[RBW] The Winter of Sam....pics of my new Sam
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[RBW] Re: TCO in general..
Good point. A good custom builder should at least know what size crank the buyer intends to use. Depending on the level of communication before the build, the builder may know how the rider pedals. On Feb 5, 12:42 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 4, 12:18 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 2/4/10 8:28 AM, Rene at valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote: ... You could probably measure the BB to front axle distance, and see if there was a consistency in what size caused the issue. The variables would be wheel size, tire size, fender standoff (gap from tire), fender thickness, shoe size (literally, the materal thickness at the toe), foot position with relation to pedal spindle (i.e. how much meat is in front of the spindle, ... Two more variables - foot angle and crank length. The angle of your toe up or down (pitch?) affects your TCO. I can go from a full inch of overlap to none just by tilting my size 12s up or down. Employee sizing a bike: So, what's your PBH? Okay. How do you pedal? What's the yaw, roll and pitch of your foot when pedaling normally? What do you mean 'what?' You know: Yaw! Pitch! Roll! I have fat knobbies and metal fenders on my (fixed) 60cm Quickbeam, and I hit the fender stays sometimes at slow speeds. When I had 175mm cranks on the bike, I hit the fender all the time. That's not why I took them off the bike, but I probably wouldn't put them back on, either. Philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: sold my ram
Don, When this happens to me (and often it happens without actually having sold a Rivendell), I wait until the next significant event (finish business school, change jobs, my back hurts I need bigger bike) and start pondering the RBW possibilities. Depending upon delivery times (and personal finances) the enjoyment can last for months! :-) Sounds like you may have a happiness opportunity in front of you Don. Angus On Feb 5, 12:01 am, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: this may be a corny thread to some, but i really regret selling my rambouillet. i own some great bikes ( a 60x57 tournesol and a 60x57hampsten) and they are very similar( 1cm shorter top tube and 43cm chainstays). as a matter of fact, they are very similar to the roadeos. i just miss the bike because, the buying experience helped me to rediscover cycling in a different way. i truly hope that the current owner can enjoy the bike. sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:47 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling I beg to disagree. The Audi unintended acceleration issue was proven -- PROVEN -- to be user error and no fault of the car at all. TCO can cause problems that have nothing whatever to do with user error. It is not user error if a bicycle with high wheel flop becomes unstable at very low speed, for example on a 15% grade, requiring a lot of wheel turning to maintain balance. With a lot of TCO and a foot that's long enough -- and although Fats Waller might not agree, the fact that Your Feet's Too Big ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-maxEOc4Q ) might be your affliction, but technically not really your fault. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:09 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: Yes Henry Kingman's setup was an inspiration. That was an excellent article in Riv Reader, although I can't imagine myself ever being able to tour that light. I need 20 lb just to do motel touring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!
You fool! Everyone knows that if you have humongous feet you need a custom. What were you thinking?!?! Are we almost finished with this discussion? Bill In a message dated 2/5/2010 12:39:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rasterd...@comcast.net writes: Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have a clue about it. Now I discover that three custom bikes I've ridden and liked the most over the past 30 years have all had the dreaded TCO. I'm bummed and thinking I've should have employed more competent designers. I guess my size 12 feet have something to do with it. That, or folks were holding out on me. In hindsight, I should have been more discriminating but ignorance is bliss. Maybe we can get the Consumer Products Safety folks on board with this issue. JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 08:21 -0500, bpus...@aol.com wrote: You fool! Everyone knows that if you have humongous feet you need a custom. What were you thinking?!?! Especially since you're already wearing custom shoes: http://www.exotic-footwear.ru/big_jpg/clown.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 05:18 -0800, LouisvillePatrick wrote: Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. People do it all the time. The classic case is the Open Pro. It's not optimal, but they do get away with it with regularity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: sold my ram
Don, Could you compare and contrast the Ram to the Hampsten? When I first started looking for a bike, a friend up in Wisconsin has a Hampsten, suggested I give 'em a good look. I ended up w/ a Ram, but, was curious about how the Hampsten compared. Thx, -L On Feb 5, 1:01 am, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: this may be a corny thread to some, but i really regret selling my rambouillet. i own some great bikes ( a 60x57 tournesol and a 60x57hampsten) and they are very similar( 1cm shorter top tube and 43cm chainstays). as a matter of fact, they are very similar to the roadeos. i just miss the bike because, the buying experience helped me to rediscover cycling in a different way. i truly hope that the current owner can enjoy the bike. sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I ran 32 Schwalbes on my cxp33 wheels.No problem. On Feb 5, 7:18 am, LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Winter of Sam....pics of my new Sam
Sweet! Unless I'm mistaken, you've got a Ram, and are in Bristol? I just picked up a Ram frame from MSL. -L On Feb 5, 5:04 am, ccanter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/clyde.canter/TheWinterOfSam#slideshow/543... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I am currently running Grand Bois Cypres (32mm) on Velocity Aeroheads (20mm outside, 19 mm inside dim, best as I can tell. ) They work great. From: LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 7:18:43 AM Subject: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam
Sorry, I missed your Mini-V question. I looked at these as an option for a build a while back. Basically, they're intended for BMX bikes and have short caliper arms. (hence, the mini, name) They don't have much clearance for fatter tires or fenders which ruled them out for my purposes... Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of clyde canter Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:06 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam Thanks all. I'll be sure to snap some shots for Jim's site first chance I get. The weather 'round here's been unusually nasty this winter. I'll take my camera on the first ride, which hopefully won't be too far off. I didn't really get an answer to my question as to what the heck a mini V brake is, but thanks for all the help anyways. The set up is experimental, as I've never run Albatross bars before and I may not like them. If not I have a noodle in reserve once I score a shorter stem. I chose the V's over the cantis mainly because I had levers and if they don't fly on the Sam I'll but them on a CX bike I have that is very prone to fork chatter. If the rapid grab-release of the canti wire theory is correct the V's should fix that problem. The cantis on that bike will find a home on the Sam; , Feb 4, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I have run v-brakes of one kind or another for a decade + on my MTBs. As stated above, the issue is generally improved with a bit more room between rim and pad (common on MTBs to allow for muck clearance) and the inevitable relaxing of the cables. I generally squeeze the tops of the brake arms (opposite from the pads) together and that gives me enough slack to disengage the noodle. Good luck... and post some pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I have Jack browns on my Mavic Open Pros (19 or 20mm I think) without an issues. I can't recall ever having any problems running JB's or fatter tires on narrow rims. On Feb 5, 8:57 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I am currently running Grand Bois Cypres (32mm) on Velocity Aeroheads (20mm outside, 19 mm inside dim, best as I can tell. ) They work great. From: LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 7:18:43 AM Subject: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Winter of Sam....pics of my new Sam
Guilty on both counts. I saw your post earlier. That's a nice Ram you scored. I really like them with the newer lugs and the mid fork/stay rack eyes. Mine has the plain lugs and no mid ship mounts but I love her just the same. Happy riding. Clyde On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet! Unless I'm mistaken, you've got a Ram, and are in Bristol? I just picked up a Ram frame from MSL. -L On Feb 5, 5:04 am, ccanter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/clyde.canter/TheWinterOfSam#slideshow/543... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror!
Luckily most bikes with wheel flop issues don't have TCO! On Feb 5, 7:17 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:47 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling I beg to disagree. The Audi unintended acceleration issue was proven -- PROVEN -- to be user error and no fault of the car at all. TCO can cause problems that have nothing whatever to do with user error. It is not user error if a bicycle with high wheel flop becomes unstable at very low speed, for example on a 15% grade, requiring a lot of wheel turning to maintain balance. With a lot of TCO and a foot that's long enough -- and although Fats Waller might not agree, the fact that Your Feet's Too Big (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-maxEOc4Q) might be your affliction, but technically not really your fault. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam
Thanks for the input Steve. I had originally asked the group if they (the mini's) used a long or a short pull lever. I had found a Tektro (FL730) lever for flatbars that had a quick release feature I wanted, but they listed it as working with MIni V's or cantis and I wanted to know if anyone knew if I could use them with my plain ole (Maxi?) V brakes. I know the newer Tektro levers have moveable pivot points for use with both long and short pull brakes, but their description of these levers alluded to there being a 3rd type of brake. ?? Here's the lever: http://tektro.com/02products/10ql.php You know looking at that guy again, I don't see the little knob on top the other either-or levers have, so I assume the levers are short pull only. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.eduwrote: Sorry, I missed your Mini-V question. I looked at these as an option for a build a while back. Basically, they're intended for BMX bikes and have short caliper arms. (hence, the mini, name) They don't have much clearance for fatter tires or fenders which ruled them out for my purposes... Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *clyde canter *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:06 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam Thanks all. I'll be sure to snap some shots for Jim's site first chance I get. The weather 'round here's been unusually nasty this winter. I'll take my camera on the first ride, which hopefully won't be too far off. I didn't really get an answer to my question as to what the heck a mini V brake is, but thanks for all the help anyways. The set up is experimental, as I've never run Albatross bars before and I may not like them. If not I have a noodle in reserve once I score a shorter stem. I chose the V's over the cantis mainly because I had levers and if they don't fly on the Sam I'll but them on a CX bike I have that is very prone to fork chatter. If the rapid grab-release of the canti wire theory is correct the V's should fix that problem. The cantis on that bike will find a home on the Sam; , Feb 4, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I have run v-brakes of one kind or another for a decade + on my MTBs. As stated above, the issue is generally improved with a bit more room between rim and pad (common on MTBs to allow for muck clearance) and the inevitable relaxing of the cables. I generally squeeze the tops of the brake arms (opposite from the pads) together and that gives me enough slack to disengage the noodle. Good luck... and post some pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels
On Feb 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Angus wrote: I found that Primo 26 x 1.0 and Pasela 26 x 1.25 at 100 psi are every bit as fast as any 700C road tire I have used. Tim, When I first assembled my All-Rounder in 1998 I used Ritchey 26x1.4 tires. The bike was measurably slower than my Rivendell Road Standard. I thought this bike is a dog!...then I got smart(er) and changed to Pasela 26x1.25 tires. Then there was no measurable speed difference between the bikes. I ended up using the All-Rounder and those tires for several centuries including Ride Around the Bear that had lots of climbing. I used those Ritcheys too, for a while, and they were clearly slower than my 700C tires. The size was visually nice but the tread was just too thick (for some reason this is very common with 26 road tires- even high performance ones tend to be 400-500 g with thick rubber tread. I don't get it). I also found Ritchey 26 x 1.0 Tom Slicks slower and distressingly prone to casing failures. I nearly gave up on the bike until someone here or on the iBOB list suggested the Panaracers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam
My guess would be that they 730's are canti/mini V's only--not compatible with normal v's. You might want to ask at a shop to get a more informed opinion, tho! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of clyde canter Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:03 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam Thanks for the input Steve. I had originally asked the group if they (the mini's) used a long or a short pull lever. I had found a Tektro (FL730) lever for flatbars that had a quick release feature I wanted, but they listed it as working with MIni V's or cantis and I wanted to know if anyone knew if I could use them with my plain ole (Maxi?) V brakes. I know the newer Tektro levers have moveable pivot points for use with both long and short pull brakes, but their description of these levers alluded to there being a 3rd type of brake. ?? Here's the lever: http://tektro.com/02products/10ql.php You know looking at that guy again, I don't see the little knob on top the other either-or levers have, so I assume the levers are short pull only. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Sorry, I missed your Mini-V question. I looked at these as an option for a build a while back. Basically, they're intended for BMX bikes and have short caliper arms. (hence, the mini, name) They don't have much clearance for fatter tires or fenders which ruled them out for my purposes... Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of clyde canter Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:06 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help with V brakes on Sam Thanks all. I'll be sure to snap some shots for Jim's site first chance I get. The weather 'round here's been unusually nasty this winter. I'll take my camera on the first ride, which hopefully won't be too far off. I didn't really get an answer to my question as to what the heck a mini V brake is, but thanks for all the help anyways. The set up is experimental, as I've never run Albatross bars before and I may not like them. If not I have a noodle in reserve once I score a shorter stem. I chose the V's over the cantis mainly because I had levers and if they don't fly on the Sam I'll but them on a CX bike I have that is very prone to fork chatter. If the rapid grab-release of the canti wire theory is correct the V's should fix that problem. The cantis on that bike will find a home on the Sam; , Feb 4, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I have run v-brakes of one kind or another for a decade + on my MTBs. As stated above, the issue is generally improved with a bit more room between rim and pad (common on MTBs to allow for muck clearance) and the inevitable relaxing of the cables. I generally squeeze the tops of the brake arms (opposite from the pads) together and that gives me enough slack to disengage the noodle. Good luck... and post some pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: On Feb 4, 11:54 am, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three season touring at a weight of 22lbs. It can be installed on any bike, road, touring, mountain as it requires no eyelets and even if you don’t have saddlebag loops you can buy simple clamp on ones or use a quick release Bagman. If I loose a few pounds I’m thinking of trying this setup on my DeRosa Neo Primato. That would be touring on an Italian steel bike with Japanese components and English bicycle bags. Call me crazy, but I just love the idea of all those weird juxtapositions. http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/ This is great. Amazing how much touring one can do without a full touring rig. In much of the world one can tour for weeks and months with nothing more than will fit in a Carradice Nelson or Camper, since there are an abundance of villages and hotels, BBs, chambres-d'hôtes, pensiones and youth hostels. Unless you really *want* to camp, which I don't care for myself. In the US credit card touring is expensive because hotels and motels are severely overpriced in most cases; in most other countries, much cheaper but good accommodations are easily found. I've seen report of people riding most of the way around the world without having to camp (there are some places where human habitation is too sparse to be reliable and camping ends up being necessary). But even if you want to camp, you can readily get the weight below 25 lbs. Reading Crazy Guy On a Bike and Trento Bike reports I am amazed at how many people haul 100 lbs worth of crap with them on bike tours. It's like pedaling a Winnebago. I remember reading one report of a guy taking four hours to climb up the Col d'Izoard with all his gear (it's about an hour's climb on the north side for a slow climber like me; the south side is steeper but shorter). This guy pushes the limit. Click on the little bike icon to see his progressively more minimalist touring setups (and he starts out pretty minimalist): http://www2.arnes.si/~ikovse/index.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror!
Yes, but do bikes with wheel flop issues and no TCO plane well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I'm using Jack Brown (greens) on Mavic Open Pros and a second set of wheels using CXP33 rims. I have zero problems using these tires on either set of rims. I'm real fond of those Jack Browns and have ridden them 10k miles in the last few years. Another RBW home run in my book. -JimD On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:18 AM, LouisvillePatrick wrote: Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror!
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 07:21 -0800, Mike wrote: Yes, but do bikes with wheel flop issues and no TCO plane well? The two are independent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Winter of Sam....pics of my new Sam
Clyde, nice bikes. What size SH did you go with? Your Rambouillet is a 64cm correct? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror!
TCO, if it bothers you great, if it doesnt great. Seems like a personal thing to me... I dont quite get all the lively discussion. I hate orange bikes, someone else loves'em--i dont buy one, they do. Everyone's happy. I had a 1986 Audi 5000 and it was a great car! OK, I got it for free and it leaked several fluids and sometimes the brakes didnt work-- but a great car nonetheless! I have always deeply regretted selling it-- ok, I couldnt actually sell it, but I gave to to someone who really appreciated it. Cheers! c who really doesnt mind if you love or hate TCO m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror!
Can you verify that by referencing a VBQ article? ;) On Feb 5, 7:28 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 07:21 -0800, Mike wrote: Yes, but do bikes with wheel flop issues and no TCO plane well? The two are independent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Archival Musette
Just a note to let you know we finally have a small batch run of our new, waxed cotton flap musette: http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/72157623230042825/ We'll be doing a much larger run of the basic musette later in the month. Web shop coming soon. Until then, email me if you're interested. Tote and a canoe style rucksack in the works. Cheers, Lesli On Dec 30 2009, 7:34 am, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 29, 2:55 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm pleased to be an early recipient of an Archival Clothing musette carry bag. http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4225735143/ i'm fortunate to have snagged one of Archival's first musettes, too, and i love it. have used it for commuting to the shop this week. love the way it fits. kudos to Lesli and Tom on their initial efforts. as i understand it, the next set of bags will have a flap. i might want one of those too, but not because this one isn't sufficient for my needs. ;-) -kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror!
Only if they have a deep Vee hull... From: Mike mjawn...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 9:21:35 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: TCO - Oh The Horror! Yes, but do bikes with wheel flop issues and no TCO plane well? - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Winter of Sam....pics of my new Sam
Thanks Mike. The Sam is a 60 and the Ram is a 64. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Clyde, nice bikes. What size SH did you go with? Your Rambouillet is a 64cm correct? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:47 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling I beg to disagree. The Audi unintended acceleration issue was proven -- PROVEN -- to be user error and no fault of the car at all. TCO can cause problems that have nothing whatever to do with user error. OK, how bout this: TCO= the Chevy Corvair of cycling, unsafe at any speed (but really only slow)! TCO= the Toyota Camry of cycling, beige but deadly TCO = the Ford Explorer of cycling, will flip you over without warning There, that last one was sweet! Guys, it's all sarcasm meant to lighten the mood... Crabon, wheelbrow, yabbies, etc. carry on. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I run JB Greens on my Ram with Sun Venus rims. 19.3mm according to Sun. And I highly recommend the JB's! -Jay Denver, CO On Feb 5, 6:18 am, LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: sold my ram
leslie, my tournesol( a hampsten brand) is very similar to a roadeo. lugged steel, 43cm. chainstays, 72deg sta. but,the dimensions are a little different, 60.5 ct seat tube and 57ctc toptube. the bike is not really designed to carry loads and uses short reach brakes ( i still use 700x28 grand bois tires ). my hampsten is ti and has the same dimensions, but is designed around long reach brakes and can fit much larger tires. both are custom and are designed for me. they ride great and the workmanship and paint are flawless. when you compare the level of craftsmanship to other brands, they're hard to beat. i started with the dimensions of my 60cm. ram and just tweaked the numbers here and there. and steve hampsten designed the bikes around those paremeters and my weight and type of riding. it takes a while for the lugged steel bikes, but if you have the time, its sure worth it. i have seen a few custom rivs and it would be hard to choose between the two. don c. On Feb 5, 5:37 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Don, Could you compare and contrast the Ram to the Hampsten? When I first started looking for a bike, a friend up in Wisconsin has a Hampsten, suggested I give 'em a good look. I ended up w/ a Ram, but, was curious about how the Hampsten compared. Thx, -L On Feb 5, 1:01 am, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: this may be a corny thread to some, but i really regret selling my rambouillet. i own some great bikes ( a 60x57 tournesol and a 60x57hampsten) and they are very similar( 1cm shorter top tube and 43cm chainstays). as a matter of fact, they are very similar to the roadeos. i just miss the bike because, the buying experience helped me to rediscover cycling in a different way. i truly hope that the current owner can enjoy the bike. sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I've run 40mm WTB tires on my mavic reflex clincher, which I haven't measured but is around 20mm. You'll be fine. On Feb 5, 5:18 am, LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning! I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 5-Boro NYC Ride May 2
Friends, I just registered for this ride, which is a new one for me. Great excuse to visit the 'big' city. Anyone else going? http://tiny.cc/44hwQ Cheers, AJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 5-Boro NYC Ride May 2
AJ, It's a lot of fun. I've done the ride twice, skipped it last year, will skip it again this year. One word of caution, please be careful of the other people out there. There are a lot of riders who use that event as their first long ride of the season and possibly their only. And they can be incredibly sloppy and reckless. My girlfriend witnessed a guy break his arm right in front of her as he crashed into another guy he was racing against. Also, if you start with the main pack, there is quite a bit of standing around, starting, then stopping again for the first few miles. Really gets jammed up before entering Central Park. I can't guarantee it, but I've heard registering as a VIP (more $) will allow you a start at the head of the pack. I assume this means you won't have to wait, which if I did it again I'd probably go for. Aside from these negatives, I had a great time both times. It's an awesome way to see NYC and to ride roads, highways and bridges that are otherwise car-only. If you are comfortable using a camera while riding, it is a great opportunity to chronicle the event, as I did the last time I rode: http://picasaweb.google.com/curtisrschmitt/FiveBoroBikeTour2008# Curtis On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:32 PM, AJ flyfisherman.cad...@gmail.com wrote: Friends, I just registered for this ride, which is a new one for me. Great excuse to visit the 'big' city. Anyone else going? http://tiny.cc/44hwQ Cheers, AJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I'll cast my vote for the JB Greens. Fantastic tires on-road and off. I highly recommend them. On Feb 5, 9:50 am, LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone! It's a toss up between the JB Greens and the Grand Bois Cypres 30s. Just can't make up my mind. I'm thinking the JBs are the ticket.for the moment Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
on 2/5/10 5:18 AM, LouisvillePatrick at flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Hilsen has my CX wheelset on it, which is a CXP22 and a CXP33. (The original wheelset is a Velocity.) The Quickbeam has MA3 front and rear. No problems running Jack Browns under a wide variety of riding conditions. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I've run Nanoraptors (29er tire) on MA3s with no problems. Not ideal, but it works. From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:29:02 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar on 2/5/10 5:18 AM, LouisvillePatrick at flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Hilsen has my CX wheelset on it, which is a CXP22 and a CXP33. (The original wheelset is a Velocity.) The Quickbeam has MA3 front and rear. No problems running Jack Browns under a wide variety of riding conditions. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs On Feb 5, 8:19 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 21:09 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: Yes Henry Kingman's setup was an inspiration. That was an excellent article in Riv Reader, although I can't imagine myself ever being able to tour that light. I need 20 lb just to do motel touring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt. That sort of thing adds up. But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
I ride in a pair of SPD shoes with recessed cleats that are good to walk in, but I agree about off the bike clothing. I take a pair of long Exofficio pants that are 0.6lbs and my smartwool long sleeve T-shirts look fine off the bike. I also have a long sleeve buttoned shirt. Shoes are an issue, but I've found that rubber soled Tai-Chi/Kung fu shoes are good for off the bike activities and going to the shower blocks. On Feb 5, 3:02 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt. That sort of thing adds up. But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
I like these! A pair weighs 10oz and packs down small. These are slightly more expensive than a lot of these types of shoe, but the sole material and quality are very good. The sole is hard so you can walk around town easily and the canvas top gives them a bit more structure than flip flops http://www.gungfu.com/htm-apparel/shoes/apparel-shoes-kung-fu-basic-tai-chi.htm On Feb 5, 3:33 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I use a pair of nylon convertable pants (zip off legs) and a casual wool shirt for off-bike wear. Get the pants with a mesh brief built in and you can skip underwear. Three pairs of socks suitable for on or off the bike in rotation is a good way to go. Re shoes, packable shoes that collapse and snap together are good--pretty light and compact if not the best for long walks. http://www3.dealtime.com/xPO-Tecnica_Tecnica_Pacmoc_Men_s Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of usuk2007 Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:18 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish I ride in a pair of SPD shoes with recessed cleats that are good to walk in, but I agree about off the bike clothing. I take a pair of long Exofficio pants that are 0.6lbs and my smartwool long sleeve T-shirts look fine off the bike. I also have a long sleeve buttoned shirt. Shoes are an issue, but I've found that rubber soled Tai-Chi/Kung fu shoes are good for off the bike activities and going to the shower blocks. On Feb 5, 3:02 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt. That sort of thing adds up. But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
..and there are always these, although they freak me out http://www.barefootrunner.com/2009/03/review-vibram-fivefingers-classic/ On Feb 5, 3:33 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I use a pair of nylon convertable pants (zip off legs) and a casual wool shirt for off-bike wear. Get the pants with a mesh brief built in and you can skip underwear. Three pairs of socks suitable for on or off the bike in rotation is a good way to go. Re shoes, packable shoes that collapse and snap together are good--pretty light and compact if not the best for long walks. http://www3.dealtime.com/xPO-Tecnica_Tecnica_Pacmoc_Men_s Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of usuk2007 Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:18 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish I ride in a pair of SPD shoes with recessed cleats that are good to walk in, but I agree about off the bike clothing. I take a pair of long Exofficio pants that are 0.6lbs and my smartwool long sleeve T-shirts look fine off the bike. I also have a long sleeve buttoned shirt. Shoes are an issue, but I've found that rubber soled Tai-Chi/Kung fu shoes are good for off the bike activities and going to the shower blocks. On Feb 5, 3:02 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt. That sort of thing adds up. But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt. That sort of thing adds up. But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps. I wear SPD style shoes for all clipless riding and don't take extra shoes along. But it's hard to find cycling shoes that don't look like a Chagal riff on bowling shoes. What's up with that, anyway? A lot of tourists don't seem to wear bike clothing or just wear cycling shorts under their street clothes. Makes a certain amount of sense, not having to essentially carry two wardrobes. I happen to prefer riding in cycling clothes, though. I got some lightweight clothing at REI which looks a little dorky but works pretty well; it also packs up much smaller. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] No bids yet?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-rear-derailleur-coiled-spring-housing-Rivendell_W0QQitemZ170440288084QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27af086754 It's Rivendell. : ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] No bids yet?
On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, James Warren wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-rear-derailleur-coiled-spring-housing- Rivendell_W0QQitemZ170440288084QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?h ash=item27af086754 It's Rivendell. : ) Good grief. Is Rivendell a look now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 5-Boro NYC Ride May 2
I rode the past two years; afraid I can't ride this year. Last year was *really* wet/cold. My Rambouillet was one of the few bikes I saw with fenders (www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/3503640659) When will the people learn? :-) Yes, do be careful out there. In 2008 I personally witnessed 12 different crashes/dropped bikes. The NYPD do a magnificent job closing 42 miles of NYC streets to cars, but 30,000 people with a mass start have all sorts of safety and bottleneck issues. Check out this congestion on the BQE in 2008: www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/2468043524. On Feb 5, 12:43 pm, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com wrote: AJ, It's a lot of fun. I've done the ride twice, skipped it last year, will skip it again this year. One word of caution, please be careful of the other people out there. There are a lot of riders who use that event as their first long ride of the season and possibly their only. And they can be incredibly sloppy and reckless. My girlfriend witnessed a guy break his arm right in front of her as he crashed into another guy he was racing against. Also, if you start with the main pack, there is quite a bit of standing around, starting, then stopping again for the first few miles. Really gets jammed up before entering Central Park. I can't guarantee it, but I've heard registering as a VIP (more $) will allow you a start at the head of the pack. I assume this means you won't have to wait, which if I did it again I'd probably go for. Aside from these negatives, I had a great time both times. It's an awesome way to see NYC and to ride roads, highways and bridges that are otherwise car-only. If you are comfortable using a camera while riding, it is a great opportunity to chronicle the event, as I did the last time I rode:http://picasaweb.google.com/curtisrschmitt/FiveBoroBikeTour2008# Curtis On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:32 PM, AJ flyfisherman.cad...@gmail.com wrote: Friends, I just registered for this ride, which is a new one for me. Great excuse to visit the 'big' city. Anyone else going? http://tiny.cc/44hwQ Cheers, AJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] No bids yet?
On Friday, February 5, 2010, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-rear-derailleur-coiled-spring-housing-Rivendell_W0QQitemZ170440288084QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27af086754 It's Rivendell. : ) That's quite a stretch. I think I have some of the same housing in the garage that would fetch a pretty penny (or maybe even 3-4 pennies). Bill -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lightweight yet traditional and BOBish
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 16:05 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote: 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave my tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt. That sort of thing adds up. But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps. I wear SPD style shoes for all clipless riding and don't take extra shoes along. But it's hard to find cycling shoes that don't look like a Chagal riff on bowling shoes. What's up with that, anyway? It's not only the look, although I think the Sidi Dominators I use don't look /quite/ that bad. It's also that they're pretty expensive and I really don't want to wear the soles needlessly. Also, while they're fine for the intended purpose, they're not really all that comfortable or secure for serious walking. I tried carrying water shoes on a tour last year. Not too heavy, folded up pretty small, but when my touring companions set off on a hike up a rocky steep hillside, I was frankly very afraid of falling, as they weren't at all secure. Last summer, literally on the eve of the tour, which was going to include visits to two of the Shenandoah Valley's famous caverns, I got a pair of Keen sandals. Not the SPD riding sandals, but just plain regular ones. Very secure, very comfortable, and although not light, they did pack small. I liked them so well I wore them exclusively from then until late fall. A lot of tourists don't seem to wear bike clothing or just wear cycling shorts under their street clothes. Makes a certain amount of sense, not having to essentially carry two wardrobes. I happen to prefer riding in cycling clothes, though. I got some lightweight clothing at REI which looks a little dorky but works pretty well; it also packs up much smaller. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: No bids yet?
What would the ebay fees be on a one cent sale? I've got several of these that I'd let go for a nicklethey'd look great on your Masi or Paramount!! On Feb 5, 4:37 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2010, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-rear-derailleur-coiled-spring-housing-Riv... It's Rivendell. : ) That's quite a stretch. I think I have some of the same housing in the garage that would fetch a pretty penny (or maybe even 3-4 pennies). Bill -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: No bids yet?
I am planning to win this, and money is no object, unless it goes to ten cents. I'll probably drive the five hours each way to Madison to save on s/h. On Feb 5, 4:51 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-rear-derailleur-coiled-spring-housing-Riv... It's Rivendell. : ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: No bids yet?
That stuff is actually pretty horrible to use...I used in on bar end shifters and it seemed that the first 50% of shifter travel went into housing flex...Yuck! On Feb 5, 4:51 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-rear-derailleur-coiled-spring-housing-Riv... It's Rivendell. : ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
