date:20100312

All this talk about the new Rodeo prompts me to ask how it rides compared to
the other Riv models: Ram, Rom, Sam, AHH, Atlantis, Legolas?

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[RBW] Re: V-Brake lever question

2010-03-12 Thread Michael_S

I thought it was a skink? which is in the lizard family but with
different physical attributes than true lizards.

and if you do choose v-brakes... the best design out there is the CC
Direct Curve.
I've alway felt though, that well adjusted cantilevers stop just as
well and look much better than any v-brake.

http://www.canecreek.com/component-other?product=direct-curve-5

~Mike~

On Mar 12, 6:37 am, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote:
C'mon... L-I-Z-A-R-D-S!!! How can you put a price on lizards?
Priceless...

Speaking of lizards and priceless... if you haven't seen it on
youtube... the Lego version of Eddie Izzard's Death Star Canteen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw

As for the finish, etc., the CC's are very nice and the overall
quality is excellent.

On Mar 11, 10:33 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the lead!

Has anyone determined if there is a difference between CC and Tektros, other
than finish and lizards?

On Mar 8, 10:36 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
What are the down-sides to using a regular road lever (Tektro/Cane
Creek)
with V- Brakes?

I'm starting to piece together a mtn. bike (frame TBD). I'm starting
with
what I have lying around and going from there...

FWIW, Cane Creek has a really nice looking updated version. Pricey as
all
get out though.
http://harriscyclery.net/product/dia-compe-scr-5v-drop-levers-for-v-b...

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Ron MH

I'd echo all the comments here regarding the Carradice Barley. I have
a Pendle and it's big enough for all my commuting gear. The Barley
sounds perfect for your hypothetical bike (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

As David said, happy hypothetical birthday!

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread Michael_S

I think the new Marathon Extreme in a 700x40 would be the cat's
pajama's.

I wonder how big a tire can be squeezed in the Hunqua?  I've been
eyeing the Kenda Karma in a 29 x 1.9 for my Hillborne. which would
probably be the biggest I could use.

and watching that video makes me want to go riding. Mud and all.

~Mike~


On Mar 12, 2:06 am, mundo edmundal...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 Oh no! Can't view the video here in the UK - YouTube have blocked it
 'cos of the soundtrack - dammit

 On Mar 12, 4:55 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:



  Nice video. Thanks for putting it together and posting it.

  --mike

  On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:

   Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).

   Just posted on YouTube.

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[RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread JoelMatthews

If you plug in a route and find a problem, send feed back!

As others have mentioned, this is a beta program.  Google will most
likely make changes based on the feedback.  This has great potential.
We can help Google make it more helpful for us.

On Mar 12, 7:43 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
 to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
 me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
 highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
 are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
 GeorgeS

 On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi all,
  Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
  bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
  works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
  close to how I prefer. Check it out.

  Dave Minyard
  Santa Maria, Ca.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Ken Yokanovich

I simply love it. I used to use the walking option, though the
Bicycling option seems to do an even better job of picking a route.
(Yes, it likely does make some decisions on keeping the route shorter
in certain instances.)

One of the many great things about Google Maps is that you click on
the route and drag it to different roads.  It is VERY easy to
customize your route.  You can RIGHT-CLICK (sorry cannot help you Mac
people) on the map and Add Destination.  So initial routes might not
be perfect, there are LOTS of ways to visually review your route using
satellite view and change your route.  I thought it did a pretty
decent job of picking an acceptable route.  For instance, here is a
link to an anticipated route for this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/yzoc8c8

On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
 bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
 works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
 close to how I prefer. Check it out.

 Dave Minyard
 Santa Maria, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-12 Thread montana_cyclist

The ones I used in the 50s and 60s were narrow and allowed a lot of
the shiny hub to show.

On Mar 11, 4:15 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, help me understand these things. Why on earth would anyone use
 them? I have no trouble understanding that they'd do a fine job of
 shining your hubs (as if that really mattered). But, then again, in
 use they hide the hub and thus you can't see the shine anyway. Do
 people with hubshiners remove them for special occasions so they can
 actually experience the blinding bling of their hubs or do they keep
 the hub shiner on at all times like those people who cover their
 furniture with clear vinyl so that the couch stays nice and clean?

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Connell

For Twin Cities cyclists, i'll give a little plug for the Cyclopath
project at the U of MN: http://cyclopath.org/

It's a wiki approach to route mapping, so users can enter routes,
notes, and destinations anywhere on the map, and it's constantly
improving. It's an excellent resource for on- and off-road routes all
around town, but it covers only the Twin Cities metro area, so i'm
really happy to have a bicycle route option on Google. Plus, Cyclopath
was recently released as open source, if anyone wants to start their
own regional map!
-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Ken Yokanovich
reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote:
 I simply love it. I used to use the walking option, though the
 Bicycling option seems to do an even better job of picking a route.
 (Yes, it likely does make some decisions on keeping the route shorter
 in certain instances.)

 One of the many great things about Google Maps is that you click on
 the route and drag it to different roads.  It is VERY easy to
 customize your route.  You can RIGHT-CLICK (sorry cannot help you Mac
 people) on the map and Add Destination.  So initial routes might not
 be perfect, there are LOTS of ways to visually review your route using
 satellite view and change your route.  I thought it did a pretty
 decent job of picking an acceptable route.  For instance, here is a
 link to an anticipated route for this weekend:

 http://tinyurl.com/yzoc8c8

 On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
 bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
 works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
 close to how I prefer. Check it out.

 Dave Minyard
 Santa Maria, Ca.

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[RBW] Screwing around with names (was Rodeos and other Rivs)

2010-03-12 Thread James Warren

Your word order made me realize something. Do you all realize that the when/if the Soma bike starts being made, the following bikes will be a part of Rivendell history:

Ram/Rom/Sam/Som

And it will be important that we be allowed to abbreviate the Somaname this way and benefit from the time saving from not having to write thatcumbersom "a" at the end.

Currently, there's a Bom, but no Bam. They might have to make a new bike now. (Kind of like how astronomers discovered Neptune by looking where it should be theoreticallybased on the gravity patterns that had finally been fully described.)

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 8:50 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote:
 For the Roadeo, put the stuff in the back,  a Carradice Barley is an
 excellent bag for what you
 are talking about, add a set of toe straps for tying your wet goretex
 jacket to the outside of the bag.

+1.  you can jam a lot of stuff into a barley (or the equivalent acorn
saddlebag).  and the loops for strapping stuff to the outside of the
bag is a really nice feature - it's probably the one thing a i prefer
about a saddlebag compared to an h-bar bag.  there are ways to rig a
wet jacket/jersey with an h-bar bag (or you could just strap it under
the saddle), but a saddlebag makes this very easy.  also, no racks
required and you could easily remove when you don't need it (club
ride, etc.).

a seatpouch would also work, but it makes it more finicky to tie down
a wet jacket.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Bruce

Another Carradice bag that deserves consideration is the Cadet. Capacious 
without the smaller outer pockets (It's the guts of a Nelson or Nelson 
longflap) and reasonably priced. Accepts outside straps for tying wet/extra 
gear to.

The Barley (11 x 6)  has 7 liters of space and retails for $109.00

The Cadet (14 x 10) has 13 liters of space and retails for $85.00.

And for good measure, the Junior, 8 liters for $74.00 but no provision for 
exterior straps.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp







From: Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:01:21 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 8:50 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote:
 For the Roadeo, put the stuff in the back,  a Carradice Barley is an
 excellent bag for what you
 are talking about, add a set of toe straps for tying your wet goretex
 jacket to the outside of the bag.

+1.  you can jam a lot of stuff into a barley (or the equivalent acorn
saddlebag).  and the loops for strapping stuff to the outside of the
bag is a really nice feature - it's probably the one thing a i prefer
about a saddlebag compared to an h-bar bag.  there are ways to rig a
wet jacket/jersey with an h-bar bag (or you could just strap it under
the saddle), but a saddlebag makes this very easy.  also, no racks
required and you could easily remove when you don't need it (club
ride, etc.).

a seatpouch would also work, but it makes it more finicky to tie down
a wet jacket.


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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Shaun Meehan

I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
time, I would hesitate to report it as a problem because it *is*
ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
the problem routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
through the feedback.

Shaun Meehan

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
 I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
 selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
 avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
 think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
 problem link.

 --
 Jon “Papa” Grant
 Illustration + Information Graphics
 Austin, Texas
 jgr...@papagrant.com
 512-284-9599

 Drawings — all sorts


 
 From: Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps

 it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select bicycling as
 the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
 you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
 the issue.

 Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
 home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
 to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).

 Looking forward to it!

 Ethan

 On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
 to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
 me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
 highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
 are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
 GeorgeS

 On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
  Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
  for
  bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
  it
  works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
  real
  close to how I prefer. Check it out.

  Dave Minyard
  Santa Maria, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Connell

In cases like this, it might help to just quantify the things about
the route that make the road challenging: width of the shoulder, speed
of the traffic, etc., and let each rider decide. I haven't spent any
time with the Google version, but in Cyclopath i've made comments like
traffic 60mph, light outside of rush hour, wide shoulder, but rumble
strip leaves no room to ride 2 abreast.

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
 data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
 for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
 mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
 even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
 two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
 cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
 hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
 time, I would hesitate to report it as a problem because it *is*
 ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
 the problem routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
 led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
 so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
 through the feedback.

 Shaun Meehan

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
 I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
 selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
 avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
 think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
 problem link.

 --
 Jon “Papa” Grant
 Illustration + Information Graphics
 Austin, Texas
 jgr...@papagrant.com
 512-284-9599

 Drawings — all sorts


 
 From: Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps

 it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select bicycling as
 the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
 you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
 the issue.

 Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
 home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
 to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).

 Looking forward to it!

 Ethan

 On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
 to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
 me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
 highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
 are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
 GeorgeS

 On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
  Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
  for
  bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
  it
  works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
  real
  close to how I prefer. Check it out.

  Dave Minyard
  Santa Maria, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Ken Yokanovich

There really is no difference in the auto-centric world though.  My
wife will jump on the freeway to go a mile, I prefer to drive like I
ride.  I am generally a back-road and side-street route-goer.  If I
look for directions via any route-planner I get a route on major
freeways.

This is one of the few things that I like about Cyclopath that Bill C
mentioned.  It gives users the ability to create a profile and
personal ratings on roads and routes with options for route-planning
based on preferences for distance or bike-ability.  It's lack of
mapping coverage area, lack of options to manipulate route, flash-
based interface, and even some weirdness to getting it to plan a route
I want out-weigh its usefulness to me though.

On Mar 12, 10:18 am, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
 data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
 for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
 mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
 even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
 two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
 cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
 hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
 time, I would hesitate to report it as a problem because it *is*
 ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
 the problem routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
 led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
 so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
 through the feedback.

 Shaun Meehan



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
  I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
  selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
  avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
  think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
  problem link.

  --
  Jon “Papa” Grant
  Illustration + Information Graphics
  Austin, Texas
  jgr...@papagrant.com
  512-284-9599

  Drawings — all sorts

  
  From: Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com
  Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps

  it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select bicycling as
  the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
  you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
  the issue.

  Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
  home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
  to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).

  Looking forward to it!

  Ethan

  On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
  To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
  to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
  me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
  highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
  are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
  GeorgeS

  On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi all,
   Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
   for
   bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
   it
   works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
   real
   close to how I prefer. Check it out.

   Dave Minyard
   Santa Maria, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 11:13 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Another Carradice bag that deserves consideration is the Cadet. Capacious 
 without the smaller outer pockets (It's the guts of a Nelson or Nelson 
 longflap) and reasonably priced. Accepts outside straps for tying wet/extra 
 gear to.

 The Barley (11 x 6)  has 7 liters of space and retails for $109.00

 The Cadet (14 x 10) has 13 liters of space and retails for $85.00.

 And for good measure, the Junior, 8 liters for $74.00 but no provision for 
 exterior straps.

 http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

FYI - the last time i checked, the barley is available for around $50
from wiggle or sjs cycles in England.

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Shaun Meehan

I just checked out the Cyclopath website (thanks for the link btw) and
I like it a lot. It gives me the same route that Google selected but
when I click on the rating function it shows the dicey section that
I described as poor and then once you get past a certain point it
shoots up into the excellent range, which is exactly how I'd rate it
when I ride it on my Quickbeam (obligatory Riv content because this
thread is pretty OT although very interesting). I was also surprised
it had data on my commute because I'm pretty far north of the metro.
Very cool!

Shaun Meehan

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
 In cases like this, it might help to just quantify the things about
 the route that make the road challenging: width of the shoulder, speed
 of the traffic, etc., and let each rider decide. I haven't spent any
 time with the Google version, but in Cyclopath i've made comments like
 traffic 60mph, light outside of rush hour, wide shoulder, but rumble
 strip leaves no room to ride 2 abreast.

 --
 Bill Connell
 St. Paul, MN



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
 data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
 for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
 mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
 even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
 two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
 cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
 hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
 time, I would hesitate to report it as a problem because it *is*
 ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
 the problem routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
 led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
 so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
 through the feedback.

 Shaun Meehan

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
 I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
 selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
 avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
 think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
 problem link.

 --
 Jon “Papa” Grant
 Illustration + Information Graphics
 Austin, Texas
 jgr...@papagrant.com
 512-284-9599

 Drawings — all sorts


 
 From: Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps

 it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select bicycling as
 the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
 you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
 the issue.

 Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
 home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
 to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).

 Looking forward to it!

 Ethan

 On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
 to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
 me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
 highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
 are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
 GeorgeS

 On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
  Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
  for
  bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
  it
  works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
  real
  close to how I prefer. Check it out.

  Dave Minyard
  Santa Maria, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Good way to spend your Mondays...

2010-03-12 Thread Jim M.

Nice pics! Looks like a great ride. Where's that bike path
undercrossing? I don't recognize that spot.

jim

On Mar 11, 8:49 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Got off of school early on Monday so I joined my road buddy Tommy to a
 quick bike ride to my old college, CSU East Bay. Getting there as
 quickly as we can we were greeting with beautiful weather until we got
 to the steepest part Campus Drive and then hail comes from the sky to
 make our decent down exciting and dangerous. We cut through the back
 of the college to find a nice little single track that took us into
 Garin Regional Park. After getting lost for a bit we find our way back
 and instead of going home we took a detour to Oyster Bay to cross the
 not finished bridge that connects to the oakland airport. Finished
 with an awesome sunset. Great day to spend a Monday.

 Pictures prove that the story isn't fake:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623459129607/

 -Manny Monday can be exciting Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Bruce

Then perhaps the other bags are equally good deals? Any duty to pay when 
ordering from overseas?

From: Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:41:12 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

FYI - the last time i checked, the barley is available for around $50
from wiggle or sjs cycles in England.

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv for Centuries, Charity Rides, Supported Touring

2010-03-12 Thread D. Goff

Let me know how you like the touring capabilities of your Sam!  I will
post pics when mine gets delivered.  Build is being done by Mark at
Saturday Cycles, Utah.

D.G.

On Mar 11, 11:36 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, you will, you will.

 Give us your evaluations and photos of the SH. I just bought one to do
 loaded touring on and found it surprisingly fast. Photos from me shortly,
 after I install fenders, Ostrich with decaleur, possibly lower-Q crank, and
 new dynohub front wheel.

 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote:
  Thanks for the input everyone.

  I pulled the trigger on a Sam today which will be my first Rivendell
  and seems capable enough.  Will get to know that bike first then
  consider whether I need another!

  --

 Patrick Moore
 Albuquerque, NM
 For professional resumes, contact
 Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
 (505) 227-0523

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread EricP

Another vote for the Barley.  It's the default saddle bag on my
Hillborne.

Find the outside pockets useful for keeping a spare tube on one side
and often a camera in the other.

If you don't need the pockets, and just a bit more space another
option could be the Sackville small.

FWIW, there is an Acorn large saddlebag on eBay.  (Somebody needs to
buy it before I'm foolish and click buy it now.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mar 12, 10:57 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Then perhaps the other bags are equally good deals? Any duty to pay when 
 ordering from overseas?

 
 From: Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:41:12 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

 FYI - the last time i checked, the barley is available for around $50
 from wiggle or sjs cycles in England.

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[RBW] Re: Good way to spend your Mondays...

2010-03-12 Thread manueljohnacosta

It's the Ron Cowan Pwy. Right next to the Oakland Airport. Always a
cool easy ride through.

-Manny

On Mar 12, 8:50 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice pics! Looks like a great ride. Where's that bike path
 undercrossing? I don't recognize that spot.

 jim

 On Mar 11, 8:49 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
 wrote:



  Got off of school early on Monday so I joined my road buddy Tommy to a
  quick bike ride to my old college, CSU East Bay. Getting there as
  quickly as we can we were greeting with beautiful weather until we got
  to the steepest part Campus Drive and then hail comes from the sky to
  make our decent down exciting and dangerous. We cut through the back
  of the college to find a nice little single track that took us into
  Garin Regional Park. After getting lost for a bit we find our way back
  and instead of going home we took a detour to Oyster Bay to cross the
  not finished bridge that connects to the oakland airport. Finished
  with an awesome sunset. Great day to spend a Monday.

  Pictures prove that the story isn't fake:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623459129607/

  -Manny Monday can be exciting Acosta

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[RBW] Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

I'm probably not alone for having a little bit of nostalgia for high
quality cycling shoes that work well with toe clips and straps.  I
still have my old Sidi Cycle Titaniums that I use at my vacation spot
in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1.  I pretty much keep
my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe.  Yes,
I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
always want to run those.

As I'm sure many of you have seen, all the vintage shoes you'll find
are tiny.  37-40 is easy.  45 is hard.  Imagine my surprise when I
found a NOS New In Box set of Detto Pietro full-leather cycling shoes
in a 45 on ebay.  I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
them for a bit under $100.  The box has the model name 'Cross' written
on it.  I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
those in design and aesthetics.  The full leather sole has a slotted
rubber tread on the toe.  Too far forward to engage the hind cage of a
toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

I took them to the cobbler to get a heel put on to protect the sole
when I step.  He was kind of an ornery English coot, and insisted the
rubber tread was aftermarket, and refused to work on them until after
I used them and was certain I liked them.  I found that odd, but
left.  Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes.  Do any of you recognize
the model?  Have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar geometry?

2010-03-12 Thread newenglandbike

It looks like the top-tube on the 62cm frame in the photo is about
62.5cm long (horizontal).It's hard to be exact but I got this
number using the 'measure tool' in photoshop to count the number of
pixels along the seat-tube C-T, and from the seat lug to the HT C-C,
and employing some ratio arithmetic to derive the TT length.

The front-center length looks like about 66.3 cm.

And yes, I have way too much time on my hands.



On Mar 12, 3:31 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Are the full specs available anywhere, particularly: theoretical TT
 length, ST angle, HT angle, and chain stay length?  What are the
 differences between the Hunqapillar and the the too-long-in-the-top-
 tube Bombadil?  I'm interested in the largest size.

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread nathan spindel

I don't know, but I would like to share this awesome related photo I
recently found:

Fédérico Ezquerra, 25 years old in 1934 Tour de France:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaalarchief/3675431792/sizes/o/

-nathan

On Thursday, March 11, 2010, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of posters, but not of H posters, where can one buy posters of some 
 of those old, famous photos of Coppi and Bartali (together or singly) in the 
 mountains?



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

G. says a 60mm Big Apple on the original pdf. I don't know how that
translates in knobbies though. I'd want to run Nanoraptors.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

I think the new Marathon Extreme in a 700x40 would be the cat's
pajama's.

I wonder how big a tire can be squeezed in the Hunqua? I've been
eyeing the Kenda Karma in a 29 x 1.9 for my Hillborne. which would
probably be the biggest I could use.

and watching that video makes me want to go riding. Mud and all.

~Mike~

On Mar 12, 2:06 am, mundo edmundal...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
Oh no! Can't view the video here in the UK - YouTube have blocked it
'cos of the soundtrack - dammit

On Mar 12, 4:55 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice video. Thanks for putting it together and posting it.

--mike

On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:

Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).

Just posted on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Connell

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:32 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of posters, but not of H posters, where can one buy posters of some
 of those old, famous photos of Coppi and Bartali (together or singly) in the
 mountains?


They don't seem to have poster prints (wouldn't that be great), but
you can get prints of the photos at the Wool Jersey galleries. There
are some great ones in Aldo's Pic of the Day set:
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/

-- 
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St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread rob markwardt

Like all posts on bike/component likes/dislikes I should have prefaced
with  IMO, however, I'm a rain rider so I'm kind of picky.  I like
metal because they are longer (yours do look like an improvement
though), I think they are more secure (if installed correctly), less
rattley (sp?...know what I mean?), they don't warp, and, most
importantly..IMO...they look better!



On Mar 12, 12:01 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mar 12, 2:05 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Those do look nice but, once you go metal you'll never go back.

 I am not saying you are wrong, but why? Aesthetics, durability,...?

 Gernot



  If  you are in Seattle I've got a used pair of black SKS's that I'd
  give away.

  On Mar 11, 7:15 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

they look better than the normal sks fenders

do you think you could take a shot of them down the length of the
bike? Like from the back?

Thanks!
-sv

   Like this?

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4425669203/in/photostream/

   Let me know if you want other angles...- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread doug peterson

Way cool!  The best video I've seen in a long time; really shows the
versatility.  And the bike looks kinda neat in bare metal.  I'm always
envious of people who can take photos / videos from their bike.

dougP

On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).

 Just posted on YouTube.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread doug peterson

Phil:

California, duuude!  Fenders optional :).

dougP

On Mar 11, 5:48 pm, Phil Roberts lugsnst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Butbutwhere are the fenders?

 I'm just imagining the mud everywhere. Including the rider. Nice editing.

 Phil



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  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:16 PM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:
   Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).

   Just posted on YouTube.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM

  This is great! The kind of 'advertisement' that gets people to really
  pay attention.

  well done.
  -sv

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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread tarik saleh

Velogear publishes and sells many of the old timey images of the tour
de france posters:
http://www.velogear.com/products.asp?dept=171

I did not see the coppi ones there. Might try bianchiusa:
http://www.bianchiusa.com/store/collections/fausto-coppi.html
no obvious posters, but I did not look too closely.



Hmm...




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 Speaking of posters, but not of H posters, where can one buy posters of some
 of those old, famous photos of Coppi and Bartali (together or singly) in the
 mountains?

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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know, but I would like to share this awesome related photo I
 recently found:

 Fédérico Ezquerra, 25 years old in 1934 Tour de France:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaalarchief/3675431792/sizes/o/

 -nathan

 Thatsa nice. The archetypical photos I have in mind are:

 http://www.ilquotidiano.it/userdata/immagini/foto/414/bartali_61530.jpg

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http://pedalrevolutionblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/coppi.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 G. says a 60mm Big Apple on the original pdf.  I don't know how that
 translates in knobbies though.  I'd want to run Nanoraptors.



With how much room, sides and top, does anyone know? 65s with fenders and
pebble clearance? Hell, I just committed to ~$600 to turn my sow's ear
Monocog 29er frameset into a silk purse with all the brazeons to be added,
plus larger rotor in front, new hs and new, nice, heavy duty rack in back,
plus new powdercoat.

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[RBW] SBC moose-style bar FS

2010-03-12 Thread b hamon

Cr-MO Moose style handlebar with 22.2 stem.
Good condition.
30.00 shipped in con us.
Pix here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4427912382/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4427144953/

Please reply off-list if interested.
Check or paypal ok.
Thanks --bh


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http://veloquent.blogspot.com


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

Wonderful video -- wonder what the videographer was riding.

Get rid of that pansy der drivetrain, add a he-man ss drivetrain and
fenders, and you would have something very excellent.

I must visit the Walnut Creek area; it looks like wonderful riding,
combining everything from mud and singletrack to smoothish paved downhills.
(No character-testing sand, though.)

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[RBW] FS Rawland Sogn-large (change in price)

2010-03-12 Thread Joe Bartoe


Hi Everyone, 



I would like to sell the whole bike if I can, but if you'd like the frame or 
parts, we can talk about it.


 
I have a Large Rawland Canti Sogn for sale built as follows: 

 
Rawland Sogn Canti-Large Frame (Component Specs as follows):Cane Creek 
 Aheadset, Thomson Black Stem, On-One Mary Bar, Paul Love Brake Levers, 
 Paul Thumbies with 9 Speed Dura Ace Shifters, Paul Moto BMX brakes, 
 Phil Wood Stainless BB, Sugino XD Triple Crankset, Velocity Synergy 
 wheels (32H) laced to Shimano LX Hubs (Riv-Rich-built), Pacenti Neo-Moto 
Tires, Shimano 
 XT 9 speed Rear Derailleur, Campy Racing T Front Derailleur, Shimano 9 
 speed 12/32 cassette, Thomson Black setback seatpost, WTB Pure V 
 Saddle, and MKS Touring Pedals. 

 
The
only components that were not new when built were the Campy Racing T FD
and the MKS touring pedals. Even now, the bike has less than 100 miles
on it. I just don't use it as is and would like to get some money back
out of it. I would be willing to part it out if people would like to
make offers that are reasonable. Altogether, I have around $1900
invested here and I'd like to get $1200 for the built-up bike. I'll
listen to offers if they're not really off-base. 

 
I would
consider a partial trade for an Olaf if anyone has one they'd like to
swap. I will send pics to those seriously interested. Please don't ask
if you're not as I don't have time to send pics off to everyone. 

 
Thanks, 

 
Joe   
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Re: [RBW] FS: 47 cm Atlantis complete bike

2010-03-12 Thread James Dinneen

The Atlantis is a very different bike from the Roadeo. She might be glad to 
have it as an option. Replacing it would be a lot more expensive than keeping. 
Jim D   Massachusetts

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Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: 47 cm Atlantis complete bike
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 9:16 PM

No Debbie, don't do it!

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, J. Douglas Way d...@mines.edu wrote:

Hi-

Debbie's new Roadeo is about to arrive so we'd like to sell her 47 cm Atlantis. 
 This bike has about 4500 mostly road miles on it.  It was purchased new from 
Campus Cycles in Denver, CO in the fall of 2003.  The bike has a mountain bikey 
build with Shimano XT components and a Dura Ace 11-23 cassette.  The 
combination of the mountain crank (22-32-44 chainrings) and road cassette gives 
a gear ratio range of 23 to 98 gear inches.  The 26 inch (559 mm ISO) wheels 
have Mavic 517 rims, DT 14-15 butted spokes, and XT hubs.

Pictures on Flickr are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25652...@n05/sets/72157623474638354/

or

http://tinyurl.com/y8k3dx8

We'd like $1600 for the complete bike including shipping to the lower 48 
WITHOUT the Brooks saddle and pedals.  If you really want the saddle and 
pedals, let's negotiate something.  If you pick up the bike, the price is $1500.

Let us know if you'd like more pictures and/or additional information about the 
bike.

Thanks,

Doug Way

in snowy Boulder, CO

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 11:57 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Then perhaps the other bags are equally good deals? Any duty to pay when 
 ordering from overseas?

yes, i'm sure there are equally good deals on the other bags noted. I
don't particularly like buying from overseas - but wiggle (and sjs)
both offer free shipping on orders around $75 or so.  no duty tax.

in addition to carradice bags, they also offer very good deals on
tubus racks, brooks saddles, schmidt/BM lights, etc.

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[RBW] Re: Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Thanks for the plug, Dave, and thanks for buying the poster. We have a
few left, so if anybody wants one, let me know. See here:
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/02/hiawatha-cyclery-poster.html

On Mar 11, 10:30 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 I received the new Hiawatha Cyclery poster and it's beautiful! Signed,
 numbered (35/55) and dated by the artist as well. It will be getting framed
 and hung very soon. Looks like something new to collect.

 Dave Minyard
 Santa Maria, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread carnerda...@bellsouth.net


George,
Not sure that was a fair test, as there are no alternative routes that 
would be more bike-friendly.  The only reasonable alternative would have 
been: Get a boat.

David

GeorgeS wrote:

To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
GeorgeS

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Hi all,
Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
close to how I prefer. Check it out.

Dave Minyard
Santa Maria, Ca.



  


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[RBW] Re: Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread Leslie

Mine arrived today, 14/55.   It's wonderful!Once I get it framed,
I need to decide if it's going in my office at home, or at work.

-L


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 Thanks for the plug, Dave, and thanks for buying the poster. We have a
 few left, so if anybody wants one, let me know. See 
 here:http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/02/hiawatha-cyclery-poster.html

 On Mar 11, 10:30 pm, Dave Minyard salukiri...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
  I received the new Hiawatha Cyclery poster and it's beautiful! Signed,
  numbered (35/55) and dated by the artist as well. It will be getting framed
  and hung very soon. Looks like something new to collect.

  Dave Minyard
  Santa Maria, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Nezovich

OK, now I really feel old. I remember them. They are cyclocross
shoes. Cleats were nailed onto the sole back then. TA made some
cleats with two big spikes just
rear of the slot for the back edge of your shoe. See similar shoes
and cleats at this link: http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyclo-cross.html

On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, William wrote:

I'm probably not alone for having a little bit of nostalgia for high
quality cycling shoes that work well with toe clips and straps. I
still have my old Sidi Cycle Titaniums that I use at my vacation spot
in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1. I pretty much keep
my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe. Yes,
I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
always want to run those.

As I'm sure many of you have seen, all the vintage shoes you'll find
are tiny. 37-40 is easy. 45 is hard. Imagine my surprise when I
found a NOS New In Box set of Detto Pietro full-leather cycling shoes
in a 45 on ebay. I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
them for a bit under $100. The box has the model name 'Cross' written
on it. I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
those in design and aesthetics. The full leather sole has a slotted
rubber tread on the toe. Too far forward to engage the hind cage of a
toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

I took them to the cobbler to get a heel put on to protect the sole
when I step. He was kind of an ornery English coot, and insisted the
rubber tread was aftermarket, and refused to work on them until after
I used them and was certain I liked them. I found that odd, but
left. Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes. Do any of you recognize
the model? Have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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[RBW] Re: Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

Wow, Thomas.  Thanks very much for that link and the info.  Do you
have a ballpark guess at the age of these shoes?  I was thinking 1980
at the absolute latest.

On Mar 12, 2:03 pm, Thomas Nezovich t...@cox.net wrote:
 OK, now I really feel old.  I remember them.  They are cyclocross  
 shoes.  Cleats were nailed onto the sole back then.  TA made some  
 cleats with two big spikes just
 rear of the slot for the back edge of your shoe.  See  similar shoes  
 and cleats at this link:  
 http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyclo-cross.html
 On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, William wrote:

  I'm probably not alone for having a little bit of nostalgia for high
  quality cycling shoes that work well with toe clips and straps.  I
  still have my old Sidi Cycle Titaniums that I use at my vacation spot
  in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1.  I pretty much keep
  my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe.  Yes,
  I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
  always want to run those.

  As I'm sure many of you have seen, all the vintage shoes you'll find
  are tiny.  37-40 is easy.  45 is hard.  Imagine my surprise when I
  found a NOS New In Box set of Detto Pietro full-leather cycling shoes
  in a 45 on ebay.  I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
  them for a bit under $100.  The box has the model name 'Cross' written
  on it.  I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
  those in design and aesthetics.  The full leather sole has a slotted
  rubber tread on the toe.  Too far forward to engage the hind cage of a
  toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
  the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

  I took them to the cobbler to get a heel put on to protect the sole
  when I step.  He was kind of an ornery English coot, and insisted the
  rubber tread was aftermarket, and refused to work on them until after
  I used them and was certain I liked them.  I found that odd, but
  left.  Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

  Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes.  Do any of you recognize
  the model?  Have a look:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar geometry?

Ha, we have opposite problems.  For me the top tube is too short on the
smaller sizes that have lower standovers.

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 Hi,

 Are the full specs available anywhere, particularly: theoretical TT
 length, ST angle, HT angle, and chain stay length?  What are the
 differences between the Hunqapillar and the the too-long-in-the-top-
 tube Bombadil?  I'm interested in the largest size.

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[RBW] ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180479994729

From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
thought of these as really special bikes.

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[RBW] Re: Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

On Mar 12, 1:28 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

if you dig old school style, check out the vittoria 1976 (re-released
last year) - you could probably get these in a 45.  run 'em with
cleats or without.  sweet shoe.  available at swrve and other cool kid
shops.

http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106

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[RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Jim M.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-QUICKBEAM-60-cm-JAPAN-MADE-SINGLE-SPEED_W0QQitemZ160412669146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item25595714da

Looks like a good price, so far.

I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.

jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-QUICKBEAM-60-cm-JAPAN-MADE-SINGLE-SPEED_W0QQitemZ160412669146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item25595714da

 Looks like a good price, so far.

 I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:

7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
grand or so will allow you to Buy 'em All, an option I'm kinda glad
they don't have.

On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180479994729

From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable. I've always
thought of these as really special bikes.

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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-12 Thread Marty

Nice Bleriot Andrew. Wonder why the previous owner used the safety
mounts on the rear fender, not the front? Agree fenderless will look
great in any case.

Marty

On Mar 12, 6:36 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 here is a used one i just unboxed this morning:

 http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1922.jpg

 once i remove the other fender it'll be perfect, i think :)

 cheers,
 andrew

 On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:



  Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!

  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
  7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
  grand or so will allow you to Buy 'em All, an option I'm kinda glad
  they don't have.

  On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180479994729

   From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
   thought of these as really special bikes.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

New Rivs for everyone!

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:

Nice Bleriot Andrew. Wonder why the previous owner used the safety
mounts on the rear fender, not the front? Agree fenderless will look
great in any case.

Marty

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here is a used one i just unboxed this morning:

http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1922.jpg

once i remove the other fender it'll be perfect, i think :)

cheers,
andrew

On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
grand or so will allow you to Buy 'em All, an option I'm kinda glad
they don't have.

On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180479994729

From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable. I've always
thought of these as really special bikes.

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[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

Another shot of the Mighty Tour with rings on the Sugino site.  Looks
awesome:

http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/chainwheelset_MightytourPE110s_japan.htm

Velo Orange kind of opened the suggestion box and I suggested that
they consider bringing in the Mighty Tour.  Tom at VO said that they'd
have to sell it for $375 and had no interest in taking that kind of
risk.  Just as well I suppose, since they refuse to stock 172.5 unless
badgered incessantly.

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  My bet is that it's the new Sugino Mighty Tour, Merry(soma) from what
 I have seen has the intention of stocking them, so I bet Riv will get
 in on it. No prices that i've seen yet, but from the pictures I could
 see them retailing for 300.

 On Mar 10, 8:26 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I picked up a Sugino GX 53/39 on Ebay that is now on my Rambouillet. It was 
  orig equip on the B'stone RB-1 and has a very tight Q. I think I paid about 
  $39.95 for it with not much more than usual usage scratches from shoes on 
  it. Not as pretty as the V-O, or the upcoming RBW to be sure, but if you 
  like a light crank with low Q

  
  From: rperks perks@gmail.com
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 5:54:47 PM
  Subject: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

  I know not everybody loves low Q, but I dream of the day ritchey
  cranks in the old style come back, and yes they show up on ebay for
  the prices that it looks like RBW is asking, but the stess of bidding
  can get to be a drag, that and the addictive compulsion to stockpile.

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Leslie

Anne,

I have a medium/large Acorn on my green Ram
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/

I've got tools and a couple of tubes, and plenty of more room.
Depends on how bulky the sweater is, or the jacket, but I might be
able to get one squeezed in there, not both; but could lash one or
both on top, and stick the food in the bag (how much food, too?).
The large bag might work better, but, on a Roadeo, I'd probably not
want to go much larger than the medium/large.

FWIW...

-L


On Mar 11, 8:09 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's say, hypothetically mind you, that I was getting a Roadeo for my
 birthday. A hypothetical British racing green Roadeo, with a triple
 with nice low gears. Let's say I wanted to take that Roadeo on club
 rides, centuries and day rides. What would be the right bag to hold a
 sweater, a  Goretex jacket and some food? And some money and a tube
 and a few tools?

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

900+ views in one day!?!?!  Rivendell has gone viral!!

On Mar 12, 12:01 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wonderful video -- wonder what the videographer was riding.

 Get rid of that pansy der drivetrain, add a he-man ss drivetrain and
 fenders, and you would have something very excellent.

 I must visit the Walnut Creek area; it looks like wonderful riding,
 combining everything from mud and singletrack to smoothish paved downhills.
 (No character-testing sand, though.)

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread Marty

Nice write-up on the site now in the Bicycle Models section, and the
front page - even explains the name! Where were you riding in '76?
Rural Wisconsin for me - on whatever had air in the tires.

Marty (Admittedly, I was three of the 900)

On Mar 12, 7:49 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 900+ views in one day!?!?!  Rivendell has gone viral!!

 On Mar 12, 12:01 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:



  Wonderful video -- wonder what the videographer was riding.

  Get rid of that pansy der drivetrain, add a he-man ss drivetrain and
  fenders, and you would have something very excellent.

  I must visit the Walnut Creek area; it looks like wonderful riding,
  combining everything from mud and singletrack to smoothish paved downhills.
  (No character-testing sand, though.)

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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-12 Thread Mojo

I have to say I am really enjoying my new (last fall) Legolas. It is a
Roadeo with wider tire tolerances, well and a higher BB and probably
other differences. But I believe it shares the light tube set. The
fork has the wonderful french bend that my Curt built custrom doesn't.
It has a spritely road feel. I highly recommend this frame. Wish I
would have waited for this price. Except I love my copper color.

On Mar 12, 3:41 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180479994729

 From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
 thought of these as really special bikes.

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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Seth Vidal

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
 Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H



Your 62cm is too small so you'd get a 60cm?

maybe my math is off but 62 is still bigger than 60, right?

-sv

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[RBW] Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-12 Thread rob markwardt

I hope they sell a million of them, but you won't find one on my
bike.  Dirtyhubsage!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4428448306_ee0e5e312d.jpg

On Mar 12, 7:31 am, montana_cyclist coloag...@gmail.com wrote:
 The ones I used in the 50s and 60s were narrow and allowed a lot of
 the shiny hub to show.

 On Mar 11, 4:15 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote:



  So, help me understand these things. Why on earth would anyone use
  them? I have no trouble understanding that they'd do a fine job of
  shining your hubs (as if that really mattered). But, then again, in
  use they hide the hub and thus you can't see the shine anyway. Do
  people with hubshiners remove them for special occasions so they can
  actually experience the blinding bling of their hubs or do they keep
  the hub shiner on at all times like those people who cover their
  furniture with clear vinyl so that the couch stays nice and clean?- Hide 
  quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread RM

I have two orange Quickbeams--one with noodles and one with albatrosses. I 
don't find two to be too many at all.

Rob


On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Jim M. wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-QUICKBEAM-60-cm-JAPAN-MADE-SINGLE-SPEED_W0QQitemZ160412669146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item25595714da
 
 Looks like a good price, so far.
 
 I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.
 
 jim m
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[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-12 Thread MichaelH

I'm afraid I missed this announcement and don't see any new dbls on
the web site, although I've long wished Riv offered a good double and
a better triple.  I have this cospea, purchased from Jitensha
http://www.jitensha.com/eng/cospeacrnk_e.html.  Which is a similar to,
but understated compared to the Mity Tour.

Michael

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 I was intrigued to see today's news describing a new double crankset.
 I'm a little surprised to see that it's going to be $300.  Not that
 they can't be worth it, but Velo Orange sells a $170 Sugino double
 that they claim has every possible upgrade and upcharge that Sugino
 knows how to make in a square taper double.  It's pretty 
 saucy:http://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html I wonder how Riv's will
 differ?

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread Earl Grey

Thanks Rob. My next pair of fenders will probably be metal. I was just
curious why you liked them so much. I was under the impression that
they are more rattley, but perhaps leather washers solve that. Also, I
have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
warping problems with?

Two years ago, my parked bike, locked to a pole, was backed into be a
pickup truck. The rear rim broke (Mavic Open Pro), the rear composite
fender was fine.

I like my SKSs, but looking forward to some Honjos in my future.

G

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 Like all posts on bike/component likes/dislikes I should have prefaced
 with  IMO, however, I'm a rain rider so I'm kind of picky.  I like
 metal because they are longer (yours do look like an improvement
 though), I think they are more secure (if installed correctly), less
 rattley (sp?...know what I mean?), they don't warp, and, most
 importantly..IMO...they look better!

 On Mar 12, 12:01 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Mar 12, 2:05 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote:

   Those do look nice but, once you go metal you'll never go back.

  I am not saying you are wrong, but why? Aesthetics, durability,...?

  Gernot

   If  you are in Seattle I've got a used pair of black SKS's that I'd
   give away.

   On Mar 11, 7:15 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

 they look better than the normal sks fenders

 do you think you could take a shot of them down the length of the
 bike? Like from the back?

 Thanks!
 -sv

Like this?

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4425669203/in/photostream/

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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

Large.  62 is a touch too large... :-)

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 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
  Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H
 


 Your 62cm is too small so you'd get a 60cm?

 maybe my math is off but 62 is still bigger than 60, right?

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

OK, who's the lucky winner of a stylin' set of gloves  At the six second
mark, too!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300403845413

Hope it was a lister!

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 Long-term listers may remember I used to have a 61cm Bleriot that I built
 up from a bare frame.   I eventually decided to sell it to finance a
 Rivendell custom I came across.  Luckily I was able to sell it to my best
 friend Rob.  That was a few years ago.  He isn't riding it like he hoped to,
 and is now selling it on ebay.  I asked him if it was ok to promote it on
 the list and he said sure!

 So here's the promotion:  I REALLY liked that bike a lot and still probably
 shouldn't have sold it.  I built it up from frame and fork with a VERY nice
 mix of NOS and current parts.  I even installed the Honjos 
 myself,http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1627222087/using the 
 correct two bolt mounting technique.  He didn't want the upright
 Albatross bars and wide saddle, so I sold those separately to another list
 member.  You can read about most of the parts on the auction.

 Anyway, the bike was in great condition from when it left my garage, and
 has pretty much been hanging in his garage since then.  You can see the
 basic build I had herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/336996048/
 here http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/336996043/,  and then how
 he changed it around a bit to suit his tastes:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/  In fact that photo
 which is from July of '08 is the last time he rode the bike!

 Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/

 He'd VERY much prefer to sell local and avoid boxing it up so will take $50
 of the price if someone can pick it up.  The touch up paint he mentioned is
 the correct matching NYC nail brand, #241 Turquoise Seas (I bought that,
 too!).

 Also, I'd like to extend this opportunity to you:  If a RBW lister buys it,
 I will include, at no extra charge, my slightly worn set of of *epic 
 *Rivendell
 gloves:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4123017215/  That's
 right, they're internet celebrities themselves, and can be yours if you act
 fast!

 So contact him on ebay for specific questions on his build, or ask me
 whatever you might about the original build up I did.

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Re: [RBW] Re: V-Brake lever question

Reptilian levers!

Those look like pretty fancy brakes. What's the difference between the 3
and the 5?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

I thought it was a skink? which is in the lizard family but with
different physical attributes than true lizards.

and if you do choose v-brakes... the best design out there is the CC
Direct Curve.
I've alway felt though, that well adjusted cantilevers stop just as
well and look much better than any v-brake.

http://www.canecreek.com/component-other?product=direct-curve-5

~Mike~

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C'mon... L-I-Z-A-R-D-S!!! How can you put a price on lizards?
Priceless...

Speaking of lizards and priceless... if you haven't seen it on
youtube... the Lego version of Eddie Izzard's Death Star Canteen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw

As for the finish, etc., the CC's are very nice and the overall
quality is excellent.

On Mar 11, 10:33 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the lead!

Has anyone determined if there is a difference between CC and Tektros,
other
than finish and lizards?

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the CC Drop V levers. I originally mounted Avid V Brakes
(which
came off my Stumpjumper) on my Atlantis with Paselas, so I needed the
extra travel. I bought most of my parts from Harris Cyclery (and
possibly the levers... don't remember) since they are my local dealer
and THE nicest people. The levers are very nice, though not so nice
that I would spend $60 if they weren't specifically for V brakes. If
that makes sense. But I would have spent $40 and... I googled them
and
they're available at a couple of places, for around $40. At
aebike.com, they're $42 and if you can find something else and get
the
total to $75, shipping is free. Ironically, I later swapped out my
Avids for Paul cantis... so I don't need the extra travel, but the
CC's work fine with the cantis, too.

On Mar 8, 10:36 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
What are the down-sides to using a regular road lever
(Tektro/Cane
Creek)
with V- Brakes?

I'm starting to piece together a mtn. bike (frame TBD). I'm
starting
with
what I have lying around and going from there...

Long shot request. Anyone have a single front Dia Compe 287-V
lying
around
unused and lonely? I need the long-pull V kind, not the regular
287
model. I have a right I'm not using, but the left is on our
tandem.

FWIW, Cane Creek has a really nice looking updated version. Pricey
as
all
get out though.

http://harriscyclery.net/product/dia-compe-scr-5v-drop-levers-for-v-b...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Nezovich

Dettos were the first cleated shoes I knew of back then...I'd say as
early as mid to late 70's.

On Mar 12, 2010, at 5:15 PM, William wrote:

Wow, Thomas. Thanks very much for that link and the info. Do you
have a ballpark guess at the age of these shoes? I was thinking 1980
at the absolute latest.

On Mar 12, 2:03 pm, Thomas Nezovich t...@cox.net wrote:

OK, now I really feel old. I remember them. They are cyclocross
shoes. Cleats were nailed onto the sole back then. TA made some
cleats with two big spikes just
rear of the slot for the back edge of your shoe. See similar shoes
and cleats at this link:
http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyclo-cross.html
On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, William wrote:

in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1. I pretty much keep
my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe.
Yes,

I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
always want to run those.

in a 45 on ebay. I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
them for a bit under $100. The box has the model name 'Cross'
written

on it. I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
those in design and aesthetics. The full leather sole has a slotted
rubber tread on the toe. Too far forward to engage the hind cage
of a

toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

I used them and was certain I liked them. I found that odd, but
left. Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes. Do any of you
recognize

the model? Have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread rob markwardt

I've only tried the older SKS's and they developed a kind of funky
warped twist on the back.  I heard others say that metal fenders
rattle a lot but mine are rock solid.  Must be because somebody else
installed them!

On Mar 12, 5:58 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Rob. My next pair of fenders will probably be metal. I was just
 curious why you liked them so much. I was under the impression that
 they are more rattley, but perhaps leather washers solve that. Also, I
 have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
 warping problems with?

 Two years ago, my parked bike, locked to a pole, was backed into be a
 pickup truck. The rear rim broke (Mavic Open Pro), the rear composite
 fender was fine.

 I like my SKSs, but looking forward to some Honjos in my future.

 G

 On Mar 13, 2:25 am, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote:



  Like all posts on bike/component likes/dislikes I should have prefaced
  with  IMO, however, I'm a rain rider so I'm kind of picky.  I like
  metal because they are longer (yours do look like an improvement
  though), I think they are more secure (if installed correctly), less
  rattley (sp?...know what I mean?), they don't warp, and, most
  importantly..IMO...they look better!

  On Mar 12, 12:01 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Mar 12, 2:05 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote:

Those do look nice but, once you go metal you'll never go back.

   I am not saying you are wrong, but why? Aesthetics, durability,...?

   Gernot

If  you are in Seattle I've got a used pair of black SKS's that I'd
give away.

On Mar 11, 7:15 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

  they look better than the normal sks fenders

  do you think you could take a shot of them down the length of the
  bike? Like from the back?

  Thanks!
  -sv

 Like this?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4425669203/in/photostream/

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Re: [RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

T

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 I was under the impression that they are more rattley, but perhaps leather
 washers solve that.


I've used Honjos, VOs and Berthouds, and found that they rattle less because
they flex less, regardless of leather washers (which, I understand, you use
to allow a bit of flex between fender and frame and thus prevent cracking).
(The front VO 45 on the Motobecane rattles only because I used pop rivets to
hold on the L bracket on instead of tight, loctited screws.) SKSes seem to
be far less rattly than Zefals (ugh!) or PBs.


 Also, I have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
 warping problems with?


I've left my bike in the back of my car, resting on the SKS fender, and had
it warp, not permanently but for a few days until, released, it relaxed. I
daresay that the SKSes are actually stronger than some of the metals, since
they will -- as your experience shows -- bounce back, but in seven or eight
years of using metals, I've had no breakage or undue damage despite somewhat
careless treatment.



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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Angus

Size matters...

On Mar 12, 8:04 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Large.  62 is a touch too large... :-)



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  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
   Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H

  Your 62cm is too small so you'd get a 60cm?

  maybe my math is off but 62 is still bigger than 60, right?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

 Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/


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[RBW] Re: Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-12 Thread Angus

I can feel a new flickr group brewing Rivendell hub shiners

and no I'm NOT going to start it.

Angus

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 I hope they sell a million of them, but you won't find one on my
 bike.  Dirtyhubsage!

 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4428448306_ee0e5e312d.jpg

 On Mar 12, 7:31 am, montana_cyclist coloag...@gmail.com wrote:

  The ones I used in the 50s and 60s were narrow and allowed a lot of
  the shiny hub to show.

  On Mar 11, 4:15 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote:

   So, help me understand these things. Why on earth would anyone use
   them? I have no trouble understanding that they'd do a fine job of
   shining your hubs (as if that really mattered). But, then again, in
   use they hide the hub and thus you can't see the shine anyway. Do
   people with hubshiners remove them for special occasions so they can
   actually experience the blinding bling of their hubs or do they keep
   the hub shiner on at all times like those people who cover their
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

It could have been yours...


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 Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

It could have been yours...

A tad too big; otherwise, sure, I would have been interested. BUT I would
have lowered the bars a bit, just a little bit (like 4 inches).

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Here's the ebay link: *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/

Aaaoww, lookit those bars! Damn!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

Yeah, he had 'em up there a bit... :-)

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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

It could have been yours...

A tad too big; otherwise, sure, I would have been interested. BUT I would
have lowered the bars a bit, just a little bit (like 4 inches).

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Here's the ebay link: *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread Earl Grey

Since you tried all 3 main brands, can you tell me if you have any
preferences? Are the Honjos worth it? I love some VO products (the
seatpost), but others just seem cheaply made out of inferior materials
(i.e the bags), in which case I'd rather spend double or triple and
get something really nice and durable.

Gernot


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 T

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was under the impression that they are more rattley, but perhaps leather
  washers solve that.

 I've used Honjos, VOs and Berthouds, and found that they rattle less because
 they flex less, regardless of leather washers (which, I understand, you use
 to allow a bit of flex between fender and frame and thus prevent cracking).
 (The front VO 45 on the Motobecane rattles only because I used pop rivets to
 hold on the L bracket on instead of tight, loctited screws.) SKSes seem to
 be far less rattly than Zefals (ugh!) or PBs.

  Also, I have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
  warping problems with?

 I've left my bike in the back of my car, resting on the SKS fender, and had
 it warp, not permanently but for a few days until, released, it relaxed. I
 daresay that the SKSes are actually stronger than some of the metals, since
 they will -- as your experience shows -- bounce back, but in seven or eight
 years of using metals, I've had no breakage or undue damage despite somewhat
 careless treatment.



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[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset