[SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
This hasn't happened to me (yet) but I'm kept awake at night worrying about it. Perhaps it's happened to someone else and they can put my mind at ease. I'm running a Radio connected to LMS on a Windows box. I count on the Radio's alarm for my morning wake up in order to get to work somewhat on time. IOW, it's a clock radio. Some days it's set to the stream of a local radio station, while other days it's set to play some of my music tracks (stored on another computer in the house - not the one where LMS lives.) If the LMS computer goes down during the night, I know the alarm will still be triggered, but would it be able to connect to the streaming station and/or my music? I suppose I can stop LMS temporarily and set an alarm for a few minutes from now, and see what happens, but I thought I'd ask the experienced ones first. Thanks for your insight. -- phred phred's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
Or buy a cheap alarm CLOCK! -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purfek! 1 Logitech Radio + remote - purfek! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
Your own music is 100% out it sits inside a dead computer . Radio stream is probably also out as alarm is initiated by the server . This gives you the *backup alarm !* which is looped piece of music residing on the unit itself funky disco of some kind :) This works for one alarm radio needs to see the server who has the alarm schedule at least once a day, backup alarm is good for the next alarm . If you want to be paranoid consider a radio stream that is silent, your favorite station may stream silence ;) Configure your cell phone to sound an alarm 10 minutes after the radio -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
Search YouTube for Fa Fa Fa, this will be the song that wakes you up when the server is down. (and the server is not down due to a power outage) -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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bluegaspode;690321 Wrote: Search YouTube for Fa Fa Fa, this will be the song that wakes you up when the server is down. (and the server is not down due to a power outage) I have the battery,if the big asteroid hits us tonight, tomorrow I can crawl in the ruble listening to fa fa fa :) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
Thanks for the link to Fa Fa Fa. That'll certainly wake me up. @Mnyb - my music is on a different computer than where LMS lives. That would mean I -will- hear those alarms, yes? It would only be the radio streams that fail, correct? And yes, I was speaking of a situation where I did not lose power in the house, but for whatever reason, the LMS computer failed. Power supply dies, NIC fails, gets turned off by mistake, etc. So my router/cable modem would still be working. Therefore the Radio would be able to see the internet. Is the issue that LMS triggers the alarm, and not the actual Radio device? Does mysqueezebox.com come into play at all in this type of situation? The Radio shows an IP address for it. Thanks everyone for the pointers. -- phred phred's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
phred;690340 Wrote: Thanks for the link to Fa Fa Fa. That'll certainly wake me up. @Mnyb - my music is on a different computer than where LMS lives. That would mean I -will- hear those alarms, yes? It would only be the radio streams that fail, correct? And yes, I was speaking of a situation where I did not lose power in the house, but for whatever reason, the LMS computer failed. Power supply dies, NIC fails, gets turned off by mistake, etc. So my router/cable modem would still be working. Therefore the Radio would be able to see the internet. Is the issue that LMS triggers the alarm, and not the actual Radio device? Does mysqueezebox.com come into play at all in this type of situation? The Radio shows an IP address for it. Thanks everyone for the pointers. mysqueezebox.com is just another server so the server that has the alarm scheduled triggers it, not the player , this is a leftover from the old players that where very slim, dumb as bricks practically the server did everything for them . You offer yet another scenario the server machine works but it cant find the music storage , radio stream configured from the server will work if internet works . But if LMS don't find the tunes in the alarm playlist ? What then ? on my boom I've heard a backup noise from the server itself , the server might have another backup tone in reserve . (sb Boom has a moronic 3 tone noise as local backup btw ) Well try and see what happening :) and report back to us . Btw if LMS lose connection to music storage while running it will very likely drop the whole dB and require a rescan afterward, same thing happens if you start LMS before storage is conected. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
I've tried a few scenarios and all of them had the same result: - alarm set to play radio stream with LMS not available - alarm set to play music track/playlist with LMS not available - alarm set to play music track/playlist with music not available The default backup alarm (Fa Fa Fa) plays in every instance. However, I noticed two things with this. It look a little while for the backup alarm to launch. Under normal circumstances the alarm is heard when the minute flips over. With the backup, it took about 20-30 seconds for it to come on. More interesting (to me anyway) was the fact that the backup sound came from the Radio's speaker. I have a pair of powered computer speakers plugged into the headphone jack so I can have stereo music. But when Fa Fa Fa played, it was from the device itself. Which lead me to a final test scenario: - alarm set to play, speakers plugged in the headphone jack, power to the speakers turned off, LMS available. Amazingly, the stream came from the Radio's speakers. At this point, I turned off the alarm (at the Radio,) turned on the powered speakers, and turned on the radio. And the sound came from the powered speakers. At least I'll sleep better tonight knowing that if the box where LMS lives crashes, something will still wake me up. -- phred phred's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
Hi phred, this is all expected behaviour. - when your server is off, noone can tell the Radio what stream to play (the Radio only remembers the time of the very next alarm itself). So it will always play the Fa Fa Fa sound when there is no server. - the fallback alarm has a little delay. The Radio hopes all the time, that the server maybe is just a little bit slow with providing the necessary information about the alarm (i.e. what stream to play). - The Radio does not expect that you have speakers on the headphones out. It always expects headphones - and assumes that with high probability noone has headphones on in the morning. That's why alarms always come through the speakers. One final thing to note about the backup alarm: you should always configure the alarm via the Radio itself. If you are using the web-interface (or a remote on your phone or tablet) to change the alarm time then in the worst case your Radio is not really connected to the server (and thus never gets notified about the new alarm time). Then the fallback alarm also is not configured at the right time. If you configure the alarm directly on the Radio then you realize if it still has a connection to your server. -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Hypothetical Situation
bluegaspode;690376 Wrote: One final thing to note about the backup alarm: you should always configure the alarm via the Radio itself. If you are using the web-interface (or a remote on your phone or tablet) to change the alarm time then in the worst case your Radio is not really connected to the server (and thus never gets notified about the new alarm time). Then the fallback alarm also is not configured at the right time. If you configure the alarm directly on the Radio then you realize if it still has a connection to your server. Thanks bluegaspode, that final note is more great info. Spinning the large knob on the Radio is somewhat unwieldy - moreso for alpha than numeric - but I have been using the web interface to set the alarms. I've now reset them at the device itself. -- phred phred's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93578 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
