AW: Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
Hello, Original-Nachricht An 27. Feb. 2018, 23:58, Alex Dubois schrieb: > Would you know have to validate the rpm > signature by any chance? Haven't tried it out, but you're asking to verify the rpm package prior to installing it? Something like this? Verifying the signatures of packages https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-check-rpm-sig.html [799] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/631e9154-8387-4c78-a803-6f42a4adb315%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/xY9ORfM1zuHxZ4fiWbw696dRx2VFtnJ0QBtV7j-NGVQ4fFgVxUS60DCsbQfNr1An_nvJ5W3mj8--IPbBplno3K9khCNY5hBJtiq3gE0PMRw%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, 9 February 2018 19:02:13 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 02/09/18 20:56, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:43:06 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > >> On 02/09/18 20:23, Alex Dubois wrote: > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:01:08 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >> On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > Hi, > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after > displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > I've tried > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > but same problem > >>> > >>> Fixed. > >>> The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > >>> qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > >>> > >>> I'll update the doc. > >> > >> I have also tested that > >> qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > >> is NOT required (in my case). > > > > I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the > > first reboot. > > > > This thread provide a comprehensive view > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 > > > > FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a > working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga > (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). > > Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) > >>> > >>> Yes thanks a lot. I have now a working win7. Starting Windows-Tools > >>> install. > >> > >> I just did that :) - it works well... (but don't try to install the pv > >> storage driver otherwise you'll get a BSOD). > > > > Thanks for the warning ;-) > > > > I can't find qubes-windows-tools > > is it in testing branch? > > Yes (in R3.2): > > https://yum.qubes-os.org/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/qubes-windows-tools-3.2.2-3.x86_64.rpm > > Extract with: > > rpm2cpio qubes-windows-tools-3.2.2-3.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmv > > And start the VM (assuming the iso is in the 'untrusted' VM): > > qvm-start --cdrom=untrusted:/home/user/qubes-windows-tools.iso win7 Would you know have to validate the rpm signature by any chance? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/631e9154-8387-4c78-a803-6f42a4adb315%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Saturday, 10 February 2018 04:39:14 UTC, Yuraeitha wrote: > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 8:02:13 PM UTC+1, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > On 02/09/18 20:56, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:43:06 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > >> On 02/09/18 20:23, Alex Dubois wrote: > > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:01:08 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > >> On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after > > displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > > > I've tried > > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > > but same problem > > >>> > > >>> Fixed. > > >>> The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > > >>> qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > > >>> > > >>> I'll update the doc. > > >> > > >> I have also tested that > > >> qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > > >> is NOT required (in my case). > > > > > > I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the > > > first reboot. > > > > > > This thread provide a comprehensive view > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 > > > > > > > FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a > > working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga > > (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). > > > > Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) > > >>> > > >>> Yes thanks a lot. I have now a working win7. Starting Windows-Tools > > >>> install. > > >> > > >> I just did that :) - it works well... (but don't try to install the pv > > >> storage driver otherwise you'll get a BSOD). > > > > > > Thanks for the warning ;-) > > > > > > I can't find qubes-windows-tools > > > is it in testing branch? > > > > Yes (in R3.2): > > > > https://yum.qubes-os.org/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/qubes-windows-tools-3.2.2-3.x86_64.rpm > > > > Extract with: > > > > rpm2cpio qubes-windows-tools-3.2.2-3.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmv > > > > And start the VM (assuming the iso is in the 'untrusted' VM): > > > > qvm-start --cdrom=untrusted:/home/user/qubes-windows-tools.iso win7 > > Nice one Ivan, this really pushes forward the ability to re-install Win7 > without having to use Qubes 3.2. for it. > > @Alex > Do you feel the system is as stable as it was on Qubes 3.2. with this fresh > re-install on Qubes 4? Of course with the included Qubes 4 required > adjustments like network, page-file, and so on. I am not using Windows day to day. It is more to help the project that I spend time on it. I had tried a number of things with previous version of Qubes. Trying to get all things to work on R4. I Have not yet done the QWT. I think there is still some wokr for non tech users to feel as comfortable. It is stable but there are a number of small usability bugs. nothing you can't solve if you are happy to close qubes-manager and re-open or launch a dom0 command or two. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/656e7fe2-a77d-41fb-8819-1489a7256f89%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 8:02:13 PM UTC+1, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 02/09/18 20:56, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:43:06 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > >> On 02/09/18 20:23, Alex Dubois wrote: > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:01:08 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >> On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > Hi, > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after > displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > I've tried > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > but same problem > >>> > >>> Fixed. > >>> The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > >>> qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > >>> > >>> I'll update the doc. > >> > >> I have also tested that > >> qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > >> is NOT required (in my case). > > > > I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the > > first reboot. > > > > This thread provide a comprehensive view > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 > > > > FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a > working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga > (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). > > Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) > >>> > >>> Yes thanks a lot. I have now a working win7. Starting Windows-Tools > >>> install. > >> > >> I just did that :) - it works well... (but don't try to install the pv > >> storage driver otherwise you'll get a BSOD). > > > > Thanks for the warning ;-) > > > > I can't find qubes-windows-tools > > is it in testing branch? > > Yes (in R3.2): > > https://yum.qubes-os.org/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/qubes-windows-tools-3.2.2-3.x86_64.rpm > > Extract with: > > rpm2cpio qubes-windows-tools-3.2.2-3.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmv > > And start the VM (assuming the iso is in the 'untrusted' VM): > > qvm-start --cdrom=untrusted:/home/user/qubes-windows-tools.iso win7 Nice one Ivan, this really pushes forward the ability to re-install Win7 without having to use Qubes 3.2. for it. @Alex Do you feel the system is as stable as it was on Qubes 3.2. with this fresh re-install on Qubes 4? Of course with the included Qubes 4 required adjustments like network, page-file, and so on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5a0dde8f-1000-4ef9-bbf3-b587d9434a14%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:43:06 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 02/09/18 20:23, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:01:08 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > >> On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > >> Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > >> But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after > >> displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > >> > >> At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > >> > >> I've tried > >> qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > >> but same problem > > > > Fixed. > > The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > > qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > > > > I'll update the doc. > > I have also tested that > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > is NOT required (in my case). > >>> > >>> I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the first > >>> reboot. > >>> > >>> This thread provide a comprehensive view > >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 > >>> > >> > >> FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a > >> working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga > >> (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). > >> > >> Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) > > > > Yes thanks a lot. I have now a working win7. Starting Windows-Tools install. > > I just did that :) - it works well... (but don't try to install the pv > storage driver otherwise you'll get a BSOD). Thanks for the warning ;-) I can't find qubes-windows-tools is it in testing branch? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d0327049-68f6-425e-9cc5-990627c14be3%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On 02/09/18 20:23, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:01:08 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: Hi, After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 I've tried qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus but same problem Fixed. The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 I'll update the doc. I have also tested that qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus is NOT required (in my case). I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the first reboot. This thread provide a comprehensive view https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) Yes thanks a lot. I have now a working win7. Starting Windows-Tools install. I just did that :) - it works well... (but don't try to install the pv storage driver otherwise you'll get a BSOD). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bbda2c2c-ba25-4eaf-d75b-9db10084f6af%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, 9 February 2018 18:01:08 UTC, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >> On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > >>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > Hi, > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after > displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > I've tried > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > but same problem > >>> > >>> Fixed. > >>> The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > >>> qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > >>> > >>> I'll update the doc. > >> > >> I have also tested that > >> qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > >> is NOT required (in my case). > > > > I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the first > > reboot. > > > > This thread provide a comprehensive view > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 > > > > FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a > working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga > (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). > > Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) Yes thanks a lot. I have now a working win7. Starting Windows-Tools install. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7f15f159-955c-4811-86d7-20d0b6d195be%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On 02/09/18 19:37, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: Hi, After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after displaying the graphical splash screen Starting Windows At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 I've tried qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus but same problem Fixed. The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 I'll update the doc. I have also tested that qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus is NOT required (in my case). I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the first reboot. This thread provide a comprehensive view https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 FYI once the second part of the installation is complete and you have a working windows VM, you can revert the display adapter to standard vga (qvm-features --unset win7 video-model). Happy that the qubes-devel thread was useful :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6a28db7e-d3cb-b30d-2c80-27630f5b498f%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:17:19 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > > > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > > > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after displaying > > > the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > > > > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > > > > > I've tried > > > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > > > but same problem > > > > Fixed. > > The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > > qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > > > > I'll update the doc. > > I have also tested that > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > is NOT required (in my case). I should test fully before saying things. It was required after the first reboot. This thread provide a comprehensive view https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/tBqwJmOAJ94 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7c4bf0cc-9daf-4b7b-93fd-fd02a3203a4e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:07:27 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after displaying > > the graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > > > I've tried > > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > > but same problem > > Fixed. > The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. > qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 > > I'll update the doc. I have also tested that qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus is NOT required (in my case). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/219e8663-dfa0-4a9d-936e-ad6516ca7ea0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Windows on R4 (rc4) - Install crash on splash screen: Starting Windows
On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:31:10 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > Hi, > > After booting the win7 VM, the DVD get recognized. > Windows is loading file progress bar is going smoothly > But the win7 VM goes into halted or transient state just after displaying the > graphical splash screen Starting Windows > > At the moment I am exploring how to resolve this issue in R4 > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488 > > I've tried > qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus > but same problem Fixed. The minimum specs from Microsoft for Windows 7 64bits is 2GB of RAM. qvm-prefs win7 memory 2048 I'll update the doc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a07e2bc1-2c48-4738-abb7-43d08edf27a5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
