as they 
comewanting more


Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com



- Original Message - 
From: Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net

To: rollingl...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] here's the deal arizona quads...


Hi again, Donald:

Q: so my questions are as follows, would i still get ss and ssi?
A:  That should stay as it is

Q: for medical i'm sure i get medicare but does the state pay for things 
medicare doesn't?
A:  The AHCCCS program I mentioned this morning does this... it varies a bit 
from state to state in trying to compare because while Medicaid is mostly 
the same evcerywhere, AHCCCS is a Federally funded block grant for a 
State-operated program to offer private HMO-like services. (A public-private 
partnership... I think MediCal is similar, right?)


Q: what in-home care program do you have, what's pay, and how many hours do 
you get?
A:  That's ALTCS -- the Long-term care program I mentioned.  It's based on 
financial need and individual ability.  You'd be assessed by the pros at 
the system based on Dr.-verified forms, an in-person intake, and maybe some 
other criteria to see how many hours you really *need*.  You can hire your 
own help if they take the ALTCS classes and agree to their pay structure. 
Again, the state uses privately owned companies to do most of this so if you 
hire a friend, they'll need to be working for an approved company and agree 
to abide by that particular company's contract.


Q: do you have a renters assistance program?
A:  I was in a section 8 / HUD-funded apartment for a while.  They run the 
gammit from uhhgg! to really nice.  Rent is on a sliding scale.  I think you 
can also qualify for needs-based utility assistance.


Q: and in phoenix do they have any transportation program?
A:  I've used the public bus quite a bit with no problem.  An ADA issue... 
ANY place with a public bus system MUST have some paratransit equivalent. 
And Phoenix does.  The fee is allowed to be up to 2X public bus/transport 
fare.  However, I don't know about Phx's system but public paratransit CAN 
be limited to only those unable to use public bus systems.  Tucson is like 
that.  But I can still get a conditional ridership allowed... 
temperature/weater sensitive, illness, etc. when your personal vehicle is 
not working.  Just Google Phoenix and paratransit to find more on this. 
(find the City websites... not the blog for complainers!)



So again... best wishes  good luck!
Tod (Tucson)

 donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote:

this is donald again,

i currently live in the los angeles area. i'm single and have a live-in 
caregiver. i'm also unemployed and have been since my injury. i have lived 
here for most of my 41


for transportation i do drive and have my own van but also use access 
services which is a service were a van takes you anywhere in so calif. 
for about 2.00 with a call a day in advance. like i said it's been pretty 
good here. but if they cut ihss or section 8 or both then not so great. no 
caregiver and no rent. maybe even medical cuts.


so my questions are as follows, would i still get ss and ssi?
for medical i'm sure i get medicare but does the state pay for things 
medicare doesn't?
what in-home care program do you have, what's pay, and how many hours do 
you get?

do you have a renters assistance program?
and in phoenix do they have any transportation program?

i'm looking into the future and trying to make plans before all goes to 
hell here.


thanks for any info.
donald