Re: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Wow - sounds like you may want to send it in for a retrofitted double-tube! Mobile Brian Hanson On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:32 PM, happyriding wrote: > Hi, > >> The ride is what matters to me. The water >> bottle setup with the diagonal tube will be odd to me. The frame >> doesn't need to be any stiffer. > > I have a 60cm Bombadil with Velocity Dyad rims, 40 spoke rear/36 > front, and it rides like a wet noodle. It shimmies all over the > place. In fact, I think it's borderline dangerous. I also have to > trim the front derailleur all the way to the right when I stand and > climb otherwise the front derailleur rubs because the frame flexes so > much. The first time I loaded up my Bombadil with front and rear > panniers, I thought I would have to cancel my planned tour because it > shimmied so badly. I don't know if there was a mistake in the tubing > or what, but it definitely could stand to be *much* stiffer. > > I'm 6' 4" and I weigh 215 lbs, so I'm not an NFL linebacker or > anything like that. I'm just a cyclist. > > happy > > >> It adds more unnecessary weight to >> and already perfect frame. The frame can be as super heavy duty as you >> want .. but the limiting factor on the road will always be the >> wheels. Are we to use 48 spoke wheels to compliment the stout-er >> frame? Lol:) It's just seems like they've chosen their idea of >> aesthetics over real world function to me. It's not the end of the >> world or anything ..but hey, it's their frames, and they can do >> anything they want. We either buy them or we don't. >> >> I'd like another Bombadil. one for the road, and one dedicated >> off road. I'll take the new paint scheme with the current frame. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Hi, > The ride is what matters to me. The water > bottle setup with the diagonal tube will be odd to me. The frame > doesn't need to be any stiffer. I have a 60cm Bombadil with Velocity Dyad rims, 40 spoke rear/36 front, and it rides like a wet noodle. It shimmies all over the place. In fact, I think it's borderline dangerous. I also have to trim the front derailleur all the way to the right when I stand and climb otherwise the front derailleur rubs because the frame flexes so much. The first time I loaded up my Bombadil with front and rear panniers, I thought I would have to cancel my planned tour because it shimmied so badly. I don't know if there was a mistake in the tubing or what, but it definitely could stand to be *much* stiffer. I'm 6' 4" and I weigh 215 lbs, so I'm not an NFL linebacker or anything like that. I'm just a cyclist. happy > It adds more unnecessary weight to > and already perfect frame. The frame can be as super heavy duty as you > want .. but the limiting factor on the road will always be the > wheels. Are we to use 48 spoke wheels to compliment the stout-er > frame? Lol:) It's just seems like they've chosen their idea of > aesthetics over real world function to me. It's not the end of the > world or anything ..but hey, it's their frames, and they can do > anything they want. We either buy them or we don't. > > I'd like another Bombadil. one for the road, and one dedicated > off road. I'll take the new paint scheme with the current frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Da Bomb. Very similar to my 1981 Santana tandem... er ... the 1981 Santana tandem ... the only frame design made by Santana at the time. Of course for those of you who remember, the single lateral tube ran from the head tube to the rear seat tube and then split and connected to the seat stays, several inches above the dropout. The twin laterals actually started in front of the rear seat tube and was joined to the rear seat tube. The triangulation made the Santana one stiff rear end with NO flex ... and added a bit o' weight. I loved my 47 pound beast and miss her greatly. Ah, the foolish things we do when we sell our bicycles to pay for stupid investments... like a college education! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis vs. Hunq vs. Bomb(s)
Can anyone give personal accounts regarding ride quality difference between large Atlantis 66cm+ vs. a 62cm Hunq vs. A 64cm Bomb. Looking for the best touring bike for myself. I am 6'7" 235lbs. PBH 95.5, saddle height 85. I have a 71cm non lugged Nobilette custom road bike and a NOS 64cm powdercoated Riv Protovelo frame by Nobilette one of which I will likely sell to help fund my winter build. Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: retro kit: jerseys, tights, sox, wool (-ish, -like).
Takitall for $50 shipped. OBO. 1. Nice, fatto in Polacco retro ls jersey, very good, in full, virgin acrylic but looks like wool and stinks less than your typical cheap plastic, navy and red panels, 3 rear pockets. Size L, fits me (long torso'd 5'10" slender build) just right. 2. Fatto in Italia ss Addidas jersey, 50 wool, 50 plastic, very good, fits as above but slightly snugger, med blue + navy, 3 rear pockets. 3. Fatto in Italia Sergal wool tights of which the waist is fine and even biggish for my slender torso but which, withal, are too short in the leg and way too short in the rise. Sub-dime-sized (about 7 cent size) hole near crotch, easily darnable. 4. Pair heather olive green Rick's BF knicker sox, one badly darned in shin area; otherwise vg, size L, mostly wool. Photos phorthcoming. Also: Wellgo track pedals, Shimano Carbon Fiber Soled road shoes, Easton 10 cm threadless stem, new, all cheap. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering a solo tour around the SF and San Pablo Bay. Looking for tips
Here's a great article on bike camping from the SF Chronicle from a few years back. Mentions some local places (Angel Island and Half Moon Bay beach camping). Bonus: an interview with GP and bike-camping related Riv talk: http://tinyurl.com/ybn38k3 Note that China Camp actually only costs $3 (maybe $6) if you are on a bike. They also sell wood and kindling on site. Lee On Oct 22, 4:42 pm, Lee wrote: > Hi Jordan. How many nights are you planning and what type of distance > would you like to do each day? A ride around the entire bay won't take > too many days. For starters, you can look into China Camp (CycloFiend > country) in San Rafael as one stop, the Portola Redwoods (hilly > country--pretty climb-y) as another, and Mt. Diablo (Riv country) as a > third. > > Cool idea! > > Lee > SF, CA > > On Oct 22, 1:36 pm, Jordan wrote: > > > I've never done a self-supported tour and I'm considering this as my > > first. I'd like to ride around the entire bay on my atlantis and stay > > as often as possible at campsites. > > > I'm looking for tips, especially in terms of route, campsites, and how > > long I should plan for the trip to take. Gear suggestions welcome as > > well since the weather will be pretty cool, but I feel pretty > > comfortable preparing for it. > > > Thank you! > > > Jordan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering a solo tour around the SF and San Pablo Bay. Looking for tips
Hi Jordan. How many nights are you planning and what type of distance would you like to do each day? A ride around the entire bay won't take too many days. For starters, you can look into China Camp (CycloFiend country) in San Rafael as one stop, the Portola Redwoods (hilly country--pretty climb-y) as another, and Mt. Diablo (Riv country) as a third. Cool idea! Lee SF, CA On Oct 22, 1:36 pm, Jordan wrote: > I've never done a self-supported tour and I'm considering this as my > first. I'd like to ride around the entire bay on my atlantis and stay > as often as possible at campsites. > > I'm looking for tips, especially in terms of route, campsites, and how > long I should plan for the trip to take. Gear suggestions welcome as > well since the weather will be pretty cool, but I feel pretty > comfortable preparing for it. > > Thank you! > > Jordan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Scratch; just saw your second attempt. Nice, if skinny. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:38 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Malheureusement, they don't show. I'd like to see them if you can > conveniently repost. Even though your tires are skinny, hard 50s. > > Patrick "just put *more* lovely miles on his Fargo" Moore > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Peter Andrews wrote: >> 70s? >> I thought I'd post some photos of my 60cm 2008 Bomba's chainstays >> (because I LOVE them) to give an idea of clearances from a visual >> (including aesthetic) perspective. 50-622 Schwalbe Marathon XR and VO >> 52mm zeppelin fender for 700c wheel. WI 175 crank with 46/30 rings on >> a 113 spindle (about .666 mm of chainstay clearance for the big ring >> after ultimate tightening of crank bolt). I should've pulled the >> crank up in the last photo to show the clearance there... whoops. >> >> >> >> >> https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-1&zw >> >> >> >> https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-2&zw >> >> >> >> >> >> https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-3&zw >> >> Wow, I'm inept. I have now idea if these photos posted or not >> hope they did. >> >> -Peter >> >> (Happy owner of a twin TT Bomba, but sure he'd love the diaga-Bomba if >> he had one too (though he thinks Riv should put the Hunqa and diaga- >> Bomba decals on the diagonal instead of the down-tube). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 22, 12:23 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >>> The custom was my idea, too, until I (1) learned that the Fargo does >>> indeed have room for 70s and fenders and air space and (2) got a very >>> good price on an almost new one. >>> >>> The Fargo has more clearance than did my Monocog 29er. >>> >>> Speaking of which (he said, craftily) the Monocog, much modified >>> (below) frameset plus lots of parts is for sale cheap: $300 + s/h in >>> CONUS. Includes OEM sp, new Profile bb and headset, Profile upjutter >>> stem, 46 sm Salsa Bell Laps, front and rear ROAD BB7 calipers with >>> front 185 mm disk (no levers) and (if you remind me) the OEM Redline f >>> and r hubs (ss). >>> >>> Modified by me: I squoze the right chainstay to accomodate a 46 t ring >>> with a ss drivetrain. (Don't ask why.) >>> >>> Professionally: removed canti brazeons; added fender and rack mounts; >>> added cross-forkleg strut, tapped, for good front fender line; and new >>> dark teal-y green powdercoat. >>> >>> The attached photos of the Fargo bb area are poor -- forgive the >>> fuzziness -- but my battery was very low and I could not get the flash >>> to work. The stays are deeply dimpled on the drive side to accomodate >>> a triple crank while keeping chainline and Q decent. The downside is >>> that nothing bigger than a 38 and 28 -- at most, possibly not even >>> these, since the existing 36 and 26 are very close -- will fit on the >>> middle and inner positions: a 44 and a 30 bottomed out when just slid >>> on the 113 spindle. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Garth wrote: >>> >>> > Patrick, do you have any photos of the Fargo's BB/chainstay area? I'm >>> > curious how they get the extra clearance for fatter tires, are the >>> > stays dimpled or something? >>> >>> > Now that you mention it it would be nice to be able to use the >>> > huge fenders with wider tires. I'm limited to P50 fenders on the >>> > Bombadil, Cascadia 29'ers won't fit the fork. >>> >>> > Maybe I should get a custom monster tire non-29'er Bomba-like frame >>> > made. It wouldn't be lugged, but I'm not married to lugs. >>> >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group >>> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, NM >>> For professional resumes, contact >>> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com >>> >>> IMG_5414.jpg >>> 593KViewDownload >>> >>> IMG_5413.jpg >>> 561KViewDownload >>> >>> IMG_5411.JPG >>> 303KViewDownload >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patri
Re: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Malheureusement, they don't show. I'd like to see them if you can conveniently repost. Even though your tires are skinny, hard 50s. Patrick "just put *more* lovely miles on his Fargo" Moore On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Peter Andrews wrote: > 70s? > I thought I'd post some photos of my 60cm 2008 Bomba's chainstays > (because I LOVE them) to give an idea of clearances from a visual > (including aesthetic) perspective. 50-622 Schwalbe Marathon XR and VO > 52mm zeppelin fender for 700c wheel. WI 175 crank with 46/30 rings on > a 113 spindle (about .666 mm of chainstay clearance for the big ring > after ultimate tightening of crank bolt). I should've pulled the > crank up in the last photo to show the clearance there... whoops. > > > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-1&zw > > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-2&zw > > > > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-3&zw > > Wow, I'm inept. I have now idea if these photos posted or not > hope they did. > > -Peter > > (Happy owner of a twin TT Bomba, but sure he'd love the diaga-Bomba if > he had one too (though he thinks Riv should put the Hunqa and diaga- > Bomba decals on the diagonal instead of the down-tube). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 12:23 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> The custom was my idea, too, until I (1) learned that the Fargo does >> indeed have room for 70s and fenders and air space and (2) got a very >> good price on an almost new one. >> >> The Fargo has more clearance than did my Monocog 29er. >> >> Speaking of which (he said, craftily) the Monocog, much modified >> (below) frameset plus lots of parts is for sale cheap: $300 + s/h in >> CONUS. Includes OEM sp, new Profile bb and headset, Profile upjutter >> stem, 46 sm Salsa Bell Laps, front and rear ROAD BB7 calipers with >> front 185 mm disk (no levers) and (if you remind me) the OEM Redline f >> and r hubs (ss). >> >> Modified by me: I squoze the right chainstay to accomodate a 46 t ring >> with a ss drivetrain. (Don't ask why.) >> >> Professionally: removed canti brazeons; added fender and rack mounts; >> added cross-forkleg strut, tapped, for good front fender line; and new >> dark teal-y green powdercoat. >> >> The attached photos of the Fargo bb area are poor -- forgive the >> fuzziness -- but my battery was very low and I could not get the flash >> to work. The stays are deeply dimpled on the drive side to accomodate >> a triple crank while keeping chainline and Q decent. The downside is >> that nothing bigger than a 38 and 28 -- at most, possibly not even >> these, since the existing 36 and 26 are very close -- will fit on the >> middle and inner positions: a 44 and a 30 bottomed out when just slid >> on the 113 spindle. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Garth wrote: >> >> > Patrick, do you have any photos of the Fargo's BB/chainstay area? I'm >> > curious how they get the extra clearance for fatter tires, are the >> > stays dimpled or something? >> >> > Now that you mention it it would be nice to be able to use the >> > huge fenders with wider tires. I'm limited to P50 fenders on the >> > Bombadil, Cascadia 29'ers won't fit the fork. >> >> > Maybe I should get a custom monster tire non-29'er Bomba-like frame >> > made. It wouldn't be lugged, but I'm not married to lugs. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> For professional resumes, contact >> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com >> >> IMG_5414.jpg >> 593KViewDownload >> >> IMG_5413.jpg >> 561KViewDownload >> >> IMG_5411.JPG >> 303KViewDownload > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Same as yours, a 60. The stays are likely the same as yours, as mine was an early model too. Apparently they've change them a bit to require a 115mm BB w/XD2 crank. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Here it goes... http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/5106029644/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/5106030706/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/5106031656/ ...hope that works... I'm sure I'd be better at tuning pianos than anything comp.tech related... Garth, what size is your frame? On Oct 22, 2:33 pm, Peter Andrews wrote: > Ack! Thanks Garth, I'll try Flickrizing them and seeing if that > works... > > On Oct 22, 2:30 pm, Garth wrote: > > > Peter's photos are not working for me, I get a google Temporary Error > > (404). Internet madness! > > > Here's a photo of just the stays on my Bomb prior to being built > > up.http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4951830557_4db78ca5a1_b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Ack! Thanks Garth, I'll try Flickrizing them and seeing if that works... On Oct 22, 2:30 pm, Garth wrote: > Peter's photos are not working for me, I get a google Temporary Error > (404). Internet madness! > > Here's a photo of just the stays on my Bomb prior to being built > up.http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4951830557_4db78ca5a1_b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Peter's photos are not working for me, I get a google Temporary Error (404). Internet madness! Here's a photo of just the stays on my Bomb prior to being built up. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4951830557_4db78ca5a1_b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
70s? I thought I'd post some photos of my 60cm 2008 Bomba's chainstays (because I LOVE them) to give an idea of clearances from a visual (including aesthetic) perspective. 50-622 Schwalbe Marathon XR and VO 52mm zeppelin fender for 700c wheel. WI 175 crank with 46/30 rings on a 113 spindle (about .666 mm of chainstay clearance for the big ring after ultimate tightening of crank bolt). I should've pulled the crank up in the last photo to show the clearance there... whoops. https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-1&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-2&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8b1dc14a55&view=att&th=12bd5bdc321af5cc&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=1350336396926541507-3&zw Wow, I'm inept. I have now idea if these photos posted or not hope they did. -Peter (Happy owner of a twin TT Bomba, but sure he'd love the diaga-Bomba if he had one too (though he thinks Riv should put the Hunqa and diaga- Bomba decals on the diagonal instead of the down-tube). On Oct 22, 12:23 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > The custom was my idea, too, until I (1) learned that the Fargo does > indeed have room for 70s and fenders and air space and (2) got a very > good price on an almost new one. > > The Fargo has more clearance than did my Monocog 29er. > > Speaking of which (he said, craftily) the Monocog, much modified > (below) frameset plus lots of parts is for sale cheap: $300 + s/h in > CONUS. Includes OEM sp, new Profile bb and headset, Profile upjutter > stem, 46 sm Salsa Bell Laps, front and rear ROAD BB7 calipers with > front 185 mm disk (no levers) and (if you remind me) the OEM Redline f > and r hubs (ss). > > Modified by me: I squoze the right chainstay to accomodate a 46 t ring > with a ss drivetrain. (Don't ask why.) > > Professionally: removed canti brazeons; added fender and rack mounts; > added cross-forkleg strut, tapped, for good front fender line; and new > dark teal-y green powdercoat. > > The attached photos of the Fargo bb area are poor -- forgive the > fuzziness -- but my battery was very low and I could not get the flash > to work. The stays are deeply dimpled on the drive side to accomodate > a triple crank while keeping chainline and Q decent. The downside is > that nothing bigger than a 38 and 28 -- at most, possibly not even > these, since the existing 36 and 26 are very close -- will fit on the > middle and inner positions: a 44 and a 30 bottomed out when just slid > on the 113 spindle. > > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Garth wrote: > > > Patrick, do you have any photos of the Fargo's BB/chainstay area? I'm > > curious how they get the extra clearance for fatter tires, are the > > stays dimpled or something? > > > Now that you mention it it would be nice to be able to use the > > huge fenders with wider tires. I'm limited to P50 fenders on the > > Bombadil, Cascadia 29'ers won't fit the fork. > > > Maybe I should get a custom monster tire non-29'er Bomba-like frame > > made. It wouldn't be lugged, but I'm not married to lugs. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > IMG_5414.jpg > 593KViewDownload > > IMG_5413.jpg > 561KViewDownload > > IMG_5411.JPG > 303KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: :) The end is near!
Yes, but you gotta live in the Pittsburgh area to get them! Wow . a bonus for living around here:) Kraynicks is great, a real diamond in the rough. When I think "bike shop" I think Kraynicks. I grew up with shops like that. .. . . dirty, unorganized yet full of good stuff! On Oct 22, 1:41 pm, Sean Whelan wrote: > Jerry Kraynick likely has more New Old Stock Shimano 6 and 7 speed freewheels > than everyone on this list can use in the next 25 years. > > http://www.panoramafactory.com/kraynick/index.htmlhttp://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07316/833111-85.stm > > He has the inventory from many mom and pop shops that went out of business. > > Thanks, > Sean > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
That's great Patrick.thanks for posting them. I can see the difference between the Fargo and the Bombadil clearly, as the Bomba's chainstays are round, thick and unmodified. The Fargo suits pure mtb cranks, though I see for 2011 they're using FSA Comet cranks in a 27/40T. Good luck with replacement rings on that one ! http://salsacycles.com/bikes/fargo/fargo_2011_complete/ How did you post the photos, I've wanted to, but thought we could not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: :) The end is near!
Thank [fill in your go to thankee here] for this list---the great reserve/trove of odd-ball items and items forever relegated to the sands of time from the masses! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Considering a solo tour around the SF and San Pablo Bay. Looking for tips
I've never done a self-supported tour and I'm considering this as my first. I'd like to ride around the entire bay on my atlantis and stay as often as possible at campsites. I'm looking for tips, especially in terms of route, campsites, and how long I should plan for the trip to take. Gear suggestions welcome as well since the weather will be pretty cool, but I feel pretty comfortable preparing for it. Thank you! Jordan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fall change of pace
FWIW, if you let your min spir sit quietly in a jar for half an hour, all of the ugly sludge settles to the bottom and then you can (if your hands are steady) pour the cleanish stuff off into another jar, leaving said sludge behind (and worry about how you can get the ugly sludge out of the first jar). What *I* do is use a large coffee can (from cheap coffee I wouldn't condescend to *drink*) for swishing large, dirty parts about in, and then decant the leftover essence into a mayo jar for safekeeping once the sludge has settled. Then I can wipe out the ugly sludge with a rag or paper towel thus incurring just as much work but very slightly less expense and time than filtering the stuff through a coffee filter (anyway, I use a press for my coffee). (Actually, what *I* do is wax my chains, but the immediately forgoing is what I'd do if I bothered to clean my chains first, and what in fact I used to do before I became wax enlightened.) On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:38 PM, jlvota wrote: > Sending the dirty mineral spirits through a coffee filter has always > worked pretty well for me, too. It filters out all of the clumps of > sludge and grit pretty well. > > The only other thing that I have found that works better than mineral > spirits is gasoline, but there's a lot of bad stuff involved that > makes it not worth using (smell, fumes, disposal, exploding, etc.); I > think the main reason it works so well is what you said about the > whole evaporation deal. > > Another not on mineral spirits; it dries out your hands very badly if > you have a lot of contact with it. It also breaks down latex, so > wearing surgical gloves is no good. The gloves become really saggy > and combersome if you try to use them; not sure about non-latex. Just > put some bag balm on you hands after using it and you should be good. > > On Oct 22, 12:06 pm, MichaelH wrote: >> Yes. When I use the parks chain cleaner that I have I always use >> mineral spirits. That's what works best. Mineral spirits will >> evaporate off of the chain, whereas all other cleaners need to be >> washed off, otherwise they will be removing the new lube too. So how >> do you wash a chain in soap and water if its on the bike? Secondly >> the mineral spirits simply out performs other cleaning agents, which >> are fine for all the other jobs on the bike but less than great on >> this, the dirtiest part. After using the spirits I pour it off into a >> container and cover it tightly. The grit sinks to the bottom and I >> can reuse the spirits many times. >> >> michael >> >> On Oct 22, 12:05 pm, Bruce wrote: >> >> >> >> > The care package from Nashbar came in yesterday and last night after work >> > I got >> > to work on some bike projects. After trying to convince myself that I >> > liked an >> > Ultegra 53/39 double on the Ram, I put the original RBW issue BB and Sugino >> > triple (along with the 105 triple der) back on the bike. I had mis laid the >> > crank bolts and ended up having to buy replacements. So now the lost one s >> > will >> > surely appear, right? While the Sugino was off the bike, I replaced the >> > ring >> > bolts with non rusting (and LIGHTER!) alloy units, and swapped out the >> > stock 48 >> > for a (heavier, ugh) 50 outer ring. I'll ride this weekend and decide if I >> > can >> > tell a difference and whether I like it. I'm pretty sure I'll look to >> > re-home >> > the Ultegra set though, regardless. I have a V-O BB on the shelf, but the >> > original Shimano unit spun more smoothly in hand, so it went back in. >> >> > I also stripped the racks and fenders off the Saluki for the 1st time >> > since I've >> > owned the bike. Two years of Alabama summer swelter have drenched the >> > honjos in >> > salty sweat and they need serious cleaning, which is a lot easier to >> > accomplish >> > when they are off the bike. As it happens, I really like the stripped down >> > look >> > of the bike. With the Paul Neo-Retro brakes and GB Ourson tires, it has >> > quite >> > the fire road, almost CX manner to it. I can't wait to go find some >> > adventurous >> > dirt trail to check it out in. >> >> > I have a chain cleaner gizmo that has never seen use, and a can of mineral >> > spirits that my wife bought for a project, but which has also never seen >> > use. >> > Anyone ever use the one in the other to clean chains? From what I read >> > online, >> > it should be workable.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- Y
[RBW] Re: Marks Rack
I'll trade my lightly used Mark's Rack for a Nitto Mini if anyone is interested! On Oct 22, 3:26 pm, William wrote: > FYI. I had a Marks Rack on backorder for a while. It arrived > yesterday, and the Rivsite has them back in stock now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Marks Rack
FYI. I had a Marks Rack on backorder for a while. It arrived yesterday, and the Rivsite has them back in stock now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall change of pace
I used gasoline once. It worked very well. Then I put it in a jar and collected colorado potato beetles in it. That worked well too. Michael Who always wondered how the beetles got from Colorado to VT? On a tandem? On Oct 22, 2:38 pm, jlvota wrote: > > > The only other thing that I have found that works better than mineral > spirits is gasoline, but there's a lot of bad stuff involved that > makes it not worth using (smell, fumes, disposal, exploding, etc.); I > think the main reason it works so well is what you said about the > whole evaporation deal. > > > On Oct 22, 12:06 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > > > > Yes. When I use the parks chain cleaner that I have I always use > > mineral spirits. That's what works best. Mineral spirits will > > evaporate off of the chain, whereas all other cleaners need to be > > washed off, otherwise they will be removing the new lube too. So how > > do you wash a chain in soap and water if its on the bike? Secondly > > the mineral spirits simply out performs other cleaning agents, which > > are fine for all the other jobs on the bike but less than great on > > this, the dirtiest part. After using the spirits I pour it off into a > > container and cover it tightly. The grit sinks to the bottom and I > > can reuse the spirits many times. > > > michael > > > On Oct 22, 12:05 pm, Bruce wrote: > > > > The care package from Nashbar came in yesterday and last night after work > > > I got > > > to work on some bike projects. After trying to convince myself that I > > > liked an > > > Ultegra 53/39 double on the Ram, I put the original RBW issue BB and > > > Sugino > > > triple (along with the 105 triple der) back on the bike. I had mis laid > > > the > > > crank bolts and ended up having to buy replacements. So now the lost one > > > s will > > > surely appear, right? While the Sugino was off the bike, I replaced the > > > ring > > > bolts with non rusting (and LIGHTER!) alloy units, and swapped out the > > > stock 48 > > > for a (heavier, ugh) 50 outer ring. I'll ride this weekend and decide if > > > I can > > > tell a difference and whether I like it. I'm pretty sure I'll look to > > > re-home > > > the Ultegra set though, regardless. I have a V-O BB on the shelf, but the > > > original Shimano unit spun more smoothly in hand, so it went back in. > > > > I also stripped the racks and fenders off the Saluki for the 1st time > > > since I've > > > owned the bike. Two years of Alabama summer swelter have drenched the > > > honjos in > > > salty sweat and they need serious cleaning, which is a lot easier to > > > accomplish > > > when they are off the bike. As it happens, I really like the stripped > > > down look > > > of the bike. With the Paul Neo-Retro brakes and GB Ourson tires, it has > > > quite > > > the fire road, almost CX manner to it. I can't wait to go find some > > > adventurous > > > dirt trail to check it out in. > > > > I have a chain cleaner gizmo that has never seen use, and a can of mineral > > > spirits that my wife bought for a project, but which has also never seen > > > use. > > > Anyone ever use the one in the other to clean chains? From what I read > > > online, > > > it should be workable.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall change of pace
Sending the dirty mineral spirits through a coffee filter has always worked pretty well for me, too. It filters out all of the clumps of sludge and grit pretty well. The only other thing that I have found that works better than mineral spirits is gasoline, but there's a lot of bad stuff involved that makes it not worth using (smell, fumes, disposal, exploding, etc.); I think the main reason it works so well is what you said about the whole evaporation deal. Another not on mineral spirits; it dries out your hands very badly if you have a lot of contact with it. It also breaks down latex, so wearing surgical gloves is no good. The gloves become really saggy and combersome if you try to use them; not sure about non-latex. Just put some bag balm on you hands after using it and you should be good. On Oct 22, 12:06 pm, MichaelH wrote: > Yes. When I use the parks chain cleaner that I have I always use > mineral spirits. That's what works best. Mineral spirits will > evaporate off of the chain, whereas all other cleaners need to be > washed off, otherwise they will be removing the new lube too. So how > do you wash a chain in soap and water if its on the bike? Secondly > the mineral spirits simply out performs other cleaning agents, which > are fine for all the other jobs on the bike but less than great on > this, the dirtiest part. After using the spirits I pour it off into a > container and cover it tightly. The grit sinks to the bottom and I > can reuse the spirits many times. > > michael > > On Oct 22, 12:05 pm, Bruce wrote: > > > > > The care package from Nashbar came in yesterday and last night after work I > > got > > to work on some bike projects. After trying to convince myself that I > > liked an > > Ultegra 53/39 double on the Ram, I put the original RBW issue BB and Sugino > > triple (along with the 105 triple der) back on the bike. I had mis laid the > > crank bolts and ended up having to buy replacements. So now the lost one s > > will > > surely appear, right? While the Sugino was off the bike, I replaced the ring > > bolts with non rusting (and LIGHTER!) alloy units, and swapped out the > > stock 48 > > for a (heavier, ugh) 50 outer ring. I'll ride this weekend and decide if I > > can > > tell a difference and whether I like it. I'm pretty sure I'll look to > > re-home > > the Ultegra set though, regardless. I have a V-O BB on the shelf, but the > > original Shimano unit spun more smoothly in hand, so it went back in. > > > I also stripped the racks and fenders off the Saluki for the 1st time since > > I've > > owned the bike. Two years of Alabama summer swelter have drenched the > > honjos in > > salty sweat and they need serious cleaning, which is a lot easier to > > accomplish > > when they are off the bike. As it happens, I really like the stripped down > > look > > of the bike. With the Paul Neo-Retro brakes and GB Ourson tires, it has > > quite > > the fire road, almost CX manner to it. I can't wait to go find some > > adventurous > > dirt trail to check it out in. > > > I have a chain cleaner gizmo that has never seen use, and a can of mineral > > spirits that my wife bought for a project, but which has also never seen > > use. > > Anyone ever use the one in the other to clean chains? From what I read > > online, > > it should be workable.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Patrick, do you have any photos of the Fargo's BB/chainstay area? I'm curious how they get the extra clearance for fatter tires, are the stays dimpled or something? Now that you mention it it would be nice to be able to use the huge fenders with wider tires. I'm limited to P50 fenders on the Bombadil, Cascadia 29'ers won't fit the fork. Maybe I should get a custom monster tire non-29'er Bomba-like frame made. It wouldn't be lugged, but I'm not married to lugs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Patrick, do you have any photos of the Fargo's BB/chainstay area? I'm curious how they get the extra clearance for fatter tires, are the stays dimpled or something? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fall change of pace
Thanks for the info.. From: MichaelH To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 12:06:33 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Fall change of pace Yes. When I use the parks chain cleaner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Personally, I'd trade my Fargo right away for a Riv that could do all that I want the Fargo to do (ie, loaded touring and -- with fat wheelset) sandy trail riding with fenders, which means room for 65 mm tires + fenders + mud room) AND that has a road bike like fit, which the Fargo has -- 57 cm effective tt on my M. But the Fargo takes the fat tires with huge clearances to spare and the price was too good to pass up -- sub $1K for frame, parts, wheels, etc etc etc. I call it my Surrogate Rivendell or SurRiv for short. (Or RivGo. Or FarRiv. Or something.) Patrick Moore, who is riding his FarRiv today, as a matteroffact. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Garth wrote: > > > On Oct 22, 10:02 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> What about the ride ,,,? >> > > > The best part other than the ride that is:) > > The ride is fantastic as it is the best I've ever ridden. It's > not like I've ridden a hundred bikes though, so take it with a grain > of salt. > > If a Salsa Fargo like you bought would have fit me, I'd have bought a > frame or two. I'd love to be able to get a frame for $400! but > the 2cm. TT difference is insurmountable. I already use a 130mm stem > with Albatross bars on my Bombadil. I likely would have been just as > happy had it fit me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
On Oct 22, 10:02 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > What about the ride ,,,? > The best part other than the ride that is:) The ride is fantastic as it is the best I've ever ridden. It's not like I've ridden a hundred bikes though, so take it with a grain of salt. If a Salsa Fargo like you bought would have fit me, I'd have bought a frame or two. I'd love to be able to get a frame for $400! but the 2cm. TT difference is insurmountable. I already use a 130mm stem with Albatross bars on my Bombadil. I likely would have been just as happy had it fit me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall change of pace
Thanks for the tip, Michael I have been walking past my jug of mineral spririts for years, heading straight for my orange- whatchamacallit-cleaner... I'll give it a shot, although I'm sure I WILL miss the smell of a fresh, citris-soaked chain... BB On Oct 22, 1:06 pm, MichaelH wrote: > Yes. When I use the parks chain cleaner that I have I always use > mineral spirits. That's what works best. Mineral spirits will > evaporate off of the chain, whereas all other cleaners need to be > washed off, otherwise they will be removing the new lube too. So how > do you wash a chain in soap and water if its on the bike? Secondly > the mineral spirits simply out performs other cleaning agents, which > are fine for all the other jobs on the bike but less than great on > this, the dirtiest part. After using the spirits I pour it off into a > container and cover it tightly. The grit sinks to the bottom and I > can reuse the spirits many times. > > michael > > On Oct 22, 12:05 pm, Bruce wrote: > > > > > The care package from Nashbar came in yesterday and last night after work I > > got > > to work on some bike projects. After trying to convince myself that I > > liked an > > Ultegra 53/39 double on the Ram, I put the original RBW issue BB and Sugino > > triple (along with the 105 triple der) back on the bike. I had mis laid the > > crank bolts and ended up having to buy replacements. So now the lost one s > > will > > surely appear, right? While the Sugino was off the bike, I replaced the ring > > bolts with non rusting (and LIGHTER!) alloy units, and swapped out the > > stock 48 > > for a (heavier, ugh) 50 outer ring. I'll ride this weekend and decide if I > > can > > tell a difference and whether I like it. I'm pretty sure I'll look to > > re-home > > the Ultegra set though, regardless. I have a V-O BB on the shelf, but the > > original Shimano unit spun more smoothly in hand, so it went back in. > > > I also stripped the racks and fenders off the Saluki for the 1st time since > > I've > > owned the bike. Two years of Alabama summer swelter have drenched the > > honjos in > > salty sweat and they need serious cleaning, which is a lot easier to > > accomplish > > when they are off the bike. As it happens, I really like the stripped down > > look > > of the bike. With the Paul Neo-Retro brakes and GB Ourson tires, it has > > quite > > the fire road, almost CX manner to it. I can't wait to go find some > > adventurous > > dirt trail to check it out in. > > > I have a chain cleaner gizmo that has never seen use, and a can of mineral > > spirits that my wife bought for a project, but which has also never seen > > use. > > Anyone ever use the one in the other to clean chains? From what I read > > online, > > it should be workable.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: :) The end is near!
Jerry Kraynick likely has more New Old Stock Shimano 6 and 7 speed freewheels than everyone on this list can use in the next 25 years. http://www.panoramafactory.com/kraynick/index.html http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07316/833111-85.stm He has the inventory from many mom and pop shops that went out of business. Thanks, Sean --- On Fri, 10/22/10, Angus wrote: From: Angus Subject: [RBW] Re: :) The end is near! To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Friday, October 22, 2010, 1:33 PM I recently purchased a number of "newly produced" Shimano 6 & 7 speed freewheels from my LBS. The six speed FW on my Atlantis is working very well so far. The only odd thing about them was the white "Shimano" lettering on the large cog. The change from 7 speeds to 6 was almost not noticable. They were about $20 each. Perhaps I should burry a horde in the backyard Angus On Oct 21, 7:02 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Yes, fellow cyclists. The time approaches. The rumors have begun, of > course. You've read them here and elsewhere. Soon, more signs will > appear. The unusual "out-of-stock" labels will emerge at previously > reliable suppliers, as those not wishing to be caught with excess > inventory fail to purchase. Then the odd stalwart merchant will be > willing but unable to purchase, as the hoarders buy up product; more > out-of-stock captions will be seen. Then the early 'Bay-ers will sell, > with seemingly silly high reserves. Yet sell they will. Later, the > hoarders will let loose. The sales will be massive blowouts. They will > not last long. The late 'Bay-ers will try to ride the wave, buying and > selling like '90s day-traders. Then, nothing. Quiet stillness > descends. A small trickle will bubble forth, only to quickly become > erratic and scarce; only those "in-the-know" will have access. And > then, finally, we'll all realize what has come to pass... > > 8-pocalypse > > In the aftermath, the successful searcher will ride happily but > warily, trying not to draw attention to the chain's thickness, the > front derailer's width, the cogs' spacing. Such wariness will prove > unwarranted, however. soon the "market" will deem 8-speed equipment > not "inexpensive" but "cheap". Not "hearty", "heavy". Not "reliable", > "retro". Those that "have" need not worry; those that lack won't want. > > The faithful will proceed the way the 6-and-7-coggers, freewheelers, > and steerer-threaders did before them, wondering how to protect the > stash, researching the aging process of grease, asking "Is metal > fatigue a factor of actual use? Mere age?" And often paying boutique > prices for modest product. > > Oh well. At least this is the 21st century; we'll always have that > Great Support Group In The Sky, the Webbernet. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: :) The end is near!
I recently purchased a number of "newly produced" Shimano 6 & 7 speed freewheels from my LBS. The six speed FW on my Atlantis is working very well so far. The only odd thing about them was the white "Shimano" lettering on the large cog. The change from 7 speeds to 6 was almost not noticable. They were about $20 each. Perhaps I should burry a horde in the backyard Angus On Oct 21, 7:02 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Yes, fellow cyclists. The time approaches. The rumors have begun, of > course. You've read them here and elsewhere. Soon, more signs will > appear. The unusual "out-of-stock" labels will emerge at previously > reliable suppliers, as those not wishing to be caught with excess > inventory fail to purchase. Then the odd stalwart merchant will be > willing but unable to purchase, as the hoarders buy up product; more > out-of-stock captions will be seen. Then the early 'Bay-ers will sell, > with seemingly silly high reserves. Yet sell they will. Later, the > hoarders will let loose. The sales will be massive blowouts. They will > not last long. The late 'Bay-ers will try to ride the wave, buying and > selling like '90s day-traders. Then, nothing. Quiet stillness > descends. A small trickle will bubble forth, only to quickly become > erratic and scarce; only those "in-the-know" will have access. And > then, finally, we'll all realize what has come to pass... > > 8-pocalypse > > In the aftermath, the successful searcher will ride happily but > warily, trying not to draw attention to the chain's thickness, the > front derailer's width, the cogs' spacing. Such wariness will prove > unwarranted, however. soon the "market" will deem 8-speed equipment > not "inexpensive" but "cheap". Not "hearty", "heavy". Not "reliable", > "retro". Those that "have" need not worry; those that lack won't want. > > The faithful will proceed the way the 6-and-7-coggers, freewheelers, > and steerer-threaders did before them, wondering how to protect the > stash, researching the aging process of grease, asking "Is metal > fatigue a factor of actual use? Mere age?" And often paying boutique > prices for modest product. > > Oh well. At least this is the 21st century; we'll always have that > Great Support Group In The Sky, the Webbernet. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall change of pace
Yes. When I use the parks chain cleaner that I have I always use mineral spirits. That's what works best.Mineral spirits will evaporate off of the chain, whereas all other cleaners need to be washed off, otherwise they will be removing the new lube too. So how do you wash a chain in soap and water if its on the bike? Secondly the mineral spirits simply out performs other cleaning agents, which are fine for all the other jobs on the bike but less than great on this, the dirtiest part. After using the spirits I pour it off into a container and cover it tightly. The grit sinks to the bottom and I can reuse the spirits many times. michael On Oct 22, 12:05 pm, Bruce wrote: > The care package from Nashbar came in yesterday and last night after work I > got > to work on some bike projects. After trying to convince myself that I liked > an > Ultegra 53/39 double on the Ram, I put the original RBW issue BB and Sugino > triple (along with the 105 triple der) back on the bike. I had mis laid the > crank bolts and ended up having to buy replacements. So now the lost one s > will > surely appear, right? While the Sugino was off the bike, I replaced the ring > bolts with non rusting (and LIGHTER!) alloy units, and swapped out the stock > 48 > for a (heavier, ugh) 50 outer ring. I'll ride this weekend and decide if I can > tell a difference and whether I like it. I'm pretty sure I'll look to re-home > the Ultegra set though, regardless. I have a V-O BB on the shelf, but the > original Shimano unit spun more smoothly in hand, so it went back in. > > I also stripped the racks and fenders off the Saluki for the 1st time since > I've > owned the bike. Two years of Alabama summer swelter have drenched the honjos > in > salty sweat and they need serious cleaning, which is a lot easier to > accomplish > when they are off the bike. As it happens, I really like the stripped down > look > of the bike. With the Paul Neo-Retro brakes and GB Ourson tires, it has quite > the fire road, almost CX manner to it. I can't wait to go find some > adventurous > dirt trail to check it out in. > > I have a chain cleaner gizmo that has never seen use, and a can of mineral > spirits that my wife bought for a project, but which has also never seen use. > Anyone ever use the one in the other to clean chains? From what I read online, > it should be workable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: :) The end is near!
"What you identify with is all to do with content; whereas the unconscious compulsion to identify is structural. It is one of the most basic ways in which the egoic mind operates. Paradoxically, what keeps the so called consumer society going is the fact that trying to find yourself through things doesn't work: The ego satisfaction is short lived and so you keep looking for more, keep buying, keep consuming. ... No ego can last for long without the need for more. Therefore, wanting keeps the ego alive much more than having. The ego wants to want more than it wants to have. And so the shallow satisfaction of having is always replaced by more wanting. This is the psychological need for more, that is to say, more things to identify with. It is an addictive need, not an authentic one." Eckhardt Tolle. The New Earth. pp 36 & 46. Michael On Oct 21, 8:02 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Yes, fellow cyclists. The time approaches. The rumors have begun, of > course. You've read them here and elsewhere. Soon, more signs will > appear. The unusual "out-of-stock" labels will emerge at previously > reliable suppliers, as those not wishing to be caught with excess > inventory fail to purchase. Then the odd stalwart merchant will be > willing but unable to purchase, as the hoarders buy up product; more > out-of-stock captions will be seen. Then the early 'Bay-ers will sell, > with seemingly silly high reserves. Yet sell they will. Later, the > hoarders will let loose. The sales will be massive blowouts. They will > not last long. The late 'Bay-ers will try to ride the wave, buying and > selling like '90s day-traders. Then, nothing. Quiet stillness > descends. A small trickle will bubble forth, only to quickly become > erratic and scarce; only those "in-the-know" will have access. And > then, finally, we'll all realize what has come to pass... > > 8-pocalypse > > In the aftermath, the successful searcher will ride happily but > warily, trying not to draw attention to the chain's thickness, the > front derailer's width, the cogs' spacing. Such wariness will prove > unwarranted, however. soon the "market" will deem 8-speed equipment > not "inexpensive" but "cheap". Not "hearty", "heavy". Not "reliable", > "retro". Those that "have" need not worry; those that lack won't want. > > The faithful will proceed the way the 6-and-7-coggers, freewheelers, > and steerer-threaders did before them, wondering how to protect the > stash, researching the aging process of grease, asking "Is metal > fatigue a factor of actual use? Mere age?" And often paying boutique > prices for modest product. > > Oh well. At least this is the 21st century; we'll always have that > Great Support Group In The Sky, the Webbernet. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for front and rear lights to use with dyno hub
Hi All, Thank you for all the info and suggestions! Richard On Oct 19, 9:16 pm, amoll68 wrote: > I have the Edelux on two bikes, and think it's worth every penny. I > also have the IQ Cyo on another bike, and it's functionally quite > similar, but isn't as elegant. The B&M Seculite is my favorite > currently available fender mounted tail-light - and it has a built in > red reflector to comply with many state laws. > > Here's a pic: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/4222392955/in/set-721576229... > > I also supplement with flashers, front and rear, and have a helmet > mounted headlight. I'm pretty sure I'm more visible at night, than I > am during the day. > > Alex > (Commuting year-round in Marysville, WA) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: :) The end is near!
On Oct 21, 5:02 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Yes, fellow cyclists. The time approaches. The rumors have begun, of > course. You've read them here and elsewhere. Soon, more signs will > appear. The unusual "out-of-stock" labels will emerge at previously > reliable suppliers, as those not wishing to be caught with excess > inventory fail to purchase. Then the odd stalwart merchant will be > willing but unable to purchase, as the hoarders buy up product; more > out-of-stock captions will be seen. Then the early 'Bay-ers will sell, > with seemingly silly high reserves. Yet sell they will. Later, the > hoarders will let loose. The sales will be massive blowouts. They will > not last long. The late 'Bay-ers will try to ride the wave, buying and > selling like '90s day-traders. Then, nothing. Quiet stillness > descends. A small trickle will bubble forth, only to quickly become > erratic and scarce; only those "in-the-know" will have access. And > then, finally, we'll all realize what has come to pass... > > 8-pocalypse > > In the aftermath, the successful searcher will ride happily but > warily, trying not to draw attention to the chain's thickness, the > front derailer's width, the cogs' spacing. Such wariness will prove > unwarranted, however. soon the "market" will deem 8-speed equipment > not "inexpensive" but "cheap". Not "hearty", "heavy". Not "reliable", > "retro". Those that "have" need not worry; those that lack won't want. > > The faithful will proceed the way the 6-and-7-coggers, freewheelers, > and steerer-threaders did before them, wondering how to protect the > stash, researching the aging process of grease, asking "Is metal > fatigue a factor of actual use? Mere age?" And often paying boutique > prices for modest product. > > Oh well. At least this is the 21st century; we'll always have that > Great Support Group In The Sky, the Webbernet. > This is pretty funny, but oh so true! I'm alerting all of my buddies still using 8 speed to stock up NOW!! Thanks, Brewster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fall change of pace
The care package from Nashbar came in yesterday and last night after work I got to work on some bike projects. After trying to convince myself that I liked an Ultegra 53/39 double on the Ram, I put the original RBW issue BB and Sugino triple (along with the 105 triple der) back on the bike. I had mis laid the crank bolts and ended up having to buy replacements. So now the lost one s will surely appear, right? While the Sugino was off the bike, I replaced the ring bolts with non rusting (and LIGHTER!) alloy units, and swapped out the stock 48 for a (heavier, ugh) 50 outer ring. I'll ride this weekend and decide if I can tell a difference and whether I like it. I'm pretty sure I'll look to re-home the Ultegra set though, regardless. I have a V-O BB on the shelf, but the original Shimano unit spun more smoothly in hand, so it went back in. I also stripped the racks and fenders off the Saluki for the 1st time since I've owned the bike. Two years of Alabama summer swelter have drenched the honjos in salty sweat and they need serious cleaning, which is a lot easier to accomplish when they are off the bike. As it happens, I really like the stripped down look of the bike. With the Paul Neo-Retro brakes and GB Ourson tires, it has quite the fire road, almost CX manner to it. I can't wait to go find some adventurous dirt trail to check it out in. I have a chain cleaner gizmo that has never seen use, and a can of mineral spirits that my wife bought for a project, but which has also never seen use. Anyone ever use the one in the other to clean chains? From what I read online, it should be workable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Various Road Parts
I ended up breaking down the Surly Pacer build that I posted here previously and now I need to sell the remaining parts plus some extra stuff that I accumulated. Almost enough for a complete bike. Most parts are in very good to excellent condition. Email for photos and I'll also post a picasa link this weekend. Possible discounts for buying multiple items. Buyer pays actual shipping. If you think I'm off base with prices, contact me off list and I can reconsider. Front Derailleurs: Shimano 600 Arabesque (Double) $15.00 Shimano Ultegra FD-6503 (Triple) $35.00 Rear Derailleurs: Shimano Ultegra RD-6500 (Short cage) $55.00 Shimano 105 RD-5500 (8-9 speed compatible, Long cage) $40.00 Headset/Stem/Handlebars: VO Grand Cru 1 1/8" $40.00 VO Stem, 6 Degree, 26mm, 80mm $30.00 Nitto Noodle 177 44 cm $45.00 Wheelset: Mavic Open Pro/Ultegra Hubs Wheelset $185.00 Cassette: Shimano CS-5600 12/27 10 Speed $45.00 Shifters/Levers: Shimano Dura-Ace ST-7703 (3x9) $150.00 Campagnolo non aero brake levers with Gum hoods (need replacing), don't know exact model $30 obo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] :) The end is near!
Yes, fellow cyclists. The time approaches. The rumors have begun, of course. You've read them here and elsewhere. Soon, more signs will appear. The unusual "out-of-stock" labels will emerge at previously reliable suppliers, as those not wishing to be caught with excess inventory fail to purchase. Then the odd stalwart merchant will be willing but unable to purchase, as the hoarders buy up product; more out-of-stock captions will be seen. Then the early 'Bay-ers will sell, with seemingly silly high reserves. Yet sell they will. Later, the hoarders will let loose. The sales will be massive blowouts. They will not last long. The late 'Bay-ers will try to ride the wave, buying and selling like '90s day-traders. Then, nothing. Quiet stillness descends. A small trickle will bubble forth, only to quickly become erratic and scarce; only those "in-the-know" will have access. And then, finally, we'll all realize what has come to pass... 8-pocalypse In the aftermath, the successful searcher will ride happily but warily, trying not to draw attention to the chain's thickness, the front derailer's width, the cogs' spacing. Such wariness will prove unwarranted, however. soon the "market" will deem 8-speed equipment not "inexpensive" but "cheap". Not "hearty", "heavy". Not "reliable", "retro". Those that "have" need not worry; those that lack won't want. The faithful will proceed the way the 6-and-7-coggers, freewheelers, and steerer-threaders did before them, wondering how to protect the stash, researching the aging process of grease, asking "Is metal fatigue a factor of actual use? Mere age?" And often paying boutique prices for modest product. Oh well. At least this is the 21st century; we'll always have that Great Support Group In The Sky, the Webbernet. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: different cockpits on one frame
Also some new text, and a link to those pictures within the page. Now version 3. http://tiny.cc/h1p8s Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 17, 9:51 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > new Noodles cockpit pictures > > http://tinyurl.com/2fjvpr2 > > More pictures with differentcockpitsover time. > > A bike in full. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Gamoh Rack
Sold. On Oct 21, 8:43 pm, A D wrote: > Got this for my Birthday from my kids and sad to see it go. I sold > the bike that this was mounted on when the SimpleOne Prototype came > up. > > Mounted once and never used. It's been sitting in the closet waiting > for a good home. The kids understand that I have to let it go. > > $85 Shipped CONUS. > > Thanks for looking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
On Oct 22, 10:02 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > What about the ride ,,,? > It planes; a spring/mass feedback loop, the omega-naught parameter (undamped natural frequency) being in perfect resonance with the rider's cadence, of course. > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Garth wrote: > > > The best part of the current Bomba for me is its super easy to carry > > when I need to, and I can mount it on my workstand on the middle TT, > > making it easier to work on. > > > The diagonal tube will negate all that. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
What about the ride ,,,? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Garth wrote: > > The best part of the current Bomba for me is its super easy to carry > when I need to, and I can mount it on my workstand on the middle TT, > making it easier to work on. > > The diagonal tube will negate all that. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
The best part of the current Bomba for me is its super easy to carry when I need to, and I can mount it on my workstand on the middle TT, making it easier to work on. The diagonal tube will negate all that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
I like the old parallel-tube design myself. I hope they stay with 650b as well. I ride mine everywhere On Oct 22, 6:17 am, EricP wrote: > Well, do like the Bombanew better than the Hunqa. But that was hashed > out on this list long ago. Appears am the only one who did not like > the design. > > But appears I offended too many folks by stating that. So since them > am trying to keep my lip zipped. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Oct 22, 12:26 am, James Warren wrote: > > > I, on the other hand, never considered a Bombadil until I saw the new > > diagonal one. I'm considering selling the Atlantis to make room. > > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > > > (Disclaimer of personal bias): I am a very satisfied owner of a twin- > > > TT Bombadil. > > > I've had time to let this settle in my brain, as well as a chance to > > > actually see it in person. In fact, this is the same color as my > > > Bombadil, and component-wise it's close, so it offers a very fair > > > visual comparison. (Other disclaimer: I did NOT ride this, so I cannot > > > speak to the quality of the ride). From a purely visual perspective > > > I'm sorry to say it just doesn't work for me... at all. And in my > > > humble (if not outspoken) opinion this design to a large degree robs > > > the bike of its aesthetic appeal... (I realize this may sound > > > offensive, but I feel the need to be brutally honest, especially since > > > I am so passionate about Rivendell bikes). In fact, I implore the > > > creative minds at Riv to please go BACK to the old design. > > > I marvel (daily) at the sheer beauty of my Bombadil. Others marvel at > > > it. With this change the Bombadil has lost its dazzle, I'm afraid. > > > Apologies to the creative minds at Riv and to those who see beauty and > > > dazzle in this (very bold and brave) design; I certainly mean no > > > disrespect, and I trust you welcome a variety of opinion. Thx, BB > > > > On Oct 21, 1:11 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > > >> Here's a poor shot of a new one built > > >> up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ > > > >> Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do > > >> best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. > > > >> jim m > > > >> On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: > > > >>> Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that > > >>> runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or > > >>> leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text > > > - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Well, do like the Bombanew better than the Hunqa. But that was hashed out on this list long ago. Appears am the only one who did not like the design. But appears I offended too many folks by stating that. So since them am trying to keep my lip zipped. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 22, 12:26 am, James Warren wrote: > I, on the other hand, never considered a Bombadil until I saw the new > diagonal one. I'm considering selling the Atlantis to make room. > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > > > > (Disclaimer of personal bias): I am a very satisfied owner of a twin- > > TT Bombadil. > > I've had time to let this settle in my brain, as well as a chance to > > actually see it in person. In fact, this is the same color as my > > Bombadil, and component-wise it's close, so it offers a very fair > > visual comparison. (Other disclaimer: I did NOT ride this, so I cannot > > speak to the quality of the ride). From a purely visual perspective > > I'm sorry to say it just doesn't work for me... at all. And in my > > humble (if not outspoken) opinion this design to a large degree robs > > the bike of its aesthetic appeal... (I realize this may sound > > offensive, but I feel the need to be brutally honest, especially since > > I am so passionate about Rivendell bikes). In fact, I implore the > > creative minds at Riv to please go BACK to the old design. > > I marvel (daily) at the sheer beauty of my Bombadil. Others marvel at > > it. With this change the Bombadil has lost its dazzle, I'm afraid. > > Apologies to the creative minds at Riv and to those who see beauty and > > dazzle in this (very bold and brave) design; I certainly mean no > > disrespect, and I trust you welcome a variety of opinion. Thx, BB > > > On Oct 21, 1:11 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > >> Here's a poor shot of a new one built > >> up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ > > >> Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do > >> best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. > > >> jim m > > >> On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: > > >>> Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that > >>> runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or > >>> leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
