Re: [RBW] Ride Report
Brian, Lots of good advice on this-and there are a lot of opinions out there-in the book, Paleo Diet for the Athlete by Joe Friel. He tells how to calculate your carb and water intake for your specific body weight. Check it out. Rgz On Tuesday, January 31, 2012, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I did my second Populaire (100k) this past Saturday around Camano Island in WA. It was a fairly rain-free day, and I was able to get away from home for the morning, so I took advantage of it. I rode my AHH and had another trouble-free comfy Riv experience. I had just replaced the crank - formerly an XD 700 48/34t double. I put my older Suntour XC Pro crank with a 46/32t double config (left off a granny ring), and set it up a few nights before. I was glad for the slightly lower (32-32) gearing, as there were definitely hills on this ride. I also found that going between the former 170mm length of the Sugino to the 175mm Suntour didn't make much of an impact on me. It felt totally fine. I used both front and rear Acorn bags, and overpacked clothing, but ended up missing on the food side. This ride didn't have too many convenience stores, and I was on a roll to finish it with minimal stops. That was a mistake. I had done a lot of commuting the week before, and was pretty tired by Saturday. This was after a month off the bike (holidays, colds, etc...). I managed to meet up with a great chap who ran about the same pace, and we jabbered on and on until I started to realize all was not well. I had a bit of a pre-bonk at about the half-way point, and quickly ate some trail mix and a granola bar, and downed some water. This got me to about 95k, and then I really just lost my legs and felt dizzy. I made it in, but had to eat, and stop for more food/water on the way home so I wouldn't fall asleep. Hmmm - not too good at this longer ride nutrition stuff yet. Oh well, I have to get that sorted, as it was a great ride. Not a lot of traffic on the island, and I saw a couple bald eagles along the way - one really loud immature bird. Love this place!! PTPIH (pics to prove it happened): http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyqhJeH Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best barcons ever?
I used a set of Silver DT shifters on a Road Std rebuild. I love how they work. Downside is how easily they corrode. There is plenty of Summer sweat falling on that region and the plating on the parts is not up to the task. I took them apart and scrubbed thoroughly, re-lubed and put back on the bike. Hope they continue to do well. Your mod in the pics linked below looks great and would avoid any sweat issues. Definitely a keeper. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:01 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: So I love love LOVE Silver downtube shifters. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6794237087/in/photostream The clamps with the shims that come with are equally exciting for my Bombadil cockpit ideas. I feel like George Peppard I love it when a plan comes together -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3C5TpwjMZqEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which are more puncture resistant? Supremes vs Pasela TGs
Vittoria Randoneur Pro. The only tire I disliked riding on more than Marathons. Nearly impossible to puncture, nearly as impossible to mount. Iv'e talked to others who agree the only flat you'll get with a Vittoria Randoneur are pinch flats trying to get the damn things on or off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4y0jdvHoNasJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Which are more puncture resistant? Supremes vs Pasela TGs
+1. They wear like iron and ride that way too! On Tuesday, January 31, 2012, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Vittoria Randoneur Pro. The only tire I disliked riding on more than Marathons. Nearly impossible to puncture, nearly as impossible to mount. Iv'e talked to others who agree the only flat you'll get with a Vittoria Randoneur are pinch flats trying to get the damn things on or off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4y0jdvHoNasJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 68cm Atlantis + Traveling to NYC from Feb. 4 to Feb. 12
I hear a ride up to Mt.Tam! On Jan 30, 9:58 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Manny, you're most welcome. I've been thinking about shipping this bicycle minus wheels down for our next set of adventures in Marin County and beyond! On Jan 30, 10:35 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I want to ride this! Put me on the handlebars. Now you just need to start getting it dirty On Jan 30, 4:25 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully with the well-loved Atlantis I just inherited and am building up now (thanks Clif)! http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/6792554183/ Anyone want to go for a ride? :) Best, Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best barcons ever?
Thanks for the complement, but the cut down and rubberized mod is not mine at all. That's the way they come when you buy these thumbshifters. My idea is just to repurpose the levers and the clamps on different bikes. Now that you mention it, though, I have been doing a lot of sanding and polishing of aluminum bike parts lately, so I imagine I could make my own Silver barcons out of a set of downtube shifters, and then dip them in that blue rubber tool-handle goo. That's a great idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XMCbyCuidbAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report
Thanks, Robert - I'll check it out. I really think this one was water - didn't pee for quite a while, so that's a bad sign :) Brian On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:46 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Brian, Lots of good advice on this-and there are a lot of opinions out there-in the book, Paleo Diet for the Athlete by Joe Friel. He tells how to calculate your carb and water intake for your specific body weight. Check it out. Rgz On Tuesday, January 31, 2012, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I did my second Populaire (100k) this past Saturday around Camano Island in WA. It was a fairly rain-free day, and I was able to get away from home for the morning, so I took advantage of it. I rode my AHH and had another trouble-free comfy Riv experience. I had just replaced the crank - formerly an XD 700 48/34t double. I put my older Suntour XC Pro crank with a 46/32t double config (left off a granny ring), and set it up a few nights before. I was glad for the slightly lower (32-32) gearing, as there were definitely hills on this ride. I also found that going between the former 170mm length of the Sugino to the 175mm Suntour didn't make much of an impact on me. It felt totally fine. I used both front and rear Acorn bags, and overpacked clothing, but ended up missing on the food side. This ride didn't have too many convenience stores, and I was on a roll to finish it with minimal stops. That was a mistake. I had done a lot of commuting the week before, and was pretty tired by Saturday. This was after a month off the bike (holidays, colds, etc...). I managed to meet up with a great chap who ran about the same pace, and we jabbered on and on until I started to realize all was not well. I had a bit of a pre-bonk at about the half-way point, and quickly ate some trail mix and a granola bar, and downed some water. This got me to about 95k, and then I really just lost my legs and felt dizzy. I made it in, but had to eat, and stop for more food/water on the way home so I wouldn't fall asleep. Hmmm - not too good at this longer ride nutrition stuff yet. Oh well, I have to get that sorted, as it was a great ride. Not a lot of traffic on the island, and I saw a couple bald eagles along the way - one really loud immature bird. Love this place!! PTPIH (pics to prove it happened): http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyqhJeH Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Which are more puncture resistant? Supremes vs Pasela TGs
I had the vittorias and did not like the ride either. I actually had flats including a blown sidewall Dan Abelson On Jan 31, 2012 9:53 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: +1. They wear like iron and ride that way too! On Tuesday, January 31, 2012, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Vittoria Randoneur Pro. The only tire I disliked riding on more than Marathons. Nearly impossible to puncture, nearly as impossible to mount. Iv'e talked to others who agree the only flat you'll get with a Vittoria Randoneur are pinch flats trying to get the damn things on or off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4y0jdvHoNasJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast
Hello Michael Did you send your frameset to/from a USPS office in a box from your LBS? Regards Carl Otto Wollin Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:33:03 -0800 From: mhech...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast I have two experiences with shipping framesets and both times USPS was the lowest cost option, about $30 Texas to VT, if memory serves me right.. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vBy-tk-PyT8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast BIKEFLIGHTS.COM
Allright so I get in to the 108 - 130 inch with my measurments 54.3 X 31.5 X 11.8 inches (total girth is around 97 inches)? With up to 50 lbs it would be around 95 USD with http://www.bikeflights.com/bicycle_shipping.aspx Are you familier with bikeflights? Regards Carl Otto Wollin Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:22:02 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast From: speedyc...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Get the boxes down to avoid the next size hit, sign up for your own account with FedEx and do it from there. Helps reduce the cost. Drop it at the FedEx terminal. 130 girth is the max. A package weighing less than 50 lbs. and measuring more than 108 inches but less than 130 inches in combined length and girth will be classified by FedEx Ground as an Oversize 2 (OS2) package. The transportation charges for an Oversize 2 (OS2) package will be the same as a 50-lb. package being transported under the same circumstances. . An oversize charge of $45 per package will apply to any package measuring greater than 130” in length and girth. On Jan 28, 7:43 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello RBW What is the cheapest way to send two framesets with racks from Sacramento CA to Bilenly Cycle Works in PA. The frames are going to have couplers installed. The box is 54.3 x 31.5 x 11.8 Regards Carl Otto Wollin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 68cm Atlantis + Traveling to NYC from Feb. 4 to Feb. 12
Sweet! Who else wants to go up the hill? ;) On Jan 31, 11:42 am, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I hear a ride up to Mt.Tam! On Jan 30, 9:58 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Manny, you're most welcome. I've been thinking about shipping this bicycle minus wheels down for our next set of adventures in Marin County and beyond! On Jan 30, 10:35 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I want to ride this! Put me on the handlebars. Now you just need to start getting it dirty On Jan 30, 4:25 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully with the well-loved Atlantis I just inherited and am building up now (thanks Clif)! http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/6792554183/ Anyone want to go for a ride? :) Best, Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report
Love the ride report. I have yet to cross that threshold into randonneuring. Hopefully this summer can put me on the right path. Any suggestions to someone who would want to do something like this but with no prior experience? -Manny On Jan 31, 10:10 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Robert - I'll check it out. I really think this one was water - didn't pee for quite a while, so that's a bad sign :) Brian On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:46 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Brian, Lots of good advice on this-and there are a lot of opinions out there-in the book, Paleo Diet for the Athlete by Joe Friel. He tells how to calculate your carb and water intake for your specific body weight. Check it out. Rgz On Tuesday, January 31, 2012, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I did my second Populaire (100k) this past Saturday around Camano Island in WA. It was a fairly rain-free day, and I was able to get away from home for the morning, so I took advantage of it. I rode my AHH and had another trouble-free comfy Riv experience. I had just replaced the crank - formerly an XD 700 48/34t double. I put my older Suntour XC Pro crank with a 46/32t double config (left off a granny ring), and set it up a few nights before. I was glad for the slightly lower (32-32) gearing, as there were definitely hills on this ride. I also found that going between the former 170mm length of the Sugino to the 175mm Suntour didn't make much of an impact on me. It felt totally fine. I used both front and rear Acorn bags, and overpacked clothing, but ended up missing on the food side. This ride didn't have too many convenience stores, and I was on a roll to finish it with minimal stops. That was a mistake. I had done a lot of commuting the week before, and was pretty tired by Saturday. This was after a month off the bike (holidays, colds, etc...). I managed to meet up with a great chap who ran about the same pace, and we jabbered on and on until I started to realize all was not well. I had a bit of a pre-bonk at about the half-way point, and quickly ate some trail mix and a granola bar, and downed some water. This got me to about 95k, and then I really just lost my legs and felt dizzy. I made it in, but had to eat, and stop for more food/water on the way home so I wouldn't fall asleep. Hmmm - not too good at this longer ride nutrition stuff yet. Oh well, I have to get that sorted, as it was a great ride. Not a lot of traffic on the island, and I saw a couple bald eagles along the way - one really loud immature bird. Love this place!! PTPIH (pics to prove it happened): http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyqhJeH Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 12:11 -0800, Manuel Acosta wrote: Love the ride report. I have yet to cross that threshold into randonneuring. Hopefully this summer can put me on the right path. Any suggestions to someone who would want to do something like this but with no prior experience? 1. Join RUSA. When you do, you'll get a copy of the Handbook. Study it, it will answer most of your questions. 2. Ride long rides. Centuries are not only fun in and of themselves, they're nice training rides for longer distances. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nuance of the rebate system
This is a minor thing, and one that you've probably picked up on, but I missed it. If you were eligible you got a rebate. You can use that rebate whenever you like within 120 days, or it's gone. Moving forward, when you buy something, you get a rebate credit that you can use within 120 days. You'll carry a balance, and you choose when you use it and how much to use, etc. The thing I missed is that on any invoice where you use any rebate money, you don't earn rebate credit, no matter how big the invoice. Example. You have a tiny $5 rebate, and you want to buy something cheap, like a $6 tube, and something expensive like a $2000 Atlantis frame. If you put that on the same invoice, and use your rebate to pay for part of it, you get no rebate credit on your balance. Instead, the way you should do it (and Riv states it clearly on the rebate page http://rivbike.tumblr.com/rebates) is to put the tube on one invoice, use your rebate and pay then net $1. Buy the Atlantis on another invoice, so you get your $100 rebate credit. I went in to Riv HQ on a Saturday, and bought 4 things, used my rebate and paid ~$100 out of pocket. Had I split it into two invoices I would have about 5 bucks in my rebate account. Not a big deal for me, but it could be a big deal for you if you are going to throw together a big invoice and use your rebate on it. So the general guideline is that when you want to spend your rebate, try to do it on an invoice that totals up to something close to your rebate balance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ajjb4AseRGEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nuance of the rebate system
Hmm. I did not know that. Something tells me this new system won't last. If this is the way people have to use the system, Riv will now have a lot of little sales with very little revenue - it's going to be like The Price Is Right where the game is to get your shopping cart as close to $0.01 over your rebate as possible - and they will create twice as many orders and shipping tickets as everyone splits their purchases. I honestly never gave a thought to my rebate - it showed up as a gift in January. It was a very nice gesture of customer appreciation that required no effort on my part. But now it's a game where you have to pay attention or you won't get the credits, or they'll expire, etc. Now it's become all about what's being taken away, or not gotten in the first place. I'll probably just go back to not giving it a thought. -Pete in CT Loving his new-to-me Quickbeam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D-2Q8rHMzfMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Atlantis 58cm NIB $1950
58cm Toyo built Atlantis in special deep red paint. Brandy new and still in the box three years later. Never even had a wheel in the dropouts. Not a scratch with plastic protector still on head badge and painter's work tag still on rear dropout. I'm listing this for a friend with no computer who's lost interest and moved on to other projects. Photos available to interested parties. Priced less a new one in standard green color. Includes Riv-installed Shimano 105 headset. UPS Ground Shipping additional at cost. Please email off-list with questions. Thanks for looking! Elton Pope-Lance Natick, MA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nuance of the rebate system
This just sounds like a mistake. That is, I believe the situation is as you say, William, but it's foolish and ought to be fixed. It's pointlessly confusing, and will deprive some customers of rebates that Rivendell ought to be giving them. To be sure, a customer shouldn't get rebate credit on rebates. But they should get credit for the rest of their purchase. So, if I have a $100 rebate, and I buy a $3500 bike, I pay $3400 and my rebate covers the rest of the $100. The $3400 I paid should count as money I spent and should be eligible for rebate credit, because it *is* money I spent. I shouldn't have to buy the pedals on one order and the rest of the bike on another order just to get my rebate. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: This is a minor thing, and one that you've probably picked up on, but I missed it. If you were eligible you got a rebate. You can use that rebate whenever you like within 120 days, or it's gone. Moving forward, when you buy something, you get a rebate credit that you can use within 120 days. You'll carry a balance, and you choose when you use it and how much to use, etc. The thing I missed is that on any invoice where you use any rebate money, you don't earn rebate credit, no matter how big the invoice. Example. You have a tiny $5 rebate, and you want to buy something cheap, like a $6 tube, and something expensive like a $2000 Atlantis frame. If you put that on the same invoice, and use your rebate to pay for part of it, you get no rebate credit on your balance. Instead, the way you should do it (and Riv states it clearly on the rebate page http://rivbike.tumblr.com/rebates) is to put the tube on one invoice, use your rebate and pay then net $1. Buy the Atlantis on another invoice, so you get your $100 rebate credit. I went in to Riv HQ on a Saturday, and bought 4 things, used my rebate and paid ~$100 out of pocket. Had I split it into two invoices I would have about 5 bucks in my rebate account. Not a big deal for me, but it could be a big deal for you if you are going to throw together a big invoice and use your rebate on it. So the general guideline is that when you want to spend your rebate, try to do it on an invoice that totals up to something close to your rebate balance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ajjb4AseRGEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nuance of the rebate system
For the folks who do think about it, it encourages folks to give Riv a chance to sell them something every few months. I hope it works for them in that context. I've got a silly little $4 ebay bucks credit that expires on Feb 2, and it has me looking on ebay for something inexpensive to spend it on, so I guess it works on a particular type of person. Who's that cheap bastard I see in the mirror? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/czU-SReltP8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best barcons ever?
I like this idea! I like the mechanical feel of the silvers, but also feel that they're too long. Cutting them and dipping them wouldn't be too hard. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:04 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the complement, but the cut down and rubberized mod is not mine at all. That's the way they come when you buy these thumbshifters. My idea is just to repurpose the levers and the clamps on different bikes. Now that you mention it, though, I have been doing a lot of sanding and polishing of aluminum bike parts lately, so I imagine I could make my own Silver barcons out of a set of downtube shifters, and then dip them in that blue rubber tool-handle goo. That's a great idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XMCbyCuidbAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best barcons ever?
Or cut, file, polish, dip, twine, and shellac! David G, Madison WI On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I like this idea! I like the mechanical feel of the silvers, but also feel that they're too long. Cutting them and dipping them wouldn't be too hard. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:04 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the complement, but the cut down and rubberized mod is not mine at all. That's the way they come when you buy these thumbshifters. My idea is just to repurpose the levers and the clamps on different bikes. Now that you mention it, though, I have been doing a lot of sanding and polishing of aluminum bike parts lately, so I imagine I could make my own Silver barcons out of a set of downtube shifters, and then dip them in that blue rubber tool-handle goo. That's a great idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider
So to get into the tall riders club, is there a height bar like the amusement parks? You must be at least this tall to go on this ride. Kudos to Rivendell for producing bikes for everyone. My 5'-2 tall wife loves her 47 cm Atlantis. None of that ...XS-S-M-L-XL-XXL... sizing business. dougP On Jan 30, 10:03 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Geo Charts say a 72cm Homer has a 96.5cm standover. Guessing at the headset stack and the stem quill length, I'm getting the tips of your brakelevers up to just over 4 feet high. That's basically identical to my 3rd grade daughter's height. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best barcons ever?
Genius! ^^^ except you could probably skip 'polish' if you are going to dip+twine+shellac. I love the thought nonetheless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RuVz8JhqV50J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider
Just wandered into this couldn't resist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S66UW_0jqw Pre-Riv ad for lugged steel bike for a really tall guy. Great fun; enjoy. dougP On Jan 30, 4:54 pm, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Joining the chorus on this great tall bike. Would love to see it on the Tall Riders Flickr Group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/tallriders/ Hey, look at that - there's a Tall Rivendell Riders group! My Quickbeam might be only 66cm, but at 6'6 I think we qualify. I'll get an action cornering shot with some razor-thin pedal strike clearance, and post it up. And welcome, Jim, to the world of Rivendell frames. Nothing better for us big and heavy guys. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best barcons ever?
NOW you're talkin... Nice mod!!! On Jan 31, 5:58 pm, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Or cut, file, polish, dip, twine, and shellac! David G, Madison WI On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I like this idea! I like the mechanical feel of the silvers, but also feel that they're too long. Cutting them and dipping them wouldn't be too hard. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:04 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the complement, but the cut down and rubberized mod is not mine at all. That's the way they come when you buy these thumbshifters. My idea is just to repurpose the levers and the clamps on different bikes. Now that you mention it, though, I have been doing a lot of sanding and polishing of aluminum bike parts lately, so I imagine I could make my own Silver barcons out of a set of downtube shifters, and then dip them in that blue rubber tool-handle goo. That's a great idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 68cm Atlantis + Traveling to NYC from Feb. 4 to Feb. 12
Amit Good score on the Atlantis. What's up with the cross country trips. It was 51 today on the 31st of January in good old Michigan just ride one of your many, many, fine Rivs here. Let me know when you might head out to California again I am feeling a calling head out there soon (within next year). Sincerely, Ryan On Jan 31, 2:32 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet! Who else wants to go up the hill? ;) On Jan 31, 11:42 am, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I hear a ride up to Mt.Tam! On Jan 30, 9:58 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Manny, you're most welcome. I've been thinking about shipping this bicycle minus wheels down for our next set of adventures in Marin County and beyond! On Jan 30, 10:35 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I want to ride this! Put me on the handlebars. Now you just need to start getting it dirty On Jan 30, 4:25 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully with the well-loved Atlantis I just inherited and am building up now (thanks Clif)! http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/6792554183/ Anyone want to go for a ride? :) Best, Amit- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which are more puncture resistant? Supremes vs Pasela TGs
Wasn't freedom from flats exactly what the OP was looking for? I know some people are willing to accept the occasional flat if the tires offers exceptional comfort or speed or whatever. That's fine for them, I just want to get to work and home again without getting my hand dirty. FWIW, I have no problems mounting the Rando Pros, and have never pinch flatted one. I don't expect a flat resistant, 460 gm tire to ride like an Open CX, but I think the Rando Pros ride just fine for a sturdy touring or commuting tire a la Marathon. The Rando Hypers are lighter, faster, and still seem relatively flat resistant. They might be a better comparison to a JB. Bill On Jan 31, 7:19 am, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Vittoria Randoneur Pro. The only tire I disliked riding on more than Marathons. Nearly impossible to puncture, nearly as impossible to mount. Iv'e talked to others who agree the only flat you'll get with a Vittoria Randoneur are pinch flats trying to get the damn things on or off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nuance of the rebate system
I liked the old system better, but don't really care much. I'll just ignore the rebate situation and order stuff when I need it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N9NFOCktFGMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nuance of the rebate system
+1.Rebates are a bonus, so however Rivendell want to do them is OK with me. I won't be paying attention. On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:52:25 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: I liked the old system better, but don't really care much. I'll just ignore the rebate situation and order stuff when I need it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L3dpI3IXjNkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report
Manny, sfrandonneurs.org is your local chapter. They have an email list that is pretty extensive, and folks in the club love giving out useful advice. I believe there is a Populaire coming up at the end of March. Check the website, search the list. The best advice I can give now is eat and drink regularly, ride your pace on a bike that fits, and have fun. I've been riding with SFR for about six years now. Good group of people and great riding. Gabe On Jan 31, 12:11 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Love the ride report. I have yet to cross that threshold into randonneuring. Hopefully this summer can put me on the right path. Any suggestions to someone who would want to do something like this but with no prior experience? -Manny On Jan 31, 10:10 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Robert - I'll check it out. I really think this one was water - didn't pee for quite a while, so that's a bad sign :) Brian On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:46 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Brian, Lots of good advice on this-and there are a lot of opinions out there-in the book, Paleo Diet for the Athlete by Joe Friel. He tells how to calculate your carb and water intake for your specific body weight. Check it out. Rgz On Tuesday, January 31, 2012, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I did my second Populaire (100k) this past Saturday around Camano Island in WA. It was a fairly rain-free day, and I was able to get away from home for the morning, so I took advantage of it. I rode my AHH and had another trouble-free comfy Riv experience. I had just replaced the crank - formerly an XD 700 48/34t double. I put my older Suntour XC Pro crank with a 46/32t double config (left off a granny ring), and set it up a few nights before. I was glad for the slightly lower (32-32) gearing, as there were definitely hills on this ride. I also found that going between the former 170mm length of the Sugino to the 175mm Suntour didn't make much of an impact on me. It felt totally fine. I used both front and rear Acorn bags, and overpacked clothing, but ended up missing on the food side. This ride didn't have too many convenience stores, and I was on a roll to finish it with minimal stops. That was a mistake. I had done a lot of commuting the week before, and was pretty tired by Saturday. This was after a month off the bike (holidays, colds, etc...). I managed to meet up with a great chap who ran about the same pace, and we jabbered on and on until I started to realize all was not well. I had a bit of a pre-bonk at about the half-way point, and quickly ate some trail mix and a granola bar, and downed some water. This got me to about 95k, and then I really just lost my legs and felt dizzy. I made it in, but had to eat, and stop for more food/water on the way home so I wouldn't fall asleep. Hmmm - not too good at this longer ride nutrition stuff yet. Oh well, I have to get that sorted, as it was a great ride. Not a lot of traffic on the island, and I saw a couple bald eagles along the way - one really loud immature bird. Love this place!! PTPIH (pics to prove it happened): http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyqhJeH Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
