[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
I'm really thinking a IGH is a great way to go with kids. Only a single shifter, and nothing for them to break (relatively). I have a Nexus 7 on a 650b rim just waiting to go on a bike! DE On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Gary g...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Hello Horace, They are a bit big for her but she's a fairly determined child. For braking she mostly uses the interupters. When she shifts you can see her reach her fingertips out to engage the brifters. It's not ideal but it works fine for her. She turned eight in December and got the bike for Xmas. She's growing and it is certainly easier for her now than six months age when she got the bike. Gary On Jun 24, 12:19 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Sorry, I meant the brifters. I know a lot of people with small hands who have trouble with conventional STI levers, and I wondered if this was a version for small hands, but only sold on bikes such as this. Horace. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: They are interupter brakes like many cyclocross bike set ups. Most of the kids road bikes are equipped this way from Trek, Specialized, Felt, and Argon16. The Trek and Specialized kids road bikes just stopped production. Felt and Argon are still available. I purchased my daughters Trek on Ebay for close to 300. like new. So they are out there. She loves her road bike. The picture is from this past winters Stagecoach Century where she did the 26 mile loop. She's 8. Gary On Jun 24, 6:43 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Interesting! Are those special brake levers for small hands? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-7215762... Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :) http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
flickr to the rescue! On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: on 6/24/09 9:14 PM, relistan at relis...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, sorry, I didn't see Moots anywhere in the first post and the name doesn't mean anything to me, anyway, so seeing one of the bikes in the photo with that name didn't speak to me. :) I get it now. When I was at Rivendell I saw nothing there but Rivendells to answer your question. For those folks who haven't been to Walnut Creek, there are a few RBWHQL photos in the RBW Staff Bikes Flickr Group - http://www.flickr.com/groups/rbwstaffbikes/ - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
While not shots of staff bikes, here are a couple of shots I took at Rivendell when I was there in 2007. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lVFA-JOlfx8/Ryff4jUtB6I/ADs/Ahm2nHlBE3Q/s800/dsc_4388.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lVFA-JOlfx8/RyffpTUtB5I/ADk/ZmRyqP_Ukyc/s800/dsc_4387.jpg Cheers, Karl On Jun 24, 11:19 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: flickr to the rescue! On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: on 6/24/09 9:14 PM, relistan at relis...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, sorry, I didn't see Moots anywhere in the first post and the name doesn't mean anything to me, anyway, so seeing one of the bikes in the photo with that name didn't speak to me. :) I get it now. When I was at Rivendell I saw nothing there but Rivendells to answer your question. For those folks who haven't been to Walnut Creek, there are a few RBWHQL photos in the RBW Staff Bikes Flickr Group - http://www.flickr.com/groups/rbwstaffbikes/ - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
On Jun 24, 11:15 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: As for the original post, there would appear to be 3 Surly's, the seemingly bike-shop employee standard... inexpensive, mostly practical, and readily available. Ken - can you elaborate on mostly practical? I don't own a surly, just curious as to why a bike like a cross-check, LHT or pacer wouldn't be considered fully practical. thanks, Patrick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Jun 24, 11:15 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: As for the original post, there would appear to be 3 Surly's, the seemingly bike-shop employee standard... inexpensive, mostly practical, and readily available. Ken - can you elaborate on mostly practical? I don't own a surly, just curious as to why a bike like a cross-check, LHT or pacer wouldn't be considered fully practical. thanks, Well, I bet he means mostly practical in that they are also partially fun. :) -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Broken Fender
Michael - Thanks for the photos. I hadn't known you were cantilevered. Great bike BTW. What has Hiroshi had to say about the fenders? I have to be careful not to bring my credit cards with me when I go to his shop. Very nice frames. Phil B On Jun 24, 9:15 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: This bike has canti brakes and a bottom threaded seat stay bridge, you can kind of see it in the last picture in this set:http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100029 Since the crack is still quite small I have been thinking along the lines that John suggested, using either a small steel bracket on either side of the hole, or perhaps cutting a section out of the original fender. In either case I'll try Gorilla glue to avoid making any additional holes in the fender. My daughter is getting married on Saturday, so this might not happen right away. Thanks for the suggestions, Michael On Jun 24, 11:15 am, Phil B phi...@sonic.net wrote: Michael - I am unsure of the setup on your bike. Is the bridge threaded for the mounting bolt? Being on the seat stays, does the rear brake mount to the same bridge? I've had good results using rubber washers on both sides of the fender with an additional metal washer on the inside of the fender under the nut. I also setup my honjos with tension, as in no possibility of rattleing. But, I run fenders for only 4 months a year and don't generally ride a lot of jaw dropping bumpy surfaces. Phil B On Jun 23, 6:56 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed some unusual rattling from my rear Honjo fender today, and a close inspection revealed a crack at the seat stay bridge attachment. This one threads directly into the bridge. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: marks rack / do you have an un-needed mounting bracket?
You might try your LBS. Most popular racks employ similar stainless straps. Mine came with the bracket to the brake bolt and the two rod arms for braze-on mounting. On Jun 25, 3:59 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Might be wrong, but I'm not sure it came with two flat brackets - only the brake bolt version. VO sells a length of flat stainless for just that purpose that would work, and it's only a few bucks. It has two holes drilled at the ends, but you can bend and drill as needed, which it sounds like you'll need to do in any case. I've looked myself at various hdwr stores, but the stainless they sell is too thin. Hope that helps. Marty On Jun 24, 8:42 pm, rb ronald.blument...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - I am moving a Mark's rack from one bike to anotherI need the flat bracket that goes from the rack to underneath the fork crown (I have the bracket that goes to the brake bolt). I know it came with that, I've installed 3 of these on various bikes, but I can't find one of the flat brackets in any of my various bins... So I am hoping that there is someone out there who might have one sitting around and would be willing to part with it I did make up an ugly one from some galvanized flat stock, but it's a poke in the eye - would be nice to have the proper fitting. I can't mount to the brake bolt on this bike because it's an undrilled fork / canti posts, but no hole (an odd frame to be sure). many thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Romulus rack suggestions
Nitto Bigs, front and back, if you have the money. Strong; versatile; shelves and side supports. They can handle almost any challenge. Z From: nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:35:28 PM Subject: [RBW] Romulus rack suggestions Soon I'll be doing a week long tour on a 57cm Romulus. I'm trying to decide which racks (and panniers) to go for. I haven't calculated how much weight I'll be carrying, but it'll probably be no more than 30 pounds in back (in panniers; tent, food, clothes, toiletries) and sleeping bag / misc. in the front? I'm guessing the Romulus is not intended for heavy front loads, but I could be wrong. I'm leaning towards a Mark's Rack or VO Randonneur in front and a Tubus Luna in back (I dig the Luna's minimal design). Or possibly a Tubus Cosmo or a Nitto Big Back Rack? What would you suggest? Thanks, Nathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Romulus rack suggestions
I would imagine that the Rom would get noodly if you put a lot of weight on the front, which you will discover if you brake while going downhill. I found this to be the case with my Atlantis, and I think it has a lot to do with a 1 steerer being somewhat flexy under such circumstances. But with a small rack, you could, for example, strap a 5-lb tent across the top, and it would be ok, For rear racks, I think the Surly Nice Racks are unbeatable. For racks On Jun 24, 9:35 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: Soon I'll be doing a week long tour on a 57cm Romulus. I'm trying to decide which racks (and panniers) to go for. I haven't calculated how much weight I'll be carrying, but it'll probably be no more than 30 pounds in back (in panniers; tent, food, clothes, toiletries) and sleeping bag / misc. in the front? I'm guessing the Romulus is not intended for heavy front loads, but I could be wrong. I'm leaning towards a Mark's Rack or VO Randonneur in front and a Tubus Luna in back (I dig the Luna's minimal design). Or possibly a Tubus Cosmo or a Nitto Big Back Rack? What would you suggest? Thanks, Nathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: A slight change in style
Quickbeam looks really nice, Rocky. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
Somewhere in the original post, maybe when you clicked on the link, it said it was the Moots factory. I admit to being a little confused at first too. I have a similar experience with bike shop employees/ owners; they either ride old steel road bikes, Surlys, or steel Lemonds. Now that the Lemonds are gone, that really leaves Surly. I think it is hard not to admire Surly, and Grant has said as much himself. How can you not like a company that makes good, steel, practical bikes? Most of the people I know who are die hard racers and ride $10,000 carbon also have a Surly. Cheers! cm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
A lot of racing-style riders use Excel and Colorado Cyclist as a source for racing parts, and one of those catalogs, maybe both, sells Surly frames and bikes, so many of those riders are probably in the know about Surly through that. Or is it that Surly began marketing in those catalogs because there was already an interest from that type of rider? Which came first? -Original Message- From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com Sent: Jun 25, 2009 11:49 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes Somewhere in the original post, maybe when you clicked on the link, it said it was the Moots factory. I admit to being a little confused at first too. I have a similar experience with bike shop employees/ owners; they either ride old steel road bikes, Surlys, or steel Lemonds. Now that the Lemonds are gone, that really leaves Surly. I think it is hard not to admire Surly, and Grant has said as much himself. How can you not like a company that makes good, steel, practical bikes? Most of the people I know who are die hard racers and ride $10,000 carbon also have a Surly. Cheers! cm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Velo Orange locking skewers on sale
I was looking for a set of locking skewers to protect my new Rich- built wheels and didn't like the look of most of them. Chris at Velo Orange just got in an order and mis-spec'ed them so that they only fit frames with 135mm rear spacing. For we Rivendell riders that's usually fine, and they're on sale for $12. Just thought I'd pass it along. http://www.velo-orange.com/voansk.html Cheers, Karl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Help with bottle dynamo clamp
UPS just delivered a very nice bottle dynamo, Lumotec halogen retro lamp, and little bitty SJS mounting clamp, that I recently bought from a Bob. But I was mistaken and didn't realize that the clamp in question required a braze on. So, here is my question: What is the cheapest way to get a reliable clamp for this generator, either fork or stay? Looks don't matter. I could attach the clamp to the fork let with an auto hose clamp; d'ya think that would be secure enough? Thanks. Would rather not spend more if I can help it. BTW: no complaints at all about the purchase; I got the complete (except as described) kit at a very large discount off retail at SJS. Note that this bottle is the one SJS used to recommend as best until something else took its place. It's quite a step up from your Sanyo or Union, and I am looking forward to using it. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Help with bottle dynamo clamp
On Jun 25, 1:52 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What is the cheapest way to get a reliable clamp for this generator you might be able to fashion something like this fairly easily with some scrap - http://www.velo-orange.com/spdyorlibr.html I used the spanniga bracket on my partner's bike, and she's happy with it - http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267...@n02/2928182782/in/set-72157607889233894/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
Well, I happen to own a Surly Steamroller. Bought the frame/fork from Jim over at Hiawatha to use up some left over parts that I had left over once my Quickbeam was destroyed. It's not very practical at all, though I have managed to fit it with 32mm tires and Berthoud fenders. So, I guess it's just barely impractical :) I happen to like Surly bikes a lot, I'd much prefer a Rivendell, which is why I own 3 Rivendells and only 1 Surly. On Jun 25, 7:53 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Jun 24, 11:15 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: As for the original post, there would appear to be 3 Surly's, the seemingly bike-shop employee standard... inexpensive, mostly practical, and readily available. Ken - can you elaborate on mostly practical? I don't own a surly, just curious as to why a bike like a cross-check, LHT or pacer wouldn't be considered fully practical. thanks, Patrick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
I have an affinity for riding gravel. Logged quite a few miles on Pasela TG 700x35's, Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 700x42, and the Jack Brown greens. The Pasela's in the range of 50-60psi are my favorites. I seldom really pay much attention to tire pressure. The Marathon Supremes never lived up to my hopes for a bigger version of the Paselas. Despite their comparatively narrow width, the Jack Browns handle wonderfully on gravel. Having logged hundreds of miles on crushed limestone, I find that conditions vary. Traction is seldom an issue, certainly not enough to justify entertaining any thoughts about using a tire with any tread design. Mostly, gravel roads are lightly traveled and it's plenty safe to ride in the one of the 3 tread lines that seem to develop. (3 because it seems everyone driving on gravel tends to hug a bit of the center line and the middle of the road gets shared by both lanes) I would think that it would depend upon where you are in Vermont as to what kind of gravel conditions you might find. There seemed to be a lot of different type of rock used for road construction material. On Jun 25, 4:47 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Tires for Gravel
I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 14:47 -0700, GeorgeS wrote: I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? 37mm Paselas? They're about the same width as the Col de la Vie in 650B, and that's very pleasant on gravel. A goal should be to keep inflation pressure down to 50 psi or even less. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order
Mine was delivered today. Very nice! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
Jack Brown blues have taken me over gravel and more comfortably. I remember reading somewhere from JimG that 35mm Paselas w/o Tourguard approximated the cush of 650B pretty well. I wonder if the TG really makes a difference? On Jun 25, 3:29 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 14:47 -0700, GeorgeS wrote: I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? 37mm Paselas? They're about the same width as the Col de la Vie in 650B, and that's very pleasant on gravel. A goal should be to keep inflation pressure down to 50 psi or even less. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen
So I wanted to post a quick note and follow up on the previous thread. I received my restock of lapel pins and have everyone taken care of who pre-ordered them. Thank you very much for the support, and keep the pictures coming. We also got a quickie blog put together for some caffeinated fun. http://tinyurl.com/nmedr3 If you have cafe reviews or just some fun tales drop me a line. We are cooking up some other goodies too that will debut on the blog. If you want a pin drop me line. They are $6/pc up to 2, 3 or more add a buck to the total for shipping. The envelopes bump to the next postage tier. Keep caffeinated! Brad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
CdVs at about 50 psi? From: GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Tires for Gravel Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order
ditto. Very nice quality leather trim. Hanging on the Saluki even as we speak From: d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:49:53 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order Mine was delivered today. Very nice! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order
I'm jealous. Missed out on the tweed. Would have been nice to carry a camera on front without taking up a lot of space. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 25, 7:26�pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: ditto. Very nice quality leather trim. Hanging on the Saluki even as we speak From: d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:49:53 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order Mine was delivered today. Very nice! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
Does TG really make a difference? I'll say no. The TG adds weight but in my experience doesn't do anything for added flat protection. YMMV. I'm fine with the basic Pasela, currently running 35's on my tour bike, 50-60 PSI with a full load on gravel roads. Phil Roberts Chandler, AZ On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Jack Brown blues have taken me over gravel and more comfortably. I remember reading somewhere from JimG that 35mm Paselas w/o Tourguard approximated the cush of 650B pretty well. I wonder if the TG really makes a difference? On Jun 25, 3:29 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 14:47 -0700, GeorgeS wrote: I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? 37mm Paselas? They're about the same width as the Col de la Vie in 650B, and that's very pleasant on gravel. A goal should be to keep inflation pressure down to 50 psi or even less. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order
Me too. It's great. I can't believe it was considered a wrongly made bag (although I understand what they meant by that). They should make this one of the staple handlebar bags. I have the new bag on the handlebar of the Ram and the tweed mini-loafer in the rear. It's a good set-up for long S24 rides. On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Bruce wrote: ditto. Very nice quality leather trim. Hanging on the Saluki even as we speak From: d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:49:53 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order Mine was delivered today. Very nice! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
on 6/25/09 2:47 PM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? Jack Brown Greens have become my favorite tire. On my commute home, I can loop out and pick up some singletrack, which is typical mid-Cal trail conditions with smooth dirt with bumps and fist sized rocks embedded in the surface. Plus, they've done very well on the network of fire roads, which are semi-graded dirt surfaces. Before those existed, I was pretty happy with 32 mm Paselas. If I need a little gription, I'll run a 35 mm cross (treaded for cyclocross) tire. They all end up with a fair bit of deflection when I press my thumb directly in from the tread (not pinching the sidewalls). However, I'd say that if you are bouncing around, you might want to experiment a little bit with pressures. That's usually an indicator that the pressure you are running is not letting the suspension (tires) do its thing. I'm not sure what the size of the GB tires is (RT's are 28's, right?). Running 28 mm tires a bit softer tended to generate a fair number of pinch flats for me. For my riding style, size and conditions, 32 - 35 seems to be a good place. hope that helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Three T-shirts Now Available: I've Got Downtube Shifters... S/S T-shirt Cyclocross - More Cowbell L/S T-shirt One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff SHIPPING FOR FREE IN THE CONUS through July! Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
I have been using 38mm Maxxis Overdrive tires on my touring bike for several years. Bought them to ride the sandy/gravel roads of the UP. They do well on gravel and no flats ever. They do not however provide a soft ride. After reading many opinions think I will try some Paselas non TG. Steve Hemmelgarn --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 8:34 PM On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 17:26 -0700, Bruce wrote: CdVs at about 50 psi? In other words, you are suggesting a 650B conversion? In that case, why not go all the way: Hetres. 42mm of pure gravel road bliss! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
When there were no Quickbeams to be found, I settled for a Surly Steamroller with 32 tires. I was surprised at how much fun it was and half the price of the Quickbeam. That makes it easier to use for errands around town and leave it locked up out side. Jim D. Mass. --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:43 PM Well, I happen to own a Surly Steamroller. Bought the frame/fork from Jim over at Hiawatha to use up some left over parts that I had left over once my Quickbeam was destroyed. It's not very practical at all, though I have managed to fit it with 32mm tires and Berthoud fenders. So, I guess it's just barely impractical :) I happen to like Surly bikes a lot, I'd much prefer a Rivendell, which is why I own 3 Rivendells and only 1 Surly. On Jun 25, 7:53 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Jun 24, 11:15 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: As for the original post, there would appear to be 3 Surly's, the seemingly bike-shop employee standard... inexpensive, mostly practical, and readily available. Ken - can you elaborate on mostly practical? I don't own a surly, just curious as to why a bike like a cross-check, LHT or pacer wouldn't be considered fully practical. thanks, Patrick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Romulus rack suggestions
The Tubus Luna is a great rack for day-to-day use. I've been commuting with mine for years, and it holds up well. I've also taken it on short tours, and found that it works adequately; but since it's narrower on top than conventional racks, there's less of a platform to strap stuff on. Also, conventional trunk bags won't work with it. Horace. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:35 PM, nathan spindel wrote: Soon I'll be doing a week long tour on a 57cm Romulus. I'm trying to decide which racks (and panniers) to go for. I haven't calculated how much weight I'll be carrying, but it'll probably be no more than 30 pounds in back (in panniers; tent, food, clothes, toiletries) and sleeping bag / misc. in the front? I'm guessing the Romulus is not intended for heavy front loads, but I could be wrong. I'm leaning towards a Mark's Rack or VO Randonneur in front and a Tubus Luna in back (I dig the Luna's minimal design). Or possibly a Tubus Cosmo or a Nitto Big Back Rack? What would you suggest? Thanks, Nathan [] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fw: Employee bikes
On Jun 25, 4:43 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I happen to own a Surly Steamroller. It's not very practical at all, though I have managed to fit it with 32mm tires and Berthoud fenders. i see. well, surely you weren't expecting the steamroller to be mostly practical, somewhat practical, or even just practical ;) I actually like that about surly - there are some real options in its line-up. quasi-track, road, cx/all-rounder, touring, 29er, extracycle, ss travel, etc. smart bikes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: 58cm QB
Few years old, bought it on Ebay in January. The frame is in great shape. Selling this semi-complete, included: Frame and fork (headset of course) Suzue hub wheelset with flip flop White Industries 16/18 freewheel Panaracer Pasela tourguards 35mm Crankset (42/34 with a Salsa chainguard on the large ring spot) with MKS grip king pedals Tektro canti brakes Nitto rack Picture here: http://tinyurl.com/m3kks9 As pictured basically, minus the saddle, seatpost, stem and handlebars. As listed I'll ask $1250. Buyer to pay shipping. We can subtract items from the build as necessary to reach a sale. Or I'll trade for a 58cm Saluki... Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
Yep, Pasela 35 or 37 are fine on gravel, but the sidewalls are a touch delicate. Marathons might be a better choice for lots and lots of gravel, especially if it's sharp like crushed cinder (railroad bed type) rock. Cheers, DE On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:30 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Another vote for Pasela tires. Like Ken they work well for me. I keep the pressure higher Mainly due to my weight. At 50 or so, I risk pinch flats. I'm also more used to the slightly skittish feeling with higher pressure. I've ridden regular Schwalbe Marathon tires on dirt. And they work. Big caveats follow - they were on a Brompton and the dirt was the CO Canal Trail on the Georgetown end. Eric Platt On Jun 25, 5:07�pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I have an affinity for riding gravel. Logged quite a few miles on Pasela TG 700x35's, Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 700x42, and the Jack Brown greens. �The Pasela's in the range of 50-60psi are my favorites. �I seldom really pay much attention to tire pressure. �The Marathon Supremes never lived up to my hopes for a bigger version of the Paselas. �Despite their comparatively narrow width, the Jack Browns handle wonderfully on gravel. Having logged hundreds of miles on crushed limestone, I find that conditions vary. �Traction is seldom an issue, certainly not enough to justify entertaining any thoughts about using a tire with any tread design. �Mostly, gravel roads are lightly traveled and it's plenty safe to ride in the one of the 3 tread lines that seem to develop. �(3 because it seems everyone driving on gravel tends to hug a bit of the center line and the middle of the road gets shared by both lanes) I would think that it would depend upon where you are in Vermont as to what kind of gravel conditions you might find. �There seemed to be a lot of different type of rock used for road construction material. On Jun 25, 4:47�pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. �Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. �Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. �One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. �I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. �Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? �Jack Browns? �Fatty somethings? GeorgeS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
