Re: QWS List virtual instruments

[Seth Lowman]

I remember Proteus VX had a hiccup with my Windows 8 machine, something about 
initializing audio drivers, but when I ran it as administrator, it seemed to 
fix the issue. Since it appears there’s no run as administrator option in 
windows 10, I’m curious as to how you would resolve the issue for someone like 
Joe Who is running windows 10.

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX 
working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though 
I haven't use that machine much so far.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been 
using Midi yoke along side it.  Might have to check out the one you’re using if 
I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, 
that is highly doubtful.  At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 
machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times.  


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


   Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one you 
can try: 
   LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
   https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


   God bless! 
   Seth

   On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:
   
   
   This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's 
understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.
   If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about finding 
a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's sending your 
audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to connect with 
the Proteus.
   
   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: mai...@andrelouis.com   
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
   Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
   To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
   Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments
   
   I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all such 
deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just 
cancelled my order before it shipped out!!
   
   
   I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. 
   It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable but 
some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.
   
   
   If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I can't 
   run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for 
   that are working as they should.
   
   
   Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.
   
   
   I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it must 
   look like I'm a rank clutz!
   
   
   Joe G.
   
   
   On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
   
   

   No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if 
possible.
   

   You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface 
takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.
   

   
   

   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
   

   
   

   
   

   -Original Message-
   

   From: mai...@andrelouis.com   
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
   

   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 PM
   

   To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
   

   Subject: Re: QWS List 

Re: QWS List virtual instruments

[Seth Lowman]

I remember Proteus VX had a hiccup with my Windows 8 machine, something about 
initializing audio drivers, but when I ran it as administrator, it seemed to 
fix the issue. Since it appears there’s no run as administrator option in 
windows 10, I’m curious as to how you would resolve the issue for someone like 
Joe Who is running windows 10.

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX 
working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though 
I haven't use that machine much so far.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been 
using Midi yoke along side it.  Might have to check out the one you’re using if 
I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, 
that is highly doubtful.  At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 
machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times.  


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


   Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one you 
can try: 
   LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
   https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


   God bless! 
   Seth

   On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:
   
   
   This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's 
understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.
   If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about finding 
a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's sending your 
audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to connect with 
the Proteus.
   
   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: mai...@andrelouis.com   
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
   Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
   To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
   Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments
   
   I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all such 
deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just 
cancelled my order before it shipped out!!
   
   
   I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. 
   It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable but 
some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.
   
   
   If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I can't 
   run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for 
   that are working as they should.
   
   
   Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.
   
   
   I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it must 
   look like I'm a rank clutz!
   
   
   Joe G.
   
   
   On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
   
   

   No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if 
possible.
   

   You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface 
takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.
   

   
   

   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
   

   
   

   
   

   -Original Message-
   

   From: mai...@andrelouis.com   
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
   

   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 PM
   

   To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
   

   Subject: Re: QWS List 

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

Best to ask a list where folks have done it, as it's clear nobody here has 
worked it out or is watching the list who has.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:30 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I remember Proteus VX had a hiccup with my Windows 8 machine, something about 
initializing audio drivers, but when I ran it as administrator, it seemed to 
fix the issue. Since it appears there’s no run as administrator option in 
windows 10, I’m curious as to how you would resolve the issue for someone like 
Joe Who is running windows 10.

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX 
working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though 
I haven't use that machine much so far.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been 
using Midi yoke along side it.  Might have to check out the one you’re using if 
I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, 
that is highly doubtful.  At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 
machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times.  


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


   Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one you 
can try: 
   LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
   https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


   God bless! 
   Seth

   On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:
   
   
   This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's 
understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.
   If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about finding 
a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's sending your 
audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to connect with 
the Proteus.
   
   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: mai...@andrelouis.com   
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
   Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
   To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
   Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments
   
   I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all such 
deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just 
cancelled my order before it shipped out!!
   
   
   I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. 
   It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable but 
some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.
   
   
   If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I can't 
   run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for 
   that are working as they should.
   
   
   Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.
   
   
   I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it must 
   look like I'm a rank clutz!
   
   
   Joe G.
   
   
   On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
   
   

   No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if 
possible.
   

   You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface 
takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.
   

   
   

   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit 

Re: QWS List virtual instruments

[Richard Wells]

There certainly is a run as administrator in Windows 10. I will install

Proteus VX

and see if it works. I am sure it does though.

On 6/29/2021 10:29 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:

I remember Proteus VX had a hiccup with my Windows 8 machine, something about 
initializing audio drivers, but when I ran it as administrator, it seemed to 
fix the issue. Since it appears there’s no run as administrator option in 
windows 10, I’m curious as to how you would resolve the issue for someone like 
Joe Who is running windows 10.

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX 
working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though 
I haven't use that machine much so far.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been 
using Midi yoke along side it.  Might have to check out the one you’re using if 
I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, 
that is highly doubtful.  At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 
machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times.


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one you 
can try:
LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:


This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.

If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about finding 
a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's sending your 
audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to connect with 
the Proteus.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-

From: mai...@andrelouis.com   
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all such deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just cancelled my order before it shipped out!!


I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works.

It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable but 
some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.


If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I can't

run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for
that are working as they should.


Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.


I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it must

look like I'm a rank clutz!


Joe G.


On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:




No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if 
possible.



You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface 
takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.






Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter









-Original Message-



From: mai...@andrelouis.com