[qubes-users] Please make community repo for Arch like you did for 3.2

2018-04-02 Thread 'qubuntu' via qubes-users
There was a community version of Arch in Qubes 3.2 repos.

Some one please take the time to build the Arch distro and make it available in 
Qubes repos.

If something breaks, I can always reinstall the RPM or get a backup of the 
Template.

Also see this https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/pgj9IxrpA2o

I want to use distros with PPAs or AURs.

Though these are not as secure as the packages from Debian, these provide a lot 
of software that are not available in Debian.

Sometimes I find many internet based software is vulnerable or doesn't work 
with new features or simply doesn't work, cos the clients in Debian and Fedora 
are outdated.

This is solved by Arch and sometimes with PPAs.

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Re: [qubes-users] unexpected system restart

2018-04-02 Thread Michael Vermaes
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:19 AM, taii...@gmx.com  wrote:

> The same thing happens to me and I don't understand why nor are there
> any errors in the logs - other times I will be kicked to the login
> screen and when I log back in the window managing is broken.
>

Not sure about the hard shutdown case, but the X restart sounds like the
oom-killer issue [1] I've experienced a few times this year. I always
forget to try the workaround steps in the first comment, but apparently
it's possible to fix without losing work.

[1] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3079

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[qubes-users] Whats the deal with kernels?

2018-04-02 Thread sevas
Ive been looking at kernel compiling. Ive amounted certain information,
but not enough.

I see 3 git repos with kernels: qubes-linux-kernel, rtiangha and fepitre.

I know I can change versions with $ git checkout *version*

I also know that I can download the sources and build them and I would 
preferably
edit a .config file to edit my options and hardware.

What I need to know:
-how to use the gen-config file.
-whats the difference between the config-base, config-qubes and 
config-qubes-minimal? (well the minimal part is obvious)
-I can edit one of these config files to build with my kernel, correct?
-I have built a .config using the '$ make oldconfig' command and it was a
nightmare. The most effective way to configure a .config is to use '$ make 
menuconfig' correct? A good balance between my time and control?
-Is there a convenient way to merge an existing .config with the qubes .config?

Any other tips?
Is there a qubes doc on this? 

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[qubes-users] Whats the deal with kernels?

2018-04-02 Thread sevas
Ive been looking at kernel compiling. Ive amounted certain information, 
but not enough. 

I see 3 git repos with kernels: qubes-linux-kernel, rtiangha and fepitre.

I know I can change versions with $ git checkout *version*

I also know that I can download the sources and build them and I would 
preferably 
edit a .config file to edit my options and hardware. 

What I need to know:
-how to use the gen-config file. 
-whats the difference between the config-base, config-qubes and 
config-qubes-minimal? (well the minimal part is obvious)
-I can edit one of these config files to build with my kernel, correct? 
-I have built a .config using the '$ make oldconfig' command and it was a 
nightmare. The most effective way to configure a .config is to use '$ make 
menuconfig' correct? A good balance between my time and control?

Any other tips? 
Is there a qubes doc on this? 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: unexpected system restart

2018-04-02 Thread qubenix
cooloutac:
> On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 12:31:09 PM UTC-4, qubenix wrote:
>> Hello all. I'm currently still on R3.2.
>>
>> I had a situation where I was working with a normal (for me) amount of
>> VMs running. Nothing even close to extreme as far as cpu/mem/io/temp.
>> During startup of an AppVM that I use all the time, my system just did a
>> hard shutdown ("no input" on screen, connected with hdmi) and then right
>> into a restart.
>>
>> How can I debug this in a useful way? Does someone have an idea what
>> might cause it?
>>
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>> GPG: B536812904D455B491DCDCDD04BE1E61A3C2E500
> 
> weird.  you using sleep mode at all?  Checked the obvious issues like temps,  
> hdd errors,  memory stability?
> 

No sleep, checked all obvious issues.

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Re: [qubes-users] Options for securing /boot

2018-04-02 Thread cooloutac
On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, tai...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 09/08/2017 07:12 AM, Leo Gaspard wrote:
> 
> > Just a datapoint: secure boot is *not* microsoft-controlled (unless you
> > assume the manufacturer put in some kind of backdoor, in which case
> > you're screwed anyway).
> Yes it is microsoft controlled, they're the ones who made the standard
> and conveniently left out the owner controlled mandate in sb 2.0 once
> the attention died down.
> It will eventually be used to prevent people from running linux all
> together at least your own linux not one that is approved by red hat.

Where are these boards.  I've never seen one that doesnt' let you shut it off 
or use your own keys?

Time will tell,  but right now as Richard Stallman thinks "its failed its 
intended purpose".  and Why Red Hat? 

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[qubes-users] Re: unexpected system restart

2018-04-02 Thread cooloutac
On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 12:31:09 PM UTC-4, qubenix wrote:
> Hello all. I'm currently still on R3.2.
> 
> I had a situation where I was working with a normal (for me) amount of
> VMs running. Nothing even close to extreme as far as cpu/mem/io/temp.
> During startup of an AppVM that I use all the time, my system just did a
> hard shutdown ("no input" on screen, connected with hdmi) and then right
> into a restart.
> 
> How can I debug this in a useful way? Does someone have an idea what
> might cause it?
> 
> -- 
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> GPG: B536812904D455B491DCDCDD04BE1E61A3C2E500

weird.  you using sleep mode at all?  Checked the obvious issues like temps,  
hdd errors,  memory stability?

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Re: [qubes-users] [Qubes 4.0] Debian 9 unusable

2018-04-02 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Mon, April 2, 2018 3:34 pm, FerFrc via qubes-users wrote:
> Le lundi 2 avril 2018 10:38:04 UTC+2, awokd a écrit :
>
>> On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:45 pm, schwoerera...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all.
>>> I was on Qubes 3.2 and I've switched of Qubes 4.0 but I have some
>>> problems :
>>> In fact, I can't use and update/upgrade Debian 9.

>
> Hello, I'm using Debian 9 template that came with Qubes 4.0.

Need more details. Is your network working? What happens when you try to
upgrade, etc.

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[qubes-users] HCL - Hewlett Packard EliteBook 8560p

2018-04-02 Thread Brendon Green
I have been running Qubes R3.2 on this laptop for about a year now; with a
mixture of Fedora, Debian, and Windows VMs.  At first, all features and
hardware functionality worked very well; including S3 sleep,
docking/undocking, and driving up to 4 displays from the Radeon
6400M-series GPU.  However; ever since the originally-shipped dom0 kernel
(4.6, IIRC) was discontinued, I have not been able to use display
compositing without the computer crashing upon resuming from sleep (I
assume this is a quirk of using a 4.9 kernel on the long-discontinued
Fedora 23 dom0).

Intel vPro I/O virtualisation is enabled in BIOS and appears to be working
well.  USB 3.0 and 2.0 both work within VMs, and the three controller
devices can be assigned independently, as long as care is taken to allow
permissive reset (this took me a while to figure out when first
experimenting with isolating USB using VMs, and also when attempting to
pass-through a USB controller to Windows).

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread js...@riseup.net
Black Beard:
> Hello guys,
> 
> okay. 1000 thx for your nice and helpful feedbacks. 👍🙂
> 
> I want use win10, too. Lets say , i want install Quebes full on my laptop, 
> but needs my Win10, too. How can i realized this project without a Usb Stick?
> 
> regards and thx in advance

Hi Black Beard,

Like others have said dual booting qubes with windows reduces security,
so it's better to avoid it if possible. You can install windows in a VM
in qubes to run windows apps in, and that's good enough for most
purposes. See documentation here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/hvm/

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/

If you really do need dual boot though there's documentation here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/

-Jackie

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread 799
Hello Black Beard,

Black Beard  schrieb am Mo., 2. Apr. 2018,
22:14:

I want use win10, too. Lets say , i want install Quebes full on my laptop,
> but needs my Win10, too. How can i realized this project without a Usb
> Stick?


The question is why you need to run Windows and why it has to be windows 10?
Usually you don't _want_ to run Windows but to complete special tasks and
to do so, you might _need_ to run windows.

The answer in my case to my two questions above:

Why windows?
1) I need to run our ERP Client application
2) I need to run Remote Desktop Manager from Devolutions to access our
central Credential and Session repository

Why windows 10?
Because windows 10 is the only OS which is supported by internal IT.

The solution in my case was to install a windows 7 VM with a VPN Client to
run ERP and Remote Desktop Manager.
The downside is that the OS has to be managed by me not our internal IT dep.

Additional I have setup VMwarw Horizon View on a Fedora 26 based AppVM to
connect to my "corporate Windows 10 virtual Desktop".

I was running a dual boot setup before, but have migrated to a Qubes only
setup.
Using a Dualboot setup has the disadvantages that you don't benefit from
all the benefits Qubes offers while you work with windows and the longer
you work with windows, the less likely it is to "force" yourself  to
migrate to Qubes.
The main benefit I had forcing myself to use Qubes as only OS was to look
and find a solution to get a workings solution to connect to our corporate
Microsoft Exchange via Linux.

You can try to run Windows 10 as a virtualized stand alone VM in Qubes.
Dualboot is not something I would recommend under normal circumstances.

Another idea could be to run Windows from a USB stick. Using a 128GB USB3
Modell this works fair enough

[799]

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread Black Beard
Hello guys,

okay. 1000 thx for your nice and helpful feedbacks. 👍🙂

I want use win10, too. Lets say , i want install Quebes full on my laptop, but 
needs my Win10, too. How can i realized this project without a Usb Stick?

regards and thx in advance

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Mon, April 2, 2018 4:46 pm, Black Beard wrote:
> Hey,
>
>
> thx for your comment.
>
> It would be cool if i can use windows 10 next to Quebes. 🙂
>
>
> Is it possible to create a own partition next to Win10?

It is possible to dual-boot Qubes and Win10, but it can be difficult to
get set up. You might want to go ahead and install it to your USB drive to
try it out first. That will let you test and see if you can get Wine
running. Then you can decide if you want to try to dual boot (but it
reduces Qubes' security if you do that.)

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Re: [qubes-users] Options for securing /boot

2018-04-02 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 09/08/2017 07:12 AM, Leo Gaspard wrote:

> Just a datapoint: secure boot is *not* microsoft-controlled (unless you
> assume the manufacturer put in some kind of backdoor, in which case
> you're screwed anyway).
Yes it is microsoft controlled, they're the ones who made the standard
and conveniently left out the owner controlled mandate in sb 2.0 once
the attention died down.
It will eventually be used to prevent people from running linux all
together at least your own linux not one that is approved by red hat.

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Re: [qubes-users] unexpected system restart

2018-04-02 Thread taii...@gmx.com
The same thing happens to me and I don't understand why nor are there
any errors in the logs - other times I will be kicked to the login
screen and when I log back in the window managing is broken.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes deamin no respnse error

2018-04-02 Thread Roy Bernat
logs 

Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: unhandled exception while calling 
src=b'dom0' meth=b'admin.vm.volume.Info' dest=b'Exodus' arg=b'private' 
len(untrusted_payload)=0
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubes/api/__init__.py", line 262, in respond
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: untrusted_payload=untrusted_payload)
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.5/asyncio/futures.py", line 381, in __iter__
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: yield self  # This tells Task to wait 
for completion.
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.5/asyncio/tasks.py", line 310, in _wakeup
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: future.result()
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.5/asyncio/futures.py", line 294, in result
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: raise self._exception
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.5/asyncio/tasks.py", line 240, in _step
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: result = coro.send(None)
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.5/asyncio/coroutines.py", line 210, in coro
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: res = func(*args, **kw)
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubes/api/admin.py", line 348, in 
vm_volume_info
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: for key in volume_properties)
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubes/api/admin.py", line 348, in 
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: for key in volume_properties)
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubes/api/admin.py", line 343, in _serialize
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: value = value()
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubes/storage/__init__.py", line 238, in 
is_outdated
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: raise 
self._not_implemented("is_outdated")
Apr 02 22:03:18 dom0 qubesd[1372]: NotImplementedError: Volume FileVolume has 
is_outdated() not implemented

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Q4-rc5] Blank screen on boot after installation on Lenovo

2018-04-02 Thread qubes-users-list
On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 2:02:15 PM UTC-4, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:25:18AM -, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> > On Wed, March 28, 2018 2:09 am, berto0001 wrote:
> > >> It's in a bit of an indeterminate state right now:
> > >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2971. Did regenerating
> > >> initramfs with host only fix it for you, or did you just leave the
> > >> keyboard setting on US on the reinstall?
> > >
> > > Actually, I just pressed the keys as on an imaginary US keyboard after
> > > realizing one key was in a different position. That's a quite common
> > > method for non-US users -- you just need to be aware that you are dealing
> > > with a moved key in the first place. And there is no feedback when typing
> > > a password as first task on a new OS, obviously.
> > 
> > Sounds like that linked issue's not resolved. If you have a Github
> > account, mind commenting on it with your experience and pinging
> > @andrewdavidwong? I can do it later too, if you don't. If you get a chance
> > to regenerate with -H, I'm curious if that fixes it too. Shouldn't (TM)
> > hurt anything.
> 
> Have you tried final 4.0 image? There were some fixes that didn't
> managed to get included in rc5.

The issue appears to still present in the final 4.0 release based on the 
results of my reinstall this weekend.

(I don't know if this is the source of the problem, but I watched the installer 
switch the the keyboard layout listed in the upper right hand corner from my 
chosen preference back to 'us' while installing packages.  I think maybe 
somewhere between package number 700 and 800.  By the end of the install the 
keyboard listed in the upper right hand corner was switched back to what I had 
previously selected.  Post install rpm script doing this or something?!?)

> 
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[qubes-users] 4.0 Lenovo Yoga 14 Kernel Problems

2018-04-02 Thread pencilfight



> Apologies in advance if this has been covered. 
> SHORT STORY:  3.2 installed and ran right out of the box.  4.0 installs just 
> as smoothly, however Dom0 is slow as can be. “I receive Kernel Module not 
> loading errors” upon booting and shutting down. Both take 3-5 minutes to 
> complete. Booting up VMs takes anywhere between 3-5 minutes as well. 
> Any help would be appreciated! Thanks again everyone!
> -Pen

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[qubes-users] Qubes deamin no respnse error

2018-04-02 Thread Roy Bernat
Hi all 

suddenly got error while open qubes manager 

got empty response from qubesd. 

at line 465 



Any one ? 


R

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread Black Beard
Hey,

thx for your comment. 

It would be cool if i can use windows 10 next to Quebes. 🙂

Is it possible to create a own partition next to Win10?

regards ✌ 

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[qubes-users] unexpected system restart

2018-04-02 Thread qubenix
Hello all. I'm currently still on R3.2.

I had a situation where I was working with a normal (for me) amount of
VMs running. Nothing even close to extreme as far as cpu/mem/io/temp.
During startup of an AppVM that I use all the time, my system just did a
hard shutdown ("no input" on screen, connected with hdmi) and then right
into a restart.

How can I debug this in a useful way? Does someone have an idea what
might cause it?

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Re: [qubes-users] [Qubes 4.0] Debian 9 unusable

2018-04-02 Thread FerFrc via qubes-users
Le lundi 2 avril 2018 10:38:04 UTC+2, awokd a écrit :
> On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:45 pm, schwoerera...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hello all.
> > I was on Qubes 3.2 and I've switched of Qubes 4.0 but I have some problems
> > :
> > In fact, I can't use and update/upgrade Debian 9.
> 
> Are you using the debian-9 template that came with Qubes 4.0, or one you
> restored from backup? I had trouble with AppVMs I restored until I
> switched them to the included template.
> 
> > And also, I would like to know how to switch the language of Qubes 4.0 ?
> > I already made this on Qubes 3.2 before.
> 
> I think there might be a translation team working on this, but I'm not sure.
> 
> > To finish, does it possible to sort
> > the VM on the Qubes VM Manager ? Like TemplateVM with TemplateVM, and
> > NetVM with NetVM, etc.
> 
> Yes, click on the Template (or other) column heading and it will sort.


Hello, I'm using Debian 9 template that came with Qubes 4.0.

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[qubes-users] Re: User issues with Qubes 4.0

2018-04-02 Thread sdflkjdslkfjew
After the first installation of Qubes, I immediately had problems with the 
sound. In PHV domains it does not work, only in dom0 or in HVM machines. Rather 
a big problem is the lack of normal documentation like Gentoo or FreeBSD.

Also with a fairly small set of packages and applications for work. I do not 
know if TOR needs people at all, it's slow and not necessary. also the systemd 
and fedora cause a lot of pain.

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[qubes-users] User issues with Qubes 4.0

2018-04-02 Thread Philippe Doublet

Dear community,

I have been a happy user of Qubes 3.2 for a year or so now, was eagerly 
waiting for R4.0 and now switched to it. And for the moment it seems 
like it's a disaster... I am not sure if this is the right place to post 
my several issues but here there are :


- slow execution of everything. Startup is slower, most of the actions 
(starting a VM, working in several spaces). I found out (in dmesg of 
dom0) I had a problem with a pci express component reporting regularly 
with AER (advanced error reporting - never seen in R3.2), so after a 
couple of searches, I turned it off by adding "pcie_aspm = off" in grub. 
It helps with speed but the system is still slower than before and I 
have no clue why at the moment. (Watching an online video becomes a real 
pain...)


- no volume control is permitted on whonix-ws-based VMs (including DVMs) 
using dom0's audio mixer. Is this expected ? I read nothing about it...


- import of win7 previously saved and perfectly working hvm (on R3.2) 
causes windows not to work : booting seems ok (from time to time...) but 
once on the windows desktop, it crashes (the window disappears without 
leaving any message, which I had when painfully installing win7 
previously but thought it was gone).


- the Qubes Manager is slow and has problems with refreshing (I've read 
it appears also for some other users). I really enjoyed working with it 
because it is really making my life easier but now I avoid all possible 
actions with it...


I am not sure my configuration is problematic (it seems intel core 
i5-6200 and 16 GB memory have all the expected hardware features). I can 
give more details if needed. I think the major problem is the speed, 
then other things may be lived with. Maybe going to PVH was too much ?


So this is my user's experience so far and I'm thinking about switching 
back to 3.2 since these problems don't seem documented. But if anyone 
can help and if this can help others, let's try to improve things 
(hopefully I'm the only one with such experience which is sad for me but 
doesn't harm Qubes reputation ;) ).


Regards,

Philippe


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Re: [qubes-users] Bug (R4.0): VM fail to start after hard power off

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Laprise

On 04/02/2018 05:42 AM, Dimitri wrote:

Hi,
I realized that some VMs refuse to start after a hard power-off (hold power 
button for 10s). When running 'qvm-start test' I get 'vm-test-private missing'. 
But this thin volume is actually there. Also the volume 'vm-test-private-snap' 
is still present. Does the snapshot not get written back to the private image?

This case needs to be handled somehow.

As long as this is not fixed: How can I manually fix it?

Thanks for help!



Try this in dom0:

sudo pvscan --cache --activate ay
sudo systemctl restart qubesd
qvm-start test

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 won't boot on Thinkpad T430

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Laprise

On 04/02/2018 09:22 AM, i.like.ht...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 10:30:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 04/01/2018 05:19 PM, Ha L wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm having trouble booting Qubes 4 on Thinkpad T430. I managed to
install Qubes 4 by turning off VT-d in the BIOS. If VT-d is turned on in
the BIOS then Qubes simply does not boot.

I have tried to add 'iommu=no-igfx' option, I have removed it
completely, I have also tried 'iommu=on' and 'iommu=force'. Nothing
seems to work.

Prior to Qubes 4, I was able to boot Qubes.

Any help is appreciated, thank you all.


Does your T430 have Nvidia graphics? If so, you could try turning it off
in the BIOS.

Also, you should try updating your BIOS if you haven't recently.


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Thanks for the reply Chris.

I don't have dedicated graphics and I have also updated the BIOS to the latest 
version. It's still not working.



You might check out this working HCL report for the T430 (subject has a 
typo):


https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8eaa28e4-78b2-4c0a-a5d4-3071b4f6d6b2%40googlegroups.com

Other variables here might be the specific CPU, chipset, model# and 
options, dock, etc.


Also check the system self-test, and see if resetting BIOS settings to 
defaults helps.


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 won't boot on Thinkpad T430

2018-04-02 Thread i . like . html5
On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 10:30:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 04/01/2018 05:19 PM, Ha L wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I'm having trouble booting Qubes 4 on Thinkpad T430. I managed to 
> > install Qubes 4 by turning off VT-d in the BIOS. If VT-d is turned on in 
> > the BIOS then Qubes simply does not boot.
> > 
> > I have tried to add 'iommu=no-igfx' option, I have removed it 
> > completely, I have also tried 'iommu=on' and 'iommu=force'. Nothing 
> > seems to work.
> > 
> > Prior to Qubes 4, I was able to boot Qubes.
> > 
> > Any help is appreciated, thank you all.
> 
> Does your T430 have Nvidia graphics? If so, you could try turning it off 
> in the BIOS.
> 
> Also, you should try updating your BIOS if you haven't recently.
> 
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Thanks for the reply Chris.

I don't have dedicated graphics and I have also updated the BIOS to the latest 
version. It's still not working.

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread 'Neelix' via qubes-users
Just delete your windows partition

👍🙂


On 04/02/2018 03:02 PM, Black Beard wrote:
> Hey awokd,
>
> thx for your helpful feedback. 👍
>
> My OS is actually Windows 10. When i understand all correct, its best to 
> create a new partition next to windows 10? 
>
> For me its better to use Quebes permanent. The USB Stick, its no good idea 
> then. 
>
> 1000 thanks for help.👍🙂
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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread Black Beard
Hey awokd,

thx for your helpful feedback. 👍

My OS is actually Windows 10. When i understand all correct, its best to create 
a new partition next to windows 10? 

For me its better to use Quebes permanent. The USB Stick, its no good idea 
then. 

1000 thanks for help.👍🙂

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[qubes-users] Dependency error building Qubes

2018-04-02 Thread qubes-usermail
The recent fix for gcc.4.1-1.qubes2  didnt fix the issue:

Error: No Package found for gcc >= 6.4.1-1.qubes1
/home/user/QubesOS/qubes-builder/qubes-src/builder-centos/Makefile.centos:107:
recipe for target 'dist-build-dep' failed
make[2]: *** [dist-build-dep] Error 1
Makefile.generic:166: recipe for target 'packages' failed
make[1]: *** [packages] Error 1
Makefile:212: recipe for target 'vmm-xen-vm' failed
make: *** [vmm-xen-vm] Error 1

I have installed the fixed cpp, gcc and libgomp rpm manually but the error
stays unchanged

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[qubes-users] Bug (R4.0): VM fail to start after hard power off

2018-04-02 Thread Dimitri
Hi,
I realized that some VMs refuse to start after a hard power-off (hold power 
button for 10s). When running 'qvm-start test' I get 'vm-test-private missing'. 
But this thin volume is actually there. Also the volume 'vm-test-private-snap' 
is still present. Does the snapshot not get written back to the private image?

This case needs to be handled somehow.

As long as this is not fixed: How can I manually fix it?

Thanks for help!

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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Mon, April 2, 2018 9:01 am, Black Beard wrote:
> Hello community,
>
>
> at the moment I am increasingly concerned with the topic of anonymity on
> the Internet. Through several pages I became aware of the Linux system
> Quebes.
>
>
> Since I do not want to be among the most transparent people, I have to
> install Quebes in the next few days. I hope you can help me. 🙂

Welcome!

> According to my searches you should not install Quebes in a virtual
> machine. The Quebes operating system requires good hardware.

Correct.

> - Does it make sense to install the OS on a 64 GB USB stick?

This is OK for trying it out, but Qubes really works best as a permanent
installation on a large, fast fixed disk.

> If so, can I
> install software like Linux Wine?

You can install most Linux apps without any problems, but Wine might be
tricky/not possible since you won't have video acceleration inside an
AppVM. Don't know if that's a requirement; have not tried it myself.

> - Can I go to Quebes paralel Whonix
> to install?

Qubes comes with Whonix already built in! So you don't have to do anything
special to get it, just leave the box checked for it when you install
Qubes.


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[qubes-users] Quebes and whonix

2018-04-02 Thread Black Beard
 Hello community,

at the moment I am increasingly concerned with the topic of anonymity on the 
Internet. Through several pages I became aware of the Linux system Quebes.

Since I do not want to be among the most transparent people, I have to install 
Quebes in the next few days. I hope you can help me. 🙂

According to my searches you should not install Quebes in a virtual machine. 
The Quebes operating system requires good hardware.

- Does it make sense to install the OS on a 64 GB USB stick? If so, can I 
install software like Linux Wine?

- Can I go to Quebes paralel Whonix
to install?


About an feedback, i would be very happy.

regards and thanks in advance

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Re: [qubes-users] [Qubes 4.0] Debian 9 unusable

2018-04-02 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:45 pm, schwoerera...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello all.
> I was on Qubes 3.2 and I've switched of Qubes 4.0 but I have some problems
> :
> In fact, I can't use and update/upgrade Debian 9.

Are you using the debian-9 template that came with Qubes 4.0, or one you
restored from backup? I had trouble with AppVMs I restored until I
switched them to the included template.

> And also, I would like to know how to switch the language of Qubes 4.0 ?
> I already made this on Qubes 3.2 before.

I think there might be a translation team working on this, but I'm not sure.

> To finish, does it possible to sort
> the VM on the Qubes VM Manager ? Like TemplateVM with TemplateVM, and
> NetVM with NetVM, etc.

Yes, click on the Template (or other) column heading and it will sort.

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[qubes-users] network issues on R4.0

2018-04-02 Thread yonjah
I have multiple issue regarding network with R4.0

The main issue is that net-vm crashes after a long sleep.
It doesn't happen 100% of the time but many times coming back from sleep it 
will be completely unresponsive and will have to be killed.

Other times it will be responsive but will not be able to access the wifi card 
unless rebooted.

On top of all that if I change the network of a running disp vm to none and 
than back to sys-firewall it will not be able to access the network. so if I 
have a running disposable VMs when net-vm needs a restart they will not be able 
to access the network after the restart 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-04-02 Thread 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users
That screen isn't the first thing that comes up. I haven't even got to there 
yet. There's a loading process before, and that's when it eventually freezes 
with the error message.

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