[RBW] WTB 56 cm Saluki
Anyone interested in having a pocketful of money in trade for a 56 cm Saluki? If so, I am your man... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N02VnJi1VAgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Weight
Have to say, that's the way I prefer it. Think they still call it credit card touring. Not looking to set any mileage records, but just like the feel of the unencumbered bike. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Most people who are outwardly interested in discussing bicycle touring are theoreticians. They might know the exact weight of various lightweight tents, but they've yet to spend the night in any tent during a bicycle tour. The most experienced bicycle tourist I know has logged hundreds of thousands of miles in various exotic places and crossing this continent many times. His touring bikes are more Rambouillet than Atlantis, and he doesn't camp, cook, or ride in bad weather. He crosses the country with a load similar to what I carry on my daily rides that don't leave town. For him, logging time and miles on the bike is the most important thing. For me, cooking really good food and coffee is a priority - it's likely that I spend more time grocery shopping, cooking, and eating than I do riding (ok, that's a stretch, but not far off). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ueAAw0HLF9AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Touring Weight
You are carrying way too much luggage.LOL On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Fun pics! Why were you carrying the extra bike? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Sleeper *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:32 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Touring Weight Ok fasten your seat belt.Here I go.. really I assure you that I only speak for myself and my own desires and moments. I also am tired .. OH OH so TIRED of people telling me I or others that they carry to much weight on a touring trip. You weight weeny tour bikers can kiss my (insert here what you think I think) Ok I'm not that passionate about it.. however I don't get the weight weeny obsession for so many people when touring.Are you in that big of a hurry? Great and I'm all for you being minimalist. Have fun.. just don't tell me I'm doing it wrong because you do it differently. I like having my 25 foot extension cord, my laptop, charging accessories and smart phone. I like having the ability to sit in my tent during a long storm and watching tv on the internet. I don't mind pedaling with 80 lbs of gear on the bike. I'm only traveling 50 to 60 miles a day anyway... look to average about 10 mph and just toodle along.. and you will tell me I carry to much... Humm.. hurricane goes through and then you are looking at 20 degree temp drop .. and continuous down pours for two days.. having good cooking equipment.. cans of soup.. laptop.. rain gear warmer clothes was all great... Oh wait no showers and really sweaty and dirty.. sure was nice having a solar shower to clean up with including the soap the traveling partners didn't mind borrowing the shower... Getting dark.. 80 miles in .. calling it a day.. setup the laptop .. log into home tv with sling box and watch tv.. while waiting on a pizza to be delivered... traveling companions gathered round to watch.. and wonder if this was really roughing it... Oh wait nice water ahead.. sweet.. I have a swimming suit.. towel and water shoes just for this.. (gotta love crocs at times) Sorry traveling companion not sharing this. Yes my repair bag is 15 lbs... with extra rear derailur .. chain whip, wire cutters, cables, chain links, cassette, front derailur and other assorted junk I hope not to need.. Well no it's not roughing it.. not supposed to be rough.. I'm on vacation.. enjoying travel by bicycle... not setting some record, or challenging some super duper worm waggle .. snail jump worlds competition anyway. Especially here where you ride bikes in a style that is heavier and slower than the racing counter parts I would think you would see that weight is not that big a deal. (hold it before you start.. passing kit clad wannabe's isn't passing a racer going after it) When trying to ride in the moderate speed ranges weight of very little concern. Or insert moderate execration levels non racing lets enjoy the bike stuff. This sentence is a deep dark rat hole I should delete but won't.. so ignore it or get it but don't argue it with me on this thread please... see I even used the word please. I've traveled with 4 full panniers and a trailer hauling a plastic bike and the average speed didn't change much from just going without the trailer and bike. Same arguments made for bigger tires... comfort.. I want comfort on the road.. extra shoes in case one pair gets wet. larger tent for getting all my gear inside or repacking or long days of torrential storms. I want clothing that covers the 90 degree day I had today and the rainy cold 40 degree (feeling like 20) day I'm going to end up with tomorrow. I carry more weight on a century ride than some of you do for cross country. I don't care how little you carry or what you might be able to do without.. it's not a challenge .. just pack what you think you want. If you don't want to carry it a day or two in stop at UPS and send some home. My only point is that you don't have to worry about weight so much.. it's not that big of a deal in most situations. Ya I know for every rule ... there is the exception.. exemptions to the rule does not make the rule invalid. So make fun of the heavy haulers all you want... I'm a proud one and want you potential bike tourers to know it's ok and not a bad thing to go prepared and comfy. (insert heavy and comfy instead of prepared and avoid conflict) So here are some touring photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157627604208847/ different bikes and different times.. progression.. whatever.. figure photos are the reward for reading my rant. It's fun and weight is so NOT a thing to worry about. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
[RBW] Re: Touring Weight
This just made my day. Good stuff. Thanks. On Sep 22, 12:31 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Ok fasten your seat belt. Here I go.. really I assure you that I only speak for myself and my own desires and moments. I also am tired .. OH OH so TIRED of people telling me I or others that they carry to much weight on a touring trip. You weight weeny tour bikers can kiss my (insert here what you think I think) Ok I'm not that passionate about it.. however I don't get the weight weeny obsession for so many people when touring. Are you in that big of a hurry? Great and I'm all for you being minimalist. Have fun.. just don't tell me I'm doing it wrong because you do it differently. I like having my 25 foot extension cord, my laptop, charging accessories and smart phone. I like having the ability to sit in my tent during a long storm and watching tv on the internet. I don't mind pedaling with 80 lbs of gear on the bike. I'm only traveling 50 to 60 miles a day anyway... look to average about 10 mph and just toodle along.. and you will tell me I carry to much... Humm.. hurricane goes through and then you are looking at 20 degree temp drop .. and continuous down pours for two days.. having good cooking equipment.. cans of soup.. laptop.. rain gear warmer clothes was all great... Oh wait no showers and really sweaty and dirty.. sure was nice having a solar shower to clean up with including the soap the traveling partners didn't mind borrowing the shower... Getting dark.. 80 miles in .. calling it a day.. setup the laptop .. log into home tv with sling box and watch tv.. while waiting on a pizza to be delivered... traveling companions gathered round to watch.. and wonder if this was really roughing it... Oh wait nice water ahead.. sweet.. I have a swimming suit.. towel and water shoes just for this.. (gotta love crocs at times) Sorry traveling companion not sharing this. Yes my repair bag is 15 lbs... with extra rear derailur .. chain whip, wire cutters, cables, chain links, cassette, front derailur and other assorted junk I hope not to need.. Well no it's not roughing it.. not supposed to be rough.. I'm on vacation.. enjoying travel by bicycle... not setting some record, or challenging some super duper worm waggle .. snail jump worlds competition anyway. Especially here where you ride bikes in a style that is heavier and slower than the racing counter parts I would think you would see that weight is not that big a deal. (hold it before you start.. passing kit clad wannabe's isn't passing a racer going after it) When trying to ride in the moderate speed ranges weight of very little concern. Or insert moderate execration levels non racing lets enjoy the bike stuff. This sentence is a deep dark rat hole I should delete but won't.. so ignore it or get it but don't argue it with me on this thread please... see I even used the word please. I've traveled with 4 full panniers and a trailer hauling a plastic bike and the average speed didn't change much from just going without the trailer and bike. Same arguments made for bigger tires... comfort.. I want comfort on the road.. extra shoes in case one pair gets wet. larger tent for getting all my gear inside or repacking or long days of torrential storms. I want clothing that covers the 90 degree day I had today and the rainy cold 40 degree (feeling like 20) day I'm going to end up with tomorrow. I carry more weight on a century ride than some of you do for cross country. I don't care how little you carry or what you might be able to do without.. it's not a challenge .. just pack what you think you want. If you don't want to carry it a day or two in stop at UPS and send some home. My only point is that you don't have to worry about weight so much.. it's not that big of a deal in most situations. Ya I know for every rule ... there is the exception.. exemptions to the rule does not make the rule invalid. So make fun of the heavy haulers all you want... I'm a proud one and want you potential bike tourers to know it's ok and not a bad thing to go prepared and comfy. (insert heavy and comfy instead of prepared and avoid conflict) So here are some touring photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157627604208847/ different bikes and different times.. progression.. whatever.. figure photos are the reward for reading my rant. It's fun and weight is so NOT a thing to worry about. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] For Sale or For Trade: 1 Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin tire 650b folding bead
Hello, 1 Fatty Rumpkin 650b x 40 tire Excellent condition no damage I experimented with this tire and decided it wasn't for me. Willing to trade for any other 650b tire SCHWALBE, PACENTI, GRAND BOIS, SOMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
I have a fairly new AHH and occasionally find myself combining riding with light rail for my commute to work. My concern is that on the train, bicycles are hung from the wheel on a hook. Is there any issue doing this? Does it cause any problems for the hub, wheel, fork, etc.? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
I asked the the question a long time ago at RBW and the answer was negative. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:52 AM, archangel mccarthy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a fairly new AHH and occasionally find myself combining riding with light rail for my commute to work. My concern is that on the train, bicycles are hung from the wheel on a hook. Is there any issue doing this? Does it cause any problems for the hub, wheel, fork, etc.? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O Packing securing load
I'm looking for how-to tips, tricks, guide, (good pictures would be very helpful) for packing and securing a S24O load on my Riv. I've tried to make out details from the tiny pictures on Riv's site but they simply aren't close-up enough. I have an Atlantis, front Wald basket, rear IRC rack, and a Carradice Nelson longflap. Plan on carrying sleeping pad bag, small tent, usual accoutrements for a one night outing. No, I don't have anyone nearby that does S240's or, touring, for that matter, to learn from. I discovered quickly that while I can pack a car tight tidy for a vacation, loading a bike up is another matter. For instance, if I move the tent to just behind the seat on the rear rack, and then put the Carradice bag behind it (for easy access) - how do I attach the bag to the rack? (it normally attaches to the seat)..for that matter what is the standard way to secure big stuff to the rack when not using panniers? Bungee cords?...3/8 braided rope?...giant velcro strips? By the way I'm looking for neat, simple ways, not massive ugly knots etc. Cheers, Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lVzckR7K1Q4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O Packing securing load
I am packing for an s24o this weekend for he first time and what worked for me is to still attach the bag normally but not run the closing straps through both sides of the buckle. Basically, just enough to close them and have the metal bit go into the hole. Then have the tent strapped behind the bag. I am still able to get in the bag and it is still closed but it definitely isn't as easy to get in. I have my sleeping pad strapped around the tent and it is pretty stable. I would suggest your main thoughts on packing should be about making it stable as the primary goal and convenient for the things you have to have convenient. Btw, I think most folks use a handlebar bag for he stuff they want access to on the road. I was planning to have some clothes and my cooking stuff in the saddlebag. I haven't done much more than a ride to work with my setup. Hopefully others on the list will respond with sage advice. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7pVNwnEmMOEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O Packing securing load
Oh and I am using lots of bungee cords to make sure it s tight. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N2Le9eYjlZoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Grey's Anatomy
So did anyone catch it? I only made it 15 minutes into the show...had to turn it off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M4UmrojY43cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Year of Rol-y Pol-y introduction
Boy I could've sworn they came stock on my Heron Road that I bought in 1999. It was late '99, though so maybe they were available by then. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GzlPNOyGcGIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
The wheel will tend to stretch into an ellipse after several months of doing this. Seriously, I hang my bikes in my garage from hooks by their front wheels and have done for ~9 years and none are out of round yet. Don't worry Patrick this brings to mind Salvador Dali-esque images of taffy-like wheels Moore On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:49 AM, archangel mccarthy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a fairly new AHH and occasionally find myself combining riding with light rail for my commute to work. My concern is that on the train, bicycles are hung from the wheel on a hook. Is there any issue doing this? Does it cause any problems for the hub, wheel, fork, etc.? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O Packing securing load
Robert, Maybe you're overthinking this, but bungees are fine for securing to the rack. It sounds like the problem you have is that you cannot put something on top of the rear rack and attach the saddle sack. Depending on the sleeping pad (or is it the tent) you can mount that on the under-side of the top-tube or bungee it crosswise on top of the basket. There are just a lot of options, you just need to play around with it, there is no right way other then making sure it's secure while riding. If you have the clearance up front you could use the saddle-sack as a handle-bar bag. Here's a picture of my last S240, i have panniers, but what i have in the panniers you could carry in your saddle-sack and front basket. What i have in the long roll on top of the rear-rack is the sleeping pad, inside the sleeping pad are the poles to my tent. In the panniers i have, sleeping bag, tent (2 person, no rainfly on this trip), tent foot-print, 2-20oz bottles of water, change of clothes (camp pants, lite jacket, change of socks, shirt), bike repair kit (multi-tool, pump, tubes, patches), food (sandwiches, trailmix, etc). hard to see is on the front rack i have trunk-sack for food, wallet, keys, things i need to get at easily. i could easily get by without this but it's more convienent. http://flic.kr/p/ajaN9q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O Packing securing load
That's the beauty of an S24O. If you try a load configuration and it is less than perfect, then you know for next time to try something different. Bring a few extra bungees, or Rivendell irish straps or REI webbing with fastek buckles or a ball of twine and a pocketknife. If anything gets loose on you, lash it down. Enjoy the learning experience. Me, I've used the platrack in front for for tent, pad and sleeping bag(s). Big saddlebag in back for the rest http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/4923623707/in/set-72157624675120941/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_J0Aja-seSgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] wtt: 59cm A. Homer Hilsen for 56cm Atlantis
Looking to try out a 56cm Atlantis...anyone looking to try out a 59cm A. Homer Hilsen...let's talk! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O Packing securing load
One thing that has worked for me is to pack my tent poles separately from the rest of the tent. The tent can go in a pannier or saddle bag and the poles get lashed to whatever. Jay On Sep 23, 2:16 pm, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for how-to tips, tricks, guide, (good pictures would be very helpful) for packing and securing a S24O load on my Riv. I've tried to make out details from the tiny pictures on Riv's site but they simply aren't close-up enough. I have an Atlantis, front Wald basket, rear IRC rack, and a Carradice Nelson longflap. Plan on carrying sleeping pad bag, small tent, usual accoutrements for a one night outing. No, I don't have anyone nearby that does S240's or, touring, for that matter, to learn from. I discovered quickly that while I can pack a car tight tidy for a vacation, loading a bike up is another matter. For instance, if I move the tent to just behind the seat on the rear rack, and then put the Carradice bag behind it (for easy access) - how do I attach the bag to the rack? (it normally attaches to the seat)..for that matter what is the standard way to secure big stuff to the rack when not using panniers? Bungee cords?...3/8 braided rope?...giant velcro strips? By the way I'm looking for neat, simple ways, not massive ugly knots etc. Cheers, Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fitting on the Sam Hillborne
Need someone who owns a HIllborne who can tell me what the real standover is on the 56cm. Called Riv and was told that it would be a bit too big for someone with a 84cm pbh but have heard from other people that it should be fine with just a few cm clearance. I ride a 58cm raleigh international right now but wanted to move up to something more sturdy for a bigger guy. I was also thinking of the San Marcos in 54cm but not sure if that can support 240lbs of my fat ass. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
This question is always interesting to me- I've wondered it myself. So the question is, is compression on the rim better than tension (hook) when not rolling? If you think a bike standing in the corner, the wheels are bearing approximately half the bike's weight, in compression. On a hook, it's bearing all the weight, in tension. And also think that when rolling, it's bearing more than 10x the bike's weight on both wheels. Should be more than okay, and experience seems to bear this out. TS Berkeley CA On Sep 23, 7:38 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The wheel will tend to stretch into an ellipse after several months of doing this. Seriously, I hang my bikes in my garage from hooks by their front wheels and have done for ~9 years and none are out of round yet. Don't worry Patrick this brings to mind Salvador Dali-esque images of taffy-like wheels Moore On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:49 AM, archangel mccarthy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a fairly new AHH and occasionally find myself combining riding with light rail for my commute to work. My concern is that on the train, bicycles are hung from the wheel on a hook. Is there any issue doing this? Does it cause any problems for the hub, wheel, fork, etc.? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
on 9/23/11 9:29 AM, TSW at tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: This question is always interesting to me- I've wondered it myself. So the question is, is compression on the rim better than tension (hook) when not rolling? If you think a bike standing in the corner, the wheels are bearing approximately half the bike's weight, in compression. On a hook, it's bearing all the weight, in tension. And also think that when rolling, it's bearing more than 10x the bike's weight on both wheels. Actually, to appropriately describe the forces, the bicycle hangs down from the top of the rim when being ridden. There are some detensioning results to the forks near the bottom, but the weight is not being held up by the bottom spokes. Actual, true vertical deformation of the rim is pretty minimal. (Tires and spokes are much more elastic) Until you hit a curb or a near-vertical obstruction. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt (and others!) - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fitting on the Sam Hillborne
I'm an 87, and I owned a 56 Sam. With Jack Browns I found the standover to be right at the 83.4 they claim. I can't see a particular reason a true 85 would have a problem with a 56 Sam, especially considering Grant himself ran a 60 Sam for a while with few complaints or issues besides that it looked odd. He's an 85, too, if memory serves. I sold my 56 Sam to help pay for a 58 Atlantis, so I can run even fatter tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tVxc8kDy5_QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fitting on the Sam Hillborne
I had a 56 Sam.. and I've got an 84.5 pbh.. standover wasn't a problem on the Sam, and I'm long-waisted so the tt fit was pretty good too (i'm about 5'11). This was with 40mm Schwalbe Mara Supremes. For comparison, a 52 Bombadil, 59 Canti-Rom, and a 58 SimpleOne all fit better than the 56 Sam. best, andrew On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Peter M wrote: Need someone who owns a HIllborne who can tell me what the real standover is on the 56cm. Called Riv and was told that it would be a bit too big for someone with a 84cm pbh but have heard from other people that it should be fine with just a few cm clearance. I ride a 58cm raleigh international right now but wanted to move up to something more sturdy for a bigger guy. I was also thinking of the San Marcos in 54cm but not sure if that can support 240lbs of my fat ass. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Air Travel With a 60cm. Bombadil ... Or other large and long bikes
Hi Garth, I have a 60cm Rambouillet and have shipped it through UPS and on Air France with this bike box. http://www.crateworks.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=crateworksProduct_Code=Pro_XLC The frame just fits lengthwise, such that I have to detach the rear derailer to have it lay flat. The box has held up and the bike has made the trips just fine (except when Air France neglected to actually put it on the plane, but that's another story). Not sure how the Ram compares to the Bombadil, but this is what I have used. Steve On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Garth wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any dedicated bike containers that would fit a 60cm. Bombadil ? ... (or any large and long bike) There's always the boxes, but I'd rather use something more sturdy if i could. I'm trying to figure something out for air travel. The frame height is no problem ... but the extra long wheelbase may be an issue for some containers. I have zero experience in air travel with a bike . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OuLRH9ryvqMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
On Friday, September 23, 2011, PATRICK MOORE wrote: The wheel will tend to stretch into an ellipse after several months of doing this. The solution is to go out and rotate the wheel by one spoke slot each morning... alternatively rotate to the opposite side, then split the difference, then the opposing side, then split that difference, then the opposing side, narrowing the angle as you go, much like tightening lugnuts on a car. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fitting on the Sam Hillborne
I have a PBH of 82.5 and am 5' 10 and have a 56cm Hillborne. I don't have a lot of clearance but I like the fit I have on it and I love the relaxed geometry. By the way I'm about the same weight as you also. I think a 56 would fit you fine On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Need someone who owns a HIllborne who can tell me what the real standover is on the 56cm. Called Riv and was told that it would be a bit too big for someone with a 84cm pbh but have heard from other people that it should be fine with just a few cm clearance. I ride a 58cm raleigh international right now but wanted to move up to something more sturdy for a bigger guy. I was also thinking of the San Marcos in 54cm but not sure if that can support 240lbs of my fat ass. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mixed-Mode Commuting with AHH
Religiously following this protocol you will eventually end up with a 48 (and very skinny) diameter wheel. Patrick taffy-brain Moore On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, September 23, 2011, PATRICK MOORE wrote: The wheel will tend to stretch into an ellipse after several months of doing this. The solution is to go out and rotate the wheel by one spoke slot each morning... alternatively rotate to the opposite side, then split the difference, then the opposing side, then split that difference, then the opposing side, narrowing the angle as you go, much like tightening lugnuts on a car. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Foss Tubes
OK, I now have the right size tube in my possession, but am still perplexed about what to do with the role of two sided tape. What have others done - glued it to the rim tape, replaced the rim tape, glued it to the inside of the tire, created another dust catcher on a shelf, or tossed it out? michael, keeping the rubber side down and the sunny side up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XS1rClsj8BsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Air Travel With a 60cm. Bombadil ... Or other large and long bikes
Steve, That looks really good, thanks for calling it to my attention. I can't find the dimensions on their website. Do you know what it measures for H, W, L? Thanks, Tim On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Steve Wimberg st...@stevewimberg.comwrote: Hi Garth, I have a 60cm Rambouillet and have shipped it through UPS and on Air France with this bike box. http://www.crateworks.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=crateworksProduct_Code=Pro_XLC The frame just fits lengthwise, such that I have to detach the rear derailer to have it lay flat. The box has held up and the bike has made the trips just fine (except when Air France neglected to actually put it on the plane, but that's another story). Not sure how the Ram compares to the Bombadil, but this is what I have used. Steve On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Garth wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any dedicated bike containers that would fit a 60cm. Bombadil ? ... (or any large and long bike) There's always the boxes, but I'd rather use something more sturdy if i could. I'm trying to figure something out for air travel. The frame height is no problem ... but the extra long wheelbase may be an issue for some containers. I have zero experience in air travel with a bike . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OuLRH9ryvqMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell on Grey's Anatomy
I agree. About as awful programming as I have ever tried to watch. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:56 AM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: I only made it 15 minutes into the show...had to turn it off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Heading to Walnut Creek
Dawn (the wife) and I will be in Walnut Creek Oct 1st through Oct 5th if anyone would like to get together. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tHXhRsKjL1cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I need green help! No not money or enviro-tips: the paint color green
After some repairs at the factory in Walnut Creek, I am having my Rivendell Redwood repainted. I would love links to green painted Rivendells IF there is also a picture link AND a name or code identifying the color of green. I've been on the Joe Bell website and I think there are around a dozen colors called green with a paint chip the size of a stamp. Frankly, even if the chip were really really big, I would find it hard to choose a color I hadn't already seen used on a bike. By way of illustration of my difficulty, the color of green on a Redwood is close to Gecko Green on a VW Bug. But..you would never ever know that from looking at the paint chip of Gecko Green online. So..any and all green Rivendell help will be greatly appreciated. Actually, if you have pics and codes of other BOBish bikes, that too would be great. Thanks Derek Simmons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Air Travel With a 60cm. Bombadil ... Or other large and long bikes
UPS it ahead of time. Or better yet, Amtrak if the station locations work out. It will likely be cheaper than airline fees, and you can insure it against loss and damage. The biggest advantage is not having to lug a heavy, awkward package through a crowded airport, wrestle it onto public transit, into cabs, or your rental car. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sXFbo2qrVWUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] I need green help! No not money or enviro-tips: the paint color green
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:22 -0700, Derek Simmons wrote: After some repairs at the factory in Walnut Creek, I am having my Rivendell Redwood repainted. I would love links to green painted Rivendells IF there is also a picture link AND a name or code identifying the color of green. Fairway Green Metallic http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/3522508913/in/set-72157617915097787/ This was a standard color for the Riv 650B Mixte. I've been on the Joe Bell website and I think there are around a dozen colors called green with a paint chip the size of a stamp. Frankly, even if the chip were really really big, I would find it hard to choose a color I hadn't already seen used on a bike. By way of illustration of my difficulty, the color of green on a Redwood is close to Gecko Green on a VW Bug. But..you would never ever know that from looking at the paint chip of Gecko Green online. So..any and all green Rivendell help will be greatly appreciated. Actually, if you have pics and codes of other BOBish bikes, that too would be great. This Mercian is British Racing Green http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/images2/cc178-1Dscn1801.jpg used on many MGs, Jaguars, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Air Travel With a 60cm. Bombadil ... Or other large and long bikes
Garth: I concur with Jim's suggestion. I've shipped my 58 cm Atlantis quite a bit. Internationally, of course you need to deal with the airlines but as noted above, non-US carriers are friendlier than US. There are also lots of code share flights so for instance Lufthansa may take your bike, United wants a king's ransom, and it's the same flight. Check carefully. In the past, some non-US carriers accepted bikes without boxing, just remove the pedals. Within the US, no question about shipping ahead via ground. UPS FedEx are comparable in both price level of service (medicore to acceptable). I have limited experience with shipping via Amtrak but it's worth a look. My Atlantis runs around $75 to $90 per trip, depending on distance the whim of the carrier. With a large frame, it is easy to exceed the UPS / Fed Ex dimension limits get into oversize. Currently that is 130 combined girth plus length (2x width + 2x height + length). The Crateworks box, Ironcase, Performance, etc, most bike specific boxes are designed to this limit. I stenciled 11 x 29 x 48 on both sides of my box have not gotten any size arguments. Airlines have a differenct measuring method that is I believe a simple total of length + width + height, but that total may vary depending on the carrier. Check carefully. Airlines are more concerned about weight I've run into a 50 lb limit which requires some thinking to meet. A couple of years ago I used a friend's Crateworks box wound up with the pedals, cassette chain in my luggage to squeak under the 50 lb limit. Expect to have to take a lot of stuff off the bike. I remove the RD as a pre-caution. On my 58 cm, both the mini-front rack and the big back rack have to come off, h'bars (yey for cable splitters!), the bottle cages on the DT, seat, it ain't pretty. Allow plenty of time for packing. This summer, I boxed my bike for Amtrak it's a huge box. All that's req'd is remove the pedals and turn the bars. They say nothing else in the box but the bike. We traveled on the train so we just walked on with panniers front bags. They have boxes at the station, but check ahead. Be careful: once you start traveling with your bike, you won't be able to leave home without it. dougP On Sep 23, 3:29 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: UPS it ahead of time. Or better yet, Amtrak if the station locations work out. It will likely be cheaper than airline fees, and you can insure it against loss and damage. The biggest advantage is not having to lug a heavy, awkward package through a crowded airport, wrestle it onto public transit, into cabs, or your rental car. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O Packing securing load
On of the most useful things for packing is the cargo net. Stretchy cord stuff of some kind, a hook at each corner. For an S24O, 2 panniers hold everything but my comfy, cushy, sleeping pad, that gets lashed onto the rear rack with the cargo net. Nets are also hand for stuffing odd bits under them, such as a jacket if you don't want to fuss with a bag. dougP On Sep 23, 10:27 am, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that has worked for me is to pack my tent poles separately from the rest of the tent. The tent can go in a pannier or saddle bag and the poles get lashed to whatever. Jay On Sep 23, 2:16 pm, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for how-to tips, tricks, guide, (good pictures would be very helpful) for packing and securing a S24O load on my Riv. I've tried to make out details from the tiny pictures on Riv's site but they simply aren't close-up enough. I have an Atlantis, front Wald basket, rear IRC rack, and a Carradice Nelson longflap. Plan on carrying sleeping pad bag, small tent, usual accoutrements for a one night outing. No, I don't have anyone nearby that does S240's or, touring, for that matter, to learn from. I discovered quickly that while I can pack a car tight tidy for a vacation, loading a bike up is another matter. For instance, if I move the tent to just behind the seat on the rear rack, and then put the Carradice bag behind it (for easy access) - how do I attach the bag to the rack? (it normally attaches to the seat)..for that matter what is the standard way to secure big stuff to the rack when not using panniers? Bungee cords?...3/8 braided rope?...giant velcro strips? By the way I'm looking for neat, simple ways, not massive ugly knots etc. Cheers, Robert Opalko- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] I need green help! No not money or enviro-tips: the paint color green
Steve: Thanks: you've gotten off to a great start with a couple of beautiful examples. I left a comment on your Flickr site. Anybody out there know the color of green on the Emerald Rivendell at this Flickr link? http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625808579123/comments/ Derek http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625808579123/comments/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:22 -0700, Derek Simmons wrote: After some repairs at the factory in Walnut Creek, I am having my Rivendell Redwood repainted. I would love links to green painted Rivendells IF there is also a picture link AND a name or code identifying the color of green. Fairway Green Metallic http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/3522508913/in/set-72157617915097787/ This was a standard color for the Riv 650B Mixte. I've been on the Joe Bell website and I think there are around a dozen colors called green with a paint chip the size of a stamp. Frankly, even if the chip were really really big, I would find it hard to choose a color I hadn't already seen used on a bike. By way of illustration of my difficulty, the color of green on a Redwood is close to Gecko Green on a VW Bug. But..you would never ever know that from looking at the paint chip of Gecko Green online. So..any and all green Rivendell help will be greatly appreciated. Actually, if you have pics and codes of other BOBish bikes, that too would be great. This Mercian is British Racing Green http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/images2/cc178-1Dscn1801.jpg used on many MGs, Jaguars, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Foss Tubes
The blue tape is rim liner. I took off the old liner, cleaned up the rim a bit and put on the new. Besides being a really nice shade of blue I figured it's all engineered to work together (and engineers don't do goofy things). I even looked around the net a bit before I bought them which led to their web site which had an installation manual. http://www.foss.com.tw/default.php?language=_eng Regards, Ray On Sep 23, 12:15 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I now have the right size tube in my possession, but am still perplexed about what to do with the role of two sided tape. What have others done - glued it to the rim tape, replaced the rim tape, glued it to the inside of the tire, created another dust catcher on a shelf, or tossed it out? michael, keeping the rubber side down and the sunny side up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heading to Walnut Creek
Are you interested in riding or just getting together? I'm thinking that you could borrow a couple of bikes from RBW on Saturday morning and we could all go for a ride. I wouldn't mind driving over with my son. After tomorrow's S24O climb in Mt. Diablo, I'll either say never again or will be eager to bring my son along so he can give it a no-pressure try. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Foss Tubes
Engineers don't do goofy things, but then they hand it off to the marketing department... On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: The blue tape is rim liner. I took off the old liner, cleaned up the rim a bit and put on the new. Besides being a really nice shade of blue I figured it's all engineered to work together (and engineers don't do goofy things). I even looked around the net a bit before I bought them which led to their web site which had an installation manual. http://www.foss.com.tw/default.php?language=_eng Regards, Ray On Sep 23, 12:15 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I now have the right size tube in my possession, but am still perplexed about what to do with the role of two sided tape. What have others done - glued it to the rim tape, replaced the rim tape, glued it to the inside of the tire, created another dust catcher on a shelf, or tossed it out? michael, keeping the rubber side down and the sunny side up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heading to Walnut Creek
Rene, the climb on Mt Diablo isn't going to be a big hard thing. You'll take your time, you'll make it, you'll have fun enjoying the view and seeing the sun go down, it'll be great. After tomorrow's S24O climb in Mt. Diablo, I'll either say never again or will be eager to bring my son along so he can give it a no-pressure try. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Foss Tubes
Oops, I meant to put a smily thing or an LOL after the engineer comment. :) On Sep 23, 6:43 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Engineers don't do goofy things, but then they hand it off to the marketing department... On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: The blue tape is rim liner. I took off the old liner, cleaned up the rim a bit and put on the new. Besides being a really nice shade of blue I figured it's all engineered to work together (and engineers don't do goofy things). I even looked around the net a bit before I bought them which led to their web site which had an installation manual. http://www.foss.com.tw/default.php?language=_eng Regards, Ray On Sep 23, 12:15 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I now have the right size tube in my possession, but am still perplexed about what to do with the role of two sided tape. What have others done - glued it to the rim tape, replaced the rim tape, glued it to the inside of the tire, created another dust catcher on a shelf, or tossed it out? michael, keeping the rubber side down and the sunny side up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heading to Walnut Creek
That is the plan! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Sep 23, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, the climb on Mt Diablo isn't going to be a big hard thing. You'll take your time, you'll make it, you'll have fun enjoying the view and seeing the sun go down, it'll be great. After tomorrow's S24O climb in Mt. Diablo, I'll either say never again or will be eager to bring my son along so he can give it a no-pressure try. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heading to Walnut Creek
Well we land at SFO at 10:00 and staying at mt diablo inn or something. Yes we plan on riding.. Enjoy your ride since I doubt we can get there that fast. You'll be fine Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sTeHNcQ4AHgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.