[RBW] Re: Albatross hunting!
It was a bit spendier than Riv lists it for, but I don't mind kicking a few bucks to the old LBS from time to time. Believe me, this has nothing to do with your LBS charging top-dollar and laughing all the way to the bank. Riv has long been one of the larger (if not largest) seller of Nitto items in the US, and has a longstanding relationship with that company, buying direct from the manufacturer, etc. Your LBS likely buys Nitto through one of a handful of US distributors, where, because of the extra middleman or middlewoman, the wholesale price is close to what Riv is charging at the retail level. Your LBS is in the difficult position of either selling at or barely above wholesale and not making any money, selling at profitable margins and having people (if they actually buy the item) feel like either they got a raw deal or had to pay extra to support the local business, or not selling the stuff at all. None of these options is attractive, but those of us who carry Nitto stuff in any variety try to find some middle ground, and are happy that these items exist and that Riv helps make them somewhat popular. I'm not digging on Riv for underhandedly undercutting on price or anything. Just saying that they are in a position to offer a better price on most Nitto items, most of the time, which makes it hard for your LBS to compete on price. On Oct 11, 6:28 pm, Devin Chalmers de...@doormouse.org wrote: Thanks for the tips, everyone. I am pleased to report that through the good graces of City Bikes co-op the ornery Albatross has been subdued and placed into custody:http://img.skitch.com/20091011-fbqa14hts3fjfw23adtya47g6r.jpg (I can also testify that an Albatross around your neck isn't so bad after all, though this one was technically over my shoulder.) It was a bit spendier than Riv lists it for, but I don't mind kicking a few bucks to the old LBS from time to time. City Bikes are awesome anyway. For anyone in the Portland area, they are very helpful, and stock tons of Nitto steel and fairly gobs of really cheap used bric-a- brac. Ever closer cometh the Quickbeam... devin On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:38 PM, qwzybug wrote: Hello! I'm a new Rivendeller (Rivendling?), living in Portland. SF friend Will's Reader no. 40 absolutely seduced me with its absolute sensibility and (for lack of a better term) pure class. I arranged a deal with my cousin in LA to trade my car for some bikebuilding funds, picked up a 68cm Quickbeam frame on eBay, and am currently just bleeding money trying to outfit the thing. Long story, but here's the upshot: I'm taken with the Albatross bars, and Rivendell is currently out-of-stock of the steel ones. (I'm a big dude, and I can use every cm of width and ounce of chromoly I can get.) And, naturally, Rivendell is fresh out of 'em. Do any of you have a steel Albatross to spare? I'd greatly appreciate it. If you're in Portland or Seattle (or heck, even the bay area, but that'd postpone my first ride by precious weeks), I could even come pick it up myself. I can assure you it's going to a good home, and will be blanketed in shellac, pseudocork tape, and ding-dong bells in nothing flat. Thanks, Devin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: small front rack
Well, the RBW web-site suggests that it might work with the M12; but it looks to me as if the Platrack expects to be bolted to its base rack (in the very front and on the sides towards the rear of the rack). I don't have any receptors for such bolts on my M12. The Mark's Rack and the Mini do. Now perhaps I'm misinterpreting the web-site photos. Or perhaps the rack doesn't *have* to be bolted. Or perhaps there are other ways of accomplishing the same goal (hose clamps? that's how I attach my Wald basket to my M12). It seems strange to me that RBW doesn't embrace the M12 more than they do. Even though they've chosen not to sell it I think it strange that they don't even have one to play with so as to answer authoritatIvely questions just like this one. The small Sackville TrunkSack and the various Li'l Loafers fit it perfectly. (When I asked RBW about whether the Li'l Loafers would fit my M12 they honestly told me they weren't sure.) I've read on the web that there are bikes with canti-stud/fork crown arrangements that don't work with the M12. Ironically the example given was the LHT; at least one LHT owner on the web claims to have made it work with just a little bending. Perhaps the RBW canti-stud/fork crown arrangents don't work well enough with the M12. Or perhaps they don't think it's versatile enough ( i. e. it makes no sense w/o canti-studs and it won't go on the back of any bike I've seen, there are no bolt holes close to the platform). The M12, along with the domed nuts/double-threaded brake bolts you can get at VO, Ben's Cycles, and some other places (now including RBW; the new Highrider can use them), is a super clean-looking rack. That feature comes at the cost of some versatility. But where it works (which is not rare), it works very well. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 11, 9:49 pm, mizrachi mizrachi1...@gmail.com wrote: Is it for sure that the Platrack will definitely NOT fit on a Nitto M12? On Oct 11, 9:32 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: If you have cantis the M12 is a very clean mount. Some RBW bikes have fork braze-ons that allow mounting the Mini without any clamps. The RBW models that have cantis and the braze-ons can use either rack very well, but I would probably go with the Mini unless I had other plans for the mid-fork mounts. If all you have are the hole in your fork crown (probably occupied by a brake bolt) and dropout eyelets, the Velo-Orange Constucteur is the cleanest mounting non-custom rack that I am aware of. Hope the helps :^) Doug P.S. I believe if you want to use the Platrack you are locked into the Mini or Mark's rack... On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, mizrachi mizrachi1...@gmail.com wrote: Aside from the way they mount, are there any other significant differences between the nitto m12 and the rivendell nitto mini? Also, are there other similar small front racks that might be as effective as either of these two? Basically, I'm in the market for a small front rack for s40h overnights and would love some recommendations for a rack that could hold a wald basket or mark's platrack or a bungeed sleeping bag and the like. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: canti brakes
Hi Seth, Another option here: My commuter/cross bike had Avid Shorty 6 brakes when I bought it - very similar to the BR550s. They stopped pretty well but squealed and shuddered badly. I tried a lot of different things - different pads, toe-in adjustments, different straddle cables, help from the LBS etc. I could minimize the problem but not eliminate it, and even when I got it to a minimum, it took a lot of fiddling to keep it there. I replaced the brakes with the new design Shorty 6s - the ones that are kind of triangular-shaped, as opposed to the lever-arm design of the older Shorty 6s and the BR550s. Problem Solved! I know that there is a bunch of alchemy involved with brake squeal - harmonics, fork flex, pad compound et al, but this change solved the problem for me. Stock pads, normal toe-in. The stopping power of the new design seems to be somewhat less than the old ones, but I considered this to be a minimal trade-off. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Pair of Roly Polys $25
Used, but not used up. Bought them slightly used, tried them out for a few hundred miles, switching back to Paselas. Pair of 700x28. No cuts or other damage. Price includes shipping in the CONUS. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Shimano Cassette $40 Shipped
8-speed HG, 11-28. Wanted a 9-speed, got this by mistake. Brand spanking new in the package. $40 shipped in the CONUS. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] riv vapor barriers
hi all i bought the wiggy's sleeping bag and love it, but the vapor barrier gives me the willies just touching it.that stretchy plastic feel just gives me the creeps. have any of you bought the vapor barrier from riv. im wondering if it is worth suffering through the weird feel if it really works. i doubt ill ever be camping below freezing anyway. so maybe i dont need it. thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: canti brakes
I've always preferred the old full post style canti for their adjustability. My favorite has been the vintage Shimano BR-MC70 from the early 80's. Super adjustable(also good for 27 to 700c conversions), high powered and no squealing whatever pads I use. Some rear XC Pros with Ritchey(kool-stops) pads started squealing early in the year on one of my bikes, and despite my best efforts I couldn't get them to stop. So I throw on a pair of the MC-70 with their 25 year old pads and problem solved. Better stopping power too. These brakes also came stock on my Stumpjumper Sport and I always loved them for that bike . so I got a second pair of the MC-70's this winter for a song. I'm glad I did too. So . I have to wonder about all these pads marketed for squealing brakes. is it really the pads, or is it design of the brake? There's no absolutes but it's obvious to me the brake design is paramount. I've used various pads with my Stumpjumper over the years and none have squealed. The Ritcheys are/were supposed to be great for squeals but that didn't prove to be for me. A pair of the BR-MC-70 always pops up on ebay, they're nothing fancy to look at, and are inexpensive they just work. As far as new brakes . I don't know how you find a really good one, other than trial and error. Cantilevers will always be a challenge to set up because of the nature of having two independent brakes converging on the rim and cantilever mounts are often far from perfectly brazed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cleaning Old tubular rims
I just cleaned an old pair with a rotary drill and a circular wire brush attachment. The glue was very old and hard so it came off very well. No solvent to worry about, just dust. On Oct 11, 11:06 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best way to get old, dried glue off a tubular rim? I've got some wheels from back in the day that I want to use with a 74 Raleigh Pro that I'm putting together. When my racing days were over, these things went in the attic w/o a thought to cleaning them. George Strickler New Orleans --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: canti brakes
Lots of ideas here, and they're all right...sometimes. Paul cantis can squeal with the best of 'em. Cheap Shimano Altus cantis can work great with no squealing. So much of it depends on seemingly trivial details, and what works on one bike may not work on another. At a shop I worked at some years ago, we tried numerous adjustments, and every brake and pad we could find (even tried the pads backwards), on an otherwise really nice IF cross bike. Frustrated, we even tried a different rim/ wheel, and no luck. It was so bad as to be almost unrideable (when the ft brake was applied). We ultimately concluded that there was something about the fork that caused the squealing. As far as I know, that bike has a squeaky brake still today... But one generality that I can offer, which seems to be contrary to popular opinion, is that Kool Stop Salmon pads are NOT the answer to squealing, in general. I actually quit carrying the Kool Stop pads because I thought their fabled superior stopping power was mostly hype (at least here in the mostly flat, usually dry part of the country), and the finickiness with squealing was a common problem. Now we use budget Tektro pads that we can buy in bulk (no individual packaging to waste), which are, IME, as good as any, and seem to be fine on most brakes on most bikes. On Oct 11, 12:50 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a set of the shiman br550's on my bike right now and I'm not terribly pleased with them. They've been fairly persnickety to setup and there's lots of annoying brake squeal from the front one. I'm curious if maybe I should consider getting a set of the paul touring cantis, the tektros or the ird's? Any comments one way or the other? I'm a little curious how easy any of these are to setup and get 'right' since my experience with the shimano's is not great. I also have an old set of mafac tandem cantis that I took off an old gitane frame. I guess I could pop those on. Any thoughts? Thanks, -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Roly Polys Sold
On their way to a new home ... --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: canti brakes
One thing I didn't see mentioned is making sure the pads are equidistant from the rim. If one pad is firmly against the rim but the other isn't it will make a racket until you squeeze harder - then it stops. On Oct 11, 10:50 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a set of the shiman br550's on my bike right now and I'm not terribly pleased with them. They've been fairly persnickety to setup and there's lots of annoying brake squeal from the front one. I'm curious if maybe I should consider getting a set of the paul touring cantis, the tektros or the ird's? Any comments one way or the other? I'm a little curious how easy any of these are to setup and get 'right' since my experience with the shimano's is not great. I also have an old set of mafac tandem cantis that I took off an old gitane frame. I guess I could pop those on. Any thoughts? Thanks, -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Clipless Pedals
I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
For short errands around town, I use my Town Bike with flat pedals. For everything, various flavors of clipless pedals. I've been gravitating of late to Crank Brothers Eggbeaters, which let me use shoes that I can easily walk in. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:50 AM, 40_Acres wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
Same here. Gripkings on the commuter and eggbeaters for longer rides. Eric Norris wrote: For short errands around town, I use my Town Bike with flat pedals. For everything, various flavors of clipless pedals. I've been gravitating of late to Crank Brothers Eggbeaters, which let me use shoes that I can easily walk in. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:50 AM, 40_Acres wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On all my bikes accept one I have gone to the Shimano A520 pedals. I think it is a good looking pedal on a lugged steel bike. It is also an SPD pedal so I can wear a mountain shoe that is much more comfortable for walking in. On my commuter I am using a Shimano M324 which are flat on one side and SPD on the other. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:50:39 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Clipless Pedals From: mgla...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
Both of my currently active bicycles have Time ATAC pedals, which i use on 95% of my rides. Now that my commute is ~15 miles instead 4ish, i wear cycling clothing and carry and change of clothes and the shoes are part of that- I leave my chaco sandals in my office to change into. I've also recently found that the older models of ATAC have slightly bulkier bodies and are easy to pedal in street shoes for short range trips. When i lived in the city with a shorter commute, my commuter bike just had toe clips as i would wear my street shoes for the commute. I always use clipless pedals for long rides- having a stiff soled shoe really helps my ginormous feet avoid cramping. On Oct 12, 11:50 am, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 11:50 -0700, 40_Acres wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? It isn't heresy to use clipless pedals. Neither clips straps nor platform pedals are a new orthodoxy I use a BMX platform pedal on my errand bike, but everything else has SPDs. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
When I set up my first real bike 3 years ago, I used MKS Touring pedals. Love 'em, but after 30 or so miles, my right foot would be numb. A friend suggested SPDs so I could actually walk in the shoes (at least to go into a convenience store without falling on my ass). He also felt that cycling shoes makes your pedal stroke more efficient and that it might alleviate the numbness because the force of the stroke is being spread out over a larger area than just the pedal surface. So I decided to try Shimano A530s - SPD on one side and platform on the other - because I wanted to be able to ride without the shoes. I must say that they are great. I like being clipped in, and actually do pull on the upstroke going up hills. I keep the tension on the looser side, which makes quick escapes easy, but not so loose that the cleats will come unclipped while pedaling. I moved the MKS over to my commuting bike, as I don't like using the clipless pedals in traffic so much. Call me a heretic, I suppose. Steve On Oct 12, 2009, at 2:50 PM, 40_Acres wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? I jettisoned the Dura Aces on my gofast, the 959s on my commuter, and the 540s (I think) on the mtb for clips and straps, this about two years ago, and I was quite happy for a while. I used indoor Soccer shoes on the MTB and nice old Sidis with slotted cleats on the gofast. But recently I've gone back to clipless on the mtb and the gofast, for these reasons: MTB: I often have to start off in sand, and this means I need very quick entry. Although getting into straps is no big deal in other situations, I find SPDs even faster, and I do like SPDs, of all the mtb systems I've tried (basically, Grafton, Frogs, and various SPD clones). Gofast: the slotted cleats do migrate sideways; and I always have a hotspot on my left foot which is, I think, due to a pronated foot. I recently got a cheap and very nice pair of Shimano road shoes, and they felt very comfortable, so instead of trying to get them to work with the problematical Yellow Jersey slotted cleats, I went back to Looks which, of all clipless pedals, are, for me, noticeably more comfortable thanks to their big platform. They also feel more comfortable than the Sidis. I also like their very positive click-in. On the Riv commuter and the Motobecane grocery fixies, I keep the track pedals for use with my usual leather slip-ons with stiff leather insoles. On the occasional Schwinn Sprint grocery bike, I use rubber block pedals; but I shall sell that if anyone wants it. I may go back to the slotted cleats on the gofast; the difference between the Sidis + track pedals and the Shimanos + Looks is not huge. But for not, I am enjoying the nice, solid feel of the Looks. FWIW, I never found clipping into straps any problem, even on fixed gears (all my road bikes are fixed gears). I tighten the left strap and leave just enough wiggle room in the right that I can both insert my foot, and yank my foot out in an emergency, without releasing the buckle. On the commuters, with street shoes, I keep both straps snuggish but not binding, and this is tight enough to add retention but loose enough to allow entry and egress. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? I use MKS Touring or Grip Kings on my daily commuter and 3-speed. My road bike (the Redwood), and mountain bike always have eggbeaters. For racing and sloppy or long rides, i like the security of having the shoes attached, otherwise i don't like to change shoes for short errands -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I have tried several times to switch from clipless to MKS Touring pedals, and every time I go back to the clipless. I like the idea of the touring pedals, but on longer rides feel really inefficient and a little uncomfortable. I rode a borrowed bike this summer for a week long tour. The bike had MKS Sneaker pedals and they were great-- 90% of the issues I had with the Touring pedals were gone. I imagine the Grip Kings are even better. That said, I still have Look Keos on my road bike--they are comfortable, feel efficient, and I like the feeling of being attached to the bike on long steep downhills and long rides. I have no intention of changing them. I feel silly clicking my way though the convenience store, but that is the price you pay. Cheers, cm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I started cycling late (at age 50) and with spds. I didn't really like them, so I switched a year or two later to Looks. Last year I decided that I was fed up with foot and toe cramps, and walking like a duck off the bike, so I went to sneakers which I tried in toeclips and Powergrips. I liked the Powergrips a lot better for a number of reasons, but this year decided to ditch them as well, and all year have been just pedaling in un attached shoes. I still push down with heels on climbs, and pedal in a circle. When I am not tired, I probably have about 2/3 of a useful orbit in the stroke, which is probably as good as my clipped in buddies. You really have to train to use all of a pedal circle. Yesterday for example, I had no trouble pushing a Saluki on GB Oursons (disclaimer: pumped to 65 psi) at 20 mph in a line with clipped in cyclists. I like being able to move my feet around on the pedals (Grip Kings) and of course, stops are never an issue. Cleats also draw heat out of my feet in cold weather. I am much warmer in leather cycling shoes (I use Mephisto walking shoes with wool socks) on platform pedals But you clipees are by no means heretics, and yes the A520 is a sharp looking pedal. From: 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 1:50:39 PM Subject: [RBW] Clipless Pedals I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
It was wonderful to sell off all my old Look pedals/shoes/cleats a few years back (along with my tubular tires and wheels). Now I use solely (get it?) SPD or platform. Shimano A520 on my main road bikes. Very supportive for long rides. For mixed riding on my Allrounder and Quickbeam (commute/errands/longserious), I like the platform/SPD combo Shimano A530. Great pedal. Platforms are on my 3speed and mountain bike. The 3speed has the Grip Kings, a misnomer if there ever was one. I have found I really like BMX pedals on my mtn bike. When things get dicey, I am more willing to push it if I can immediately get my foot down off a platform pedal. Also I occasionally do hikes/jogs in the middle of a mtn bike ride and like to have a trail shoe for that. On Oct 12, 12:50 pm, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
Riv BMX pedals on my errand bike, Be Bops on everything else, including my Hilsen. Tried AR 9's and toe clips for a while, didn't like 'em. Joel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: canti brakes
Here's one review of the new Velo-Orange brake pads that are not supposed to squeal. http://velo-orange.blogspot.com On Oct 12, 1:29 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I didn't see mentioned is making sure the pads are equidistant from the rim. If one pad is firmly against the rim but the other isn't it will make a racket until you squeeze harder - then it stops. On Oct 11, 10:50 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a set of the shiman br550's on my bike right now and I'm not terribly pleased with them. They've been fairly persnickety to setup and there's lots of annoying brake squeal from the front one. I'm curious if maybe I should consider getting a set of the paul touring cantis, the tektros or the ird's? Any comments one way or the other? I'm a little curious how easy any of these are to setup and get 'right' since my experience with the shimano's is not great. I also have an old set of mafac tandem cantis that I took off an old gitane frame. I guess I could pop those on. Any thoughts? Thanks, -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: pair of Grand Bois Hetres
About 500 miles on them, I can send pics if you need that, but they're in pretty good shape. I commuted on them for about 2 months. Asking $78 shipped for the pair. Contact me off list if interested. cheers, colin cummings amarillo, tx --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
Writing from Guatemala, having ridden here from Vancouver Canada on a non-Riv, but lugged steel, handbuilt Canadian bicycle (700c wheels - next time 26 inch tourer). 7500 km including some brutal ascents. Using a pair of mountain bike SPDs with downhill pedals. The downhill pedals have a cage around them (PD-M545), which seems to offer some extra foot support. They are heavy, but so is the loaded bike. I like the mountain bike SPD shoes. Strong and durable and lots of support for the foot. If it wasn´t so hot, hiking boots on flat pedals probably as good. Runners have too soft a sole for me and wear out too quickly. The only real drawback with the spd shoes is that sometimes when I am very tired, I forget that I am clipped in - can be a little embarassing when falling off the bike at zero km/h. On Oct 12, 3:50 pm, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On a related note with a different outcome, I went back to downtube shifting on the AHH. Love it. Brifters are great too, but I'm very happy with DT shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th
Haven't heard much chatter about the NorCal Riv Ride lately. Looks like the weather should be ok once the rain rolls through. Can't wait to see the Bay Area again and meet some Riv'ers. Brian + Ram Park City, UT On Sep 9, 9:21 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I'm taking a stab on the date here, but Jim said nearly any Sunday, and this is his idea. :-) Event:NorCal™ Rivendell Ride Date: Sunday, October 18 Start: Golden Gate bridge, south toll plaza lot Time: 9:00am Distance: 75 miles or so Route: (just the part to Pt. Reyes Station and back on these documents) map:http://sfrandonneurs.org/assets/downloads/200kmap.pdf cue sheet:http://sfrandonneurs.org/assets/downloads/200kcuesheet.pdf Description: See the cue sheet and map, which contains an elevation profile. It's an out-and-back, so if you don't want to do the whole thing, it's easy to turn back at any point. Nicely maintained gravel is an option for a small bit of this ride. There is a brewery and coffee roaster in Fairfax, which is about half way to Pt. Reyes Station. There's a great bakery in Pt. Reyes Station that serves sweet and/or savory stuff (including pizza), and vegan stuff; it's a great lunch stop. There are other food options on the street in Pt. Reyes Station if you for some reason are anti-baker. Bring your pals, especially if they ride a carbonium bike. See you there! Side Note: For those interested, October 17 is the Lion of Fairfax cyclocross race in Fairfax. I'm racing it, and I'm going to do my best to convince Jim Edgar, and some of my Team Paul teammates to race as well. More info here:http://www.bigswingincycles.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I think the important thing is to find what works for you, and what you are comfortable with, and do it regardless of what anyone else may think. What may feel inefficient to me, may feel great for someone else-- because we are talking about how they feel, not whether or not they are really inefficient. I don't think riding clipless is an act of heresy-- but doing it because that's what everybody else is doing might be. Cheers! cm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
MKS calls the Lambda pedals From: Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 3:39:09 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals The 3speed has the GripKings, a misnomer if there ever was one. I --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:50 PM, 40_Acres wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On my All-Rounder, tandem, road bike and cross bike you will observe Speedplay Frogs. On my 3 speed home-built commuter you will find Campy quill pedals and PowerGrips. In the winter that bike also gets Frogs to accommodate my Lake winter boots. I like to spin and clipless pedals work better for me for this. But it's nice to have at least one bike I can hop on and ride with almost any shoes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I've never had clips of any kind on a bike- though I have ridden someone's bike with toe-clips, but couldn't get used to it. I never have any problems with my feet slipping, except when riding bmx, and in those cases scars on my shins are a small price to pay compared to god-knows-what if I were clipped-in. :P On Oct 12, 6:39 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:50 PM, 40_Acres wrote: I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and without cycling-specific shoes). When I bought my AHH this Summer, I decided to give both platforms and quills a serious go of it. After 4.5 months I'm back to clipless pedals, even for short errands around town. Any fellow heretics out there? On my All-Rounder, tandem, road bike and cross bike you will observe Speedplay Frogs. On my 3 speed home-built commuter you will find Campy quill pedals and PowerGrips. In the winter that bike also gets Frogs to accommodate my Lake winter boots. I like to spin and clipless pedals work better for me for this. But it's nice to have at least one bike I can hop on and ride with almost any shoes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: NorCal Riv ride: Sunday October 18th
As far as I'm aware, it's still on. We in the north aren't chatty. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:05 PM, rinjin feltov...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't heard much chatter about the NorCal Riv Ride lately. Looks like the weather should be ok once the rain rolls through. Can't wait to see the Bay Area again and meet some Riv'ers. Brian + Ram Park City, UT On Sep 9, 9:21 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I'm taking a stab on the date here, but Jim said nearly any Sunday, and this is his idea. :-) Event:NorCal™ Rivendell Ride Date: Sunday, October 18 Start: Golden Gate bridge, south toll plaza lot Time: 9:00am Distance: 75 miles or so Route: (just the part to Pt. Reyes Station and back on these documents) map:http://sfrandonneurs.org/assets/downloads/200kmap.pdf cue sheet:http://sfrandonneurs.org/assets/downloads/200kcuesheet.pdf Description: See the cue sheet and map, which contains an elevation profile. It's an out-and-back, so if you don't want to do the whole thing, it's easy to turn back at any point. Nicely maintained gravel is an option for a small bit of this ride. There is a brewery and coffee roaster in Fairfax, which is about half way to Pt. Reyes Station. There's a great bakery in Pt. Reyes Station that serves sweet and/or savory stuff (including pizza), and vegan stuff; it's a great lunch stop. There are other food options on the street in Pt. Reyes Station if you for some reason are anti-baker. Bring your pals, especially if they ride a carbonium bike. See you there! Side Note: For those interested, October 17 is the Lion of Fairfax cyclocross race in Fairfax. I'm racing it, and I'm going to do my best to convince Jim Edgar, and some of my Team Paul teammates to race as well. More info here:http://www.bigswingincycles.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Random occurrences in the universe
Bummer, can't get no Peaberry coffees from the TJ's here in Tucson (at the present). TJ's distribution seems very strange. Jim Cloud On Oct 10, 7:12 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it great when this happens! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3999073393/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Children of Atlantis
Mike - I only wish I had discovered Devo's threads a little sooner. I started reading them just after I left the Monterey area. I couldn't believe that A) I had missed a chance to meet this character and B) I hadn't seen the Big Dummy or Pugsley rolling around the whole time I had been there. Ryan - The Saga would do just fine too, but it would be tough to put it together as cheaply as the LHT and as pretty as it is, no lugs makes it hard pressed to equal the Rivendell in that department, so it is a pretty middle of the road option. You're right, the Bombadil is the only one that won't have me wondering if I was missing out on something. Solomander - How about you get a Fargo, I'll get a Bombadil and we can swap rides for a day or three to see whether we've made the right decisions? =) I'm tempted to get a Woodchipper to see how it compares to my On One Midge. newenglandbike - I feel like I should respond to your responses, but I have nothing to add... I just agree with everything you've said! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
This year, I've retrograded back to traditional quill pedals and toe clips. I started out with toe clips decades ago, succumbed to clipless in 1998, vascillated between clipless and toe clips once or twice a year, and this season, I've been all toe clip. At first, the retro switch came this spring when they started some serious road rebuilding where I live, making it necessary to walk my bike here and there (due to sharing narrow, temporary construction pathways with pedestrians). This rammed home what I've already known for years, and that is, walkable SPD or compatible shoes are not all that walkable except on the most perfectly smooth and even surfaces. A few too many crunching sessions made me decide to put my old Campy quill pedals back on, so I could ride with any ordinary athletic shoe. I've liked the freedom so much since that I have no intention of reverting back to clipless. Look, I like to ride fast, I spin and all that, but I know I can do that just as well with traditional pedals and toe clips. Pierre --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Patagonia Dumps Sigg Over BPA Issue
I have to agree with James. Let's cool down the rhetoric about SIGG's hypocrisy until we can live a life that is devoid of criticism. Tests showed no leaching; SIGG has offered to replace the bottles; let's let them play this out. Regards, Luke On Sep 20, 11:40 am, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hullo, SIGG had the old liners tested by a independent tester and the results shown that the SIGG bottles did not leach anything. So even though the liners contain BPA it will not get into your water. Why the massive rush to return your SIGG bottles? How's about the environmental impact of that? I'm keeping mine. And even if I feared leaching of BPA from the SIGG liner I'd still would send them back, I'd find another use for them and buy some new ones. No need to waste them. Cheers! On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:47 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: Again, think about Rivendell having to deal with a recall on one of their products. They'd have to assign some of their limited staff to deal with that but would still be doing business as usual. But at least from the address for returns, it seems Sigg hired a service here in the U.S. to handle the process. It could be their employees still need to vett each return and enter the online data for the replacement order. I have no idea about that. On Sep 20, 9:29 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: It's a company with 127 employees worldwide, almost all of them in Switzerland, processing thousands if not hundreds of thousands (who knows, maybe millions. I have no idea how many bottles Sigg sold in those years, but it's bound to be considerable) of returns. There might be five or ten people processing all of the US returns and with our tendency to instant-on panic mode over things like this there are going to be a lot of returns here. It's not going to be an fast process, give it some time. Again, think about Rivendell having to deal with a recall on one of their products. They'd have to assign some of their limited staff to deal with that but would still be doing business as usual. Everything would be slower- new order fulfillment as well as processing the recall. All the RBW folks would (hopefully) understand this- because Rivendell is not a faceless corporation to us- and cut them some slack. We should do the same with Sigg. James Valiensi, P.E. C.E.M. Northridge, CA USA M.818.585.1796 valie...@mac.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Children of Atlantis
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote: I just want to point out that the LHT is also well-known to be a fantastic bike- in many of the same ways as the Bombadil. The LHT is the poor man's Atlantis. Seriously-- it has Atlantis geometry. Since I think the Atlantis is the best bicycle ever made, I think people who can't afford an Atlantis should get a LHT. But the LHT is not the same as the Bombadil. On my latest tour, Eugene to the SF Bay Area, I saw several LHTs. Great touring bike, if you can't afford an Atlantis. Also, Ortlieb has apparently taken over the bike touring world. (And for good reason.) -- -- Anne Paulson He who wills the ends wills the means --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Children of Atlantis
Have you checked out the Handsome Devil? It's a cool looking bike: http://www.handsomecycles.com/index.php?id=8 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Jack Brown Blue's and Fixed/SS Rear Wheel
One 10 mile ride. Nothing wrong with them but I like fenders and these won't work. $80 plus shipping. Fixed gear/SS wheel...I'm all gears now. MA-3 rim (no label..I'm a peeler), 32h, DT 14 6 spokes, Surley hub, 18 tooth fixed cog(nearly new), 17 freewheel. I'll also add a 16t fixed cog. Built by local wheelbuider, very good shape, could probably use a very minor truing. $85 plus shipping. Thanks, Rob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
The Wiggy's Desert Mummy Sleeping Bag found on the Riv site looks compelling but I can find no other reviews of the product. I'm in the market for a sleeping bag (and a 2-person tent) to use on a short tour and I live in Northern Florida, so a summer/fall weight bag would be appropriate, though we do get about a week of near freezing temperatures in the middle of winter. Anyway, I'm intrigued by some of the rectangular shaped bags as well, or at least mummy bags that offer some room to breath, especially in the toe box, or bags that can unzip fully and act more as a blanket than a snug fitting bag. At home, my feet usually like to be on the outside of my comforter and I can imagine feeling pretty overheated and claustrophobic in something too restrictive. Any Wiggy's users out there? Or other recommendations that might work in my case? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
