[RBW] Re: Silver shifter break apart diagram
I know this wasn't your question, but is the pod stuck, or are you turning the allen key the wrong way? Bar- end shifter pods (at least Shimano?) are loosened from the bars by a clockwise turning of the key, IIRC. In other words, reverse threaded. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Good luck, Gernot On Jul 17, 4:55 am, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: I had that happen, I looked at the other one to figure it out. After I spent about half an hour finding the little spring on the carpet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild
Lovely. May I suggest a tweak? Shorten the kickstand (a simple hacksaw will do). But don't cut it too short. If you want to run wider tires at some point, leave it long enough so it will work with the widest tires that fit. Another way to shorten the kickstand for your medium tires if you don't want to take a saw to it is to take off the kick stand's rubber feet and put them in a safe place at home so you don't have to lift the bike as high to get it onto the stand. That's what I do with my Sam and my JB Greens. If I mount my big fat knobby 42mms, I put the rubber foot back on. Cheers, Gernot On Jul 19, 9:14 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: All over but the shouting. Now the only things left to do are to cut the rear rack stays and to put on the reel lights. Oh, and mount a new rear brake. Then ...let the tweaking begin! http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%205?h=f99605 Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 11, 5:02 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: First real ride of the build! iPhone (3G, unfortunately), so not particularly stunning. But they wouldn't be anyway, given that I'm handling the camera. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%204%20-%2... Yours, Thoams Lynn Skean On Jul 4, 7:42 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: More quantity, probably no more quality. It is now ride-able (and is really nice to ride!). But obviously many things are yet to be done. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%202?h=29474f Previously thought unthinkable, I have discovered that there are in fact non-weird bikes with Handlebars That Are Too High. Which is truly great! I'll lower them later. More build pics after fleshing out stuff... Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild
Hi! Yes, I've already chopped over 40mm off. It could probably stand to be another 10-15mm shorter. But I want to have some margin for uneven surfaces. I don't know; I'm going to be chopping the rear rack stays while I still have a friend's dremel-ish rotary tool (fun and scary to use). Perhaps I'll lop off someorr kickstand while I'm at it. I have a spare. And if I go just a litle too far then I'm sure some 650B- or 26-wheel rider on this list wouldn't mind having a customized kickstand for cheap! Isn't the smallest Hunqa going to be a 26-er? :) Keep those tweak ideas comin'i Thanks! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely. May I suggest a tweak? Shorten the kickstand (a simple hacksaw will do). But don't cut it too short. If you want to run wider tires at some point, leave it long enough so it will work with the widest tires that fit. Another way to shorten the kickstand for your medium tires if you don't want to take a saw to it is to take off the kick stand's rubber feet and put them in a safe place at home so you don't have to lift the bike as high to get it onto the stand. That's what I do with my Sam and my JB Greens. If I mount my big fat knobby 42mms, I put the rubber foot back on. Cheers, Gernot On Jul 19, 9:14 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: All over but the shouting. Now the only things left to do are to cut the rear rack stays and to put on the reel lights. Oh, and mount a new rear brake. Then ...let the tweaking begin! http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%205?h=f99605 Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 11, 5:02 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: First real ride of the build! iPhone (3G, unfortunately), so not particularly stunning. But they wouldn't be anyway, given that I'm handling the camera. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%204%20-%2... Yours, Thoams Lynn Skean On Jul 4, 7:42 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: More quantity, probably no more quality. It is now ride-able (and is really nice to ride!). But obviously many things are yet to be done. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%202?h=29474f Previously thought unthinkable, I have discovered that there are in fact non-weird bikes with Handlebars That Are Too High. Which is truly great! I'll lower them later. More build pics after fleshing out stuff... Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I think they are worth it. Phils are a bit pricey (esp the cassette hub) but are very well done. On my road bikes I'm also in the haven't touched the Phil hubs (or BB) in over 10 years camp. I raced a Rivendell Cyclocross bike for four years, I replaced one non- driveside rear bearing towards the end of that time frame. Those wheels have an additional seven years of service on a Rambouillet...with no additional maintenance. I think that is pretty good! Same story on a MTB, rear Phil hub, one non-drive side bearing in over 10 years. The Shimano hubs I was using prior would last 1-3 years, drive side seals were not good, broke internal parts etc... Angus On Jul 16, 4:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tires for Sam Hillborne
Been contemplating tires again on my Hillborne. About a week and a half ago, pulled the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x40 off and went with the positively skinny Panaracer Pasela TG 700x35. Now, while these tires seem heavier than the Schwalbe, paradoxically the bike seems faster. However, part of me is going why not shove in the biggest tire the bike can take with fenders? Then I could slightly lower the pressure and go for more cush. Incidently, next weekend will be riding on a limestone rail/trail. Something worth considering. Maybe the 35s are too skinny for that type of adventure? Opinions? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tires for Sam Hillborne
Last year I toured on Schwalbe Marathon 700x47 (actual 41) and they were fine. Sure, they're a bit sluggish but fine for touring. No flats and performed well off-road. I got them through Rivendell and they were really quite cheap. And considering how well they wear, they're about one of the best deals out there for a tire. Currently I have Schwalbe Marathon 700x40 (37?) on my Hilsen and am heading out for a camping trip. I like those also, I pulled them off my commuter. I'm expecting them to perform about the same, just a little less cush. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Here's a few upgrade ideas: Pedals - on a long ride, a nice, smooth pair of pedals with comfortable clips and straps (if you use them) are a true luxury. Check out the Grip Kings, White Industries Urban Pedals, Soma double- toe straps and/or the VO leather-clap toe clips. Rectangular cage pedals are ok, but can dig into your sole (and maybe your soul) after a while. Brake Levers - If you are using drop bars, go for the Shimano Tiagras. They are worth it. If using Albatross bars (do choose the Albatross over the Dove), there aren't may upgrade options but the Paul levers for Cantis are nice. Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs. Bottom Bracket - you could go for a Phil but I'd suggest putting the money towards other things first. The $40 BB will last plenty long. Headset - There aren't too many nice looking, silver upgrades available in 1. Chris King is a bit garish for a Betty Foy. Cane Creek is a little more subdued but still has logos. Campy Record might be a good choice but worth $100? Hmm... that will start another long discussion. Brake pads - Request salmon brake pads. They are a luxury and are worth the few extra bucks. Racks - The Nitto Mark's rack is so nice on a Betty Foy. The Nitto full racks are beautiful though pricey. On Jul 19, 1:11 am, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: So for those of you who are using IRD freewheels with your PW hubs, what are your thoughts on the QC issues that IRD has had. The folks at Rivendell seem to think the problems are over but reading various online forums, I am not so sure. Keely On Jul 18, 10:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. philip 97128 On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: setup question for IRD Alpina-d on Sam
Yep, that's how mine is setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tires for Sam Hillborne
I've ridden miles of crushed limestone rail trails in WI on my 650b Grand Bois Cypres (32mm) and my wife was on Pasela TGs 700x37 I believe, with no complaints from either of us. I now live in western MN on gravel roads. The tires felt much more surefooted on the crushed limestone. They aren't bad on the gravel, just not as stable as I was hoping in some of the looser stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] One reason for us to like bigger tires
Strapped cities and counties turning paved roads into gravel roads: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704913304575370950363737746.html -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano bar end shifters, San Marco Rolls
Hello, Do the bar end shifters include the bar mount pods? Thanks On Jul 15, 7:43 pm, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I have a pair of Shimano Bar-end shifters. This was a pair of 8-speed indexed/friction shifters, but the index mode for the right lever stopped working, but it still works perfectly in friction mode. $25 shipped. (looking for trade: silver downtube shifters) Another thing I have is a Selle San Marco Rolls saddle. Black with pattern; ti rail. like new conditions. $75 shipped CONUS. Here are pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/4785512480/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/4785511512/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/4784878125/in/photostream/ Franklyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tires for Sam Hillborne
That's funny, Eric. I had the same experience after moving to some fat (44ish) Contis. The 35mm Paselas seem like racing slicks in comparison!!! On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:49 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Been contemplating tires again on my Hillborne. About a week and a half ago, pulled the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x40 off and went with the positively skinny Panaracer Pasela TG 700x35. Now, while these tires seem heavier than the Schwalbe, paradoxically the bike seems faster. However, part of me is going why not shove in the biggest tire the bike can take with fenders? Then I could slightly lower the pressure and go for more cush. Incidently, next weekend will be riding on a limestone rail/trail. Something worth considering. Maybe the 35s are too skinny for that type of adventure? Opinions? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
If you are putting ten thousands of miles on the hub they may be worth it. In case you cycling where a hub problem would be catastrophic it would be worth it. If you mind repacking a shimano hub every year (or 10,000 miles) they are worth it. Shimano hubs are great. And for your intended purpose they are fine. Save money, go with an ultegra hub. PS: I ride PW, Shimano, Schmidt and DT hubs and have used each for many thousands of miles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650b vs. Big Apples
I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Powderpiggy, I use FW's exclusively with 2 sets of Phil Touring Hubs. I use mostly Sachs at present, but still have some Suntour FW's. Because of the very inconsistent quality of the IRD's , I've stayed away from them. I don't like IRD's cog selection on the 13-32 either, the 15-18 jump is too big, especially in the big ring. A 15-17-20-24 progression is perfect. IRD had supposedly fixed their problems, but even some of their latest ones are prone to failure, from what I've read in probably the same forums. For the premium price IRD retails for, this is just not acceptable. I've been able to amass a large selection of Sachs and Suntour bodies and cogs, but most people can't do that, it takes a long time. For new users, the only other choices are Shimano and Sunrace and other assorted Asian brands, but the cog selection is even more limited. IRD has some more FW's due this summer, I don't know if these will called Mark V, or what. but I sure hope they fix their issues. It does no one any good to have FW failures. Weather this is a mass or isolated problem, the public perception of many is that IRD FW's are overpriced and unreliable. The Velo Orange guy has even been pondering making FW's as they have some new FW hubs being made for them. That would be a welcomed addition to the FW supply. . . .granted they're made well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
On Jul 19, 9:31 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? i don't know the numbers, but I'm guessing the Big Apple weighs about 2-3 times more than a tire like the Pacenti Pari-Moto. but, by all accounts, the Big Apple is a great rolling tire. comfort is a given. Will 650b tires feel quicker? yes, probably - the nice ones are lighter and sport some fancy casings. but, it really depends on how/ where you ride. If you want something performance oriented, I'd go with 650b. If you just want fat, comfortable, durable tires and don't care about the extra weight/performance stuff - well, i'd probably still go with 650b. but Big Apples would be great too, i'm sure. what kind of riding do you plan on doing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
700x60 or even 50 are big tires. They put you higher off the street. Not an issue if you are taller and have a larger bike. Average to shorter riders get something of the feeling lamplighters used to get on larger bikes. Leastways that is how I felt when I put Big Apples on a road bike. As Patrick says, BAs are well made and roll wonderfully. There is an account from a (an apparently tall) Dutch Rider who used BAs on his ride across the United States. He did not have one flat. They are good tires if you have the right bike. On the other hand, average height to shorter riders get a lot of the same benefits with 650bs. Nice, cush wide tires without putting you into outerspace. That is why I am going 650b. On Jul 19, 8:31 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Chris King is a bit garish for a Betty Foy. Sotto Voce CK headsets do not have that visible a logo. Same with the Ti if you can afford it. On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a few upgrade ideas: Pedals - on a long ride, a nice, smooth pair of pedals with comfortable clips and straps (if you use them) are a true luxury. Check out the Grip Kings, White Industries Urban Pedals, Soma double- toe straps and/or the VO leather-clap toe clips. Rectangular cage pedals are ok, but can dig into your sole (and maybe your soul) after a while. Brake Levers - If you are using drop bars, go for the Shimano Tiagras. They are worth it. If using Albatross bars (do choose the Albatross over the Dove), there aren't may upgrade options but the Paul levers for Cantis are nice. Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs. Bottom Bracket - you could go for a Phil but I'd suggest putting the money towards other things first. The $40 BB will last plenty long. Headset - There aren't too many nice looking, silver upgrades available in 1. Chris King is a bit garish for a Betty Foy. Cane Creek is a little more subdued but still has logos. Campy Record might be a good choice but worth $100? Hmm... that will start another long discussion. Brake pads - Request salmon brake pads. They are a luxury and are worth the few extra bucks. Racks - The Nitto Mark's rack is so nice on a Betty Foy. The Nitto full racks are beautiful though pricey. On Jul 19, 1:11 am, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: So for those of you who are using IRD freewheels with your PW hubs, what are your thoughts on the QC issues that IRD has had. The folks at Rivendell seem to think the problems are over but reading various online forums, I am not so sure. Keely On Jul 18, 10:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. philip 97128 On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: setup question for IRD Alpina-d on Sam
Looks right now. Well done. On Jul 18, 7:12 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Okay, all I have is an after picture, which is not that good. Apparently a very significant aspect of the alpina-d derailer is my complete inability to take a good picture of it. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%20-%20der... Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 16, 9:25 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Yep, when I look at it now and ignore the channel (I'm friction-shifting in the front; I have no reason to follow an STI-intended cable path), I see what effect routing over the nubby-thingy will have; it'll change the angle of the cable's path to the mechanism in such a way, it appears, that would lower the amount of derailer travel for a given amount of cable pull-or-release, slowing the shifting. I certainly see no downside there. When I shift in front, deliberate and controlled are much more important than fast. And a big reason I prefer friction shifting in the front is to be able to trim the chain angle; being able to do that with more precision is also a plus. It might even reduce/eliminate the interference that inspired this thread in the first place. Before-and-after pictures (*good* ones this time) to follow. Thanks, William. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:24 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: No 180 bends. Just over the knub and over the bolt and tighten. Just like in the picture. If there is a channel that appears to run under the knub thing, that is the alternate routing for STI and a triple. On Jul 16, 3:47 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks for that info, William. I'll look at it again tonight. Any idea what role that channel is supposed to play? My vague recollection is that I'll need to bend the cable 180 degrees to go over the nub and through the channel. If so, that seems harsh somehow. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 16, 2010, at 4:59 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the photo of the cable routed correctly on a not-identical derailleur. http://softsolder.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dsc03170-front-deraille... On Jul 16, 2:57 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I agree it's not a problem, but from your photos it does appear that you have your cable routed wrong. In that third photo, the anchor bolt thread into the derailleur arm. On the arm is a bump, an appendage, a knubby thing. The cable is supposed to wrap OVER that knubby thing. From the picture, it looks like you have it neatly tucked UNDER that knubby thing. With the cable routed the way you appear to have it, a couple things are going to happen. The potentially good thing is that your shifting will feel faster. The derailleur will move farther with a smaller move of the shiftlever. The bad things are twofold. One is you are putting more bending strain on the cable routed that way, so it will fail sooner. Whether sooner is 9 years instead of 10, or 1 year instead of 10 is hard to predict. The second thing is that with the faster moving derailleur geometry, it's trickier to trim out the rubs with delicate shifter moves. I recommend you confirm that the cable is routed correctly, completely independent of whether it touches that cylinder. On Jul 16, 2:41 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Here are really grainy photos of my setup: http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/site/?/photos/ first picture is when the chain is on the middle chain ring, (barely) showing the cable straight and clear second picture is when the chain is on the inner chain ring, (barely) showing the cable bending around the black cylinder third picture is simply showing how the cable is anchored, which is apparently the way the derailer intends to have the cable anchored, in that there is a slight channel under where the anchor bolt squeezes and the cable is lined up with it As I say, the interference appears to affect nothing. So (especially knowing that the black cylinder need not roll at all) I'm fine with it as it is. And that's good, because I can't see that I can avoid the interference. Thanks for helping me look into this! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 15, 8:36 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look and, yes, my cable touches the black cylinder as well. I, too, find it a bit odd but seems harmless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I used PW hubs and bottom brackets for years on a tandem, and on one of my racing bikes. Since everyone has covered the advantages, I'll mention one possible negative: PW hubs aren't all that sophisticated in terms of the bearing seals, so if you use the hubs in extreme conditions, they may not yield the level of reliability that they have for most users. That said, the only reports that have ever emerged (to my knowledge) on hub failures have come from the randonneuring community, who may tend to ride longer and in worse conditions that all but the most extreme cyclists in other categories. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT: Mark's Rack for your Nitto Mini
Hello, Would anyone like to trade my lightly used Mark's rack (struts have never been trimmed) for your Nitto Mini front rack? Please reply off list and thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
I think it's perception. You don't get Big Apples for speed - I got them for the cush ride. I have 26x2.1s on my mtb (beater bike), and they transformed the bumpy, rutty commute to a smooth Cadillac glide that I immediately loved. I have them at 30psi, so that helps. Even so, I was coasting down a long hill the other day behind a gal on 23c road slicks, and was gaining on her. It's all physics at that point (mass, friction, aerodynamics). Brian On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:46 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: 700x60 or even 50 are big tires. They put you higher off the street. Not an issue if you are taller and have a larger bike. Average to shorter riders get something of the feeling lamplighters used to get on larger bikes. Leastways that is how I felt when I put Big Apples on a road bike. As Patrick says, BAs are well made and roll wonderfully. There is an account from a (an apparently tall) Dutch Rider who used BAs on his ride across the United States. He did not have one flat. They are good tires if you have the right bike. On the other hand, average height to shorter riders get a lot of the same benefits with 650bs. Nice, cush wide tires without putting you into outerspace. That is why I am going 650b. On Jul 19, 8:31 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tires for Sam Hillborne
After riding Pasela TG 37's (which I love) on my Hillborne for about six months, I would like something bigger for the occasional off road ride..(without fenders). I called Riv HQ a couple months ago and asked about the Supreme 50's bc the Riv website says they actually measure around 45mm on a Synergy rim. The Hillborne is rated to take 44mm max without Fenders. I can't remember who I spoke with, but they tested a set of 50's on a Green 56 Hillborne frame, like mine..and said they barely fit...but they do indeed fit, just a tiny bit of clearance. FWIW, when I was at Rivendell last August, Kevin told me that the orange Hillbornes have just a bit more tire clearance than the Green Hillbornes. I think he said the chainstays are rolled in a little more. I've been curious if the Dureme 50's also measure an actual 45mm like the Supreme's...(on a 22mm rim), but I can't find that data anywhere. Still I think I'm going to order a pair of Supreme 50's and hope for the best. I'm thinking of using my budget deore wheelset as the offroad one and keep the big tires on permanently, as I've recently had a front dynamo wheel built. Now I just need to find a way to make a rear 7 speed Phil FW wheel happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
Are you saying that you are considering doing a 650B conversion on an existing bike? If so, your biggest thing might be comparing your resulting range of BB heights and figure out if any of them are too high or too low. The radius of a wheel with 700x60 Big apples will be 371mm nominally. The radius of a 650B Pari-moto (for example) will be 330mm. The difference between those two is 1.6 inches. So your standover would be 1.6 inches different, your BB height would be 1.6 inches different. I'd imagine that one of those two would be too high, or the other too low, or maybe even both. On Jul 19, 6:31 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tires for Sam Hillborne
I have ridden limestone with 32mm Panaracer RiBMos and had absolutely no complaints. The ride was smooth but still fast, and the 32mm tires felt like a perfect match for that terrain; even on the few loose spots and bumpy wash-outs. The person I was ridding with was using 28mm Coninental Gatorskins and he also seemed to think that they were a very good fit (it is important to note that he is also a triathelete and roadie who frequently rides bikes with ~23mm tires so 28mm to him is fat). Contrary to that, I know many people who have ridden the same trail with ~2.1 mountain tires and also have no complaints, and think that the hard-packed limestone is very forgiving and enjoyable for almost any type of tire with a conservative tread 28mm. I think that with limestone, a lot of the cush you are seeking comes from the trail itself as well as the tire. On Jul 19, 8:49 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Been contemplating tires again on my Hillborne. About a week and a half ago, pulled the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x40 off and went with the positively skinny Panaracer Pasela TG 700x35. Now, while these tires seem heavier than the Schwalbe, paradoxically the bike seems faster. However, part of me is going why not shove in the biggest tire the bike can take with fenders? Then I could slightly lower the pressure and go for more cush. Incidently, next weekend will be riding on a limestone rail/trail. Something worth considering. Maybe the 35s are too skinny for that type of adventure? Opinions? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
I think that the alternative makes sense for a 559 wheels conversion but hardly for a 622 conversion; for one thing, it is a rare 700c frame that will accept 50 mm, let alone 60 mm tires. The value of the alternative for a 559 wheel-designed frame is that 650B allows you to run narrower, lighter tires while preserving the overall, 26 diameter of the wheel that, because the frame is designed for it, will best preserve the frame's designed handling. 559 frames with 24 actual (559X1) tires handle horribly; Paselas (559X25) are better but not the best; it isn't until you start getting to a width of 40 mm or so that the frame has the chance to exhibit its best handling. Upshot: if you are speaking of a 700c frame, forget Big Apples, unless it's a 29er frame. If a 26er frame, the BAs will roll nicely, handling will be fine, and you can take on any surface that is not wet. If you want lighter, faster tires, go for 650B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] snotty responce
What provoked this? Whatever, please say on list. Relax, take 10 deeep breaths, and drink 4 oz of good bourbon. [G]nat's ass is good, very, very good! Patrick old, slow and philosophical Moore On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:37 PM, donald compton dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: seriously, i could give nat's ass, but the response to my ride in the healdsburg from ? regarding my typing skills is B.S.. i am a retired real estate developer with an economics degree from cal. your friend should think a little before he tries to embolden his education stasis. i really enjoy my riv's and grant and the guys and gals at riv, but some of the riv riders are just too much. the reality is that i don't race, but i will never ride with many of the riv folks. but, i don't get a big charge of making fun of them. and, believe me, riv owners are an easy target. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood, or CK worth it.
As for, non garish headsets, Ive got Hatta Swan headsets on 2 of my bikes the only marking if I recall correctly is a tiny NJS symbol, a little spendy, in the same price range as Chris King, yet beautiful, and as of yet, 2 years on my Maldoror, problem free. We'll see if it holds up as well as my 15 year old CK head set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7649...@n02/4645660599/in/set-72157622117479721/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/7649...@n02/3887850202/in/set-72157622117479721/ Cheers From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:48:51 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it. Chris King is a bit garish for a Betty Foy. Sotto Voce CK headsets do not have that visible a logo. Same with the Ti if you can afford it. On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a few upgrade ideas: Pedals - on a long ride, a nice, smooth pair of pedals with comfortable clips and straps (if you use them) are a true luxury. Check out the Grip Kings, White Industries Urban Pedals, Soma double- toe straps and/or the VO leather-clap toe clips. Rectangular cage pedals are ok, but can dig into your sole (and maybe your soul) after a while. Brake Levers - If you are using drop bars, go for the Shimano Tiagras. They are worth it. If using Albatross bars (do choose the Albatross over the Dove), there aren't may upgrade options but the Paul levers for Cantis are nice. Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs. Bottom Bracket - you could go for a Phil but I'd suggest putting the money towards other things first. The $40 BB will last plenty long. Headset - There aren't too many nice looking, silver upgrades available in 1. Chris King is a bit garish for a Betty Foy. Cane Creek is a little more subdued but still has logos. Campy Record might be a good choice but worth $100? Hmm... that will start another long discussion. Brake pads - Request salmon brake pads. They are a luxury and are worth the few extra bucks. Racks - The Nitto Mark's rack is so nice on a Betty Foy. The Nitto full racks are beautiful though pricey. On Jul 19, 1:11 am, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: So for those of you who are using IRD freewheels with your PW hubs, what are your thoughts on the QC issues that IRD has had. The folks at Rivendell seem to think the problems are over but reading various online forums, I am not so sure. Keely On Jul 18, 10:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. philip 97128 On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] S24O: tent or no tent?
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I mostly agree with Rene. I have used a Hennessey hammock for extended backpacking trips. It is very comfortable, but if the temperature drops below 35 degrees, it is difficult to stay warm in a hammock AND keep the weight down at the same time. Hennessey hammock has an underquilt that packs away super light and small. The whole set up is pricey, but it makes the hennessey a pretty attractive option if you're willing to spend the money. But even with a light pad, I've slept in the Hennessey in freezing weather and done ok. When it stays warm all night (over 50F), nothing beats a hammock in my opinion. Btw: some people have had issues learning a quick and easy way to deploy the Hennessey hammock. I camped with Alex Wetmore about a month ago and he's got the system dialed in (big surprise there). He solves the knot and hammock centering/leveling issue with a simple hardware upgrade: http://tinyurl.com/265kyhf And he solves the packing/unpacking with a quilt issue by stuffing the whole thing in tubes of light fabric, so he can tie off to the trees while the hammock is still stuffed in an intestine-looking tube. It literally takes him under 5 minutes to get his hammock set up. I only use bivvy for cold camping. If it's more than 45F or so at night, a bivvy just melts me. But for early-season S24O or winter camping where night time temps can fall below freezing, a bivvy is a great super light solution. When it's raining, I'll bring along the fly from my Hennessey: http://tinyurl.com/2fa8bvl Another good option for hot summer with bugs is a bug tent: http://www.rei.com/product/71 It's 1.5 lbs and about $50. I don't ever haul tents around anymore. Though I probably would if I camped at campgrounds where other people were camping close by. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 Narrow Brown
FS: Brooks B17 Narrow Brown I bought this thinking it might like my butt more than the standard width B17. But standard still works best for me. This is the rich brown color, not honey. Mounted in post, ridden less than 5 miles. Wiped off with Proofhide. With original packaging box and innards. $95 shipped. Paypal via the personal tab preferred. Eddie Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Narrow Brown
nice photo here, just in case you need a viewing: http://aebike.com/product/brooks-b17-narrow-antique-brown-top-black-rails-sku-sa1269-qc30.htm On Jul 19, 11:47 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: FS: Brooks B17 Narrow Brown I bought this thinking it might like my butt more than the standard width B17. But standard still works best for me. This is the rich brown color, not honey. Mounted in post, ridden less than 5 miles. Wiped off with Proofhide. With original packaging box and innards. $95 shipped. Paypal via the personal tab preferred. Eddie Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I recently picked up a few Shimano free-wheels from my LBS (for my Rivendells) at amazingly low prices. We'll see how they do. I've not had any problems with IRD free wheels, the Sun-Race free wheels I used a while back wore gear teeth quite quickly. Angus On Jul 19, 12:11 am, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: So for those of you who are using IRD freewheels with your PW hubs, what are your thoughts on the QC issues that IRD has had. The folks at Rivendell seem to think the problems are over but reading various online forums, I am not so sure. Keely On Jul 18, 10:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. philip 97128 On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tires for Sam Hillborne
I started with Schwalbe 40mm Smart Sams on my Sam ,a kinda cross tire with knobs, fab in the dirt but slooow on long paved sections. I switched to a 35mm Pasela's, faster on the road and just OK in the dirt. On the Smart Sams I could go pretty fast thru downhill dirt corners, not so on the Paselas. Then I picked up the 38mm Schwalbe Marathon Racer's, much lower rolling resistance (faster) on pavement then the Pasela, and about the same in the dirt. I'm pretty happy with the Racer...except that goathead day, when I ended up with 20 or so on the back and close to that on the front. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4568075881/in/set-72157623110722902/ Lotsa choices...you have to pick something that works for your riding skills and terrain ~Mike~ On Jul 19, 11:13 am, jlvota jlv...@ilstu.edu wrote: I have ridden limestone with 32mm Panaracer RiBMos and had absolutely no complaints. The ride was smooth but still fast, and the 32mm tires felt like a perfect match for that terrain; even on the few loose spots and bumpy wash-outs. The person I was ridding with was using 28mm Coninental Gatorskins and he also seemed to think that they were a very good fit (it is important to note that he is also a triathelete and roadie who frequently rides bikes with ~23mm tires so 28mm to him is fat). Contrary to that, I know many people who have ridden the same trail with ~2.1 mountain tires and also have no complaints, and think that the hard-packed limestone is very forgiving and enjoyable for almost any type of tire with a conservative tread 28mm. I think that with limestone, a lot of the cush you are seeking comes from the trail itself as well as the tire. On Jul 19, 8:49 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Been contemplating tires again on my Hillborne. About a week and a half ago, pulled the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x40 off and went with the positively skinny Panaracer Pasela TG 700x35. Now, while these tires seem heavier than the Schwalbe, paradoxically the bike seems faster. However, part of me is going why not shove in the biggest tire the bike can take with fenders? Then I could slightly lower the pressure and go for more cush. Incidently, next weekend will be riding on a limestone rail/trail. Something worth considering. Maybe the 35s are too skinny for that type of adventure? Opinions? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I don't know. I'll tell you in 20,000 miles when mine wears out ;-) BykMor On Jul 18, 11:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. philip 97128 On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
The problem with the hammock is that you have to have trees or some man made structures to attach it to that are in the right position. I find this more challenging in California, even in the Sierras as it limits my campsite choices. I do enjoy a nice afternoon nap in one, and have taken a lightweight net one just for that. I use a Marmot Eos 1 person tent that has a mesh top under the fly and find it very versatile and easy to work with. It weighs about 3 lbs. ~Mike~ On Jul 19, 11:44 am, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I mostly agree with Rene. I have used a Hennessey hammock for extended backpacking trips. It is very comfortable, but if the temperature drops below 35 degrees, it is difficult to stay warm in a hammock AND keep the weight down at the same time. Hennessey hammock has an underquilt that packs away super light and small. The whole set up is pricey, but it makes the hennessey a pretty attractive option if you're willing to spend the money. But even with a light pad, I've slept in the Hennessey in freezing weather and done ok. When it stays warm all night (over 50F), nothing beats a hammock in my opinion. Btw: some people have had issues learning a quick and easy way to deploy the Hennessey hammock. I camped with Alex Wetmore about a month ago and he's got the system dialed in (big surprise there). He solves the knot and hammock centering/leveling issue with a simple hardware upgrade:http://tinyurl.com/265kyhf And he solves the packing/unpacking with a quilt issue by stuffing the whole thing in tubes of light fabric, so he can tie off to the trees while the hammock is still stuffed in an intestine-looking tube. It literally takes him under 5 minutes to get his hammock set up. I only use bivvy for cold camping. If it's more than 45F or so at night, a bivvy just melts me. But for early-season S24O or winter camping where night time temps can fall below freezing, a bivvy is a great super light solution. When it's raining, I'll bring along the fly from my Hennessey:http://tinyurl.com/2fa8bvl Another good option for hot summer with bugs is a bug tent:http://www.rei.com/product/71 It's 1.5 lbs and about $50. I don't ever haul tents around anymore. Though I probably would if I camped at campgrounds where other people were camping close by. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
I'll be on an S24O on Mt Diablo this weekend. I have a nice bivy sack, so could go that route. I also thought about just bringing the footprint poles and rainfly without the tent to make a shelter, but then the tent without the rainfly might be better ventilation, so since it's under 40 miles each way regardless, I'm just gonna bring the thing and decide on setup when I'm there. On Jul 19, 1:10 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The problem with the hammock is that you have to have trees or some man made structures to attach it to that are in the right position. I find this more challenging in California, even in the Sierras as it limits my campsite choices. I do enjoy a nice afternoon nap in one, and have taken a lightweight net one just for that. I use a Marmot Eos 1 person tent that has a mesh top under the fly and find it very versatile and easy to work with. It weighs about 3 lbs. ~Mike~ On Jul 19, 11:44 am, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I mostly agree with Rene. I have used a Hennessey hammock for extended backpacking trips. It is very comfortable, but if the temperature drops below 35 degrees, it is difficult to stay warm in a hammock AND keep the weight down at the same time. Hennessey hammock has an underquilt that packs away super light and small. The whole set up is pricey, but it makes the hennessey a pretty attractive option if you're willing to spend the money. But even with a light pad, I've slept in the Hennessey in freezing weather and done ok. When it stays warm all night (over 50F), nothing beats a hammock in my opinion. Btw: some people have had issues learning a quick and easy way to deploy the Hennessey hammock. I camped with Alex Wetmore about a month ago and he's got the system dialed in (big surprise there). He solves the knot and hammock centering/leveling issue with a simple hardware upgrade:http://tinyurl.com/265kyhf And he solves the packing/unpacking with a quilt issue by stuffing the whole thing in tubes of light fabric, so he can tie off to the trees while the hammock is still stuffed in an intestine-looking tube. It literally takes him under 5 minutes to get his hammock set up. I only use bivvy for cold camping. If it's more than 45F or so at night, a bivvy just melts me. But for early-season S24O or winter camping where night time temps can fall below freezing, a bivvy is a great super light solution. When it's raining, I'll bring along the fly from my Hennessey:http://tinyurl.com/2fa8bvl Another good option for hot summer with bugs is a bug tent:http://www.rei.com/product/71 It's 1.5 lbs and about $50. I don't ever haul tents around anymore. Though I probably would if I camped at campgrounds where other people were camping close by. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
I ran 559 big apples (50mm width) on my bleriot after running 650b for over a year, and I really enjoyed the ride. At about 50 psi the apples are soft but quick and I really dug the all black look. colin cummings amarillo, tx On Jul 19, 8:31 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] For Sale: Almost new condition - 2009 Fuji Touring Bicycle, size 58
For Sale: Almost new condition - 2009 Fuji Touring Bicycle, size 58 Specs are as listed on Fuji website: http://2009.fujibikes.com/Specialty/Touring/Touring.aspx Photo: http://picasaweb.google.com/107231724174916923201/Fuji# I have changed out just a few parts. The original wheels were really heavy, so the bike has brand new set of Shimano RS10 wheels with black spokes, black mid-rims, silver braking surfaces and silver nipples. And a brand new pair of Vittoria Rubino Pro 700x28 folding clincher tires. Otherwise the bike is stock and completely ready to ride after you add in your pedals. This has really nicely relaxed geometry along the lines of a Rivendell, but without the artist touch. Good all around city bike or good enough for club rides and probably light touring. Over $1000 new. $700 picked up in Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] snotty responce
I think that may have already occurred. Bill Kentucky (The birthplace of both good and bad bourbon) In a message dated 7/19/2010 2:34:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: and drink 4 oz of good bourbon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Just a dissenting voice here... you *can* use 8-speed ultegra indexing shifters with a 7-speed IRD freewheel with perfectly satisfactory results. I'm sure the silver shifters are great; I have some I intend to set up to see what they're like. But the choice of friction versus ultegra 8-speed indexing is truly independent of whether you choose a cassette hub or a Phil freewheel hub for a IRD 7-speed freewheel. You can use either shifters with either a Shimano-compatible 8-speed cassette or a Phil freewheel 7- speed IRD freewheel setup. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a few upgrade ideas: Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Howdy. It is probably a bit anti-RBW, but I would say if you have any concerns about freewheels then skip the freewheel Phils. If you plan on indexing, or think you might ever want it, skip the freewheel Phils. PW seems like a great company, but among reputable brands any rear hub given reasonable care will be pretty much trouble free IMHO. Doug P.S. To me, the whole dishless rear wheel thing seems like a great idea that doesn't matter much in real life. I am well over 200lbs., don't use particularly stout/overbuilt rear wheels and have never had an issue that I would attribute to dish. Quality components and quality construction seem to make it pretty much a non-issue... On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.netwrote: Thanks for all the replies.The PW 'Rivy' hubs probably would not break the bank while the PW cassette hubs would. But I was a little unsure about the freewheel but it sounds like maybe that should not be so much of a concern. Anything else you would recommend upgrading?? On Jul 17, 8:30 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benefits of added strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels hit a sweet spot for me. Plus they look really cool Rob On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been ogling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimidated by the cost but am intrigued with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Can the the current ultregras be switched to 7sp or will there be an extra click? On Jul 19, 5:57 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Just a dissenting voice here... you *can* use 8-speed ultegra indexing shifters with a 7-speed IRD freewheel with perfectly satisfactory results. I'm sure the silver shifters are great; I have some I intend to set up to see what they're like. But the choice of friction versus ultegra 8-speed indexing is truly independent of whether you choose a cassette hub or a Phil freewheel hub for a IRD 7-speed freewheel. You can use either shifters with either a Shimano-compatible 8-speed cassette or a Phil freewheel 7- speed IRD freewheel setup. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a few upgrade ideas: Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
you never get to the extra click if the limit screws are properly set. The IRD freewheel cogs have moders 9/8 speed spacing and will work with many modern shimano indexing systems. When the limit screws are set, you will only get the required throw out of the shift lever. Likewise, the silver shifters work fine on my 9spd cassete, yet I do not live in fear of them sending my 5 spd setup into the spokes - Rob On Jul 19, 4:09 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Can the the current ultregras be switched to 7sp or will there be an extra click? On Jul 19, 5:57 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Just a dissenting voice here... you *can* use 8-speed ultegra indexing shifters with a 7-speed IRD freewheel with perfectly satisfactory results. I'm sure the silver shifters are great; I have some I intend to set up to see what they're like. But the choice of friction versus ultegra 8-speed indexing is truly independent of whether you choose a cassette hub or a Phil freewheel hub for a IRD 7-speed freewheel. You can use either shifters with either a Shimano-compatible 8-speed cassette or a Phil freewheel 7- speed IRD freewheel setup. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a few upgrade ideas: Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent? s24o too!
must be that time of year... I'm doing an s24o this weekend too. From Moorpark to the coast and then camping at Carpinteria State Beach. And of course a visit to the Island Brewing Co nearby. ~Mike~ On Jul 19, 1:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be on an S24O on Mt Diablo this weekend. I have a nice bivy sack, so could go that route. I also thought about just bringing the footprint poles and rainfly without the tent to make a shelter, but then the tent without the rainfly might be better ventilation, so since it's under 40 miles each way regardless, I'm just gonna bring the thing and decide on setup when I'm there. On Jul 19, 1:10 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The problem with the hammock is that you have to have trees or some man made structures to attach it to that are in the right position. I find this more challenging in California, even in the Sierras as it limits my campsite choices. I do enjoy a nice afternoon nap in one, and have taken a lightweight net one just for that. I use a Marmot Eos 1 person tent that has a mesh top under the fly and find it very versatile and easy to work with. It weighs about 3 lbs. ~Mike~ On Jul 19, 11:44 am, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I mostly agree with Rene. I have used a Hennessey hammock for extended backpacking trips. It is very comfortable, but if the temperature drops below 35 degrees, it is difficult to stay warm in a hammock AND keep the weight down at the same time. Hennessey hammock has an underquilt that packs away super light and small. The whole set up is pricey, but it makes the hennessey a pretty attractive option if you're willing to spend the money. But even with a light pad, I've slept in the Hennessey in freezing weather and done ok. When it stays warm all night (over 50F), nothing beats a hammock in my opinion. Btw: some people have had issues learning a quick and easy way to deploy the Hennessey hammock. I camped with Alex Wetmore about a month ago and he's got the system dialed in (big surprise there). He solves the knot and hammock centering/leveling issue with a simple hardware upgrade:http://tinyurl.com/265kyhf And he solves the packing/unpacking with a quilt issue by stuffing the whole thing in tubes of light fabric, so he can tie off to the trees while the hammock is still stuffed in an intestine-looking tube. It literally takes him under 5 minutes to get his hammock set up. I only use bivvy for cold camping. If it's more than 45F or so at night, a bivvy just melts me. But for early-season S24O or winter camping where night time temps can fall below freezing, a bivvy is a great super light solution. When it's raining, I'll bring along the fly from my Hennessey:http://tinyurl.com/2fa8bvl Another good option for hot summer with bugs is a bug tent:http://www.rei.com/product/71 It's 1.5 lbs and about $50. I don't ever haul tents around anymore. Though I probably would if I camped at campgrounds where other people were camping close by. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] La Ruta Loca / Rough Riders Rally reports?
Did anyone ride either of these? How about a ride report? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS Phil Wood Rear Hub plus other wheels
Selling a Brand New 135mm Phil Wood rear cassette 136mm hub. Never been laced. $295. Also selling a set of barely used XT (made in Japan) 700c wheels with Mach 240 rims. They were used less than 50 miles. $125 for the front and rear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
On my setup with an XT low-normal (Rapid Rise) derailer with an IRD 7- spd freewheel on a PW hub, I use the appropriate limit screw to prevent the derailer from being moved past the outer cog. Theoretically, I guess, one could get the extra click by straining hard on the shifter and either stretching the cable or mangling the derailer mechanical. But in practice, the derailer and cable maintain their structure even with vigorous use and one doesn't get the extra click. I guess with a top-normal (traditional) derailer the limit screw controlling the inward movement would be involved. I can't speak to this working well on non-IRD 7-speed freewheel hubs. And I would expect 6-speed IRD freewheel hubs (5.3mm spacing) to work poorly. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 19, 6:09 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Can the the current ultregras be switched to 7sp or will there be an extra click? On Jul 19, 5:57 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Just a dissenting voice here... you *can* use 8-speed ultegra indexing shifters with a 7-speed IRD freewheel with perfectly satisfactory results. I'm sure the silver shifters are great; I have some I intend to set up to see what they're like. But the choice of friction versus ultegra 8-speed indexing is truly independent of whether you choose a cassette hub or a Phil freewheel hub for a IRD 7-speed freewheel. You can use either shifters with either a Shimano-compatible 8-speed cassette or a Phil freewheel 7- speed IRD freewheel setup. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a few upgrade ideas: Shifters - definitely use the Silvers. If you must index, the Shimano Ultegras. If you must index, then you'll really want to get a Cassette hub as you will need an 8 speed cassette. So, this is a key descision relative to your choice of hubs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
I have hung my Hennessey from a granite face on several occasions in the Sierra. This link shows one such hang, and also shows the underquilt. No tarp due to typical summer Sierra weather. Just bug screen. Here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581...@n03/sets/72157624415970717/ From: Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 1:10:29 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent? The problem with the hammock is that you have to have trees or some man made structures to attach it to that are in the right position. I find this more challenging in California, even in the Sierras as it limits my campsite choices. I do enjoy a nice afternoon nap in one, and have taken a lightweight net one just for that. I use a Marmot Eos 1 person tent that has a mesh top under the fly and find it very versatile and easy to work with. It weighs about 3 lbs. ~Mike~ On Jul 19, 11:44 am, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I mostly agree with Rene. I have used a Hennessey hammock for extended backpacking trips. It is very comfortable, but if the temperature drops below 35 degrees, it is difficult to stay warm in a hammock AND keep the weight down at the same time. Hennessey hammock has an underquilt that packs away super light and small. The whole set up is pricey, but it makes the hennessey a pretty attractive option if you're willing to spend the money. But even with a light pad, I've slept in the Hennessey in freezing weather and done ok. When it stays warm all night (over 50F), nothing beats a hammock in my opinion. Btw: some people have had issues learning a quick and easy way to deploy the Hennessey hammock. I camped with Alex Wetmore about a month ago and he's got the system dialed in (big surprise there). He solves the knot and hammock centering/leveling issue with a simple hardware upgrade:http://tinyurl.com/265kyhf And he solves the packing/unpacking with a quilt issue by stuffing the whole thing in tubes of light fabric, so he can tie off to the trees while the hammock is still stuffed in an intestine-looking tube. It literally takes him under 5 minutes to get his hammock set up. I only use bivvy for cold camping. If it's more than 45F or so at night, a bivvy just melts me. But for early-season S24O or winter camping where night time temps can fall below freezing, a bivvy is a great super light solution. When it's raining, I'll bring along the fly from my Hennessey:http://tinyurl.com/2fa8bvl Another good option for hot summer with bugs is a bug tent:http://www.rei.com/product/71 It's 1.5 lbs and about $50. I don't ever haul tents around anymore. Though I probably would if I camped at campgrounds where other people were camping close by. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
Go with a bivy sack. OR (Outdoor Research) has one that's 2lbs and will fit in a Carradice. Goretex with a mosquito net at the head end. On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
I'm actually at my campsite--Hoodview Campground at Timothy Lake which has a great view of Mt Hood. The weather is beautiful and I can't wait until it's dark so I can take in the stars. I brought my whole tent but have not set up the rainfly. I've made dinner and enjoyed a nice cup of Starbuck's Viva instant coffee. This was my first big ride in weeks and I'm cooked. It seems criminal to be posting from a camsite so I'll sign off and read my Jack Turner book and wait for the stars. Pictures tomorrow. --mike On Jul 19, 7:52 pm, RayO lochm...@msn.com wrote: Go with a bivy sack. OR (Outdoor Research) has one that's 2lbs and will fit in a Carradice. Goretex with a mosquito net at the head end. On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b vs. Big Apples
so the decision would be to either convert a current frame to 650b, or buy a 29er for the BAs. my understanding is that the benefits of both 650b and BAs is they're soft but quick. I guess what I'm wondering is if I want a Big Apple-ish smooth ride quality, is a 650b conversion gonna give it to me, or should I go all the way and get a 29er frame? On Jul 19, 3:35 pm, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: I ran 559 big apples (50mm width) on my bleriot after running 650b for over a year, and I really enjoyed the ride. At about 50 psi the apples are soft but quick and I really dug the all black look. colin cummings amarillo, tx On Jul 19, 8:31 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b tires feel a little quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] LX front and rear derailleurs New
Selling a set of LX front and rear derailleurs new, never installed. The rear is a SGS long cage T661 and the front is a m661 clamp on top swing for a 28.6 or 34.9. Both for $65 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
The HD is a good example. If I had not Riv'd out my Handsome Devil I think I could have come in for a sub $1000 price but Dammit between this group and CycloFiend (Damn You Jim!) I wanted a cool steel bike ;-) On Jul 18, 11:32 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: what about the Handsome Devil? that could prob be built up for sub-$1K pretty easily. On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: Those are both hi-tensile very low quality steel. I can't imagine Rivendell doing anything like that even for a budget bike. The Rivendell name still needs to go on it. Neither is anywhere near what Surly or VO has. Even the lower level Bridgestones back in the day were CrMo. I was looking for steel that might be something Grant would possibly use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
Or you could get one of these Sub $500 beauties, not lugged of course but cromo, I would, however, be suspicious of the assembly quality http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/galaxy.htm On Jul 19, 10:02 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: The HD is a good example. If I had not Riv'd out my Handsome Devil I think I could have come in for a sub $1000 price but Dammit between this group and CycloFiend (Damn You Jim!) I wanted a cool steel bike ;-) On Jul 18, 11:32 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: what about the Handsome Devil? that could prob be built up for sub-$1K pretty easily. On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: Those are both hi-tensile very low quality steel. I can't imagine Rivendell doing anything like that even for a budget bike. The Rivendell name still needs to go on it. Neither is anywhere near what Surly or VO has. Even the lower level Bridgestones back in the day were CrMo. I was looking for steel that might be something Grant would possibly use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Shimano 16T freewheel, free, but you pay postage
Found my bags of freewheel, not doing SS anymore, so here it is for those who can use it. Free but you pay postage, best guess will cost you 3 to 5 ship to US. Send me a email offlist please. Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
