Re: [RBW] Re: Mickelson Trail Trek?
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 21:38 -0700, Tony wrote: Come to the Black Hills and enjoy the Mickelson. (lots of new single track mountain biking in the hills too!) But don't leave it too long. We were there during the Great Financial Meltdown in 08, which was just about now (had to miss the club century to make the trip). We had beautiful weather, in the 40s in the morning and the high 80s during the day, but people told us this was far from typical, and this late in the season the weather wasn't often this nice. Two or three weeks after we came home, that part of SD was under four feet of snow and the Governor had declared a state of emergency. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
On Sep 13, 5:21 pm, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote: ** My Dura-Ace brake levers are incredibly squishy** Thanks, Adam You really need to pursue this, either the levers don't have the correct pull, or there is drag in the cabling. Or a combo of both. If the cable is the culprit and has any drag in it, it's easy enough to tell just by feel. If you take the cable off of the brake, hold it down hard and use the brake lever, you should feel no friction, it should slide effortlessly. With the cable attached it should have a nice snappy rebound affect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new Rodeo
I have used SIS, barcons and down tube shifters and each has its advantages. SIS is fast and keeps your hands right on the brakes; but are a pain when they are out of whack, are expensive and have the shortest life expectancy of any system. I don't care for the ergonomics of pushing with my fingertips. Barcons are much slower than SIS but have better ergonomics and otherwise offer similar control at a much more affordable price than SIS. BEs are my favorite for commuting or any time I'm in traffic - bike or car traffic. DT shifters do require learning to reach down to shift, but it's not much different than pulling out a water bottle. Your hand memorizes the location and you want to keep your eyes up the road. DT shifters are even faster than SIS. They let you shift front and rear with the same hand, either in quick succession or even simultaneously if you want to, and they can run across the length of the cassette much faster than SIS. Vt, where I live, has lots of rolling terrain which rewards rapid double shifts, so I much prefer DT friction shifters, and that's what's on my Ram. I do miss a shift occassionally, but I simply see that as a learning experience. BTW, if you want to teach someone how to shift, I have found that BE is easier to master than SIS. The shifters always move in the same direction as the chain, which reinforces the learning and makes it easier to visualize what's happening. If you go to a CD, you will get improved shifting from a FD with a shorter cage, which allows it to be mounted closer to the ring, without hitting the chainstay, as the 105 will on most bikes. I highly recommend the new Campy. There is no compelling reason to change the RD, but if you have something with a very long cage you will get faster, smoother shifting from one with a shorter cage. Michael On Sep 13, 5:35 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Hey Johnny, Downtube shifters are more classic than barcons and lighter too. A triple really isn't classic, and the bottom bracket and cranks are both heavier than a traditional double or compact double. Regards, Doug P.S. No slight intended, but it seems to me like a lot of Roadeos are being built up pretty much the way I would think most AHHs get built up rather than as any lighter than average go-fasties... I definitely wanted to be more on the racier end but with keeping with some classic looks. I never thought about it but DT shifters might be a fantastic idea. They are very light and more classic than putting on brifters. (I didn't want to do barcons). 100% going to do a compact double. I'm not sure what to do with the FD and RD. But DT shifters??? You have me leaning this way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
Moot point, right? I mean, I thought the Roadeo didn't have the proper bosses for downtube shifters. Jon: Base Roadeo does not have DT bosses. After originally saying the DT boss option would not be offered, Riv had a change of heart and will accommodate DT boss requests. On Sep 13, 11:03 pm, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Moot point, right? I mean, I thought the Roadeo didn't have the proper bosses for downtube shifters. It looks to me like all that¹s there are cable guides. Like the Blériot. I own a Blériot, and I consider the lack of downtube shifter bosses its single fault. -- Jon Not An Expert Grant, who should be drawing bobcats in Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new Rodeo
They let you shift front and rear with the same hand, either in quick succession or even simultaneously if you want to, and they can run across the length of the cassette much faster than SIS. There is a learning curve, but if you get it down pat, works wonderfully. This is exactly why I have never strayed from DT shifters. Good post otherwise. None of the homer - my shift style is better than yours - just a good list of the plus and minus for each. On Sep 14, 7:27 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have used SIS, barcons and down tube shifters and each has its advantages. SIS is fast and keeps your hands right on the brakes; but are a pain when they are out of whack, are expensive and have the shortest life expectancy of any system. I don't care for the ergonomics of pushing with my fingertips. Barcons are much slower than SIS but have better ergonomics and otherwise offer similar control at a much more affordable price than SIS. BEs are my favorite for commuting or any time I'm in traffic - bike or car traffic. DT shifters do require learning to reach down to shift, but it's not much different than pulling out a water bottle. Your hand memorizes the location and you want to keep your eyes up the road. DT shifters are even faster than SIS. They let you shift front and rear with the same hand, either in quick succession or even simultaneously if you want to, and they can run across the length of the cassette much faster than SIS. Vt, where I live, has lots of rolling terrain which rewards rapid double shifts, so I much prefer DT friction shifters, and that's what's on my Ram. I do miss a shift occassionally, but I simply see that as a learning experience. BTW, if you want to teach someone how to shift, I have found that BE is easier to master than SIS. The shifters always move in the same direction as the chain, which reinforces the learning and makes it easier to visualize what's happening. If you go to a CD, you will get improved shifting from a FD with a shorter cage, which allows it to be mounted closer to the ring, without hitting the chainstay, as the 105 will on most bikes. I highly recommend the new Campy. There is no compelling reason to change the RD, but if you have something with a very long cage you will get faster, smoother shifting from one with a shorter cage. Michael On Sep 13, 5:35 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Hey Johnny, Downtube shifters are more classic than barcons and lighter too. A triple really isn't classic, and the bottom bracket and cranks are both heavier than a traditional double or compact double. Regards, Doug P.S. No slight intended, but it seems to me like a lot of Roadeos are being built up pretty much the way I would think most AHHs get built up rather than as any lighter than average go-fasties... I definitely wanted to be more on the racier end but with keeping with some classic looks. I never thought about it but DT shifters might be a fantastic idea. They are very light and more classic than putting on brifters. (I didn't want to do barcons). 100% going to do a compact double. I'm not sure what to do with the FD and RD. But DT shifters??? You have me leaning this way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
P.S. The Tektro/Silvers are on the flexy side due to their length, but should still give reasonable performance if set up right. I have been thinking about getting a Hilsen 650B frame but am worried about the Silver caliper flex. I definitely want to use Hetres on my 650B. With fenders seems only the long reach would work. Paul Racers are an option. Thing is the braze on version works so much better going with the center pulls is a let down. On Sep 13, 7:00 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Adam. I've gotta think plenty of Silver/Tektro calipers are in use with Shimano aero levers. I would suspect the cable housing. Are the ends cut cleanly and squared off, with a file if necessary? Are you using metal housing end caps where they fit or at least the plastic ones? I would recommend using some so-called compressionless housing, kind of a brake/derailleur hybrid. SRAM and Jagwire both make it, probably others do as well. Also, you want the pads reasonably close to the rims, I'd say 2-3mm clearance. HTH, Doug P.S. The Tektro/Silvers are on the flexy side due to their length, but should still give reasonable performance if set up right. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.comwrote: Wow, I'm not having much luck in the brake department with my new ride. I set up my Hilsen with Silver brakes and found that they simply wouldn't stop me - I could have both levers to the tape and still roll. So, I changed to Paul Racer's on the advice of my LBS and found that the situation really isn't much better. Here is where my thinking is at: * I'm seeing a lot of flex in the brakes themselves and at the cable hangers. The rear brake is worse than the front (as is usually the case) but I suspect the inline barrel adjuster and the rear cable hanger (light-weight aluminum one that hangs of the seat-post bolt) is flexing too much. * I've brought the yokes up pretty high - I can get them higher, but not much. So, I'm not certain this is the problem. * Brake-pads are the standard black Kool-Stops and I would have to assume they are not the problem * My Dura-Ace brake levers are incredibly squishy. This is one piece of the equation that is common to both setups (Silvers Racers). The Racer brakes are indeed short-pull so those road levers should be fine - but I've suspected them before. Another mechanic took a look at the brakes and road the bike today. He agreed that the brakes are massively under performing. He thought that a travel agent might help to pull more cable. He also wanted to re-cable since I cut the rear cable a little short. He wanted me to find out if Paul makes a stiffener that attaches to the calipers. Does anyone have any other ideas for me? I don't have another AHH to ride, so it is hard for me to know just how bad my brakes are. Keven at Rivendell didn't think the Racer's are much better than the Silvers for braking (and he has a pair on his Hilsen) and so he wondered what the other problem might be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new Rodeo
Unintended consequences: About a year ago, at the urging of three of the best cyclists in my club, I got a mirror that replaces one of my bar plugs on my drop bars. This was for all of the obvious reasons. What wasn’t obvious is that now I look down at the mirror every few seconds and my neck doesn’t hurt as much as it used to, because I’m moving my head more -- instead of the locked-on-the-road-ahead position for hours and hours. One of the unintended consequences of shifters that coax the hands away from their usual position on the brake hoods -- a change of position over hours and hours of riding. Bob “Likes to Move Around on the Bike” Cooper PS: Later today, I’m installing some brifters on a bike for myself. Go figure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
Adam- I'll throw in my 2 cents. Ideally, every bit of force you apply to the lever should be transmitted to the brake pad. Any part of your system that flexes is actually indicating a place where your efforts are being used to bend metal, and are not making it to the pads. (Cable or pivot friction and cable stretch are other places where you can be robbed without it being visible.) I'd replace the cable hanger first of all if it flexes that much. The brakes themselves may have some flex, but shouldn't result in a non-functional brake system. My Tektro 556's flex a lot, but can still stop me (240 lbs) on my Sam pretty well. If you suspect your levers - try this. Take an old brake cable (you'll trash it, so don't use your good one) and feed it through your lever like normal. Where it exits the lever housing, wrap it around a dowel so the cable is taut and the dowel is tight to the lever body. Get it as tight as possible - the idea is to have no play. Squeeze the lever. It should be rock solid. If it moves at all, something is wrong in the lever assembly. As others have said - re-cable the bike using a top quality cable and housing like Jagwire. This will eliminate bad cable or housing as a possible culprit. -Pete On Sep 13, 5:21 pm, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I'm not having much luck in the brake department with my new ride. I set up my Hilsen with Silver brakes and found that they simply wouldn't stop me - I could have both levers to the tape and still roll. So, I changed to Paul Racer's on the advice of my LBS and found that the situation really isn't much better. Here is where my thinking is at: * I'm seeing a lot of flex in the brakes themselves and at the cable hangers. The rear brake is worse than the front (as is usually the case) but I suspect the inline barrel adjuster and the rear cable hanger (light-weight aluminum one that hangs of the seat-post bolt) is flexing too much. * I've brought the yokes up pretty high - I can get them higher, but not much. So, I'm not certain this is the problem. * Brake-pads are the standard black Kool-Stops and I would have to assume they are not the problem * My Dura-Ace brake levers are incredibly squishy. This is one piece of the equation that is common to both setups (Silvers Racers). The Racer brakes are indeed short-pull so those road levers should be fine - but I've suspected them before. Another mechanic took a look at the brakes and road the bike today. He agreed that the brakes are massively under performing. He thought that a travel agent might help to pull more cable. He also wanted to re-cable since I cut the rear cable a little short. He wanted me to find out if Paul makes a stiffener that attaches to the calipers. Does anyone have any other ideas for me? I don't have another AHH to ride, so it is hard for me to know just how bad my brakes are. Keven at Rivendell didn't think the Racer's are much better than the Silvers for braking (and he has a pair on his Hilsen) and so he wondered what the other problem might be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:20 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Adam - As others said, I'd check that you have the correct housing. And, what the heck, the cables are correct, right? Sometimes I've seen mis-marked packages, or cables with undersized/oddly shaped ends that won't seat properly or drop in too far. I will add that high quality housing will sometimes make a huge difference. I used a kind of axially wound (instead of spiral wound) housing on the road BB7s on my Monocog (the housing looks like beefed up index system derailleur cable) and it made a huge difference: the rear would earlier squeeze to the bar with little result; afterward, the best rear braking I've had for any kind of brake with any kind of setup -- almost hydraulic disk in feel. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
I've been using the GoLite Utopia 2+ (less than 3 lbs). Please note it's more of a tarp than tent because it's single layer, not double layer AND there is no floor (additional option). -Robert On Sep 13, 4:33 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: What's your favorite two-person tent for bike camping? I'm looking for a tent that's somewhat light ( 5 lbs?), warm enough for most California spring/summer/fall nights, and sets up easily. -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Phil Wheelset lowered price
I listed this wheelset a few weeks back and have now lowered the price. Phil Wood 7 speed freewheel set. Both wheels are 32 hole laced to Velocity Dyad rims silver,130mm rear spacing. Purchased new from Bikeman of Maine back in the spring. Very low miles. $350.00 shipped domestic to lower 48. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote: * I've brought the yokes up pretty high - I can get them higher, but not much. So, I'm not certain this is the problem. This is the piece that strikes me from this whole thread. Having a somewhat higher yoke will give you more leverage at the rim, but it also increases lever travel (that's the geometric tradeoff that Sheldon describes). You might have it high enough that the levers can't pull enough cable (which would explain the travel agent recommendation). I'd get a new rear cable (since you cut yours short), and start with a very low straddle wire and see if that works - if so, adjust it upward to get an acceptable balance between cable pull and braking power. I'm surprised that the Silver sidepulls didn't work well though, which makes me suspect something's off about the levers. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: VO Retro and Moderniste cages
The Retros go for $18.50 and the Modernistes for $15, plus shipping. My prices: Retros $15 shipped or 2 for $25 shipped. Modernistes: $12 shipped each or two for $20 shipped or 3 for $30 shipped. As new. Photos here: http://www.velo-orange.com/waboandca.html -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
I have the Riv Silver's on my Riv Custom and they work great for the ~230 lbs weight of plus rider. I also have a bike with the Paul Racer braze-on's. For me, the Pauls are a bit better than the Silver's but not dramatically so. I've never really understood the 'Silver's are flexy' trains of thought. In both cases I'm using the Shimano aero levers that Riv sells. I'm guessing it isn't the brakes, maybe levers, more likely cable/ housing/installation. -JimD On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Bill Connell wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote: * I've brought the yokes up pretty high - I can get them higher, but not much. So, I'm not certain this is the problem. This is the piece that strikes me from this whole thread. Having a somewhat higher yoke will give you more leverage at the rim, but it also increases lever travel (that's the geometric tradeoff that Sheldon describes). You might have it high enough that the levers can't pull enough cable (which would explain the travel agent recommendation). I'd get a new rear cable (since you cut yours short), and start with a very low straddle wire and see if that works - if so, adjust it upward to get an acceptable balance between cable pull and braking power. I'm surprised that the Silver sidepulls didn't work well though, which makes me suspect something's off about the levers. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
One more for the Seedhouse SL2. Mostly because of its small pack size on the bike. That mattered a lot to me. I got it on sale at REI. The Tarp Tent stuff is pretty rad. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Sep 14, 7:10 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using the GoLite Utopia 2+ (less than 3 lbs). Please note it's more of a tarp than tent because it's single layer, not double layer AND there is no floor (additional option). -Robert On Sep 13, 4:33 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: What's your favorite two-person tent for bike camping? I'm looking for a tent that's somewhat light ( 5 lbs?), warm enough for most California spring/summer/fall nights, and sets up easily. -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My new Rodeo
MichaelH: good post, as Joel said. Good rundown of the pluses and minuses of each system. I'd been using bar end shifters (friction) on my main bike for years and when I built up my Rambouillet I decided to go back to DT shifters (friction still) with a compact double (42/26... very compact!). I LOVE the DT shifters. What did it for me is the shifting with one hand technique that Michael mentions. When riding with DT shifters 20+ years ago I didn't know that trick, but it's so obvious once someone tells you or you figure it out. Makes double shifts (for me that usually means 1 in front, 2 in back at the same time) so easy and fast. I'm using the Campy FD that Michael mentions (that Riv sells -- I assume that's what MH refers to) and it's like butter. Doing the double (front/back simultaneous) shift is no more work than just shifting the rear. This is with the Silver shifters if that matters. One point of terminology and maybe this has changed since I last paid attention, but I thought SIS stood for Shimano Index Shifting (whereas Suntour has Accushift) and so it just means indexed shifting (which can be w/ DT, bar end, or integrated shifters). But maybe now SIS is synonymous with brifters. Ah well, who knows. At any rate, good stuff. There's really no substitute for trying out the different options and seeing what feels best. But also no penalty for sticking with what you know you already like! Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:27, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have used SIS, barcons and down tube shifters and each has its advantages. SIS is fast and keeps your hands right on the brakes; but are a pain when they are out of whack, are expensive and have the shortest life expectancy of any system. I don't care for the ergonomics of pushing with my fingertips. Barcons are much slower than SIS but have better ergonomics and otherwise offer similar control at a much more affordable price than SIS. BEs are my favorite for commuting or any time I'm in traffic - bike or car traffic. DT shifters do require learning to reach down to shift, but it's not much different than pulling out a water bottle. Your hand memorizes the location and you want to keep your eyes up the road. DT shifters are even faster than SIS. They let you shift front and rear with the same hand, either in quick succession or even simultaneously if you want to, and they can run across the length of the cassette much faster than SIS. Vt, where I live, has lots of rolling terrain which rewards rapid double shifts, so I much prefer DT friction shifters, and that's what's on my Ram. I do miss a shift occassionally, but I simply see that as a learning experience. BTW, if you want to teach someone how to shift, I have found that BE is easier to master than SIS. The shifters always move in the same direction as the chain, which reinforces the learning and makes it easier to visualize what's happening. If you go to a CD, you will get improved shifting from a FD with a shorter cage, which allows it to be mounted closer to the ring, without hitting the chainstay, as the 105 will on most bikes. I highly recommend the new Campy. There is no compelling reason to change the RD, but if you have something with a very long cage you will get faster, smoother shifting from one with a shorter cage. Michael On Sep 13, 5:35 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Hey Johnny, Downtube shifters are more classic than barcons and lighter too. A triple really isn't classic, and the bottom bracket and cranks are both heavier than a traditional double or compact double. Regards, Doug P.S. No slight intended, but it seems to me like a lot of Roadeos are being built up pretty much the way I would think most AHHs get built up rather than as any lighter than average go-fasties... I definitely wanted to be more on the racier end but with keeping with some classic looks. I never thought about it but DT shifters might be a fantastic idea. They are very light and more classic than putting on brifters. (I didn't want to do barcons). 100% going to do a compact double. I'm not sure what to do with the FD and RD. But DT shifters??? You have me leaning this way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:18, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: One more for the Seedhouse SL2. Mostly because of its small pack size on the bike. That mattered a lot to me. I got it on sale at REI. The Tarp Tent stuff is pretty rad. Indeed, the Tarptents are very nice. I use a Contrail for solo bike camping and couldn't be happier. They are single layer, which may be a deal breaker for some. I think it's a fair trade off for the light weight and small packing size. The Contrail at least also has a dead simple and very fast set up. They have a nice variety of 2 person tents, too. (http://tarptent.com/products.html) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] VO cages all claimed; thanks to all who inquired. PAM
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[RBW] Re: double top tube working bike
Yeah, every time I travel to South America, I am reminded of the double-top-tube designs by RBW (AHH, etc.). Many look like the one in the original post (including push-rod brakes); many like this: http://bit.ly/9FvsPl (Flickr). On Sep 13, 2:35 pm, jlvota jlv...@ilstu.edu wrote: That guy's really using his head On Sep 11, 11:33 am, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote: [] image001.jpg 58KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell Custom
Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rivendell Custom
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Enjoy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Beautiful frame and a lovely color, i don't know how you can wait almost a year to build up that bike. Also: how cool is that Legolas decal on the workbench? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:00, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Stuart -- Do you carry a trekking pole on the bike to set this tent up? Or do you use another method? Hi Ray, good question. I was tripped up by that at first (I can't carry a trekking pole on my bike!) but it turns out there's an optional collapsible shock-corded pole you can get with it which I did. Tarptent says it weights 2oz. It rolls right up with the tent (as do the stakes) so makes a nice integrated package. A friend of mine got one of the two person Tarptents (can't recall which) but he hasn't had a chance to use it yet, or I could report on that model as well. Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA From: Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 8:41:57 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:18, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: One more for the Seedhouse SL2. Mostly because of its small pack size on the bike. That mattered a lot to me. I got it on sale at REI. The Tarp Tent stuff is pretty rad. Indeed, the Tarptents are very nice. I use a Contrail for solo bike camping and couldn't be happier. They are single layer, which may be a deal breaker for some. I think it's a fair trade off for the light weight and small packing size. The Contrail at least also has a dead simple and very fast set up. They have a nice variety of 2 person tents, too. (http://tarptent.com/products.html) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
I've been looking at Tarp Tents for my next tent for a long while, though haven't gotten around to picking one up. Cool to hear you've had good results with yours in this area Stewart. The Double Rainbow sleeps two and weighs 2 1/2 lbs. That could be my choice for S24Os (or longer) with my seven-year-old son. Henry Shires is super nice too, and very helpful. Seems like a very Rivendellish company. For for one person trips, the Tarp Tent Moment looks very cool. http://tarptent.com/moment.html 1 3/4 lbs and can be free-standing. (Although at 2 1/2 lbs, the Double Rainbow would be fine) For solo trips I'm also intrigued by hammocks, especially this one: http://warbonnetoutdoors.com/blackbirds.php Another small company making really high quality stuff, from what I've read. Rob in Seattle On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Stuart Fletcher wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:18, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: One more for the Seedhouse SL2. Mostly because of its small pack size on the bike. That mattered a lot to me. I got it on sale at REI. The Tarp Tent stuff is pretty rad. Indeed, the Tarptents are very nice. I use a Contrail for solo bike camping and couldn't be happier. They are single layer, which may be a deal breaker for some. I think it's a fair trade off for the light weight and small packing size. The Contrail at least also has a dead simple and very fast set up. They have a nice variety of 2 person tents, too. (http://tarptent.com/products.html) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
Ah yes, the B68... I was skeptical at first, but I love this seat. I commuted this morning on an old chrome Mongoose with a B68... it felt GREAT... In fact it's my favorite short-distance saddle. On longer rides it's a bit wide for my liking. I had a gorgeous brown Flyer Special which I could (and often did) stare at all day long. This is based on the B17, but even though it was sprung it wasn't nearly as comfortable as my standard B17. Perhaps the it was thicker leather? I don't know, I've toiled over this for years. Same goes for my B17 Special. It's awesome looking and still very comfortable, but not quite as plush as the good ol' honey B17... And I've been riding a standard B17 on my mountain bike now for years, and will NEVER go back. In fact I'll soon be heading out to Colorado for a few days of mountain biking... I will likely rent a bike, but regardless I'll take along a B17 for sure! BB On Sep 12, 3:28 am, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I also prefer the B17 over the Pro on bikes with handlebar on level or lower than the saddle. The Pro model seems to be stiffer perhaps not because it has thicker leather but because of its narrower design. I don't have a Swallow but I think the reason it is more pleasant on the butt is that it is longer than the Pro and B17. On B17s, I noticed that the standard model has a little more flex or bounce that I find more pleasant. But I cannot resist the allure of the bigger copper rivets on the champion special model. So I have both the standard and the champion special. But on bikes with handlebar which make you more upright riding, I like the aged special model B68. -- Rene -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:20 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom? I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is flatter than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to have that distinct hammock shape. The key differences, as far as I can tell, are that the Pro is a narrower at the back and is made of thicker leather. (I have one Pro that is at least 15 years old. I periodically mount it on a bike and use it for a few hundred miles, then take it off again, because I just can't get it to break in. I figure it's got at least 3000 miles on it at this point, plus several different (increasingly radical) attempts at softening it. It's still hard as a rock and looks/feels exactly like it did out of the box.) Overall, I just haven't had great success with Brooks no matter what I do, for exactly the reasons outlined by James: if I get the rear section level enough so that I'm not sliding onto the nose, the nose is angled so steeply up that it digs into me. Lowering the nose just causes the rear section to angle downward, sliding me back onto the nose. Arg. Even with a two-bolt post, there is no happy medium. For some reason, though, the Velo-Orange saddles don't do that to me, even though they have the hammock shape too. Go figure. It's just too bad the V/O saddles aren't quite as nicely put together as the Brooks... Noel Orange County, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: http://www.xo-1.org/2010_03_01_archive.html http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ny-s_0BbP2k/TCrhFcazt_I/B_o/GJETLa8A48E/s1600/DSC04537.JPG On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Moot point, right? I mean, I thought the Roadeo didn't have the proper bosses for downtube shifters. It looks to me like all thatąs there are cable guides. Like the Blériot. I own a Blériot, and I consider the lack of downtube shifter bosses its single fault. -- Jon Not An Expert Grant, who should be drawing bobcats in Austin, Texas Chris had those bosses added as an extra work item when he ordered the frame. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
Jeff, That looks great! Good luck holding out on that build. My custom is at Joe Bell's shop right now so it shouldn't be too much longer for me. Have fun, - Frank On Sep 14, 12:41 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
I also highly recommend the Black Diamond Megamid in the tarp category. It is HUGE and LIGHT. I have the option floor too. It is big enough that I bring my bike and trailer in the tent with me and it is totally comfortable-- it is that big. You can string it over a branch if you can find a suitable location or use a stick or collapsible pole. I have woken up with the occasional creature in the tent but nothing too serious (mostly squirrels) and that is part of the fun, right? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
Wait a mintute though ,we're talking about Silver Caliper brakes yes? If so, what's all the talk about canti geometry and yokes? The problem is not the brakes, it's either some drag in the line or the levers themselves. Calipers are calipers, if you squeeze them in your hand they should spring back when released, if not you got some bad calipers, buy I've never heard of such. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
Nice. So these are Nobilette built framesets? Doug On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:00 AM, frank_a fk...@aol.com wrote: Jeff, That looks great! Good luck holding out on that build. My custom is at Joe Bell's shop right now so it shouldn't be too much longer for me. Have fun, - Frank On Sep 14, 12:41 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike Shops in Santa Cruz
ABSOLUTELY!!! The Spokesman at 231 Cathcart, phone 831-429-6062; Great downtown location, and even better service. I cannot say enough good things about these people. I was in a jam, and they helped out... with top- knotch help! Wade Hall, Casey Devonshire, Luigi Puzzifero, Tim Tourkakis, Bruce McNab... and those were just the fellows that helped me personally! Wade would probably remember Christine with the challenged SEVEN. Tell him hi, and that I was thrilled to recommend him, teh shop, and everyone else. Christine On Sep 13, 11:19 am, stevew st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: Hi all, I am going to be riding the Surf City 600K brevet in Santa Cruz at the end of the month and was wondering if anyone had recommendations for bike shops in the area to check out. Riv content = I am riding my Rambouillet. Thanks! Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
Chris had those bosses added as an extra work item when he ordered the frame. Yeah if I decide to go that way I will need to have them added as well. I really think I am leaning that way. I was unsure about brifters but still wanted a fairly light build. This seems like a good solution. Typically would DT shifters and standard levers be lightweight like a brifter set? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
That's right. As I said about a year ago on the topic, I used to think I wanted a Herse. In the process of getting my girlfriend a Bleriot and reading through my run of the RR, I fell in love with Rivendell. Once I discovered that Nobilette was building the customs, it seemed I could have a sort of RH by way of RBW. Now obviously Nobillette builds RH's to different specs than Grants, but I'm sure I'll be more than satisfied with this frame. The only thing holding me back from building it up sooner is having to save up to go to France. Maybe I can manage to do both. Already, Jan's question is turning over in my mind: will it plane? Jeff On Sep 14, 1:08 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. So these are Nobilette built framesets? Doug On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:00 AM, frank_a fk...@aol.com wrote: Jeff, That looks great! Good luck holding out on that build. My custom is at Joe Bell's shop right now so it shouldn't be too much longer for me. Have fun, - Frank On Sep 14, 12:41 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
Silver or DurAce BE plus standard brake levers - Shimano, Cane Creek etc will be lighter than any brifter on the market - but not enough to influence a decision. Michael On Sep 14, 2:20 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Chris had those bosses added as an extra work item when he ordered the frame. Yeah if I decide to go that way I will need to have them added as well. I really think I am leaning that way. I was unsure about brifters but still wanted a fairly light build. This seems like a good solution. Typically would DT shifters and standard levers be lightweight like a brifter set? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 11:47 -0700, MichaelH wrote: Silver or DurAce BE plus standard brake levers - Shimano, Cane Creek etc will be lighter than any brifter on the market - but not enough to influence a decision. No, if you use bar end or downtube shifters plus regular brake levers, it's probably going to be because you prefer them, not because you are counting grams (although they do weigh less) or dollars (although they are cheaper). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rivendell Custom
I love that barffin blue... On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
Silver or DurAce BE plus standard brake levers - Shimano, Cane Creek etc will be lighter than any brifter on the market - but not enough to influence a decision. Michael I wanted something that wasn't brifters but was light. Which it sounds like this is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
No, if you use bar end or downtube shifters plus regular brake levers, it's probably going to be because you prefer them, not because you are counting grams (although they do weigh less) or dollars (although they are cheaper). From my understanding bar ends plus levers weighed more than brifters or dt plus levers. Not that I care a TON but that is what I heard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
If an RBW thread eventually includes a link to weight weenies dot com, I'm going to expire. On Sep 14, 12:07 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: No, if you use bar end or downtube shifters plus regular brake levers, it's probably going to be because you prefer them, not because you are counting grams (although they do weigh less) or dollars (although they are cheaper). From my understanding bar ends plus levers weighed more than brifters or dt plus levers. Not that I care a TON but that is what I heard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
--initiate tongue-in-cheek sequence-- I'm deeply offended by tarptents. They claim that the golden gate bridge main cables are a catenary curve in shape. Hogwash! They were catenaries before the roadbed was attached. The roadbed pulled them into parabolas. What's the matter with those people?! --terminate tongue-in-cheek sequence-- On Sep 14, 10:18 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at Tarp Tents for my next tent for a long while, though haven't gotten around to picking one up. Cool to hear you've had good results with yours in this area Stewart. The Double Rainbow sleeps two and weighs 2 1/2 lbs. That could be my choice for S24Os (or longer) with my seven-year-old son. Henry Shires is super nice too, and very helpful. Seems like a very Rivendellish company. For for one person trips, the Tarp Tent Moment looks very cool. http://tarptent.com/moment.html 1 3/4 lbs and can be free-standing. (Although at 2 1/2 lbs, the Double Rainbow would be fine) For solo trips I'm also intrigued by hammocks, especially this one: http://warbonnetoutdoors.com/blackbirds.php Another small company making really high quality stuff, from what I've read. Rob in Seattle On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Stuart Fletcher wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:18, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: One more for the Seedhouse SL2. Mostly because of its small pack size on the bike. That mattered a lot to me. I got it on sale at REI. The Tarp Tent stuff is pretty rad. Indeed, the Tarptents are very nice. I use a Contrail for solo bike camping and couldn't be happier. They are single layer, which may be a deal breaker for some. I think it's a fair trade off for the light weight and small packing size. The Contrail at least also has a dead simple and very fast set up. They have a nice variety of 2 person tents, too. (http://tarptent.com/products.html) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
Jeff, Nice color and frame. How long is the wait from beginning till now? Thanks, Ron On Sep 14, 9:41 am, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
Yeah, I was curious about that. I have owned a TarpTent Rainbow for several years. I use it for backpacking. I use trekking poles to turn it into a free-stander. Great tent. Henry makes a lot of good stuff. If I get another tent, I'm going for the double rainbow. Ray From: Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 10:06:37 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:00, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Stuart -- Do you carry a trekking pole on the bike to set this tent up? Or do you use another method? Hi Ray, good question. I was tripped up by that at first (I can't carry a trekking pole on my bike!) but it turns out there's an optional collapsible shock-corded pole you can get with it which I did. Tarptent says it weights 2oz. It rolls right up with the tent (as do the stakes) so makes a nice integrated package. A friend of mine got one of the two person Tarptents (can't recall which) but he hasn't had a chance to use it yet, or I could report on that model as well. Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA From: Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 8:41:57 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Tent suggestions On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:18, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: One more for the Seedhouse SL2. Mostly because of its small pack size on the bike. That mattered a lot to me. I got it on sale at REI. The Tarp Tent stuff is pretty rad. Indeed, the Tarptents are very nice. I use a Contrail for solo bike camping and couldn't be happier. They are single layer, which may be a deal breaker for some. I think it's a fair trade off for the light weight and small packing size. The Contrail at least also has a dead simple and very fast set up. They have a nice variety of 2 person tents, too. (http://tarptent.com/products.html) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
It took a little over a year for the frame to be built (which was fine-- I needed that time to pay it off!) Then there was the wait on the paint which was longer than I expected, but you don't rush perfection. All told, about 15 months from when I placed the order. That's not a very long wait when you already have a great bike to ride. Jeff On Sep 14, 3:33 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote: Jeff, Nice color and frame. How long is the wait from beginning till now? Thanks, Ron On Sep 14, 9:41 am, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
That's a beauty. I'd have a tough time waiting another year to build it up. Of course, for such a frame,components should be carefully considered:) How are you going to build it up? Not bad turnaround time, considering that only Mark Nobilette building for Rivendell, and he has his RH gig , too. I ordered my Rivendell road frame in Aug 2000 and received it around the middle of October 2001 when Curt Goodrich and Joe Starck were building the customs; mine was built by Curt Goodrich. I think it was in the paint queue for about 6 weeks or so. Good thing about the wait , though, is that the bike was actually paid for (not lurking on my credit card) by the time I received it. Enjoy your new bike! Regards, Ryan On Sep 14, 4:01 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: It took a little over a year for the frame to be built (which was fine-- I needed that time to pay it off!) Then there was the wait on the paint which was longer than I expected, but you don't rush perfection. All told, about 15 months from when I placed the order. That's not a very long wait when you already have a great bike to ride. Jeff On Sep 14, 3:33 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote: Jeff, Nice color and frame. How long is the wait from beginning till now? Thanks, Ron On Sep 14, 9:41 am, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Brand V Handlebar Bag
Hi all, I am selling my Brand V Handlebar bag - it is the soft one that Riv sold several months ago, not the new BoxyBar Bag. It has seen rain on a few long rides, but is in good condition. I tried to take a picture of some discoloration that is by one of the brake hood straps, but it didn't quite come out. There is a mark, but it is not that big of a deal. Some chocolate spilled on the inside of the bag, and left some stains there. I wiped it out and it is pretty clean now. Here are some pix: http://picasaweb.google.com/swimberg/HBarBag?authkey=Gv1sRgCMar1OLnguv_tgEfeat=directlink Although it's not in the pictures, the clear map case that goes on top is included. It is in good condition too. How does $55 including USPS Priority Mail shipping sound? Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
I'd love to buy the SE saddle! I was just looking around on the list for one now... I'm happy to Paypal you immediately. My zip is 90026. Let me know! Thanks, Dave On Sep 14, 5:06 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
Saddle sold! On Sep 14, 8:17 pm, Dave in Los Angeles freshd...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to buy the SE saddle! I was just looking around on the list for one now... I'm happy to Paypal you immediately. My zip is 90026. Let me know! Thanks, Dave On Sep 14, 5:06 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OT: NYC hotels
Hey Riv folks. I always trust the taste + opinions of this group. Looking for a hotel recommendation for NYC/Brooklyn area in October. Any Riv-ish suggestions? Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: NYC hotels
I'm a fan of Ace hotels in general. http://www.acehotel.com/newyork If you want something in Manhattan a little further downtown, I just stayed at the Bowery and it was great! http://www.theboweryhotel.com/ Both are reasonable for NY, and have a great atmosphere. D On Sep 14, 5:51 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Riv folks. I always trust the taste + opinions of this group. Looking for a hotel recommendation for NYC/Brooklyn area in October. Any Riv-ish suggestions? Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
Hi do you have a photo of the Stronglight crankset? Thanks EJG On Sep 14, 8:06 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sam first look
I received my Sam about a week ago. This site and my friend Bruce (fullylugged) convinced me that this was the bike I should buy. My first impression of the Sam is “Wow”! The color and graphics are great. It really is a beautiful bike. I was worried about the fit on the bike because of the big differences between sizes. The bike fits me as well as my custom titanium Seven. I have raised the bar height to 2cm above the saddle and have angled the bar about 5%. I am still playing with these adjustments. I took the bike out on its maiden voyage this past Saturday. I took an eighty mile tour through the country side, south of Montgomery. The temperature hit 96; it was just plain “HOT”. The terrain was mostly flat with about a twelve mile stretch of rollers ranging from three to seven percent grade. The pavement ranged from smooth to rattle your teeth chip and seal asphalt. I was having trouble with the indexed shifting in a couple of the gears so I switched to friction shifting. I really found out I prefer it. I stayed mostly in the 48 and occasionally in the 36. I never had to use the 24, but I am anxious to try it. The bike road smooth as silk. Surprisingly, I did not lose a lot of speed as compared to my Seven. The Brooks saddle is still a little stiff, but not too bad. The bikes front end was very steady, even with no hands riding. The bike turned with ease, by just applying slight pressure to the handle bars. I couldn’t be more pleased with the bike. Thanks again to the helpful and passionate Rivendell owners on this site. Bruce, you need to plan another destination ride. My build is as follows: 48 Orange frame Sugino xd2 48/36/24 crank 9 speed 11-32 cass Canti Tektro cr720 brakes Nitto noodle 44 bars Nitto technomic stem Viva dk blue cloth tape Dura Ace 9s bar end shifters Campy Triple f der Shimano xt rr long cage Brooks B17 special honey 650 B r36 Synergy wheels Pacenti Pari-Moto tires Nitto mini front rack Nitto r14 rear rack Joe McNair -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
On Sep 14, 12:07 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: No, if you use bar end or downtube shifters plus regular brake levers, it's probably going to be because you prefer them, not because you are counting grams (although they do weigh less) or dollars (although they are cheaper). Agree, the main difference is how do YOU want to shift?! If you like integrated shifters, go for it. If you prefer dt or bar-ends, do it! Try them all and see what works for YOU!!! From my understanding bar ends plus levers weighed more than brifters or dt plus levers. Depends. If you weigh a pair of Shimano brake levers (115g) and DA 9 DT shifters (170g) the total is around 285g; the same levers (115g) and DA 10 bar-ends (205g) is a bit more at 320g. In contrast, Sram red integrated shifters weigh about 290g; Campy SR 11 ergos iabout 330g and DA 10 STI are around 380g Not that I care a TON but that is what I heard. Hey I CARE! Not that it is going to help me climb any fasterGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
Absolutely amazing. Congrats On Sep 14, 11:08 am, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. So these are Nobilette built framesets? Doug On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:00 AM, frank_a fk...@aol.com wrote: Jeff, That looks great! Good luck holding out on that build. My custom is at Joe Bell's shop right now so it shouldn't be too much longer for me. Have fun, - Frank On Sep 14, 12:41 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
on 9/14/10 11:07 AM, Garth at garth...@gmail.com wrote: Wait a mintute though ,we're talking about Silver Caliper brakes yes? If so, what's all the talk about canti geometry and yokes? The problem is not the brakes, it's either some drag in the line or the levers themselves. Calipers are calipers, if you squeeze them in your hand they should spring back when released, if not you got some bad calipers, buy I've never heard of such. OP said he had not gotten the Silver brakes to work to his satisfaction, and then changed to a Paul aenterpull model, which does have a yoke and transverse cable. - Jim list admind/disambiguation dept/division of the department of redundancy department -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and rode several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew, and went in. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sam first look
Congrats on your new bicycle and a great ride! You said first look - any photos? Aaron Young Rocheser, NY On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:43 PM, jmac jmcnair7...@yahoo.com wrote: I received my Sam about a week ago. This site and my friend Bruce (fullylugged) convinced me that this was the bike I should buy. My first impression of the Sam is “Wow”! The color and graphics are great. It really is a beautiful bike. I was worried about the fit on the bike because of the big differences between sizes. The bike fits me as well as my custom titanium Seven. I have raised the bar height to 2cm above the saddle and have angled the bar about 5%. I am still playing with these adjustments. I took the bike out on its maiden voyage this past Saturday. I took an eighty mile tour through the country side, south of Montgomery. The temperature hit 96; it was just plain “HOT”. The terrain was mostly flat with about a twelve mile stretch of rollers ranging from three to seven percent grade. The pavement ranged from smooth to rattle your teeth chip and seal asphalt. I was having trouble with the indexed shifting in a couple of the gears so I switched to friction shifting. I really found out I prefer it. I stayed mostly in the 48 and occasionally in the 36. I never had to use the 24, but I am anxious to try it. The bike road smooth as silk. Surprisingly, I did not lose a lot of speed as compared to my Seven. The Brooks saddle is still a little stiff, but not too bad. The bikes front end was very steady, even with no hands riding. The bike turned with ease, by just applying slight pressure to the handle bars. I couldn’t be more pleased with the bike. Thanks again to the helpful and passionate Rivendell owners on this site. Bruce, you need to plan another destination ride. My build is as follows: 48 Orange frame Sugino xd2 48/36/24 crank 9 speed 11-32 cass Canti Tektro cr720 brakes Nitto noodle 44 bars Nitto technomic stem Viva dk blue cloth tape Dura Ace 9s bar end shifters Campy Triple f der Shimano xt rr long cage Brooks B17 special honey 650 B r36 Synergy wheels Pacenti Pari-Moto tires Nitto mini front rack Nitto r14 rear rack Joe McNair -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sam first look
ahh, we can do that, for sure... Really glad that you like the bike. Can't wait to see it/ride it myself! From: jmac jmcnair7...@yahoo.com Bruce, you need to plan another destination ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
If you weigh a pair of Shimano brake levers (115g) A single Shimano brake lever weighs more than 115g. Campy record carbon brakelevers weigh 210g or so. Shimano Tiagras are more likely in the 270g range. Your point, I think, remains the same: use what you like. On Sep 14, 1:10 pm, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 14, 12:07 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: No, if you use bar end or downtube shifters plus regular brake levers, it's probably going to be because you prefer them, not because you are counting grams (although they do weigh less) or dollars (although they are cheaper). Agree, the main difference is how do YOU want to shift?! If you like integrated shifters, go for it. If you prefer dt or bar-ends, do it! Try them all and see what works for YOU!!! From my understanding bar ends plus levers weighed more than brifters or dt plus levers. Depends. If you weigh a pair of Shimano brake levers (115g) and DA 9 DT shifters (170g) the total is around 285g; the same levers (115g) and DA 10 bar-ends (205g) is a bit more at 320g. In contrast, Sram red integrated shifters weigh about 290g; Campy SR 11 ergos iabout 330g and DA 10 STI are around 380g Not that I care a TON but that is what I heard. Hey I CARE! Not that it is going to help me climb any fasterGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] e-Garage Sale #7
Hello fellow Rivendell Riders! My newest e-Garage Sale is now online. Please help me keep clearing out the garage! Note there are some free items, too. Really, it ALL has to go! Thanks for checking. As always, first come, first served and payment accepted via Paypal only. http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.html Thanks to your support, the end is in sight: I will be done with this flurry of garage sales after one, maybe two, more sales! Yours in sport, Chris Kostman -- AdventureCORPS, Inc. 638 Lindero Canyon Rd #311 Oak Park, CA 91377 USA http://www.adventurecorps.com http://www.the508.com http://www.XO-1.org -- Sign up for our email newsletter! Click here: http://www.adventurecorps.com/lists.html -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
Actually, I got the frame unpainted from Rivendell and had Joe Bell and his team file off the original brifter cable guide braze-ons and then braze-on the down tube shifter mounts when they did the paint. - Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA http://www.XO-1/org On Sep 14, 10:53 am, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: http://www.xo-1.org/2010_03_01_archive.html http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ny-s_0BbP2k/TCrhFcazt_I/B_o/GJETLa8... On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Moot point, right? I mean, I thought the Roadeo didn't have the proper bosses for downtube shifters. It looks to me like all thatąs there are cable guides. Like the Blériot. I own a Blériot, and I consider the lack of downtube shifter bosses its single fault. -- Jon Not An Expert Grant, who should be drawing bobcats in Austin, Texas Chris had those bosses added as an extra work item when he ordered the frame. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeos and Downtube Shifters
A single Shimano brake lever weighs more than 115g. Campy record carbon brakelevers weigh 210g or so. Shimano Tiagras are more likely in the 270g range. Your point, I think, remains the same: use what you like. A set of Tektro levers is about 260g. Shimano DT shifters are actually 76g for the pair. Total 336g Those Tektros with barcons would add up to about 450g. In contrast light brifters start at 300g for the pair and go to close to 400g. So brifters can be lighter but DT + levers is the next best thing weight wise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/4794264003/ On Sep 14, 9:05 pm, ejg egi...@maine.rr.com wrote: Hi do you have a photo of the Stronglight crankset? Thanks EJG On Sep 14, 8:06 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
All items pending sales. On Sep 14, 9:53 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/4794264003/ On Sep 14, 9:05 pm, ejg egi...@maine.rr.com wrote: Hi do you have a photo of the Stronglight crankset? Thanks EJG On Sep 14, 8:06 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OT: NYC hotels
Hi, Lesli! Not a Brooklyn hotel, but a real nice one in Manhattan, and reasonable. The Milburn Hotel, 76th street, just west of Broadway, and two blocks east of Riverside Park. Also near Central Park, the Met, a bunch of nice little restaurants, and a few delis and grocery stores/delis. The hotel let us keep our road bikes up in our room - amazing! How's the new bike coming along? On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Riv folks. I always trust the taste + opinions of this group. Looking for a hotel recommendation for NYC/Brooklyn area in October. Any Riv-ish suggestions? Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: NYC hotels
The Larchmont is inexpensive and very central (in the Village), if you dont mind that the bathroom is down the hall. Seth Ely On Sep 14, 5:51 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Riv folks. I always trust the taste + opinions of this group. Looking for a hotel recommendation for NYC/Brooklyn area in October. Any Riv-ish suggestions? Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: NYC hotels
Check out the rooms at the Jane Hotel. These look like a Rivendell room to me: http://www.thejanenyc.com/#/rooms/1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
I did a review of two person tents for a magazine last year, and tried out a bunch. I concur with the person who recommended double wall, free standing. Relative to that subcategory, MSR and Sierra Designs appeared to have better design, material and build quality than Big Agnes. There are any number of possible designs from these two firms--all appear about the same. The pyramid type tarps like Go Light ended up being alot of trouble to set up--at night or in the rain, it's convenient to have something that goes up the same way anywhere. One surprising option: Eureka Timberline is extremely inexpensive, well-designed, durable and practical. If you're touring with a trailer, you might want to consider the four person model. It is huge, much more comfortable than compact two person tents, and a practical design--sells for about $139. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Rack, Stronglight 49d, Selle-Anatomica,
i'd love to buy the rack if it's available. does it include the mounting hardware? my email is bren...@gmail.com cheers, brencho On Sep 14, 7:06 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Up on the block: - Nitto M12 Rack. No more cantis, no more rack! 50 + shipping. - Stronglight 49d crankset. Used, etc. 40 + Shipping. - Selle-Anatomica Clydesdale saddle w/ cutout. 50 + shipping. -Justin ps: shipping is from 19143. Available for Philly pickup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
Indeed, the Tarptents are very nice. SNIIP Wholeheartedly agree. GREAT TENTS, GREAT COMPANY. I've been using a discontinued model (the Squall IIRC, single person version) of the tarptent for 3 years. Works well. Light weight, quick to set up, does a good job of keeping my dry in the wet, good ventilation. Best, Larry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
