Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW
I'm in. Greg J- #3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UlxzK8Kbq90J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW
#2 (though I certainly didn't sign up second)-Anne On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:47 PM, René Sterental wrote: > I don't know if we've reached the maximum of 8 for the campsite I reserved. > > It would be good to do a roll call and keep count. I'm sure we can easily > reserve another campsite if needed or even do it on the spot. I don't think > they fill out. > > Reminder, this is for an S24O on Mt. Diablo for the evening of Saturday, > September 24. All levels of experience welcome. I'm a total newbie and a slow > rider. > > I'll start the roll call; add yourselves in sequence: > > #1- René S. > > > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > > On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Stephen S wrote: > >> I am interested in going, I haven't done any s24o yet but have read the >> stuff on the site and other links. Is there room still or do we need to get >> a second camp site going? >> >> Stephen >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eVJixYbsV-4J. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riding around Seattle
Thanks! I've downloaded several great maps on my Maplets app. I'll check the Bike shops if I can. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:42 PM, boomer wrote: > You can download a great map of Seattle bike trails here, > > http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/bikemaps.htm > > There's also a free Seattle bike map app for ipad, itouch, and iphone. > > You can pick up the actual map at almost any bike shop (free). Since > you're staying near Gasworks Park, > ask around for the bike shop in an area called Fremont, which is very > close to the park. This one bike shop in > Fremont (I forget the name), carries Riv stuff. There is also > Recycled Cycle near the UW campus. It's such a great > map that I use it in the car, too. > > You'll be near or right on the Burke-Gilman bike trail which is a > major bike artery for Seattle. You should > have no problems exploring the city on you own. > > Have fun. The weather will be perfect for you. Sun doesn't set until > after 7:30. > > On Sep 10, 7:19 pm, René Sterental wrote: >> I'm traveling to Seattle tomorrow to take a week long course at the >> University of Washington. I'm bringing my Bike Friday Llama with the heavy >> upgrade with me and plan to explore the city on the bike trails tomorrow >> afternoon, and then ride mostt likely Tuesday, Wednesday and/or Friday >> evenings after 5:00 PM when I'm out of the lectures. I'm flying back home on >> Saturday afternoon, so with careful planning, I should be able to ride early >> on Saturday morning and be back in the hotel around 10:00 AM so I have time >> to pack the bike in its suitcase (it takes me about 50 minutes to ensure it >> really tight and won't come apart if the TSA agents lift it out), shower and >> leave for the airport around 12:30PM. >> >> If anyone on this list feels like showing me around at an easy Rivendell >> pace, I'd be delighted. While I have no Rivendell parts on my Bike Friday, >> it's running 20" Big Apples and a new Berthoud Touring saddle. I may even >> wear my new Rivendell T-shirt... :-) >> >> If you'd like to join me, e-mail off-list so we can exchange contact >> information. My hotel is very close to the UWA and the Gasworks Park. >> >> René > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW
I don't know if we've reached the maximum of 8 for the campsite I reserved. It would be good to do a roll call and keep count. I'm sure we can easily reserve another campsite if needed or even do it on the spot. I don't think they fill out. Reminder, this is for an S24O on Mt. Diablo for the evening of Saturday, September 24. All levels of experience welcome. I'm a total newbie and a slow rider. I'll start the roll call; add yourselves in sequence: #1- René S. Sent from my iPhone 4 On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Stephen S wrote: I am interested in going, I haven't done any s24o yet but have read the stuff on the site and other links. Is there room still or do we need to get a second camp site going? Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eVJixYbsV-4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW
I am interested in going, I haven't done any s24o yet but have read the stuff on the site and other links. Is there room still or do we need to get a second camp site going? Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eVJixYbsV-4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding around Seattle
You can download a great map of Seattle bike trails here, http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/bikemaps.htm There's also a free Seattle bike map app for ipad, itouch, and iphone. You can pick up the actual map at almost any bike shop (free). Since you're staying near Gasworks Park, ask around for the bike shop in an area called Fremont, which is very close to the park. This one bike shop in Fremont (I forget the name), carries Riv stuff. There is also Recycled Cycle near the UW campus. It's such a great map that I use it in the car, too. You'll be near or right on the Burke-Gilman bike trail which is a major bike artery for Seattle. You should have no problems exploring the city on you own. Have fun. The weather will be perfect for you. Sun doesn't set until after 7:30. On Sep 10, 7:19 pm, René Sterental wrote: > I'm traveling to Seattle tomorrow to take a week long course at the > University of Washington. I'm bringing my Bike Friday Llama with the heavy > upgrade with me and plan to explore the city on the bike trails tomorrow > afternoon, and then ride mostt likely Tuesday, Wednesday and/or Friday > evenings after 5:00 PM when I'm out of the lectures. I'm flying back home on > Saturday afternoon, so with careful planning, I should be able to ride early > on Saturday morning and be back in the hotel around 10:00 AM so I have time > to pack the bike in its suitcase (it takes me about 50 minutes to ensure it > really tight and won't come apart if the TSA agents lift it out), shower and > leave for the airport around 12:30PM. > > If anyone on this list feels like showing me around at an easy Rivendell > pace, I'd be delighted. While I have no Rivendell parts on my Bike Friday, > it's running 20" Big Apples and a new Berthoud Touring saddle. I may even > wear my new Rivendell T-shirt... :-) > > If you'd like to join me, e-mail off-list so we can exchange contact > information. My hotel is very close to the UWA and the Gasworks Park. > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riding around Seattle
I'm traveling to Seattle tomorrow to take a week long course at the University of Washington. I'm bringing my Bike Friday Llama with the heavy upgrade with me and plan to explore the city on the bike trails tomorrow afternoon, and then ride mostt likely Tuesday, Wednesday and/or Friday evenings after 5:00 PM when I'm out of the lectures. I'm flying back home on Saturday afternoon, so with careful planning, I should be able to ride early on Saturday morning and be back in the hotel around 10:00 AM so I have time to pack the bike in its suitcase (it takes me about 50 minutes to ensure it really tight and won't come apart if the TSA agents lift it out), shower and leave for the airport around 12:30PM. If anyone on this list feels like showing me around at an easy Rivendell pace, I'd be delighted. While I have no Rivendell parts on my Bike Friday, it's running 20" Big Apples and a new Berthoud Touring saddle. I may even wear my new Rivendell T-shirt... :-) If you'd like to join me, e-mail off-list so we can exchange contact information. My hotel is very close to the UWA and the Gasworks Park. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Okay then that's a little different at six foot plus your PBH is slightly on the long side (I assume this was measured in socks) with feet at pedal width? Given that, it sounds as if your torso is maybe on the shorter side and perhaps arm reach also. If your shoulders are narrower coupled with the other factors you may indeed need that shorter stem. Keep in mind if you raise the bar on a stem riser the bar moves back toward you so you may in fact need a longer stem.it just depends though. Your current stem may be just fine. get a stem riser and try sliding the bars/stem higher. Once you find your sweet spot you can always decide if you want a new fork but pay attention to the actual length of the new steer tube. A custom fork might be a better option as you could make it taller from the start and maybe get a low trail rake or special braze ons for a rack etc. Only problem is, you start to put too much into a $400 frame at which point you may as well get something like a used Atlantis which is a much better frame. On Sep 10, 12:50 pm, mizrachi wrote: > Sorry for the confusion...I never have to write my height down. But > I'm a bit under six foot one. I'm six feet and one half inch. No > where near six foot five. > > On Sep 10, 2:36 pm, charlie wrote: > > > > > > > > > Holy beans brother..at 6' 5" you should fit a 60 or even a 62 cm. > > I ride a 58cm and I am only 5' 11". It doesn't sound as if your arms > > are super short or your torso either given the fact that your PBH is > > 88.9 (mine is 86.4). You may just need to do some flexibility > > exercises. My bar is a 41 cm noodle so given the height differences > > I'd say our bikes fit us similarly. I also bought a 75mm stem and > > thought I was more comfy but realized I was crunching up after riding > > my new Rivendell SimpleOne. I did some measuring and went back to my > > old 90mm stem and duplicated the Rivendell fit which has proven to be > > fine. Regardless a 58cm will be too small for you (get that thought > > out of your mind seriously) go back and read the Rivendell fit method > > especially stem lengths etc. and do some measuring of your torso and > > arm reach. At your height and leg length I can't imagine that you > > would need a stubby 75mm stem using a 46cm noodle bar unless your > > shoulders are very narrow and your arms are unusually short. Still, > > your torso comprises a good deal of your height based on the > > measurements you've given so it doesn't make sense that you are > > feeling stretched out. The noodle bar does have a long reach and you > > may benefit from a narrower bar in that style. Going with a narrower > > grip (41 cm) effectively lengthens your reach (think about it) but the > > difference is only about 50mm overall from a 46cm. The same thing > > happens when you ride the tops but its more extreme. You sound as if > > you are doing the exact same thing I didthinking I was stretched > > out too far and placing my hands on the curve of the bar seemed > > natural at first. Given all that I would disassemble your fork and > > take a measurement from the crown race to the top of the threads and > > compare over the telephone before ordering a new fork. There may not > > be much difference if any and it may make more sense to have one > > custom built with a longer steer tube ( if ) that is your actual > > problem. I think if it were me and it came to that, I would sell the > > Trucker (fine bike that it is) and purchase something else with more > > fit flexibility (probably a Rivendell) since I would be able to > > converse about the fit with them on the same level and get a bike that > > actually fit right from the start. Hope this helps some. > > > On Sep 9, 11:52 pm, mizrachi wrote: > > > > The 60cm LHT feels great aside from feeling a bit stretched out on the > > > hoods. I'm 6.05' with a pbh of 88.9 so I think I could fit either a > > > 58 or a 60 but given the type of riding I do and the Riv sizing > > > philosophy privileging the larger frame, I went with the 60cm. And > > > again, the bike is really comfortable. The only adjustment I feel I > > > need at this point is getting myself as comfortable on the hoods as I > > > am on the corners, a few inches behind the hoods. Would a 58cm get me > > > there? I don't know. My gut tells me a new fork with an uncut > > > steering tube would help. But perhaps the solution is simply in an > > > adjustable stem. I dunno. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Not completely OT: A few wool caps for sale
Hi everyone, I just put some items in my online shop for sale. Some jerseys and caps by Walz Caps. Take a look if there's interest: www.shop.synapticcycles.com Logo and jersey design by our very own Jon Grant! Best, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Rivendell used to have a chart entitled "Sizing Your Atlantis" that listed PBH, saddle height & frame size. There was some overlap in frame sizes. It lists a 58 cm frame for a PBH of 84 to 89, and a 61 cm for PBH of 87 to 93. So your 88.9 cm PBH could ride either a 58 or 61 Atlantis. Since your LHT is 60, and your otherwise comfortable, it sounds like your darn close now. The stem riser suggestion above is easy, quick & cheap. One of my touring buds solved major comfort issues with one, and his bike came stock with an adjustable stem and trekking bars. dougP On Sep 10, 12:50 pm, mizrachi wrote: > Sorry for the confusion...I never have to write my height down. But > I'm a bit under six foot one. I'm six feet and one half inch. No > where near six foot five. > > On Sep 10, 2:36 pm, charlie wrote: > > > > > Holy beans brother..at 6' 5" you should fit a 60 or even a 62 cm. > > I ride a 58cm and I am only 5' 11". It doesn't sound as if your arms > > are super short or your torso either given the fact that your PBH is > > 88.9 (mine is 86.4). You may just need to do some flexibility > > exercises. My bar is a 41 cm noodle so given the height differences > > I'd say our bikes fit us similarly. I also bought a 75mm stem and > > thought I was more comfy but realized I was crunching up after riding > > my new Rivendell SimpleOne. I did some measuring and went back to my > > old 90mm stem and duplicated the Rivendell fit which has proven to be > > fine. Regardless a 58cm will be too small for you (get that thought > > out of your mind seriously) go back and read the Rivendell fit method > > especially stem lengths etc. and do some measuring of your torso and > > arm reach. At your height and leg length I can't imagine that you > > would need a stubby 75mm stem using a 46cm noodle bar unless your > > shoulders are very narrow and your arms are unusually short. Still, > > your torso comprises a good deal of your height based on the > > measurements you've given so it doesn't make sense that you are > > feeling stretched out. The noodle bar does have a long reach and you > > may benefit from a narrower bar in that style. Going with a narrower > > grip (41 cm) effectively lengthens your reach (think about it) but the > > difference is only about 50mm overall from a 46cm. The same thing > > happens when you ride the tops but its more extreme. You sound as if > > you are doing the exact same thing I didthinking I was stretched > > out too far and placing my hands on the curve of the bar seemed > > natural at first. Given all that I would disassemble your fork and > > take a measurement from the crown race to the top of the threads and > > compare over the telephone before ordering a new fork. There may not > > be much difference if any and it may make more sense to have one > > custom built with a longer steer tube ( if ) that is your actual > > problem. I think if it were me and it came to that, I would sell the > > Trucker (fine bike that it is) and purchase something else with more > > fit flexibility (probably a Rivendell) since I would be able to > > converse about the fit with them on the same level and get a bike that > > actually fit right from the start. Hope this helps some. > > > On Sep 9, 11:52 pm, mizrachi wrote: > > > > The 60cm LHT feels great aside from feeling a bit stretched out on the > > > hoods. I'm 6.05' with a pbh of 88.9 so I think I could fit either a > > > 58 or a 60 but given the type of riding I do and the Riv sizing > > > philosophy privileging the larger frame, I went with the 60cm. And > > > again, the bike is really comfortable. The only adjustment I feel I > > > need at this point is getting myself as comfortable on the hoods as I > > > am on the corners, a few inches behind the hoods. Would a 58cm get me > > > there? I don't know. My gut tells me a new fork with an uncut > > > steering tube would help. But perhaps the solution is simply in an > > > adjustable stem. I dunno.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: If a 72 cm frame isn't big enough...
> Through an eleaborate system of levers and pullys that frame may or > may not be in my basement now, awaiting conversion with a kidback > tandem attachment to an "already" tall bike for mortal sized people I am looking forward to seeing this! What a great idea. Boneshakery. Philip On Sep 9, 11:17 am, tarik saleh wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > > wrote: > > Not a Riv, but since Riv is one of the few brave companies providing TALL > > bikes, I thought this may be of interest to someone here: > >http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2011/09/are-you-really-really-tal... > > > Besides, it's lugged. > > Jim., > > Awesome. Here is an 83cm frame Chris Kelly made for Eric Dampier then > the center of the Golden State > Warriors:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2006/11/big-ass-bike-in-flesh.html > Through an eleaborate system of levers and pullys that frame may or > may not be in my basement now, awaiting conversion with a kidback > tandem attachment to an "already" tall bike for mortal sized people > > There are two flickr pools you should add your pic > to:http://www.flickr.com/groups/497742@N25/pool/with/4094111379/ > andhttp://www.flickr.com/groups/1189260@N20/pool/with/4094111379/ > > Good stuff. I think most of these really big bikes are made with the > longest chainstays available with little or no cutting on them to get > them mitred up, but they always look like they are too short. > Chainstays are probably the one tube that actually is bike specific > tubing on these types of frames. For the most part everything else is > 4130 straight gauge aircraft tubing... > > Later > > Tarik > > -- > Tarik Saleh > tas at tariksaleh dot com > in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com > all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Like Charles, I would not recommend getting a smaller bike in order to get your bars higher. I think a new fork is a good answer, but a riser stem makes more sense in terms of cost, weight and hassle. And aesthetics; I think a long steerer and flat stem = sandals and socks. Your perfect stem is on eBay: 40° 90mm stem, $13.87 (free shipping): #110740029226 Compare to LHT fork, $83 (free shipping): #130554398828 Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Sep 10, 9:35 am, mizrachi wrote: > Thank you all for your help. > > I'd like to avoid swapping out my 46cm noodles as they're a joy to > use. However, I'm still trying to understand why a new fork with an > uncut steering tube would be less effective or less ideal than > adjustable stems, risers, etc. Seems to me that an uncut steering tube > will allow me to raise the bars higher than any extender and I can > then dial in the fit with stem length. Wouldn't raising the bars also > simultaneously shorten the reach to the hoods? Aside from the cost, > wouldn't this be simply the best option? > > On Sep 10, 12:33 pm, René Sterental wrote: > > > > > > > > > What handlebar are you using? Perhaps switching to a short reach drop > > bar will help, if you don't already have one. > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jim Mather wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, mizrachi wrote: > > >> For what it's worth, I have already swapped out the stock 120mm stem > > >> for a 70mm stem and I'm afraid going any smaller might make the ride > > >> a bit twitchy. And, I should also mention, that aside from this > > >> issue, the bike is quite comfortable. > > > > What's the angle on your stem? If it's nearly flat, I'd suggest > > > something like a Ritchey 30 degree stem. What's the position of your > > > brake hoods? Can you move them back? > > > > jim m > > > wc ca > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Sorry for the confusion...I never have to write my height down. But I'm a bit under six foot one. I'm six feet and one half inch. No where near six foot five. On Sep 10, 2:36 pm, charlie wrote: > Holy beans brother..at 6' 5" you should fit a 60 or even a 62 cm. > I ride a 58cm and I am only 5' 11". It doesn't sound as if your arms > are super short or your torso either given the fact that your PBH is > 88.9 (mine is 86.4). You may just need to do some flexibility > exercises. My bar is a 41 cm noodle so given the height differences > I'd say our bikes fit us similarly. I also bought a 75mm stem and > thought I was more comfy but realized I was crunching up after riding > my new Rivendell SimpleOne. I did some measuring and went back to my > old 90mm stem and duplicated the Rivendell fit which has proven to be > fine. Regardless a 58cm will be too small for you (get that thought > out of your mind seriously) go back and read the Rivendell fit method > especially stem lengths etc. and do some measuring of your torso and > arm reach. At your height and leg length I can't imagine that you > would need a stubby 75mm stem using a 46cm noodle bar unless your > shoulders are very narrow and your arms are unusually short. Still, > your torso comprises a good deal of your height based on the > measurements you've given so it doesn't make sense that you are > feeling stretched out. The noodle bar does have a long reach and you > may benefit from a narrower bar in that style. Going with a narrower > grip (41 cm) effectively lengthens your reach (think about it) but the > difference is only about 50mm overall from a 46cm. The same thing > happens when you ride the tops but its more extreme. You sound as if > you are doing the exact same thing I didthinking I was stretched > out too far and placing my hands on the curve of the bar seemed > natural at first. Given all that I would disassemble your fork and > take a measurement from the crown race to the top of the threads and > compare over the telephone before ordering a new fork. There may not > be much difference if any and it may make more sense to have one > custom built with a longer steer tube ( if ) that is your actual > problem. I think if it were me and it came to that, I would sell the > Trucker (fine bike that it is) and purchase something else with more > fit flexibility (probably a Rivendell) since I would be able to > converse about the fit with them on the same level and get a bike that > actually fit right from the start. Hope this helps some. > > On Sep 9, 11:52 pm, mizrachi wrote: > > > The 60cm LHT feels great aside from feeling a bit stretched out on the > > hoods. I'm 6.05' with a pbh of 88.9 so I think I could fit either a > > 58 or a 60 but given the type of riding I do and the Riv sizing > > philosophy privileging the larger frame, I went with the 60cm. And > > again, the bike is really comfortable. The only adjustment I feel I > > need at this point is getting myself as comfortable on the hoods as I > > am on the corners, a few inches behind the hoods. Would a 58cm get me > > there? I don't know. My gut tells me a new fork with an uncut > > steering tube would help. But perhaps the solution is simply in an > > adjustable stem. I dunno. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Can you post a photograph of yourself on your bicycle (wear a non baggy shirt) that is taken from a side view and from the front? Do one on the hoods and one on the curve of the bar plus one on the tops for good measurehave a friend help. Just slightly lean against a wall and assume your normal position on the bike. When you/we see the results it'll answer some questions. On Sep 10, 11:36 am, charlie wrote: > Holy beans brother..at 6' 5" you should fit a 60 or even a 62 cm. > I ride a 58cm and I am only 5' 11". It doesn't sound as if your arms > are super short or your torso either given the fact that your PBH is > 88.9 (mine is 86.4). You may just need to do some flexibility > exercises. My bar is a 41 cm noodle so given the height differences > I'd say our bikes fit us similarly. I also bought a 75mm stem and > thought I was more comfy but realized I was crunching up after riding > my new Rivendell SimpleOne. I did some measuring and went back to my > old 90mm stem and duplicated the Rivendell fit which has proven to be > fine. Regardless a 58cm will be too small for you (get that thought > out of your mind seriously) go back and read the Rivendell fit method > especially stem lengths etc. and do some measuring of your torso and > arm reach. At your height and leg length I can't imagine that you > would need a stubby 75mm stem using a 46cm noodle bar unless your > shoulders are very narrow and your arms are unusually short. Still, > your torso comprises a good deal of your height based on the > measurements you've given so it doesn't make sense that you are > feeling stretched out. The noodle bar does have a long reach and you > may benefit from a narrower bar in that style. Going with a narrower > grip (41 cm) effectively lengthens your reach (think about it) but the > difference is only about 50mm overall from a 46cm. The same thing > happens when you ride the tops but its more extreme. You sound as if > you are doing the exact same thing I didthinking I was stretched > out too far and placing my hands on the curve of the bar seemed > natural at first. Given all that I would disassemble your fork and > take a measurement from the crown race to the top of the threads and > compare over the telephone before ordering a new fork. There may not > be much difference if any and it may make more sense to have one > custom built with a longer steer tube ( if ) that is your actual > problem. I think if it were me and it came to that, I would sell the > Trucker (fine bike that it is) and purchase something else with more > fit flexibility (probably a Rivendell) since I would be able to > converse about the fit with them on the same level and get a bike that > actually fit right from the start. Hope this helps some. > > On Sep 9, 11:52 pm, mizrachi wrote: > > > > > > > > > The 60cm LHT feels great aside from feeling a bit stretched out on the > > hoods. I'm 6.05' with a pbh of 88.9 so I think I could fit either a > > 58 or a 60 but given the type of riding I do and the Riv sizing > > philosophy privileging the larger frame, I went with the 60cm. And > > again, the bike is really comfortable. The only adjustment I feel I > > need at this point is getting myself as comfortable on the hoods as I > > am on the corners, a few inches behind the hoods. Would a 58cm get me > > there? I don't know. My gut tells me a new fork with an uncut > > steering tube would help. But perhaps the solution is simply in an > > adjustable stem. I dunno. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW
Back from a 10 day bike tour in Colorado, where I discovered there isn't much air at 12,000 feet. I should be ready to climb Diablo. I'll be there to represent the XX contingent. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM, René Sterental wrote: > One campground confirmed for up to 8 people @ Juniper campground for > September 24. > > René > > > -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Holy beans brother..at 6' 5" you should fit a 60 or even a 62 cm. I ride a 58cm and I am only 5' 11". It doesn't sound as if your arms are super short or your torso either given the fact that your PBH is 88.9 (mine is 86.4). You may just need to do some flexibility exercises. My bar is a 41 cm noodle so given the height differences I'd say our bikes fit us similarly. I also bought a 75mm stem and thought I was more comfy but realized I was crunching up after riding my new Rivendell SimpleOne. I did some measuring and went back to my old 90mm stem and duplicated the Rivendell fit which has proven to be fine. Regardless a 58cm will be too small for you (get that thought out of your mind seriously) go back and read the Rivendell fit method especially stem lengths etc. and do some measuring of your torso and arm reach. At your height and leg length I can't imagine that you would need a stubby 75mm stem using a 46cm noodle bar unless your shoulders are very narrow and your arms are unusually short. Still, your torso comprises a good deal of your height based on the measurements you've given so it doesn't make sense that you are feeling stretched out. The noodle bar does have a long reach and you may benefit from a narrower bar in that style. Going with a narrower grip (41 cm) effectively lengthens your reach (think about it) but the difference is only about 50mm overall from a 46cm. The same thing happens when you ride the tops but its more extreme. You sound as if you are doing the exact same thing I didthinking I was stretched out too far and placing my hands on the curve of the bar seemed natural at first. Given all that I would disassemble your fork and take a measurement from the crown race to the top of the threads and compare over the telephone before ordering a new fork. There may not be much difference if any and it may make more sense to have one custom built with a longer steer tube ( if ) that is your actual problem. I think if it were me and it came to that, I would sell the Trucker (fine bike that it is) and purchase something else with more fit flexibility (probably a Rivendell) since I would be able to converse about the fit with them on the same level and get a bike that actually fit right from the start. Hope this helps some. On Sep 9, 11:52 pm, mizrachi wrote: > The 60cm LHT feels great aside from feeling a bit stretched out on the > hoods. I'm 6.05' with a pbh of 88.9 so I think I could fit either a > 58 or a 60 but given the type of riding I do and the Riv sizing > philosophy privileging the larger frame, I went with the 60cm. And > again, the bike is really comfortable. The only adjustment I feel I > need at this point is getting myself as comfortable on the hoods as I > am on the corners, a few inches behind the hoods. Would a 58cm get me > there? I don't know. My gut tells me a new fork with an uncut > steering tube would help. But perhaps the solution is simply in an > adjustable stem. I dunno. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Questions
Isabella for me thank you ;~} I appreciate the inability to give a difference between the two excellent frames. I too have a Legolas and agree about its lively springy feel, more so than my Riv Road custom too. That's not to diminish the Riv Road though. I have mine setup for mixed surface riding http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6103298924/in/photostream/ I just compared the geometry between a 62cm Legolas and 61 Roadeo. Within 5mm and canti vs caliper brakes, they're the same bikes: Mechanical Trail/Wheel Flop 1/1mm more on the Legolas chainstay 5mm longer on Legolas BB drop 5mm higher Legolas down tube reportedly 0.05mm 'thicker' (can they really measure that?!) on the Legolas seat angle 73 Legolas vs 72 Roadeo. For me the Legolas is a very nice 2nd road bike with the ability to do dirt roads well, so its not a complete overlap. Its a bike that is out of my league too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4VZOg1_blhMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Questions
I own a Legolas and have ridden a Roadeo. My Leg' is set up as a light road bike and performs wonderfully in that role. I can also switch wheels to something wider and knobbier when I want to go fireroading on it. The Roadeo is also a great road bike, and perhaps a touch more responsive than the Leg'. The Roadeo feels to me like the perfect '70s or '80s steel stage race bike. Below is the geometry for the Leg' first and the Roadeo second. SizeBB Drop TT slopeStandover ST AngleHT Angle Rake (mm) TT Chainstay 59 701.5 84.3 73 72.5 45 58 44 59 77284 72 73 43 58.243.5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] plethoric touring photos
OK, why have I not been following your blog all this time? Those are just great photos, thanks for sharing them! On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > The pictures are fantastic. Could you possibly put up a Google map showing > your route? I did some of the paved Sierra Cascades route last summer on my > Atlantis, but it sounds like your route was way better. > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:21 PM, erik jensen wrote: > >> hey bobs and rbdub'rs, >> >> last month i did a ride north to south, following bil paul's 1991 route >> guide "the pacific crest trail." beautiful roads and trails: rode my >> atlantis (like always). >> >> i'm getting photos up onto my blog, at bikenoir.blogspot.com, and figured >> it might be of interest to some of you all. >> > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: If a 72 cm frame isn't big enough...
On Sep 9, 2:19 pm, Marty wrote: > FYI - One more Flickr group for Tall Riders here: > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/tallriders/ > > Maybe there should be a special-special group for those 1meter+ PBH types. > (you know who you are) At only 92cm, I'm starting to feel rather short. > > Marty Hi Marty and others: there *is* such a group, which I started early this year. Sporadic but very good discussions, because the group's membership is small (36 members), and, for all of the differences amongst us, we share a common problem -- bikes are small, and we're tall. Join us! http://groups.google.com/group/large-bicycles Art Tacoma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Mizrachi, What bars are you using? Would switching to a different bar with less reach help? http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/ David G, Madison WI On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:26 AM, mizrachi wrote: > The most comfortable position on my 60cm LHT is behind the hoods by a > few inches. Riding on the hoods themselves, as I do on my road bike, > i feel a bit stretched out. As the steering tube has been cut and I > can't raise my bars any more than they already are (with the two or > three spacers in there) it looks like I've got a few options in order > to ride comfortably on the hoods: > > 1. Buy an uncut fork > 2. Buy a 58cm frame > 3. Use a stem riser > 4. Use an adjustable stem > 5. Buy a smaller frame > 6. Adjust saddle closer to bars > 7. Decide that riding behind the hoods is fine and get used to it. > > For what it's worth, I have already swapped out the stock 120mm stem > for a 70mm stem and I'm afraid going any smaller might make the ride > a bit twitchy. And, I should also mention, that aside from this > issue, the bike is quite comfortable. > > What would you recommend? > > (plz excuse the cross post) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Questions
Thomas, A full report on the Rohloff Bombadil is expected!! Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:35 AM, mizrachi wrote: > Aside from the cost, wouldn't this be simply the best option? Getting a new fork will certainly work. With a bunch of spacers and the 2 stems you have, you can try a lot of options. For me, the best option would be the least expensive that gets me the fit I need. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
I'm just a 1/4" shorter than you but with only a 86 pbh, so you must have a shorter torso. I would probably ride a 58 LHT with a 100mm stem. In your case the 58 may have been a better choice due to top tube length if you don't fit a 60 with a 70mm stem. Bike fit is a compromise between seat tube height and top tube in my opinion. As a few others have said, hood position could be moved up/back on your noodles or the stem riser to get you closer could be a short term fix. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Sr-MXMbMx38J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] plethoric touring photos
The pictures are fantastic. Could you possibly put up a Google map showing your route? I did some of the paved Sierra Cascades route last summer on my Atlantis, but it sounds like your route was way better. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:21 PM, erik jensen wrote: > hey bobs and rbdub'rs, > > last month i did a ride north to south, following bil paul's 1991 route > guide "the pacific crest trail." beautiful roads and trails: rode my > atlantis (like always). > > i'm getting photos up onto my blog, at bikenoir.blogspot.com, and figured > it might be of interest to some of you all. > -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] plethoric touring photos
Erik, Beautiful photos. You bring your adventures to those of us who cannot join you. Thank you! René Sent from my iPad On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:21 PM, erik jensen wrote: hey bobs and rbdub'rs, last month i did a ride north to south, following bil paul's 1991 route guide "the pacific crest trail." beautiful roads and trails: rode my atlantis (like always). i'm getting photos up onto my blog, at bikenoir.blogspot.com, and figured it might be of interest to some of you all. there were also many other adventures had this summer, in particular a great 3 day trip through the ventana wilderness and more s24o's than I can count off the top of my head. enjoy. erik -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:35 PM, mizrachi wrote: > Thank you all for your help. > > I'd like to avoid swapping out my 46cm noodles as they're a joy to > use. However, I'm still trying to understand why a new fork with an > uncut steering tube would be less effective or less ideal than > adjustable stems, risers, etc. Seems to me that an uncut steering tube > will allow me to raise the bars higher than any extender and I can > then dial in the fit with stem length. Wouldn't raising the bars also > simultaneously shorten the reach to the hoods? Aside from the cost, > wouldn't this be simply the best option? > > the stem extension is a cheap test of getting a new fork. If you put the raiser on - and it is all unicorns and rainbows then you know what you need AND you know the height you need it. If it doesn't you're out what? $20? that's a good deal. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Thank you all for your help. I'd like to avoid swapping out my 46cm noodles as they're a joy to use. However, I'm still trying to understand why a new fork with an uncut steering tube would be less effective or less ideal than adjustable stems, risers, etc. Seems to me that an uncut steering tube will allow me to raise the bars higher than any extender and I can then dial in the fit with stem length. Wouldn't raising the bars also simultaneously shorten the reach to the hoods? Aside from the cost, wouldn't this be simply the best option? On Sep 10, 12:33 pm, René Sterental wrote: > What handlebar are you using? Perhaps switching to a short reach drop > bar will help, if you don't already have one. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jim Mather wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, mizrachi wrote: > >> For what it's worth, I have already swapped out the stock 120mm stem > >> for a 70mm stem and I'm afraid going any smaller might make the ride > >> a bit twitchy. And, I should also mention, that aside from this > >> issue, the bike is quite comfortable. > > > What's the angle on your stem? If it's nearly flat, I'd suggest > > something like a Ritchey 30 degree stem. What's the position of your > > brake hoods? Can you move them back? > > > jim m > > wc ca > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
What handlebar are you using? Perhaps switching to a short reach drop bar will help, if you don't already have one. Sent from my iPad On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jim Mather wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, mizrachi wrote: >> For what it's worth, I have already swapped out the stock 120mm stem >> for a 70mm stem and I'm afraid going any smaller might make the ride >> a bit twitchy. And, I should also mention, that aside from this >> issue, the bike is quite comfortable. > > > What's the angle on your stem? If it's nearly flat, I'd suggest > something like a Ritchey 30 degree stem. What's the position of your > brake hoods? Can you move them back? > > jim m > wc ca > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Questions
> RL, > > Can you describe how it rides different than the Legolas? I can't give a very honest comparison of the Legolas vs. Roadeo, because the builds on the two bikes are so very different. The Roadeo is built as a comfortable, light road bike with supple tires (FSA Carbon Triple crankset, Campagnolo Record Ten groupset, Schwalbe Kojaks), and gets ridden on pavement. Really, really, crappy pavement - - if any of you are familiar with Cavedale Road, for instance - - but it's still pavement. The Legolas is built as a 1x9 Cyclocrosss bike, with knobby CX tires, and I hardly ever ride it on pavement. It's a mudder - - pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626493792020/ On climbs, the bikes feel quite similar. Both are light and springy, more so than my Road Custom or Atlantis. On descents, the Roadeo feels more stable - - I don't have any bikes that descend better than the Roadeo, and those big fat Schwalbes make it a LOT more fun to descend on rough roads. The Legolas feels super at all times, just a little more "floaty" on the descents. They are both excellent, fun, beautiful bikes. Whichever you choose, you will not be disappointed. It's like asking whether Isabella Rosellini or Ingrid Bergman is prettier - - It doesn't make much of a difference, 'cuz they're both out of my league. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, mizrachi wrote: > For what it's worth, I have already swapped out the stock 120mm stem > for a 70mm stem and I'm afraid going any smaller might make the ride > a bit twitchy. And, I should also mention, that aside from this > issue, the bike is quite comfortable. What's the angle on your stem? If it's nearly flat, I'd suggest something like a Ritchey 30 degree stem. What's the position of your brake hoods? Can you move them back? jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Touring items- Like-new Ortlieb Bike Packer + Panniers & Used Nitto Big Back Rack
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[RBW] Re: FS: Touring items- Like-new Ortlieb Bike Packer + Panniers & Used Nitto Big Back Rack
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[RBW] Riding on the hoods: New Fork needed?
Try the stem riser... it's $25-35, it'll bring the bars closer in both fore/aft
and up/down dimensions, and it isolates the change to just bar position without
changing other geometrical relationships (like an even shorter stem or an
adjustable stem or a saddle shift would).
If it works out then you can get an uncut steerer if you want the same effect
w/o the extra part. Or you can just use it indefinitely.
Caveat: the stem riser, at its minimum, may bring the bars *too* high. Then it
remains a judgment call as to whether you'd be happy somewhere in between and
thus whether a new uncut fork (presumably yours has been cut?) is the answer.
Since you describe the bike as generally comfortable otherwise, I wouldn't move
the saddle. In my experience getting my butt in the right place relative to the
pedals closely correlates to comfort. It allows me to use various cockpits and
be comfy on all of them though they differ in height/reach/hand-orientation.
Personally I'd be very cautious about the smaller frame... I'm your height with
a PBH of 90 and would probably get a 62cm LHT. I'd look into a different bar
style (i.e. non-drop) before going that route.
That's my nickel ("2 cents" just doesn't cover it :)).
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
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