[qubes-users] Watching Netflix on QubesOS with a Windows AppVM

2021-10-11 Thread 'fossdd' via qubes-users
Hey, i'm looking to install QubesOS on a laptop.

But I have a question: Does downloading and watching Netflix with the
Windows UWP app work?

What about latency and lags. What should be the perfect performance.

Many threads says that I can use Chrome, but I also want to download
movies, and this only works with the UWP app from the Microsoft Store.

Thanks for your answers!

fossdd

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[qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.1-rc1 has been released!

2021-10-11 Thread Andrew David Wong

Dear Qubes Community,

After many years of work, the team is pleased to announce the first
release candidate for Qubes 4.1!

Qubes 4.1 includes several major new features, each of which is
explained in depth in its own article:

- Qubes Architecture Next Steps: The GUI Domain [01]
- Qubes Architecture Next Steps: The New Qrexec Policy System [02]
- New Gentoo templates and maintenance infrastructure [03]
- Reproducible builds for Debian: a big step forward [04]

This release candidate also includes numerous other improvements and
bug fixes, which are listed in the release notes [05] and in the issue
tracker [06].

Finally, Qubes 4.1 features the following updated default components:

- Xen 4.14
- Fedora 32 in dom0
- Fedora 34 template
- Debian 11 template
- Whonix 16 Gateway and Workstation templates
- Linux kernel 5.10

Qubes 4.1-rc1 is available on the downloads [07] page.


How to test Qubes 4.1-rc1
-

If you're willing to test [08] this release candidate, you can help to
improve the stable release by reporting any bugs you encounter [09].
Experienced users are strongly encouraged to join the testing team [10]!

There are two ways to migrate to 4.1-rc1:

- Back up [11] your current installation, perform a fresh
  install [12] of 4.1-rc1, then restore [13] from your backup.
- Perform an in-place upgrade [14].


Release candidate planning
--

As with any initial release candidate, it's likely that user testing
will reveal important bugs that we'll want to fix before the stable
release. Depending on the severity of the bugs discovered and how long
it takes to fix them, we expect that it may be anywhere from a few weeks
to a few months before we announce the second release candidate.


[01] https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/03/18/gui-domain/
[02] https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/06/22/new-qrexec-policy-system/
[03] 
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/10/05/new-gentoo-templates-and-maintenance-infrastructure/
[04] 
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2021/10/08/reproducible-builds-for-debian-a-big-step-forward/

[05] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/releases/4.1/release-notes/
[06] 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues?q=milestone%3A%22Release+4.1%22+is%3Aclosed+-label%3A%22R%3A+duplicate%22+-label%3A%22R%3A+invalid%22+-label%3A%22R%3A+cannot+reproduce%22+-label%3A%22R%3A+not+an+issue%22+-label%3A%22R%3A+not+our+bug%22+-label%3A%22R%3A+won%27t+do%22+-label%3A%22R%3A+won%27t+fix%22+

[07] https://www.qubes-os.org/downloads/
[08] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/testing/
[09] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/issue-tracking/
[10] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/joining-the-testing-team/5190
[11] 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/how-to-back-up-restore-and-migrate/#creating-a-backup

[12] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/
[13] 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/how-to-back-up-restore-and-migrate/#restoring-from-a-backup

[14] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/upgrade/4.1/

This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2021/10/11/qubes-4-1-rc1/

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[qubes-users] [Berlin] monthly Qubes Users Berlin meeting - Tuesday October 12 @ 7pm

2021-10-11 Thread Michael Carbone

hi folks,

for those in Berlin you are invited to the monthly Qubes Users Berlin 
meeting!


the next one will be tomorrow Tuesday October 12 at 19h at xHain. more 
details here:


https://qubesusersberlin.github.io

Hope to see you there!
Michael

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Re: [qubes-users] Systemd terminating qubesd during backup?

2021-10-11 Thread Steve Coleman

On 10/11/21 14:07, Rusty Bird wrote:

Steve Coleman:
> I seem to have an intermittent problem when my backup scripts are 
running

> late at night.

> My qubesd is apparently being shutdown (sent a sigterm signal) by 
systemd
> during my long running backup sessions which then causes an eof pipe 
close
> exception and qvm-backup then receives a socket exception and 
immediately
> receives a second exception while still handling the first 
exception, thus
> the qvm-backup process gets forcibly terminated mid stream. Just 
prior to

> the qubesd shutdown I can clearly see that systemd had also
> shutdown/restarted the qubes memory manager (qubes-qmemman) too.

> Q: What kind of background maintenance processing would actually require
> qubesd or the memory manager to be restarted?

It's crond running logrotate. Fixed in R4.1 but not yet in R4.0:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5004

> Q: Could this processing be put on hold during backups?

I always sandwich backup runs between 'systemctl stop crond' and
'systemctl start crond'.


Great!

I was hoping for an answer like that. In my case the system will be 
shutting down after the unattended backup completes, so this is actually 
twice as easy!


thanks!


Rusty

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Re: [qubes-users] Unable to install templates in Qubes OS 4.1beta

2021-10-11 Thread 799
Hello Steve,

thanks for the reply, can you provide more details what you mean by that:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 18:12, Steve Coleman 
wrote:

> [...] In any case you might try cleaning the cache with the --clean option
> and
> then rerunning the download/install.
>

do you mean 'sudo dnf clean all' in dom0 ?

one7two99

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Re: [qubes-users] Systemd terminating qubesd during backup?

2021-10-11 Thread Rusty Bird
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Steve Coleman:
> I seem to have an intermittent problem when my backup scripts are running
> late at night.
> 
> My qubesd is apparently being shutdown (sent a sigterm signal) by systemd
> during my long running backup sessions which then causes an eof pipe close
> exception and qvm-backup then receives a socket exception and immediately
> receives a second exception while still handling the first exception, thus
> the qvm-backup process gets forcibly terminated mid stream. Just prior to
> the qubesd shutdown I can clearly see that systemd had also
> shutdown/restarted the qubes memory manager (qubes-qmemman) too.
> 
> Q: What kind of background maintenance processing would actually require
> qubesd or the memory manager to be restarted?

It's crond running logrotate. Fixed in R4.1 but not yet in R4.0:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5004

> Q: Could this processing be put on hold during backups?

I always sandwich backup runs between 'systemctl stop crond' and
'systemctl start crond'.

Rusty
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[qubes-users] Systemd terminating qubesd during backup?

2021-10-11 Thread Steve Coleman
I seem to have an intermittent problem when my backup scripts are 
running late at night.


My qubesd is apparently being shutdown (sent a sigterm signal) by 
systemd during my long running backup sessions which then causes an eof 
pipe close exception and qvm-backup then receives a socket exception and 
immediately receives a second exception while still handling the first 
exception, thus the qvm-backup process gets forcibly terminated mid 
stream. Just prior to the qubesd shutdown I can clearly see that systemd 
had also shutdown/restarted the qubes memory manager (qubes-qmemman) too.


Q: What kind of background maintenance processing would actually require 
qubesd or the memory manager to be restarted?


Q: Could this processing be put on hold during backups?

Q: Or, how could I at least know when this maintenance is scheduled to 
happen so I could defer my own processing?


My scripts can certainly trap this error, erase the incomplete backup 
file, then loop and check for qubesd to complete its restart, and then 
finally restart my own backup processing, but why should this even be 
necessary?


When this happens its almost always during the backup of my largest VM 
which can take well over 90 minutes to complete.  If I can somehow 
block/defer this kind of system maintenance until after my backups are 
complete that would be better than having to deal with trapping random 
restarts.


thanks,

Steve

Sorry for the amount of text below but googlegroups would not let me 
send this as *.txt attachments:


qvm-backup error:

Making a backup... 56.28%
Connection to qubesd terminated, reconnecting in 1.0 seconds

Backup error: Got empty response from qubesd. See journalctl in dom0 for 
details.


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 580, 
in qubesd_call

    client_socket.connect(qubesadmin.config.QUBESD_SOCKET)
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-run", line 5, in 
    sys.exit(main())
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_run.py", 
line 199, in main

    args = parser.parse_args(args, app=app)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/__init__.py", 
line 384, in parse_args

    action.parse_qubes_app(self, namespace)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/__init__.py", 
line 170, in parse_qubes_app

    namespace.domains += [app.domains[vm_name]]
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 91, 
in __getitem__

    if not self.app.blind_mode and item not in self:
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 114, 
in __contains__

    self.refresh_cache()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 63, 
in refresh_cache

    'admin.vm.List'
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 583, 
in qubesd_call

    'Failed to connect to qubesd service: %s', str(e))
qubesadmin.exc.QubesDaemonCommunicationError: Failed to connect to 
qubesd service: [Errno 2] No such file or directory



journalctl output:
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 systemd[1]: Stopping Qubes memory management daemon...
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 systemd[1]: Stopped Qubes memory management daemon.
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 kernel: audit: type=1131 audit(1633936502.556:250): 
pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'

Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 systemd[1]: Starting Qubes memory management daemon...
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.daemon[18836]: MIN_PREFMEM=199229440 
DOM0_MEM_BOOST=349175808 CACHE_FACTOR=1.3

Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 systemd[1]: Started Qubes memory management daemon.
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 kernel: audit: type=1130 audit(1633936507.784:251): 
pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.daemon.algo[18836]: 
balance_when_enough_memory(xen_free_memory=53353416961, 
total_mem_pref=0, total_available_memory=53353416961)
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.systemstate[18836]: stat: 
xenfree=53405845761 memset_reqs=[]
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.daemon.algo[18836]: 
balance_when_enough_memory(xen_free_memory=53353416961, 
total_mem_pref=0, total_available_memory=53353416961)
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.systemstate[18836]: stat: 
xenfree=53405845761 memset_reqs=[]
Oct 11 

Re: [qubes-users] Unable to install templates in Qubes OS 4.1beta

2021-10-11 Thread Steve Coleman

On 10/11/21 15:55, 799 wrote:


... but if I try install via:
[user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-33

... I can see that it will download the package but I get:

Using sys-net as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take 
some time...
Last metadata expiration check: -1 day, 21:47:12 ago on Mon 11 Oct 
2021 05:49:33 PM CEST.

No match for argument: qubes-template-fedora-33
Error: Unable to find a match: qubes-template-fedora-33

Any idea where I can look for the root cause as I am a bit desparate.


Just a guess here. Is it possible that sys-net is running out of disk 
space from the download and has the matching problem because it wasn't 
physically downloaded?


In any case you might try cleaning the cache with the --clean option and 
then rerunning the download/install.


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[qubes-users] Systemd terminating qubesd during backup?

2021-10-11 Thread Steve Coleman
I seem to have an intermittent problem when my backup scripts are 
running late at night.


My qubesd is apparently being shutdown (sent a sigterm signal) by 
systemd during my long running backup sessions which then causes an eof 
pipe close exception and qvm-backup then receives a socket exception and 
immediately receives a second exception while still handling the first 
exception, thus the qvm-backup process gets forcibly terminated mid 
stream. Just prior to the qubesd shutdown I can clearly see that systemd 
had also shutdown/restarted the qubes memory manager (qubes-qmemman) too.


Q: What kind of background maintenance processing would actually require 
qubesd or the memory manager to be restarted?


Q: Could this processing be put on hold during backups?

Q: Or, how could I at least know when this maintenance is scheduled to 
happen so I could defer my own processing?


My scripts can certainly trap this error, erase the incomplete backup 
file, then loop and check for qubesd to complete its restart, and then 
finally restart my own backup processing, but why should this even be 
necessary?


When this happens its almost always during the backup of my largest VM 
which can take well over 90 minutes to complete.  If I can somehow 
block/defer this kind of system maintenance until after my backups are 
complete that would be better than having to deal with trapping random 
restarts.


thanks,

Steve

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Making a backup... 56.28%
Connection to qubesd terminated, reconnecting in 1.0 seconds

Backup error: Got empty response from qubesd. See journalctl in dom0 for 
details.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 580, in 
qubesd_call
client_socket.connect(qubesadmin.config.QUBESD_SOCKET)
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-run", line 5, in 
sys.exit(main())
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_run.py", line 
199, in main
args = parser.parse_args(args, app=app)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/__init__.py", line 
384, in parse_args
action.parse_qubes_app(self, namespace)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/__init__.py", line 
170, in parse_qubes_app
namespace.domains += [app.domains[vm_name]]
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 91, in 
__getitem__
if not self.app.blind_mode and item not in self:
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 114, in 
__contains__
self.refresh_cache()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 63, in 
refresh_cache
'admin.vm.List'
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/app.py", line 583, in 
qubesd_call
'Failed to connect to qubesd service: %s', str(e))
qubesadmin.exc.QubesDaemonCommunicationError: Failed to connect to qubesd 
service: [Errno 2] No such file or directory





Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 systemd[1]: Stopping Qubes memory management daemon...
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 systemd[1]: Stopped Qubes memory management daemon.
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 kernel: audit: type=1131 audit(1633936502.556:250): pid=1 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:02 dom0 systemd[1]: Starting Qubes memory management daemon...
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.daemon[18836]: MIN_PREFMEM=199229440 
DOM0_MEM_BOOST=349175808 CACHE_FACTOR=1.3
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 systemd[1]: Started Qubes memory management daemon.
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 kernel: audit: type=1130 audit(1633936507.784:251): pid=1 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=qubes-qmemman comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.daemon.algo[18836]: 
balance_when_enough_memory(xen_free_memory=53353416961, total_mem_pref=0, 
total_available_memory=53353416961)
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.systemstate[18836]: stat: xenfree=53405845761 
memset_reqs=[]
Oct 11 03:15:07 dom0 qmemman.daemon.algo[18836]: 

Re: [qubes-users] Unable to install templates in Qubes OS 4.1beta

2021-10-11 Thread unman
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 09:55:47PM +0200, 799 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have setup Qubes 4.1 on my Surface and now I am running into issues
> trying to install more templates.
> sys-net is set as Dom0 Update VM and I am also able to search for packages
> and they get listed correctly.
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template-
> Using sys-net as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some
> time...
> 
> Strangely the output (listed packages) is not shown in dom0 but in the
> sys-net in a windows with sh as shell.
> The first line says: Converting database from bdb_ro to sqlite backend
> Then I get a list of the templates.
> 
> ... but if I try install via:
> [user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-33
> 
> ... I can see that it will download the package but I get:
> 
> Using sys-net as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some
> time...
> Last metadata expiration check: -1 day, 21:47:12 ago on Mon 11 Oct 2021
> 05:49:33 PM CEST.
> No match for argument: qubes-template-fedora-33
> Error: Unable to find a match: qubes-template-fedora-33
> 
> Any idea where I can look for the root cause as I am a bit desparate.
> 
> One7two99
> 

The output appearing in sys-net is a new security feature in 4.1.
The "converting database" line is to be expected (but annoying on each
run with a disposable)

I'm not sure why you see "Unable to find a match".
The obvious reason would be that you already have a fedora-33 template
installed.

What do you mean by - "I can see that it will download the package"?

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[qubes-users] Unable to install templates in Qubes OS 4.1beta

2021-10-11 Thread 799
Hello,

I have setup Qubes 4.1 on my Surface and now I am running into issues
trying to install more templates.
sys-net is set as Dom0 Update VM and I am also able to search for packages
and they get listed correctly.

[user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template-
Using sys-net as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some
time...

Strangely the output (listed packages) is not shown in dom0 but in the
sys-net in a windows with sh as shell.
The first line says: Converting database from bdb_ro to sqlite backend
Then I get a list of the templates.

... but if I try install via:
[user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-33

... I can see that it will download the package but I get:

Using sys-net as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some
time...
Last metadata expiration check: -1 day, 21:47:12 ago on Mon 11 Oct 2021
05:49:33 PM CEST.
No match for argument: qubes-template-fedora-33
Error: Unable to find a match: qubes-template-fedora-33

Any idea where I can look for the root cause as I am a bit desparate.

One7two99

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