[RBW] 52 rambouillet taking 26" wheels...can it be converted to 650b?
i already have a 53 riv atlantis which takes 26" wheels, have my eye on a blue rambo in 52 that due to size also takes 26 rimshowever i was thinking it'd be nice to switch things around and do it 650b stylewould this be doable in your opinions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] NOS romulus.
completely killing me: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/protovelo-frameset-specials/53-004 I already have a rom or I would probably pick it up. and just for the record, I would like to volunteer to help riv do a thorough inventory, personally. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell Ribbit Brakes
Does anyone have experience with these. A shop near me has a unopened set from a few years ago and I'm thinking of getting them for my incoming Simpleone. They are no toe-in adjustment brakes. I'd love to hear from anyone who has used them. THanks, Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SFR Populaire Reminder
Any south bayer attending this ride? I'll rather bum a ride there (and possibly Caltrain back) than leave my wife carless for most of Saturday. I'm close to 85 and El Camino and will need either a rear rack or a full-bike (i.e., don't have to remove front wheel) roof rack, owing to my fenders. Thanks in advance. B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
Yes, that's a really smart choice. There aren't many options in 26" drop bar bikes. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Justin August wrote: > Scott (the bloggist formerly known as LFoaB) bought his daughter a tiny > Long Haul Trucker. She rides more miles than most of us on it! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MJNennk_IIMJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
Scott (the bloggist formerly known as LFoaB) bought his daughter a tiny Long Haul Trucker. She rides more miles than most of us on it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MJNennk_IIMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: On cork and shellac...
Yes On Jun 20, 12:34 pm, Jack Warman wrote: > If I put on some cork grips and shellac them Thursday night, will they be > dry enough to ride early Saturday morning? How about if the shellac'ing > were Wednesday night? > > Pimping my Xootr, > Jack > > -- > Jack Warman > Durham, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
I've found older Trek 220 models to be pretty good. Heavy as all get out though. Other than that, real good bikes! http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:33 PM, numbnuts wrote: > Specialized older steel stuff is a great choice. My son has a bunch of > miles on a 24" wheeled Hardrock converted to a 1x7 with a chain guard > and guide plus better brakes, brake levers, shifter, saddle, and other > stuff. Norco also built a bunch of steel 24" wheeled bikes, along with > others. Our bikes for the homeless shop has some that could be had for > cheapexcept for shipping, of course. > > All the best, > Chris > > On Jun 23, 7:56 am, James Warren wrote: > > I don't have kids, so I'm only guessing, but how would something like > this be? > > > > http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52916&scid=10... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
I can still want it to happen, though. Even if it's not likely and even if I couldn't afford it. On Jun 23, 3:28 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, William wrote: > > Taking it back to the Original Post: What bike(s) would you like to > > see Riv implement in the future? > > > The one I'm shocked nobody brought up (or maybe it's because we've all > > said it so much that it needs no more saying) was the Riv Tandem. > > Last year when riv made the "if you want a custom do it now" request, > I emailed and said I'd put down a deposit on a tandem right now if > they'd be willing to do it. > > I got a reply back that said they would love to do it but wouldn't > feel right taking a deposit on something that isn't even on the > horizon nor likely to be anytime soon. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Urban Cycling Chic
My nicest italian dress shoes are GREAT for cycling. CHIC! On Jun 23, 3:10 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > I say it's chic. And a lot of times, biking in those shoes is way way > easier than walking in them. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jim Cloud wrote: > > The RBW Owners Bunch may not be the target audience, but I thought > > this on-line article from MSNBC might be of interest anyhow... > >http://thelook.today.com/_news/2011/06/23/6812780-biking-in-heels-a-d... > > > Whatever gets people out on their bikes is a good thing, from my > > perspective! > > > Jim Cloud > > Tucson, AZ > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, William wrote: > Taking it back to the Original Post: What bike(s) would you like to > see Riv implement in the future? > > The one I'm shocked nobody brought up (or maybe it's because we've all > said it so much that it needs no more saying) was the Riv Tandem. > Last year when riv made the "if you want a custom do it now" request, I emailed and said I'd put down a deposit on a tandem right now if they'd be willing to do it. I got a reply back that said they would love to do it but wouldn't feel right taking a deposit on something that isn't even on the horizon nor likely to be anytime soon. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Urban Cycling Chic
I say it's chic. And a lot of times, biking in those shoes is way way easier than walking in them. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jim Cloud wrote: > The RBW Owners Bunch may not be the target audience, but I thought > this on-line article from MSNBC might be of interest anyhow... > http://thelook.today.com/_news/2011/06/23/6812780-biking-in-heels-a-do-or-a-dont > > Whatever gets people out on their bikes is a good thing, from my > perspective! > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Taking it back to the Original Post: What bike(s) would you like to see Riv implement in the future? The one I'm shocked nobody brought up (or maybe it's because we've all said it so much that it needs no more saying) was the Riv Tandem. On Jun 20, 3:33 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > While we're on the subject of guessing what the new Rivendell is, I'd > like to offer up my own "gosh, I wish they would do this" bike. > > I'd like a 26-inch-wheel City Bike with an IGH, dynohub, and drum > brakes. Preferably butterscotch color. > > Joe "I like dreamin" Bernard > Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
Specialized older steel stuff is a great choice. My son has a bunch of miles on a 24" wheeled Hardrock converted to a 1x7 with a chain guard and guide plus better brakes, brake levers, shifter, saddle, and other stuff. Norco also built a bunch of steel 24" wheeled bikes, along with others. Our bikes for the homeless shop has some that could be had for cheapexcept for shipping, of course. All the best, Chris On Jun 23, 7:56 am, James Warren wrote: > I don't have kids, so I'm only guessing, but how would something like this be? > > http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52916&scid=10... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Thumbies vs BEs
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:20 -0700, MichaelH wrote: > The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, > and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar > before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I > end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and > we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. I can shift left and right bar end shifters simultaneously, using both hands, holding on to the bar ends themselves. Are you saying you can only shift one hand at a time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: Need advice on hauling lots of bikes
When we've done bike transport for our club, we figure each nested pair of bikes takes about 2' x 6' of floor space in a van. We've never run out of room. Matching larger & smaller bikes helps. For instance, a big bike with drop bars nests well with a small frame flat bar bike. dougP On Jun 23, 1:03 pm, Sean Whelan wrote: > I second that. > > The heel -to - toe, back of the truck, cardboard between bikes approach > mentioned below was employed by the organizers of the 2007 London to Paris > (http://www.londres-paris.com) when we took the train back to London and they > brought our bikes back from Paris. > > Seems like a fine enough approach. > > Sean > > > From: CycloFiend > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 1:53:33 PM > Subject: Re: [RBW] OT: Need advice on hauling lots of bikes > > Simplest method is upright, direction-switched "heel to toe" with a thick > moving blanket between them. I'd probably remove the pedals, as that's what > tends to bite into the frames and gouge stuff. > > We used to run built bikes from the warehouse out to the shops (anywhere > from 1-2 hours by freeway) in the back of a delivery truck (Iveco-type) with > only bike box cardboard between them. I think we could do up to 40 bikes > before having to lay any on top. That worked 99% of the time without > scratches. > > I would expect a smaller rental box van would work fine. Be mindful of > wedging them or bungie-ing them in place so they don't move during > accellerations and stops. > > Hope that helps > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > "'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary > handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: > not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles." > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW > Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
James, Occasionally, I can manage to do something right :) You're right, tho', she really is happy w/ it; has made a nice replacement for the last one she outgrew... David, I understand, and yes, her Trek does have a suspension fork; but, otherwise, it was okay... (not a Riv, but, suitable for her growing- stage...). On Jun 23, 1:01 pm, James Warren wrote: > Expression on child's face says you did well! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
John, that's awesome. She'll treasure that, and pass it down to her kids. Wow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
Expression on child's face says you did well! -Original Message- >From: Leslie >Sent: Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids) > >I just replied over in the other thread (didn't realize this one had >spun off); > >Instead of a true kids' bike, I went with the smallest ladies MTB bike >for my 9-yr-old daughter; it dodged the 'kids-size' wheels, has >regular 26" MTB wheels on it, is big enough that I can raise the >seatpost and ride it myself, but with it all the way down, she can >easily handle it. > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5840945443/in/photostream/ > >I'd have loved to have seen her riding a Riv kids' bike instead; even >considered a Betty Foy, but, that's a bit more than I'd want to spend >on something that might get outgrown > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
I like the idea of a small 26er, but they're still hard to find w/out a sus fork. Specialized looks nice, thanks for the link! On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Leslie wrote: > I just replied over in the other thread (didn't realize this one had > spun off); > > Instead of a true kids' bike, I went with the smallest ladies MTB bike > for my 9-yr-old daughter; it dodged the 'kids-size' wheels, has > regular 26" MTB wheels on it, is big enough that I can raise the > seatpost and ride it myself, but with it all the way down, she can > easily handle it. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5840945443/in/photostream/ > > I'd have loved to have seen her riding a Riv kids' bike instead; even > considered a Betty Foy, but, that's a bit more than I'd want to spend > on something that might get outgrown > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OT: Need advice on hauling lots of bikes
I second that. The heel -to - toe, back of the truck, cardboard between bikes approach mentioned below was employed by the organizers of the 2007 London to Paris (http://www.londres-paris.com) when we took the train back to London and they brought our bikes back from Paris. Seems like a fine enough approach. Sean From: CycloFiend To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 1:53:33 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] OT: Need advice on hauling lots of bikes Simplest method is upright, direction-switched "heel to toe" with a thick moving blanket between them. I'd probably remove the pedals, as that's what tends to bite into the frames and gouge stuff. We used to run built bikes from the warehouse out to the shops (anywhere from 1-2 hours by freeway) in the back of a delivery truck (Iveco-type) with only bike box cardboard between them. I think we could do up to 40 bikes before having to lay any on top. That worked 99% of the time without scratches. I would expect a smaller rental box van would work fine. Be mindful of wedging them or bungie-ing them in place so they don't move during accellerations and stops. Hope that helps - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles." -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs
That is so fantastic! Thanks for sharing it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jUr643FgcXwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
I like the Berthoud Touring, for rides up to about 50-60 miles. For those longer rides, the B17 just shines. The Berthoud is flatter than the B17 across the top. I have my Berthoud set up just slightly nose up. All my bikes are handlebar height equal to or up to inch below saddle height. I tried a Swift for awhile, but never found it near as comfortable as the other two saddles It was OK for short rides say up to 30 miles. My son likes it on his single speed. Its a bit strange to me that my bike tastes are trickling down to my sons; strange but flattering. Then again I lose re-saleable items such as lightly used Swifts. On Jun 23, 10:51 am, Minh wrote: > Man, i really need to spend more seat time in my new berthoud saddle, > my b17 is just so much more comfortable, i do indeed feel like the > berthoud is floating while the b17 feels like i'm sinking into it. > > anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud? it's still > pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long > ride... > > On Jun 23, 10:09 am, rperks wrote: > > > > > Compared to my B17 and the short stint with a SA, the Bertoud floats > > between your thighs. The long nose is there to help with steering, > > but narrow to bring any rub to a screeching halt. For me the SA was > > the polar opposite, no matter where I had the tension the more > > triangular shape and skirt edges tore up the back and inside of my > > thighs. Saddls are so personal and a serious investment for most of > > us to experiment with, but when you find the right one for you it can > > be fantastic. Good luck on your quest, the only thing harder than > > finding the right saddle for you is helping your spouse find one > > > Rob > > > On Jun 23, 6:59 am, MichaelH wrote: > > > > Thanks for the posting, I found it interesting. I use both the early > > > Selle Anatomica, which is a bit narrower than the current offering, > > > and a B17 and like them both very much. My wife, on the other hand, > > > has never found a saddle she likes. They all seem to chafe on the > > > inside parts. From your pictures the Berthoud nose seems to get > > > narrower faster and I wonder if that would work better for her. > > > > michael > > > > On Jun 23, 9:30 am, rperks wrote: > > > > > I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade > > > > with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you. While I was playing > > > > musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some > > > > pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The > > > > Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time > > > > on my bicycle rotation. Detailed post with pictures here: > > > > >http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql > > > > orhttp://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swi... > > > > > Bottom line, all three are great saddles. The B17 is my go to saddle > > > > for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt > > > > upright. The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide enough > > > > to support, but all excess material is out of the way. Likewise it > > > > has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and > > > > thousands of miles. The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken > > > > in. It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles. > > > > Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really > > > > good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but > > > > there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a > > > > bit. > > > > > Rob > > > > -http://oceanaircycles.com/-Hidequoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Urban Cycling Chic
The RBW Owners Bunch may not be the target audience, but I thought this on-line article from MSNBC might be of interest anyhow... http://thelook.today.com/_news/2011/06/23/6812780-biking-in-heels-a-do-or-a-dont Whatever gets people out on their bikes is a good thing, from my perspective! Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
I don't have kids, so I'm only guessing, but how would something like this be? http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52916&scid=1005&scname=Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Populaire Reminder
Ouch, no BART at that hour?!? Any other EastBayBobs plan on attending? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 6/23/11, CycloFiend wrote: > on 6/23/11 11:01 AM, Lee Chae at leec...@stanford.edu wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM, CycloFiend >> wrote: >>> Just one more reminder to anyone in the greater SF Bay Area who wants to >>> join in on the San Francisco Randonneurs Summer Populaire - runs from the >>> GG >>> Bridge up to Pt Reyes Station, covering 71-ish miles. >>> >>> You can preregister via Paypal (reg is $5) via the SFRandonneurs.org site >>> until Friday evening. Otherwise, registeration starts at 7 am. >> >> Just a quick heads-up that the ride start time has changed to 7 am, >> and registration now begins at 6 am, which is a good reason to >> register online. ;) > > YIKES! Thanks for the heads-up - I was going off the early text and the > listing on the shared calendar, which showed it as a later start. > > Roger that Start Time at 7 AM! Reg time starts at 6 am. > > Thanks Lee! > > - J > > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs
I gotta share this here. My buddy is a framebuilder and hooked me up with a sweet kid bike for my 8 yo daughter last Chrismass. The connection which really makes this Riv-related, is that the donor frame for the tube set came from a 89 RB-1. http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/search/label/maddie%20xmass%20bike On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Leslie wrote: > How funny that the conversation turned this way... > > Just a couple of months ago, I was shopping for a new bike for my > daughter, and I'd sent a similar note to Grant, saying it'd be > interesting to see his 'expanded sizing' ideas used for a kids bike. > > Then recently, Yehuda's had his 'grow bike' idea in the strip. > > I'd have loved to have gotten a Riv for my daughter, but alas, went > more conventional... > > http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/sport/skye/skye/# > > Got her the smallest size. It's a nice bike, since it's a women's > bike instead of a kids' bike, it has 26" wheels instead of kids > wheels. She'd turned 9 just before, and has been loving it > http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5840945443/in/photostream/ > . > > But if I could have gotten a Riv 'kids' frame for her instead, that > would have been really lovely. A small Betty Foy might have worked, > but, I didn't want to spend *that* much on a bike that could possibly > get outgrown; this bike, it'll last her until she is grown (even I > can ride it), and then she can get a 'grown-up bike' at that point. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
I just replied over in the other thread (didn't realize this one had spun off); Instead of a true kids' bike, I went with the smallest ladies MTB bike for my 9-yr-old daughter; it dodged the 'kids-size' wheels, has regular 26" MTB wheels on it, is big enough that I can raise the seatpost and ride it myself, but with it all the way down, she can easily handle it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5840945443/in/photostream/ I'd have loved to have seen her riding a Riv kids' bike instead; even considered a Betty Foy, but, that's a bit more than I'd want to spend on something that might get outgrown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
How funny that the conversation turned this way... Just a couple of months ago, I was shopping for a new bike for my daughter, and I'd sent a similar note to Grant, saying it'd be interesting to see his 'expanded sizing' ideas used for a kids bike. Then recently, Yehuda's had his 'grow bike' idea in the strip. I'd have loved to have gotten a Riv for my daughter, but alas, went more conventional... http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/sport/skye/skye/# Got her the smallest size. It's a nice bike, since it's a women's bike instead of a kids' bike, it has 26" wheels instead of kids wheels. She'd turned 9 just before, and has been loving it http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5840945443/in/photostream/ . But if I could have gotten a Riv 'kids' frame for her instead, that would have been really lovely. A small Betty Foy might have worked, but, I didn't want to spend *that* much on a bike that could possibly get outgrown; this bike, it'll last her until she is grown (even I can ride it), and then she can get a 'grown-up bike' at that point. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SFR Populaire Reminder
Yikes. I was planning to do a bike camping trip up mission peak that evening. Maybe I can squeezed this one in7.5 hours I think I can do that. On Jun 23, 11:01 am, Lee Chae wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > > Just one more reminder to anyone in the greater SF Bay Area who wants to > > join in on the San Francisco Randonneurs Summer Populaire - runs from the GG > > Bridge up to Pt Reyes Station, covering 71-ish miles. > > > You can preregister via Paypal (reg is $5) via the SFRandonneurs.org site > > until Friday evening. Otherwise, registeration starts at 7 am. > > Just a quick heads-up that the ride start time has changed to 7 am, > and registration now begins at 6 am, which is a good reason to > register online. ;) > > I'll be riding an off-topic, but historically related bike. I had > considered the QB for a few seconds, but I have really been lacking > the miles as of late. One of my riding bud's will be on her > kinda-new-to-her Bleriot, which was formerly known as Gino's Bleriot. > And, it'll be her first ride surpassing the half-century mark. > > Hope to see some of you out there on your nice Rivs! > > Lee > SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Populaire Reminder
on 6/23/11 11:01 AM, Lee Chae at leec...@stanford.edu wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM, CycloFiend wrote: >> Just one more reminder to anyone in the greater SF Bay Area who wants to >> join in on the San Francisco Randonneurs Summer Populaire - runs from the GG >> Bridge up to Pt Reyes Station, covering 71-ish miles. >> >> You can preregister via Paypal (reg is $5) via the SFRandonneurs.org site >> until Friday evening. Otherwise, registeration starts at 7 am. > > Just a quick heads-up that the ride start time has changed to 7 am, > and registration now begins at 6 am, which is a good reason to > register online. ;) YIKES! Thanks for the heads-up - I was going off the early text and the listing on the shared calendar, which showed it as a later start. Roger that Start Time at 7 AM! Reg time starts at 6 am. Thanks Lee! - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Populaire Reminder
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > Just one more reminder to anyone in the greater SF Bay Area who wants to > join in on the San Francisco Randonneurs Summer Populaire - runs from the GG > Bridge up to Pt Reyes Station, covering 71-ish miles. > > You can preregister via Paypal (reg is $5) via the SFRandonneurs.org site > until Friday evening. Otherwise, registeration starts at 7 am. Just a quick heads-up that the ride start time has changed to 7 am, and registration now begins at 6 am, which is a good reason to register online. ;) I'll be riding an off-topic, but historically related bike. I had considered the QB for a few seconds, but I have really been lacking the miles as of late. One of my riding bud's will be on her kinda-new-to-her Bleriot, which was formerly known as Gino's Bleriot. And, it'll be her first ride surpassing the half-century mark. Hope to see some of you out there on your nice Rivs! Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)
James, I was going to pipe in that specialized has had some really nice kids bike (mixed in with not so nice ones) over the last 10 years. I would recommend checking them out along with the Kona ones. Tarik > > I don't have kids, so I'm only guessing, but how would something like this be? > > > http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52916&scid=1005&scname=Kids > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Seems to me Schwinn (and maybe Huffy, etc) made a pretty good line of kid's bikes back in the day. By LBS as a kid was a stand-alone Schwinn dealer. They later added other brands, or course, but my friends and I all got Stingrays (and Varsitys and LeTours) from that shop. The problem is that mass market kids bikes are made to look like shrunken adult bikes, complete with suspension, too many gears, etc. There wasn't really an "adult" version of the Stingray! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GZdNtB0S1cIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OT: Need advice on hauling lots of bikes
Simplest method is upright, direction-switched "heel to toe" with a thick moving blanket between them. I'd probably remove the pedals, as that's what tends to bite into the frames and gouge stuff. We used to run built bikes from the warehouse out to the shops (anywhere from 1-2 hours by freeway) in the back of a delivery truck (Iveco-type) with only bike box cardboard between them. I think we could do up to 40 bikes before having to lay any on top. That worked 99% of the time without scratches. I would expect a smaller rental box van would work fine. Be mindful of wedging them or bungie-ing them in place so they don't move during accellerations and stops. Hope that helps - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles." -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs
I use DA bar end friction shifters on our tandem without hardly any problems. Make sure that you have the bars high enough to be comfortable for long periods in the drops. How many teeth on your chainrings? We use (8sp) 53-42-30 x 11-32 and spend most of our time in the 42t. When preparing for hills i do a double shift to get in the correct front chainring while maintaining our cadence. We also try to crush it on the downhills to carry our momentum up the next hill; this takes off the pressure and gives me some time to get in the correct climbing gear. Also, try a rapid rise rear mech. I haven't trying brifters on our tandem, but if i did, I'd use campy ergo 10sp to shimano 8sp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-KM5xxT4svQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SFR Populaire Reminder
Hey there - Just one more reminder to anyone in the greater SF Bay Area who wants to join in on the San Francisco Randonneurs Summer Populaire - runs from the GG Bridge up to Pt Reyes Station, covering 71-ish miles. You can preregister via Paypal (reg is $5) via the SFRandonneurs.org site until Friday evening. Otherwise, registeration starts at 7 am. SFR Populaire 115k WhenSaturday, Jun 25, 2011 WhereGolden Gate Bridge (Strauss statue) (map) DescriptionThe San Francisco Randonneurs Populaire. Checkin will begin at 7:00 am at the South end of the Golden Gate Bride by Strauss Statue with the ride starting at 8:00 am. The Populaire is 115 km in length (71 miles) and has a time limit of 7.5 hours. The Populaire is intended to introduce riders to the sport of randonneuring. Most of our brevets are 200km in length, but the Populaire is slightly more than half that length. Registration form and more details at http://sfrandonneurs.org Not sure which bike is going to get the nod - QB needs a scrubbing and new brake pads, so the Hilsen may be the ride. Decisions, decisions... ;^) - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me." -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
I thought the Berthoud Touring was "THE ONE" til I did a 600K on it. It became unbearable after 300 miles. I think it's just a bit too narrow for me, especially once fatigue sets in and more weight gets supported by my butt rather than my legs. Back to the B17 for me, at least for long rides. I wish Berthoud would make a b17 copy since their quality and design (easy to dismantle and replace individual bits) is vastly superior, IMO. Cheers, Ryan On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:19, Lee Chae wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Minh wrote: >> anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud? it's still >> pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long >> ride... > > I have a B-17 Special on my Quickbeam and a Berthoud Aspin (touring > model) on my multi-geared bike. Both have a similar drop of about 2 cm > from the saddle to the bars. I find that I have to position the > Berthoud saddle a little more level than I do the B-17, which has the > typical nose-tilted-up set-up. FWIW, both saddles feel comfortable, > though different, to me. > > Best, > Lee > SF, CA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HS
I think the new bike will have creative and beautiful seat stays here- to-for never seen. liesl minneapolis (and the family where John Blish's spectacular 58 Quickbeam went) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Green 58 QuickBeam
The Quickbeam has joined my family as my partner's 50th birthday present. The bike is stunning and in stunning shape. John is a true gentleman; if he sells more from his stable, run don't walk. Cheers, John! liesl On Jun 22, 10:33 pm, John Blish wrote: > Thank you, Joe. You got it exactly right. > > My wife has a beautiful 54 orange Rambouillet, by the way. She is not down > on bikes but she knows too many when she sees it. > > John > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Joseph Hogg wrote: > > Congratulations, John. Happy Wife, Happy Life. > > > Joe > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, John Blish wrote: > > >> Thank you, everyone, for your interest. > > >> The 58 QuickBeam has been sold locally and could not have possibly gone to > >> a better home. I am as happy as I can be that it worked out this way. > > >> Marital harmony has been restored in my house. > > >> To those who emailed me, my sincere thanks and good luck in your > >> bike-hunting and riding. > > >> John > > >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:14 AM, John Blish wrote: > > >>> I am original owner. It has never spent a night outside or been parked > >>> with other bikes in any kind of a rack. It is always inside (basement) in > >>> the winter. Only used on pavement. > > >>> It once had SKS silver plastic fenders and two large Nitto racks on it. > >>> For that see photo #33 and also see: > > >>>http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/58Kogswell/?action=view&curre...) > > >>> It was never used to transport more than a typical commuting load and was > >>> only used for commuting a few times and always parked inside carpeted > >>> locker > >>> room for commute. The rear rack was mostly just to keep the Carradice off > >>> the rear wheel / fender. I have ridden it fixed but only 5 - 6 miles. > >>> Total mileage is about 1,000; I really don't know for certain. > > >>> Bike can be seen at: > > >>>https://picasaweb.google.com/jblish/Rivendell58QuickBeamForSale > > >>> I found 2 small paint chips on the right fork blade, shown in the last > >>> picture. I do not know how that occurred. There are no dings or dents. > > >>> Saddle has an abrasion on right rear which can be seen in next to the > >>> last photo. > > >>> I am offering bike with copper-railed BRG Brooks B17 Special, silver > >>> Salsa Shaft two-bolt seat post, 18 tooth Dura Ace track cog mounted on the > >>> flip-flop hub and MKS Sylvan Road pedals - all shown on bike. It does not > >>> come with any rack or bag or speedometer or bell or pump. > > >>> Asking $1175.00 for that complete package, ready to ride, plus actual > >>> shipping. If you use PayPal please plan to pay half the fee of roughly 3% > >>> that will be charged to me; buyer's share will be about $18. Check or > >>> money > >>> order also works fine. I will wait for it to clear. > > >>> I like this bike a lot. I am getting rid of it to maintain marital > >>> harmony. To that extent, it pretty much has to go; I am finally dead up > >>> against the No More Bikes In Until One Goes Out Unilateral Mandate, with > >>> which some of you are familiar. I have skated by that without observing > >>> it > >>> two times recently and that won't work again without a penalty that I > >>> don't > >>> want to experience. > > >>> Bike will go to eBay if it doesn't sell here and I don't want to mess > >>> with that so I am motivated seller. > > >>> Any questions or comments or requests for information or more photos of > >>> specific parts, just let me know. You may call me if you wish - email for > >>> phone number. > > >>> Thanks for looking. > > >>> John > > >>> -- > >>> John Blish > >>> Minneapolis MN USA > > >> -- > >> John Blish > >> Minneapolis MN USA > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "internet-bob" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob?hl=en. > > -- > John Blish > Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs
"Go to the Dark Side, Luke.": Brifters. On Jun 23, 9:20 am, MichaelH wrote: > I am considering a switch to thumbies on our tandem. I am finding the > BEs too slow on the tandem for the kind of rolling hills of Vt, which > require a lot of fast, double shifts to attack hills that often swing > from minus to plus 10%. The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, > and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar > before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I > end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and > we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. > > Does anyone have any experience going from one to the other on a road > bike, that they can share. I suppose the other option is to ride more > on the drops, where I can reach the shifters faster. > > Michael > Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1982 Footage, RAAM (including Lon)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Minh wrote: > anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud? it's still > pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long > ride... I have a B-17 Special on my Quickbeam and a Berthoud Aspin (touring model) on my multi-geared bike. Both have a similar drop of about 2 cm from the saddle to the bars. I find that I have to position the Berthoud saddle a little more level than I do the B-17, which has the typical nose-tilted-up set-up. FWIW, both saddles feel comfortable, though different, to me. Best, Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OT: Need advice on hauling lots of bikes
Hi everyone, I am planning an event where I will need to haul 16 bikes to a site for a ride and need some advice on just how to do that. I was thinking of renting a moving van, truck, or trailer. The questions that come to mind are: (1) how big a van, truck, or trailer will I need?; and (2) what's the best way to secure and protect the bikes from damage during transport? The bikes will be a mix of flat bar road bikes, city/commuter bikes and a few road bikes, if that makes a difference in the discussion. Also, they will all be built up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
I have a Swift, and really like. More than the Team Pro which I just couldn't work with. The Swift seems to have a flatter top, which compliments someone used to a B17. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Minh wrote: > Man, i really need to spend more seat time in my new berthoud saddle, > my b17 is just so much more comfortable, i do indeed feel like the > berthoud is floating while the b17 feels like i'm sinking into it. > > anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud? it's still > pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long > ride... > > On Jun 23, 10:09 am, rperks wrote: > > Compared to my B17 and the short stint with a SA, the Bertoud floats > > between your thighs. The long nose is there to help with steering, > > but narrow to bring any rub to a screeching halt. For me the SA was > > the polar opposite, no matter where I had the tension the more > > triangular shape and skirt edges tore up the back and inside of my > > thighs. Saddls are so personal and a serious investment for most of > > us to experiment with, but when you find the right one for you it can > > be fantastic. Good luck on your quest, the only thing harder than > > finding the right saddle for you is helping your spouse find one > > > > Rob > > > > On Jun 23, 6:59 am, MichaelH wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the posting, I found it interesting. I use both the early > > > Selle Anatomica, which is a bit narrower than the current offering, > > > and a B17 and like them both very much. My wife, on the other hand, > > > has never found a saddle she likes. They all seem to chafe on the > > > inside parts. From your pictures the Berthoud nose seems to get > > > narrower faster and I wonder if that would work better for her. > > > > > michael > > > > > On Jun 23, 9:30 am, rperks wrote: > > > > > > I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade > > > > with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you. While I was playing > > > > musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some > > > > pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The > > > > Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time > > > > on my bicycle rotation. Detailed post with pictures here: > > > > > >http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql > > > > orhttp:// > oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swi... > > > > > > Bottom line, all three are great saddles. The B17 is my go to saddle > > > > for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt > > > > upright. The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide > enough > > > > to support, but all excess material is out of the way. Likewise it > > > > has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and > > > > thousands of miles. The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken > > > > in. It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles. > > > > Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really > > > > good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but > > > > there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a > > > > bit. > > > > > > Rob > > > > -http://oceanaircycles.com/-Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Yes, that is a GREAT bike! No, we don't have anything like them here. All the majors have a few kid bikes, but they are tremendously heavy (my kid's 24" Trek MTB weights 30lbs, the same as my Surly 29er!) and not elegant in the least (clunky sus, cheap components). The only other option is a 24" Redline Conquest 24" which I also have. It weighs 20lbs and is a very nice bike. But those are just singletons, not a whole company dedicated to kid's cycling. That is a glaring hole in the market, and I think someone could move into that niche and be the NA distributor or that Islabikes itself should move into the NA market directly. I don't think Riv should do it, that's not their mission. QBP might be able to pull it off as they seem to let their partners run with things (Surly, Salsa). But unless it happens soon, my kids won't be able to take advantage of it!!! Report back on the bike when it comes in :-) On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Damian wrote: > I just ordered an Islabike Beinn 24" for my daughter. > > It was so refreshing to find a company that takes children's bikes > seriously and doesn't just lazily try to shrink an adult's bike and > imagine that that will do the job. > > Children's bodies have different relative dimensions and kids bikes so > often fit really poorly and weigh a ton that they're just not much fun > for the kids to ride. Also, they all have suspension as mentioned > earlier which is even more useless for kids than adults and just adds > to the weight of the bike. They also have 18 gears that are unneeded > and not understood. Drives me nuts! not to mention the terrible > quality of all the components. Urrrgh! > > I'm so looking forward to getting it it's ridiculous! Definitely much > more excited about it than she is! Racks! Mudguards (fenders)! > Propstand! Yes!! > > There must be an equivalent for you guys in NA. > > Damian > > On Jun 23, 4:31 am, cyclotourist wrote: > > I hear ya' on the lack of kid bike options. If you don't know about > them, > > Islabike in the UK is a great resource. Unfortunately, they don't have a > NA > > distributor, so shipping is prohibitive from the UK. So email 'em and > > encourage them to get one post haste (that's the way they talk there, be > > sure to pepper your email with it)!!! > > > > http://www.islabikes.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, lukemcg wrote: > > > Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love > > > to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really > > > awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain > > > bikes with too many gears. > > > > > Too much emphasisnon the wrong things. > > > > > Luke > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > probably benefit more from > > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
Man, i really need to spend more seat time in my new berthoud saddle, my b17 is just so much more comfortable, i do indeed feel like the berthoud is floating while the b17 feels like i'm sinking into it. anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud? it's still pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long ride... On Jun 23, 10:09 am, rperks wrote: > Compared to my B17 and the short stint with a SA, the Bertoud floats > between your thighs. The long nose is there to help with steering, > but narrow to bring any rub to a screeching halt. For me the SA was > the polar opposite, no matter where I had the tension the more > triangular shape and skirt edges tore up the back and inside of my > thighs. Saddls are so personal and a serious investment for most of > us to experiment with, but when you find the right one for you it can > be fantastic. Good luck on your quest, the only thing harder than > finding the right saddle for you is helping your spouse find one > > Rob > > On Jun 23, 6:59 am, MichaelH wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the posting, I found it interesting. I use both the early > > Selle Anatomica, which is a bit narrower than the current offering, > > and a B17 and like them both very much. My wife, on the other hand, > > has never found a saddle she likes. They all seem to chafe on the > > inside parts. From your pictures the Berthoud nose seems to get > > narrower faster and I wonder if that would work better for her. > > > michael > > > On Jun 23, 9:30 am, rperks wrote: > > > > I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade > > > with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you. While I was playing > > > musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some > > > pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The > > > Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time > > > on my bicycle rotation. Detailed post with pictures here: > > > >http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql > > > orhttp://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swi... > > > > Bottom line, all three are great saddles. The B17 is my go to saddle > > > for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt > > > upright. The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide enough > > > to support, but all excess material is out of the way. Likewise it > > > has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and > > > thousands of miles. The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken > > > in. It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles. > > > Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really > > > good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but > > > there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a > > > bit. > > > > Rob > > > -http://oceanaircycles.com/-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Folding would be nice. Although there was a Bromptom around RBWHQ at one time, I believe. (Wasn't it in a Reader?) The one I'd love straight gauge tubing, one bottle mount on the downtube, maybe hi-ten stays if cheaper, semi-horizontal dropouts. With slightly shorter chainstays than the Atlantis or Hillborne and maybe a skosh higher bottom bracket. Think the old "sport touring" bike with clearances for much wider tires, like 40s w/fenders on 700C, single speed or geared. To me, that would make a great utility/commuting/anything type of bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 23, 10:57 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > For me, it would be a Riv folding bike, preferably with 26in wheel... > This so I could take my Riv on the train (and stick it to the > bureacrats at Amtrak). > > BB > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs
My only experience switching shifters is in the context of switching bars (roughly rotating through a set of four setups). Moustache bars make it easier to ride on the "drops". I love the bar- ends there. It's at least as fast for shifting as the thumbies on my Albatross and Bullmoose bars. My Noodles have thumbies near the stem on the top. I find them available but not as easy to operate as any of my other set ups. The angle of attack feels wrong. But I also haven't spent as much time with my Noodles, so I've always been in transition to a certain extent. Also, I have the Nitto F15/BarSack arrangement on my Noodles, which does clutter up the area a little. No real problems. Just not as easy or open as my other bars. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jun 23, 8:20 am, MichaelH wrote: > I am considering a switch to thumbies on our tandem. I am finding the > BEs too slow on the tandem for the kind of rolling hills of Vt, which > require a lot of fast, double shifts to attack hills that often swing > from minus to plus 10%. The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, > and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar > before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I > end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and > we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. > > Does anyone have any experience going from one to the other on a road > bike, that they can share. I suppose the other option is to ride more > on the drops, where I can reach the shifters faster. > > Michael > Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
For me, it would be a Riv folding bike, preferably with 26in wheel... This so I could take my Riv on the train (and stick it to the bureacrats at Amtrak). BB On Jun 23, 7:06 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Far south of $600 for a complete bike? Sounds too good to be true. > Really. And maybe isn't what you meant? If it is what you meant, then > I'd consider buying one on the theory that it would be at least as > good as any $300 complete bike option I have. And I'd feel more > comfortable with where it was made (presumably Taiwan and under > satisfactory conditions). And it probably would have graphics I and my > child could both like. And I expect it would actually look like a > bike, with round tubes and normal-ish tires and no suspension. And > it'd fit fenders and racks and bags. And it'd be lugged! :) > > Far south of $600 for a frameset? I can *imagine* it being true. > Taiwan-made, substantially less profit. Maybe? Surely the actual mass > of frame tubing doesn't explain too much of the retail price of a > bike. So that $400+ difference between a SimpleOne frameset's price > and a kid's bike frameset's price would be mostly from a profit > difference, right? > > Well...if it were an RBW product, sold soup-to-nuts with the > enthusiasm and passion and involvement and dedication that Mr. > Petersen and crew attach to the standard RBW bike line, then I could > see spending that kind of money for a frameset and expecting not to be > disappointed. > > If, however, it were something other than that (a new brand, a "Grant- > designed" bike, a joint marketing venture, etc.), it'd take a *lot* of > work (probably more work than has taken place in the universe to date) > to convince me it'd have the same reliability, versatility, durability > and comfort I'd expect from today's RBW bikes. And, for that kind of > money, that's what I'd want my child to have: the full RBW package. > The $300 complete bike is "good enough" and doesn't guarantee a > downgrade if it ever needs replacing at your own expense. (Would you > pay for the *second* $600 frameset?) > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On Jun 23, 2:25 am, Brian Hanson wrote: > > > > > Interesting that this topic came up. I was talking about this very thing > > with Grant last week on a quick visit to HQ. He indicated that he has > > thought through this quite a bit, and he said he felt he would have to keep > > the price way down to avoid it being a bike that rich parents buy their kids > > because they (the parents) want an exclusive bike. He mentioned a price > > point far south of $600, BTW. Said it would have to be steel an lugged, but > > it would be a challenge to design as he couldn't ride it, and he hasn't ever > > done "kid bike design". > > > I think it would be super cool, but I would really wonder if this would be > > anything other than a non-profit exercise. I can see a market for nice kid > > bikes - but perhaps for another startup bike maker? I think Riv may be > > better off focusing on its core competencies. There seems to be more and > > more folks into Grant's non-racing velosophy - why muddy the focus of his > > small shop with a new audience. There may be more risk from a litigation > > standpoint when kids are involved. > > > Now that I've said that, I could see a Riv design that improved on the Big > > Dummy and maybe created something that was tandem-able so kids could ride > > along? Sort of a longer Bombadil with an extra seat? He has the diagatube > > down... > > > Brian > > Seattle > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:31 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > > > > I hear ya' on the lack of kid bike options. If you don't know about them, > > > Islabike in the UK is a great resource. Unfortunately, they don't have a > > > NA > > > distributor, so shipping is prohibitive from the UK. So email 'em and > > > encourage them to get one post haste (that's the way they talk there, be > > > sure to pepper your email with it)!!! > > > >http://www.islabikes.co.uk/ > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, lukemcg wrote: > > > >> Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love > > >> to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really > > >> awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain > > >> bikes with too many gears. > > > >> Too much emphasisnon the wrong things. > > > >> Luke > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA > > > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > > probably benefit more from > > > improving their taste tha
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Hah add it to the questionnaire as part of prenatal planning... Things you can begin planning for NOW... - Will you and your wife be planning to send your son/daughter to college? - Will you and your wife be planning a custom Vanilla bicycle for your son/daughter's 5th birthday? On Jun 22, 7:24 pm, William wrote: > Is it just a coincidence that Sasha White thinks it will be good for 5 > years, and the waiting list for a Vanilla is also 5 years? :) > > On Jun 22, 4:08 pm, Peter Pesce wrote: > > > > > Sasha White did a kid's bike - 26" wheels with a low saddle and really cool > > look. He thought it was good for 5 years - age 7 -12. > > Very Riv-ish > > IMHO.http://bikeportland.org/2011/02/26/a-bike-for-kids-from-sacha-white-o...- > > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
I just ordered an Islabike Beinn 24" for my daughter. It was so refreshing to find a company that takes children's bikes seriously and doesn't just lazily try to shrink an adult's bike and imagine that that will do the job. Children's bodies have different relative dimensions and kids bikes so often fit really poorly and weigh a ton that they're just not much fun for the kids to ride. Also, they all have suspension as mentioned earlier which is even more useless for kids than adults and just adds to the weight of the bike. They also have 18 gears that are unneeded and not understood. Drives me nuts! not to mention the terrible quality of all the components. Urrrgh! I'm so looking forward to getting it it's ridiculous! Definitely much more excited about it than she is! Racks! Mudguards (fenders)! Propstand! Yes!! There must be an equivalent for you guys in NA. Damian On Jun 23, 4:31 am, cyclotourist wrote: > I hear ya' on the lack of kid bike options. If you don't know about them, > Islabike in the UK is a great resource. Unfortunately, they don't have a NA > distributor, so shipping is prohibitive from the UK. So email 'em and > encourage them to get one post haste (that's the way they talk there, be > sure to pepper your email with it)!!! > > http://www.islabikes.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, lukemcg wrote: > > Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love > > to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really > > awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain > > bikes with too many gears. > > > Too much emphasisnon the wrong things. > > > Luke > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: HS
Right! lugged this bike: http://www.tariksaleh.com/bike/flashy/flashy.html On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Ginz wrote: > Great idea. The photoshoppers are now hard at work adding triple diag- > a-tubes, invert-a-tubes and xris-xross-tubes! > > > On Jun 22, 4:24 am, charlie wrote: >> Just have a cobbled together gag bike made up to freak everyone out >> withthen reveal the actual bicycle. But the gag bike has to work >> and you must ride it. Maybe a clown bike or something like that would >> be fun. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs
My favorite feature of BE's on long rides is the ability to shift while holding a water bottle. You drink, you're swallowing, you want more, so you want to keep the bottle in your hand, but the grade changes, and you need to shift in between drinks while still holding the water bottle. However, this is just a tangential comment, because I guess you could do the same with thumbshifters. -Original Message- >From: Dave Craig >Sent: Jun 23, 2011 8:06 AM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs > >I do have experience with this change-including changes made to the >same bikes and my stable of bikes with DT shifters, BE's, brifters >and thumbies. > >There's no magic bullet. The issue is one of technique and >anticipation. On my touring bike, the closest approximation I have to >your situation with the tandem, my strategy for rolling hills is to >downshift just before or in the "valleys" then coast until I can spin >comfortably up the hill. On a loaded tourer, momentum is lost quickly. >I imagine the situation is the same on a tandem. At the top of the >hill, if I'm not simply going to coast down the other side, I upshift. >I seldom go into the big ring. This isn't racing technique, but it >works just fine for casual riding. > >I've found my preference for touring to be barend shifters. My left >thumb got really sore using thumbies on my last, long tour. > > > > > >On Jun 23, 6:20 am, MichaelH wrote: >> I am considering a switch to thumbies on our tandem. I am finding the >> BEs too slow on the tandem for the kind of rolling hills of Vt, which >> require a lot of fast, double shifts to attack hills that often swing >> from minus to plus 10%. The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, >> and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar >> before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I >> end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and >> we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. >> >> Does anyone have any experience going from one to the other on a road >> bike, that they can share. I suppose the other option is to ride more >> on the drops, where I can reach the shifters faster. >> >> Michael >> Westford, Vt > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thumbies vs BEs
I do have experience with this change-including changes made to the same bikes and my stable of bikes with DT shifters, BE's, brifters and thumbies. There's no magic bullet. The issue is one of technique and anticipation. On my touring bike, the closest approximation I have to your situation with the tandem, my strategy for rolling hills is to downshift just before or in the "valleys" then coast until I can spin comfortably up the hill. On a loaded tourer, momentum is lost quickly. I imagine the situation is the same on a tandem. At the top of the hill, if I'm not simply going to coast down the other side, I upshift. I seldom go into the big ring. This isn't racing technique, but it works just fine for casual riding. I've found my preference for touring to be barend shifters. My left thumb got really sore using thumbies on my last, long tour. On Jun 23, 6:20 am, MichaelH wrote: > I am considering a switch to thumbies on our tandem. I am finding the > BEs too slow on the tandem for the kind of rolling hills of Vt, which > require a lot of fast, double shifts to attack hills that often swing > from minus to plus 10%. The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, > and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar > before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I > end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and > we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. > > Does anyone have any experience going from one to the other on a road > bike, that they can share. I suppose the other option is to ride more > on the drops, where I can reach the shifters faster. > > Michael > Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
Compared to my B17 and the short stint with a SA, the Bertoud floats between your thighs. The long nose is there to help with steering, but narrow to bring any rub to a screeching halt. For me the SA was the polar opposite, no matter where I had the tension the more triangular shape and skirt edges tore up the back and inside of my thighs. Saddls are so personal and a serious investment for most of us to experiment with, but when you find the right one for you it can be fantastic. Good luck on your quest, the only thing harder than finding the right saddle for you is helping your spouse find one Rob On Jun 23, 6:59 am, MichaelH wrote: > Thanks for the posting, I found it interesting. I use both the early > Selle Anatomica, which is a bit narrower than the current offering, > and a B17 and like them both very much. My wife, on the other hand, > has never found a saddle she likes. They all seem to chafe on the > inside parts. From your pictures the Berthoud nose seems to get > narrower faster and I wonder if that would work better for her. > > michael > > On Jun 23, 9:30 am, rperks wrote: > > > > > I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade > > with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you. While I was playing > > musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some > > pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The > > Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time > > on my bicycle rotation. Detailed post with pictures here: > > >http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql > > orhttp://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swi... > > > Bottom line, all three are great saddles. The B17 is my go to saddle > > for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt > > upright. The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide enough > > to support, but all excess material is out of the way. Likewise it > > has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and > > thousands of miles. The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken > > in. It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles. > > Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really > > good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but > > there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a > > bit. > > > Rob > > -http://oceanaircycles.com/- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
Thanks for the posting, I found it interesting. I use both the early Selle Anatomica, which is a bit narrower than the current offering, and a B17 and like them both very much. My wife, on the other hand, has never found a saddle she likes. They all seem to chafe on the inside parts. From your pictures the Berthoud nose seems to get narrower faster and I wonder if that would work better for her. michael On Jun 23, 9:30 am, rperks wrote: > I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade > with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you. While I was playing > musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some > pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The > Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time > on my bicycle rotation. Detailed post with pictures here: > > http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql > orhttp://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swi... > > Bottom line, all three are great saddles. The B17 is my go to saddle > for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt > upright. The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide enough > to support, but all excess material is out of the way. Likewise it > has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and > thousands of miles. The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken > in. It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles. > Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really > good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but > there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a > bit. > > Rob > -http://oceanaircycles.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Saddle Comparison - Brooks B17, Swift and Berthoud Touring
I was lucky enough to have a semi-surplus Brooks B17 on hand to trade with Brad (jinxed) for his Swift - thank you. While I was playing musical chairs with the saddles in the stable I decided to take some pictures and measurements comparing my three saddles of choice. The Brooks B17, now a Swift and Berthoud Touring all have seen some time on my bicycle rotation. Detailed post with pictures here: http://wp.me/p19mfs-ql or http://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/23/saddle-comparison-brooks-b17-swift-and-berthoud-touring/ Bottom line, all three are great saddles. The B17 is my go to saddle for bars at saddle height all the way to albatross and sitting bolt upright. The berthoud is my Goldilocks saddle, it is just wide enough to support, but all excess material is out of the way. Likewise it has proven light, durable and waterproof over the last two years and thousands of miles. The Swift being new and firm needs to be broken in. It will reside on my roadeo for a bit as it sees the most miles. Initial impressions after a couple 20 something mile rides is really good, similar to the berthoud it suports you where you need it, but there is nothing left to get in the way when you are bent forward a bit. Rob - http://oceanaircycles.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Thumbies vs BEs
I am considering a switch to thumbies on our tandem. I am finding the BEs too slow on the tandem for the kind of rolling hills of Vt, which require a lot of fast, double shifts to attack hills that often swing from minus to plus 10%. The long cables, long rear derailleur cage, and the need to move each separately from the shifter back to the bar before I can reach for the other shifter causes too much delay and I end up with too much pressure to drop the chain, or I shift early and we end up spinning wildly, or even dropping the chain all together. Does anyone have any experience going from one to the other on a road bike, that they can share. I suppose the other option is to ride more on the drops, where I can reach the shifters faster. Michael Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HS
Great idea. The photoshoppers are now hard at work adding triple diag- a-tubes, invert-a-tubes and xris-xross-tubes! On Jun 22, 4:24 am, charlie wrote: > Just have a cobbled together gag bike made up to freak everyone out > withthen reveal the actual bicycle. But the gag bike has to work > and you must ride it. Maybe a clown bike or something like that would > be fun. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Far south of $600 for a complete bike? Sounds too good to be true. Really. And maybe isn't what you meant? If it is what you meant, then I'd consider buying one on the theory that it would be at least as good as any $300 complete bike option I have. And I'd feel more comfortable with where it was made (presumably Taiwan and under satisfactory conditions). And it probably would have graphics I and my child could both like. And I expect it would actually look like a bike, with round tubes and normal-ish tires and no suspension. And it'd fit fenders and racks and bags. And it'd be lugged! :) Far south of $600 for a frameset? I can *imagine* it being true. Taiwan-made, substantially less profit. Maybe? Surely the actual mass of frame tubing doesn't explain too much of the retail price of a bike. So that $400+ difference between a SimpleOne frameset's price and a kid's bike frameset's price would be mostly from a profit difference, right? Well...if it were an RBW product, sold soup-to-nuts with the enthusiasm and passion and involvement and dedication that Mr. Petersen and crew attach to the standard RBW bike line, then I could see spending that kind of money for a frameset and expecting not to be disappointed. If, however, it were something other than that (a new brand, a "Grant- designed" bike, a joint marketing venture, etc.), it'd take a *lot* of work (probably more work than has taken place in the universe to date) to convince me it'd have the same reliability, versatility, durability and comfort I'd expect from today's RBW bikes. And, for that kind of money, that's what I'd want my child to have: the full RBW package. The $300 complete bike is "good enough" and doesn't guarantee a downgrade if it ever needs replacing at your own expense. (Would you pay for the *second* $600 frameset?) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jun 23, 2:25 am, Brian Hanson wrote: > Interesting that this topic came up. I was talking about this very thing > with Grant last week on a quick visit to HQ. He indicated that he has > thought through this quite a bit, and he said he felt he would have to keep > the price way down to avoid it being a bike that rich parents buy their kids > because they (the parents) want an exclusive bike. He mentioned a price > point far south of $600, BTW. Said it would have to be steel an lugged, but > it would be a challenge to design as he couldn't ride it, and he hasn't ever > done "kid bike design". > > I think it would be super cool, but I would really wonder if this would be > anything other than a non-profit exercise. I can see a market for nice kid > bikes - but perhaps for another startup bike maker? I think Riv may be > better off focusing on its core competencies. There seems to be more and > more folks into Grant's non-racing velosophy - why muddy the focus of his > small shop with a new audience. There may be more risk from a litigation > standpoint when kids are involved. > > Now that I've said that, I could see a Riv design that improved on the Big > Dummy and maybe created something that was tandem-able so kids could ride > along? Sort of a longer Bombadil with an extra seat? He has the diagatube > down... > > Brian > Seattle > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:31 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > > > > > I hear ya' on the lack of kid bike options. If you don't know about them, > > Islabike in the UK is a great resource. Unfortunately, they don't have a NA > > distributor, so shipping is prohibitive from the UK. So email 'em and > > encourage them to get one post haste (that's the way they talk there, be > > sure to pepper your email with it)!!! > > >http://www.islabikes.co.uk/ > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, lukemcg wrote: > > >> Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love > >> to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really > >> awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain > >> bikes with too many gears. > > >> Too much emphasisnon the wrong things. > > >> Luke > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > probably benefit more from > > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at >
[RBW] Re: HS
My goodness, I finally figured it out. I can't believe it took me this long! Voila! It's a scooter bike. On Jun 21, 8:09 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > I may be too late, but just in case, I filled out the form anyway. > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:52 PM, William wrote: > > If you look on ebay for HammerSchmidt cranksets there are silver ones > > as well...at least the arms. Sounds plausible. > > > On Jun 20, 8:50 pm, Montclair BobbyB > > wrote: > >> Hopefully they'll be first sent to Nitto for "resurfacing"... > > >> On Jun 20, 11:48 pm, doug peterson wrote: > > >> > It's plausible. 22 or 24T chainring with 1:1 or 1.6:1 ratio. So you > >> > get a granny in 1:1 and the equivalent of a 35 or 38T ring in the > >> > overdrive. But IMHO the grey or black or whatever doesn't really look > >> > like it belongs on a Riv. Maybe it looks better in person than in the > >> > photo? > > >> > dougP > > >> > On Jun 20, 5:22 pm, Montclair BobbyB > >> > wrote: > > >> > > OK folks... HERE is the solution to HS (And thanks Esteban for > >> > > giving me a clue)... It stands for Hammerschmidt... it's a 2-speed > >> > > crankset developed by SRAM (similar to the Schlumpf) with a built-in > >> > > transmission (in the crank). It obviates the need for a front > >> > > derailleur. The question is whether this will be an all-out front AND > >> > > rear internal transmission bike... I say yes, it will. > > >> > > OK, everyone can watch reality TV once again, I'm spent > > >> > > Peace, > >> > > BB > > >> > > On Jun 20, 7:47 pm, Roger wrote: > > >> > > > "I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed. Is the shifter indexed or > >> > > > just > >> > > > the hub?" > > >> > > > The SA 8-speed hub isn't indexed, but it definitely wants to be > >> > > > centered into each gear without much feedback. Supposedly Sheldon > >> > > > Brown could do it, but like 99% of the things Sheldon could do, it > >> > > > was > >> > > > beyond my skills. I miss Sheldon. > > >> > > > Part of the allure of the thumbshifter (which would be about equal > >> > > > with a barend shifter) was that I used the wheel/cable/shifter setup > >> > > > as a self-contained module that I could have on or off of my single > >> > > > speed bike in a couple of minutes with nothing but 2 or 3 zipties for > >> > > > the cable and tightening the shifter clamp on the bar. Except for the > >> > > > constant "is it in or out of gear" fiddliness and ker-chunking out of > >> > > > gear under load it was great. I'd like a clamp-on downtube shifter > >> > > > best of all for this concept. > > >> > > > On Jun 20, 2:53 pm, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > > >> > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Roger > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > " It would be very cool if they also made a real shifter for the > >> > > > > > Rohloff. I'm not in the market for a new bike but I'd be very, > >> > > > > > very > >> > > > > > happy to get a bar end shifter that was setup to handle the extra > >> > > > > > throw required by the Rohloff! I'd ditch that damned twist > >> > > > > > shifter in > >> > > > > > a split second." > > >> > > > > > I feel the same way about the SA 8-speed I have and its twist > >> > > > > > shifter. > > >> > > > > I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed. Is the shifter indexed or > >> > > > > just > >> > > > > the hub? The silly thing about not offering a bar-end or similar > >> > > > > for > >> > > > > the Rohloff is that the shifter has no indexing - it's all handled > >> > > > > at > >> > > > > the hub - so the only issues are the dual cable setup (easy enough) > >> > > > > and pulling enough cable (more work but doable.) > > >> > > > > -Ken- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs
Interesting that this topic came up. I was talking about this very thing with Grant last week on a quick visit to HQ. He indicated that he has thought through this quite a bit, and he said he felt he would have to keep the price way down to avoid it being a bike that rich parents buy their kids because they (the parents) want an exclusive bike. He mentioned a price point far south of $600, BTW. Said it would have to be steel an lugged, but it would be a challenge to design as he couldn't ride it, and he hasn't ever done "kid bike design". I think it would be super cool, but I would really wonder if this would be anything other than a non-profit exercise. I can see a market for nice kid bikes - but perhaps for another startup bike maker? I think Riv may be better off focusing on its core competencies. There seems to be more and more folks into Grant's non-racing velosophy - why muddy the focus of his small shop with a new audience. There may be more risk from a litigation standpoint when kids are involved. Now that I've said that, I could see a Riv design that improved on the Big Dummy and maybe created something that was tandem-able so kids could ride along? Sort of a longer Bombadil with an extra seat? He has the diagatube down... Brian Seattle On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:31 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > I hear ya' on the lack of kid bike options. If you don't know about them, > Islabike in the UK is a great resource. Unfortunately, they don't have a NA > distributor, so shipping is prohibitive from the UK. So email 'em and > encourage them to get one post haste (that's the way they talk there, be > sure to pepper your email with it)!!! > > http://www.islabikes.co.uk/ > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, lukemcg wrote: > >> Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love >> to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really >> awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain >> bikes with too many gears. >> >> Too much emphasisnon the wrong things. >> >> Luke >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
