Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is it right for kids?

2012-02-12 Thread chill

JJZolx;690245 Wrote: 
 For audio books, also not great, since it doesn't remember your place in
 the book/chapter unless you pause and resume. A CD player is no better,
 though.

There is the Bookmarks plugin, which ought to be able to help with
this, but I'm struggling to find out how to use it.  I've got it
installed and active, but there are no 'settings', and I can't find out
how to invoke it for a particular track.  This seems to suggest it might
be automatic (eg. it remembers the position for the last ten tracks
played), but I've just checked to see if some of my recently played
tracks resume at the same point, and they don't.  Anyone know how this
plugin is supposed to work?  Does it not like my full CD FLAC files
perhaps?


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[SlimDevices: Radio] General Music Library question

2012-02-12 Thread okvaal

Hi.
I've been using a plain Squeezebox for a few years, and yesterday I
added a Squeezebox Radio. At the same time, I reloaded my music library
and playlist paths in media server. As a result (?), no music will
appear under the artist, album, genre, playlist folders etc. I am using
JRiver Media Center as my library/organizing tool, but my music is
stored on an EHD (Western Digital MyBook). However, a workaround seems
to be adding folders under the Library/Media Source/Media Foldes
option. This will make the individual folders I am adding, appear under
the Music Folders on my players. Still, no access to playlists etc. 
Is this due to storing my library on an external HD? It seems that my
radio (at least) is set to find music on my C:\ catalogue. 

Any help would be much appreciated. In tea-spoon mode, please. I'm not
at all any technically advanced.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New squeezebox and missing tunein channels

2012-02-12 Thread wjw

@castalla

Perfect, worked great! I now have 2 presets from Cobourg, where we stay
in the summer, and 3 locals that we listen to here in Ottawa. I'm still
trying to figure out the LMS vs mysb setup for getting the remote for
wife's iPod. I'm using the LMS for her playlists from iTunes (I have a
crud load of country saved on my server downstairs) but I can only
control the SBR by manually going back to mysb.com ... Trying to make
it wife proof. :-)

JW


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New squeezebox and missing tunein channels

2012-02-12 Thread castalla

Glad it worked!

Sorry can't help with remote issues ... try a new post?


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread phred

This hasn't happened to me (yet) but I'm kept awake at night worrying
about it.  Perhaps it's happened to someone else and they can put my
mind at ease.

I'm running a Radio connected to LMS on a Windows box.  I count on the
Radio's alarm for my morning wake up in order to get to work somewhat
on time.  IOW, it's a clock radio.  Some days it's set to the stream of
a local radio station, while other days it's set to play some of my
music tracks (stored on another computer in the house - not the one
where LMS lives.)

If the LMS computer goes down during the night, I know the alarm will
still be triggered, but would it be able to connect to the streaming
station and/or my music?

I suppose I can stop LMS temporarily and set an alarm for a few minutes
from now, and see what happens, but I thought I'd ask the experienced
ones first.

Thanks for your insight.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread castalla

Or buy a cheap alarm CLOCK!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread Mnyb

Your own music is 100% out it sits inside a dead computer .

Radio stream is probably also out as alarm is initiated by the server
.

This gives you the *backup alarm !* which is looped piece of music
residing on the unit itself funky disco of some kind :)
This works for one alarm radio needs to see the server who has the
alarm schedule at least once a day, backup alarm is good for the next
alarm .

If you want to be paranoid consider a radio stream that is silent, your
favorite station may stream silence ;)

Configure your cell phone to sound an alarm 10 minutes after the radio


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread bluegaspode

Search YouTube for Fa Fa Fa, this will be the song that wakes you up
when the server is down. (and the server is not down due to a power
outage)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread Mnyb

bluegaspode;690321 Wrote: 
 Search YouTube for Fa Fa Fa, this will be the song that wakes you up
 when the server is down. (and the server is not down due to a power
 outage)

I have the battery,if the big asteroid hits us tonight, tomorrow I can
crawl in the ruble listening to fa fa fa :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread phred

Thanks for the link to Fa Fa Fa.  That'll certainly wake me up.

@Mnyb - my music is on a different computer than where LMS lives.  That
would mean I -will- hear those alarms, yes?  It would only be the radio
streams that fail, correct?

And yes, I was speaking of a situation where I did not lose power in
the house, but for whatever reason, the LMS computer failed.  Power
supply dies, NIC fails, gets turned off by mistake, etc.  So my
router/cable modem would still be working. Therefore the Radio would be
able to see the internet.  Is the issue that LMS triggers the alarm, and
not the actual Radio device? 

Does mysqueezebox.com come into play at all in this type of situation? 
The Radio shows an IP address for it.

Thanks everyone for the pointers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread Mnyb

phred;690340 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the link to Fa Fa Fa.  That'll certainly wake me up.
 
 @Mnyb - my music is on a different computer than where LMS lives.  That
 would mean I -will- hear those alarms, yes?  It would only be the radio
 streams that fail, correct?
 
 And yes, I was speaking of a situation where I did not lose power in
 the house, but for whatever reason, the LMS computer failed.  Power
 supply dies, NIC fails, gets turned off by mistake, etc.  So my
 router/cable modem would still be working. Therefore the Radio would be
 able to see the internet.  Is the issue that LMS triggers the alarm, and
 not the actual Radio device? 
 
 Does mysqueezebox.com come into play at all in this type of situation? 
 The Radio shows an IP address for it.
 
 Thanks everyone for the pointers.

mysqueezebox.com is just another server so the server that has the
alarm scheduled triggers it, not the player , this is a leftover from
the old players that where very slim, dumb as bricks practically the
server did everything for them .

You offer yet another scenario the server machine works but it cant
find the music storage , radio stream configured from the server will
work if internet works .
But if LMS don't find the tunes in the alarm playlist ?

What then ? on my boom I've heard a backup noise from the server itself
, the server might have another backup tone in reserve .
(sb Boom has a moronic 3 tone noise as local backup btw )

Well try and see what happening :) and report back to us .

Btw if LMS lose connection to music storage while running it will very
likely drop the whole dB and require a rescan afterward, same thing
happens if you start LMS before storage is conected.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread phred

I've tried a few scenarios and all of them had the same result:
- alarm set to play radio stream with LMS not available
- alarm set to play music track/playlist with LMS not available
- alarm set to play music track/playlist with music not available

The default backup alarm (Fa Fa Fa) plays in every instance.

However, I noticed two things with this.  It look a little while for
the backup alarm to launch. Under normal circumstances the alarm is
heard when the minute flips over.  With the backup, it took about 20-30
seconds for it to come on.  

More interesting (to me anyway) was the fact that the backup sound came
from the Radio's speaker.  I have a pair of powered computer speakers
plugged into the headphone jack so I can have stereo music.  But when
Fa Fa Fa played, it was from the device itself.  Which lead me to a
final test scenario:
- alarm set to play, speakers plugged in the headphone jack, power to
the speakers turned off, LMS available.

Amazingly, the stream came from the Radio's speakers.  At this point, I
turned off the alarm (at the Radio,) turned on the powered speakers, and
turned on the radio.  And the sound came from the powered speakers.

At least I'll sleep better tonight knowing that if the box where LMS
lives crashes, something will still wake me up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread bluegaspode

Hi phred, 

this is all expected behaviour.

- when your server is off, noone can tell the Radio what stream to play
(the Radio only remembers the time of the very next alarm itself). So it
will always play the Fa Fa Fa sound when there is no server.
- the fallback alarm has a little delay. The Radio hopes all the time,
that the server maybe is just a little bit slow with providing the
necessary information about the alarm (i.e. what stream to play).
- The Radio does not expect that you have speakers on the headphones
out.
It always expects headphones - and assumes that with high probability
noone has headphones on in the morning. That's why alarms always come
through the speakers.

One final thing to note about the backup alarm: you should always
configure the alarm via the Radio itself. If you are using the
web-interface (or a remote on your phone or tablet) to change the alarm
time then in the worst case your Radio is not really connected to the
server (and thus never gets notified about the new alarm time). Then
the fallback alarm also is not configured at the right time.
If you configure the alarm directly on the Radio then you realize if it
still has a connection to your server.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is it right for kids?

2012-02-12 Thread wonder boy

My 10 year old daughter loves using the squeeze system, she mostly picks
what to listen to via the web interface on one of our PCs and knows to
choose the player closest to where she is listening of our 5 players.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation

2012-02-12 Thread phred

bluegaspode;690376 Wrote: 
 
 One final thing to note about the backup alarm: you should always
 configure the alarm via the Radio itself. If you are using the
 web-interface (or a remote on your phone or tablet) to change the alarm
 time then in the worst case your Radio is not really connected to the
 server (and thus never gets notified about the new alarm time). Then
 the fallback alarm also is not configured at the right time.
 If you configure the alarm directly on the Radio then you realize if it
 still has a connection to your server.

Thanks bluegaspode, that final note is more great info.  Spinning the
large knob on the Radio is somewhat unwieldy - moreso for alpha than
numeric - but I have been using the web interface to set the alarms. 
I've now reset them at the device itself.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is it right for kids?

2012-02-12 Thread ChrisNY

My 10 year old daughter has a Radio in her room and uses it nearly every
day.  As others have mentioned, she's grown up around Squeezeboxen so
she's fairly familiar with the process.  I have a separate folder in
Favorites for her which I work with her to keep up to date as her
tastes/interests change.  It's interesting (and sometimes a bit sad) to
watch the progression of items coming onto/off of the Favorites.  Some
items are evergreen, others fleeting.  She enjoys Pandora more than
Rhapsody due to the instant variety it offers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is it right for kids?

2012-02-12 Thread Henry66

My 13-year old son has a Radio. He loves it. My music library consists
95% of stuff that he is not interested in, so he uses the Radio mostly
for stations that play his kind of music. I think he discovers a lot of
music this way. He has it on constantly when he playing games on his
PC.

He also listens to RadioLab and Car Talk on some NPR station every
weekend, and uses the alarm function randomly.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is it right for kids?

2012-02-12 Thread jean2

Rickenbacker;690239 Wrote: 
 I've got an 8 and a 13-year old, and I'm considering getting them each a
 Squeezebox Radio.
 Regards,

In my experience, the only barrier is the ability to read simple words.
After that, the SqueezeBox are perfect for kids.

My older son was interested very early on, but could not do it, he was
able to use the SB Touch at 5.5 year old, the SB Radio at 6 year old,
and now at 7.5 year old he has a SB Touch with crappy computer speakers
in his bedroom and can set alarms and use the remote control. My younger
one at 4.5 year old is not interested yet, but I'll get him started
soon.

The SB Radio is sligtly more difficult to use than the SB Touch for
kids, the rotary dial and the smaller screen are less intuitive, but my
son can do it now trivially. I got him a Touch because of that and also
because it's more fun with the various visualisation, he like the
spectrum analyser a lot. With the SB Touch, I can also upgrade him to
real speakers later on, I don't think the SB Radio speaker will cut it
for a teenager. It was a big gift, but it's his most used gift, he
wakes up to Lady Gaga every day and plays it many times (please,
please, can't he play something else for a change). Forget about
audiobooks, he hardly liten to them. He is using his SB Touch way more
than me...

Now, the main issue is : who is going to manage the music. From
experience and talking to my friend, it's the crucial part, as they
won't be able to do it themselves, well maybe your 13 year old could do
it . That's also why I got him the SB Touch, so that I don't have to
manage two databases and two tagging strategies. But, some of my
friends prefer a clean separation of their music and their kid's music.
I'm quite rigourous in my tagging, which definitely helps the
navigation, at youg age the navigation needs to be somewhat simple.

Note that before the SB Touch, Mom showed him how to play CDs, which
ended up with scratched, lost and stuck CDs (I had to dissasemble the
hi-fi to remove stuck CDs). The SB Touch is so much better, as there no
mechanical parts, so little than can go wrong with messy kids.

Have fun...

Jean


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] For how long does Logitech guarantee to maintain mysqueezebox.com

2012-02-12 Thread Michael Herger
 Because Logitech wants the users registered to make service requests
 easier, this way they know a lot about your configuration.

You would shake your head did you know how stupid the real reason was...  
It has nothing to do with marketing, engineering etc.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] For how long does Logitech guarantee to maintain mysqueezebox.com

2012-02-12 Thread Mnyb

mherger;690409 Wrote: 
  Because Logitech wants the users registered to make service requests
  easier, this way they know a lot about your configuration.
 
 You would shake your head did you know how stupid the real reason
 was...  
 It has nothing to do with marketing, engineering etc.
 
 -- 
 
 Michael

ok ;) send me pm if you find me to content and happy and in need of
mood change.

Can imagine the operational budget is based on registered users.
Or that some services stipulate  contractually that you should expose
the user to choices at mysb.com .
More potential users mean leverage when dealing with service providers
?

It is also a nifty way to distribute the upgrades (but thats a good
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