Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-28 Thread jon jackson
Aha getting down there is not so bad, working is difficult, but getting out is 
almost impossible and I am past 60 and sometimes wonder why I still tinker 
until I see the faces of some folk driving boring old euro boxes and suddenly I 
am sure I will die a petrolhead.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Young 
  To: quantumowners 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump


  I do love working down in the foot well upside down, feet hanging over the 
roll bar too :) got a load of time to spend down there soon as I get closer to 
wiring up my megasquirt ..


  On 28 October 2014 17:07, Dave Gell  wrote:

Bingo?
 Found two additional relays (with integral fuse ?) never seen these type 
before, tucked up way out of sight above the heater vent piping. One with a 
very doggy fuse that had been getting hot for some time with the looks of it. 
replaced complete relay with same type and new fuse hey presto running again. 
Shame its raining now don't want to get my car wet. Boy is it tough lying 
upside down with yer head in the foot well?  Thanks to all for your interest, 
idea's and info, 

Dave

On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:34:09 UTC+1, Dave Gell wrote:
  Hi can anyone give me some guidance . Just tried to start my Extreme and 
the electric fuel pump sounded very slow and reluctant. I then started to get a 
slight burning smell. I am sure the pump has seized and bunt out. I have 
removed the o/s/r wheel and can only just see the pump on top of the tank. Is 
there an easy way of getting to this?


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-28 Thread Nigel Plant
Well done, swung by work today to get manual, but guess its not needed now. 
Pleased you solved it.
Nigel

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Young
I do love working down in the foot well upside down, feet hanging over the
roll bar too :) got a load of time to spend down there soon as I get closer
to wiring up my megasquirt ..

On 28 October 2014 17:07, Dave Gell  wrote:

> Bingo?
>  Found two additional relays (with integral fuse ?) never seen these type
> before, tucked up way out of sight above the heater vent piping. One with a
> very doggy fuse that had been getting hot for some time with the looks of
> it. replaced complete relay with same type and new fuse hey presto running
> again. Shame its raining now don't want to get my car wet. Boy is it tough
> lying upside down with yer head in the foot well?  Thanks to all for your
> interest, idea's and info,
>
> Dave
>
> On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:34:09 UTC+1, Dave Gell wrote:
>>
>> Hi can anyone give me some guidance . Just tried to start my Extreme and
>> the electric fuel pump sounded very slow and reluctant. I then started to
>> get a slight burning smell. I am sure the pump has seized and bunt out. I
>> have removed the o/s/r wheel and can only just see the pump on top of the
>> tank. Is there an easy way of getting to this?
>>
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[Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-28 Thread Dave Gell
Bingo?
 Found two additional relays (with integral fuse ?) never seen these type 
before, tucked up way out of sight above the heater vent piping. One with a 
very doggy fuse that had been getting hot for some time with the looks of 
it. replaced complete relay with same type and new fuse hey presto running 
again. Shame its raining now don't want to get my car wet. Boy is it tough 
lying upside down with yer head in the foot well?  Thanks to all for your 
interest, idea's and info, 

Dave

On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:34:09 UTC+1, Dave Gell wrote:
>
> Hi can anyone give me some guidance . Just tried to start my Extreme and 
> the electric fuel pump sounded very slow and reluctant. I then started to 
> get a slight burning smell. I am sure the pump has seized and bunt out. I 
> have removed the o/s/r wheel and can only just see the pump on top of the 
> tank. Is there an easy way of getting to this?
>

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-27 Thread Dave Gell
Thanks I did a google search and have found a diagram. Gonna check sometime 
tommoz, hope it hasnt fried the ecu? No i live on the borders NG16 Selston 
but make Derbys my second home. 
Dave

On Monday, 27 October 2014 18:08:47 UTC, Nigel Plant wrote:
>
> Bit of a cock up. Took manual to work, forgot to bring it home and am not 
> planning to be at work tomorrow. I may swing by, but if not will be 
> wednesday. Tbh if you google omex 500 wiring diagram, there are loads, the 
> main difference being the source of the main feed.
>
> You stil live in Derbys?
>
> Nigel
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-27 Thread Nigel Plant
Bit of a cock up. Took manual to work, forgot to bring it home and am not 
planning to be at work tomorrow. I may swing by, but if not will be wednesday. 
Tbh if you google omex 500 wiring diagram, there are loads, the main difference 
being the source of the main feed.

You stil live in Derbys?

Nigel

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-27 Thread Jim Hearne
Brown (Earth) and Black/Red (Supply) are Fords standard wire colours for the 
fuel pump on a donor Sierra.
Maybe somebody used the Ford fuel pump connector and some of the wiring for 
the fuel pump.


Jim


-Original Message- 
From: Dave Gell

Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:00 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

Yes I have the build manual but there is no ref to fuel pump relay. It does 
mention fuel pump wiring on the rear connection section but the colours are 
not the same? Man says white/purple and black earth. Wires to my pump are 
brown and black/red? There is no amendment page in my manual?


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-27 Thread Dave Gell
Yes mine running the Omex 500. My name is Gell the family connected with 
the area around the viagellia road and Carsington Village etc. Hopton Hall 
belonged to the Gell family Yawn Yawn? I could go on.If you could scan that 
diagram it would help thanks (viagel...@btinternet.com)
Dave

On Monday, 27 October 2014 08:24:02 UTC, Nigel Plant wrote:
>
> Haven't been able to check the car yet but have checked the Zetec build 
> manual and Omex wiri8ng diagram.
> Connector pin 3 (blue wire) of the Omex 500 is an aux used for a relay 
> powering the fuel pump, coil pack, injectors and lambda.  There is a wiring 
> diagram for this in the Zetc/ Omex supplement.  Can scan and send if you 
> wish.
>  
> On a separate note, I see your e mail address 'via gelia'  this was the 
> local name given to the road from Newhaven to Cromford, near where I grew 
> up in Buxton.  Is there a connection!
> Nigel
>
>>  
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-27 Thread Nigel Plant
Haven't been able to check the car yet but have checked the Zetec build 
manual and Omex wiri8ng diagram.
Connector pin 3 (blue wire) of the Omex 500 is an aux used for a relay 
powering the fuel pump, coil pack, injectors and lambda.  There is a wiring 
diagram for this in the Zetc/ Omex supplement.  Can scan and send if you 
wish.
 
On a separate note, I see your e mail address 'via gelia'  this was the 
local name given to the road from Newhaven to Cromford, near where I grew 
up in Buxton.  Is there a connection!
Nigel

>  
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-26 Thread Nigel Plant
Ok. Will check mine later, I was going ny memory. What engine management is
it? Something isnt sounding correct here.
Nigel
On 26 Oct 2014 21:10, "Dave Gell"  wrote:

> Yes I have the build manual but there is no ref to fuel pump relay. It
> does mention fuel pump wiring on the rear connection section but the
> colours are not the same? Man says white/purple and black earth. Wires to
> my pump are brown and black/red? There is no amendment page in my manual?
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-26 Thread Dave Gell
Yes I have the build manual but there is no ref to fuel pump relay. It does 
mention fuel pump wiring on the rear connection section but the colours are not 
the same? Man says white/purple and black earth. Wires to my pump are brown and 
black/red? There is no amendment page in my manual?

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-24 Thread nigelp...@gmail.com
The zetec with injection had an addendum to the manual, showing the fuel pump 
wiring.
Nigel

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- Reply message -
From: "Chris Young" 
To: "quantumowners" 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump
Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2014 10:24
have you got the xtreme manual ? it contains the factory supplied wiring 
diagram. (although I don't recall a relay as it is written for carb.)
On 23 October 2014 23:11, Nigel Plant  wrote:
There will be a relay near the fusebox which is usually located under the 
scuttle on passenger side, check that and the fuse. Good luck.

Nigel



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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-24 Thread Chris Young
have you got the xtreme manual ? it contains the factory supplied wiring
diagram. (although I don't recall a relay as it is written for carb.)

On 23 October 2014 23:11, Nigel Plant  wrote:

> There will be a relay near the fusebox which is usually located under the
> scuttle on passenger side, check that and the fuse. Good luck.
> Nigel
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[Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-23 Thread Nigel Plant
There will be a relay near the fusebox which is usually located under the 
scuttle on passenger side, check that and the fuse. Good luck.
Nigel

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[Quantum Owners] Re: Extreme fuel pump

2014-10-23 Thread Dave Gell
Mine an injection. The fuel pump in on the top of the tank inside what 
looks like a metal cage/ mounting? Today I cut into the wires that go up to 
the pump as i cant even reach these at the pump itself. No voltage at the 
supply. I connected direct to a spare battery and the pump spins like a 
good un. Engine started so not the pump now but power supply. I now need to 
trace back, poss a relay or wire fault?

On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:34:09 UTC+1, Dave Gell wrote:
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> Hi can anyone give me some guidance . Just tried to start my Extreme and 
> the electric fuel pump sounded very slow and reluctant. I then started to 
> get a slight burning smell. I am sure the pump has seized and bunt out. I 
> have removed the o/s/r wheel and can only just see the pump on top of the 
> tank. Is there an easy way of getting to this?
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