Re: [RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
It was about 15 years ago, so I don't recall :-) I think it was a T217, does that sound right? Their heavy touring rim at the time (mid-90's). The Dyad had me worried as it doesn't have eyelets, but that has been a non-issue. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:15 PM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 19, 11:54 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Have one (Dyad) on our tandem and works fine. It was the replacement for the Mavic rim that failed. Do you notice any difference in braking? Was that a Mavic A719? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels
I was wondering if the front-end geometry of the Kogswells in the test affected the sweet spot range of tire sizes for each wheel size. It seems that a set of similarly sized Rivendells in the three wheel sizes could be found, and the same tires used. Philip On Apr 19, 7:03 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: My 1996 A/R is shod with Pasela 26 x 1.25 tires and I like the feel of these very much. They are the cushiest tires I have, seem plenty fast and handle well. I run 700 x 25 or 700 x 28 Paselas on my other bikes. I don't find any of the vagueness or wandering Jan reported, however my bike has more geometric trail than the test bike used in BQ. My estimate is about 50-55 mm trail. It might be that smaller wheel bikes need a bit more trail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] fatter tires for 26 wheels
Beth: I have 37mm (1 1/2) Paselas for a Rambouillet. I tend to ride at the same speed on them as I do on 28 mm Conti Ultra Gatorskins. They are more comfortable on coarse roads, and very reliable on wet roads. Bruce From: b hamon periwinkle...@yahoo.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 8:14:13 PM Subject: [RBW] fatter tires for 26 wheels . I'd like to hear from others who are running wider tires on 26 bikes they ride mostly on pavement. Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels
Beth, I have run Panaracer Pasela 26x1.25 on my All-Rounder and they felt like skinny tires. I ran Ritchey 26x1.4 for many years, felt smoother but measurably slower. I recently went to Panaracer Ribmo 26x2.0 for durability and flat resistance. Too few miles on the Ribmos to judge them yet. Angus On Apr 19, 8:14 pm, b hamon periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: After reading Jan's article about fatter tires in the latest BQ, I decided to try it on my All-Rounder. I'd gotten this frameset about three years ago and built it up with drop bars. (Although the height of the frame was a little short for my legs, the top tube was the right length for drops.) I've ridden it on numerous city and country rides and have done a couple of bike-camping overnights on it (longest rides on this have been several metric centuries). I have wrestled with the feel of this bike since building it up with 26 x 1.25 Paselas. Although the tires help up well, the feel of the 1.25 width seemed sort of harsh, and worse, squirrelly. In the absence of a pair of T-Serv tires just sitting around, I installed some 1.5 Paselas, and ran some errands while at work. I noticed the difference in handling pretty much right away. The bike rolled easily but cornered more gently and without as much of the squirrelly feeling I'd had with the skinnier tires. Just for fun, I also raised the handlebar about 1/2. Now the bike looks sort of odd because the handlebars are so close to the saddle; but I have a really short torso and had let go of the classic look of a road bike long ago anyway. What I have now is a more comfortable bike with a mellower ride quality. Do I feel slower? Well, I felt slower already but that's totally on me. The ride is smoother and more stable and that matters more to me than speed these days. I think this is a good experiment to do on bikes with 26 wheels. I'd like to hear from others who are running wider tires on 26 bikes they ride mostly on pavement. Beth http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels
Been riding my Surly LHT with Big Apple 26x2.0 and am content. Had a pair on the now departed Atlantis. Keep coming back to them for a combination of cush, traction and cornering ability. Plus, they look cool. Been running them at pretty high pressures, though. Because of my weight and other factors, something from about 45 to 50mm wide seems to work best for me on a 26 wheel bike. Very much the wide end of Jan's recommendation. Then again, I find the Sam Hillborne rides best on tires between 35 and 40mm wide. So what do I know? If I were a light rider would love to try the Schwalbe Kojak model in 26x2.0. Those might be the first tires in a long time I've lusted after. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 20, 5:35 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Beth, I have run Panaracer Pasela 26x1.25 on my All-Rounder and they felt like skinny tires. I ran Ritchey 26x1.4 for many years, felt smoother but measurably slower. I recently went to Panaracer Ribmo 26x2.0 for durability and flat resistance. Too few miles on the Ribmos to judge them yet. Angus On Apr 19, 8:14 pm, b hamon periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: After reading Jan's article about fatter tires in the latest BQ, I decided to try it on my All-Rounder. I'd gotten this frameset about three years ago and built it up with drop bars. (Although the height of the frame was a little short for my legs, the top tube was the right length for drops.) I've ridden it on numerous city and country rides and have done a couple of bike-camping overnights on it (longest rides on this have been several metric centuries). I have wrestled with the feel of this bike since building it up with 26 x 1.25 Paselas. Although the tires help up well, the feel of the 1.25 width seemed sort of harsh, and worse, squirrelly. In the absence of a pair of T-Serv tires just sitting around, I installed some 1.5 Paselas, and ran some errands while at work. I noticed the difference in handling pretty much right away. The bike rolled easily but cornered more gently and without as much of the squirrelly feeling I'd had with the skinnier tires. Just for fun, I also raised the handlebar about 1/2. Now the bike looks sort of odd because the handlebars are so close to the saddle; but I have a really short torso and had let go of the classic look of a road bike long ago anyway. What I have now is a more comfortable bike with a mellower ride quality. Do I feel slower? Well, I felt slower already but that's totally on me. The ride is smoother and more stable and that matters more to me than speed these days. I think this is a good experiment to do on bikes with 26 wheels. I'd like to hear from others who are running wider tires on 26 bikes they ride mostly on pavement. Beth http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
Regarding the question about Velocity Dyad rims: I built up a set of wheels for my touring bike (Trek 520) with a Schmidt front hub and an XT rear. Have been using them for more than a year with no problems. I like them a lot and plan to use them on my planned Hunquapillar. Steve Hemmelgarn From: happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 1:50:41 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues You might want to browse around Peter White's website, and see what he has to say about wheels: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Wheels.asp I imagine that if you are going to get a Sam Hillborne, Rivendell is going to recommend either the Velocity Dyad or Mavic 719 rims. The Velocity Dyad's do not have a machined side wall. Machined side walls are created by removing metal to smooth out the braking surface, which potentially weakens the rim(although manufacturers can start with a thicker piece of aluminum in anticipation that part of the surface will be shaved off). Grant has written about how he prefers non- machined side walls for strength. What I want to know is: do rims with non-machined side walls brake worth a damn? Or, is the brake pad skipping all over the brake surface and making a terrible racket? Has anyone used Velocity Dyad rims before? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
Jay: After numerous saddle tweaks, I found that all my saddles ended up at 67 cm in height from the BB center, and my PBH is 78, so I'd say the Riv formula works really well for me. I measure through the center-line of the seat post. Moving the saddle back or forward changes the measurement due to the angle I pitch the saddle at, so yes, I have to raise or lower the seat post if I slide the saddle around. Also, if I wear thick soled shoes (like KSwiss hikers), I have to raise the saddle for efficient pedaling. My standard is based on Addidas Sambas, or my Summer sandals (Teva and Nike) which have the same sole thickness. Rather than tune your saddle to numbers on the riv site, you might try small changes in height to see where the sweet spot is for you. That's giving you an efficient stroke (you feel all the leg power going into the pedals when climbing or accelerating) and you have no pain in front and above your knees or just behind your knees. Then see how your numbers compare. You can of course just try the riv suggestions and see how they go, and tweak from there. small increments though regardless. Bruce From: Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 6:46:17 AM Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question Hi all: The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. How many of you use this formula? Do youadjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
On Apr 20, 1:50 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: I imagine that if you are going to get a Sam Hillborne, Rivendell is going to recommend either the Velocity Dyad or Mavic 719 rims. The Velocity Dyad's do not have a machined side wall. Machined side walls are created by removing metal to smooth out the braking surface, which potentially weakens the rim(although manufacturers can start with a thicker piece of aluminum in anticipation that part of the surface will be shaved off). Grant has written about how he prefers non- machined side walls for strength. What I want to know is: do rims with non-machined side walls brake worth a damn? Or, is the brake pad skipping all over the brake surface and making a terrible racket? Has anyone used Velocity Dyad rims before? I had Rich build me a set of wheels on XT hubs and Dyad rims. 36h, both front and back; wanted it to have less weight and tension per spoke, but still a strong rim at that spoke count. Per Grant's aforementioned explanation, I was wanting unmachined; so Rich and I talked a good while about machined versus unmachined. But in checking, he couldn't get Dyads that were unmachined at the time, we had to go with machined instead. However, he said a machined Dyad is plenty strong, stronger than most other unmachined rims (unmachined Synergies, for example). I don't have a ton of miles on 'em yet, just built the bike in March. I did twenty-five miles on the first of the April, then the next day I did 35 miles on the Creeper trail (Abingdon to Damascus and back). Just some shorter rides last weekend with my daughter at Steele Creek (~5mil each), and just a couple of miles w/ the family this past weekend.Last night my son and I did 15mi on the Greenbelt. I'm runnin' 32 Paselas, no problems yet. Oh, and I was at 255 at Christmas, I'm down to 233 now, my initial goal is, 199... still a ways to go -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
Not a heavy rider, but would like to join the pro-Dyad chorus. The Rock n' road has 40 spoke Dyads matched with Maxi Car hubs. The wheels ride wonderful with full load or just me. On Apr 20, 7:36 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 20, 1:50 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: I imagine that if you are going to get a Sam Hillborne, Rivendell is going to recommend either the Velocity Dyad or Mavic 719 rims. The Velocity Dyad's do not have a machined side wall. Machined side walls are created by removing metal to smooth out the braking surface, which potentially weakens the rim(although manufacturers can start with a thicker piece of aluminum in anticipation that part of the surface will be shaved off). Grant has written about how he prefers non- machined side walls for strength. What I want to know is: do rims with non-machined side walls brake worth a damn? Or, is the brake pad skipping all over the brake surface and making a terrible racket? Has anyone used Velocity Dyad rims before? I had Rich build me a set of wheels on XT hubs and Dyad rims. 36h, both front and back; wanted it to have less weight and tension per spoke, but still a strong rim at that spoke count. Per Grant's aforementioned explanation, I was wanting unmachined; so Rich and I talked a good while about machined versus unmachined. But in checking, he couldn't get Dyads that were unmachined at the time, we had to go with machined instead. However, he said a machined Dyad is plenty strong, stronger than most other unmachined rims (unmachined Synergies, for example). I don't have a ton of miles on 'em yet, just built the bike in March. I did twenty-five miles on the first of the April, then the next day I did 35 miles on the Creeper trail (Abingdon to Damascus and back). Just some shorter rides last weekend with my daughter at Steele Creek (~5mil each), and just a couple of miles w/ the family this past weekend. Last night my son and I did 15mi on the Greenbelt. I'm runnin' 32 Paselas, no problems yet. Oh, and I was at 255 at Christmas, I'm down to 233 now, my initial goal is, 199... still a ways to go -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] fatter tires for 26 wheels
I like the Pasela 1.5 tires on my XO-1. I like the Pasela 1.75 on the tandem too, and would like to try them on the XO someday. They fit fine--I tried it! Them big, aero profile tandem rims looked sorta sporty on the B-stone...B-) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:55 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] fatter tires for 26 wheels On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:14 -0700, b hamon wrote: After reading Jan's article about fatter tires in the latest BQ, I decided to try it on my All-Rounder. I'd gotten this frameset about three years ago and built it up with drop bars. (Although the height of the frame was a little short for my legs, the top tube was the right length for drops.) I've ridden it on numerous city and country rides and have done a couple of bike-camping overnights on it (longest rides on this have been several metric centuries). I have wrestled with the feel of this bike since building it up with 26 x 1.25 Paselas. Although the tires help up well, the feel of the 1.25 width seemed sort of harsh, and worse, squirrelly. In the absence of a pair of T-Serv tires just sitting around, I installed some 1.5 Paselas, and ran some errands while at work. I noticed the difference in handling pretty much right away. The bike rolled easily but cornered more gently and without as much of the squirrelly feeling I'd had with the skinnier tires. Just for fun, I also raised the handlebar about 1/2. Now the bike looks sort of odd because the handlebars are so close to the saddle; but I have a really short torso and had let go of the classic look of a road bike long ago anyway. What I have now is a more comfortable bike with a mellower ride quality. 1.5 isn't extraordinarily wide for a 559 to begin with. What's more, going by the chart on p. 20 of BQ Spring 2010, the 'stable yet nimble' zone for 559 extends roughly from 38mm wide to about 48mm. I'd try a 559 x 1.75 tire to see how that feels - it's squarely in the gray zone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree wrote: Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. There's a lot of variation in this and a lot of factors (e.g., how far your saddle is pushed back), whether you pedal toe down, heel down or foot about level, etc. Your flexibility is also an issue. So is the relative strength of different muscle groups. Bike fit is a dynamic rather than static thing. Just measuring lengths, which most scientific fitting systems do, is not enough. Through years of trial and error adjustments, reading lots of things on the topic, etc., I have arrived at a saddle height that is PBH -9.5 cm. My advice is raise the saddle until your hips start rocking and then lower it a bit. Move it fore and aft until your weight distribution between the saddle and the handlebars is comfortable. Then do the measurements. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
The formula is spot on for me. PBH 81.5 SH 71. I check it by putting the heel of my foot on the pedal with that crank rotated to about 6 or 7 o'clock; if my leg is fairly straight and my hips don't rock up/down while trying to keep my heel on the pedal, then the saddle height is about right for me. This rough check works well for me. Finer adjustments are just by feel. On Apr 20, 8:32 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jay: After numerous saddle tweaks, I found that all my saddles ended up at 67 cm in height from the BB center, and my PBH is 78, so I'd say the Riv formula works really well for me. I measure through the center-line of the seat post. Moving the saddle back or forward changes the measurement due to the angle I pitch the saddle at, so yes, I have to raise or lower the seat post if I slide the saddle around. Also, if I wear thick soled shoes (like KSwiss hikers), I have to raise the saddle for efficient pedaling. My standard is based on Addidas Sambas, or my Summer sandals (Teva and Nike) which have the same sole thickness. Rather than tune your saddle to numbers on the riv site, you might try small changes in height to see where the sweet spot is for you. That's giving you an efficient stroke (you feel all the leg power going into the pedals when climbing or accelerating) and you have no pain in front and above your knees or just behind your knees. Then see how your numbers compare. You can of course just try the riv suggestions and see how they go, and tweak from there. small increments though regardless. Bruce From: Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 6:46:17 AM Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question Hi all: The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. How many of you use this formula? Do youadjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
I found that Rivendell's formula SH - 10 or 11 puts the seat a tad low for me. My experience has been PBH - 9.0 cm.I'm also positive I'm not under-measuring my pbh, as I've measured it myself with one other person, pulled up until it hurt, had it done at the LBS and it's always the same (or below my biggest measurement). I find that my knees are pretty sensitive to a seat that's too low, even by 1 or 2 cm, unless I'm riding standing out of the saddle all the time. Other potentially influencing data points for my SH: -MKS touring pedals -usually ride in a pair of sneakers -size 10 -do not ride on my toes -brooks b17/nitto crystal fellow If the fronts of your knees feel sore after a ride, a good first thing to check is your seat height, to make sure it's not too low. I've read that a good method for finding the sweet spot is to set the saddle too high (which in terms of rideability, is impossible to ignore even for short distances) and incrementally lower it until you can ride the bike normally. Matt On Apr 20, 8:32 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jay: After numerous saddle tweaks, I found that all my saddles ended up at 67 cm in height from the BB center, and my PBH is 78, so I'd say the Riv formula works really well for me. I measure through the center-line of the seat post. Moving the saddle back or forward changes the measurement due to the angle I pitch the saddle at, so yes, I have to raise or lower the seat post if I slide the saddle around. Also, if I wear thick soled shoes (like KSwiss hikers), I have to raise the saddle for efficient pedaling. My standard is based on Addidas Sambas, or my Summer sandals (Teva and Nike) which have the same sole thickness. Rather than tune your saddle to numbers on the riv site, you might try small changes in height to see where the sweet spot is for you. That's giving you an efficient stroke (you feel all the leg power going into the pedals when climbing or accelerating) and you have no pain in front and above your knees or just behind your knees. Then see how your numbers compare. You can of course just try the riv suggestions and see how they go, and tweak from there. small increments though regardless. Bruce From: Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 6:46:17 AM Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question Hi all: The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. How many of you use this formula? Do youadjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Final round of stuff for sale
Excellent, glad folks can use some of this stuff! Everything is spoken for except the 22T X 58BCD chainringhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10, free shipping. Also, the Trek 330 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4501357803/from previous listings is still looking for a good home. I'll start parting it out later this week if nobody wants it as is. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: 1) Swobo Jerseyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157622818019343/- was an XL, shrunk a bit, maybe to a L/M size. Thicker wool than current Swobo jersies. Little bit of a moth hole on the collar, little bit of shellac splatter on the front. Color is a little pinker than in photos. Really nice though! $25 shipped 2) Shimano Freewheelhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490557039/- $10, free shipping 3) Sachs Freewheelhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2369082421/- cogs great, body exploded on me. FREE (shipping only) 4) 22T X 58BCD chainringhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10, free shipping 5) Onza pedals http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4536650085/ - the best of the '90s. It's like hanging out with Kurt Cobain Courtney Love, in fact I always referred to the left one as Kurt (he was left handed) and the right as Courtney - FREE (shipping only) -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] fatter tires for 26 wheels
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:14 -0700, b hamon wrote: 1.5 isn't extraordinarily wide for a 559 to begin with. What's more, going by the chart on p. 20 of BQ Spring 2010, the 'stable yet nimble' zone for 559 extends roughly from 38mm wide to about 48mm. Well, well, stable but nimble is going to depend on the frame. On my Riv Roads, the 22mm Turbos and 23 mm Conti GPs are perfectly stable -- much more so than a 1.25 Pasela on a typical, early '90s unsuspended mountain bike. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
From the other side of the range... My PBH is 86 but a SH somewhere around 72.5-73cm works best for me. I always measure on the centerline even though I'm one of those long femured people who slides the saddle back, even with 71.5 degree SA's. I have had bike fitting done as well and their recommendation is always higher than my hamstrings can handle. ~Mike~ On Apr 20, 7:01 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree wrote: Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. There's a lot of variation in this and a lot of factors (e.g., how far your saddle is pushed back), whether you pedal toe down, heel down or foot about level, etc. Your flexibility is also an issue. So is the relative strength of different muscle groups. Bike fit is a dynamic rather than static thing. Just measuring lengths, which most scientific fitting systems do, is not enough. Through years of trial and error adjustments, reading lots of things on the topic, etc., I have arrived at a saddle height that is PBH -9.5 cm. My advice is raise the saddle until your hips start rocking and then lower it a bit. Move it fore and aft until your weight distribution between the saddle and the handlebars is comfortable. Then do the measurements. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
I believe from my experience that finding the right height, horizontal position and tilt for a saddle is a matter of personal experience and preference, with rules being simply a more convenient starting point than, say, starting with your saddle resting on the top tube. So the question becomes: how do you feel presently? Do you feel the need or desire to stretch your legs more? Raise the saddle a cm or so. Do you feel as if you can't get power over the top of the stroke? Try pushing it back a cm. Do you feel as if it is slowly slicing you in half? Lower it a cm. And so on. For me, it took 20 years of riding before I learned my preferences, and even now I continue to adjust slightly, by 5 mm increments, as season, shoes and astrological signs vary (just kidding about the signs; I always do my yearly height tuning in Mars/Ram.) Seriously, if you are inexperienced, start with the Riv instructions and adjust per the above. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Here's a Sugino crank to consider. http://www.velo-orange.com/suoldlotr.html I believe the pins and ramps are not a big deal if the front derailleur is friction, not STI or similar. The following is from Peter White's web site, and might also be useful. http://peterwhitecycles.com/chainrings.asp On Apr 20, 5:06 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, What's an alternative to the Sugino XD2 that has ramps and pins (all silver finish of course). How big a difference is there with no ramps and pins? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Having just made the transition from my 2007 Salsa Casseroll Triple featuring stock / full Shimano STI 105 shifting to my Atlantis with bar end shifters / Campy FD / Deore XT RD / Sugino XD2 triple I can say I actually like the friction shifting better but find no appreciable difference in ramps pin etc. On Apr 20, 7:33 am, Richard rsv...@netzero.net wrote: Here's a Sugino crank to consider. http://www.velo-orange.com/suoldlotr.html I believe the pins and ramps are not a big deal if the front derailleur is friction, not STI or similar. The following is from Peter White's web site, and might also be useful. http://peterwhitecycles.com/chainrings.asp On Apr 20, 5:06 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, What's an alternative to the Sugino XD2 that has ramps and pins (all silver finish of course). How big a difference is there with no ramps and pins? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels
I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in the BQ tests. My bike is a 1996 Allrounder. After several tries at smaller tires (Such as Ritchey Tom Slicks) and larger tires (such as Marathon XRs), I found my happy place with the 1.5inch Marathon Racer. It seems to have few compromises for road and light dirt riding. On Apr 19, 7:55 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:14 -0700, b hamon wrote: After reading Jan's article about fatter tires in the latest BQ, I decided to try it on my All-Rounder. I'd gotten this frameset about three years ago and built it up with drop bars. (Although the height of the frame was a little short for my legs, the top tube was the right length for drops.) I've ridden it on numerous city and country rides and have done a couple of bike-camping overnights on it (longest rides on this have been several metric centuries). I have wrestled with the feel of this bike since building it up with 26 x 1.25 Paselas. Although the tires help up well, the feel of the 1.25 width seemed sort of harsh, and worse, squirrelly. In the absence of a pair of T-Serv tires just sitting around, I installed some 1.5 Paselas, and ran some errands while at work. I noticed the difference in handling pretty much right away. The bike rolled easily but cornered more gently and without as much of the squirrelly feeling I'd had with the skinnier tires. Just for fun, I also raised the handlebar about 1/2. Now the bike looks sort of odd because the handlebars are so close to the saddle; but I have a really short torso and had let go of the classic look of a road bike long ago anyway. What I have now is a more comfortable bike with a mellower ride quality. 1.5 isn't extraordinarily wide for a 559 to begin with. What's more, going by the chart on p. 20 of BQ Spring 2010, the 'stable yet nimble' zone for 559 extends roughly from 38mm wide to about 48mm. I'd try a 559 x 1.75 tire to see how that feels - it's squarely in the gray zone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. I'll mostly echo what others have said: the Riv method is a great starting point, but like everything else in bike fit, the details can vary quite a bit. Tim's note to put the saddle up until your hips rock then back it off a bit is good too. Make small adjustments, ride, repeat. I can do this for days when i'm setting up a new bike, or especially if i'm trying a new saddle. All of those parts have different dimensions, so you just have to tweak. Once you figure out what you're happy with, noting the resulting measurements can make it easier to set up the next bike for yourself, but the numbers themselves aren't important otherwise. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
It worked perfectly for me; 89.2 PBH and settled on a saddle height of 79.3. On Apr 20, 5:46 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
Works well for me: PBH: 89cm, Saddle Height 79cm. If I go through all the LeMond formulas (which I believe came from a French cycling team he road for early on) I end up at 79cm. Angus On Apr 20, 6:46 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
PBH: 91cm, SH: 80cm. I have four bikes and the saddle is at the same height on all of them. I ride two of the bikes with platform pedals and two with SPDs. Like others have said, the RBW system is a great starting place and get definitely get you close to where you want to be. Good luck. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and has been spot on for my comfort ever since. There is no black magic to Rivendell's fit formula, it's about right in the center of what works for most people's bio-geometry. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Amos?
Any new rumors on the Amos? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: strong wheels
..ok so besides than the aqueducts sanitation, roads, medicine, education, public health, irrigation what have the Romans ever done for US! Life of Brian On Apr 19, 5:54 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Costly but worth the money. Gee, then the relatively inexpensive Shimanos, with better double lip seals that actually keep out water, and bearings that can actually be adjusted are a screaming deal. The Phil hubs are pretty, and the company's service is very good. Other than that...well they do have status. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] For Sale: Rivendell Romulus
Am I correct in thinking the largest tires you can fit with fenders on the Romulus are 28s, and without fenders 37s? I _think_ this is why I need a 650b bike: Using the tire pressure spreadsheet I need at least a 35mm tire to get the rear tire down into the normal range of pressure. I'm running 28s on my RB-T now, but the spreadsheet suggests 120 lbs, figuring me, bike and luggage at 246 lbs, and a 65/35 rear/front weight distribution 'cause I have Albatross bars fitted. The max inflation for the Top Contact tires is 95 lbs. I've been inflating the rear tire to ~110 lbs without problems so far, but it can't be good for the wheel. So the Romulus would work for me if I used a 35-37mm tire, but that rules out fenders. Maybe not a wise choice in Seattle. Rob in Seattle On Apr 19, 2010, at 6:02 PM, NotSoSpeedy wrote: FS - I am selling my Rivendell Romulus, 61 frame at: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/1700264714.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] For Sale: Rivendell Romulus
I've asked about the tire clearance limits of the Rom before and almost everyone says with fenders, no bigger than 32s. Although _maybe_ this changes with the new Paul Racer M…? It sounds like a Hillborne or Hilsen would fit your needs, Rob. :) -nathan On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Am I correct in thinking the largest tires you can fit with fenders on the Romulus are 28s, and without fenders 37s? I _think_ this is why I need a 650b bike: Using the tire pressure spreadsheet I need at least a 35mm tire to get the rear tire down into the normal range of pressure. I'm running 28s on my RB-T now, but the spreadsheet suggests 120 lbs, figuring me, bike and luggage at 246 lbs, and a 65/35 rear/front weight distribution 'cause I have Albatross bars fitted. The max inflation for the Top Contact tires is 95 lbs. I've been inflating the rear tire to ~110 lbs without problems so far, but it can't be good for the wheel. So the Romulus would work for me if I used a 35-37mm tire, but that rules out fenders. Maybe not a wise choice in Seattle. Rob in Seattle On Apr 19, 2010, at 6:02 PM, NotSoSpeedy wrote: FS - I am selling my Rivendell Romulus, 61 frame at: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/1700264714.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] cranks: ramps and pins v. none
on 4/20/10 3:06 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: What's an alternative to the Sugino XD2 that has ramps and pins (all silver finish of course). Just a point that the ramps/pins are a function of the chainrings, not the crank. How big a difference is there with no ramps and pins? With friction/manual shifting, little to none. I'm running a 38/48 on the Hilsen right now with unpinned (pinless?) rings on the Sugino , and don't notice a spec o' difference versus the same sized ones which were on my Ritchey crankset. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines The bike between her legs was like some hyper-evolved alien tail she'd somehow extruded, as though over patient centuries; a sweet and intricate bone-machine, grown Lexan-armored tires, near-frictionless bearings, and gas filled shocks. William Gibson - Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] For Sale: Rivendell Romulus
Hi Rob, I have no problem fitting SKS fenders with 700 x 32 Panaracer Pasela tires on both my 59 Romulus bikes. I had the same question as you and I called Riv World HQ and spoke with Keven who said, Do it. I did. Write to me if you want to see pictures. -jb On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Am I correct in thinking the largest tires you can fit with fenders on the Romulus are 28s, and without fenders 37s? I _think_ this is why I need a 650b bike: Using the tire pressure spreadsheet I need at least a 35mm tire to get the rear tire down into the normal range of pressure. I'm running 28s on my RB-T now, but the spreadsheet suggests 120 lbs, figuring me, bike and luggage at 246 lbs, and a 65/35 rear/front weight distribution 'cause I have Albatross bars fitted. The max inflation for the Top Contact tires is 95 lbs. I've been inflating the rear tire to ~110 lbs without problems so far, but it can't be good for the wheel. So the Romulus would work for me if I used a 35-37mm tire, but that rules out fenders. Maybe not a wise choice in Seattle. Rob in Seattle On Apr 19, 2010, at 6:02 PM, NotSoSpeedy wrote: FS - I am selling my Rivendell Romulus, 61 frame at: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/1700264714.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Final round of stuff for sale
I'm curious about the price for the Trek? Sorry if I overlooked it in this post somewhere... Thanks! Trent On Apr 20, 9:13 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent, glad folks can use some of this stuff! Everything is spoken for except the 22T X 58BCD chainringhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10, free shipping. Also, the Trek 330 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4501357803/from previous listings is still looking for a good home. I'll start parting it out later this week if nobody wants it as is. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: 1) Swobo Jerseyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157622818019343/- was an XL, shrunk a bit, maybe to a L/M size. Thicker wool than current Swobo jersies. Little bit of a moth hole on the collar, little bit of shellac splatter on the front. Color is a little pinker than in photos. Really nice though! $25 shipped 2) Shimano Freewheelhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490557039/- $10, free shipping 3) Sachs Freewheelhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2369082421/- cogs great, body exploded on me. FREE (shipping only) 4) 22T X 58BCD chainringhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10, free shipping 5) Onza pedals http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4536650085/ - the best of the '90s. It's like hanging out with Kurt Cobain Courtney Love, in fact I always referred to the left one as Kurt (he was left handed) and the right as Courtney - FREE (shipping only) -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels
Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in the BQ tests. I am not an expert on bike gemometry. That said, I keep wondering if there is a correlation between wheel size and frame size that changes the ride quality as well? I've mostly heard responses here from guys who ride much bigger frames than I do. Would a larger frame (and longer chainstay lengths, and bigger everything else) change the ride quality that much? Would it change the tire choice substantially? It sounds like it's up to the individual rider, but I remain curious. Obviously, a 1.5 Pasela seems to been a good solution for me, but my frame is a 53cm c-t (55cm c-c top tube). How would this be for someone who rides a 60cm frame? Would it make a difference at all? --Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Amos?
It's going to be pink. On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote: Any new rumors on the Amos? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
PBH minus 10, measured to the top of the saddle works great for me. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: From: Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:46 AM Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Henry Coe Ride Report
I've received feedback that the photos on Flickr came up pretty small. Here's a second go: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39219...@n06/?saved=1 Also, per request, our route in Henry Coe looked something like this: From Hwy 138-- County line fire Road --the peak of Bear Mountain--Poverty Flat--Park Headquarters Just don't mention your route to the ranger :) Glad to spark some excitement. Cheers, Adam On Apr 19, 9:26 pm, Adam oceanm...@gmail.com wrote: Henry Coe Ride Report I logged on a few weeks ago and asked the listserv about experiences of Henry W. Coe Park. Got some great reports that fueled my excitement. It’s the biggest state run park in Northern California, 87,000 acres of open space. Certain parts are closed to cyclists though it is recognized as some of the best mountain biking in the greater bay area. Almost everyone I spoke to warned of the almost vertical climbs and descents. Even riders who I thought were in the same club suggested full suspension. My buddy Todd and I had planned an early morning departure last Monday but delayed until about 6pm to avoid riding in the rain. We departed from Berkeley and arrived in Briones about an hour after dark. We rode a fire road out from the park entrance about a mile and pushed up an extremely steep and muddy hill. This short ascent proved to be one of the most challenging moments of the trip. Todd spent the night a bit cold, and we were both soaked from the tall grasses we’d be tromping through. In the morning we were considering heading back home so he could pick up his thicker sleeping bag when alas I remembered stories of the VBL. Todd and I rode out to Walnut Creek to the headquarters. We both picked up some “Vapor Barrier Liners” and we agreed our dollars could not have been better spent. We went from wearing our down jackets inside our bags and shivering through the night to ditching the jackets and feeling more than cozy. Pretty incredible results for such a packable and inexpensive item. Grant and Mark gave us directions from Walnut Creek out to Livermore where Todd grew up. They seemed a bit doubtful about our ambitious journey but gave us some uplifting encouragement. We made it out for sandwiches and tea with Todd’s parents and then a good 10 miles into Mines Rd. before sunset. We found a lovely campsite on an unknowingly generous landowners’ space. It felt incredibly remote for being just 10 miles out of Livermore. The next day we continued along Mines Rd. until a welcomed stop at the Junction Café. It’s located at the junction of Mines Rd. and Hwy 138 and is of a different world. Giant Boar heads over the bar with mangled tusks, not a single guy without a camouflage baseball cap. Wonderful people, we felt warmly welcomed, humored perhaps. Had too much to eat and drink for our adventurous spirits and enjoyed some good games of horseshoe outside the restaurant. We departed from Mines Rd. soon after unto some private land for a mile or so and then into the beauty of Henry Coe. We spent 1 night and 2 full days in the park. Riding and pushing, pushing and riding. I’d say our time was about 50/50 between the 2. We crossed a dozen or so rivers and felt lost in the isolated beauty. From the park we rode down through Gilroy and into Downtown San Jose where we caught bus 181 to Fremont Bart and then homeward bound. It was an incredible 4 days. Refreshed and enlivened, Adam Pictures and some short videos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/39219...@n06/sets/72157623893960464/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Amos?
Enough gossip like that and you might force HQ to put out some clarification. I did almost fall over though. On Apr 20, 2:43 pm, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: It's going to be pink. On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote: Any new rumors on the Amos? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bullmoose on a Hillborne
I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the Rivendell site. I have decided that I want to make my next bike similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars. http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarterbest.jpg I kinda like the colors and 650B size of the Hilborne but of course the frame is not as heavy duty as the Hunqapillar. I am not sure how wide it can go tire-wise without fenders either. So would it make sense to gear up a Hillborne in this fashion or should I just suck it up and go with the Hunqapillar when it comes out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels
On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Beth H wrote: Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in the BQ tests. I am not an expert on bike gemometry. That said, I keep wondering if there is a correlation between wheel size and frame size that changes the ride quality as well? I've mostly heard responses here from guys who ride much bigger frames than I do. Would a larger frame (and longer chainstay lengths, and bigger everything else) change the ride quality that much? Would it change the tire choice substantially? It sounds like it's up to the individual rider, but I remain curious. Obviously, a 1.5 Pasela seems to been a good solution for me, but my frame is a 53cm c-t (55cm c-c top tube). How would this be for someone who rides a 60cm frame? Would it make a difference at all? Mine (1996) is a 59.5 with a 59 cm top tube. So the top tube is about 4 cm longer than yours. I don't know if the chainstays are longer, but even if they are the same the wheelbase would be maybe 4 cm longer, depending on the front geometry. If the chainstays are longer, then my wheelbase might be longer still. All other things being equal, a bike with a longer wheelbase will be more stable. I suspect a small/short top tube, low-trail bike with really short chain stays and skinny hard tires would be like riding one of those bikes with two wheels that steer. The best handling bike (for racing, back when I raced) I ever rode is my Ritchey with 700 x 23 Michelin Super Course slicks. It had the perfect balance of stable and nimble for racing. Now that I don't race, I still ride it but not as much. I prefer slightly fatter tires and a bit more stability at the expense of some nimbleness; the Ritchey will fit 25s and I might be able to squeeze in 28s, but it doesn't handle as nice with the bigger tires. I ride the Riv A/R most of the time and my homebrew 3 speed the almost all the rest of the time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, CycloFiend wrote: Hmmm... such spoke/failures (particularly without any pinch flatting) would point me back to looking at the dropout alignment or rear triangle alignment on the frame. You can get a sense of frame alignment with the string test described on Sheldon's site: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html You are running the right hubs for your frame spacing, right? That will give you the major alignment of the triangles bit not the alignment of the faces of the dropouts, which must be parallel to each other. You need a dropout gauge to check this. Good bike shops will always have them (although shops with them are not necessarily good) and all frame builders will have them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
Hmmm - good question. I never considered that there could be an alignment issue. Everything else seems to indicate that it's well aligned - its an AHH with extremely quiet drivetrain, visually straight from the back, and the ride is smooth, stable and heavenly. The tires align perfectly with the rear fender. My experience has been that if I put on a set of JBs or Paselas (32C), and I let the tires get to about 1000 or 1100 without rotating, the rear tire will be toast (i.e. get a flat every other day from puncture). Once it gets to this point I have found it is too late to rotate them - the same tire will continue to flat once it gets to the front. I have had the same experience with 2 sets of JB greens and 1 set of JB blues. If I switch after 600 miles, I could probably get 1200 miles out of them. I found the Paselas to be almost exactly the same (however much cheaper). I also have had the beads separate from both types of tire around that mileage point. My riding conditions, however, may be very different from others. I commute to work year round in Tucson, AZ on fairly rough roads (lots of chip seal, but not many huge potholes). From May through August, all of my afternoon rides are at around 100 deg. I think I read on the Schwalbe website that high temperatures will accelerate tire wear. I also strap my work bag with clothes and stuff onto the rear rack. With bike lock and lunch, etc. it probably averages 25 lbs. I myself weigh about 200 lbs. For reference, before the AHH I commuted on a racing bike with a messenger bag. I consistently got 2000 out of the 25C tires I used. It's probably a combination of everything and I certainly enjoyed riding on both JBs and Paselas. It's just that I now may have found my nirvana tire. The Schwalbes are bigger (running 622-42 HS 366 with fenders), very comfy and seem very durable. Of course, it's not a fair test yet since the Schwalbes only have 1000 miles on them. On Apr 20, 2:44 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I have to ask. How does one burn through the JBs and why would only get 1000 miles on the Paselas? I've ridden a pair of JBs for voer 1500 miles and they still don't show a lot of wear. Others on the list claim that Pasela's wear well. If you're really burning through the tires, especially on the rear, I'd suggest having a shop check the alignment of your rear triangle. Something doesn't sound right. Joe Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:33:58 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance. From: dylanmcner...@yahoo.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have also switched over to the Schwalbe Marathons - and I am shocked at how fast they roll and how durable they are. I got sick of burning through the JBs and tried similar sized Paselas, but they also only lasted for about 1000 mi. The marathons have about 1000 on them now with hardly any noticeable tread wear (and no flats). I ride about 30 mi a day to and from work and the peace of mind is great. I really thought I was making a compromise, trading weight and rolling resistance for durability, but that has not been the case. One caveat - I don't have a lot of hills on my route. They may be slower going uphill, but based on the way they feel every day, I wouldn't hesitate to ride up the mountains around here. On Apr 19, 11:30 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/19/10 9:12 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 18, 10:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I do ride my JB greens off-road, though they are less fun than my 42mm IRC Mythos XC Slicks. Have gotten one pinch flat on a high speed descend on a gravel road with sharp fist-sized rocks, running around 35-40 psi with a bike+rider weight of 210 lbs. Gernot I think there are plenty of riders who can get by riding JB greens off road. Mark at Rivendell does and I think Cyclofiend has too. I weigh 190 and am magnetically drawn to every rut, rock, root and bad line when pedaling off road so it's just not a good idea for me. Then again, I've ridden 28s off road at times. It's really nice to have a bike the Hilsen or SH that provides lots of options. JB Greens are my choice. But, I have gotten pretty quick at on-the-trail tube replacements over the years. ;^) Most of the local trails have some pretty sharp, rocky bits, which means adding a bit more pressure. I think you'll find a lot of pinch flats at that psi, if those are your conditions. On certain trails, I increase pressure significantly. It's always a balance of comfort, control, pressure and technique. That's the challenge I enjoy, and it doesn't always make for easy-breezy descending. If you want lower pressures, increase the tire volume. JB's are nice and fat and round, which give significant control, but things can get dicey when when things are jagged. Of course, if you increase size
[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne
Beautiful, Darin. I really like seeing a beautiful classic put together with good, affordable parts. Happy trails, michael On Apr 20, 3:08 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: My Sam Hillborne is complete with all accessories http://gallery.me.com/dbgoff#18 Frameset: Rivendell Sam Hillborne 56cm Brake Levers: Cane Creek - Gum Shifters: Shimano Bar End 9 Crank: Sugino XD Special Bottom Bracket: Tange Brakes: Shimano 550 Front Derailleur: Tiagra 28.6 Rear Derailleur: Deore XT Cassette: 12-32 Shimano HG50 Stem: Nitto Tech Delux Handlebars: Nitto Noodle 44 Tape: Cork Headset: Tange Wheels: Deore XT Mavic A719 Saddle: Brooks B17 Special Honey Seatpost: Nitto Crystal Tires: Riv Jack Brown Blue Fender: Planet Bike Cascadia Rear Rack: Nitto Big Front Rack: Nitto Mini Pedals: Shimano 540 Thanks to Mark Kennedy at Saturday Cycles for putting this together. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Final round of stuff for sale
It's an '88, made with Reynolds 531 tubes. Brooks saddle, 46cm Nitto Noodles Tech Dlx stem. Handbuild Open Sport (MA3) wheel with flip-flop hub and two freewheels. Pump, lock, Jandd bags included. $300 plus shipping. I'm getting ready to part it out ($100 frame, $100 wheelset, probably $150 or so in parts). More pics in this set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623677638509/ Thanks for the interest. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Trent in TX trent.thi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious about the price for the Trek? Sorry if I overlooked it in this post somewhere... Thanks! Trent On Apr 20, 9:13 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent, glad folks can use some of this stuff! Everything is spoken for except the 22T X 58BCD chainringhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10, free shipping. Also, the Trek 330 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4501357803/from previous listings is still looking for a good home. I'll start parting it out later this week if nobody wants it as is. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Swobo Jersey http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157622818019343/- was an XL, shrunk a bit, maybe to a L/M size. Thicker wool than current Swobo jersies. Little bit of a moth hole on the collar, little bit of shellac splatter on the front. Color is a little pinker than in photos. Really nice though! $25 shipped 2) Shimano Freewheel http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490557039/- $10, free shipping 3) Sachs Freewheel http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2369082421/- cogs great, body exploded on me. FREE (shipping only) 4) 22T X 58BCD chainring http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10, free shipping 5) Onza pedals http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4536650085/ - the best of the '90s. It's like hanging out with Kurt Cobain Courtney Love, in fact I always referred to the left one as Kurt (he was left handed) and the right as Courtney - FREE (shipping only) -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] unclaimed custom?
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne
I don't think I will be thrashing it really at all but I do want a bike set up for slightly rougher trails. I wasn't sure if it would be overkill to set up a country bike frame in this manner. I have a Bleriot and it doesn't seem like it would be a great frame to set up in this manner. I think the Hillborne is more heavy duty than the Bleriot though. On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: The spec sheet says 44 mm max tire. How hard are you planning on thrashing the bike? Do you really need the extra beef of the Hunq? If not, and the Sam would fit, then go for it! On Apr 20, 3:48 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the Rivendell site. I have decided that I want to make my next bike similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars. http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarte... I kinda like the colors and 650B size of the Hilborne but of course the frame is not as heavy duty as the Hunqapillar. I am not sure how wide it can go tire-wise without fenders either. So would it make sense to gear up a Hillborne in this fashion or should I just suck it up and go with the Hunqapillar when it comes out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I asked Grant to re-think the idea of stripping re-painting and selling at a loss. Unless it's something really weird, I can't imagine there isn't someone on this list who would be interested, or know someone who may be interested. Looking forward to the pix. I'll probably never find the minor cosmetic detail. dougP On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
That was exactly my thought since he used the term Bizarro. If the Bizarro bike as GP called it is so unlike a Riv that they need to strip decals and paint it before they take a loss on it, then why would they allow it to be shown at the San Diego Show? Unless it just slipped their mind to pull it. They are human. I'm wondering what the single unresolvable cosmetic detail that killed the deal could have been. It's like episodes of a reality show. On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
My Atlantis came with ramps pins on the Sugino. They are good rings lasted me over 20k miles but I replaced with generic flat rings because they were half the price. The 24 to 36 shift takes a bit more thought with the flat rings but no big deal. With friction it's pretty EZ to over-shift slightly to assure chain pick up. No real difference from middle to big. The ramps pins don't hurt anything if you're looking at a set-up that already has them. dougP On Apr 20, 12:14 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/20/10 3:06 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: What's an alternative to the Sugino XD2 that has ramps and pins (all silver finish of course). Just a point that the ramps/pins are a function of the chainrings, not the crank. How big a difference is there with no ramps and pins? With friction/manual shifting, little to none. I'm running a 38/48 on the Hilsen right now with unpinned (pinless?) rings on the Sugino , and don't notice a spec o' difference versus the same sized ones which were on my Ritchey crankset. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines The bike between her legs was like some hyper-evolved alien tail she'd somehow extruded, as though over patient centuries; a sweet and intricate bone-machine, grown Lexan-armored tires, near-frictionless bearings, and gas filled shocks. William Gibson - Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne
Working on better pictures--unfortunately Mr. Nikon is in the shop, again, so when he gets back we'll try for some better shots. On Apr 20, 5:38 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Whoa! We are going to need to see: 1) More pictures! 2) Sharp pictures! of that beauty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Not 100% sure about this, but didn't ramps/pins come about because of indexed shifting? I've got a few bikes with old TA rings (thin), and they shift great in friction mode. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne
Darin, Cool - you're gonna enjoy that. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Whatever it it, it certainly raises my curiosity level. I think cosmetic details are important because I find bicycles beautiful, functional art. But, I don't think that anything outside of a horrible color would be cosmetic enough to prevent me from interest in a bicycle. Oh, and one of my very favorite forms of riding is fixed gear off road riding. It's the ultimate under-bike experience. So, if this mystery bike is a fixed gear off roader, I'm really interested. On Apr 20, 7:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
Hi all: Thanks for the responses and the clarifications. I will try to raise my saddle gradually and just test how I feel. Again, I appreciate the thoughtful responses. Jay On Apr 20, 6:14 pm, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote: PBH minus 10, measured to the top of the saddle works great for me. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: From: Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:46 AM Hi all: One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle. Here are the questions. How many of you use this formula? Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post?) I ask because my saddle height seems to be shorter than this (with MKS pedals and Addidas Sambas)..more like PBH - 15. I would like to raise it to Riv recommendations, but I was wondering what your experiences have been. Regards, Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
PBH=94 cm, SH=83.5 cm at point of sit bones on B17 slammed all the way back on seat post on my Sam Hill. I like to use the method of putting the heels of your bare feet on the pedals and setting seat height when your leg is fully extended at 6:00 position. For me, this works out to PBH- 10-11 cm and it automatically takes into account any changes is seat fore/aft and seat angle. -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
I'll add to the Dyad yap. I'm running a couple of machined 32H 700c Dyads laced with 2.0 straight gauge to White Industry hubs built up by Mark @ Hank + Frank's in Oakland. Bomb-proof. I'm now comin' in @ 250 lbs. and hop curbs and railroad tracks (but have yet to jump the draw-bridge) on my urban commute. I do run 50mm rubber, so this is a major factor, but these wheels are as true as the day I got them. -P. On Apr 20, 10:49 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:50 AM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: What I want to know is: do rims with non-machined side walls brake worth a damn? Or, is the brake pad skipping all over the brake surface and making a terrible racket? Has anyone used Velocity Dyad rims before? Another data point: i have a set of XT/Dyad wheels i built myself for my cyclocross/commuter bike 4 years ago, and they've been excellent rims through racing seasons and thousands of miles of year-round riding. Nothing more than minor truing touch-up needed on them, and braking has been perfectly fine. I highly recommend it as a good rim for riding anything from about a 32mm tire on up. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays. I guess that is about one standard deviation away from a typical Rivendell. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever it it, it certainly raises my curiosity level. I think cosmetic details are important because I find bicycles beautiful, functional art. But, I don't think that anything outside of a horrible color would be cosmetic enough to prevent me from interest in a bicycle. Oh, and one of my very favorite forms of riding is fixed gear off road riding. It's the ultimate under-bike experience. So, if this mystery bike is a fixed gear off roader, I'm really interested. On Apr 20, 7:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis SKS Fender Install
I'm about to mount SKS P50's over the 700x45 Marathon Plus' on my Atlantis. The included 5mm bolts with the fenders don't quite fill the fork mounting hole but a 6mm bolt seems fine. I recently installed some SKS hardware on my XO-1 with Sheldon Fender Nuts / dremel tool so I'm familiar with the need for some sort of spacer to move the front fender mount out from under the fork crown race. Any suggestions on hardware or technique? As an aside I'm a little sensitive about how easily the paint cracks on this bike and don't mind spending a little time and expense to get it right. I read a comment about this in another post and then noticed that the lock n roll seat post lock I installed this weekend has cracked off all of the paint on the outside of the post where it clamps. If I had it to do over again I'd probably find something to fit in the pinch bolt hole to absorb some of the force. This hasn't happened on my XO-1, the paint is much more robust. Finally, what's the best way to mount the rear fender to the threaded seat stay bridge? My inclination is to flatten the mounting tab on the fender and drill a hole and mount the 5mm bolt through a nylon or aluminum spacer, I have both. Thanks for the thought and consideration, it's reassuring to be able to tap into the wealth of knowledge. Oh! I bit on the Viyella shirt Grant started hawking it is very well made and has the great non-smelly wool quality though it won't get much use in the summer time, the searsucker will though! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
And no fender/rack eyelets! Ye gods and little fishes! -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:24:58 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom? I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays. I guess that is about one standard deviation away from a typical Rivendell. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever it it, it certainly raises my curiosity level. I think cosmetic details are important because I find bicycles beautiful, functional art. But, I don't think that anything outside of a horrible color would be cosmetic enough to prevent me from interest in a bicycle. Oh, and one of my very favorite forms of riding is fixed gear off road riding. It's the ultimate under-bike experience. So, if this mystery bike is a fixed gear off roader, I'm really interested. On Apr 20, 7:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays. I guess that is about one standard deviation away from a typical Rivendell. Wow, that's a pretty cool Rivendell frame. I'd say that a fixed trail bike is the only explanation for it, and now i'm really curious about what the flaw could have been. It seems like it would have to be a big deal for the customer to bail on such a carefully negotiated custom like that, but it's hard to see anything to complain about from here. Ken, this one is right up your alley (if indeed it's the frame in question). -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Wow, that's one VERY cool bike. I bet it would be a real HOOT to ride. I've been riding a custom made Co Motion steel frame, rigid fork, front cantilever only bike. It's really an old regular off- roader, but I converted to fixed gear using a White Industries ENO hub. I also have a custom Phil Wood Independent Fabrication TI singlespeed that I've been very tempted to convert over to fixed. (I also have a Trek OCLV fixed gear off-roader. Say what you will about carbon, the thing is stupid light and I care very little if it get trashed. I keep hoping it will fail so I have reason to destroy it.) Man-o-man, I bet the mystery Rivendell would be really a fun time. I'd be really curious to get the Rivendell interpretation of ride characteristics. I have no clue on size, but judging from the photos it looks like it might be too small. Good thing, I think if I asked if I could get another bike right now, my wife would ring my neck! On Apr 20, 8:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays. I guess that is about one standard deviation away from a typical Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
I don't think so, since the front is never indexed. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: Not 100% sure about this, but didn't ramps/pins come about because of indexed shifting? I've got a few bikes with old TA rings (thin), and they shift great in friction mode. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
MTBs index the front. Strangely, I tried a unpinned chainring, and couldn't get it to shift. It was the middle ring of a triple. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: I don't think so, since the front is never indexed. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: Not 100% sure about this, but didn't ramps/pins come about because of indexed shifting? I've got a few bikes with old TA rings (thin), and they shift great in friction mode. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
I think some of the early Shimano brifters had indexed front shifting too. Didn't they? RX100... Shaun Meehan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: MTBs index the front. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
If the frame from the San Diego show is the frame in question, I certainly don't see why they'd want to strip the paint. Great looking bike! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Is that a Pacenti fork crown? It seems a fork crown like that would be quite at home on a Hunqapillar or Bombadil! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne
I would bet that the Hilborne is at least as rugged as the MB-1 and MB-0, which saw lots of rougher trails. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I don't think I will be thrashing it really at all but I do want a bike set up for slightly rougher trails. I wasn't sure if it would be overkill to set up a country bike frame in this manner. I have a Bleriot and it doesn't seem like it would be a great frame to set up in this manner. I think the Hillborne is more heavy duty than the Bleriot though. On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: The spec sheet says 44 mm max tire. How hard are you planning on thrashing the bike? Do you really need the extra beef of the Hunq? If not, and the Sam would fit, then go for it! On Apr 20, 3:48 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the Rivendell site. I have decided that I want to make my next bike similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars. http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarte... I kinda like the colors and 650B size of the Hilborne but of course the frame is not as heavy duty as the Hunqapillar. I am not sure how wide it can go tire-wise without fenders either. So would it make sense to gear up a Hillborne in this fashion or should I just suck it up and go with the Hunqapillar when it comes out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
well maybe they think it should have some canti brake studs in the back? It does seem a little odd of a build... of course the JB paint job is the cats pajamas! ~Mike~ On Apr 20, 8:10 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a Pacenti fork crown? It seems a fork crown like that would be quite at home on a Hunqapillar or Bombadil! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne
I have a Hillborne and am running some 700 x 40 Schwalbe Smart Sam knobbies.. it could easily take a 45-47mm knobbie w/o fenders. And I've ridden it on some pretty techy singletrack in this mode and as a result I hardly ever take out my 29er an more. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4220857510/sizes/l/in/set-72157623110722902/ ~Mike~ On Apr 20, 8:14 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I would bet that the Hilborne is at least as rugged as the MB-1 and MB-0, which saw lots of rougher trails. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I don't think I will be thrashing it really at all but I do want a bike set up for slightly rougher trails. I wasn't sure if it would be overkill to set up a country bike frame in this manner. I have a Bleriot and it doesn't seem like it would be a great frame to set up in this manner. I think the Hillborne is more heavy duty than the Bleriot though. On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: The spec sheet says 44 mm max tire. How hard are you planning on thrashing the bike? Do you really need the extra beef of the Hunq? If not, and the Sam would fit, then go for it! On Apr 20, 3:48 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the Rivendell site. I have decided that I want to make my next bike similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars. http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarte... I kinda like the colors and 650B size of the Hilborne but of course the frame is not as heavy duty as the Hunqapillar. I am not sure how wide it can go tire-wise without fenders either. So would it make sense to gear up a Hillborne in this fashion or should I just suck it up and go with the Hunqapillar when it comes out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
I had a set of Pasela 35s for about a year and they were okay. When I replaced the rear I got a lemon as the sidewall gave way pretty quickly. I've been using Panaracer T-serves in 35 and like them a lot. Same tread as a Pasela but with tougher sidewalls. I've used them for road rides, gravel road rides, and centuries. Give them a try. The Pasela 37s seem to be a little harder to find now that Riv doesn't have them. I wish they'd make a 700x40 T-Serve. --mike On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
I have the 35mm Pasela Tourguards, and they indeed measure 36mm. Sidewalls go before the tread, but cheap enough to not be too upset by that. I ride them EVERYWHERE so they get beat up pretty good. They are very supple, which I love about them. Don't forget to add the Marathon Supremes to your list. They're pricey but last a bit and are supple (or so I've heard from others). On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I had a set of Pasela 35s for about a year and they were okay. When I replaced the rear I got a lemon as the sidewall gave way pretty quickly. I've been using Panaracer T-serves in 35 and like them a lot. Same tread as a Pasela but with tougher sidewalls. I've used them for road rides, gravel road rides, and centuries. Give them a try. The Pasela 37s seem to be a little harder to find now that Riv doesn't have them. I wish they'd make a 700x40 T-Serve. --mike On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
Gernot: Your selection ought to consider what kinds of abuse your tires see off-road. I've used Paselas, T-Servs, and now Marathon Supremes. The Paselas ride nice but the sidewalls take a beating in gravel, rocks, etc. I went with T-Servs to address that problem and they are much more rugged. I'm currently using Marathon Supremes because I hate flats. The Paselas may have ridden a bit better than either of the other 2 but not hugely different. I have no direct experience with the Marathon Racer but would expect it to be more supple than the Supreme due to lighter construction. All good tires. You just need to think about how abusive your situation may be. dougP On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
ditto, I threw the 35mm Pasela TG's on my Hillborne recently as the knobbie Smart Sams are slow on pavement. They ride very nicely and handle dirt pretty well. They wash out in sandy stuff compared to the Smart Sams though. I'm in the same boat as you and about ready to take the plunge on the 38 Racers. They seem to have a little more tread than the Supremes. After looking at everything else the Racers seem to have it all... light wt, some tread and a supple casing ... so they say... The Paselas are planned for my Bridgestone T700 camper/errand project so I need some final rubber for the SH. On Apr 20, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 35mm Pasela Tourguards, and they indeed measure 36mm. Sidewalls go before the tread, but cheap enough to not be too upset by that. I ride them EVERYWHERE so they get beat up pretty good. They are very supple, which I love about them. Don't forget to add the Marathon Supremes to your list. They're pricey but last a bit and are supple (or so I've heard from others). On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I had a set of Pasela 35s for about a year and they were okay. When I replaced the rear I got a lemon as the sidewall gave way pretty quickly. I've been using Panaracer T-serves in 35 and like them a lot. Same tread as a Pasela but with tougher sidewalls. I've used them for road rides, gravel road rides, and centuries. Give them a try. The Pasela 37s seem to be a little harder to find now that Riv doesn't have them. I wish they'd make a 700x40 T-Serve. --mike On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
If there was a minor cosmetic flaw on that bike in San Diego, it was missed by at least a dozen (or two) critical inspectors. The detailing is fantastic! As to sizing, Ken, you can always make 'em bigger; they're a bit harder to shrink. dougP On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever it it, it certainly raises my curiosity level. I think cosmetic details are important because I find bicycles beautiful, functional art. But, I don't think that anything outside of a horrible color would be cosmetic enough to prevent me from interest in a bicycle. Oh, and one of my very favorite forms of riding is fixed gear off road riding. It's the ultimate under-bike experience. So, if this mystery bike is a fixed gear off roader, I'm really interested. On Apr 20, 7:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
You could just go with the basic wire bead Marathon that Riv sells: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068 They're not supple but they're not that bad, especially when you consider the price. The model Riv sells measures 41 so it should fit on the Hillborne. They're nice off road, durable and confidence inspiring. mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
I just re-assembled a bike with STI for someone who had it shipped (that's a disclaimer so no one thinks I really know anything about the stuff). In checking that everything worked, the front shifts 1 ring for each push of the lever. The lever must be released and return to rest before shifting to the next ring. There seems to be some sort of ratchet mechanism in there. So the short answer is yes, STI indexes on the front. The bike in question is a few years old Specialized aluminum racy road bike, triple front 8 speed rear. dougP On Apr 20, 7:46 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: I think some of the early Shimano brifters had indexed front shifting too. Didn't they? RX100... Shaun Meehan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: MTBs index the front. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
pbh: 91.5 saddle height: currently 83cm I tend to move my saddle height around between 83cm-84cm depending on how my knees are feeling. Last year, I was recovering from a broken leg, and I had to lower it a bit to 83cm. How many of you use this formula? Not me. I wasn't aware of it. My difference is 8.5-9.5 cm. Do you adjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails? (Relateddon't laugh...where does one measure the top of the saddle...the area where you sit, the area right over the seat post? If you think about it, ramming your saddle as far back as it will go is the same as having a bike with a slacker/shallower/lower-number- numerically seat tube angle with the saddle centered on the rails. So I suggest you measure from the center of the BB to the place where you sit on the saddle--not along the seat tube. The idea is to set the reach for your legs, so the location of the seat tube is irrelevant. Be careful adjusting your saddle height. The recommendation is to do it in small increments. If you feel pain in the back of your knee, which can feel like you pulled a muscle in the back of your leg, the saddle is too high. Alternately, if you feel pain or tendonitis in the front of your knee, the saddle is too low. An ad hock rule is usually just an average. Whether the average works for you or not, you'll have to see. If you are just starting to cycle, then you have to start somewhere. Then pay attention to how your knees feel and adjust from there. As Tim McNamara pointed out, what I've heard termed as 'ankling' plays a role as well. Do you naturally pedal with your toes pointed down, i.e. with your heel higher then your toes, or with your feet parallel to the ground? I don't think there is a correct way--just different natural tendencies. Obviously, if you point your toes down, your saddle will be higher than your twin's saddle if he pedals with his feet flat. If you were interested in achieving maximum power output, you could go to a professional fitter, and they could hook you up to a Compu- Trainer and then measure power output with various positions, saddle heights, and fore-aft cleat adjustments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM b...@san.rr.com wrote: My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and has been spot on for my comfort ever since. There is no black magic to Rivendell's fit formula, it's about right in the center of what works for most people's bio-geometry. I wonder if you could give some more details. I almost went to get fit by Dr. Andy Pruitt many years ago. Did you have aches and pains that went away after the fit? Does he still do fittings? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Thanks for the replies. Richard, thanks for the velo orange link. I've read Peter White's article before, but I'm going to read it again. I was under the impression that bar end shifters had two modes: index and friction. If the bar end shifters are in index mode for the front derailleur, do you need ramps and pins for smooth shifting? Or do most people with triples run the front derailleur in friction mode? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
