RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I guess I should have read more carefully, as I think 1996 when I think of 
ARs, and a lot of good things have happened to bikes since 1996. This newer 
Curt-built AR is a good price, if it fits... I'd be tempted if I didn't already 
have several bikes that fill that role. 

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Re: [RBW] Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

[Thomas Nezovich]

Bobby and others,  not all the Riv Rally East participants escaped the weather 
but we would have had we not ridden on Monday.  John Philip and my plans 
originally were to ride with the group to Connellsvile and bid them good by and 
turn around for our BB reservation in Rockwood.  With the bad weather 
predicted we decided to go no farther west than the Saturday destination of 
Confluence.  We breakfasted with the group and while they went farther west, we 
headed back east to Rockwood.  We managed to make the 20 miles there last 
nearly three hours.  Rockwood is small and not much was open on a Sunday.  We 
ate a couple of times at the Opera House and at supper a fellow who operates 
the Opera House and the Hostel on Main gave us a tour to the hostel.  It is 
very nice and inexpensive.  The Rockwood Trail House BB is nicer ( but more 
expensive) and I've stayed there before.  We spent much time watching weather 
TV and scanning weather sites on computer and knew we were in for some snow.

We awoke to a slight covering of wet snow and around 34 degrees.  Light snow 
was falling:  not too bad.  After a great breakfast we left expecting it to be 
worse when we got higher near the Divide.  It did get gradually snowier and 
windier.  The stretch between Meyersdale and Deal to the Divide was very snowey 
with probably 6 inches of snow on the ground.  It was very slow going in the 
snow:  5 or 6 mph with moderate falling snow but a tail wind.  Curiously, when 
we got through the Big Savage Mountain tunnel there was much less snow on the 
ground, less falling out of the sky and different winds.  The snow soon 
disappeared,  the trail was gravel again and the tail wind returned.  Our new 
problem then was we were cold.  The little downgrade allowed us to make 14 to 
16 mph on the way back to Cumberland but we were pretty damp from the efforts 
to reach the tunnel.  We made it back to the cars and managed to enjoy it and 
make it back home the same day.

I had some concerns about ride Hetres in the snow but they were not too bad.  
The snow riding was slow and level or slightly up hill though. The snow was 
gone by the time we were zipping downhill.

As Manny says, Pictures prove it happened, but you will need to wait for John 
Philip's post because I forgot my camera.
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip
 through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
 been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
 fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
 beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
 
 Our total rider count was 14, and folks came from as far away as
 Kalamazoo, Cleveland, Washington DC, Wilmington DE,  Bowling Green OH,
 Princeton NJ and Syracuse.  We had a great bunch, and the cross-
 section of Rivs was truly stunning... We had Saluki, Hilsen,
 Hillborne, Bombadil, Atlantis, Quickbeam, SimpleOne and Rambouillet...
 what a variety!!
 
 Friday night we assembled for dinner and a few beers in Cumberland,
 which is nestled in the mountains of western Maryland... beautiful
 country.  Four of our group had ridden ahead to Frostburg, 16 miles up
 the trail where we planned to meet on Saturday morning.  We were
 bracing for some pretty steady rain, and T-storms, according to the
 local weather forecast.
 
 Saturday morning we assembled at the Cumberland trailhead (where the
 CO Trail heads southeast to Washington, and the GAP Trail heads
 northwest to Pittsburgh).  There is excellent overnight parking
 (covered by the highway), very close to the trail.  We were wheels
 down by 8 AM, and hoping to get over the Eastern Divide by Noon.  The
 sun was shining brightly at this point... huh???  We were puzzled, but
 delighted nonetheless.  The ride up to Frostburg was gradual and not
 particularly difficult... but tedious.  I was glad to stretch my legs
 at Frostburg, where we grabbed sandwiches to go, and met up with 3 of
 the 4 lead riders (one other rider, Ken Peyton was attempting an early
 breakaway... and would successfully hold off the peloton clear into
 Confluence, our stayover destination).
 
 A short distance up from Frostburg we came to the (massive) Big Savage
 Tunnel, which extends more than 3000 feet straight through Savage
 Mountain.  This was IMPRESSIVE to say the least, and it was a blast to
 ride through.  Shortly after the big tunnel we reached the top of the
 Eastern Divide (certainly NOTHING LIKE the Western Divide, but for us
 it meant our pedalling would get a subtle boost on the downside).
 
 The weather became cooler and more overcast, with an occasional short
 spritz, but no rain as had been predicted.  The scenery along the
 trail was beautiful, including several high and long viaducts, the
 Salisbury being the longest at around 1900 feet... these were
 spectacular.  As we neared Confluence, the scenery got even prettier,
 and we began to follow the 

[RBW] Riv Rally East and SimpleOne

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

After the entirely justified derision I received over bar 
height/rotation/saddle tilt issues after posting some interim pics of my 
SimpleOne a few weeks back, I thought I'd post a couple of the final build, 
completed the night before Riv Rally East, which I hope will be more soothing 
to the group:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6960316848/sizes/l/in/set-72157629391118347/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107644857/in/photostream

As Steve Palincsar rightly pointed out at dinner Friday night before our 
Saturday departure, however, it may not be the best idea to finish a build the 
night before a 65 or 70 mile trail ride.  His advice proved accurate when, 
around lunch time Saturday, the bike's rider complained of a wobbly pedal, and 
when I checked it, the left crank arm came off in my hand.  And the crank bolt 
was missing!  But the gods were smiling -- we walked up the trail and found the 
bolt about 150 yards away, and a passing Boy Scout Troop leader was carrying a 
crank bolt wrench -- that's being prepared, for sure.  Even heedless 
knuckleheads (that's me!) catch a break now and again!







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[RBW] Re: Suspicious? Protovelo for sale on CL

[Dave Rivbike]

I know the story on this.

It was built by Scott States. He owns Discount Muffler and Brakes next
door to Riv HQ.
You may have seen the blue bike hanging there when you visited.
He built the frame to show his brazing skills.

I asked him about this and he told me to REPORT THE BIKE AS STOLEN.


d...@rivbike.com

On Apr 23, 4:12 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Say it ain't so!

 On Monday, April 23, 2012 11:40:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:









  Believe it or not, not everybody knows/cares what brand their handlebars
  are.

  On Friday, April 20, 2012 1:11:55 PM UTC-5, velobandit wrote:

  Hi everyone,
  I thought you all should know this... I came across this Protovelo ad
  on CL.  The owner knows nothing about this bike, not even the brand of
  the handlebars said that the bars had fancy emblems.
  Said she owned it for 2 years and longest ride was 20 miles in one
  day.  Do you know anything about this bike?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2922136213.html

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and SimpleOne

[Montclair BobbyB]

Tom:

I have to point out, nice bar height, and perfect tilt on that
saddle!!  Riding it provided the real proof... it's extremely
comfortable.
And considering you were prepping 3 bikes for this ride, I'd say your
mechanical reliability index still remains high, despite your quick-
release crankset...

BB

On Apr 24, 12:41 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:
 After the entirely justified derision I received over bar 
 height/rotation/saddle tilt issues after posting some interim pics of my 
 SimpleOne a few weeks back, I thought I'd post a couple of the final build, 
 completed the night before Riv Rally East, which I hope will be more soothing 
 to the group:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6960316848/sizes/l/in/set-7...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107644857/in/photostream

 As Steve Palincsar rightly pointed out at dinner Friday night before our 
 Saturday departure, however, it may not be the best idea to finish a build 
 the night before a 65 or 70 mile trail ride.  His advice proved accurate 
 when, around lunch time Saturday, the bike's rider complained of a wobbly 
 pedal, and when I checked it, the left crank arm came off in my hand.  And 
 the crank bolt was missing!  But the gods were smiling -- we walked up the 
 trail and found the bolt about 150 yards away, and a passing Boy Scout Troop 
 leader was carrying a crank bolt wrench -- that's being prepared, for sure.  
 Even heedless knuckleheads (that's me!) catch a break now and again!

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RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[Steve Palincsar]

On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:38 -0400, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
 I have Hetres on my Bleriot, but I don't think I could fit fenders on it. 

Not sure if the clearances vary with sizes.  The one I mentioned has the
wide SKS fenders, and they fit OK.



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[RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[Rick]

AR looks great to me, but I'd call RBW on the sizing issue, they'll
steer you in the right direction.

Side note:  Glad to read all this, what with the hetres sitting on the
dining room table and slotted for the bleriot (tonight?  this weekend
at latest), plus a plan to add fenders toward summer's end . . .

Rick
(The no-research looks like it would fit high-end tire purchaser.)

On Apr 24, 1:41 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:38 -0400, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
  I have Hetres on my Bleriot, but I don't think I could fit fenders on it.

 Not sure if the clearances vary with sizes.  The one I mentioned has the
 wide SKS fenders, and they fit OK.

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RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Steve P's and Jim T's notes led me to amble over to where my Bleriot is sitting 
and re-examine the brake bridge clearance.  I think a fender just might fit. 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

AR looks great to me, but I'd call RBW on the sizing issue, they'll steer you 
in the right direction.

Side note:  Glad to read all this, what with the hetres sitting on the dining 
room table and slotted for the bleriot (tonight?  this weekend at latest), plus 
a plan to add fenders toward summer's end . . .

Rick
(The no-research looks like it would fit high-end tire purchaser.)

On Apr 24, 1:41 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:38 -0400, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
  I have Hetres on my Bleriot, but I don't think I could fit fenders on it.

 Not sure if the clearances vary with sizes.  The one I mentioned has 
 the wide SKS fenders, and they fit OK.

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[RBW] Re: I could very possibly be talked into trading my A Homer Hilsen

[allenmichael]

I have a 56 Atlantis that I might consider swapping for a 59 Hilsen.

On Apr 23, 8:16 pm, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote:
 man, every time I look at the Hunqapillar with the gray/kidney color scheme
 it speaks to me. I just love the look and attitude of that bike more and
 more every time I see it. When I was deciding what to get I kept going back
 and forth between the Sam and the Homer, but all along I was overlooking
 the bike that I now really wish I owned. This is nothing against my Homer.
 It is a great bike, better than great, but I feel like the Hunqapllar is me.

 Anyway, this is not an overly serious trade request, but if someone out
 there had a 54 Hunq and was wanting to try a 59 Homer, well, I would be
 open to discussing the possibilities.

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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[Norman Bone]

Hi Jim-

Could you expand on what 'good things happened to bikes' (Riv ARs) since 1996?

-Norm in PDX




 From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:12 AM
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring
 
I guess I should have read more carefully, as I think 1996 when I think of 
ARs, and a lot of good things have happened to bikes since 1996. This newer 
Curt-built AR is a good price, if it fits... I'd be tempted if I didn't already 
have several bikes that fill that role. 

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[RBW] Re: Suspicious? Protovelo for sale on CL

[Joe Bernard]

This story gets weirder by the minute. I texted Karla. I think she's mad 
at me...
 
Joe Is it something I said? Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:29:54 AM UTC-7, Dave Rivbike wrote:

 I know the story on this. 

 It was built by Scott States. He owns Discount Muffler and Brakes next 
 door to Riv HQ. 
 You may have seen the blue bike hanging there when you visited. 
 He built the frame to show his brazing skills. 

 I asked him about this and he told me to REPORT THE BIKE AS STOLEN. 


 d...@rivbike.com 

 On Apr 23, 4:12 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  Say it ain't so! 
  
  On Monday, April 23, 2012 11:40:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery 
  wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Believe it or not, not everybody knows/cares what brand their 
 handlebars 
   are. 
  
   On Friday, April 20, 2012 1:11:55 PM UTC-5, velobandit wrote: 
  
   Hi everyone, 
   I thought you all should know this... I came across this Protovelo ad 
   on CL.  The owner knows nothing about this bike, not even the brand 
 of 
   the handlebars said that the bars had fancy emblems. 
   Said she owned it for 2 years and longest ride was 20 miles in one 
   day.  Do you know anything about this bike? 
  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2922136213.html

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[RBW] Interested in purchasing

[ackracer]

Hello all,

Should anyone be considering parting with their All-Rounder, or
Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are
not important.

Thank you,
-John
413.387.7690

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[RBW] Re: 46cm to 44cm Noodles?

[BCDrums]

How about this randonneur bar from Nitto at Harris Cyclery:
http://harriscyclery.net/product/nitto-randonneur-handlebar-45-cm-width-1347.htm

It's a third less expensive than the GB, and it comes in 42  45cm
widths. I am using the 45 and I like it.

BC

On Apr 22, 9:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 $$$, or lack thereof.









 On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
  On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 15:20 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
   I am looking for something much like this:

  http://www.compasscycle.com/handlebars_gb_rand.html

  So what's wrong with exactly that one?

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[RBW] FS: Nitto M12 front rack with Nitto canti studs.

[stoker]

Hi All -

I have for sale a Nitto M12 rack - it was used for about a week. It
appears to be unused. I am including a pair of Nitto cantilever
adapter studs that allow the proper use of both rack and cantilevers
on your bike.

I will also include all washers and a recessed brake bolt (for the rod
that inserts into the brake hole in the fork crown).

$105.00 shipped CONUS. PayPal only please - Thanks all!

Bob

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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifters issue

[Bob Cooper]

I too suspect a thicker washer is the solution.

Counterintuitively, sometimes when mechanical things slip, the
solution is to apply a thin layer of oil or grease to every metal-to-
metal interface including both sides of all washers and to all
threads. This enables you to tighten them more.

It would be tempting to put a wrench on the D-ring, but I wouldn’t do
that without a trained mechanic present, as it would be easy to bend
or break the ring.

Bob “With Several Set of Silvers and Suntours” Cooper

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

[AndyBikeman]

Thanks to Bobby and all the rest of the guys for making me (a borrowed
LHTrucker rider) feel welcome. I had a wonderful time was so glad to
be bitten by the Riv-Bug. Also thanks to all of the posters with the
great photos. Nice panoramas Steve! I enjoyed meeting and riding with
you all. I look forward to the next time we can all ride together
again.

On Apr 23, 6:53 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 07:21 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
  Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip
  through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
  been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
  fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
  beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.

 I've been listening to today's weather reports, hearing about the 4-5
 inches of snow at Frostburg today, squealing with delight like a Geico
 piggy...  Whee!!!

 I've added photos from Day 2 to my set of Riv Rally East 2012 
 photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157629882288771/show/

 Say, Bobby, do you think we might set up a group pool for everyone's
 photos, the way we did with last year's?  As many cameras as were in
 evidence, I can hardly wait to see what everyone else captured.

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[fxguy]

Thanks for all the super-helpful comments - and especially for noticing it 
is indeed a 700 and not a 26.  It may be too small in this case. :(

I'm gonna take a look and hope it fits. Would be a shame if it doesn't, 
since I agree with everyone else its beautiful.

If it is a BIT short...is there anything I could consider doing? With a PBH 
of 88, I think that means a 60.  

About the bleriot btw - I looked at the original booklet here 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/bleriot_bro.pdf  and at 88 PBH, I'm right 
between the 59 and 61.

Thanks to all - hoping to join ya for real soon. :)

Matt Bouchard

On Monday, April 23, 2012 1:54:45 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 The All Rounder was posted on the list: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/UYlvtXpdN8Q,
  which confirms it's 700. I think it's probably too small for you but take 
 it for a test drive and see.

 On SF CL there's a Bleriot that's probably more your size: 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/2932077264.html

 Good luck!

 jim m
 wc ca

 On Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:04:22 PM UTC-7, fxguy wrote:

 I'm looking at finally getting a Rivendell after many years...and I've 
 mostly decided to go the used route, in part for cost, but also the 
 Hillbourne I wanted is no longer available in single top tube. 

 I'd like someone's opinion on two used bikes: a 2003 all rounder vs 
 the Bleriot a member here has posted to ebay. I have a 88 PBH and I 
 believe both would be a good fit. 

 Bleriot: 
  
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/130682698514?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648#ht_750wt_1378
  

 All Rounder: 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2971787319.html 

 Specifically, I will be doing a San Francisco to Santa Barbara light 
 tour in a few months.  I like the idea of the 650B tires, but am less 
 sure about 26. I currently ride a Cannondale R2000 racing bike which 
 isn't gonna work. 

 I'd appreciate someone from this groups opinion, even if you tell me I 
 should just try to buy a new one; I've always wanted the Atlantis..but 
 times are a bit lean these days for me. 

 cheers, 
 Matt Bouchard 
 San Francisco



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[RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[bicyclebill]

I have the very same Bleriot (including same size) and love it.  The
650B's are great and I've discovered a surprising number of great
tires out there.  The one thing that I would have liked is canti
brakes, so the All-Rounder gets the edge there.  Also, the A-R appears
to be a complete bike whereas the Bleriot (though cheaper) is not.
Also note the size difference: the Bleriot is 57cm c-c and 59 cm c-t.
The A-R is listed as 57.5 cm c-t, so is a slightly smaller frame.

On Apr 23, 3:10 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, I'll correct myself:   Synergies are available in 26.

 However, this is a 700c bike.    I zoomed in on one of the tire pics, and
 it's wearing 700cx37 Pasela TG tires.

 Nice bike.  Get it.   :)



 On Monday, April 23, 2012 3:05:44 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote:

  Er

  Isn't this All-Rounder a 700c?    Those are Synergy rims;  I know
  Synergies are available as a 700c and a 650b rim, but I don't think they
  have 26 Synergies.

  I could be wrong, of course, but, it looks like a 700c, not a 26...

  -L

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[RBW] Re: Sugestions for rain proofing Brooks saddles

[Shifty]

Uhhh, that's B17, not B72. 

On Monday, April 23, 2012 10:55:22 AM UTC-5, Shifty wrote:

 It's spring and in Minnesota, that means rain and on occasion; snow. For 
 years ridden with the supplied Brooks saddle rain cover but have never used 
 it, thankfully. It doesn't look like it would do much in a downpour, 
 however given the tight fit on my B72s (3  of 'em)). Has anybody used one 
 of these: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s92.htm? Thoughts?

 Seems like good insurance because it covers the underside. I have SKS 
 Longboard fenders and maybe this'd be overkill but in a typical downpour, I 
 think every element helps. 

 Cheers, Shifty


On Monday, April 23, 2012 10:55:22 AM UTC-5, Shifty wrote:

 It's spring and in Minnesota, that means rain and on occasion; snow. For 
 years ridden with the supplied Brooks saddle rain cover but have never used 
 it, thankfully. It doesn't look like it would do much in a downpour, 
 however given the tight fit on my B72s (3  of 'em)). Has anybody used one 
 of these: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s92.htm? Thoughts?

 Seems like good insurance because it covers the underside. I have SKS 
 Longboard fenders and maybe this'd be overkill but in a typical downpour, I 
 think every element helps. 

 Cheers, Shifty


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Re: [RBW] Posts/replys to posts never show up

[CycloFiend]

Sorry to have passed this post through to the list at large - nicked the
wrong button on the Google Groups interface and there ya go.

But, it's probably not a bad idea to once again remind folks - if you are a
new member, or if you are an old member who has unsubscribed and resub'd
with a new email address, your posts are moderated.

Depending upon how you posted to the list, it may appear to have gone
through.  If you are reading this discussion via email (i.e. POP3 type
client such as Outlook or Mail) then you hitting REPLY will send an email,
or if you are viewing through a web browser, you will click POST.  Either
way, if it doesn't appear, it has not necessarily vanished.

From the context of most folks' comments, it seems that the most common post
POOF (as in disappearence) comes when folks are viewing via the web.  I
suppose it would be nice if the google groups would let folks know that
their post is awaiting moderation and I'll pass along that reminder to The
Google once again. 

But, here's a quick list of what generally won't get passed through:
- FS ads for non-Rivendell Type items
- Personal responses to sellers on items listed For Sale (as a reminder, the
default email response goes to the list at large, rather than to the
poster).
- Off Topic Posts or replies to Off Topic Posts.
- Comments that Posts are not showing up.

I've revamped the Intro paragraph which appears on the Group web page to
reflect this info as well.  My contact info also appears there, if you
really are having a hard time getting things posted. The Cyclofiend at gmail
address is actually the best to use for me.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

[Marc Irwin]

I didn't quite escape!  I woke up in my tent at the Ohiopyle campground 
under a pile of snow on Monday morning,  Oh well, I'm from Michigan, NBD. 
 I posted a few picks and a recount here on my 
bloghttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2012/04/riv-rally-east-2012.html. 
 Thanks for putting this together Bobby, it was a blast!

Marc

On Monday, April 23, 2012 10:21:12 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip 
 through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's 
 been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a 
 fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the 
 beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail. 

 Our total rider count was 14, and folks came from as far away as 
 Kalamazoo, Cleveland, Washington DC, Wilmington DE,  Bowling Green OH, 
 Princeton NJ and Syracuse.  We had a great bunch, and the cross- 
 section of Rivs was truly stunning... We had Saluki, Hilsen, 
 Hillborne, Bombadil, Atlantis, Quickbeam, SimpleOne and Rambouillet... 
 what a variety!! 

 Friday night we assembled for dinner and a few beers in Cumberland, 
 which is nestled in the mountains of western Maryland... beautiful 
 country.  Four of our group had ridden ahead to Frostburg, 16 miles up 
 the trail where we planned to meet on Saturday morning.  We were 
 bracing for some pretty steady rain, and T-storms, according to the 
 local weather forecast. 

 Saturday morning we assembled at the Cumberland trailhead (where the 
 CO Trail heads southeast to Washington, and the GAP Trail heads 
 northwest to Pittsburgh).  There is excellent overnight parking 
 (covered by the highway), very close to the trail.  We were wheels 
 down by 8 AM, and hoping to get over the Eastern Divide by Noon.  The 
 sun was shining brightly at this point... huh???  We were puzzled, but 
 delighted nonetheless.  The ride up to Frostburg was gradual and not 
 particularly difficult... but tedious.  I was glad to stretch my legs 
 at Frostburg, where we grabbed sandwiches to go, and met up with 3 of 
 the 4 lead riders (one other rider, Ken Peyton was attempting an early 
 breakaway... and would successfully hold off the peloton clear into 
 Confluence, our stayover destination). 

 A short distance up from Frostburg we came to the (massive) Big Savage 
 Tunnel, which extends more than 3000 feet straight through Savage 
 Mountain.  This was IMPRESSIVE to say the least, and it was a blast to 
 ride through.  Shortly after the big tunnel we reached the top of the 
 Eastern Divide (certainly NOTHING LIKE the Western Divide, but for us 
 it meant our pedalling would get a subtle boost on the downside). 

 The weather became cooler and more overcast, with an occasional short 
 spritz, but no rain as had been predicted.  The scenery along the 
 trail was beautiful, including several high and long viaducts, the 
 Salisbury being the longest at around 1900 feet... these were 
 spectacular.  As we neared Confluence, the scenery got even prettier, 
 and we began to follow the river more closely.  As Confluence loomed a 
 mile or two ahead, the skies grew darker, and the last 1-2 miles to 
 the Paddlers Lane House (where most of us were staying) were into a 
 miserable headwind with steady rain.  This is the first time I had to 
 stop and actually put on my rain gear.  But once inside the house, we 
 dried quickly and forgot all about the rain.  Our hosts were very 
 accommodating, and generously loaned us their car to drive into town 
 to pick up our other 2 riders (who were staying at 'overflow' 
 accommodations), grab a stack o pizzas and a few sixpacks of beer 
 the perfect ending to a perfect riding day. 

 Sunday morning was overcast and noticeably colder, but still very good 
 riding conditions.  After a huge breakfast in Confluence at the local 
 breakfast favorite, 12 of the 14 set off for Ohiopyle, while John 
 Philip and Tom Nezovich headed back for Cumberland, which they planned 
 to split into 2 days.  The forecast was calling for snow Sunday night, 
 so there was a slight chance they would get caught in snow Monday 
 morning, or at least a nasty, wintry mix... I'll have to wait to hear 
 how they made out. 

 Meanwhile we rode into Ohiopyle (the veritable nerve center of the GAP 
 trail, and a haven for kayakers and rafters).  We had arranged for a 
 tour of Frank Llloyd Wright's Fallingwater, which was amazing as 
 usual, and then decided (due to a lack of time and a nasty forecast) 
 to get shuttled back to Cumberland from Ohiopyle (instead of riding 
 the additional 16 miles to Connellsville and risk getting caught in 
 bad weather).  It turned out to be a wise choice. 

 I could go on and on about this weekend, but I'll let others chime 
 in... GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, awesome bicycles, and a spectacular 
 route... Everything went better than expected, so I couldn't be 
 happier.  I trust others enjoyed this as much as I.  We WILL do more 

Re: [RBW] Posts/replys to posts never show up

[Michael Hechmer]

Jim, I don't think I fall into any of the categories you have suggested.  I 
wonder if perhaps there is a transmission delay and the window gets closed 
or refreshed before the transmission is complete?

Michael

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:16:01 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Sorry to have passed this post through to the list at large - nicked the
 wrong button on the Google Groups interface and there ya go.

 But, it's probably not a bad idea to once again remind folks - if you are a
 new member, or if you are an old member who has unsubscribed and resub'd
 with a new email address, your posts are moderated.

 Depending upon how you posted to the list, it may appear to have gone
 through.  If you are reading this discussion via email (i.e. POP3 type
 client such as Outlook or Mail) then you hitting REPLY will send an 
 email,
 or if you are viewing through a web browser, you will click POST.  Either
 way, if it doesn't appear, it has not necessarily vanished.

 From the context of most folks' comments, it seems that the most common 
 post
 POOF (as in disappearence) comes when folks are viewing via the web.  I
 suppose it would be nice if the google groups would let folks know that
 their post is awaiting moderation and I'll pass along that reminder to The
 Google once again. 

 But, here's a quick list of what generally won't get passed through:
 - FS ads for non-Rivendell Type items
 - Personal responses to sellers on items listed For Sale (as a reminder, 
 the
 default email response goes to the list at large, rather than to the
 poster).
 - Off Topic Posts or replies to Off Topic Posts.
 - Comments that Posts are not showing up.

 I've revamped the Intro paragraph which appears on the Group web page to
 reflect this info as well.  My contact info also appears there, if you
 really are having a hard time getting things posted. The Cyclofiend at 
 gmail
 address is actually the best to use for me.

 Hope that sheds a little bit o' light on the subject.

 - Jim / List Admin

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[RBW] Re: Suspicious? Protovelo for sale on CL

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Somebody just posted a warning ad on SFCL: 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2976672081.html

The plot thickens! 

Hopefully referred to SFPD to handle. Or do they not do as good a job as 
Santa Fe, NM sheriff's deputies? :-)

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:50:16 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 This story gets weirder by the minute. I texted Karla. I think she's mad 
 at me...
  
 Joe Is it something I said? Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:29:54 AM UTC-7, Dave Rivbike wrote:

 I know the story on this. 

 It was built by Scott States. He owns Discount Muffler and Brakes next 
 door to Riv HQ. 
 You may have seen the blue bike hanging there when you visited. 
 He built the frame to show his brazing skills. 

 I asked him about this and he told me to REPORT THE BIKE AS STOLEN. 



 On Apr 23, 4:12 pm, 
 wrote: 
  Say it ain't so! 
  
  On Monday, April 23, 2012 11:40:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery 
  wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Believe it or not, not everybody knows/cares what brand their 
 handlebars 
   are. 
  
   On Friday, April 20, 2012 1:11:55 PM UTC-5, velobandit wrote: 
  
   Hi everyone, 
   I thought you all should know this... I came across this Protovelo 
 ad 
   on CL.  The owner knows nothing about this bike, not even the brand 
 of 
   the handlebars said that the bars had fancy emblems. 
   Said she owned it for 2 years and longest ride was 20 miles in one 
   day.  Do you know anything about this bike? 
  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2922136213.html



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Re: [RBW] Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

[Thomas Nezovich]

John Philip provides this link that shows some snow shots: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157629525386656/
On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Thomas Nezovich wrote:

 Bobby and others,  not all the Riv Rally East participants escaped the 
 weather but we would have had we not ridden on Monday.  John Philip and my 
 plans originally were to ride with the group to Connellsvile and bid them 
 good by and turn around for our BB reservation in Rockwood.  With the bad 
 weather predicted we decided to go no farther west than the Saturday 
 destination of Confluence.  We breakfasted with the group and while they went 
 farther west, we headed back east to Rockwood.  We managed to make the 20 
 miles there last nearly three hours.  Rockwood is small and not much was open 
 on a Sunday.  We ate a couple of times at the Opera House and at supper a 
 fellow who operates the Opera House and the Hostel on Main gave us a tour to 
 the hostel.  It is very nice and inexpensive.  The Rockwood Trail House BB 
 is nicer ( but more expensive) and I've stayed there before.  We spent much 
 time watching weather TV and scanning weather sites on computer and knew we 
 were in for some snow.
 
 We awoke to a slight covering of wet snow and around 34 degrees.  Light snow 
 was falling:  not too bad.  After a great breakfast we left expecting it to 
 be worse when we got higher near the Divide.  It did get gradually snowier 
 and windier.  The stretch between Meyersdale and Deal to the Divide was very 
 snowey with probably 6 inches of snow on the ground.  It was very slow going 
 in the snow:  5 or 6 mph with moderate falling snow but a tail wind.  
 Curiously, when we got through the Big Savage Mountain tunnel there was much 
 less snow on the ground, less falling out of the sky and different winds.  
 The snow soon disappeared,  the trail was gravel again and the tail wind 
 returned.  Our new problem then was we were cold.  The little downgrade 
 allowed us to make 14 to 16 mph on the way back to Cumberland but we were 
 pretty damp from the efforts to reach the tunnel.  We made it back to the 
 cars and managed to enjoy it and make it back home the same day.
 
 I had some concerns about ride Hetres in the snow but they were not too bad.  
 The snow riding was slow and level or slightly up hill though. The snow was 
 gone by the time we were zipping downhill.
 
 As Manny says, Pictures prove it happened, but you will need to wait for 
 John Philip's post because I forgot my camera.
 On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
 
 Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip
 through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
 been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
 fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
 beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
 
 Our total rider count was 14, and folks came from as far away as
 Kalamazoo, Cleveland, Washington DC, Wilmington DE,  Bowling Green OH,
 Princeton NJ and Syracuse.  We had a great bunch, and the cross-
 section of Rivs was truly stunning... We had Saluki, Hilsen,
 Hillborne, Bombadil, Atlantis, Quickbeam, SimpleOne and Rambouillet...
 what a variety!!
 
 Friday night we assembled for dinner and a few beers in Cumberland,
 which is nestled in the mountains of western Maryland... beautiful
 country.  Four of our group had ridden ahead to Frostburg, 16 miles up
 the trail where we planned to meet on Saturday morning.  We were
 bracing for some pretty steady rain, and T-storms, according to the
 local weather forecast.
 
 Saturday morning we assembled at the Cumberland trailhead (where the
 CO Trail heads southeast to Washington, and the GAP Trail heads
 northwest to Pittsburgh).  There is excellent overnight parking
 (covered by the highway), very close to the trail.  We were wheels
 down by 8 AM, and hoping to get over the Eastern Divide by Noon.  The
 sun was shining brightly at this point... huh???  We were puzzled, but
 delighted nonetheless.  The ride up to Frostburg was gradual and not
 particularly difficult... but tedious.  I was glad to stretch my legs
 at Frostburg, where we grabbed sandwiches to go, and met up with 3 of
 the 4 lead riders (one other rider, Ken Peyton was attempting an early
 breakaway... and would successfully hold off the peloton clear into
 Confluence, our stayover destination).
 
 A short distance up from Frostburg we came to the (massive) Big Savage
 Tunnel, which extends more than 3000 feet straight through Savage
 Mountain.  This was IMPRESSIVE to say the least, and it was a blast to
 ride through.  Shortly after the big tunnel we reached the top of the
 Eastern Divide (certainly NOTHING LIKE the Western Divide, but for us
 it meant our pedalling would get a subtle boost on the downside).
 
 The weather became cooler and more overcast, with an occasional short
 spritz, but no rain as had been predicted.  The scenery along the
 trail was 

Re: RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot -Hetres w/ fenders

[Joan Oppel]

I have SKS fenders on my Bleriot with Hetres, the combination has been on the bike for years. No problem at all.On 04/24/12, Allingham II, Thomas Jthomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:I have Hetres on my Bleriot, but I don't think I could fit fenders on it. -Original Message-From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve PalincsarSent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:02 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touringOn Tue, 2012-04-24 at 04:13 -0700, islaysteve wrote: Wihtout reference to size, I don't think you'd be disappointed in the  Bleriot at all.  And between the two you originally posted, you'd save  $1000, which isn't trivial.  Granted the All Rounder is very nice  looking.  The Bleriot is a very pretty bike. For the savings, you  could have it painted.  Bleriot takes at least 38 tires, with fenders  I believe.  Maybe wider.I know someone who has Hetres on her Bleriot.--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.--To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein.This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof.Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request.==-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



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[RBW] Just Ride makes the cut...

[Will]

Several weeks ago I requested our public library purchase *Just Ride*, and 
they did: 2 copies (so far). 

Riv fans in Madison WI... check it out! Maybe the library system will buy 
more copies. 

Will

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[RBW] Re: Grant at the New Amsterdam Bike Show

[Norman]

The official program and schedule is out and Grant's appearance is
confirmed at 1 pm on Sunday.  Bike Snob is the day before at 4.  I
didn't make the dramatic RRE II but I'll hopefully be in NYC on
Sunday.
Norman

On Apr 22, 9:20 am, Melanie myol...@gmail.com wrote:
 See Grant at the NewAm Bike Show on Sunday Apr 29 at 1 pm!



 On Friday, April 20, 2012 1:22:10 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote:

  Grant mentioned in his Blug that he'll be at the New Amsterdam Bike Show
  next weekend in New York.  Will he speak or have book signing at the show?
   I've looked through the show's web site, but couldn't even find a general
  schedule.  Does anyone know his schedule at the show?

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[RBW] Re: Suspicious? Protovelo for sale on CL

[Joe Bernard]

If this is a scam, Karla doesn't seem to be in on it. Se insists she was 
fitted for the bike, and it's a Toyo. She also seems to think Discount 
Muffler's blue bike is still hanging on a wall there. Beats me.
 

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:49:35 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Somebody just posted a warning ad on SFCL: 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2976672081.html

 The plot thickens! 

 Hopefully referred to SFPD to handle. Or do they not do as good a job as 
 Santa Fe, NM sheriff's deputies? :-)

 On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:50:16 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 This story gets weirder by the minute. I texted Karla. I think she's 
 mad at me...
  
 Joe Is it something I said? Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:29:54 AM UTC-7, Dave Rivbike wrote:

 I know the story on this. 

 It was built by Scott States. He owns Discount Muffler and Brakes next 
 door to Riv HQ. 
 You may have seen the blue bike hanging there when you visited. 
 He built the frame to show his brazing skills. 

 I asked him about this and he told me to REPORT THE BIKE AS STOLEN. 



 On Apr 23, 4:12 pm, 
 wrote: 
  Say it ain't so! 
  
  On Monday, April 23, 2012 11:40:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery 
  wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Believe it or not, not everybody knows/cares what brand their 
 handlebars 
   are. 
  
   On Friday, April 20, 2012 1:11:55 PM UTC-5, velobandit wrote: 
  
   Hi everyone, 
   I thought you all should know this... I came across this Protovelo 
 ad 
   on CL.  The owner knows nothing about this bike, not even the brand 
 of 
   the handlebars said that the bars had fancy emblems. 
   Said she owned it for 2 years and longest ride was 20 miles in one 
   day.  Do you know anything about this bike? 
  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2922136213.html



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Re: [RBW] Riv Rally East and SimpleOne

[James Warren]

Thomas,I love that Simpleone.
I hope Rivendell uses the "slimey" green color again on a bike.
-Original Message- From: "Allingham II, Thomas J" Sent: Apr 24, 2012 9:41 AM To: "'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'" Subject: [RBW] Riv Rally East and SimpleOne 
After the entirely justified derision I received over bar height/rotation/saddle tilt issuesafter postingsome interim pics of my SimpleOne a few weeks back, I thought I'd post a couple of the final build, completed the night before Riv Rally East, which I hope will be more soothing to the group:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6960316848/sizes/l/in/set-72157629391118347/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107644857/in/photostream

As Steve Palincsar rightly pointed out at dinner Friday night before our Saturday departure, however, it may not be the best idea to finish a build the night before a 65 or 70 mile trail ride. His advice proved accurate when, around lunch time Saturday, the bike's rider complained of a wobbly pedal, and when I checked it, the left crank arm came off in my hand. And the crank bolt was missing! But the gods were smiling -- we walked up the trail and found the bolt about 150 yards away, and a passing Boy Scout Troop leader was carrying a crank bolt wrench -- that's being prepared, for sure. Even heedless knuckleheads (that's me!) catch a break now and again!






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[RBW] Interested in purchasing

[Leslie]

Take a look at the bike in the beautiful Rivendell thread...

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[RBW] Re: Interested in purchasing

[eflayer]

I know it is not the lugged thing you are looking for, but I do have a 
lovely 60cm Gunnar Sport with custom matching threaded Waterford curved 
blade steel fork. That has a 58 level top tube.
 
I am selling the frameset only. Nearly perfect black paint, just a couple 
of tiny nicks, and the smaller, more subtle decal set. Just in case.
 
 
Thanks, 
Eddie
On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:36:56 AM UTC-7, ackracer wrote: 

 Hello all, 

 Should anyone be considering parting with their All-Rounder, or 
 Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are 
 not important. 

 Thank you, 
 -John 
 413.387.7690


On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:36:56 AM UTC-7, ackracer wrote: 

 Hello all, 

 Should anyone be considering parting with their All-Rounder, or 
 Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are 
 not important. 

 Thank you, 
 -John 
 413.387.7690


On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:36:56 AM UTC-7, ackracer wrote: 

 Hello all, 

 Should anyone be considering parting with their All-Rounder, or 
 Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are 
 not important. 

 Thank you, 
 -John 
 413.387.7690


On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:36:56 AM UTC-7, ackracer wrote: 

 Hello all, 

 Should anyone be considering parting with their All-Rounder, or 
 Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are 
 not important. 

 Thank you, 
 -John 
 413.387.7690


On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:36:56 AM UTC-7, ackracer wrote: 

 Hello all, 

 Should anyone be considering parting with their All-Rounder, or 
 Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are 
 not important. 

 Thank you, 
 -John 
 413.387.7690

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Re: [RBW] Interested in purchasing

[Elton Pope-Lance]

Hi John,

I've got two possibilities:

- A brand new, never built, 58cm Atlantis frame set in red/cream for $1850.
- My 61cm red/cream Atlantis built as follows:
- 46cm Noodle Bars
- 9cm Nitto Technomic deluxe stem
- Brooks leather bar tape/honey
- Brooks B17 Special
- Ultegra headset
- Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost
- Shimano D-A 9spd bar end shifters
- Cane Creek SCR5 brake levers
- Phil Wood BB
- TA Zephyr 46-33-20 170mm triple crank
- SRAM 9spd PC971 chain
- IRD Alpina Triple FD
- Ultegra GS RD
- Schmidt SON28 front hub 36h
- Phil Wood cassette rear hub 36h
- Mavic A710/T520 rims w/DT Competition DB spokes
- 13-30 9spd cassette
- Schwalbe Marathon Racer 700x40 tires
- Supernova E3 Triple LED head light
- VO 700 x 28 fluted fenders
- Asking price $3200

I gather from the 413 area code that you are in western MA.   
I am just west of Boston.  My bike is available for test riding and the 58cm 
frame set is at Harris Cyclery for viewing.

Elton Pope-Lance
Natick, MA



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 Atlantis, please let me know.  I am 5'-11, 32 inseam...Cosmetics are
 not important.
 
 Thank you,
 -John
 413.387.7690
 
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[RBW] Re: Grant at the New Amsterdam Bike Show

[Montclair BobbyB]

Norm, we really missed you at RRE!!!

I would love to go to the show, but I'm enrolled in an important safe
motorcycle riding course all weekend.

BB

On Apr 24, 5:52 pm, Norman norr...@gmail.com wrote:
 The official program and schedule is out and Grant's appearance is
 confirmed at 1 pm on Sunday.  Bike Snob is the day before at 4.  I
 didn't make the dramatic RRE II but I'll hopefully be in NYC on
 Sunday.
 Norman

 On Apr 22, 9:20 am, Melanie myol...@gmail.com wrote:



  See Grant at the NewAm Bike Show on Sunday Apr 29 at 1 pm!

  On Friday, April 20, 2012 1:22:10 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote:

   Grant mentioned in his Blug that he'll be at the New Amsterdam Bike Show
   next weekend in New York.  Will he speak or have book signing at the show?
    I've looked through the show's web site, but couldn't even find a general
   schedule.  Does anyone know his schedule at the show?

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

[ascpgh]

Reinterations for all praise deserved for the whole event,
surroundings, collected riders  bicycles, and particularly Bobby for
the rare January motivation to get the wheels rolling on this great
weekend.

Initial crop of untagged photos:

https://picasaweb.google.com/asc.pgh/RivRallyEast2012?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCKeJm-Lc1_fzEAfeat=directlink

I rode on, after a long break in Ohiopyle, to meet my shuttle in
Connellsville. Bobby: it is a good bit less than an hour in the rain.
  We had arranged for a tour of Frank Llloyd Wright's Fallingwater,
which was amazing as
 usual, and then decided (due to a lack of time and a nasty forecast)
 to get shuttled back to Cumberland from Ohiopyle (instead of riding
 the additional 16 miles to Connellsville and risk getting caught in
 bad weather).  It turned out to be a wise choice.

ANDY
Pittsburgh

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and SimpleOne

[Joe Bernard]

What is protecting the toptube?
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:41:30 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  After the entirely justified derision I received over bar 
 height/rotation/saddle tilt issues after posting some interim pics of my 
 SimpleOne a few weeks back, I thought I'd post a couple of the final build, 
 completed the night before Riv Rally East, which I hope will be more 
 soothing to the group:
  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6960316848/sizes/l/in/set-72157629391118347/
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107644857/in/photostream
  
 As Steve Palincsar rightly pointed out at dinner Friday night before our 
 Saturday departure, however, it may not be the best idea to finish a build 
 the night before a 65 or 70 mile trail ride.  His advice proved accurate 
 when, around lunch time Saturday, the bike's rider complained of a wobbly 
 pedal, and when I checked it, the left crank arm *came off in my hand.  *And 
 the crank bolt was missing!  But the gods were smiling -- we walked up the 
 trail and found the bolt about 150 yards away, and a passing Boy Scout 
 Troop leader was carrying a crank bolt wrench -- that's being prepared, for 
 sure.  Even heedless knuckleheads (that's me!) catch a break now and again!
  
  
  
  
  
  

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

[Montclair BobbyB]

Andy, you are most valiant... Glad you made it before the snow.

Bobby

On Apr 24, 9:13 pm, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote:
 Reinterations for all praise deserved for the whole event,
 surroundings, collected riders  bicycles, and particularly Bobby for
 the rare January motivation to get the wheels rolling on this great
 weekend.

 Initial crop of untagged photos:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/asc.pgh/RivRallyEast2012?authuser=0auth...

 I rode on, after a long break in Ohiopyle, to meet my shuttle in
 Connellsville. Bobby: it is a good bit less than an hour in the rain.
   We had arranged for a tour of Frank Llloyd Wright's Fallingwater,
 which was amazing as

  usual, and then decided (due to a lack of time and a nasty forecast)
  to get shuttled back to Cumberland from Ohiopyle (instead of riding
  the additional 16 miles to Connellsville and risk getting caught in
  bad weather).  It turned out to be a wise choice.

 ANDY
 Pittsburgh

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[RBW] Re: Grant at the New Amsterdam Bike Show

[Manuel Acosta]

Darn I'm leaving NYC that Saturday. I guess I'll just see back in 
California.  I did want to have Eben sign my book while I'm here but alas 
it's fate has it's way my flight is leaving at 5! Darn

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[RBW] Re: I could very possibly be talked into trading my A Homer Hilsen

[Bill M.]

Have the Homer repainted grey/kidney?

On Monday, April 23, 2012 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, Scotty wrote:

 man, every time I look at the Hunqapillar with the gray/kidney color 
 scheme it speaks to me. I just love the look and attitude of that bike more 
 and more every time I see it. When I was deciding what to get I kept going 
 back and forth between the Sam and the Homer, but all along I was 
 overlooking the bike that I now really wish I owned. This is nothing 
 against my Homer. It is a great bike, better than great, but I feel like 
 the Hunqapllar is me.
  
 Anyway, this is not an overly serious trade request, but if someone out 
 there had a 54 Hunq and was wanting to try a 59 Homer, well, I would be 
 open to discussing the possibilities.


On Monday, April 23, 2012 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, Scotty wrote:

 man, every time I look at the Hunqapillar with the gray/kidney color 
 scheme it speaks to me. I just love the look and attitude of that bike more 
 and more every time I see it. When I was deciding what to get I kept going 
 back and forth between the Sam and the Homer, but all along I was 
 overlooking the bike that I now really wish I owned. This is nothing 
 against my Homer. It is a great bike, better than great, but I feel like 
 the Hunqapllar is me.
  
 Anyway, this is not an overly serious trade request, but if someone out 
 there had a 54 Hunq and was wanting to try a 59 Homer, well, I would be 
 open to discussing the possibilities.


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[RBW] Mounting Supernova E3

[Michael Williams]

Hey Group,   just wondering if anyone has experience mounting a
Supernova E3 light to a Marks Rack/M12/similar front rack.I looked
at the Boulder Bikes mount
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelux/Detail
and that seems like a good option.   Just wondering what peoples
experiences are.   thanks in advance-Mike

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