Re: [qubes-users] Best Laptop for Qubes 4+ and Heads

[Franz]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 1:36 AM, Chris Laprise  wrote:

> On 08/10/2018 08:25 PM, Franz wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Brown <
>> jonbrownmaste...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>> How bad does the RAM issue affect your VM number you want to run vs
>> what you can run? Can it handle all the required VMs needed by
>> default along with both Whonix templates and split GPG?
>>
>> yes, a part from the system VMs, I usually run 6 VMs. When the machine is
>> fresh started I can easily reach 9 VMs.  But after a couple of days working
>> it doesn't let me start new VMs.
>>
>> How does it actually run performance wise?
>>
>>
>> Smooth and fast.
>>
>> But I never tried gaming or specially intensive tasks.
>>
>
> The ivy bridge CPUs are pretty fast.. the last generation before Intel cut
> max wattage in half with haswell.
>
> BTW there are little tricks to improving RAM usage, as my regular system
> has 8GB. Net and proxy VMs can usually be set to max 350MB RAM, and I find
> dom0+KDE works smoothly with max RAM at 1500MB. Most personal and work VMs
> do fine with max RAM at 1500 - 2000MB.
>
>
I tried reducing RAm allocated to various VMs and dom0  and it much
improved: I am able to get 27 concurring open VMs

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Re: [qubes-users] Best Laptop for Qubes 4+ and Heads

[Chris Laprise]

On 08/10/2018 08:25 PM, Franz wrote:



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Brown 
mailto:jonbrownmaste...@gmail.com>> wrote:


How bad does the RAM issue affect your VM number you want to run vs
what you can run? Can it handle all the required VMs needed by
default along with both Whonix templates and split GPG? 



yes, a part from the system VMs, I usually run 6 VMs. When the machine 
is fresh started I can easily reach 9 VMs.  But after a couple of days 
working it doesn't let me start new VMs.


How does it actually run performance wise?


Smooth and fast.

But I never tried gaming or specially intensive tasks.


The ivy bridge CPUs are pretty fast.. the last generation before Intel 
cut max wattage in half with haswell.


BTW there are little tricks to improving RAM usage, as my regular system 
has 8GB. Net and proxy VMs can usually be set to max 350MB RAM, and I 
find dom0+KDE works smoothly with max RAM at 1500MB. Most personal and 
work VMs do fine with max RAM at 1500 - 2000MB.


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Re: [qubes-users] Best Laptop for Qubes 4+ and Heads

[Franz]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Brown 
wrote:

> How bad does the RAM issue affect your VM number you want to run vs what
> you can run? Can it handle all the required VMs needed by default along
> with both Whonix templates and split GPG?
>

yes, a part from the system VMs, I usually run 6 VMs. When the machine is
fresh started I can easily reach 9 VMs.  But after a couple of days working
it doesn't let me start new VMs.


> How does it actually run performance wise?
>
>
Smooth and fast.

But I never tried gaming or specially intensive tasks.

Please do not top post and do not drop the qubes-users group

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Re: [qubes-users] Best Laptop for Qubes 4+ and Heads

[Franz]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:00 AM,  wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> I am looking for the best laptop for Qubes 4.0+ to take advantage of all
> the features along with Heads. I know Heads only officially supports Lenovo
> Thinkpad 230 but is that the best choice to future proof myself and take
> advantage of all security benefits?
>
> How is the 230 on the binary blob front and other firmware? Is there any
> other technology besides Heads that could enhance Qubes or provide
> better/additional protection?
>
> Here is more info on Heads http://osresearch.net/
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>
I own a couple of x230. Yes they support coreboot and Qubes runs pretty
well. Also intel ME can be blocked. The problems may be that max RAM is
16MB and CPU has only two cores. The first one is harder to accept for me
because I want to keep open more VMs than my RAM allows. But if you can
accept these limitations then x230 is pretty good. There are also new
motherboards on sale here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-THINKPAD-X230-TABLET-SYSTEM-BOARD-04X3744-I7-3520-WITH-CPU-FAN/322898398982?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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[qubes-users] Best Laptop for Qubes 4+ and Heads

[jonbrownmasterit]

Heyo,

I am looking for the best laptop for Qubes 4.0+ to take advantage of all the 
features along with Heads. I know Heads only officially supports Lenovo 
Thinkpad 230 but is that the best choice to future proof myself and take 
advantage of all security benefits?

How is the 230 on the binary blob front and other firmware? Is there any other 
technology besides Heads that could enhance Qubes or provide better/additional 
protection?

Here is more info on Heads http://osresearch.net/

Any help is greatly appreciated. 

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