[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem
I own two. No idea on weight. They look great. Enough said. On Mar 2, 6:54 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Is there more to this stem then the love of lugs? Is it appreciably stiffer than the technomic? Does it provide vertical compliance while isolating lateral and twisting flex? Is there more than good looks for 3 times the price? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem
I don't know about weight, length, or any real specifications that make them different. I have two lugged stems on two different bicycles; on my Rivendell custom all-rounder, and one on a custom Curt Goodrich. I have regular Nitto stems on my Atlantis and on another custom Rivendell road bike. There is a noticable difference in stiffness when the front of the bike is loaded down with weight. I'd like to get another lugged stem for the Atlantis for when touring with front panniers. I have no desire to add one to the other Rivendell road. Mostly, it's an aesthetic thing that one looks at and says; Wow, what a beautiful bit of ridable art. On Mar 2, 5:54 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Is there more to this stem then the love of lugs? Is it appreciably stiffer than the technomic? Does it provide vertical compliance while isolating lateral and twisting flex? Is there more than good looks for 3 times the price? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
Why not call Rivendell to inquire? Obviously there will be a variety of opinions based on their use? On Mar 2, 5:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
Never had JBs but use Kojaks. They are great street tires. They are durable tires with good flat resistance, roll very well, and ride comfortable. A very good tire. On Mar 2, 5:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Did the paper Readers get mailed yet?
Dear Rob, The Reader is being printed this week, and if everything goes according to plan, they will be mailed next week. Thank you for patience. Cheers, John at RBW On Mar 2, 10:58 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: Ordered one few weeks ago and nothing's appeared...in old man voice...and I refuse to read a magazine on the computer!!! Rob been reading 10 year old Readers Markwardt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight. On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Did the paper Readers get mailed yet?
On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:05 AM, John Bennett wrote: Dear Rob, The Reader is being printed this week, and if everything goes according to plan, they will be mailed next week. Thank you for patience. I'd better get on the ball and send some money then! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
This is interesting to know. Did Mark mention if they run true to size? On Mar 3, 6:32 am, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight. On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500
David, If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack and ship from my shop if you need. Seriously. Brad -Denver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too
Yes, we really like the silver SRAM road group as well ... but they are becoming really hard to find. Likewise, Shimano is slowly fading to a Gray color with their comparable Ultegra 6700 series. We're snapping up the 6600 series where we can. To answer Patrick's question, the friction shifting was the customer's request. We looked at the black SRAM bar-ends (which are indexed for the rear), but thought the more classic look and feel was more appropriate to the customer's liking. Bryan On Mar 2, 11:53 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Mar 2, 9:23 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: how is friction shifting with 10spd? why not indexing, esp. with a sporty 10spd bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500
That is VERY generous of you, thank you. It looks like an incredible bike and I am very intrigued, but it really duplicates what I have. Or at least enough that I can't justify it! :-) On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:06 AM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: David, If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack and ship from my shop if you need. Seriously. Brad -Denver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
I just mounted a set of Kojaks on Mavic Aksiums (intended for use on a Roadeo frame, which hasn't yet arrived). I have not ridden the Kojaks yet, but can they appear to be almost exactly 32 mm. Almost identical to the Jack Browns. I am riding the JB's on another bike and agree that they are a super tire. Super comforable, super road handling. On Mar 3, 6:46 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting to know. Did Mark mention if they run true to size? On Mar 3, 6:32 am, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight. On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500
Enablers! :) On Mar 3, 7:06 am, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: David, If you buy it, I will go get it and do the pack and ship from my shop if you need. Seriously. Brad -Denver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
so that would be the 700x35 model that measures 32mm? I don't see a 32 on the Schwalbe website. I am about to order some new tires for my new Coho Randonneuse. I was torn between the Jack Browns, 32mm Paselas and now I should consider the Kojak too, it seems. ~Mike~ On Mar 3, 8:01 am, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: I just mounted a set of Kojaks on Mavic Aksiums (intended for use on a Roadeo frame, which hasn't yet arrived). I have not ridden the Kojaks yet, but can they appear to be almost exactly 32 mm. Almost identical to the Jack Browns. I am riding the JB's on another bike and agree that they are a super tire. Super comforable, super road handling. On Mar 3, 6:46 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting to know. Did Mark mention if they run true to size? On Mar 3, 6:32 am, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight. On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
That's right. My experience with Schwalbe is that they run a little smaller than the nominal sizing. The Kojaks are designated as a 35, and on the Aksium rims, run almost exactly 32. I have Paselas on my QB and they are nice for mixed road and trail, but for road use the JB's seem to corner better and feel smoother. I will post a report on the Schwalbes after the Roadeo arrives. On Mar 3, 8:18 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: so that would be the 700x35 model that measures 32mm? I don't see a 32 on the Schwalbe website. I am about to order some new tires for my new Coho Randonneuse. I was torn between the Jack Browns, 32mm Paselas and now I should consider the Kojak too, it seems. ~Mike~ On Mar 3, 8:01 am, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: I just mounted a set of Kojaks on Mavic Aksiums (intended for use on a Roadeo frame, which hasn't yet arrived). I have not ridden the Kojaks yet, but can they appear to be almost exactly 32 mm. Almost identical to the Jack Browns. I am riding the JB's on another bike and agree that they are a super tire. Super comforable, super road handling. On Mar 3, 6:46 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting to know. Did Mark mention if they run true to size? On Mar 3, 6:32 am, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight. On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I flickered...
Hi...I finally organized meself to get photos up on flickr; there IS some riv content on there, as we have 2 of them (one you might recognize). And our other bikes as well. Check out the blue one. Enjoy (and eventually...better photos). RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojak vs Jack Brown
Schwalbe sells only 35 in 700 far as I know. Speaking of Rando, wonder if Schwalbe well ever come out with a 650b version? On Mar 3, 10:18 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: so that would be the 700x35 model that measures 32mm? I don't see a 32 on the Schwalbe website. I am about to order some new tires for my new Coho Randonneuse. I was torn between the Jack Browns, 32mm Paselas and now I should consider the Kojak too, it seems. ~Mike~ On Mar 3, 8:01 am, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: I just mounted a set of Kojaks on Mavic Aksiums (intended for use on a Roadeo frame, which hasn't yet arrived). I have not ridden the Kojaks yet, but can they appear to be almost exactly 32 mm. Almost identical to the Jack Browns. I am riding the JB's on another bike and agree that they are a super tire. Super comforable, super road handling. On Mar 3, 6:46 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting to know. Did Mark mention if they run true to size? On Mar 3, 6:32 am, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: I asked Mark about which tire he prefers when I ordered my Roadeo, here is his reply: I like both tires but if I had to pick just one, I would go with the Kojaks. They cost more, but will last longer and are a bit tougher than the JB Greens at about the same weight. On Mar 2, 6:48 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Who among us has ridden both and can compare? I really enjoy my Jack Brown greens, but the pictures of the Kojaks on various bikes ar RBWWHQ have got me wondering. Deep Google searches turn up mostly recumbant love. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I flickered...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04/sets/72157623546735456/ On Mar 3, 11:26 am, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote: Hi...I finally organized meself to get photos up on flickr; there IS some riv content on there, as we have 2 of them (one you might recognize). And our other bikes as well. Check out the blue one. Enjoy (and eventually...better photos). RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem
I don't have a lugged stem (I'd like a riser threadless one with inverted lugs, though). I tried a Technomic Dlx and Nitto Dirt Drop before switching to an old steel Salsa quill stem on my Quickbeam. http://tinyurl.com/qbsalsa. The steel stem is a lot stiffer than either of those. I'll bet most lugged stem owners don't mind the over-the-topness of the NAHBS bikes! Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Mar 3, 5:38 am, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about weight, length, or any real specifications that make them different. I have two lugged stems on two different bicycles; on my Rivendell custom all-rounder, and one on a custom Curt Goodrich. I have regular Nitto stems on my Atlantis and on another custom Rivendell road bike. There is a noticable difference in stiffness when the front of the bike is loaded down with weight. I'd like to get another lugged stem for the Atlantis for when touring with front panniers. I have no desire to add one to the other Rivendell road. Mostly, it's an aesthetic thing that one looks at and says; Wow, what a beautiful bit of ridable art. On Mar 2, 5:54 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Is there more to this stem then the love of lugs? Is it appreciably stiffer than the technomic? Does it provide vertical compliance while isolating lateral and twisting flex? Is there more than good looks for 3 times the price? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet for sale in Colorado - $1500
ONLY because it's not MY size! ;) On Mar 3, 9:06 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Enablers! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I flickered...
Thanks for sharing. Fun to see where that beautiful Saluki that I believe used to belong to John Ferguson went :) Good for you! I too share the enjoyment of riding with my kids on a tandem. I have an old steel Trek with albatross bars that I ride with my daughters. On Mar 3, 10:26 am, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote: Hi...I finally organized meself to get photos up on flickr; there IS some riv content on there, as we have 2 of them (one you might recognize). And our other bikes as well. Check out the blue one. Enjoy (and eventually...better photos). RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: but after one or two bikes go out to cheap, we're probably going to post some others on eBay. Because basicallywe're after sustainability So they are not taking the pure long-view, a loss-leader marketing exercise to give people ideas on how to set up bikes. While there may be that aspect to things, a big part is cash flow and turning over inventory. Again, here's to hoping a hero jumps in and pays the $3800 so Riv can feel good about this program. I'd like to see as many auction bikes and as much hig-value inventory liquidation as possible. On Mar 2, 1:31 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Keven told me that if it sells for $2700 they probably won't do another bike, which is what I was afraid of. They need to at least get wholesale for it to make sense. Too bad, really. Hopefully a hero will come in and pay retail for it. It has a pamphlet! I bet Keven would sign it on the top tube for you! On Mar 2, 12:25 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Only one more day left! It's a total steal at the current bid. On Mar 1, 7:06 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you are right about giving folks ideas on how to set one up. The current bid is probably still below their cost on everything, not to mention zero dollars to SmileTrain. On Feb 26, 12:59 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). I am not sure. I see it as both a good deed - but also a good marketing effort. I am real fascinated with theBombadilbut unsure what I would do with one if I bought. Keven's build answers a lot of questions I had. I imagine interested Bomb buyers may now be persuaded to buy and buy close to what Keven did. On Feb 25, 1:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, I bet if you asked Grant again today, he'd say that a 56cm is a better size for him (and for you). I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). It's no longer custom spec when you've already custom spec-ed it. ;) It's no longer custom paint when it's already painted. Will there be a whole gang of tiny Saluki's coming because of what they have on hand? We will see On Feb 25, 6:20 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). sss! I am already tempted enough as it is! With NAHBS just around the corner, it is fun to see Riv showing it knows a thing or two about making practical yet amazingly good looking bikes. On Feb 24, 11:38 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hhm, I thought I noticed this frame quietly disappearing from the frame specials section of the website. It was my favorite color there, though the 48cm white with gold looks great, too. Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). Gernot On Feb 25, 12:21 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness it is several sizes too small for me...but boy does it give me some ideas. I really do need a bike with gears. :-) Aloha! Bob On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I am just a bit taller than Grant, so it appears theauctionBomb is one size too big for me. That is among the best looking Rivs I have ever seen. Wow. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
I am curious how much they expected the bike to go for? I think I woulda guessed $3000-$3200. A bike that is a personal thing and there are a lot of things on that bike that I wouldnt want to pay for, but would if the price were right-- so 75-80% of retail seems pretty spot on. I can if there was someone looking to purchase a very similiar bike then it might be higher-- but that seems unlikely. What is consensus on the current bid? Too high? Too low? just right? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
that's about right from my p.o.v.. it it had been one size down (e.g. fit me) i was going to bid $3200, so we are on the same page. -a On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:35 PM, cm wrote: I am curious how much they expected the bike to go for? I think I woulda guessed $3000-$3200. A bike that is a personal thing and there are a lot of things on that bike that I wouldnt want to pay for, but would if the price were right-- so 75-80% of retail seems pretty spot on. I can if there was someone looking to purchase a very similiar bike then it might be higher-- but that seems unlikely. What is consensus on the current bid? Too high? Too low? just right? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
Not to mention that the size of any bike automatically limits it's value to anyone it doesn't fit... ...if they seriously wanted to move some product via highest bidder, they'd offer build kit, choice of frame size. But hopefully things aren't quite that desperate in Rivland... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cm Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:35 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction I am curious how much they expected the bike to go for? I think I woulda guessed $3000-$3200. A bike that is a personal thing and there are a lot of things on that bike that I wouldnt want to pay for, but would if the price were right-- so 75-80% of retail seems pretty spot on. I can if there was someone looking to purchase a very similiar bike then it might be higher-- but that seems unlikely. What is consensus on the current bid? Too high? Too low? just right? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
Keven told me today that $3000 was the winning price, and he called it a 'screaming deal'. So I think he was a little disappointed. But this final price doesn't surprise me all that much. I was hoping to be surprised. Maybe Riv should have offered more OOAK (one of a kind) content: give the bike a name, immortalize it in the Reader, open a flickr group for dream bikes, or have Keven sign the bike. Stuff that none of us can buy at any price so the person who subjugates his/her choices to Keven gets some extra stuff that is free yet priceless. Maybe I'm naive in thinking this. Maybe we all just want a deal, regardless of what the original price is. On Mar 3, 12:45 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: that's about right from my p.o.v.. it it had been one size down (e.g. fit me) i was going to bid $3200, so we are on the same page. -a On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:35 PM, cm wrote: I am curious how much they expected the bike to go for? I think I woulda guessed $3000-$3200. A bike that is a personal thing and there are a lot of things on that bike that I wouldnt want to pay for, but would if the price were right-- so 75-80% of retail seems pretty spot on. I can if there was someone looking to purchase a very similiar bike then it might be higher-- but that seems unlikely. What is consensus on the current bid? Too high? Too low? just right? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis Rondo.
Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I flickered...
Meticulous collector type? I resent that :-) I still think this is the prettiest bike ever...it just never rode it because I got the Toei a few months later. Glad to see it went to a good home, though. Keep it clean! John On Mar 3, 11:27 am, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04/sets/72157623546735456/ On Mar 3, 11:26 am, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote: Hi...I finally organized meself to get photos up on flickr; there IS some riv content on there, as we have 2 of them (one you might recognize). And our other bikes as well. Check out the blue one. Enjoy (and eventually...better photos). RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem
Did somebody mention my name? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I'll bet most lugged stem owners don't mind the over-the-topness of the NAHBS bikes! Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Mar 3, 5:38 am, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about weight, length, or any real specifications that make them different. I have two lugged stems on two different bicycles; on my Rivendell custom all-rounder, and one on a custom Curt Goodrich. I have regular Nitto stems on my Atlantis and on another custom Rivendell road bike. There is a noticable difference in stiffness when the front of the bike is loaded down with weight. I'd like to get another lugged stem for the Atlantis for when touring with front panniers. I have no desire to add one to the other Rivendell road. Mostly, it's an aesthetic thing that one looks at and says; Wow, what a beautiful bit of ridable art. On Mar 2, 5:54 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Is there more to this stem then the love of lugs? Is it appreciably stiffer than the technomic? Does it provide vertical compliance while isolating lateral and twisting flex? Is there more than good looks for 3 times the price? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem
I am pretty sure I remember reading way back that the lugged stem is very very strong. I think this was back when Rivendell first stocked them and before their long out-of-stock status--maybe '01-02-ish. If I remember correctly (which I most likely dont), when Nitto was testing them for strength they couldnt break one during their load tests, where others stems broke after a relatively small number of loads. Does super strong equal super stiff? Anyone else remember this? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Lugged Stem
I just knew there was a damn good reason to pick up that used 110mm one on EBAY 4 months ago. I'm sure it didn't have any reason to do with the fact that it's the best looking production stem available. And I have just the right new custom bike almost in my possession right now ~Mike~ On Mar 3, 7:08 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure I remember reading way back that the lugged stem is very very strong. I think this was back when Rivendell first stocked them and before their long out-of-stock status--maybe '01-02-ish. If I remember correctly (which I most likely dont), when Nitto was testing them for strength they couldnt break one during their load tests, where others stems broke after a relatively small number of loads. Does super strong equal super stiff? Anyone else remember this? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.
Cheers to your Frenchy-fied Riv: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4309012429/sizes/l/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Mar 3, 4:10 pm, muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo.
Looks great! How long is that stem? Dustin From: muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:10:46 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo. Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
Wow, 3K, that is a deal...! On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Anthony Castellino rubiconmanagem...@gmail.com wrote: Do we know the final bid? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: ...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: but after one or two bikes go out to cheap, we're probably going to post some others on eBay. Because basicallywe're after sustainability So they are not taking the pure long-view, a loss-leader marketing exercise to give people ideas on how to set up bikes. While there may be that aspect to things, a big part is cash flow and turning over inventory. Again, here's to hoping a hero jumps in and pays the $3800 so Riv can feel good about this program. I'd like to see as many auction bikes and as much hig-value inventory liquidation as possible. On Mar 2, 1:31 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Keven told me that if it sells for $2700 they probably won't do another bike, which is what I was afraid of. They need to at least get wholesale for it to make sense. Too bad, really. Hopefully a hero will come in and pay retail for it. It has a pamphlet! I bet Keven would sign it on the top tube for you! On Mar 2, 12:25 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Only one more day left! It's a total steal at the current bid. On Mar 1, 7:06 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you are right about giving folks ideas on how to set one up. The current bid is probably still below their cost on everything, not to mention zero dollars to SmileTrain. On Feb 26, 12:59 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). I am not sure. I see it as both a good deed - but also a good marketing effort. I am real fascinated with theBombadilbut unsure what I would do with one if I bought. Keven's build answers a lot of questions I had. I imagine interested Bomb buyers may now be persuaded to buy and buy close to what Keven did. On Feb 25, 1:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, I bet if you asked Grant again today, he'd say that a 56cm is a better size for him (and for you). I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). It's no longer custom spec when you've already custom spec-ed it. ;) It's no longer custom paint when it's already painted. Will there be a whole gang of tiny Saluki's coming because of what they have on hand? We will see On Feb 25, 6:20 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). sss! I am already tempted enough as it is! With NAHBS just around the corner, it is fun to see Riv showing it knows a thing or two about making practical yet amazingly good looking bikes. On Feb 24, 11:38 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hhm, I thought I noticed this frame quietly disappearing from the frame specials section of the website. It was my favorite color there, though the 48cm white with gold looks great, too. Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). Gernot On Feb 25, 12:21 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness it is several sizes too small for me...but boy does it give me some ideas. I really do need a bike with gears. :-) Aloha! Bob On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I am just a bit taller than Grant, so it appears theauctionBomb is one size too big for me. That is among the best looking Rivs I have ever seen. Wow. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
Do we know the final bid? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: ...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: but after one or two bikes go out to cheap, we're probably going to post some others on eBay. Because basicallywe're after sustainability So they are not taking the pure long-view, a loss-leader marketing exercise to give people ideas on how to set up bikes. While there may be that aspect to things, a big part is cash flow and turning over inventory. Again, here's to hoping a hero jumps in and pays the $3800 so Riv can feel good about this program. I'd like to see as many auction bikes and as much hig-value inventory liquidation as possible. On Mar 2, 1:31 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Keven told me that if it sells for $2700 they probably won't do another bike, which is what I was afraid of. They need to at least get wholesale for it to make sense. Too bad, really. Hopefully a hero will come in and pay retail for it. It has a pamphlet! I bet Keven would sign it on the top tube for you! On Mar 2, 12:25 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Only one more day left! It's a total steal at the current bid. On Mar 1, 7:06 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you are right about giving folks ideas on how to set one up. The current bid is probably still below their cost on everything, not to mention zero dollars to SmileTrain. On Feb 26, 12:59 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). I am not sure. I see it as both a good deed - but also a good marketing effort. I am real fascinated with theBombadilbut unsure what I would do with one if I bought. Keven's build answers a lot of questions I had. I imagine interested Bomb buyers may now be persuaded to buy and buy close to what Keven did. On Feb 25, 1:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, I bet if you asked Grant again today, he'd say that a 56cm is a better size for him (and for you). I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). It's no longer custom spec when you've already custom spec-ed it. ;) It's no longer custom paint when it's already painted. Will there be a whole gang of tiny Saluki's coming because of what they have on hand? We will see On Feb 25, 6:20 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). sss! I am already tempted enough as it is! With NAHBS just around the corner, it is fun to see Riv showing it knows a thing or two about making practical yet amazingly good looking bikes. On Feb 24, 11:38 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hhm, I thought I noticed this frame quietly disappearing from the frame specials section of the website. It was my favorite color there, though the 48cm white with gold looks great, too. Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). Gernot On Feb 25, 12:21 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness it is several sizes too small for me...but boy does it give me some ideas. I really do need a bike with gears. :-) Aloha! Bob On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I am just a bit taller than Grant, so it appears theauctionBomb is one size too big for me. That is among the best looking Rivs I have ever seen. Wow. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction
Website says $3K. And if the person who I think bought it bought it, this is but one more addition to a very nice fleet 'o Rivs. Ryan On Mar 3, 12:25 pm, Anthony Castellino rubiconmanagem...@gmail.com wrote: Do we know the final bid? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: ...and now Riv confirms the decision-making: but after one or two bikes go out to cheap, we're probably going to post some others on eBay. Because basicallywe're after sustainability So they are not taking the pure long-view, a loss-leader marketing exercise to give people ideas on how to set up bikes. While there may be that aspect to things, a big part is cash flow and turning over inventory. Again, here's to hoping a hero jumps in and pays the $3800 so Riv can feel good about this program. I'd like to see as many auction bikes and as much hig-value inventory liquidation as possible. On Mar 2, 1:31 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Keven told me that if it sells for $2700 they probably won't do another bike, which is what I was afraid of. They need to at least get wholesale for it to make sense. Too bad, really. Hopefully a hero will come in and pay retail for it. It has a pamphlet! I bet Keven would sign it on the top tube for you! On Mar 2, 12:25 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Only one more day left! It's a total steal at the current bid. On Mar 1, 7:06 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you are right about giving folks ideas on how to set one up. The current bid is probably still below their cost on everything, not to mention zero dollars to SmileTrain. On Feb 26, 12:59 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). I am not sure. I see it as both a good deed - but also a good marketing effort. I am real fascinated with theBombadilbut unsure what I would do with one if I bought. Keven's build answers a lot of questions I had. I imagine interested Bomb buyers may now be persuaded to buy and buy close to what Keven did. On Feb 25, 1:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, I bet if you asked Grant again today, he'd say that a 56cm is a better size for him (and for you). I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike. I think it is genuinely risky to sell a pre-built bike when their niche includes people having the choice to spec a bike to their tastes (even though the vast majority do a 'standard' riv build). It's no longer custom spec when you've already custom spec-ed it. ;) It's no longer custom paint when it's already painted. Will there be a whole gang of tiny Saluki's coming because of what they have on hand? We will see On Feb 25, 6:20 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). sss! I am already tempted enough as it is! With NAHBS just around the corner, it is fun to see Riv showing it knows a thing or two about making practical yet amazingly good looking bikes. On Feb 24, 11:38 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hhm, I thought I noticed this frame quietly disappearing from the frame specials section of the website. It was my favorite color there, though the 48cm white with gold looks great, too. Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem (though a bit more standover would be nice if I actually bought one). Gernot On Feb 25, 12:21 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness it is several sizes too small for me...but boy does it give me some ideas. I really do need a bike with gears. :-) Aloha! Bob On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I am just a bit taller than Grant, so it appears theauctionBomb is one size too big for me. That is among the best looking Rivs I have ever seen. Wow. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners
Re: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
I do know that whatever the answer is, it might be different for the larger size Roadeo. Someone at Rivendell would be able to answer if you call them. -Original Message- From: reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net Sent: Mar 3, 2010 11:12 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
i don't have any tech info regarding tubing. but, i sold my 60cm rambouillet and later bought a roadeo. the ram was overbuilt for my riding. the fit was perfect. the roadeo fits my riding. it just feels better on club rides( fast up short hills ). the stability of the ram is not missing. sincerely, don c. On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:12 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
The tubing on the larger roadeos is still a bit of a mystery. 59 and up are a touch heavier for what that is worth. When I ordered mine they explained that it was quite similar to a Legolas, but possibly lighter in the stays and fork because they do not have to braze on brake bosses. As for the Main triangle I have email/asked in vain, initially it might be .8 .5 .8 but that was never confirmed. Also, my seat and down tubes bulge to a larger OD as they hit the BB. Bottom line is I love the ride, I still wonder about the Ram, that one in CO is tempting to tink about, but really I should just be riding what I now own more often. Rob On Mar 3, 8:12 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My old Hillborne
Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA. That bike served me well for many years. I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills, the valleys, rain or shine. I didn't take long tours but did ride every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey Counties probably a zillion times. Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA. This place is flat. Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither could I. We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we just pedaled. Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt, shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike. Naturally I went to a bicycle store. Unfortunately very few of the things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit garage sales and flea markets. Not much there either. The bikes were really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc. I wanted a steel touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and haul stuff. Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited. I had purchased a couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a… umm… Atlantic maybe? It took a while to find it but it was Rivendell. I saw they had the Hilsen. It was almost what I was looking for except it didn't have cantilevers. It made number 2 on my list. The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of others but nothing made number 1 so far. After about four more months of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers! Finally a strong possible number 1. In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek. My first visit to Rivendell and I was impressed. Very friendly people and seeing the bikes in person was awe inspiring! The one Hillborne was out but Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one (Atlantis), here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen) until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong. The Lotus was way to small. It was like riding a circus tricycle. I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain. The Hillborne feels like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on. It takes the flats, hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a duck. The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for me to look back on. I'm surprised by how many places I've been with the bike considering how little free time I have. It hasn't been just back and forth to work. Bikes are a great way to get around and a comfortable bike is even better. Thank you for putting up with my story. -Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] My old Hillborne
Great photo story, Ray! I love the fun of experimenting with different builds - tires/bags/etc... It seems like Rivs are the perfect bikes to morph into many great rides. All rounders, all the way! Brian (currently contemplating build #3 or 4? on his AHH) Seattle On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA. That bike served me well for many years. I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills, the valleys, rain or shine. I didn't take long tours but did ride every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey Counties probably a zillion times. Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA. This place is flat. Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither could I. We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we just pedaled. Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt, shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike. Naturally I went to a bicycle store. Unfortunately very few of the things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit garage sales and flea markets. Not much there either. The bikes were really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc. I wanted a steel touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and haul stuff. Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited. I had purchased a couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a… umm… Atlantic maybe? It took a while to find it but it was Rivendell. I saw they had the Hilsen. It was almost what I was looking for except it didn't have cantilevers. It made number 2 on my list. The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of others but nothing made number 1 so far. After about four more months of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers! Finally a strong possible number 1. In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek. My first visit to Rivendell and I was impressed. Very friendly people and seeing the bikes in person was awe inspiring! The one Hillborne was out but Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one (Atlantis), here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen) until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong. The Lotus was way to small. It was like riding a circus tricycle. I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain. The Hillborne feels like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on. It takes the flats, hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a duck. The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for me to look back on. I'm surprised by how many places I've been with the bike considering how little free time I have. It hasn't been just back and forth to work. Bikes are a great way to get around and a comfortable bike is even better. Thank you for putting up with my story. -Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] My old Hillborne
I know what you felt. I ended up buying that Hillsen floor model. Great bike. Tho' I am seriously thinking of replacing with 160 mm Q Sugino with a narrower crank -- and possibly the B17 which, though comfortable, has to be a bit high-nosed, which causes its own problems. We'll see. Question for y'all: with a 135 OL spaced rear wheel with seven (7) speed rear hub, what spindle ought I to use for a Cyclotourist triple? Thanks. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] My old Hillborne
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I know what you felt. I ended up buying that Hillsen floor model. Of course I didn't say what I meant; I meant Hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
From what I recall, the smaller frame sizes use heat-treated OS tubing with .6/.38/.6. butts and bellies. My memory is not so good on the larger frame sizes, but something like OS .8/.5/.8 seems to ring a bell (but don't quote me on it). Grant outlined it in a post on this list, but I cannot find it right off the bat in the archives. With a little digging I'm sure someone could uncover it. Aaron On Mar 3, 8:12 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] My old Hillborne
Hi Ray, great write up and photos of the evolution of Sam! On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA. That bike served me well for many years. I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills, the valleys, rain or shine. I didn't take long tours but did ride every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey Counties probably a zillion times. Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA. This place is flat. Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither could I. We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we just pedaled. Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt, shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike. Naturally I went to a bicycle store. Unfortunately very few of the things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit garage sales and flea markets. Not much there either. The bikes were really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc. I wanted a steel touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and haul stuff. Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited. I had purchased a couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a… umm… Atlantic maybe? It took a while to find it but it was Rivendell. I saw they had the Hilsen. It was almost what I was looking for except it didn't have cantilevers. It made number 2 on my list. The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of others but nothing made number 1 so far. After about four more months of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers! Finally a strong possible number 1. In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek. My first visit to Rivendell and I was impressed. Very friendly people and seeing the bikes in person was awe inspiring! The one Hillborne was out but Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one (Atlantis), here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen) until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong. The Lotus was way to small. It was like riding a circus tricycle. I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain. The Hillborne feels like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on. It takes the flats, hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a duck. The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for me to look back on. I'm surprised by how many places I've been with the bike considering how little free time I have. It hasn't been just back and forth to work. Bikes are a great way to get around and a comfortable bike is even better. Thank you for putting up with my story. -Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne
129mm approx, that is what I had to do for my Atlantis. Especially if the stays are bowed out (like Atlantis). SKF has one that might work, or you can find an old UN-72, or a TA Axix. Of course there is always Phil Wood. Gabe On Mar 3, 10:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I know what you felt. I ended up buying that Hillsen floor model. Great bike. Tho' I am seriously thinking of replacing with 160 mm Q Sugino with a narrower crank -- and possibly the B17 which, though comfortable, has to be a bit high-nosed, which causes its own problems. We'll see. Question for y'all: with a 135 OL spaced rear wheel with seven (7) speed rear hub, what spindle ought I to use for a Cyclotourist triple? Thanks. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
