Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
This happens probably because of the more powerful chips used in the P70. 8 cores. Now to fix this issue either you can check lenovo p70 manual- https://guideusermanual.com/product-name-p70-a-smartphone-manual=331753=English or follow these steps: he battery pack cannot be fully charged by the power-off method in the standard charge time for your compute Solution: The battery pack might be over-discharged. Do the following: - Turn off the device. - Make sure that the over-discharged battery pack is in the device. - Connect the AC adapter to the device and let it charge. - If the optional Quick Charger is available, use it to charge the over-discharged battery pack. - If the battery pack cannot be fully charged in 24 hours, use a new battery pack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f7f1e811-6c97-4312-92bf-b79f17b00a89%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 3:26:04 PM UTC+4, qmast...@gmail.com wrote: > 26 December 2016 г., 18:00:43 UTC-5 tai...@gmx.com написал: > > Lenovo is a shitty company if you care about security, they have stuck > > irremovable rootkits their BIOS 4 separate times and they are partially > > owned by the PRC government > > Having a PRC backdoor is better than NSA one! (most laptop companies are > American, so...) By the way, why not to get a Lenovo G505S laptop? > 1) It is the latest AMD-based laptop which is supported by coreboot open > source BIOS (so no closed source BIOS backdoors), and it does not have Intel > ME backdoor. G505S's APUs are Richland - the last generation before AMD > started to embed their own version of Intel ME, "AMD Security Processor" or > PSP ( > http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/AMDRoadmap-Mobility.png > ) Although a closed source vga blob is still required for working graphics, > luckily a coreboot's YABEL prevents the possible undocumented accesses of vga > blob to other PCI devices > 2) Supported by Qubes 3.2 - see HCL, > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/TS1zfKZ7q8w/JQFkVF4xBgAJ . Most > likely to be supported by Qubes 4.0 ( HVM=y, IOMMU=y, SLAT=y) and seems to > meet its certification criteria so far - > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/07/21/new-hw-certification-for-q4/ <-- > webcam could be covered, speakers and wireless card are not soldered and > could be removed, and just checked the last concerning thing - embedded > microphone is a PCI device, not USB connected ;) > 3) High end version of G505S has a top of the Richland generation A10-5750M > APU, 3352 score at Passmark cpu-benchmark. If to compare with i5-6200U of > Lenovo T460s, 3933 score - 17% faster. But i5-6200U is dual core, while > A10-5750M is quad core. Also, despite being three years older, A10-5750M > integrated graphics is faster than of i5-6200U. According to Passmark: Intel > HD 520 - 844 G3D score, AMD HD 8650G - 950 G3D score, 13% faster. > 3) In contrast with many modern laptops, G505S has two slots for RAM (instead > of one) and its RAM is not soldered. That means: when your RAM fails a > memtest after some years, instead of paying a fortune for the RAM chips > replacement you could just remove RAM and install a new one. Also you could > easily upgrade to 16 GB RAM (2x8GB), which helps not to think of RAM usage > while using Qubes (currently running 14 VMs at the same time, with a lot of > applications started, and they eat just 13 GB out of 16 GB) > 4) G505S has either integrated or both integrated and discrete graphics > (depends on G505S version). In any case, it is AMD only - which has great > open source drivers for Linux. No need for NVIDIA closed source proprietary > drivers with telemetry... > 5) Almost all the components could be replaced by user, even a CPU is not > soldered. Easy to tear down a laptop and assemble it back. Thanks to open > source BIOS, no WiFi card whitelist, so possible to install any wireless card > which has open source drivers for Linux (such as AR9462) > Currently it is almost impossible to buy a new G505S, but the used ones are > selling for cheap (e.g. 3 auctions currently at eBay for G505S version with > A10-5750M APU, 1 UK and 2 US-based, one of them with buy it now price $250 - > half of the original $500) I have an old G505 kicking around somewhere, will give it a go with Qubes 3.2 and then try Coreboot. Thanks for the reminder ! Wonder if this means I can get the KDE Desktop Cube animation to work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f4c06106-90b7-48eb-bf16-a4c758faaa78%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
Hi, delayed thanks for your feedback. I guess this should work, and one could probably replace the kernel rpms (to be installed) with the newer ones, but the hurdle for me was to get a valid iso image back to the usb stick .. [I assume this is simple, provided one knows how to ..] Anyways, time for the screwdriver .. and I can confirm that installing vanilla qubes 3.2 on a supported laptop and upgrading the kernel to 4.8.x (from the unstable repo) resulted in a (mostly) working system. The first boot in the target hardware led to several failures of service VMs not starting, as the wrong PCI devices had been passed through to them. Fortunately, some qvm-pci commands and a reboot later, this was resolved. At present, I have working graphics, Ethernet and WIFI. Sound is working as well. After waking up from sleep, the network is gone, but I am optimistic that this can be sorted out. (Had this problem in the past ..) I will report for the HCL when this is really up and running. For future reference, it would be great though if there were a howto for making an updated install usb / image ... Thanks, Stefan Am Freitag, 13. Januar 2017 00:43:14 UTC+1 schrieb Ángel: > sbore...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thus, is there a (documented) way to add a newer kernel to the 3.2 install > > image? I'd rather avoid taking the SSD out and install qubes in my older > > machine. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Stefan > > For booting the install or for being installed? > > I expect that changing the kernel being used during the install should > be as simple as replacing the isolinux/vmlinuz* / EFI/BOOT/vmlinuz plus > initrd in the install media. > > Changing the kernel that is getting installed may be harder, although it > can surely be inserted into Packages/ but anyway you could drop the > right file into the boot partition just until you get to install it > correctly. > > Make sure you only replace them with a trusted binary, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a4712db1-97cc-477a-97bd-d6edce4ff624%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
26 December 2016 г., 18:00:43 UTC-5 tai...@gmx.com написал: > Lenovo is a shitty company if you care about security, they have stuck > irremovable rootkits their BIOS 4 separate times and they are partially > owned by the PRC government Having a PRC backdoor is better than NSA one! (most laptop companies are American, so...) By the way, why not to get a Lenovo G505S laptop? 1) It is the latest AMD-based laptop which is supported by coreboot open source BIOS (so no closed source BIOS backdoors), and it does not have Intel ME backdoor. G505S's APUs are Richland - the last generation before AMD started to embed their own version of Intel ME, "AMD Security Processor" or PSP ( http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/AMDRoadmap-Mobility.png ) Although a closed source vga blob is still required for working graphics, luckily a coreboot's YABEL prevents the possible undocumented accesses of vga blob to other PCI devices 2) Supported by Qubes 3.2 - see HCL, https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/TS1zfKZ7q8w/JQFkVF4xBgAJ . Most likely to be supported by Qubes 4.0 ( HVM=y, IOMMU=y, SLAT=y) and seems to meet its certification criteria so far - https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/07/21/new-hw-certification-for-q4/ <-- webcam could be covered, speakers and wireless card are not soldered and could be removed, and just checked the last concerning thing - embedded microphone is a PCI device, not USB connected ;) 3) High end version of G505S has a top of the Richland generation A10-5750M APU, 3352 score at Passmark cpu-benchmark. If to compare with i5-6200U of Lenovo T460s, 3933 score - 17% faster. But i5-6200U is dual core, while A10-5750M is quad core. Also, despite being three years older, A10-5750M integrated graphics is faster than of i5-6200U. According to Passmark: Intel HD 520 - 844 G3D score, AMD HD 8650G - 950 G3D score, 13% faster. 3) In contrast with many modern laptops, G505S has two slots for RAM (instead of one) and its RAM is not soldered. That means: when your RAM fails a memtest after some years, instead of paying a fortune for the RAM chips replacement you could just remove RAM and install a new one. Also you could easily upgrade to 16 GB RAM (2x8GB), which helps not to think of RAM usage while using Qubes (currently running 14 VMs at the same time, with a lot of applications started, and they eat just 13 GB out of 16 GB) 4) G505S has either integrated or both integrated and discrete graphics (depends on G505S version). In any case, it is AMD only - which has great open source drivers for Linux. No need for NVIDIA closed source proprietary drivers with telemetry... 5) Almost all the components could be replaced by user, even a CPU is not soldered. Easy to tear down a laptop and assemble it back. Thanks to open source BIOS, no WiFi card whitelist, so possible to install any wireless card which has open source drivers for Linux (such as AR9462) Currently it is almost impossible to buy a new G505S, but the used ones are selling for cheap (e.g. 3 auctions currently at eBay for G505S version with A10-5750M APU, 1 UK and 2 US-based, one of them with buy it now price $250 - half of the original $500) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9e475d58-682b-4a38-973e-f19d45521cab%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
sbore...@gmail.com wrote: > Thus, is there a (documented) way to add a newer kernel to the 3.2 install > image? I'd rather avoid taking the SSD out and install qubes in my older > machine. > > Thanks in advance, > > Stefan For booting the install or for being installed? I expect that changing the kernel being used during the install should be as simple as replacing the isolinux/vmlinuz* / EFI/BOOT/vmlinuz plus initrd in the install media. Changing the kernel that is getting installed may be harder, although it can surely be inserted into Packages/ but anyway you could drop the right file into the boot partition just until you get to install it correctly. Make sure you only replace them with a trusted binary, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1484264579.1203.10.camel%4016bits.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
I somehow overlooked this discussion before ordering a new laptop; thus, I am stuck with a Lenovo T560 which reboots immediately/endlessly when trying to install. Thus, is there a (documented) way to add a newer kernel to the 3.2 install image? I'd rather avoid taking the SSD out and install qubes in my older machine. Thanks in advance, Stefan [Curiously, I could install debian jessie with a 3.16 kernel (obviously no Xen!) without problems and aside from wireless networking everythings seems to work out of the box] Am Dienstag, 27. Dezember 2016 00:13:12 UTC+1 schrieb Marek Marczykowski-Górecki: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 08:29:55PM +0100, 'Olivier Médoc' via qubes-users > wrote: > > Maybe, Qubes installer bootloader could support both stable and unstable > > kernels, in order to support new hardware ? > > I'd wait for the next longterm support kernel, then maybe release > updated installation disk with it. > > - -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYYaPoAAoJENuP0xzK19csvZMH/R16udTk/sYcGotx1OK+GOHt > y1mmDYBkTHJ3Moapd/AAoBuSlZolz9FuYst5XwPx5paWgVj9vFeuvfd+ZmHozUin > xnwD47XAh56AEycdbm4BK54NtOPZ9xohK018R/29s/RhAvZsWiMCu4a1k6FXbP4X > iArEfOGraZmJ95MF23VM2jnaPORaNXkMhUhydDYsS44lku4SefddpxCsIIbK6H7R > YXCibjXF8BgZmyZFK0IZUxJjpeNpKorD2uDd1j5hIM3zAnKUUZHRIQ4OiWUBIL7y > WPNYMRRnssnb3gycCw3bWXQD91pQjyX8YpOmRylhRKbVHUv3nPSCvxpPzH2zJJA= > =Jw8Z > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0c400967-b66c-497b-8ed7-a1e58f71aa08%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
On 12/27/2016 12:12 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 08:29:55PM +0100, 'Olivier Médoc' via > qubes-users wrote: > > Maybe, Qubes installer bootloader could support both stable and unstable > > kernels, in order to support new hardware ? > > I'd wait for the next longterm support kernel, then maybe release > updated installation disk with it. > Hello, That would be perfect. For now I can at least install it on older hardware. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e0c1586f-000d-abd9-0fa1-6067e5aca2cf%40yahoo.fr. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 08:29:55PM +0100, 'Olivier Médoc' via qubes-users wrote: > Maybe, Qubes installer bootloader could support both stable and unstable > kernels, in order to support new hardware ? I'd wait for the next longterm support kernel, then maybe release updated installation disk with it. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYYaPoAAoJENuP0xzK19csvZMH/R16udTk/sYcGotx1OK+GOHt y1mmDYBkTHJ3Moapd/AAoBuSlZolz9FuYst5XwPx5paWgVj9vFeuvfd+ZmHozUin xnwD47XAh56AEycdbm4BK54NtOPZ9xohK018R/29s/RhAvZsWiMCu4a1k6FXbP4X iArEfOGraZmJ95MF23VM2jnaPORaNXkMhUhydDYsS44lku4SefddpxCsIIbK6H7R YXCibjXF8BgZmyZFK0IZUxJjpeNpKorD2uDd1j5hIM3zAnKUUZHRIQ4OiWUBIL7y WPNYMRRnssnb3gycCw3bWXQD91pQjyX8YpOmRylhRKbVHUv3nPSCvxpPzH2zJJA= =Jw8Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161226231240.GA1159%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
Lenovo is a shitty company if you care about security, they have stuck irremovable rootkits their BIOS 4 separate times and they are partially owned by the PRC government. Not to mention how they've ruined the thinkpad line and made it just another consumer level laptop. I wouldn't buy from them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1adaa488-ef5c-6375-1746-35f6a434e80f%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
On 04/30/2016 09:13 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > Has anyone had a chance to test (or is in a position to test) Qubes > compatibility with any of the new higher-end Lenovo laptops, such as > the X1 Carbon (4th Gen), the T460/p, or the T560? > > The only information I'm aware of so far is Linus' (very helpful) > thread about the T460s: > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/-xXKdAkIjxU/discussion > Qubes R3.2 works on Lenovo Thinkpad T560, however the installer is not working properly as it does not use at least kernel 4.5. In order to install it, I had : 1/ to extract the T560 laptop SSD, install Qubes using a different supported laptop, and pluging the extracted SSD as an external hard drive. 2/ Then, the kernel must be upgraded to unstable (kernel 4.8), still on the supported laptop by enabling qubes-dom0-unstable. 3/ Finally, shutdown the laptop, reinstall the SSD inside the Lenovo T560, and it should work straightaway. It seems to work properly, I have not tested thoroughly all features. Maybe, Qubes installer bootloader could support both stable and unstable kernels, in order to support new hardware ? Regards, Olivier Médoc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3fda7a4c-e8e9-0fa8-b77c-980c026d54de%40yahoo.fr. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New Lenovo laptops: X1 (4th Gen), T460/p, and T560
On 04/30/2016 09:49 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:13:13AM -0700, Andrew David Wong wrote: >> Has anyone had a chance to test (or is in a position to test) Qubes >> compatibility with any of the new higher-end Lenovo laptops, such as >> the X1 Carbon (4th Gen), the T460/p, or the T560? > they need kernels with proper skylake support, so 4.5 at least, probably > better 4.6 or 4.7. Not sure whether this also needs newer X. With kernel > 4.1.13 from qubes, the graphics are completly broken after suspend and > the power consumption is at least double of what it should be (=less > than half of the battery time than under 4.5). > > According to http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/41713.html running this > hardware with such an old kernel might actually harm the CPU physically. I can confirm that a Qubes 3.2 can boot on a Lenovo T560, however it requires the kernel4.8 present in the qubes-dom0-unstable repository. Without this kernel, the installer, or an already installed system will reboot. It is however possible to install the system on an external disk and update the kernel from the unstable repository. The hard drive with the updated system will then properly boot if used on the Lenovo T560. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c0d18816-ee18-3161-9bf5-9c488970fc39%40yahoo.fr. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
