[qubes-users] Newb Help with Installation

2018-12-23 Thread 'will.w77' via qubes-users
Hello, So I'm attempting to install qubes to a usb stick. I've copied the iso 
onto the usb by using the dd command specified in the user documentation in 
ubuntu virtualbox (host os windows 10). I'm wondering if the fact I used a 
virtual machine to copy the iso versus a native linux os makes any difference? 
I attempted to boot into the bios on my lenova t430 and nothing happens when I 
go to boot. The boot menu comes up I select the usb and hit enter and the 
screen simply refreshes with the boot menu again. Again I've used linux before 
and can run basic command line but am a novice compared to most in this group 
I'm sure. Any ideas? Thanks

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Re: [qubes-users] error running 'setup' for Qubes Builder

2018-12-23 Thread seshu
On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 7:13:36 PM UTC-7, awokd wrote:
> seshu:
> > I'm trying to build an Ubuntu templateVM using Qubes Builder. I'm running 
> > 4.0.1rc2
> > 
> > When, I ran the 'setup' command I got the following error message:
> > 
> > [user@qubes-builder qubes-builder]$ sudo bash setup
> > setup: line 16: from: command not found
> > setup: line 34: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> > setup: line 34: `from subprocess import (Popen, STDOUT)'
> > 
> > And the interactive screen never came up. I followed the instructions in 
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/   and at   
> > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder/blob/master/README.md
> > 
> > I installed the packages as the instructions said. Then I ran the 'setup' 
> > command.
> > 
> > Not sure what I am doing wrong. Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> You want to run most/all of those build commands, including setup, as a 
> regular user. Not SU. Try:
> ./setup

Thanks, that did the trick!

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How risky is GPU pass-through?

2018-12-23 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

Zrubi:

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On 12/23/18 9:34 PM, Demi M. Obenour wrote:

Someone I know is interested in using QubesOS.  However, they are
also a gamer: if they could not have a Windows VM with access to a
dedicated graphics card for use by games, then QubesOS is not an
option for them.


Short answer:
Qubes OS is not an option for them.


The risk part would come only after this feature exists in practice ;)
Search back for the details.


What Zrubi said, really. Not a practical solution at this point. If at 
some point it works better, it seems to me too if the secondary GPU can 
be blocked from ever seeing dom0 and vice versa, it could be passed 
through without too large an attack surface increase. Assuming here 
Qubes/Xen/IOMMU can restrict overly large BARs, but that's any PCIe device.



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Re: [qubes-users] error running 'setup' for Qubes Builder

2018-12-23 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

seshu:

I'm trying to build an Ubuntu templateVM using Qubes Builder. I'm running 
4.0.1rc2

When, I ran the 'setup' command I got the following error message:

[user@qubes-builder qubes-builder]$ sudo bash setup
setup: line 16: from: command not found
setup: line 34: syntax error near unexpected token `('
setup: line 34: `from subprocess import (Popen, STDOUT)'

And the interactive screen never came up. I followed the instructions in 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/   and at   
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder/blob/master/README.md

I installed the packages as the instructions said. Then I ran the 'setup' 
command.

Not sure what I am doing wrong. Any ideas?

Thanks!

You want to run most/all of those build commands, including setup, as a 
regular user. Not SU. Try:

./setup

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Re: [qubes-users] Modifying a shortcut in the xfce menu?

2018-12-23 Thread Stumpy

On 12/23/18 7:44 PM, preill...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know how to edit the StartApp file, but think you could use this:

qvm-run -q -a AppvmName 'firefox -P --no-remote'



On 12/23/18 6:44 PM, Stumpy wrote:

I am trying to figure how how to modify the firefox link/shortcut for
one of my appvms in the xfce menu. I just want to add "-P --no-remote
but all teh varients I have tried dont seem to work.

I try to edit from the menu and in the "command" feild it has:

qvm-run -q --service -- AppvmName qubes.StartApp+firefox

I thought it would point to some .desktop file but that does not seem
to be the case. I tried just adding -P --no-remote to the end but that
didnt work either.

Is there a page in the docs or github that covers this?






Hey that worked! Thanks preilly40!

While I will definitely go with that for the time being, if there is 
anyone that can say if that is totally ok or if its better to (find 
then) edit the StartApp file... as preilly40's method seems much easier.


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Re: [qubes-users] Modifying a shortcut in the xfce menu?

2018-12-23 Thread preilly40
I don't know how to edit the StartApp file, but think you could use this:

qvm-run -q -a AppvmName 'firefox -P --no-remote'



On 12/23/18 6:44 PM, Stumpy wrote:
> I am trying to figure how how to modify the firefox link/shortcut for
> one of my appvms in the xfce menu. I just want to add "-P --no-remote
> but all teh varients I have tried dont seem to work.
>
> I try to edit from the menu and in the "command" feild it has:
>
> qvm-run -q --service -- AppvmName qubes.StartApp+firefox
>
> I thought it would point to some .desktop file but that does not seem
> to be the case. I tried just adding -P --no-remote to the end but that
> didnt work either.
>
> Is there a page in the docs or github that covers this?
>

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[qubes-users] Re: How risky is GPU pass-through?

2018-12-23 Thread Zrubi
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On 12/23/18 9:34 PM, Demi M. Obenour wrote:
> Someone I know is interested in using QubesOS.  However, they are
> also a gamer: if they could not have a Windows VM with access to a
> dedicated graphics card for use by games, then QubesOS is not an
> option for them.

Short answer:
Qubes OS is not an option for them.


The risk part would come only after this feature exists in practice ;)
Search back for the details.

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Re: [qubes-users] HCL - Lenovo T480

2018-12-23 Thread Laszlo Zrubecz
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On 12/24/18 12:47 AM, Zrubi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just installed the 4.0.1-rc

Now the correct .yml attached, ignore the previous one.


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[qubes-users] HCL - Lenovo T480

2018-12-23 Thread Zrubi
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Hi,

Just installed the 4.0.1-rc

hit by the UEFI issues described here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/

Use the workarounds, or Disable Secure Boot.
Moreover: probably more better to go with the Legacy mode only - to
skip the troubles.


Affected by the suspend bugs:
#3689
#3705

Sou you need to enable Thunderbolt BIOS Assist and/or disable the
whole Thunderbolt support in general.

- - TPM 2.0 not recognized,
- - Fingerprint reader is a Windows only junk -> Disable it.


And now I can feel the hi-DPI pain, as it has a FHD panel in 14" size.
So everything is tiny now.


DPI scaling helps in dom0, but every AppVM should need to use that
settings...


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[qubes-users] Modifying a shortcut in the xfce menu?

2018-12-23 Thread Stumpy
I am trying to figure how how to modify the firefox link/shortcut for 
one of my appvms in the xfce menu. I just want to add "-P --no-remote 
but all teh varients I have tried dont seem to work.


I try to edit from the menu and in the "command" feild it has:

qvm-run -q --service -- AppvmName qubes.StartApp+firefox

I thought it would point to some .desktop file but that does not seem to 
be the case. I tried just adding -P --no-remote to the end but that 
didnt work either.


Is there a page in the docs or github that covers this?

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[qubes-users] error running 'setup' for Qubes Builder

2018-12-23 Thread seshu
I'm trying to build an Ubuntu templateVM using Qubes Builder. I'm running 
4.0.1rc2

When, I ran the 'setup' command I got the following error message:

[user@qubes-builder qubes-builder]$ sudo bash setup
setup: line 16: from: command not found
setup: line 34: syntax error near unexpected token `('
setup: line 34: `from subprocess import (Popen, STDOUT)'

And the interactive screen never came up. I followed the instructions in 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/   and at   
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder/blob/master/README.md

I installed the packages as the instructions said. Then I ran the 'setup' 
command.

Not sure what I am doing wrong. Any ideas?

Thanks!

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[qubes-users] How risky is GPU pass-through?

2018-12-23 Thread Demi M. Obenour
Someone I know is interested in using QubesOS.  However, they are also a
gamer: if they could not have a Windows VM with access to a dedicated
graphics card for use by games, then QubesOS is not an option for them.

How risky is GPU pass-through?  My understanding is that on most
laptops, the primary (internal) display is connected to the integrated
GPU.  Therefore, it appears to me that the risks are no more than
pass-through of the USB, Ethernet, or wireless controllers, all of which
QubesOS does by default.


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Re: [qubes-users] Failed to start load kernal module

2018-12-23 Thread unman
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:18:21PM -0800, seshu wrote:
> On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 10:22:17 PM UTC-7, awokd wrote:
> > sabirpage.offic...@gmail.com:
> > > Hi, I am trying to install qubes 4.0 and download fresh iso, followed the 
> > > instructions and made my usb bootable with rufus and installed it on my 
> > > hp follio 9470m, but getting error everytime I installed it on real 
> > > hardware,
> > > Please help me
> > > Screenshot below
> > > 
> > > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10298367/27842477-126786b6-6113-11e7-9ba1-f2e02621cae4.jpg
> > > 
> > > My laptop is not accessible I am formatting it, changing bios setting but 
> > > no luck, request anyone to help, any help is appreciated.
> > > 
> > If you're referred to that "failed" message, it's a false alarm. Mine 
> > does it too; ignore it.
> 
> I get that message also. I was wondering if that is a bug? Should it be 
> reported in the qubes-issues system?
> 

It's a long standing false report, and there's already an open issue for 
it.(#2638)
In my opinion it's not a bug in Qubes.
If you check the system status (as instructed) you will probably find
that the modules load service is active and exited SUCCESS.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] bottom line with win7 VMs in qubes v4?

2018-12-23 Thread unman
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 05:19:52AM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> Stumpy:
> > on IRC a few people mentioned that win vms didnt work in q4 but I see
> > posts with people talking about windows vm issues but these issues dont
> > seem to preclude qubes ability to run a win vm?
> > 
> > I just need a simple win7 VM to run ms office, photoshop, and a few
> > other non sound/network/special things, but would need to be able to
> > copy files/text between other app vms and the winvm. Would this take
> > alot of extra work or should it be about as "straight forward"
> > 
> They work, check the documentation about it. Haven't tested qvm-copy on
> them, though.

I dont use Windows myself but have set up numerous users with Win7 HVMs,
sometimes as templates.
The Win7 qubes work fine. I know people who do all their "office" work
in those qubes,with various flavours of Windows. Applications used
include Office, Matlab and some heavy data analysis tools.
Network connectivity is fine.
Qubes Windows Tools are somewhat variable - I dont see any pattern in
the problems. I suggest cloning your Win7, making sure it is up to date
and then trying the Windows tools. If it goes pear shaped you have the
original qube to fall back on.
As to moving data between qubes, there are different approaches.
If QWT work then you use qvm-copy/move as usual.
Without them, start Winqube with  USB  attached, do your work , transfer
files to USB drive, shutdown and attach USB to another qube. Like a very
small sneakernet.
Or create dedicated tx qube: enable networking between the two and use a
shared folder on that qube to shuttle files between windows and other
qubes. If you set this up right, you can have script starting the tx
qube before Winqube,enabling the networking, automounting drive in
Winqube. Then work is done in  Windows, saved to drive, and user clicks
in another window and qvm-copy/move out of the Windows grouping.
Absolutely straightforward and easy to pick up as normal part of
workflow.

I haven't used 10 but I know there are users who do, again with various
success with QWT. Any of the above approaches will work with 10.
Stumpy, if you need help with any part of this, just ask.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: updating CentOS-7 templates

2018-12-23 Thread unman
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:05:44PM -0500, Achim Patzner wrote:
> Frédéric Pierret  wrote on Sat, 22 December 2018
> 12:16
> > A PR is opened. Waiting Marek's approval. It was related
> > to ABI version requirement not done in the
> > qubes-gui-agent-linux. Between xorg 1.19 and xorg 1.20 the
> > ABI version changed from 23 to 24 so xserver was refusing
> > to load the qubes driver.
> > --
> 
> Just keep in mind more or less the same happens if you
> transmongrify a Debian template into a Kali following
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/pentesting/kali/ which is a
> warning that there are problems ahead as soon as Debian is
> getting its collective ass far enough off the ground to
> update X.
> 
> 
> Achim 

As Frédéric says,  we're working on this so that by the time buster
comes in there will be a fully working solution out the box. It's to be
expected that there will be breakages in Debian if you move to the
testing version.

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[qubes-users] Re: VPN for Linux Dummies

2018-12-23 Thread max via qubes-users
mandag den 17. december 2018 kl. 15.09.48 UTC-5 skrev stefanne...@gmail.com:
snip
> 
> Do you have some hints? (I can`t answer tomorrow, but on wednesday.)
> 

I configured everything I needed via gui, to connect via appvm, but that might 
not work for you. Here's what I did:
https://www.militant.dk/2018/04/15/configuring-cisco-asa-vpn-on-qubes-4-0-with-openconnect/

Sincerely
Max

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