Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-11-02 Thread Mikael Jagan



A hack that seems to work is (whitespace added for readability):

\newcommand{\Seqn}{
  \ifelse{latex}{
\Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() < "4.2.2") "eqn{#1}" else 
"eqn{#2}"}

  }{
\ifelse{html}{
  \Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() < "4.2.0") "eqn{#1}" 
else "eqn{#2}"}

}{
  \Sexpr[results=rd]{"eqn{#2}"}
}
  }
}

as amsmath support for PDF output and KaTeX support for HTML output
were introduced in R 4.2.2 and 4.2.0, respectively.

Sadly I really do seem to need 8 escapes:

\Seqn{text{min}(m,n) times n}{min(m,n)-by-n}

Maybe one of the Rd experts here can suggest an improvement ...

Mikael

On 2023-11-01 5:06 am, Martin Maechler wrote:

Uwe Ligges
 on Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:26:23 +0100 writes:


 > On 01.11.2023 03:51, Mikael Jagan wrote:
 >> Thanks.  It seems that we were mistaken in our feeling (IIRC) that it 
would
 >> be "OK" to implicitly require '--no-manual' on versions of R from 3.5.0 
to
 >> 4.2.1, not changing our Depends.
 >>
 >> We will fix this in Matrix 1.6-2, probably by conditionalizing or 
otherwise
 >> replacing the amsmath commands and probably _not_ by changing to depend 
on
 >> R >= 4.2.2.  Martin may have more to say in "the morning".

I agree (*not* to raise Matrix pkg's R version dependency).

 > Note that dependin on R >= 4.2.2 does not work. We need dependencies of
 > the form R >= x.y.0. This is also part of the checks.

Yes, indeed.
And as we learned, R >= 4.2.0 would not help for r-oldrel-macos

I (am unhappy but) agree to take the responsibility for our
decision to go ahead and use much nicer LaTeX formula for
matrices etc, in our help pages {thinking that indeed people who'd
install Matrix on an old R version would always be able to read
Matrix manual pages via web search (as it seems to me 95% of
people do nowadays) ... or then have someone in their
organization to figure out how to use a newer amsmath (latex) package if
  they really really want the Matrix pdf manual offline}.

Martin

 > Reason is that we have only one binary repository for one R-x.y.?
 > series. On WIndows, where we check with R-4.2.3, a binary would be
 > created and hence R-4.2.[0-1] would not see any valid Matrix binaries.

 > So please either make this work on R >= 4.2.0 or require R >= 4.3.0. If
 > the latter, ideally with an interim version that works for R >= 4.2.0,
 > so that we valid binaries with correct dependency declarations again.

 > Best,
 > Uwe

 >> In the mean time (i.e., while we are stuck with Matrix 1.6-1.1), it may
 >> help
 >> to update to R 4.2.3 on r-oldrel-macos-* and/or to have EdSurvey revert 
its
 >> strict version requirement, unless there are clear examples justifying 
one.
 >>
 >> Mikael
 >>
 >>
 >> On 2023-10-31 8:17 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
 >>> Mikael,
 >>>
 >>> in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >=
 >>> 3.5.0 which is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be
 >>> 4.2.2?. I can certainly update to 4.2.3 if necessary.
 >>>
 >>> Cheers,
 >>> Simon
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
  On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
 
  Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 
1.6-0)
  of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R
  4.2.2,
  but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R
  4.2.0.
  My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2
  well
  before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.
 
  I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
  only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
  for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...
 
  Mikael
 
  On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
 > Mikael,
 > current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last
 > working version is installed:
 > https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html
 > Cheers,
 > Simon

On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:

 >>

I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:

 >>

     https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html

 >>

Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.

 >>

AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo
handling
of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).

 >>

So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1. 

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-11-02 Thread Mikael Jagan





On 2023-11-01 12:59 pm, Mikael Jagan wrote:

A hack that seems to work is (whitespace added for readability):

  \newcommand{\Seqn}{
\ifelse{latex}{
  \Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() < "4.2.2") "eqn{#1}" else
"eqn{#2}"}
}{
  \ifelse{html}{
\Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() < "4.2.0") "eqn{#1}"
else "eqn{#2}"}
  }{
\Sexpr[results=rd]{"eqn{#2}"}
  }
}
  }


Er, the above is wrong, because '<' should be '>=' and because '#2' (which
is conceptually verbatim text) should use \verb{} for PDF and HTML output,
not \eqn{}.  For Matrix 1.6-2 I have created man/macros/local.Rd and added:

\newcommand{\Seqn}{\ifelse{latex}{\Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() >= 
"4.2.2") "eqn{#1}" else 
"verb{#2}"}}{\ifelse{html}{\Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() >= 
"4.2.0") "eqn{#1}" else 
"verb{#2}"}}{\Sexpr[results=rd]{"eqn{#2}"


\newcommand{\Sdeqn}{\ifelse{latex}{\Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() >= 
"4.2.2") "deqn{#1}" else 
"preformatted{#2}"}}{\ifelse{html}{\Sexpr[results=rd]{if (getRversion() 
>= "4.2.0") "deqn{#1}" else 
"preformatted{#2}"}}{\Sexpr[results=rd]{"deqn{#2}"


Now Matrix 1.6-2 passes its Rd checks under my checkout of R-3-5-branch.
Some examples and tests fail for unrelated reasons.  I'll fix those, too ...

Mikael



as amsmath support for PDF output and KaTeX support for HTML output
were introduced in R 4.2.2 and 4.2.0, respectively.

Sadly I really do seem to need 8 escapes:

  \Seqn{text{min}(m,n) times n}{min(m,n)-by-n}

Maybe one of the Rd experts here can suggest an improvement ...

Mikael

On 2023-11-01 5:06 am, Martin Maechler wrote:

Uwe Ligges
  on Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:26:23 +0100 writes:


  > On 01.11.2023 03:51, Mikael Jagan wrote:
  >> Thanks.  It seems that we were mistaken in our feeling (IIRC) that it 
would
  >> be "OK" to implicitly require '--no-manual' on versions of R from 
3.5.0 to
  >> 4.2.1, not changing our Depends.
  >>
  >> We will fix this in Matrix 1.6-2, probably by conditionalizing or 
otherwise
  >> replacing the amsmath commands and probably _not_ by changing to 
depend on
  >> R >= 4.2.2.  Martin may have more to say in "the morning".

I agree (*not* to raise Matrix pkg's R version dependency).

  > Note that dependin on R >= 4.2.2 does not work. We need dependencies of
  > the form R >= x.y.0. This is also part of the checks.

Yes, indeed.
And as we learned, R >= 4.2.0 would not help for r-oldrel-macos

I (am unhappy but) agree to take the responsibility for our
decision to go ahead and use much nicer LaTeX formula for
matrices etc, in our help pages {thinking that indeed people who'd
install Matrix on an old R version would always be able to read
Matrix manual pages via web search (as it seems to me 95% of
people do nowadays) ... or then have someone in their
organization to figure out how to use a newer amsmath (latex) package if
   they really really want the Matrix pdf manual offline}.

Martin

  > Reason is that we have only one binary repository for one R-x.y.?
  > series. On WIndows, where we check with R-4.2.3, a binary would be
  > created and hence R-4.2.[0-1] would not see any valid Matrix binaries.

  > So please either make this work on R >= 4.2.0 or require R >= 4.3.0. If
  > the latter, ideally with an interim version that works for R >= 4.2.0,
  > so that we valid binaries with correct dependency declarations again.

  > Best,
  > Uwe

  >> In the mean time (i.e., while we are stuck with Matrix 1.6-1.1), it may
  >> help
  >> to update to R 4.2.3 on r-oldrel-macos-* and/or to have EdSurvey 
revert its
  >> strict version requirement, unless there are clear examples justifying 
one.
  >>
  >> Mikael
  >>
  >>
  >> On 2023-10-31 8:17 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
  >>> Mikael,
  >>>
  >>> in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >=
  >>> 3.5.0 which is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be
  >>> 4.2.2?. I can certainly update to 4.2.3 if necessary.
  >>>
  >>> Cheers,
  >>> Simon
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
   On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
  
   Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 
1.6-0)
   of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R
   4.2.2,
   but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R
   4.2.0.
   My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2
   well
   before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.
  
   I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R 
versions
   only to support PDF

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-11-01 Thread Martin Maechler
> Uwe Ligges 
> on Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:26:23 +0100 writes:

> On 01.11.2023 03:51, Mikael Jagan wrote:
>> Thanks.  It seems that we were mistaken in our feeling (IIRC) that it 
would
>> be "OK" to implicitly require '--no-manual' on versions of R from 3.5.0 
to
>> 4.2.1, not changing our Depends.
>> 
>> We will fix this in Matrix 1.6-2, probably by conditionalizing or 
otherwise
>> replacing the amsmath commands and probably _not_ by changing to depend 
on
>> R >= 4.2.2.  Martin may have more to say in "the morning".

I agree (*not* to raise Matrix pkg's R version dependency).

> Note that dependin on R >= 4.2.2 does not work. We need dependencies of 
> the form R >= x.y.0. This is also part of the checks.

Yes, indeed.
And as we learned, R >= 4.2.0 would not help for r-oldrel-macos

I (am unhappy but) agree to take the responsibility for our
decision to go ahead and use much nicer LaTeX formula for
matrices etc, in our help pages {thinking that indeed people who'd
install Matrix on an old R version would always be able to read
Matrix manual pages via web search (as it seems to me 95% of
people do nowadays) ... or then have someone in their
organization to figure out how to use a newer amsmath (latex) package if
 they really really want the Matrix pdf manual offline}.

Martin

> Reason is that we have only one binary repository for one R-x.y.? 
> series. On WIndows, where we check with R-4.2.3, a binary would be 
> created and hence R-4.2.[0-1] would not see any valid Matrix binaries.

> So please either make this work on R >= 4.2.0 or require R >= 4.3.0. If 
> the latter, ideally with an interim version that works for R >= 4.2.0, 
> so that we valid binaries with correct dependency declarations again.

> Best,
> Uwe

>> In the mean time (i.e., while we are stuck with Matrix 1.6-1.1), it may 
>> help
>> to update to R 4.2.3 on r-oldrel-macos-* and/or to have EdSurvey revert 
its
>> strict version requirement, unless there are clear examples justifying 
one.
>> 
>> Mikael
>> 
>> 
>> On 2023-10-31 8:17 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>> Mikael,
>>> 
>>> in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >= 
>>> 3.5.0 which is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be 
>>> 4.2.2?. I can certainly update to 4.2.3 if necessary.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
 
 Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 
1.6-0)
 of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R 
 4.2.2,
 but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R 
 4.2.0.
 My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2 
 well
 before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.
 
 I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
 only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
 for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...
 
 Mikael
 
 On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
> Mikael,
> current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last 
> working version is installed:
> https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html
> Cheers,
> Simon
> On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
>> 
> I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:
>> 
>     https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html
>> 
> Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
> even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.
>> 
> AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
> even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo 
> handling
> of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).
>> 
> So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
> might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
> preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did 
> not
> reveal problems with EdSurvey.
>> 
> Mikael
>> 
> On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:
>>> Paul,
>>> can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and 
>>> where you got the errors? Older builds may not have the latest 
>>> Matrix.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
 On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
 R-package-devel  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which 

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-31 Thread Uwe Ligges




On 01.11.2023 03:51, Mikael Jagan wrote:

Thanks.  It seems that we were mistaken in our feeling (IIRC) that it would
be "OK" to implicitly require '--no-manual' on versions of R from 3.5.0 to
4.2.1, not changing our Depends.

We will fix this in Matrix 1.6-2, probably by conditionalizing or otherwise
replacing the amsmath commands and probably _not_ by changing to depend on
R >= 4.2.2.  Martin may have more to say in "the morning".


Note that dependin on R >= 4.2.2 does not work. We need dependencies of 
the form R >= x.y.0. This is also part of the checks.


Reason is that we have only one binary repository for one R-x.y.? 
series. On WIndows, where we check with R-4.2.3, a binary would be 
created and hence R-4.2.[0-1] would not see any valid Matrix binaries.


So please either make this work on R >= 4.2.0 or require R >= 4.3.0. If 
the latter, ideally with an interim version that works for R >= 4.2.0, 
so that we valid binaries with correct dependency declarations again.


Best,
Uwe

In the mean time (i.e., while we are stuck with Matrix 1.6-1.1), it may 
help

to update to R 4.2.3 on r-oldrel-macos-* and/or to have EdSurvey revert its
strict version requirement, unless there are clear examples justifying one.

Mikael


On 2023-10-31 8:17 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:

Mikael,

in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >= 
3.5.0 which is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be 
4.2.2?. I can certainly update to 4.2.3 if necessary.


Cheers,
Simon




On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:

Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 1.6-0)
of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R 
4.2.2,
but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R 
4.2.0.
My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2 
well

before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.

I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:

Mikael,
current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last 
working version is installed:

https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html
Cheers,
Simon

On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:

I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:

    https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html

Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.

AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo 
handling

of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).

So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did 
not

reveal problems with EdSurvey.

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:

Paul,
can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and 
where you got the errors? Older builds may not have the latest 
Matrix.

Cheers,
Simon
On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
R-package-devel  wrote:


Hi,

I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently 
failing CRAN checks on Mac OS because Matrix is not available in 
my required version (the latest). I had to fix a few things due 
to changes in the latest Matrix package because of how qr works 
and I thought, given the apparent API change, I should then 
require the latest version. My error is, "Package required and 
available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"


When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS 
issues, what the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a 
fix is expected. What version do MacOS version test Matrix with 
by default? Where is this documented? I assumes it always tested 
with the latest version on CRAN, so I'm a bit surprised. Or will 
this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother CRAN maintainers 
with a new version of my package?


Best,
Paul

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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-31 Thread Mikael Jagan

Thanks.  It seems that we were mistaken in our feeling (IIRC) that it would
be "OK" to implicitly require '--no-manual' on versions of R from 3.5.0 to
4.2.1, not changing our Depends.

We will fix this in Matrix 1.6-2, probably by conditionalizing or otherwise
replacing the amsmath commands and probably _not_ by changing to depend on
R >= 4.2.2.  Martin may have more to say in "the morning".

In the mean time (i.e., while we are stuck with Matrix 1.6-1.1), it may help
to update to R 4.2.3 on r-oldrel-macos-* and/or to have EdSurvey revert its
strict version requirement, unless there are clear examples justifying one.

Mikael


On 2023-10-31 8:17 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:

Mikael,

in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >= 3.5.0 which 
is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be 4.2.2?. I can certainly 
update to 4.2.3 if necessary.

Cheers,
Simon




On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:

Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 1.6-0)
of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R 4.2.2,
but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R 4.2.0.
My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2 well
before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.

I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:

Mikael,
current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last working 
version is installed:
https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html
Cheers,
Simon

On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:

I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:

https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html

Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.

AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo handling
of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).

So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did not
reveal problems with EdSurvey.

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:

Paul,
can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and where you got 
the errors? Older builds may not have the latest Matrix.
Cheers,
Simon

On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
R-package-devel  wrote:

Hi,

I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing CRAN checks on 
Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required version (the latest). I had to fix 
a few things due to changes in the latest Matrix package because of how qr works and I 
thought, given the apparent API change, I should then require the latest version. My 
error is, "Package required and available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"

When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, what 
the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. What 
version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this documented? 
I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, so I'm a bit 
surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother CRAN 
maintainers with a new version of my package?

Best,
Paul

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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-31 Thread Simon Urbanek
Mikael,

in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >= 3.5.0 which 
is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be 4.2.2?. I can 
certainly update to 4.2.3 if necessary.

Cheers,
Simon



> On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 1.6-0)
> of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R 4.2.2,
> but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R 4.2.0.
> My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2 well
> before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.
> 
> I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
> only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
> for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...
> 
> Mikael
> 
> On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>> Mikael,
>> current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last working 
>> version is installed:
>> https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>> On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:
>>> 
>>>https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html
>>> 
>>> Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
>>> even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.
>>> 
>>> AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
>>> even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo handling
>>> of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).
>>> 
>>> So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
>>> might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
>>> preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did not
>>> reveal problems with EdSurvey.
>>> 
>>> Mikael
>>> 
>>> On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:
 Paul,
 can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and where 
 you got the errors? Older builds may not have the latest Matrix.
 Cheers,
 Simon
> On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
> R-package-devel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing 
> CRAN checks on Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required 
> version (the latest). I had to fix a few things due to changes in the 
> latest Matrix package because of how qr works and I thought, given the 
> apparent API change, I should then require the latest version. My error 
> is, "Package required and available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"
> 
> When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, 
> what the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. 
> What version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this 
> documented? I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, 
> so I'm a bit surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't 
> bother CRAN maintainers with a new version of my package?
> 
> Best,
> Paul
> 
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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-31 Thread Mikael Jagan

Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 1.6-0)
of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R 4.2.2,
but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R 4.2.0.
My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2 well
before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.

I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:

Mikael,

current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last working 
version is installed:
https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html

Cheers,
Simon




On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:

I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:

https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html

Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.

AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo handling
of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).

So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did not
reveal problems with EdSurvey.

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:

Paul,
can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and where you got 
the errors? Older builds may not have the latest Matrix.
Cheers,
Simon

On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
R-package-devel  wrote:

Hi,

I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing CRAN checks on 
Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required version (the latest). I had to fix 
a few things due to changes in the latest Matrix package because of how qr works and I 
thought, given the apparent API change, I should then require the latest version. My 
error is, "Package required and available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"

When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, what 
the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. What 
version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this documented? 
I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, so I'm a bit 
surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother CRAN 
maintainers with a new version of my package?

Best,
Paul

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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-31 Thread Simon Urbanek
Mikael,

current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last working 
version is installed:
https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html

Cheers,
Simon



> On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan  wrote:
> 
> I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:
> 
>https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html
> 
> Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
> even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.
> 
> AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
> even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo handling
> of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).
> 
> So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
> might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
> preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did not
> reveal problems with EdSurvey.
> 
> Mikael
> 
> On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:
>> Paul,
>> can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and where you 
>> got the errors? Older builds may not have the latest Matrix.
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>> On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
>>> R-package-devel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing 
>>> CRAN checks on Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required 
>>> version (the latest). I had to fix a few things due to changes in the 
>>> latest Matrix package because of how qr works and I thought, given the 
>>> apparent API change, I should then require the latest version. My error is, 
>>> "Package required and available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"
>>> 
>>> When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, 
>>> what the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. 
>>> What version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this 
>>> documented? I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, so 
>>> I'm a bit surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother 
>>> CRAN maintainers with a new version of my package?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Paul
>>> 
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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-31 Thread Mikael Jagan

Re-sending to the list with correct subject line ...

I should undigest myself ...

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 11:05 am, Mikael Jagan wrote:

I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:

  https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html

Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.

AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo handling
of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).

So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did not
reveal problems with EdSurvey.

Mikael

On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-requ...@r-project.org wrote:

Paul,

can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and where you got 
the errors? Older builds may not have the latest Matrix.

Cheers,
Simon



On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
R-package-devel  wrote:

Hi,

I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing CRAN checks on 
Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required version (the latest). I had to fix 
a few things due to changes in the latest Matrix package because of how qr works and I 
thought, given the apparent API change, I should then require the latest version. My 
error is, "Package required and available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"

When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, what 
the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. What 
version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this documented? 
I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, so I'm a bit 
surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother CRAN 
maintainers with a new version of my package?

Best,
Paul

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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-30 Thread Simon Urbanek
Paul,

can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and where you got 
the errors? Older builds may not have the latest Matrix.

Cheers,
Simon


> On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via R-package-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing CRAN 
> checks on Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required version (the 
> latest). I had to fix a few things due to changes in the latest Matrix 
> package because of how qr works and I thought, given the apparent API change, 
> I should then require the latest version. My error is, "Package required and 
> available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"
> 
> When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, what 
> the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. What 
> version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this 
> documented? I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, so 
> I'm a bit surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother 
> CRAN maintainers with a new version of my package?
> 
> Best,
> Paul
> 
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[R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

2023-10-30 Thread Bailey, Paul via R-package-devel
Hi,

I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently failing CRAN 
checks on Mac OS because Matrix is not available in my required version (the 
latest). I had to fix a few things due to changes in the latest Matrix package 
because of how qr works and I thought, given the apparent API change, I should 
then require the latest version. My error is, "Package required and available 
but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"

When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS issues, what 
the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a fix is expected. What 
version do MacOS version test Matrix with by default? Where is this documented? 
I assumes it always tested with the latest version on CRAN, so I'm a bit 
surprised. Or will this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother CRAN 
maintainers with a new version of my package?

Best,
Paul

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