Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes
27casanov...@gmail.com: Any links on this explaining it in depth and showing how to sett it up? I looked in to Qubes site but dident find it. You should be fine without doing any packet capture. As long as you install and use the whonix VM and leave most everything as default, you shouldn't have to worry much about leaks. It's quite a reliable setup, as long as you don't do anything unusual when installing/configuring. awokd is right in that your upstream will just see Tor traffic. Much like if you use a VPN, they will see VPN traffic. Tor traffic is designed to look (superficially) like generic HTTPS traffic. However, if someone knows what they're looking for, it's not hard to recognize Tor traffic based on its characteristics. If this is a problem for you, you can try using pluggable transports[1] and/or bridge nodes. The 'meek' transport, for example, makes Tor traffic look like regular traffic going to Google App Engine. Someone might be able to help you better on one of the Tor mailing lists: https://lists.torproject.org/ [1] https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/pluggable-transports.html.en - This free account was provided by VFEmail.net - report spam to ab...@vfemail.net ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7243ca94-3897-d64d-7109-973b6f5894dd%40vfemail.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes
27casanov...@gmail.com: > Any links on this explaining it in depth and showing how to sett it up? > > I looked in to Qubes site but dident find it. > Please cite the relevant portion(s) of the post to which you are replying. Packet capturing is not Qubes specific, so a standard Internet search should provide plenty of details on the technique. It's the best way to see and learn exactly what traffic is coming from your machine; more than anyone on a mailing list can tell you. It's also entirely optional- you can stick with my first answer of "Tor traffic" if you don't care about the details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b2e49974-2e5a-0e6f-1778-f426d6fbc542%40danwin1210.me. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes
Any links on this explaining it in depth and showing how to sett it up? I looked in to Qubes site but dident find it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b69fd288-3e34-4456-ab74-abe3cdf336a2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes
27casanov...@gmail.com: Thanks for youre reply. What dose this mean (not asking how its don at this point): "Best way to make sure is to set up your own packet capture off the wire." And what difference would it make? On mailing lists like this one, please include a portion of the text to which you are replying. Anyways, it means to set up a monitor or packet capture of your own traffic. That way you can learn exactly what it is doing. Doing it at the network level is best, but you could also do it in sys-net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7390130d-8489-2cf5-9c7f-010e5809accc%40danwin1210.me. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes
Thanks for youre reply. What dose this mean (not asking how its don at this point): "Best way to make sure is to set up your own packet capture off the wire." And what difference would it make? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bdc2ff54-6376-46f6-82c2-9bbfc5dd74e1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes
27casanov...@gmail.com: Hi, if some one uses Tor with whonix gateway on a publicnetwork and all the trafic on that Network was supervised. What would that users activity look like? Any traffic from VMs connected to Whonix gateway/sys-whonix would only appear as Tor traffic. Best way to make sure is to set up your own packet capture off the wire. I also get a mesage saying that "kernel module failed loading" (I might have misspelled that). What is that? Cosmetic error. Ignore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/26632456-723b-7f8a-7aae-b4b9f83007c9%40danwin1210.me. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 12:30:51 UTC+1, unman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote: > > Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security > > engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. > > > > My only issue is logging into my vpn service. > > > > I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to > > Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this > > is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my > > vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and > > emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy. > > > > My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which > > I found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine > > on my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download. > > > > Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, > > I am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. > > > > I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this > > on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked. > > > > Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Best, > > > > Wolf Moon > > > > Hi Wolf Man > > Welcome to Qubes. > > It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is: > "still no joy" doesn't mean anything. > > Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches. > Which one did you try? > How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes? > > Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are > trying to put in place. > Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I > mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post. > > The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to > help. > > cheers > > unman HI Unman check my detailed reply at the bottom. Thank you for the reply. Hope this helps us get further! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c11c8ef3-4065-4477-9c3a-811c451d900d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions
On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 12:30:47 +0100 unman wrote: >On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote: >> Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security >> engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. >> >> My only issue is logging into my vpn service. >> >> I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to >> Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this >> is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my >> vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and >> emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy. >> >> My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which I >> found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine on >> my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download. >> >> Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, I >> am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. >> >> I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this >> on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked. >> >> Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Best, >> >> Wolf Moon >> > >Hi Wolf Man > >Welcome to Qubes. > >It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is: >"still no joy" doesn't mean anything. > >Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches. >Which one did you try? >How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes? > >Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are >trying to put in place. >Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I >mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post. > >The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to >help. > >cheers > >unman > > I have two different VPN's I use for different purposes. I have a cisco provided VPN for a client which I connect to via openconnect from within a dedicated appVM, and I run an OpenVPN server on my home network and connect to it through the OpenVPN client when not at home from a clone of sys-net for the purpose. I switch which sys-net I run based on if I need to connect to home or not, or I simply don't run the OpenVPN client if I'm using the sys-net with the OpenVPN client but don't need to connect. There are quite a few different ways to skin this cat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20180916091900.5849eec1%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions
On 09/16/2018 07:30 AM, unman wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote: Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. My only issue is logging into my vpn service. I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy. My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which I found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine on my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download. Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, I am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. Best, Wolf Moon Hi Wolf Man Welcome to Qubes. It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is: "still no joy" doesn't mean anything. Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches. Which one did you try? How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes? Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are trying to put in place. Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post. The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to help. cheers unman Specifics are definitely needed for questions like this. The thing that usually confuses people about the current (old) Qubes doc is there is no button for "ProxyVM" on the R4.0 Create VM dialog. The way to do this in R4.0 is to click on "Provides network" instead. The newer (proposed) doc + qubes-tunnel as suggested by awokd are much easier to install and run more smoothly, BTW. https://github.com/tasket/qubes-doc/blob/tunnel/configuration/vpn.md -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3ee8ac9d-cd07-3514-c3db-3259f45ed19d%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote: > Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security engineering > ) all working fine and learning my way around it. > > My only issue is logging into my vpn service. > > I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to > Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this > is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my > vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and emailed > me back a step by step guide but still no joy. > > My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which I > found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine on > my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download. > > Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, I > am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. > > I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this > on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked. > > Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Best, > > Wolf Moon > Hi Wolf Man Welcome to Qubes. It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is: "still no joy" doesn't mean anything. Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches. Which one did you try? How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes? Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are trying to put in place. Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post. The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to help. cheers unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20180916113047.quyejy4ml6cugzvd%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions
On Sat, September 15, 2018 3:21 am, Wolf moon wrote: > Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security > engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. > > My only issue is logging into my vpn service. > > > I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different > to Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that > this is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also > contacted my vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes > instructions and emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy. > > My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( > which I found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and > works fine on my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you > download. > > Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore > techy, I am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line > in linux. See updated instructions here: https://github.com/tasket/qubes-doc/blob/tunnel/configuration/vpn.md, but note that qubes-tunnel (available from the same author at https://github.com/tasket/qubes-tunnel) has not yet been officially blessed by the Qubes team. > I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve > this on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I > checked. There are others on this mailing list besides the Qubes core team that can sometimes help, so ask away! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/318305744ffee704e1beeafecbaa313f.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
