Re: [qubes-users] Why Fedora?

2020-08-12 Thread E. Foster
Great discussion, 

In many industries a vendor analysis is conducted on a multitude of parameters 
to indentify the best vendor.  As many from outside the Qubes world have 
gravitated to Qubes for those reasons.  

>From what I am reading, we need all hands on deck and a war chest. 
>Ideologically, you are doing what most IT enterprises whish they could do. 
>From a user stand point, updates are a risk if you can't roll them back. 

There was a mention of a 3rd party vendors that provides installation bridges 
and how they need to be trusted. Currently, I am trying to figure out how to 
install and application directly from the vendor in order to limit the possible 
number of attackers. Is this above my proficiency level?  Very likely, but the 
alternative is to have a 3rd party decide what/when/where to update a scrip or 
what to copy, delete, and modify my data.  

Let me give you another example: did you know that SIM cloning and credit card 
scams can occur because of insider access?

Will paranoia become the new normal? Or can we make good assumptions or 
decissions based on past experiences? 


Let's keep moving forward, 


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[qubes-users] Verifying VM updates and packages

2020-07-06 Thread E. Foster

Hi, 

I've seen several pop-ups for VM updates, since the initial installation.  
And I was wondering what would cause such an action.  

Do the VMs push a notification to update the VM when you make a change in 
the settings on the devices' next boot?   

Or do some updates occur because a template VM has been changed in a 
repository, and the update package  is then pushed to the respective VMs 
using the template?  


b/c

Bizarrely, I have a VM and Template VM that keeps requesting to be updated 
and fails. 


I'm assuming it's an installer application, I installed...but why would it 
not update?

Must I remove the application from the menu, delete it/and reinstall it?  



And lastly, how many times can a device be rebooted before you should be 
concerned about Xen issues. 

Thanks so much for the insight, 








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Re: [qubes-users] Updating Linux and Whonix

2020-07-01 Thread E. Foster
Thanks for the reply, 

I finally started working on the appVMs with the docs in hand.  I've had to 
restart my apps designs from the start after reading some of the docs.  
You're right, there a lot of apps.  I am now trying to find the libre 
office ones to install in a template hopefully I can get in done in the 
next few days.  As a matter of fact, I found this passage.  

in disposablevm-customization.md qvm-prefs: 


You can set an appVM as a template for a disposableVM.  

*qvm-prefs fedora-26-dvm template_**for_**dispvms True*

However, when I tried it I would get the following returned messages: 

*qvm-prefs: error: no such property: 'template_for_dispVM'*

*qvm-prefs: error: no such property: 'template_for_dispms'*


However the exact syntax in the in the Docs show *template_**for_**dispms*.  
Where for is in italics.  

How would you activate italics in Dom0 to write the exact syntax?  Or is 
there another script that will accomplish the feat?  


thanks,  

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 4:50:23 PM UTC, m...@militant.dk wrote:
>
> fredag den 26. juni 2020 kl. 17.06.22 UTC+2 skrev E. Foster:
>>
>>
>> None the less, I am still a little worried about what I did during the 
>> upgrade process.  Because, I can't seem to have any peripheral programs 
>> such libre office or other in an accessible or visible manner.  ( Currently 
>> working on the installs).   There are a lot of programs available for quick 
>> install but once you believe you installed them.  I can't find them in any 
>> drop down menu.  Perhaps, I did something wrong.  
>>
>
> Whatever programs you need in your AppVM's, needs to be installed in your 
> template VM's, the AppVM's are based on. Then you have to "refresh" the 
> menu, becuase you might not want everything in the menu. That is mentioned 
> here:https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/managing-appvm-shortcuts/
>
> However, I am still working on the Zoom install, hopefully, I can figure 
>> out how to upgrade to fedora 31, ---snip
>>
>
> This might work if you change 30 with 31: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/05/30/fedora-30-template-available/ or 
> follow the guide mentioned earlier:
> On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 6:12:03 PM UTC, dhorf-hfr...@hashmail.org 
> wrote:
>>
>> fedora 30 is unsupported. 
>> you should install fedora 31 or 32 first. 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/04/30/fedora-31-template-available/ 
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.qubes-os.org%2Fnews%2F2020%2F04%2F30%2Ffedora-31-template-available%2F=D=1=AFQjCNHZ6LaMGXt1azpY9YUA07-kRybgng>
>>  
>>
>
> Sincerely
> Max
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Getting started with Qubes (in steps)

2020-07-01 Thread E. Foster
Thanks for responding, 

I was busy trying to figure out what to do, 1) work on 4.0.1 or 2)start 
with 4.0.3.  Finally, I decided to go with 4.0.3.  So the install occurred 
last week with the help of some members of the community.  So now, I'd deep 
dived into the config stuff.  It's quite interesting and logical but the 
comands-syntax is a bit rough.  I just hope I don't comprimize my device 
while I am it.  If it weren't for my ISP trying to slow steam downloads I 
might have sent you this email a few days ago.  

thanks, 

Greetings, 
>
> I've been having a lot of difficulty over the past year with Qubes and I 
> wanted to know if I could get some help with the parameters, and 
> dependencies. 
>
> *1 set up the network connections*
>  i.e. Wifi
>
> *2 set up sys-firewall*
>
> *3 set up the sys-net*
> to use Wifi and Firewall
>
> *4 set up  sys-Whonix-gw*
> to use the wifi, firewall and/sys-net
>  
> And a random DSVM that I could use to visit the net for instance.  
>
> ***With the most general/secure parameters so that my system works. 
> Please be mindful, some of the automatic default settings might have 
> changed while I was tinkering with the Qubes OS. 
>
> In the past I worked on making clones but due to the dependencies I can't 
> delete/fix some of the VMs. 
>
> *Question:*
>
> Would you know if this is the proper sequence of setting to set up a Qubes 
> system with the respective dependencies? 
>
> *and...*
>
> Or perhaps, a hyperlink to a post where I could copy the commands or steps 
> to get these basic VM/services and my system working-online. 
>
> Once, secured and connected, I can update all the applications included in 
> the Qubes full install version.  
>
> Please forgive me, if I am not posting in sequence in other topical 
> threads.  
>
> Thanks, 
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Odly enough Rufus can't seem to create bootable USB

2020-07-01 Thread E. Foster
Finally got it installed, thanks so much,  

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 8:18:52 PM UTC, E. Foster wrote:
>
> Greetings,,,
>
> I tried to download 4.0.3 and create a bootable USB but rufus didn't see 
> the ISO folder?   Does this occur often with this version?  Is it still 
> better to use 4.0 and upgrade?  
>
> thanks, 
>

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[qubes-users] Re: qubes-split-ssh

2020-07-01 Thread E. Foster
Funny, 
I was just reading about it last night.  I was hopping to get that config 
set up but I got slowed down by gpg.  I hope SSH is still a viable network 
alternative.

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 2:58:45 PM UTC, panina wrote:
>
> Hi! 
>
> Is anyone else using qubes-split-ssh these days? 
> I've been using it quite a long time, even though it's looking quite 
> outdated. 
> Today I realized something's happened to it - any ssh'ing I'm doing 
> takes an extremely long time to react. 
>
> Does anyone know what might be causing this? I'm not seeing anything in 
> the logs of the affeccted machines (ssh VM, ssh-vault VM, or dom0). 
>
> <3 
> /panina 
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Updating Linux and Whonix

2020-06-26 Thread E. Foster
Greetings, 

Thanks for responding,  

Yes you are correct.  I made a visual mistake.  I read through the 
documentation a week or so ago and those were the version numbers I 
retained.  To answer your question:  Install 4.0.3, Debian 10, Fedora30, 
Whonix 15.  

However, as you said, I should upgrade to Fedora 31.  Or my system should 
have upgraded it to Fedora 31.  Other news flash, I did find the error in 
parameters for setting up whonix connections without the signal.  I had to 
match the templates between advanced and basic in the settings for the VM. 

None the less, I am still a little worried about what I did during the 
upgrade process.  Because, I can't seem to have any peripheral programs 
such libre office or other in an accessible or visible manner.  ( Currently 
working on the installs).   There are a lot of programs available for quick 
install but once you believe you installed them.  I can't find them in any 
drop down menu.  Perhaps, I did something wrong.  

However, I am still working on the Zoom install, hopefully, I can figure 
out how to upgrade to fedora 31, Is there a means to check for all internet 
connections such as Netstat, so I can identify the IPs and block all the 
others?  

Thanks so much for your suggestions,  









On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 6:12:03 PM UTC, dhorf-hfr...@hashmail.org 
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:03:19AM -0700, E. Foster wrote: 
> > I finally got latest version of Qubes installed.  thanks for the 
>
> what version is that? 
>
>
> > version displayed did not change.  From reading the documentation,  The 
> > updater should have updated to Whonix 16, and Fedora 35 or 36 as 
> indicated 
>
> what documentation is that? 
> there is no "fedora 35 or 36" yet. 
> those are versions that will be released in 1-2 years. 
>
>
> > Fedora 30.  Would any of you have some suggestions as to how to build a 
>
> fedora 30 is unsupported. 
> you should install fedora 31 or 32 first. 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/04/30/fedora-31-template-available/ 
>
>
>

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[qubes-users] Updating Linux and Whonix

2020-06-25 Thread E. Foster
Greetings, 

I finally got latest version of Qubes installed.  thanks for the 
suggestions.  

Yet, I ran through a few updates for Debian, Dom() and Whonix however the 
version displayed did not change.  From reading the documentation,  The 
updater should have updated to Whonix 16, and Fedora 35 or 36 as indicated 
in the version table.  It didn't.  What I am trying to figure out were the 
updates needed or suggested, because, I noticed a setting for whonix 
(safest) was downgraded (to standard).   In essence, I'd like to know how 
to either remove the updates/revert or upgrade to the versions suggested in 
the table?  Is there also a way to set the ethernet/wifi to off, so that I 
must physically turn it on before any connections take place.  I suppose 
the default is ON, however I was just asking. 

Also, I've tried to set up a VM for Zoom with Whonix but the settings 
manager for the VM displays a caution symbol.  I didn't know you couldn't 
use Whonix for the connection.  The settings manager does allow 
sys-firewall.  Furthermore, I am having difficulty installing Zoom on 
Fedora 30.  Would any of you have some suggestions as to how to build a 
Zoom VM or a work around for installing the rpm file.  My background is 
Windows and somehow Fedora is a slight leap of faith.   

Thanks,  


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[qubes-users] Odly enough Rufus can't seem to create bootable USB

2020-06-14 Thread E. Foster
Greetings,,,

I tried to download 4.0.3 and create a bootable USB but rufus didn't see 
the ISO folder?   Does this occur often with this version?  Is it still 
better to use 4.0 and upgrade?  

thanks, 

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[qubes-users] Getting started with Qubes (in steps)

2020-06-12 Thread E. Foster
Greetings, 

I've been having a lot of difficulty over the past year with Qubes and I 
wanted to know if I could get some help with the parameters, and 
dependencies. 

*1 set up the network connections*
 i.e. Wifi

*2 set up sys-firewall*

*3 set up the sys-net*
to use Wifi and Firewall

*4 set up  sys-Whonix-gw*
to use the wifi, firewall and/sys-net
 
And a random DSVM that I could use to visit the net for instance.  

***With the most general/secure parameters so that my system works. 
Please be mindful, some of the automatic default settings might have 
changed while I was tinkering with the Qubes OS. 

In the past I worked on making clones but due to the dependencies I can't 
delete/fix some of the VMs. 

*Question:*

Would you know if this is the proper sequence of setting to set up a Qubes 
system with the respective dependencies? 

*and...*

Or perhaps, a hyperlink to a post where I could copy the commands or steps 
to get these basic VM/services and my system working-online. 

Once, secured and connected, I can update all the applications included in 
the Qubes full install version.  

Please forgive me, if I am not posting in sequence in other topical 
threads.  

Thanks, 

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Re: [qubes-users] attach /dev/ttyUSB0 to some qube

2019-11-29 Thread E. Foster


On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 5:10:43 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
>
> haaber: 
> > Hi, I try to play with an programmable esp32 (pretty much like arduino, 
> > but with wireless on board). The problem I have arises from sys-usb: the 
> > usb widget spills out the odd error "QubesException - device attach 
> > failed: no device info received. Connection faild. Check backend for 
> > details". No clue what that means. In sys-usb this device appears as 
> > /dev/ttyUSB0 .  What do I have to do to attach that successfully to a 
> > "esp-flashing qube" that I specially designed for that? Cheers! Bernhard 
> > 
> Try using qvm-usb instead. If that doesn't work, try using it directly 
> from sys-usb (which is not ideal). 
>
> -- 
> - don't top post 
> Mailing list etiquette: 
> - trim quoted reply to only relevant portions 
> - when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots 
>

Greetings,
I find this usb-sys or usb QVM discussion very interesting; however, I am a 
bit lost in your discussion as my computer recognizes usb devices, yet I 
don't know what type of security settings is included in the OS point 
version.  So, in order to practice what you're describling, I would need to 
know what are the parameters.  I just need to figure out how to create a 
sys/VM that reads USB drives, while keeping the drive, domO, 
Temps/standalone, safe. 

How would you create a sys for USBs (files, apps, etc) ?
sys USB mouse(if needed)? (currently works, but I don't see sys-usb in the 
drop down menu, but is it safe?)  
sys USB biometric reader?  (potentially a way to speed up logins or 
temperature readings)  

thanks, 
 

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