[RBW] Re: New Hilsen

2009-06-15 Thread Brian Hanson
It's a B17 Special in green and copper.

Brian
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On Jun 8, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Ed Fausto emfau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 That is one nice bike :-)
 Your comment that this is your first road bike after 18 years of  
 mountain biking has made me decide to pull the trigger.
 What brooks model have you installed?
 The saddle color is a good match to your bike.

 Ed


 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:14 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

 Beautiful bike and build.  Only advice - give the drops a good chance
 before switching.  You might learn to love them yet.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Jun 8, 12:41�am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've got about 100 miles on my new Metallic Copper Hilsen. �I did  
 the final
  build a few weekends ago in an afternoon, and everything went  
 together very
  nicely. �So far so good, but I'm getting used to drop bars and reg 
 ular
  pedals after riding a mt. bike for the last 18 years. �The jury is 
  still
  out, and I've got a set of Albatross bars waiting in the wings. �S 
 hifting is
  velvet smooth with the 9-speed older Dura-Ace setup. �The Silver s 
 hifters
  and brakes are all they're talked up to be...
 
  It was really fun to put this bike together - I loved the frame as  
 soon as I
  got it - these bikes are truly special! �Next steps for this proje 
 ct will be
  getting some fenders and rackage/baggage - this is the pacific NW  
 after
  all... �BTW - weight as it stands in these pics is right around 25 
  lbs for
  those that care. �On the trail it rides like a freight train - smo 
 oth and
  fast. �I shaved about 5-10 minutes off my daily 10 mile one-way co 
 mmute,
  although it's probably pure adrenaline from the big stupid grin on  
 my face.
 
  Hilsen Pics http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/AHomerHilsenInSeattle# 
 
 
  Brian Hanson



 

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[RBW] Re: Linda Blair's Wheel set?

2009-06-15 Thread Thomas Nezovich
Before you attempt cassette carrier (the body) replacement, try turning 
the cogs around and pedal on the other side of the teeth.
The UG cogs are twist teeth and are symmetrical.  You can't do this 
with the smallest cog but you can with all the others.
Sheldon tells about this somewhere in his writings.
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:22 AM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/lrhk3q
  Sounds like you may need to replace the body. Above is a link to 
 Sheldon Brown's article on Shimano cassettes and freehubs.  Gets sort 
 of complicated with early D-A hubs.

  Bruce wrote:Let me say first off, yes, I bought these wheels on Ebay. 
 Anyway, they're Synergy rims laced up on some older D-A hubs. The rear 
 is a Uniglide and has a 7 speed cassette of unknown provenance 
 affixed. For the price paid, I really am not too upset, although the 
 seller (who works for a bike coop and should know better) got several 
 items wrong in his write up. When I emailed on the matter, he said, 
 Oh, I never took them out of the box to look at them when I bought 
 them from the prior owner. 

  After truing the front (the rear was good) I took the bike on a 
 shakedown today and found that the 15 cog (the 2d smallest) has a 
 habit of freewheeling when it is used and any appreciable pressure is 
 put on the pedals. No problems on the 17 up to the 28, and only a 
 slight catch detected on the 12 cog. It's kind of like a neck 
 rotating when I go uphill on the 15.

  Any Uniglide users out there with ideas? Do I look for another 
 cassette?

  TIA




  

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[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick in VT

On Jun 11, 11:18 am, Rocky.Bondad fundamental.bicyc...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Gosh I'm still undecided if I should get the Cypres or the Hetres for my 
 wife's Bleriot.  She mainly rides on the weekends and I want to get her nice 
 comfy fast tires.  I hear so many great reviews for both Grand Bois tires.

If she weighs around 150 lbs or less, I'd say get the cypres.

I'm a hair under 160 and switch between the hetre and cypres fairly
often - at my weight, both tires feel decadent.  in other words,
saying that the hetre is more comfortable than the cypres ain't saying
much, esp. if the majority of riding is being done on paved roads.

On my rando bike, I save the cypres for brevets and ride the hetre for
everything else (although i did do a 350k and 400k on the hetre this
year - it performed better than I thought, but the cypres is still my
favorite when speed is a factor).

Something else to consider - the hetre has a much longer life than the
cypres.  If she starts riding more than just mostly weekends, you
might want to go with the hetre.








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[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread palincss

Quoting Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com:


 On Jun 11, 11:18 am, Rocky.Bondad fundamental.bicyc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Gosh I'm still undecided if I should get the Cypres or the Hetres   
 for my wife's Bleriot.  She mainly rides on the weekends and I want  
  to get her nice comfy fast tires.  I hear so many great reviews  
 for  both Grand Bois tires.

 If she weighs around 150 lbs or less, I'd say get the cypres.

 I'm a hair under 160 and switch between the hetre and cypres fairly
 often - at my weight, both tires feel decadent.  in other words,
 saying that the hetre is more comfortable than the cypres ain't saying
 much, esp. if the majority of riding is being done on paved roads.

 On my rando bike, I save the cypres for brevets and ride the hetre for
 everything else (although i did do a 350k and 400k on the hetre this
 year - it performed better than I thought, but the cypres is still my
 favorite when speed is a factor).

 Something else to consider - the hetre has a much longer life than the
 cypres.  If she starts riding more than just mostly weekends, you
 might want to go with the hetre.


Also, the Hetre is a better tire for dirt road riding.



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[RBW] My New Bags (Smythe and Acorn)

2009-06-15 Thread d2mini

I got my Nigel Smythe Big Loafer from Rivendell this week so I thought
I'd take the required pics and post'em up.
Don't think I posted it before but I also have one of the first rando
bags from Acorn Bags.

I also swapped out my traditional quill stem for a polished Velo
Orange traditional 6 degree stem and threadless stem adapter.
Now if I want to swap stems or something I don't have to re-wrap my
bars.

img src=http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/563926539_cyW8N-O.jpg;

img src=http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/563926615_aLi5D-O.jpg;
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[RBW] FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)

2009-06-15 Thread J. Burkhalter

Hello all,

Sorry this is so long, but I thought it might be a bit easier all in
one post.  I’m in the process of moving across the country,
simplifying things a bit, and giving up my shop and ample storage
space.   So, I’m offering up all that follows for sale here before
letting it go on Ebay.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I’m
glad to send additional pics, closeup, etc.  All prices include
shipping within CONUS.  Paypal please.

Pics available at http://tinyurl.com/nrzwth

Also, I am looking to buy or trade for the several items listed at the
bottom.  Thanks for looking.  Please reply off list.  I will update
availability when/if items sell.

Thanks!
-Jay
Asheville, NC

Rivendell items:
1. 54.5 Atlantis frameset $925
w/ Ultegra headset and downtube cable stops
fancy lugs, braze-ons galore
about 2500 miles
absolutely great condition
frame saved w/ Boeshield and always stored indoors
paint scratches from chain suck on chain stay
other small and superficial nicks from normal use
will be packed and shipped in the original box from Rivendell

2. 26x2.00 Schwalbe Marathon XR tires (folding) $60/pair
I have 2 pairs available.  Both with ~1000 miles of use

3. 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

4. 8cm NItto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

5. 8cm Nitto DirtDrop Stem $45
great condition, 25.4 clamp

6. 44cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars $40
good condition/minor scratches and some shellac, 26mm clamp

7. 56cm Nitto Albatross Handlebars CrMo (25.4mm clamp)  $35
great condition

8.Nitto Moustache Handlebars $40
good condition/some scratches, 25.4mm clamp

9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
great condition, used on 1 brevet

10. Baggins Panniers $120
good condition, used on 1 month long tour
dirty from normal use (have not tried to clean them)
one stitch coming loose (see pic).
all leather bits treated with Obenauf’s

11. IRD Cantilever Brakes $50
great condition
includes 4 lightly used black KoolStop pads, 4 used salmon KoolStop
pads, 2 sets of different length stradlewires


Non-Riv items:
1. Carradice Super C Barley $90
new and unused, same features as the Super C Camper, but size of the
Barley
PJW has some great pics at http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

2. Robert Beckman Front and Rear Panniers w/ Handlebar Bag and
raincovers $300
I bought this very lightly used set a couple of years ago with the
intention of retrofitting them with Ortlieb’s mounting system.  Never
got around to it, so they have been sitting in the closet.  Most
similar to the Discovery Series on Beckman’s old website (http://
tinyurl.com/nb9f8g) The mounting system is for Bruce Gordon racks.
Check out the pictures and ask me any questions.  Signed and dated by
RB.  Handlebar bag uses the venerable Klickfix attachment system. I’m
selling these as a set, NOT separately.  To be clear, these will not
attach to Nitto Racks as they are.  With the addition of an
aftermarket system (such as Arkel’s or Ortlieb’s) they will fit most
any rack.  As good a pannier set as you can buy, and handmade in the
US.  Too nice to sit in my closet any longer.


Things I want to buy or trade for:
1. 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem, 26mm clamp
2. 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars, 26mm clamp
3. 170mm Sugino XD Crankset
4. 650b Velocity Synergy rims, sym and asym.
5. Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes (bolt-on, not braze-on)
6. Schmidt SON28 dynohub
7. Schwalbe 650b Marathon tires (x2)
8. Grip King Pedals
9. Roly Poly tires new (x2)

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[RBW] Re: My New Bags (Smythe and Acorn)

2009-06-15 Thread Seth Vidal

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM, d2minid2creat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got my Nigel Smythe Big Loafer from Rivendell this week so I thought
 I'd take the required pics and post'em up.
 Don't think I posted it before but I also have one of the first rando
 bags from Acorn Bags.

 I also swapped out my traditional quill stem for a polished Velo
 Orange traditional 6 degree stem and threadless stem adapter.
 Now if I want to swap stems or something I don't have to re-wrap my
 bars.


1. Great looking bike
2. That stem replacement looks great. Are you sure that's only a
6degree rise? I might have to put some thought into for replacing the
stem I currently have.

Thanks
-sv

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)

2009-06-15 Thread James Warren

Jay,
Can I get dibs on the NS Little Loafer?

-Jim

-Original Message-
From: J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com
Sent: Jun 15, 2009 6:51 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)


Hello all,

Sorry this is so long, but I thought it might be a bit easier all in
one post.  I’m in the process of moving across the country,
simplifying things a bit, and giving up my shop and ample storage
space.   So, I’m offering up all that follows for sale here before
letting it go on Ebay.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I’m
glad to send additional pics, closeup, etc.  All prices include
shipping within CONUS.  Paypal please.

Pics available at http://tinyurl.com/nrzwth

Also, I am looking to buy or trade for the several items listed at the
bottom.  Thanks for looking.  Please reply off list.  I will update
availability when/if items sell.

Thanks!
-Jay
Asheville, NC

Rivendell items:
1. 54.5 Atlantis frameset $925
w/ Ultegra headset and downtube cable stops
fancy lugs, braze-ons galore
about 2500 miles
absolutely great condition
frame saved w/ Boeshield and always stored indoors
paint scratches from chain suck on chain stay
other small and superficial nicks from normal use
will be packed and shipped in the original box from Rivendell

2. 26x2.00 Schwalbe Marathon XR tires (folding) $60/pair
I have 2 pairs available.  Both with ~1000 miles of use

3. 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

4. 8cm NItto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

5. 8cm Nitto DirtDrop Stem $45
great condition, 25.4 clamp

6. 44cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars $40
good condition/minor scratches and some shellac, 26mm clamp

7. 56cm Nitto Albatross Handlebars CrMo (25.4mm clamp)  $35
great condition

8.Nitto Moustache Handlebars $40
good condition/some scratches, 25.4mm clamp

9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
great condition, used on 1 brevet

10. Baggins Panniers $120
good condition, used on 1 month long tour
dirty from normal use (have not tried to clean them)
one stitch coming loose (see pic).
all leather bits treated with Obenauf’s

11. IRD Cantilever Brakes $50
great condition
includes 4 lightly used black KoolStop pads, 4 used salmon KoolStop
pads, 2 sets of different length stradlewires


Non-Riv items:
1. Carradice Super C Barley $90
new and unused, same features as the Super C Camper, but size of the
Barley
PJW has some great pics at http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

2. Robert Beckman Front and Rear Panniers w/ Handlebar Bag and
raincovers $300
I bought this very lightly used set a couple of years ago with the
intention of retrofitting them with Ortlieb’s mounting system.  Never
got around to it, so they have been sitting in the closet.  Most
similar to the Discovery Series on Beckman’s old website (http://
tinyurl.com/nb9f8g) The mounting system is for Bruce Gordon racks.
Check out the pictures and ask me any questions.  Signed and dated by
RB.  Handlebar bag uses the venerable Klickfix attachment system. I’m
selling these as a set, NOT separately.  To be clear, these will not
attach to Nitto Racks as they are.  With the addition of an
aftermarket system (such as Arkel’s or Ortlieb’s) they will fit most
any rack.  As good a pannier set as you can buy, and handmade in the
US.  Too nice to sit in my closet any longer.


Things I want to buy or trade for:
1. 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem, 26mm clamp
2. 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars, 26mm clamp
3. 170mm Sugino XD Crankset
4. 650b Velocity Synergy rims, sym and asym.
5. Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes (bolt-on, not braze-on)
6. Schmidt SON28 dynohub
7. Schwalbe 650b Marathon tires (x2)
8. Grip King Pedals
9. Roly Poly tires new (x2)




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[RBW] Re: My New Bags (Smythe and Acorn)

2009-06-15 Thread d2mini

Thanks, Seth.

The stem is flipped for more rise. Flipped back the other way and it's
almost level.


On Jun 15, 9:05 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM, d2minid2creat...@gmail.com wrote:

  I got my Nigel Smythe Big Loafer from Rivendell this week so I thought
  I'd take the required pics and post'em up.
  Don't think I posted it before but I also have one of the first rando
  bags from Acorn Bags.

  I also swapped out my traditional quill stem for a polished Velo
  Orange traditional 6 degree stem and threadless stem adapter.
  Now if I want to swap stems or something I don't have to re-wrap my
  bars.

 1. Great looking bike
 2. That stem replacement looks great. Are you sure that's only a
 6degree rise? I might have to put some thought into for replacing the
 stem I currently have.

 Thanks
 -sv
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[RBW] Re: Installing a Tubus Luna rack

2009-06-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Wayne has excellent prices and service, judging from my one encounter with
him.
I mounted my last two Flys without bothering to use the steel tab; I just
bent the aluminum strut in a vise. And, the strut will slide considerably
into and out of its containing rack tube, so I didn't find it necessary to
trim it.

How does the Luna compare to the Fly?

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:43 AM, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote:


 I've wanted to install a narrow-profile, pannier-compatible rack like
 the Tubus Fly or Luna for commuting on my AHH, but was worried about
 fitment with that mono-stay.  It seemed like a shame to let those seat
 stay braze-ons go to waste, and bending and cutting the mono-stay to
 fit was pretty intimidating.  I bought a Luna from Wayne at
 TheTouringStore.com (who is great, by the way), and then stared at it
 for a couple of weeks.  I considered bringing it to one of the local
 bike shops, but then last night I just went for it.  Installation
 wasn't nearly as bad as I thought.  The rack comes with a steel tab
 that you can use to bridge the aluminum mono-stay to the rear brake
 bolt.  This tab comes slightly pre-bent, so it's easy to finish the
 job.  I clamped it in a vice by the wide end, and pounded the narrow
 end to 90 degrees.  Easy.  I then unbolted the rear brake, removed the
 last aluminum spacer (behind the thin fender mount), and replaced it
 with the 90 degree tab.Then I mounted the rack to the second set
 of eyelets on the rear dropouts (using the included black aluminum
 spacers to avoid interfering with the fender stays), tilted the rack
 level, and kind of eye-balled what how much the aluminum mono-stay
 would have to be bent and cut.  I took off about 4 inches with a
 hacksaw, clamped resized mono-stay in the vice, and bent it.  Held it
 up to the rack / 90 degree tab, then clamped it in the vice again and
 bent it a little more.  Perfect.  I sanded the edges of the cut stay,
 installed it, and done.  Not nearly as bad as I thought, and the whole
 process took about 1 hr.  I'll post pictures later.



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Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] Re: My New Bags (Smythe and Acorn)

2009-06-15 Thread BPustow
I did the same on both the Rambouillet and Hilsen. The VO stems are  
beautiful, relatively cheap, light, and, as you said, they make it easy to  
change 
stems.
Bill
Louisville, Ky
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2009 9:46:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
d2creat...@gmail.com writes:
 
I also  swapped out my traditional quill stem for a polished Velo
Orange  traditional 6 degree stem and threadless stem adapter.
Now if I want to  swap stems or something I don't have to re-wrap  my
bars.


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[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Jan Heine

On smooth paved roads, the difference between the Hetre (650B x 40 mm
actual) and the Cypres (650B x 30 mm actual) is minimal. Once the
roads get rough, the Hetre absorbs bigger bumps (expansion joints,
frost heaves, chipseal, potholes) better. On unpaved roads, the Cypres
is fine, but the Hetre is better, especially on deep gravel.

Regarding flats, Gino had bad luck in his area with the Cypres. I get
around 2000 miles between flats here in Seattle, compared to about
3000 miles for a Rivendell Rolly-Poly. It all depends where you ride
and how you ride. From what I hear, the Hetre does appear more flat-
proof. I haven't had a flat on mine yet, but I have only ridden them
about 3000 miles. Speed-wise, there probably is little between these
tires, especially once the Hetre's thicker tread wears down a bit.

I prefer the Hetre, because it allows me to worry less about potholes
and focus more on the scenery. And I can keep going when the pavement
ends.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
140 Lakeside Ave #C
Seattle WA 98122
http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com

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[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-15 Thread clevewheel

Darren-

The cyclotourist is indeed a very beautiful crank but it is best
suited to those with narrow hips because of its low Q factor.  If you
have narrow hips your feet  will naturally fall closer together on the
pedals.  Watch people from behind as they pedal and notice where their
feet are relative to their hips and what that does to their knees.  A
crank that is too narrow or too wide for a person will result in knee
problems and pedaling inefficiency/leg fatugue.

Velo-Orange has the new 60th anniversary model cyclotourist in 165mm
and 172.5mm.  Yellow Jersey has the old model in 165 and 175 mm.  The
new model has been adapted slightly for modern front derailleurs -
something Jan Heine wrote about in BQ - and the dust caps are
different.

Kathryn
Eugene, OR












On Jun 11, 12:58 pm, Darren Stone dst...@bitmason.com wrote:
 Hi.  I have a tech crankarm/BB/spindle question that could use some
 expert insight.

 Current:  Saluki w/ Sugino 50-40-26 triple  Phil BB.  It's fine but I
 definitely notice the width/tread/q-factor.  My other rides are all
 singlespeeds, so that's to be expected.  The triple is decadent but
 I'm seriously thinking about moving to a wide-range double.  I spend
 most of my time in the 40 ring, likely in the 43 to 86 inch range.
 I've done the math and a 46-30 double might suit my riding needs.  I'd
 like to keep my 8 speed 12-32 XT cassette, Campy Record 9-speed chain,
 and friction shift.  It's all working well.

 So what I'm considering are the TA Pro 5 Vis cranks.  Apparently,
 they're narrower than most cranksets so that's very appealing.
 Aesthetically, gorgeous.  No reason to change the Phil BB, I assume.
 But what do I need to measure/scrutinize/order now before I make the
 switch?  I understand chainline but some of the BB width and spindle
 length specs confuse me.

 Open to opinions.  Cheers!

 -Darren.
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[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-15 Thread clevewheel

Darren-

Also, I have an old Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur, which works
well with both models of cyclotourist.  I started with 115mm bb as
recommended, but it turns out to work better with a 118mm bb - not
sure but that might be because the frame was built for a 42mm tire
with fenders.

Kathryn
Eugene, OR

On Jun 11, 12:58 pm, Darren Stone dst...@bitmason.com wrote:
 Hi.  I have a tech crankarm/BB/spindle question that could use some
 expert insight.

 Current:  Saluki w/ Sugino 50-40-26 triple  Phil BB.  It's fine but I
 definitely notice the width/tread/q-factor.  My other rides are all
 singlespeeds, so that's to be expected.  The triple is decadent but
 I'm seriously thinking about moving to a wide-range double.  I spend
 most of my time in the 40 ring, likely in the 43 to 86 inch range.
 I've done the math and a 46-30 double might suit my riding needs.  I'd
 like to keep my 8 speed 12-32 XT cassette, Campy Record 9-speed chain,
 and friction shift.  It's all working well.

 So what I'm considering are the TA Pro 5 Vis cranks.  Apparently,
 they're narrower than most cranksets so that's very appealing.
 Aesthetically, gorgeous.  No reason to change the Phil BB, I assume.
 But what do I need to measure/scrutinize/order now before I make the
 switch?  I understand chainline but some of the BB width and spindle
 length specs confuse me.

 Open to opinions.  Cheers!

 -Darren.
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[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread David Estes
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:

{snip}


 And I can keep going when the pavement ends.

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[RBW] Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread Joe Bartoe


Hi All,

Saturday, I had an interesting experience. I was approaching a stop sign in San 
Clemente when two OC Sheriffs on motorcycles passed through the intersection 
going the opposite direction. One of these guys, upon seeing me, came to a 
complete stop in the middle of the road so he could see whether I would stop at 
the sign. Part of me was tempted to stop without putting my foot down to see 
what he would do, but I decided that any cop willing to stop and watch me like 
this was just waiting to ruin my ride, so I put my foot down and then continued 
through. I'm still in disbelief that this guy actually stopped in the middle of 
a roadway and obstructed traffic (he almost got hit by a car from behind) just 
to watch me stop at the intersection.

It seemed to me that these two were patrolling for the sole purpose of 
ticketing cyclists. The Irvine Bicycle Club was having their annual weekend 
trip to Carlsbad and back this past weekend and these two were heading down 
along their route. Last month, there was another club doing a ride down in San 
Diego County and motorcycle officers in Oceanside were camped out along their 
route (note that these were club rides, not big organized rides), issuing 
tickets to riders who failed to completely stop at a stop sign. In both cases, 
this was done on a road that was not a major road and at places where riders 
going through the stop sign would not cause much harm even if they did blow 
through them (they were at T-intersections where riders were passing through 
the top, where they wouldn't obstruct a turning car).

With all the bad driving that I see all over, this seems like a big waste of 
time and it feels like these guys are singling out cyclists. In addition, they 
seem to be a little too aware of where bike club rides are going to be and 
taking advantage of that situation.

Sorry, this is more of a rant, but it annoys me a lot that there seems to be 
some element in law enforcement that feels that we as cyclists are such 
scofflaws that we merit this extra attention.

Joe

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[RBW] Re: Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread Bruce
Was San Diego County where a deputy fell asleep at the wheel and struck and 
killed cyclists?

It might be payback





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Subject: [RBW] Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

 
Hi All,

Saturday, I had an interesting experience. I was approaching a stop sign in San 
Clemente when two OC Sheriffs on motorcycles passed through the intersection 
going the opposite direction. One of these guys, upon seeing me,



  
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[RBW] Re: Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
As one cop (the nice kind) told my brother once, many cops come from the
same pool as the criminals they chase. I know I've come across stupid jerk
cops; but many are also normal, ie polite with nothing to prove.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 Saturday, I had an interesting experience. I was approaching a stop sign in
 San Clemente when two OC Sheriffs on motorcycles passed through the
 intersection going the opposite direction. One of these guys, upon seeing
 me, came to a complete stop in the middle of the road so he could see
 whether I would stop at the sign. Part of me was tempted to stop without
 putting my foot down to see what he would do, but I decided that any cop
 willing to stop and watch me like this was just waiting to ruin my ride, so
 I put my foot down and then continued through. I'm still in disbelief that
 this guy actually stopped in the middle of a roadway and obstructed traffic
 (he almost got hit by a car from behind) just to watch me stop at the
 intersection.

 It seemed to me that these two were patrolling for the sole purpose of
 ticketing cyclists. The Irvine Bicycle Club was having their annual weekend
 trip to Carlsbad and back this past weekend and these two were heading down
 along their route. Last month, there was another club doing a ride down in
 San Diego County and motorcycle officers in Oceanside were camped out along
 their route (note that these were club rides, not big organized rides),
 issuing tickets to riders who failed to completely stop at a stop sign. In
 both cases, this was done on a road that was not a major road and at places
 where riders going through the stop sign would not cause much harm even if
 they did blow through them (they were at T-intersections where riders were
 passing through the top, where they wouldn't obstruct a turning car).

 With all the bad driving that I see all over, this seems like a big waste
 of time and it feels like these guys are singling out cyclists. In addition,
 they seem to be a little too aware of where bike club rides are going to be
 and taking advantage of that situation.

 Sorry, this is more of a rant, but it annoys me a lot that there seems to
 be some element in law enforcement that feels that we as cyclists are such
 scofflaws that we merit this extra attention.

 Joe

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)

2009-06-15 Thread Mike Gillespie

Hi Jay,

I'd be interested in the Albatross bars and I have a practically new
set of 46cm noodle bars I can trade, if you are interested in that.

Other things I may be interested in include the IRD brakes, DD stem
(if I get the Alba bars).  I have some new Ruffy Tuffy tires (still
folded in the package) for trade for these if you may be interesed in
those for these.

Thanks,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, J. Burkhalterburk...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 Sorry this is so long, but I thought it might be a bit easier all in
 one post.  I’m in the process of moving across the country,
 simplifying things a bit, and giving up my shop and ample storage
 space.   So, I’m offering up all that follows for sale here before
 letting it go on Ebay.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I’m
 glad to send additional pics, closeup, etc.  All prices include
 shipping within CONUS.  Paypal please.

 Pics available at http://tinyurl.com/nrzwth

 Also, I am looking to buy or trade for the several items listed at the
 bottom.  Thanks for looking.  Please reply off list.  I will update
 availability when/if items sell.

 Thanks!
 -Jay
 Asheville, NC

 Rivendell items:
 1. 54.5 Atlantis frameset $925
 w/ Ultegra headset and downtube cable stops
 fancy lugs, braze-ons galore
 about 2500 miles
 absolutely great condition
 frame saved w/ Boeshield and always stored indoors
 paint scratches from chain suck on chain stay
 other small and superficial nicks from normal use
 will be packed and shipped in the original box from Rivendell

 2. 26x2.00 Schwalbe Marathon XR tires (folding) $60/pair
 I have 2 pairs available.  Both with ~1000 miles of use

 3. 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
 good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

 4. 8cm NItto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
 good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

 5. 8cm Nitto DirtDrop Stem $45
 great condition, 25.4 clamp

 6. 44cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars $40
 good condition/minor scratches and some shellac, 26mm clamp

 7. 56cm Nitto Albatross Handlebars CrMo (25.4mm clamp)  $35
 great condition

 8.Nitto Moustache Handlebars $40
 good condition/some scratches, 25.4mm clamp

 9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
 great condition, used on 1 brevet

 10. Baggins Panniers $120
 good condition, used on 1 month long tour
 dirty from normal use (have not tried to clean them)
 one stitch coming loose (see pic).
 all leather bits treated with Obenauf’s

 11. IRD Cantilever Brakes $50
 great condition
 includes 4 lightly used black KoolStop pads, 4 used salmon KoolStop
 pads, 2 sets of different length stradlewires


 Non-Riv items:
 1. Carradice Super C Barley $90
 new and unused, same features as the Super C Camper, but size of the
 Barley
 PJW has some great pics at http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

 2. Robert Beckman Front and Rear Panniers w/ Handlebar Bag and
 raincovers $300
 I bought this very lightly used set a couple of years ago with the
 intention of retrofitting them with Ortlieb’s mounting system.  Never
 got around to it, so they have been sitting in the closet.  Most
 similar to the Discovery Series on Beckman’s old website (http://
 tinyurl.com/nb9f8g) The mounting system is for Bruce Gordon racks.
 Check out the pictures and ask me any questions.  Signed and dated by
 RB.  Handlebar bag uses the venerable Klickfix attachment system. I’m
 selling these as a set, NOT separately.  To be clear, these will not
 attach to Nitto Racks as they are.  With the addition of an
 aftermarket system (such as Arkel’s or Ortlieb’s) they will fit most
 any rack.  As good a pannier set as you can buy, and handmade in the
 US.  Too nice to sit in my closet any longer.


 Things I want to buy or trade for:
 1. 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem, 26mm clamp
 2. 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars, 26mm clamp
 3. 170mm Sugino XD Crankset
 4. 650b Velocity Synergy rims, sym and asym.
 5. Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes (bolt-on, not braze-on)
 6. Schmidt SON28 dynohub
 7. Schwalbe 650b Marathon tires (x2)
 8. Grip King Pedals
 9. Roly Poly tires new (x2)

 


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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)

2009-06-15 Thread Beardpapa

Hey Jay,

Just sent you an email.  I'd also like to purchase the
Carradice Super C Barley $90

Let me know how I can pay ASAP.

Thanks!
Gideon


On Jun 15, 8:51 am, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 Sorry this is so long, but I thought it might be a bit easier all in
 one post.  I’m in the process of moving across the country,
 simplifying things a bit, and giving up my shop and ample storage
 space.   So, I’m offering up all that follows for sale here before
 letting it go on Ebay.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I’m
 glad to send additional pics, closeup, etc.  All prices include
 shipping within CONUS.  Paypal please.

 Pics available athttp://tinyurl.com/nrzwth

 Also, I am looking to buy or trade for the several items listed at the
 bottom.  Thanks for looking.  Please reply off list.  I will update
 availability when/if items sell.

 Thanks!
 -Jay
 Asheville, NC

 Rivendell items:
 1. 54.5 Atlantis frameset $925
 w/ Ultegra headset and downtube cable stops
 fancy lugs, braze-ons galore
 about 2500 miles
 absolutely great condition
 frame saved w/ Boeshield and always stored indoors
 paint scratches from chain suck on chain stay
 other small and superficial nicks from normal use
 will be packed and shipped in the original box from Rivendell

 2. 26x2.00 Schwalbe Marathon XR tires (folding) $60/pair
 I have 2 pairs available.  Both with ~1000 miles of use

 3. 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
 good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

 4. 8cm NItto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
 good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

 5. 8cm Nitto DirtDrop Stem $45
 great condition, 25.4 clamp

 6. 44cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars $40
 good condition/minor scratches and some shellac, 26mm clamp

 7. 56cm Nitto Albatross Handlebars CrMo (25.4mm clamp)  $35
 great condition

 8.Nitto Moustache Handlebars $40
 good condition/some scratches, 25.4mm clamp

 9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
 great condition, used on 1 brevet

 10. Baggins Panniers $120
 good condition, used on 1 month long tour
 dirty from normal use (have not tried to clean them)
 one stitch coming loose (see pic).
 all leather bits treated with Obenauf’s

 11. IRD Cantilever Brakes $50
 great condition
 includes 4 lightly used black KoolStop pads, 4 used salmon KoolStop
 pads, 2 sets of different length stradlewires

 Non-Riv items:
 1. Carradice Super C Barley $90
 new and unused, same features as the Super C Camper, but size of the
 Barley
 PJW has some great pics athttp://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

 2. Robert Beckman Front and Rear Panniers w/ Handlebar Bag and
 raincovers $300
 I bought this very lightly used set a couple of years ago with the
 intention of retrofitting them with Ortlieb’s mounting system.  Never
 got around to it, so they have been sitting in the closet.  Most
 similar to the Discovery Series on Beckman’s old website (http://
 tinyurl.com/nb9f8g) The mounting system is for Bruce Gordon racks.
 Check out the pictures and ask me any questions.  Signed and dated by
 RB.  Handlebar bag uses the venerable Klickfix attachment system. I’m
 selling these as a set, NOT separately.  To be clear, these will not
 attach to Nitto Racks as they are.  With the addition of an
 aftermarket system (such as Arkel’s or Ortlieb’s) they will fit most
 any rack.  As good a pannier set as you can buy, and handmade in the
 US.  Too nice to sit in my closet any longer.

 Things I want to buy or trade for:
 1. 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem, 26mm clamp
 2. 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars, 26mm clamp
 3. 170mm Sugino XD Crankset
 4. 650b Velocity Synergy rims, sym and asym.
 5. Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes (bolt-on, not braze-on)
 6. Schmidt SON28 dynohub
 7. Schwalbe 650b Marathon tires (x2)
 8. Grip King Pedals
 9. Roly Poly tires new (x2)

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)

2009-06-15 Thread Beardpapa

Hey Jay,


I'd like to purchase ASAP!
9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
10. Baggins Panniers $120

Thanks!
Gideon


On Jun 15, 8:51 am, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 Sorry this is so long, but I thought it might be a bit easier all in
 one post.  I’m in the process of moving across the country,
 simplifying things a bit, and giving up my shop and ample storage
 space.   So, I’m offering up all that follows for sale here before
 letting it go on Ebay.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I’m
 glad to send additional pics, closeup, etc.  All prices include
 shipping within CONUS.  Paypal please.

 Pics available athttp://tinyurl.com/nrzwth

 Also, I am looking to buy or trade for the several items listed at the
 bottom.  Thanks for looking.  Please reply off list.  I will update
 availability when/if items sell.

 Thanks!
 -Jay
 Asheville, NC

 Rivendell items:
 1. 54.5 Atlantis frameset $925
 w/ Ultegra headset and downtube cable stops
 fancy lugs, braze-ons galore
 about 2500 miles
 absolutely great condition
 frame saved w/ Boeshield and always stored indoors
 paint scratches from chain suck on chain stay
 other small and superficial nicks from normal use
 will be packed and shipped in the original box from Rivendell

 2. 26x2.00 Schwalbe Marathon XR tires (folding) $60/pair
 I have 2 pairs available.  Both with ~1000 miles of use

 3. 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
 good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

 4. 8cm NItto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
 good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

 5. 8cm Nitto DirtDrop Stem $45
 great condition, 25.4 clamp

 6. 44cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars $40
 good condition/minor scratches and some shellac, 26mm clamp

 7. 56cm Nitto Albatross Handlebars CrMo (25.4mm clamp)  $35
 great condition

 8.Nitto Moustache Handlebars $40
 good condition/some scratches, 25.4mm clamp

 9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
 great condition, used on 1 brevet

 10. Baggins Panniers $120
 good condition, used on 1 month long tour
 dirty from normal use (have not tried to clean them)
 one stitch coming loose (see pic).
 all leather bits treated with Obenauf’s

 11. IRD Cantilever Brakes $50
 great condition
 includes 4 lightly used black KoolStop pads, 4 used salmon KoolStop
 pads, 2 sets of different length stradlewires

 Non-Riv items:
 1. Carradice Super C Barley $90
 new and unused, same features as the Super C Camper, but size of the
 Barley
 PJW has some great pics athttp://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

 2. Robert Beckman Front and Rear Panniers w/ Handlebar Bag and
 raincovers $300
 I bought this very lightly used set a couple of years ago with the
 intention of retrofitting them with Ortlieb’s mounting system.  Never
 got around to it, so they have been sitting in the closet.  Most
 similar to the Discovery Series on Beckman’s old website (http://
 tinyurl.com/nb9f8g) The mounting system is for Bruce Gordon racks.
 Check out the pictures and ask me any questions.  Signed and dated by
 RB.  Handlebar bag uses the venerable Klickfix attachment system. I’m
 selling these as a set, NOT separately.  To be clear, these will not
 attach to Nitto Racks as they are.  With the addition of an
 aftermarket system (such as Arkel’s or Ortlieb’s) they will fit most
 any rack.  As good a pannier set as you can buy, and handmade in the
 US.  Too nice to sit in my closet any longer.

 Things I want to buy or trade for:
 1. 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem, 26mm clamp
 2. 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars, 26mm clamp
 3. 170mm Sugino XD Crankset
 4. 650b Velocity Synergy rims, sym and asym.
 5. Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes (bolt-on, not braze-on)
 6. Schmidt SON28 dynohub
 7. Schwalbe 650b Marathon tires (x2)
 8. Grip King Pedals
 9. Roly Poly tires new (x2)

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[RBW] Re: Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread Jim Cloud

I'm under the opinion that some selective enforcement arises from
the ease of obtaining tickets from violators.  I've seen a motorcycle
policeman in Tucson who sits on his bike in the shade of a tree along
a rodeway with a rather low speed limit ticketing the unwary.  It's
kind of like shooting fish in a barrel (the roadway I have in mind
drops the speed limit from 35mph to 25mph in a short section).

If you ask a policeman if they have to write a quoto of tickets the
response is we can write as many as we want... however, I'm
suspicious that they actually are rated by the number of tickets
written.

As far as extra attention giiven to bicyclists, at least in Tucson, I
haven't experienced any problems.  Our main problem seems to be drunk
drivers leaping curbs, or whatever, and wiping out some poor
bicyclist.

Jim



On Jun 15, 10:27 am, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Saturday, I had an interesting experience. I was approaching a stop sign in 
 San Clemente when two OC Sheriffs on motorcycles passed through the 
 intersection going the opposite direction. One of these guys, upon seeing me, 
 came to a complete stop in the middle of the road so he could see whether I 
 would stop at the sign. Part of me was tempted to stop without putting my 
 foot down to see what he would do, but I decided that any cop willing to stop 
 and watch me like this was just waiting to ruin my ride, so I put my foot 
 down and then continued through. I'm still in disbelief that this guy 
 actually stopped in the middle of a roadway and obstructed traffic (he almost 
 got hit by a car from behind) just to watch me stop at the intersection.

 It seemed to me that these two were patrolling for the sole purpose of 
 ticketing cyclists. The Irvine Bicycle Club was having their annual weekend 
 trip to Carlsbad and back this past weekend and these two were heading down 
 along their route. Last month, there was another club doing a ride down in 
 San Diego County and motorcycle officers in Oceanside were camped out along 
 their route (note that these were club rides, not big organized rides), 
 issuing tickets to riders who failed to completely stop at a stop sign. In 
 both cases, this was done on a road that was not a major road and at places 
 where riders going through the stop sign would not cause much harm even if 
 they did blow through them (they were at T-intersections where riders were 
 passing through the top, where they wouldn't obstruct a turning car).

 With all the bad driving that I see all over, this seems like a big waste of 
 time and it feels like these guys are singling out cyclists. In addition, 
 they seem to be a little too aware of where bike club rides are going to be 
 and taking advantage of that situation.

 Sorry, this is more of a rant, but it annoys me a lot that there seems to be 
 some element in law enforcement that feels that we as cyclists are such 
 scofflaws that we merit this extra attention.

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[RBW] WTT: Black B.17 for a Brown(Honey) one?

2009-06-15 Thread RoadieRyan

I have a brand new in the box classic black Brooks B.17 that has been
waitng for an upcoming build.  While the black will work out fine, all
the fine road bikes on cyclofiend with the brown saddle/bar tape combo
have been catching my eye.  So I thought it would be worth a flyer to
see if someone out there has a new brown B.17 and have decided they
want black?

If interested contact me offline and I can send photos of the saddle
in question

Thanks
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[RBW] Re: Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread Esteban

I'm quite careful on my coast rides and downtown riding to ride
according to law - a ticket would sure ruin my ride.

California needs the Idaho Stop Law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84eB0N-LG6M

Great animation, anyway.

On Jun 15, 12:11 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Jim Cloudcloud...@aol.com wrote:

  I'm under the opinion that some selective enforcement arises from
  the ease of obtaining tickets from violators.  I've seen a motorcycle
  policeman in Tucson who sits on his bike in the shade of a tree along
  a rodeway with a rather low speed limit ticketing the unwary.  It's
  kind of like shooting fish in a barrel (the roadway I have in mind
  drops the speed limit from 35mph to 25mph in a short section).

  If you ask a policeman if they have to write a quoto of tickets the
  response is we can write as many as we want... however, I'm
  suspicious that they actually are rated by the number of tickets
  written.

 From a couple of friends who are respectively, local and state cops in
 Virginia about 8 or so years ago:

 Local cops are told to have about the same number of tickets written,
 on average, as any state trooper.

 State cops are told to have, on average, more tickets than any local cop.

 No one has a set quota, they just have sliding scales.  Neat little system. :)

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: lots of Riv items (frame, stems, h'bars, bags, etc...)

2009-06-15 Thread Esteban

I'll go for the IRD brakes - for sure -  if Mike doesn't want them.

Thanks for putting this here!
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jun 15, 10:05 am, Beardpapa gts...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Jay,

 I'd like to purchase ASAP!
 9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
 10. Baggins Panniers $120

 Thanks!
 Gideon

 On Jun 15, 8:51 am, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Hello all,

  Sorry this is so long, but I thought it might be a bit easier all in
  one post.  I’m in the process of moving across the country,
  simplifying things a bit, and giving up my shop and ample storage
  space.   So, I’m offering up all that follows for sale here before
  letting it go on Ebay.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I’m
  glad to send additional pics, closeup, etc.  All prices include
  shipping within CONUS.  Paypal please.

  Pics available athttp://tinyurl.com/nrzwth

  Also, I am looking to buy or trade for the several items listed at the
  bottom.  Thanks for looking.  Please reply off list.  I will update
  availability when/if items sell.

  Thanks!
  -Jay
  Asheville, NC

  Rivendell items:
  1. 54.5 Atlantis frameset $925
  w/ Ultegra headset and downtube cable stops
  fancy lugs, braze-ons galore
  about 2500 miles
  absolutely great condition
  frame saved w/ Boeshield and always stored indoors
  paint scratches from chain suck on chain stay
  other small and superficial nicks from normal use
  will be packed and shipped in the original box from Rivendell

  2. 26x2.00 Schwalbe Marathon XR tires (folding) $60/pair
  I have 2 pairs available.  Both with ~1000 miles of use

  3. 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
  good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

  4. 8cm NItto Technomic Deluxe Stem $40
  good condition/some scratches on quill, 26mm clamp

  5. 8cm Nitto DirtDrop Stem $45
  great condition, 25.4 clamp

  6. 44cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars $40
  good condition/minor scratches and some shellac, 26mm clamp

  7. 56cm Nitto Albatross Handlebars CrMo (25.4mm clamp)  $35
  great condition

  8.Nitto Moustache Handlebars $40
  good condition/some scratches, 25.4mm clamp

  9. Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer Tan Canvas $75
  great condition, used on 1 brevet

  10. Baggins Panniers $120
  good condition, used on 1 month long tour
  dirty from normal use (have not tried to clean them)
  one stitch coming loose (see pic).
  all leather bits treated with Obenauf’s

  11. IRD Cantilever Brakes $50
  great condition
  includes 4 lightly used black KoolStop pads, 4 used salmon KoolStop
  pads, 2 sets of different length stradlewires

  Non-Riv items:
  1. Carradice Super C Barley $90
  new and unused, same features as the Super C Camper, but size of the
  Barley
  PJW has some great pics athttp://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

  2. Robert Beckman Front and Rear Panniers w/ Handlebar Bag and
  raincovers $300
  I bought this very lightly used set a couple of years ago with the
  intention of retrofitting them with Ortlieb’s mounting system.  Never
  got around to it, so they have been sitting in the closet.  Most
  similar to the Discovery Series on Beckman’s old website (http://
  tinyurl.com/nb9f8g) The mounting system is for Bruce Gordon racks.
  Check out the pictures and ask me any questions.  Signed and dated by
  RB.  Handlebar bag uses the venerable Klickfix attachment system. I’m
  selling these as a set, NOT separately.  To be clear, these will not
  attach to Nitto Racks as they are.  With the addition of an
  aftermarket system (such as Arkel’s or Ortlieb’s) they will fit most
  any rack.  As good a pannier set as you can buy, and handmade in the
  US.  Too nice to sit in my closet any longer.

  Things I want to buy or trade for:
  1. 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem, 26mm clamp
  2. 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars, 26mm clamp
  3. 170mm Sugino XD Crankset
  4. 650b Velocity Synergy rims, sym and asym.
  5. Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes (bolt-on, not braze-on)
  6. Schmidt SON28 dynohub
  7. Schwalbe 650b Marathon tires (x2)
  8. Grip King Pedals
  9. Roly Poly tires new (x2)
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[RBW] RE: [BOB] Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread Doug Peterson

Recently the Irvine PD has upped the enforcement of stop sign violations and
seem to be targeting cyclists.  BCI has seen several cases of IPD setting
up shop with a couple of motorbikes tucked out of sight and nabbing
multiple cyclists for failing to stop at a sign.  It's curious they know
where to be and when, but BCI routes are listed on their website so it would
be easy for the cops to find out the route for a given day and rake in a few
extra bucks on a weekend.  
If you're part of a group just passing thru Irvine, note that the City
passed an ordinance limiting bicycles to riding 2 abreast within the bike
lane.  

dougP

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[mailto:internet-bob-boun...@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Joe Bartoe
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com; internet-...@bikelist.org
Subject: [BOB] Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties



Hi All,

Saturday, I had an interesting experience. I was approaching a stop sign in
San Clemente when two OC Sheriffs on motorcycles passed through the
intersection going the opposite direction. One of these guys, upon seeing
me, came to a complete stop in the middle of the road so he could see
whether I would stop at the sign. Part of me was tempted to stop without
putting my foot down to see what he would do, but I decided that any cop
willing to stop and watch me like this was just waiting to ruin my ride, so
I put my foot down and then continued through. I'm still in disbelief that
this guy actually stopped in the middle of a roadway and obstructed traffic
(he almost got hit by a car from behind) just to watch me stop at the
intersection.

It seemed to me that these two were patrolling for the sole purpose of
ticketing cyclists. The Irvine Bicycle Club was having their annual weekend
trip to Carlsbad and back this past weekend and these two were heading down
along their route. Last month, there was another club doing a ride down in
San Diego County and motorcycle officers in Oceanside were camped out along
their route (note that these were club rides, not big organized rides),
issuing tickets to riders who failed to completely stop at a stop sign. In
both cases, this was done on a road that was not a major road and at places
where riders going through the stop sign would not cause much harm even if
they did blow through them (they were at T-intersections where riders were
passing through the top, where they wouldn't obstruct a turning car).

With all the bad driving that I see all over, this seems like a big waste of
time and it feels like these guys are singling out cyclists. In addition,
they seem to be a little too aware of where bike club rides are going to be
and taking advantage of that situation.

Sorry, this is more of a rant, but it annoys me a lot that there seems to be
some element in law enforcement that feels that we as cyclists are such
scofflaws that we merit this extra attention.

Joe

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[RBW] Re: Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties

2009-06-15 Thread Joe Bartoe

Nope,

That was the bay area.


Joe

Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:03:14 -0700
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com



Was San Diego County where a deputy fell asleep at the wheel and struck and 
killed cyclists?

It might be payback

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Subject: [RBW] Cops in Orange and San Diego Counties







Hi All,

Saturday, I had an interesting experience. I was approaching a stop sign in San 
Clemente when two OC Sheriffs on motorcycles passed through the intersection 
going the opposite direction. One of these guys, upon seeing me,




  




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[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread Gino Zahnd

Well if one were budget-minded or budget-impaired, one could purchase
plush 650b tires for less than $20 (CDLV). They don't offer the same
performance, but they do get you there in comfort, and last this side
of forever. It's mostly that context that I was speaking to.

Cheers,
Gino


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 What's so hard to bear about the price of the Hetre?

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[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-15 Thread franklyn

It's interesting that Fatty Rumpkins don't get much discussion
attention when people talk about 650b general purpose tires. I have
had them for 4 months and 1000 miles on my commuter and not a single
problem. They measure fairly close to the hetre in width on synergy
rims (40mm) and they are fairly silent, especially after the initial
period of wear. I have used it on a few mixed-terrain rides and they
grip fairly well in shallow gravel and semi-wet dirt paths. They are
not as fast as the hetres, but they are also plenty comfortable and
puncture proof. I got them for $22.50 a piece (not foldable) from
Universal Cycles in Portland. I love my Hetres and Cypres, but I love
the FR as a do-it-all tire

Franklyn

On Jun 15, 4:10 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 15:46 -0700, Gino Zahnd wrote:
  Well if one were budget-minded or budget-impaired, one could purchase
  plush 650b tires for less than $20 (CDLV). They don't offer the same
  performance, but they do get you there in comfort, and last this side
  of forever. It's mostly that context that I was speaking to.

 Well, here we are in complete agreement.  CdlVs do last a long time and
 hold up well in poor conditions, and they're a real bargain.  I switched
 my Saluki to Hetres, but the new P/R, which will be built as a
 porteur/city bike is getting CdlVs.
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[RBW] Re: Installing a Tubus Luna rack

2009-06-15 Thread 40_Acres

Patrick,

I think the Luna is pretty similar to the Fly, but in stainless rather
than tubular chrome-moly.  Interesting that you were able to get the
strut to fit w/o using the steel tab / cutting.  On my frame (57cm
with 700c wheels), the strut containing tube is only a few inches
from the brake mount.


On Jun 15, 7:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wayne has excellent prices and service, judging from my one encounter with
 him.
 I mounted my last two Flys without bothering to use the steel tab; I just
 bent the aluminum strut in a vise. And, the strut will slide considerably
 into and out of its containing rack tube, so I didn't find it necessary to
 trim it.

 How does the Luna compare to the Fly?



 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:43 AM, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've wanted to install a narrow-profile, pannier-compatible rack like
  the Tubus Fly or Luna for commuting on my AHH, but was worried about
  fitment with that mono-stay.  It seemed like a shame to let those seat
  stay braze-ons go to waste, and bending and cutting the mono-stay to
  fit was pretty intimidating.  I bought a Luna from Wayne at
  TheTouringStore.com (who is great, by the way), and then stared at it
  for a couple of weeks.  I considered bringing it to one of the local
  bike shops, but then last night I just went for it.  Installation
  wasn't nearly as bad as I thought.  The rack comes with a steel tab
  that you can use to bridge the aluminum mono-stay to the rear brake
  bolt.  This tab comes slightly pre-bent, so it's easy to finish the
  job.  I clamped it in a vice by the wide end, and pounded the narrow
  end to 90 degrees.  Easy.  I then unbolted the rear brake, removed the
  last aluminum spacer (behind the thin fender mount), and replaced it
  with the 90 degree tab.    Then I mounted the rack to the second set
  of eyelets on the rear dropouts (using the included black aluminum
  spacers to avoid interfering with the fender stays), tilted the rack
  level, and kind of eye-balled what how much the aluminum mono-stay
  would have to be bent and cut.  I took off about 4 inches with a
  hacksaw, clamped resized mono-stay in the vice, and bent it.  Held it
  up to the rack / 90 degree tab, then clamped it in the vice again and
  bent it a little more.  Perfect.  I sanded the edges of the cut stay,
  installed it, and done.  Not nearly as bad as I thought, and the whole
  process took about 1 hr.  I'll post pictures later.

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