Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

['Olivier Médoc' via qubes-users]

> Oiivier,
>
> Its great pacman is now supported for updating.  When I was working with 
> others to update the  build and doc to work with newer archlinux versions I 
> tried most everything asking many on the archlinux forum for help.  No one 
> could offer a good solution that did not break update security or require 
> manual opening and closing of the firewall access.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/tim$20w$20pacman/qubes-users/vT_ETcU5BvQ/sDhu879WDQAJ
>  I also had a thread on dev.  
>
> How was the functionality added?  To pacman to allow for proxy addition 
> without going thru wget or thru a change in qubes update proxy service?  
Hello,

In fact I use curl which is included by default (as pacman apparently
use curl libraries anyway). I update the configuration in /etc/pacman.d/
to use curl with a proxy by calling curl with http_proxy environment
variable.

No changes is actually required to the qubes update proxy.

> I found the powerpill pacman wrapper which used aria2 to allow for proxy 
> without breaking update proxy security to be at the time the best avenue not 
> to mention its added power and speed.  The only issue to have made everything 
> completely smooth was the reflector app to keep update mirror list current 
> had no option to allow for a proxy entry.  I planned to send a email to xyne 
> to see if he could add it as he has been quite responsive in the past to 
> similar request.
>
> Really glad its now working.  The reason I ask about how it was addressed is 
> I wondered if it would allow reflector program to go thru or does it have 
> still have the proxy option to plug in the ip?
>
> Thanks again for keeping the distro updated and working.
>
I did not tested reflector yet.

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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Franz]

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Tim W  wrote:

> On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 3:00:40 PM UTC-5, hed...@tutanota.com
> wrote:
> > @Olivier Medoc
> >
> >
> > First off, thank you for all the work you've clearly put into the Arch
> Linux build and documentation for Qubes.
> >
> >
> > FYI, I'd just like to add my own experiences when I tried to use the new
> template. (Since I was using the ready-built template, I skipped your build
> instructions and started at section "Package Manager Proxy Setup Section".):
> >
> >
> > 1. After the initial download, the template VM wouldn't close down and
> was eventually killed by the qubes-dom0-update script. That behaviour was
> repeated after I started and tried to shutdown the template VM myself.
> > 2. Just like Francesco, I had difficulty reading the command lines,
> because it is virtually impossible to distinguish a single- from a
> double-dash and copy/paste wasn't working. I tried in both Firefox and
> Chromium so it wasn't browser related. A fixed-pitch font should do the
> trick.
> > 3. Since gnome-terminal wouldn't open, it would have been useful if you
> had specifically named the "archlinux terminal app" for those of us not
> versed in Arch Linux. I used xterm as a fallback, which worked, but later
> found out that there is an xfce4-terminal that is very like gnome-terminal.
> > 4. Step 3 Install Pacman failed with an error about a database file not
> existing. Some research led me to try "pacman -Syy" (I think without
> "sudo") which did the trick.
> > 5. Step 7 Configure Powerpill...  the description (though not the
> example) omits the need for a comma on the preceding line.
> >
> >
> > Otherwise, it's now all up and running. Now all I have to do is get my
> head around Arch!
> >
> >
> > Mike
>
> Mike,
>
> The errors in syntax in the instructions are my fault.  I helped update
> the entire instruction guide and obviously there are some typos.   While I
> did post it all up for review those must have slipped thru.  It was alot of
> new instructions and images.  I was trying to make it so people could c
> the various cmds to try and make it that much easier.   The issue being
> that some of them did not obviously transfer correctly and or I typo'd.
> Not sure how it happened as I took the images and c the cmds as part of a
> full template build which was successful but somehow it seems it did happen.
>
> The reason powerpill was not given specific configs was at the time a
> number of people had posted that pacman should have had a option to config
> the proxy ip which ended up not being the case at least not from anything I
> could find.  I left it up to the end user then to decide as it was not a
> direct part of building the actual archlinux template.
>
> I am happy to add the powerpill config instructions but if you do a basic
> search on its use of aria2 that it uses its straight forward.  Its a basic
> config file with single line item config with very basic syntax.  It would
> have to be for me to get it to work LOL.
>
> The instruction page is 100% editable for change submissions so any errors
> you see you can submit the changes to fix it.  If you prefer list them here
> giving me the step number and the error and I can go back and fix it.
>
>
Tim
from your lat two emails it seems the problem was solved. But I am confused
how it was solved. You posted a link to this thread
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/tim$20w$20pacman/qubes-users/vT_ETcU5BvQ/sDhu879WDQAJ
but it seems too old. May you clarify a little bit please?
Best
Fran


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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Tim W]

On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 3:00:40 PM UTC-5, hed...@tutanota.com wrote:
> @Olivier Medoc
> 
> 
> First off, thank you for all the work you've clearly put into the Arch Linux 
> build and documentation for Qubes.
> 
> 
> FYI, I'd just like to add my own experiences when I tried to use the new 
> template. (Since I was using the ready-built template, I skipped your build 
> instructions and started at section "Package Manager Proxy Setup Section".):
> 
> 
> 1. After the initial download, the template VM wouldn't close down and was 
> eventually killed by the qubes-dom0-update script. That behaviour was 
> repeated after I started and tried to shutdown the template VM myself.
> 2. Just like Francesco, I had difficulty reading the command lines, because 
> it is virtually impossible to distinguish a single- from a double-dash and 
> copy/paste wasn't working. I tried in both Firefox and Chromium so it wasn't 
> browser related. A fixed-pitch font should do the trick.
> 3. Since gnome-terminal wouldn't open, it would have been useful if you had 
> specifically named the "archlinux terminal app" for those of us not versed in 
> Arch Linux. I used xterm as a fallback, which worked, but later found out 
> that there is an xfce4-terminal that is very like gnome-terminal.
> 4. Step 3 Install Pacman failed with an error about a database file not 
> existing. Some research led me to try "pacman -Syy" (I think without "sudo") 
> which did the trick. 
> 5. Step 7 Configure Powerpill...  the description (though not the example) 
> omits the need for a comma on the preceding line.
> 
> 
> Otherwise, it's now all up and running. Now all I have to do is get my head 
> around Arch!
> 
> 
> Mike

Mike,

The errors in syntax in the instructions are my fault.  I helped update the 
entire instruction guide and obviously there are some typos.   While I did post 
it all up for review those must have slipped thru.  It was alot of new 
instructions and images.  I was trying to make it so people could c the 
various cmds to try and make it that much easier.   The issue being that some 
of them did not obviously transfer correctly and or I typo'd.  Not sure how it 
happened as I took the images and c the cmds as part of a full template build 
which was successful but somehow it seems it did happen.

The reason powerpill was not given specific configs was at the time a number of 
people had posted that pacman should have had a option to config the proxy ip 
which ended up not being the case at least not from anything I could find.  I 
left it up to the end user then to decide as it was not a direct part of 
building the actual archlinux template.

I am happy to add the powerpill config instructions but if you do a basic 
search on its use of aria2 that it uses its straight forward.  Its a basic 
config file with single line item config with very basic syntax.  It would have 
to be for me to get it to work LOL.

The instruction page is 100% editable for change submissions so any errors you 
see you can submit the changes to fix it.  If you prefer list them here giving 
me the step number and the error and I can go back and fix it.

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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Tim W]

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 3:05:55 AM UTC-5, Olivier Médoc wrote:
> On 12/30/2016 03:59 AM, Franz wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM,
> Franz <169...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> On Mon,
>   Dec 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM, J. Eppler 
> 
>   wrote:
> 
>   Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I just wanted to thank the person who created
> and uploaded the qubes-template-archlinux 3.0.6
> to the Qubes OS 3.2 rpm repo.
> 
> 
> 
> Saved a lot of work.
> 
> 
> 
> You can installed it with:
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update
> --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
> qubes-template-archlinux
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> A really nice Christmas present! Thanks
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> When I digit 
> 
>    sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux
> 
> 
> 
> I get
> 
> 
> 
> pacman-key: invalid option -- 'p'
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I found the issue, there is a small clerical error in
>   the documentation with a single"-". It should be 
> 
>   sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux
> 
> 
> 
> not
> 
>   sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> By the way, the Qubes Update Proxy Service is now supported and most
> of the pacman configuration occurs in /etc/pacman.d/ files with
> requiring specific changes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I will check that based on a new template and fix the documentation
> accordingly.


Oiivier,

Its great pacman is now supported for updating.  When I was working with others 
to update the  build and doc to work with newer archlinux versions I tried most 
everything asking many on the archlinux forum for help.  No one could offer a 
good solution that did not break update security or require manual opening and 
closing of the firewall access.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/tim$20w$20pacman/qubes-users/vT_ETcU5BvQ/sDhu879WDQAJ
 I also had a thread on dev.  

How was the functionality added?  To pacman to allow for proxy addition without 
going thru wget or thru a change in qubes update proxy service?  

I found the powerpill pacman wrapper which used aria2 to allow for proxy 
without breaking update proxy security to be at the time the best avenue not to 
mention its added power and speed.  The only issue to have made everything 
completely smooth was the reflector app to keep update mirror list current had 
no option to allow for a proxy entry.  I planned to send a email to xyne to see 
if he could add it as he has been quite responsive in the past to similar 
request.

Really glad its now working.  The reason I ask about how it was addressed is I 
wondered if it would allow reflector program to go thru or does it have still 
have the proxy option to plug in the ip?

Thanks again for keeping the distro updated and working.

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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Franz]

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 5:00 PM,  wrote:

> @Olivier Medoc
>
> First off, thank you for all the work you've clearly put into the Arch
> Linux build and documentation for Qubes.
>
> FYI, I'd just like to add my own experiences when I tried to use the new
> template. (Since I was using the ready-built template, I skipped your build
> instructions and started at section "Package Manager Proxy Setup Section".):
>
> 1. After the initial download, the template VM wouldn't close down and was
> eventually killed by the qubes-dom0-update script. That behaviour was
> repeated after I started and tried to shutdown the template VM myself.
> 2. Just like Francesco, I had difficulty reading the command lines,
> because it is virtually impossible to distinguish a single- from a
> double-dash and copy/paste wasn't working. I tried in both Firefox and
> Chromium so it wasn't browser related. A fixed-pitch font should do the
> trick.
> 3. Since gnome-terminal wouldn't open, it would have been useful if you
> had specifically named the "archlinux terminal app" for those of us not
> versed in Arch Linux. I used xterm as a fallback, which worked, but later
> found out that there is an xfce4-terminal that is very like gnome-terminal.
> 4. Step 3 Install Pacman failed with an error about a database file not
> existing. Some research led me to try "pacman -Syy" (I think without
> "sudo") which did the trick.
> 5. Step 7 Configure Powerpill...  the description (though not the example)
> omits the need for a comma on the preceding line.
>
> Otherwise, it's now all up and running. Now all I have to do is get my
> head around Arch!
>
>
Mine is also working! Thanks to Olivier for your long time commitment.
Happy new Year!


> Mike
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[hedron]

@Olivier Medoc
First off, thank you for all the work you've clearly put into the Arch Linux 
build and documentation for Qubes.
FYI, I'd just like to add my own experiences when I tried to use the new 
template. (Since I was using the ready-built template, I skipped your build 
instructions and started at section "Package Manager Proxy Setup Section".):
1. After the initial download, the template VM wouldn't close down and was 
eventually killed by the qubes-dom0-update script. That behaviour was repeated 
after I started and tried to shutdown the template VM myself.2. Just like 
Francesco, I had difficulty reading the command lines, because it is virtually 
impossible to distinguish a single- from a double-dash and copy/paste wasn't 
working. I tried in both Firefox and Chromium so it wasn't browser related. A 
fixed-pitch font should do the trick.3. Since gnome-terminal wouldn't open, it 
would have been useful if you had specifically named the "archlinux terminal 
app" for those of us not versed in Arch Linux. I used xterm as a fallback, 
which worked, but later found out that there is an xfce4-terminal that is very 
like gnome-terminal.4. Step 3 Install Pacman failed with an error about a 
database file not existing. Some research led me to try "pacman -Syy" (I think 
without "sudo") which did the trick. 5. Step 7 Configure Powerpill...  the 
description (though not the example) omits the need for a comma on the 
preceding line.
Otherwise, it's now all up and running. Now all I have to do is get my head 
around Arch!
Mike

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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Franz]

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 5:05 AM, 'Olivier Médoc' via qubes-users <
qubes-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> On 12/30/2016 03:59 AM, Franz wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Franz <169...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM, J. Eppler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to thank the person who created and uploaded the
>>> qubes-template-archlinux 3.0.6 to the Qubes OS 3.2 rpm repo.
>>>
>>> Saved a lot of work.
>>>
>>> You can installed it with:
>>> sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
>>> qubes-template-archlinux
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> A really nice Christmas present! Thanks
>>
>> When I digit
>>  sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux
>> I get
>> pacman-key: invalid option -- 'p'
>>
>>
> I found the issue, there is a small clerical error in the documentation
> with a single"-". It should be
> sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux
> not
> sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux
>
>
> By the way, the Qubes Update Proxy Service is now supported and most of
> the pacman configuration occurs in /etc/pacman.d/ files with requiring
> specific changes.
>
>
>
> I will check that based on a new template and fix the documentation
> accordingly.
>
>
Many thanks :-))

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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

['Olivier Médoc' via qubes-users]

On 12/30/2016 03:59 AM, Franz wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Franz <169...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM, J. Eppler
> > wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to thank the person who created and uploaded the
> qubes-template-archlinux 3.0.6 to the Qubes OS 3.2 rpm repo.
>
> Saved a lot of work.
>
> You can installed it with:
> sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
> qubes-template-archlinux
>
>
>
> A really nice Christmas present! Thanks
>
> When I digit
>  sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux
> I get
> pacman-key: invalid option -- 'p'
>
>
> I found the issue, there is a small clerical error in the
> documentation with a single"-". It should be
> sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux
> not
> sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux

By the way, the Qubes Update Proxy Service is now supported and most of
the pacman configuration occurs in /etc/pacman.d/ files with requiring
specific changes.



I will check that based on a new template and fix the documentation
accordingly.

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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Franz]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Franz <169...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM, J. Eppler 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just wanted to thank the person who created and uploaded the
>> qubes-template-archlinux 3.0.6 to the Qubes OS 3.2 rpm repo.
>>
>> Saved a lot of work.
>>
>> You can installed it with:
>> sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
>> qubes-template-archlinux
>>
>>
>>
> A really nice Christmas present! Thanks
>
> When I digit
>  sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux
> I get
> pacman-key: invalid option -- 'p'
>
>
I found the issue, there is a small clerical error in the documentation
with a single"-". It should be
sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux
not
sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux

Best
Fran

> Best
> Fran
>
>
>>
>> regards
>>   J. Eppler
>>
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Re: [qubes-users] Archlinux Community Template Qubes OS 3.2

[Franz]

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM, J. Eppler  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to thank the person who created and uploaded the
> qubes-template-archlinux 3.0.6 to the Qubes OS 3.2 rpm repo.
>
> Saved a lot of work.
>
> You can installed it with:
> sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
> qubes-template-archlinux
>
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A really nice Christmas present! Thanks

When I digit
 sudo pacman-key -populate archlinux
I get
pacman-key: invalid option -- 'p'

Best
Fran


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>   J. Eppler
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