Re: [RBW] fenders
45 Honjos with Silver sidepulls and 35 Paselas = no touching or rubbing, but tight clearances. Jack Brown's had plenty o' room. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
on 6/14/10 4:27 PM, Lee at leec...@gmail.com wrote: Riv-related content: On every climb I was thinking, Jesus H, how the heck am I going to get the Quickbeam over this thing? Just keep pedalin', pardner... - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Maybe a bike, once discarded, pines away year after year for the first hand that steered it, and as it grows old it dreams, in its bike way, of the young roads. -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bleriot should be done by week's end
Scott - great story behind the photos - I salute you, Bob, and your family for making it happen! I think I'd put that frame on the wall somewhere. It's priceless. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Dirt Rag Grant Profile
I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile-grant-petersen/ Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bleriot should be done by week's end
Wow, I agree. Enjoy the new bike and the brakes. Huge congrats! Super impressed. On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Brian Hanson wrote: Scott - great story behind the photos - I salute you, Bob, and your family for making it happen! I think I'd put that frame on the wall somewhere. It's priceless. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot should be done by week's end
Thanks Brian and Paul... [of course, Paul... I -also- just got an email from Tamie informing me of a delay in shipping because someone isn't back in the shop until Wed. ;-) ...but it was nice speaking to you personally over the phone last week about the Racers!]. -Scott On Jun 14, 11:51 pm, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Wow, I agree. Enjoy the new bike and the brakes. Huge congrats! Super impressed. On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Brian Hanson wrote: Scott - great story behind the photos - I salute you, Bob, and your family for making it happen! I think I'd put that frame on the wall somewhere. It's priceless. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dirt Rag Grant Profile
Nice mini-interview with The Grant. Enjoyed it muchly! -Scott On Jun 14, 11:41 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile... Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv Love in Hawaii...
Yes, I love my Quickbeam and live in Hawaii, but that's not really the point of this email, though my QB is involved... I was on my way home today after doing a bit of research for a volunteer project this weekend and decided to stop to get sandwich to take home. As I'm netting my sandwich to my Platrack I hear a distinct, Excuse me, I just came over to look at your bike. I was across the street and thought I saw a Rivendell. There stood a nice young man, goes by the hand of Evil Genius online, who quite obviously was digging my QB. He's definitely going to be riding one sooner or later if I'm any judge of character. He said he'd seen maybe three here on Oahu. I've seen one, mine. I ended up taking a picture of my bike to send to him, so I'm including that here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4702877562/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4702877562/ But that isn't even the point. He sent me a link with a shot of his Riv-ish Masi (no fenders, but no one is perfect). http://gs-guccilife.blogspot.com/2008/05/alohamrmasi.html http://gs-guccilife.blogspot.com/2008/05/alohamrmasi.html He mentioned that the stems and bars are Nittos from Riv and that recently he's put another coat of shellac on things that needed shellacing. Finally he noted that he's up at a place called K-VIBE here in Kalihi which I've simply got to go check out http://k-vibe.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-k-vibe-works.html http://k-vibe.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-k-vibe-works.html My bike was especially happy today because someone besides me got to appreciate it! Aloha! Bob -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: what would make the best..
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 20:30 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: But now that you mentioned it, maybe Jan Heine can repeat his tire rolling resistance tests, except to test the effect of different numbers and lacing patterns of spokes. Wouldn't a drum test work even better? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. Here's a link: http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of weather and I've lived to tell the tale. Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a cycling rule. Shame on me! Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer than MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material and more bar stitches though. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've used this very same line, Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and doesn't abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear wool shorts too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time. -- *From:* cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 5:04:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow.. A, I get it. Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with wool when it's hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Dirt Rag Grant Profile
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile-grant-petersen/ Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dirt Rag Grant Profile
Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. Now if only GP and Paul would get together and offer a set Hilsen option with Paul Racer level braze ons. The Hilsen and Racer Ms are a match made in bike heaven. Thanks for the link, btw. Good and interesting interview. On Jun 15, 6:37 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile... Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: what would make the best..
Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and embrace your slowness! By far the best advice! On Jun 14, 8:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the tire/ tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by switching to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You save even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish gram 25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second an earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in the front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke weight as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge on DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang for your buck. Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without stopping, etc. Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and embrace your slowness! On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys - good suggestion. i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara Supremems. a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea. and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :) best, andrew- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fenders
- They do look pretty swell. Surprisingly so. I do not quite understand why these neat fenders have not yet found a larger following. - By far the simplest fenders to mount, and also the simplest fenders to mount well. I’ve also used Planet Bike, the regular SKS, and Honjos. My mechanical talents always seem to escape me when it comes to fender lines. Nevertheless, I was able to nail the front fender line almost from the start with the Berthoud Composites. I need to get a longer spacer for the rear fender. Think I will go to the LBS and see if they have any of those spring devices some people use for this purpose. On Jun 15, 12:25 am, E.Mann eric.l.m...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones. I just mounted the Berthoud composite fenders (50mm) on an Atlantis on Saturday. Some observations: - They do look pretty swell. - By far the simplest fenders to mount, and also the simplest fenders to mount well. I’ve also used Planet Bike, the regular SKS, and Honjos. - The single-stay aluminum mounting hardware is noticeably lighter than that of the regular SKS fenders. - As noted by the previous poster, the front fender is longer than regular SKS - The rear fender is much more secure if you drill a third mount point to it. As delivered, they have points at (1) the kickstand plate area and (2) the single stay at the back of the fender. I drilled a hole to secure at a third point at the brake bridge. Without this it was pretty wobbly. With the Atlantis and its cantilever brakes I was able to put a hex screw into the bridge; with sidepull or centerpull brakes you may need to get an L-bracket from the local hardware store. - On the 50mm fenders the inner width measured ~45mm - The plastic/aluminum/plastic sandwich makes for a pretty buff layup. For practical purposes I don’t think metal fenders could be any tougher. All in all they’re great and I’d buy them again. It would be nice if they came in the same 60mm size as the regular SKS though . . . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 56cm Atlantis F/F/HS
Title says it all. Excellent condition. No dents, dings, scrapes, scratches, gouges, ect. Has a few minor pinhead size nicks that have been touched up. It literally looks new from a few feet away. Headset has been repacked and the frame and fork have been treated with framesaver. You won’t be disappointed if this is what your in search of. I’m asking $1300 shipped. Please email me offlist. Thanks, Frank Brose -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bombadi Dreams - What I'd Do
If / when I get a Bombadil here's where I'd take it: http://tourdivide.org/ I enjoy following the race. I'd love to tour the route. I think someone did tour this on a prototype Bombadil a while back. Last year the updates from the racers got more and more interesting as the ride progressed. The photos that riders post/posted convey some of the majesty and hardship involved. -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Love in Hawaii...
Hi Bob. That's a nice moment. My neighborhood has gotten quite young and trendy over the last stretch of years. I think the fixed gear thing got a lot of people out riding in my neighborhood, but now I'm seeing a shift amongst the 20-to-30 year-old set. I see more and more bikes being ridden around shod in fenders, baskets, and shellacked bars. Nitto is highly prized, as are Brooks saddles, lugs, racks, and nice bags. It's a real neat thing to see. People will chat you up, knowledgeably too, about your cool, classy bike. Here's a common weekend sight: http://tinyurl.com/26sy744 When the Mission punk-rock-oriented Pedal Revolution shop is selling Brooks, Nitto racks, and Rambouillets, you know something has changed! :) Also, Box Dog Bikes has probably heavily influenced the younger masses around here, as well. That's a fine shop with classic sensibilities that brings together both the track-side and BOBish-side of the bike world into one small storefront. I've only been riding my Quickbeam for a week now, but I've had six people ask me who makes it :) Best, Lee On Jun 15, 2:10 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I love my Quickbeam and live in Hawaii, but that's not really the point of this email, though my QB is involved... I was on my way home today after doing a bit of research for a volunteer project this weekend and decided to stop to get sandwich to take home. As I'm netting my sandwich to my Platrack I hear a distinct, Excuse me, I just came over to look at your bike. I was across the street and thought I saw a Rivendell. There stood a nice young man, goes by the hand of Evil Genius online, who quite obviously was digging my QB. He's definitely going to be riding one sooner or later if I'm any judge of character. He said he'd seen maybe three here on Oahu. I've seen one, mine. I ended up taking a picture of my bike to send to him, so I'm including that here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4702877562/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4702877562/ But that isn't even the point. He sent me a link with a shot of his Riv-ish Masi (no fenders, but no one is perfect). http://gs-guccilife.blogspot.com/2008/05/alohamrmasi.html http://gs-guccilife.blogspot.com/2008/05/alohamrmasi.html He mentioned that the stems and bars are Nittos from Riv and that recently he's put another coat of shellac on things that needed shellacing. Finally he noted that he's up at a place called K-VIBE here in Kalihi which I've simply got to go check out http://k-vibe.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-k-vibe-works.html http://k-vibe.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-k-vibe-works.html My bike was especially happy today because someone besides me got to appreciate it! Aloha! Bob -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dirt Rag Grant Profile
Yes very nice complement made by Paul Price... who would have thought centerpull brakes would be back on bikes (well some bikes)? I spec'ed the braze on Racers on my new Coho Randonneuse and down tube shifter bosses ( hint for GP). He also eloquently explains Grants' marketing genius, done with minimal advertising except word of mouth, a few minor ads and excellent sites such as this one and Jim's Cyclofiend site. I know there are plenty of others players in this revolution but Grant is a guiding force. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 5:53 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. Now if only GP and Paul would get together and offer a set Hilsen option with Paul Racer level braze ons. The Hilsen and Racer Ms are a match made in bike heaven. Thanks for the link, btw. Good and interesting interview. On Jun 15, 6:37 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile... Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dirt Rag Grant Profile
That was a pleasure to read! Grant describes himself as a one-trick pony. I'll disagree and say that he's also a strong writer. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jun 15, 7:20 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yes very nice complement made by Paul Price... who would have thought centerpull brakes would be back on bikes (well some bikes)? I spec'ed the braze on Racers on my new Coho Randonneuse and down tube shifter bosses ( hint for GP). He also eloquently explains Grants' marketing genius, done with minimal advertising except word of mouth, a few minor ads and excellent sites such as this one and Jim's Cyclofiend site. I know there are plenty of others players in this revolution but Grant is a guiding force. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 5:53 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. Now if only GP and Paul would get together and offer a set Hilsen option with Paul Racer level braze ons. The Hilsen and Racer Ms are a match made in bike heaven. Thanks for the link, btw. Good and interesting interview. On Jun 15, 6:37 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile... Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dirt Rag Grant Profile
prototypical GP quote: What are your interests aside from bicycles? Evolution, astronomy, Bob Dylan, fishing, poetry, film photography, behavior, hiking, pull-ups and dips, and most of all, my fantastic family and dog. Not so much, my cat. On Jun 15, 8:12 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: That was a pleasure to read! Grant describes himself as a one-trick pony. I'll disagree and say that he's also a strong writer. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jun 15, 7:20 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yes very nice complement made by Paul Price... who would have thought centerpull brakes would be back on bikes (well some bikes)? I spec'ed the braze on Racers on my new Coho Randonneuse and down tube shifter bosses ( hint for GP). He also eloquently explains Grants' marketing genius, done with minimal advertising except word of mouth, a few minor ads and excellent sites such as this one and Jim's Cyclofiend site. I know there are plenty of others players in this revolution but Grant is a guiding force. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 5:53 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. Now if only GP and Paul would get together and offer a set Hilsen option with Paul Racer level braze ons. The Hilsen and Racer Ms are a match made in bike heaven. Thanks for the link, btw. Good and interesting interview. On Jun 15, 6:37 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile... Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fenders
I imagine (since we are talking about an imaginary bike), that the Racer Ms will allow 43mm Honjos and Jack Browns no problem. I think I've seen a Ram with such a set-up, but can't recall where. The Ram Rom have the same clearances. Wow. That set-up would be stellar! On Jun 15, 6:02 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: - They do look pretty swell. Surprisingly so. I do not quite understand why these neat fenders have not yet found a larger following. - By far the simplest fenders to mount, and also the simplest fenders to mount well. I’ve also used Planet Bike, the regular SKS, and Honjos. My mechanical talents always seem to escape me when it comes to fender lines. Nevertheless, I was able to nail the front fender line almost from the start with the Berthoud Composites. I need to get a longer spacer for the rear fender. Think I will go to the LBS and see if they have any of those spring devices some people use for this purpose. On Jun 15, 12:25 am, E.Mann eric.l.m...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones. I just mounted the Berthoud composite fenders (50mm) on an Atlantis on Saturday. Some observations: - They do look pretty swell. - By far the simplest fenders to mount, and also the simplest fenders to mount well. I’ve also used Planet Bike, the regular SKS, and Honjos. - The single-stay aluminum mounting hardware is noticeably lighter than that of the regular SKS fenders. - As noted by the previous poster, the front fender is longer than regular SKS - The rear fender is much more secure if you drill a third mount point to it. As delivered, they have points at (1) the kickstand plate area and (2) the single stay at the back of the fender. I drilled a hole to secure at a third point at the brake bridge. Without this it was pretty wobbly. With the Atlantis and its cantilever brakes I was able to put a hex screw into the bridge; with sidepull or centerpull brakes you may need to get an L-bracket from the local hardware store. - On the 50mm fenders the inner width measured ~45mm - The plastic/aluminum/plastic sandwich makes for a pretty buff layup. For practical purposes I don’t think metal fenders could be any tougher. All in all they’re great and I’d buy them again. It would be nice if they came in the same 60mm size as the regular SKS though . . . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: fenders
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine (since we are talking about an imaginary bike), that the Racer Ms will allow 43mm Honjos and Jack Browns no problem. I can't Collapse the waveform and force the bike into existence until a box shows up and I can open it.- so it's not that the bike is imaginary it is that I cannot know the state/position of the bike with certainty. surely you've read some modern physics books. :) And I think this test with a bike is a lot more humane than w/a kitten. I think I've seen a Ram with such a set-up, but can't recall where. The Ram Rom have the same clearances. This thread: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/2b7ab951a58ffb74/d550b72d297794b0?lnk=gstq=paul#d550b72d297794b0 and this image set http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ Wow. That set-up would be stellar! perhaps, perhaps. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: what would make the best..
I posted similar questions to yours a while back as Speed Up My Sam. I had just abandoned my racing bike for a Sam and was struggling with how sluggish it felt when climbing and generally losing 2-3 mph over my average pace. I ultimately just rode the century with my commuting wheels, fenders and racks still attached and finished about a half hour slower than my previous century but with energy to spare and virtually no discomfort. I attribute this to the cushioning of the larger tires and the superior comfort afforded by my rider position on the Sam. I would certainly like to have a set of lighter wheels (32 spokes) and tires for training and events, but for me, when riding anything over 50 miles, the benefits of ultralight wheels and skinny hard tires give way to concerns of comfort, and I don't ride events less than a metric. Certainly, if I was doing triathlons I'd push for something with considerably more zip, but I that's not my scene. I'm also considering an A.H.H., a used Ram or the someday Amos for my sport riding, but still would want them set up with relatively plush tires and durable 32 spoke wheels. I am very interested in the opinions of other Sam owners who have gone with the lighter Rivish wheels and tires. D.G. On Jun 13, 11:39 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys - good suggestion. i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara Supremems. a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea. and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :) best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadi Dreams - What I'd Do
On Jun 15, 9:30 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: If / when I get a Bombadil here's where I'd take it: http://tourdivide.org/ i get a kick out of the letters of intent for this event. makes me want to write my own, but I simply don't have the mental game for the TD. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fenders
On Jun 15, 11:43 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I can't Collapse the waveform and force the bike into existence until a box shows up and I can open it.- so it's not that the bike is imaginary it is that I cannot know the state/position of the bike with certainty. surely you've read some modern physics books. :) And I think this test with a bike is a lot more humane than w/a kitten. what is it with bike geeks and schrodinger's cat? what a wonderfully nerdy bunch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: fenders
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 11:43 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I can't Collapse the waveform and force the bike into existence until a box shows up and I can open it.- so it's not that the bike is imaginary it is that I cannot know the state/position of the bike with certainty. surely you've read some modern physics books. :) And I think this test with a bike is a lot more humane than w/a kitten. what is it with bike geeks and schrodinger's cat? what a wonderfully nerdy bunch. I was a sysadmin in a physics department for 6yrs of my life - it's hard to not absorb a certain amount of it. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dirt Rag Grant Profile
This is really nice, and the follow-up comments are nice, too. I posted it to my Facebook page, along with a link to my own interview with Grant back in 1992: http://www.facebook.com/adventurecorps - Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA http://www.XO-1.org http://www.adventurecorps.com On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anyone post this yet... http://www.dirtragmag.com/blogarific/bicycle-industry-insider-profile... Check out the comments. The comment by Paul Price of Paul Components is nothing short of glowing and just plain cool. -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: what would make the best..
Just my humble opinion but finishing a ride slower that a previous one of equal distance can be due to many factors, fitness level, wind and weather, proper hydration and food intake, tire pressure, etc. etc. Most people ( not here for the most part) think bigger tires means slower. I guess I fall into the category from my personal experience that the tire itself is also a factor. I have a Sam too, with 32 spoke Salsa Delgado rims. I started with Schwalbe Smart Sams in a 40mm wide version( knobbies), went to a 35mm Pasela and now ride the 38mm Schwalbe Marathon Racer. The Racer feels faster than the Pasela even though it’s slightly wider. They roll very well too. So going a little narrower would help and the right tire makes a difference too. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 9:12 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I posted similar questions to yours a while back as Speed Up My Sam. I had just abandoned my racing bike for a Sam and was struggling with how sluggish it felt when climbing and generally losing 2-3 mph over my average pace. I ultimately just rode the century with my commuting wheels, fenders and racks still attached and finished about a half hour slower than my previous century but with energy to spare and virtually no discomfort. I attribute this to the cushioning of the larger tires and the superior comfort afforded by my rider position on the Sam. I would certainly like to have a set of lighter wheels (32 spokes) and tires for training and events, but for me, when riding anything over 50 miles, the benefits of ultralight wheels and skinny hard tires give way to concerns of comfort, and I don't ride events less than a metric. Certainly, if I was doing triathlons I'd push for something with considerably more zip, but I that's not my scene. I'm also considering an A.H.H., a used Ram or the someday Amos for my sport riding, but still would want them set up with relatively plush tires and durable 32 spoke wheels. I am very interested in the opinions of other Sam owners who have gone with the lighter Rivish wheels and tires. D.G. On Jun 13, 11:39 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys - good suggestion. i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara Supremems. a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea. and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :) best, andrew- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bleriot should be done by week's end
Thanks for sharing this very special moment with us, Scott. I felt I was also there with you... René On 6/14/10, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Wow, I agree. Enjoy the new bike and the brakes. Huge congrats! Super impressed. On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Brian Hanson wrote: Scott - great story behind the photos - I salute you, Bob, and your family for making it happen! I think I'd put that frame on the wall somewhere. It's priceless. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: what would make the best..
Good point Mike. Rolling resistance is a huge factor. If the rides are on relatively debris free roads, the Schwalbe Kojak is another comfotably wide tire that rolls very freely. On Jun 15, 1:13 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Just my humble opinion but finishing a ride slower that a previous one of equal distance can be due to many factors, fitness level, wind and weather, proper hydration and food intake, tire pressure, etc. etc. Most people ( not here for the most part) think bigger tires means slower. I guess I fall into the category from my personal experience that the tire itself is also a factor. I have a Sam too, with 32 spoke Salsa Delgado rims. I started with Schwalbe Smart Sams in a 40mm wide version( knobbies), went to a 35mm Pasela and now ride the 38mm Schwalbe Marathon Racer. The Racer feels faster than the Pasela even though it’s slightly wider. They roll very well too. So going a little narrower would help and the right tire makes a difference too. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 9:12 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I posted similar questions to yours a while back as Speed Up My Sam. I had just abandoned my racing bike for a Sam and was struggling with how sluggish it felt when climbing and generally losing 2-3 mph over my average pace. I ultimately just rode the century with my commuting wheels, fenders and racks still attached and finished about a half hour slower than my previous century but with energy to spare and virtually no discomfort. I attribute this to the cushioning of the larger tires and the superior comfort afforded by my rider position on the Sam. I would certainly like to have a set of lighter wheels (32 spokes) and tires for training and events, but for me, when riding anything over 50 miles, the benefits of ultralight wheels and skinny hard tires give way to concerns of comfort, and I don't ride events less than a metric. Certainly, if I was doing triathlons I'd push for something with considerably more zip, but I that's not my scene. I'm also considering an A.H.H., a used Ram or the someday Amos for my sport riding, but still would want them set up with relatively plush tires and durable 32 spoke wheels. I am very interested in the opinions of other Sam owners who have gone with the lighter Rivish wheels and tires. D.G. On Jun 13, 11:39 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys - good suggestion. i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara Supremems. a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea. and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :) best, andrew- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: fenders
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 11:43 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I can't Collapse the waveform and force the bike into existence until a box shows up and I can open it.- so it's not that the bike is imaginary it is that I cannot know the state/position of the bike with certainty. Yes, and if you peek, who knows, you might turn it into a girl's bike, or kill it outright. Oh, the uncertainty of it all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. Here's a link: http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of weather and I've lived to tell the tale. Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a cycling rule. Shame on me! Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer than MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material and more bar stitches though. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've used this very same line, Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and doesn't abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear wool shorts too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time. -- *From:* cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 5:04:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow.. A, I get it. Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days here in Chicago with no complaints at all. None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. Here's a link: http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of weather and I've lived to tell the tale. Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a cycling rule. Shame on me! Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer than MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material and more bar stitches though. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've used this very same line, Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and
[RBW] WTT: Mark's Rack for Nitto Mini
Would anyone like to trade my lightly used Mark's Rack (stays were never even cut) for your Nitto Mini front? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
This cracks me up. Patrick you should know better! I think albuquerque and Tuscon as far as climate and demographics are pretty damn close to being the same place. Same number of people mostly, same deserty (well sonoran vs chihuahuan desert, but still) climate with nearby mountains. Tucson is lower in altitude, but not too much. So, uh, tucson meet your long lost brother albuquerque, albuquerque meet your long lost brother tuscon. As Jim points out, tuscon is a bit wetter and hotter, but not really much. But Patrick, you could probably move to tuscon and not notice you weren't in albuquerque for a bit. Good stuff. Tarik On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. Here's a link: http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of weather and I've lived to tell the tale. Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a cycling rule. Shame on me! Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer than MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them in. Here is the one I am talking about. Typical Swobo, It at least appears to be the toughest in the bunch. Someone complains about the swobo patch sewn inside near the bottom. I never notice it. http://www.swobo.com/catalog/product_info_m.php?cPath=1523products_id=741 The ultra fine merino wool is signicantly lighter than any wool product I have to date. On Jun 15, 2:47 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Have not seen those. Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them in. The lightest ones I own are the NZ versions from Rivendell, in blue. Both sleeved and sleeveless. The latter only if I'm wearing a seersucker top over it. Somehow, I end up reacting to heat different than others. Just ask the folks on the SoCal Riv Ride last August. Nearly collapsed due to dehydration and that was after consuming 2 water bottles on the ride. Luckily Derek had a spare bottle to loan while we were on Coronado. Ugh. Still can't figure that out. Thanks again for that ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 15, 2:28 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days here in Chicago with no complaints at all. None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
I was born in New Mexico (Socorro) and attended college at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, so I think I'm pretty familiar with both Tucson (where I've lived for 30 years) and Albuquerque. Tucson is quite a bit hotter than Albuquerque during the summer, and correspondingly milder during the winter. We don't, for example, get any snow in a typical winter, and temperatures below zero are unheard of in Tucson (not so in Albuquerque, I can assure you!). Tucson is at an elevation of 2,548 feet compared to Albuquerque at 5,352 feet - both measured at their respective airports (Albuquerque is one of the highest elevation major cities in the U.S.). That's a significant difference, and it certainly effects the weather patterns of both cities quite a lot. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 12:46 pm, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: This cracks me up. Patrick you should know better! I think albuquerque and Tuscon as far as climate and demographics are pretty damn close to being the same place. Same number of people mostly, same deserty (well sonoran vs chihuahuan desert, but still) climate with nearby mountains. Tucson is lower in altitude, but not too much. So, uh, tucson meet your long lost brother albuquerque, albuquerque meet your long lost brother tuscon. As Jim points out, tuscon is a bit wetter and hotter, but not really much. But Patrick, you could probably move to tuscon and not notice you weren't in albuquerque for a bit. Good stuff. Tarik On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with polyester
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. Not my thing, generally. But, I don't mind a jersey that mimics the classic wool team jersey look of the 1960-1970's, without advertising. These are hard to find in currently manufactured synthetic jerseys, although they occasionally pop up. The Ground Effect jersey I've mentioned looks reasonably plain, if unexciting, and L.L Bean makes a jersey that doesn't mimic the billboard jerseys worn in the pelotons of today. I don't ride with others so the team apparel look doesn't appeal, although it's much in evidence around Tucson amongst the hard riding club riders. Jim Cloud On Jun 15, 12:28 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days here in Chicago with no complaints at all. None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. Here's a link: http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the thinnest merino tops
[RBW] bending Nitto struts
Any tips/suggestions for bending some aluminum struts for the Nitto Top Rack? The braze-ons on my new bike are fairly low (compact frame) and the struts on the top rack only come out parallel to the rack, and end up too high. So I need a 3o degree bend or so. Probably not rocket science, just clamp and bend, just wondering if others have bent these struts successfully. Thanks, Kyle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
I have an 89cm PHB, and the 61cm Bleriot was a touch small. I believe due to their lower bb and possibly slacker seat tube. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: I am 5’-8.5”, 85 cm PBH, and I ride a 59 cm Bleriot very comfortably. Leg length can vary considerably relative to height. *-- **Jon “Papa” Grant *Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 *Drawings — all sorts * -- *From: *Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Date: *Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:12:35 -0700 *To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [RBW] Re: The Bleriot Build... I'm 5' 9 and bought the 57cm B-lo, and have regretted it every time I get on it. I like the bike well enough, but it's too small. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Man...I am 5'9 and 59 would be WAY too big for me. Maybe I have stubby legs. :) On Jun 12, 6:36 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: All that said, Bob is building me another bike. So that one [a full- on/purpose-built Rando bike w/SS couplers] BB does this style of bike real well. It should be a very worthy replacement. Plus the Bleriot [Big Dummy and Pugsley], and I am covered in my estimate. Adequately covered I guess ;) On Jun 12, 4:58 am, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly on one hand [so many fantastic memories, plus... how can I even begin to process personally what that bike has done for with me?], and excitedly on the other [because it kind of means Success, look what you've accomplished... ] the answer is, Yes I am. The Bob Brown custom [what I call BBC#1 to differentiate from my wife's Bob Brown BBC#2], while it's gone through about 20 different incarnations as my body has changed in the last 4.5 years and is still sprite and nimble in its current setup, has a geometry that no longer can really be altered through components and adjustments to suit my body. It's what I call, Comfortably uncomfortable. I am stripping it down to just frame fork and packing it away. I'll never sell it [how could I?] but I am of the mind that it is time to look forward. Some of the parts will go onto the Bleriot, some to the Parts Bin. All that said, Bob is building me another bike. So that one [a full- on/purpose-built Rando bike w/SS couplers], plus the Bleriot [Big Dummy and Pugsley], and I am covered in my estimate. After quite a bit of thinking, and then talking with my wife, it's time to pack it away... but I am excited about what's next. And what's next for me is personally very big... and I'll be needing a bike that can take me into this new chapter. Made myself two basic promises at the start of all this: No.1 is intact and held close to heart, and accomplished maintained daily; No.2, well that one... it's time to start paying up on that one because I have to know what I am capable of. Heavy heart, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada [but it is kind of heavy honestly said: BBC#1 saved my life]... -Scott On Jun 11, 2:52 pm, Jansenh blink...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Used to follow your blog (but didn't post much). Are you retiring your Bob Brown, or is the Bleriot meant to compliment (i.e. different purpose build). On Jun 11, 12:52 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks... Yes, it's a 59. I am 5ft 9in when standing without my wife nearby, 5ft 10.5in when she's around [I have a tendency to give-in to the 'life-long-drummers'/5-years-on-a-bike-cyclist/years-of-being- overweight slump' my spine enjoys, that is until my wife is nearby... and she makes me stand up straight by jabbing me in my ribcage]. I am curious about the Hetres, and plan to try them sometime soon. Hopefully today I'll get some additional parts installed and post more photos... -Scott On Jun 11, 5:46 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I guess I did not realize you were so tall (of course I have only seen you in flickr photos on my computer screen. That looks to be a 59, correct? Anyway, it is shaping up fine. Nice SON up front, King in the back, Velocitys. You will really be able to put some miles on that bike. Give Hetres a try some time. On Jun 11, 12:48 am, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: ...has -finally- begun. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624125215767/ Very excited to get this bike up running on the road. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
Jim, I was mostly laughing at Patrick asking what was essentially a monsoon question, which he should know better about. I know you have a NM background. I think we talked about this before at some point. I think from a broad brush standpoint high southwest desert cities in the US of 1 million population in the major metro area with monsoon weather patterns are pretty similar... The difference in temperature and precipitation is almost irrelevant really in the big picture. To answer Patircks question: Isn't Tucson bone dry in the summer? the answer might have been: No, Tucson's weather patterns are pretty darn similar to where you live. Tarik, all he knows really is that Albuquerque is in the lowlands. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I was born in New Mexico (Socorro) and attended college at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, so I think I'm pretty familiar with both Tucson (where I've lived for 30 years) and Albuquerque. Tucson is quite a bit hotter than Albuquerque during the summer, and correspondingly milder during the winter. We don't, for example, get any snow in a typical winter, and temperatures below zero are unheard of in Tucson (not so in Albuquerque, I can assure you!). Tucson is at an elevation of 2,548 feet compared to Albuquerque at 5,352 feet - both measured at their respective airports (Albuquerque is one of the highest elevation major cities in the U.S.). That's a significant difference, and it certainly effects the weather patterns of both cities quite a lot. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 12:46 pm, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: This cracks me up. Patrick you should know better! I think albuquerque and Tuscon as far as climate and demographics are pretty damn close to being the same place. Same number of people mostly, same deserty (well sonoran vs chihuahuan desert, but still) climate with nearby mountains. Tucson is lower in altitude, but not too much. So, uh, tucson meet your long lost brother albuquerque, albuquerque meet your long lost brother tuscon. As Jim points out, tuscon is a bit wetter and hotter, but not really much. But Patrick, you could probably move to tuscon and not notice you weren't in albuquerque for a bit. Good stuff. Tarik On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the
[RBW] FS: Sugino Alpina Crank
NIB! Sugino Alpina2-800D Crank set - 34/48 - 170mm - JIS taper, $125 plus shipping cost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream
I used to when going to college back in the day. Would wear out jeans in about 3 months. Plus have some scars to remember that time. So, for a short (sub 5 mile) ride, maybe. For my commute, nope. Maybe not looking like a total bike geek, but will never be confused for a Fred. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 14, 3:19�pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: High heels make no sense to me wherever the wearer happens to be. Otherwise, I agree there are many situations that everyday clothes are just as good for riding the bike as bike centric. On Jun 14, 2:37�pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Look out, here comes the revolution. http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] bending Nitto struts
I bent mine to get the Nitto R14 low and as close to the frame as possible. Didn't have anny issues. René On 6/12/10, KyleBH holla...@gmail.com wrote: Any tips/suggestions for bending some aluminum struts for the Nitto Top Rack? The braze-ons on my new bike are fairly low (compact frame) and the struts on the top rack only come out parallel to the rack, and end up too high. So I need a 3o degree bend or so. Probably not rocket science, just clamp and bend, just wondering if others have bent these struts successfully. Thanks, Kyle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] bending Nitto struts
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:38 AM, KyleBH holla...@gmail.com wrote: Any tips/suggestions for bending some aluminum struts for the Nitto Top Rack? The braze-ons on my new bike are fairly low (compact frame) and the struts on the top rack only come out parallel to the rack, and end up too high. So I need a 3o degree bend or so. Probably not rocket science, just clamp and bend, just wondering if others have bent these struts successfully. Check out the rivendell videos on youtube - there is one on there of mark mounting a rear rack and he bends the struts like you'd want. it's cool. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..and wool jerseys
I just got the Median jersey from Ground Effects in New Zealand. It is wool on the inside and synthetic on the outside. It seems very well made and the size large fits me perfect ( not so with Swobo Merino jersey... is the new Trad model supposed to improve fit? ). The price is very reasonable and shipping was cheap. I have not tried it out yet because summer in the inland valleys of Southern Cal are fairly hot and above 85F I prefer to wear light synthetic tops. I have an Ibex Indie lightweight 100% wool jersey and they fit nice too. It's great between 60- 80F. Here is a link http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-MED-MER.htm ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 1:35 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. Not my thing, generally. But, I don't mind a jersey that mimics the classic wool team jersey look of the 1960-1970's, without advertising. These are hard to find in currently manufactured synthetic jerseys, although they occasionally pop up. The Ground Effect jersey I've mentioned looks reasonably plain, if unexciting, and L.L Bean makes a jersey that doesn't mimic the billboard jerseys worn in the pelotons of today. I don't ride with others so the team apparel look doesn't appeal, although it's much in evidence around Tucson amongst the hard riding club riders. Jim Cloud On Jun 15, 12:28 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days here in Chicago with no complaints at all. None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry
[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
The Ground Effect jersey I've mentioned looks reasonably plain, if unexciting, Definitely avoids a lot of the hyperbole you see on some of the makes out there. There is arguably a market for the loud stuff. Not sure I understand it, but there are a lot of things people do I can't clam to understand. On Jun 15, 3:35 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. Not my thing, generally. But, I don't mind a jersey that mimics the classic wool team jersey look of the 1960-1970's, without advertising. These are hard to find in currently manufactured synthetic jerseys, although they occasionally pop up. The Ground Effect jersey I've mentioned looks reasonably plain, if unexciting, and L.L Bean makes a jersey that doesn't mimic the billboard jerseys worn in the pelotons of today. I don't ride with others so the team apparel look doesn't appeal, although it's much in evidence around Tucson amongst the hard riding club riders. Jim Cloud On Jun 15, 12:28 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days here in Chicago with no complaints at all. None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new technical plastic fabrics. Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the garment or anything like that. I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction knickers -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in New Zealand as a summer
Re: [RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 16:39 -0700, EricP wrote: I used to when going to college back in the day. Would wear out jeans in about 3 months. Plus have some scars to remember that time. So, for a short (sub 5 mile) ride, maybe. For my commute, nope. Maybe not looking like a total bike geek, but will never be confused for a Fred. You don't know what misery is until you discover you've worn out the seat of a pair of wool dress slacks riding your bicycle to work. Back 30 years ago they were over a hundred bucks a pair. I can only imagine what they cost today. If you ride a lot on weekends, you have shorts and jerseys that are pretty worn, perhaps a bit too shabby for you to want to wear on a good ride -- or maybe they're starting to get a little Lycra Leprosy in non-sensitive areas, but with plenty of wear left in the seat. So instead of throwing them out, use them on your commute. There are thousands of perfectly good miles left in those old cycling clothes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update
First the request for help. Any of you that own a 650B Hilsen or Saluki or Bleriot or Protovelo. Could you please take an approximate measurement of the straigth line distance from the center of the front hub axle to the base of the fork crown race? I want to figure out how close it is to the 365mm length on my current 700C fork. If it's 10mm or so longer than mine that would be perfecto. If it's shorter, that would be bad for my conceptual project. Thanks in advance to whomever can help. OK, ride report. I did a 650B conversion on my Davidson Signature. It's a lugged 700C road bike that I had built custom in 1992. Photos of the conversion are on my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157623997627595/ I rode the bike on about a 30 miler in the East Bay hills on Sunday, and also rode it in to work today from El Cerrito to South Hayward. I really enjoy road riding on 650B. The bike feels just as light and fast as it does with 700C wheels, but it rolls over the patchy pavement of the East Bay hills far better than I've ever felt on 700x23 tires. I'm running Maxy Fastys at about 65psi. It's really very fun. I have both wheelsets, so I can switch back and forth from 700C to 650B in under 20min. The lowlight of the conversion is that with 650BX33 tires, the BB has dropped almost a centimeter. I need to get a lot quicker about flipping in to my left toeclip after a stop. If I'm not in, the dragging is beating that thing up. Pedalling through turns is not a problem that I can tell. I've never been aggressive in that way, and haven't noticed any issue there yet. I could obviously solve the toe clip issue with clipless or platforms, which I may do. I hoped to run Pari Motos, which would make up another 5 or 6mm of my BB height reduction. The Pari Moto fits in the back, but not up front. Hence, the measurement above. Riv said they could sell me a Saluki/Hilsen fork. If that fork is a bit longer than my 700C fork, then that might give me a little more of my BB height back. If it's shorter, then it's probably not worth it, and I'll stay with Maxy-Fastys and use the PariMotos on my Bombadil for smoother stuff. I'm now leaning towards the idea of having 3 700C bikes: A gofast (Davidson), a middleweight (Hillborne), and a heavyweight (Hunqa). Add to that 3 650B bikes: A gofast (this Davidson with the 650B kit), a middleweight (TBD) and a heavyweight (Bombadil) For the middleweight, I'm thinking a 58cm 650B Hilsen, or an Ebisu, a VO Polyvalent, a Betty Foy, I'm not sure. Something that can go to PariMotos or Hetres should be ample. It's really a great alternative in my view. I can say pretty emphatically that I likely will never go back to 26. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update
I get 37 cm on my Saluki from center of skewer to underside of headset. From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 5:28:10 PM Subject: [RBW] Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update First the request for help. Any of you that own a 650B Hilsen or Saluki or Bleriot or Protovelo. Could you please take an approximate measurement of the straigth line distance from the center of the front hub axle to the base of the fork crown race? I want to figure out how close it is to the 365mm length on my current 700C fork. If it's 10mm or so longer than mine that would be perfecto. If it's shorter, that would be bad for my conceptual project. Thanks in advance to whomever can help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update
My understanding is that the A. Homer Hilsen is now available in 650B in sizes: 47-50-52-54-56-58 and in 700C in sizes: 57-59-61-63-65-67-69-71 It says so on the AHH page: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/a-homer-hilsen/50-650 For the size chart, you just look at the Saluki numbers on their big pdf. The Saluki and the 650B AHH are the same thing. At least that's how it has been explained to me. On Jun 15, 5:23 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Do they make a 58 650b Hilsen? I thought you could not do that conversion becausse the bottom bracket is low already. If they did that would be on the my short list too. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 4:14 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I get 37 cm on my Saluki from center of skewer to underside of headset. From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 5:28:10 PM Subject: [RBW] Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update First the request for help. Any of you that own a 650B Hilsen or Saluki or Bleriot or Protovelo. Could you please take an approximate measurement of the straigth line distance from the center of the front hub axle to the base of the fork crown race? I want to figure out how close it is to the 365mm length on my current 700C fork. If it's 10mm or so longer than mine that would be perfecto. If it's shorter, that would be bad for my conceptual project. Thanks in advance to whomever can help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update
It seems that the geometry is a bit different on the 650b model. Slacker head angle and less fork rake. I wonder if they sell more of the 700c model in the similar sizes or more of the 650B? ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 5:34 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that the A. Homer Hilsen is now available in 650B in sizes: 47-50-52-54-56-58 and in 700C in sizes: 57-59-61-63-65-67-69-71 It says so on the AHH page: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/a-homer-hilsen/50-650 For the size chart, you just look at the Saluki numbers on their big pdf. The Saluki and the 650B AHH are the same thing. At least that's how it has been explained to me. On Jun 15, 5:23 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Do they make a 58 650b Hilsen? I thought you could not do that conversion becausse the bottom bracket is low already. If they did that would be on the my short list too. ~Mike~ On Jun 15, 4:14 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I get 37 cm on my Saluki from center of skewer to underside of headset. From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 5:28:10 PM Subject: [RBW] Request for a 650B measurement, and a ride report update First the request for help. Any of you that own a 650B Hilsen or Saluki or Bleriot or Protovelo. Could you please take an approximate measurement of the straigth line distance from the center of the front hub axle to the base of the fork crown race? I want to figure out how close it is to the 365mm length on my current 700C fork. If it's 10mm or so longer than mine that would be perfecto. If it's shorter, that would be bad for my conceptual project. Thanks in advance to whomever can help.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
5ft 9.5in and gotta 57cm Bleriot that fits perfectly-- could have definitely gone bigger(59), but not smaller(55). Best bike ever-- though I would like to have a Sam. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
Swobo puts weird/strange/ whimsical little details on their products. The chainlink on the Sunday Bobby shirts is nice, but the yellow stitching by the neck is not so much. That said, as Joel mentioned, their wool is extremely light weight, especially the NZ made products. Fiji stuff is pretty good, too. They work s great in warm/hot weather, but that may not be valid in humid climes. Dry inland CA is not a problem though. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Is that a pocket or a giant patch on the bottom of the shirt? If pocket, is it useful? If patch what in the heck is on the other side? Tarik On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them in. Here is the one I am talking about. Typical Swobo, It at least appears to be the toughest in the bunch. Someone complains about the swobo patch sewn inside near the bottom. I never notice it. http://www.swobo.com/catalog/product_info_m.php?cPath=1523products_id=741 The ultra fine merino wool is signicantly lighter than any wool product I have to date. On Jun 15, 2:47 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Have not seen those. Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them in. The lightest ones I own are the NZ versions from Rivendell, in blue. Both sleeved and sleeveless. The latter only if I'm wearing a seersucker top over it. Somehow, I end up reacting to heat different than others. Just ask the folks on the SoCal Riv Ride last August. Nearly collapsed due to dehydration and that was after consuming 2 water bottles on the ride. Luckily Derek had a spare bottle to loan while we were on Coronado. Ugh. Still can't figure that out. Thanks again for that ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 15, 2:28 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days here in Chicago with no complaints at all. None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if that is your thing. On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our Dog days of Summer. Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably work well. The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the day. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our summer weather. Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for ventilation. I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and
