[RBW] Re: OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread IanA
I live in Canada and have bought a number of things on eBay and also this 
list.  Shipping is always a bit of an issue from the USA.  It is much 
easier here to deal with Canada Post/USPS than is to deal with the likes of 
FedEx or perhaps worse still UPS.  UPS, for example, has high brokerage 
fees for individual consumers, as do all the courier companies.  It's 
generally easier for people inside the USA just to use UPS, as USPS doesn't 
pick up.  Also, there are customs forms to complete for export.  These are 
simple, but I notice people would prefer not to have to deal with these.

Actually, it is often much easier for us in Canada to buy from Europe or 
the UK.  We can more easily arrange shipping through the Postal Service of 
whichever country and avoid using couriers. The postal services from Europe 
tend to be quite efficient.

And interestingly, for new products by Shimano or even Schmidt, it's often 
cheaper for us to buy from Europe. More choice too.  Shipping is often 
cheaper and the European suppliers are well prepared for export.  

However, the advances in randonneur or country-bike equipment seems to be 
made mostly in the US. Places like Compass Cycles, Rivendell, Velo Orange 
etc., seem to be fairly unique in this day and age, so for us non-CONUS 
folks, it would be nice to have economical and straight-forward shipping 
options.

But, at the end of the day, it really is more hassle to ship/receive 
outside of CONUS than within and so I think in these cases is there is no 
prejudice against people from outside the USA. In the case of the sale that 
you lost - the potential buyer was probably concerned about having to 
arrange customs clearance/pay duties and tax on the items.  I used to work 
in the freight industry and can tell you that brokerage charges in the US 
can be very high (even if the item is duty free).  For the most part, it's 
probably not worth the hassle except on low value items that would not 
require customs clearance (like $20 items).  





On Sunday, November 4, 2012 2:16:54 PM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 I have been fairly active on this list since I got my Sam last summer. 
 I have participated in discussions, bought and sold a few things 
 (including my Sam, thanks Forrest) and generally tried to be helpful 
 when I have something to add. I find the people here generally quite 
 knowledgable and friendly. It is a good groupvand I'm happy to be part 
 of it. 

 Once in a while, though, I have experienced something which to be 
 seems very strange and a bit insulting. A few times people have 
 refused to complete a transaction with me when they find out I live 
 overseas. Shipping costs have not been the issue, it seems more loke a 
 lack of willingness to trust a random foriegner on the internet. 

 I just lost a sale on another group in circumstances like those. The 
 buyer got the answeres he was looking for to his questions and then 
 balked when he saw thay my email wasn't from the US. 

 I feel like I'm missing something here. 

 Jay 


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[RBW] Re: OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Thanks for all the responses, on and off line.
I can only add that I have ordered many bicycle components and
accessories to the US from abroad, usually the UK, and never been
hassled by import regulations. I understand that US sellers may be
exposed to foreign buyers claiming, honestly or not, that goods didn't
arrive. It seems that Paypal protects buyers better than it does
sellers in that case, and that reasonably priced international
shipping from the US does not allow delivery to be confirmed. That was
news to me as I have always felt a bit exposed myself as a buyer and
having to pay in advance.

FWIW, I can ship a package up to 2 lbs to anywhere in the US
registered airmail for about $6 using my local post office. I do have
to go there, wait in line and fill in a short form. But that is my
hassle, not the buyer's.

Happy buying and selling to everyone. And riding.

Jay

On Nov 5, 10:41 am, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote:
 I live in Canada and have bought a number of things on eBay and also this
 list.  Shipping is always a bit of an issue from the USA.  It is much
 easier here to deal with Canada Post/USPS than is to deal with the likes of
 FedEx or perhaps worse still UPS.  UPS, for example, has high brokerage
 fees for individual consumers, as do all the courier companies.  It's
 generally easier for people inside the USA just to use UPS, as USPS doesn't
 pick up.  Also, there are customs forms to complete for export.  These are
 simple, but I notice people would prefer not to have to deal with these.

 Actually, it is often much easier for us in Canada to buy from Europe or
 the UK.  We can more easily arrange shipping through the Postal Service of
 whichever country and avoid using couriers. The postal services from Europe
 tend to be quite efficient.

 And interestingly, for new products by Shimano or even Schmidt, it's often
 cheaper for us to buy from Europe. More choice too.  Shipping is often
 cheaper and the European suppliers are well prepared for export.

 However, the advances in randonneur or country-bike equipment seems to be
 made mostly in the US. Places like Compass Cycles, Rivendell, Velo Orange
 etc., seem to be fairly unique in this day and age, so for us non-CONUS
 folks, it would be nice to have economical and straight-forward shipping
 options.

 But, at the end of the day, it really is more hassle to ship/receive
 outside of CONUS than within and so I think in these cases is there is no
 prejudice against people from outside the USA. In the case of the sale that
 you lost - the potential buyer was probably concerned about having to
 arrange customs clearance/pay duties and tax on the items.  I used to work
 in the freight industry and can tell you that brokerage charges in the US
 can be very high (even if the item is duty free).  For the most part, it's
 probably not worth the hassle except on low value items that would not
 require customs clearance (like $20 items).

 On Sunday, November 4, 2012 2:16:54 PM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:





  I have been fairly active on this list since I got my Sam last summer.
  I have participated in discussions, bought and sold a few things
  (including my Sam, thanks Forrest) and generally tried to be helpful
  when I have something to add. I find the people here generally quite
  knowledgable and friendly. It is a good groupvand I'm happy to be part
  of it.

  Once in a while, though, I have experienced something which to be
  seems very strange and a bit insulting. A few times people have
  refused to complete a transaction with me when they find out I live
  overseas. Shipping costs have not been the issue, it seems more loke a
  lack of willingness to trust a random foriegner on the internet.

  I just lost a sale on another group in circumstances like those. The
  buyer got the answeres he was looking for to his questions and then
  balked when he saw thay my email wasn't from the US.

  I feel like I'm missing something here.

  Jay

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[RBW] There is shiny metal under all that mess

2012-11-05 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I removed and cleaned my chain rings and cassette this weekend. Passed
a Porsche Carrera in traffic yesterday. Coincidence?

It seems that degreasing and oiling the chain once in a while is not a
good enough maintenance regime.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread Lyle Bogart
Looks great, Brian! I've been thinking about putting a harlequin wrap on
the bars on my atlantis. . . keep us posted on the video :)

Cheers!

lyle

On 5 November 2012 03:28, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHBVin

 Here are some pics of a harlequin (diamond) wrap I did on the 42cm Noodles
 I'm currently finding are perfect for me.  I put 3 coats of amber on maroon
 and yellow Newbaums tape.  This week will be testing it weather-wise, as it
 looks like lots of rain.

 I tried to do some video taping of this process, so after I learn how to
 edit and get it online, I'll hopefully be able to post a how-to.

 Brian
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: There is shiny metal under all that mess

2012-11-05 Thread Michael Hechmer
Agreed, especially with a triple, and extra especially if you ride in rain, 
on dirt roads, or as I have often done, both at the same time.

OTH, passing a Porsche Carrera is no big deal as they spend half their life 
in the shop (and the other half draining checkbooks!)

Michael


On Monday, November 5, 2012 4:18:10 AM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 I removed and cleaned my chain rings and cassette this weekend. Passed 
 a Porsche Carrera in traffic yesterday. Coincidence? 

 It seems that degreasing and oiling the chain once in a while is not a 
 good enough maintenance regime. 

 Jay 


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[RBW] Re: OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I've shipped a lot outside the US. Interestingly, Canada has been the most 
troublesome. I hear Canadian customs has a big backlog, and in my experience 
month-long waits for customs clearance are not uncommon. The biggest hassle is 
not the USPS paperwork, but the buyer being (rightfully) skeptical that his/her 
shipment is indeed forthcoming, and me having to urge them to be patient for 
another week (or two or three).

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[RBW] Re: OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The other issue, of course, is cost. For bulkier items that don't fit in a USPS 
Priority Mail envelope or small box, the shipping charge can be easily $30-60. 
I've had numerous international buyers cancel orders based on shipping quotes. 
I can sort of predict it, so it seems like wasted effort to go through the 
motions of the calculation.

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Re: [RBW] How many Rivendell bicycles have you owned?

2012-11-05 Thread Steve Park
I wish Elton was my size so I could buy his old bikes

2 previous:
56 orange Ram
55 Hilsen

0 current, but I'm holding out for a 55 Legolas.


On Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:17:47 PM UTC-5, Elton Pope-Lance wrote:

 I'm in for a few. . .

 Out:  Miss the 61 Atlantis and the Custom

 56 Atlantis (too small)
 56 Hillborne (never built up)
 61 Atlantis 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20909677@N05/sets/72157630175215774/
 59.5 2002 Curt built Custom Road (a tad small) 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20909677@N05/sets/72157630302375486/
 54.5 Atlantis (flipped) 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20909677@N05/sets/72157629168777131/

 In: All except the unbuilt Hunq in regular commuter rotation

 60 Quickbeam (winter bike) 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20909677@N05/sets/72157625727619871/
 60 Willbury 
 1995 Custom fixed gear (Waterford built - sweet) 
 http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/popelance30.htm
 58 Hunq (under construction for off-road)

 Elton Pope-Lance
 Natick, MA


  



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Re: [RBW] Ram 650b with Hetre conversion update 2--test ride, thumbs up!

2012-11-05 Thread Jim
Bike looks great. Could you describe what the front light mount is and 
where you got it?  Thanks.Jim D. Massachusetts

On Sunday, November 4, 2012 12:29:56 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:

 Here are pics of the conversion.  Sorry, because of the lighting,  I 
 couldn't get a good angle on the whole bike.

 Toshi

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/sets/72157631926815235/



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[RBW] Re: OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread Matthew J
Tip to those of you who experienced customs paper work items - set up a 
USPS account on line.  USPS has an amazingly easy to use web site that 
walks you through all the paper work issues.  
 
Some European cyclists being cyclists will try to get you to miscategorize 
the shipment to avoid the VAT - don't go along.  Find some other way to 
stick it to the man.
 
Currency conversion is not an issue with Paypal anyway.
 
Re - Jim Thill on the Canadian back log - recently experienced just that.  
Not sure what is happening as Canada used to be very quick.  

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Re: [RBW] New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread cyclotourist
That looks amazing, Brian!


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHBVin

 Here are some pics of a harlequin (diamond) wrap I did on the 42cm Noodles
 I'm currently finding are perfect for me.  I put 3 coats of amber on maroon
 and yellow Newbaums tape.  This week will be testing it weather-wise, as it
 looks like lots of rain.

 I tried to do some video taping of this process, so after I learn how to
 edit and get it online, I'll hopefully be able to post a how-to.

 Brian
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: A Bit of Rivendell History

2012-11-05 Thread Matthew J
Nice pics.  Pretty cool to have TR join your ride.
 
But having done 60 miles yesterday north of Chicago in 40s with a swirling 
wind, I have to smile at all those West Coasters wearing jackets and long 
pants in that brilliant sunshine.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I shipped an item to Canada not too long ago and was on the point of
refunding the buyer's money and giving the sale up as lost because of a
long delay; the wait must have been three weeks. It finally arrived and the
delay was undoubtedly this customs backlog.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tip to those of you who experienced customs paper work items - set up a
 USPS account on line.  USPS has an amazingly easy to use web site that
 walks you through all the paper work issues.

 Some European cyclists being cyclists will try to get you to miscategorize
 the shipment to avoid the VAT - don't go along.  Find some other way to
 stick it to the man.

 Currency conversion is not an issue with Paypal anyway.

 Re - Jim Thill on the Canadian back log - recently experienced just that.
 Not sure what is happening as Canada used to be very quick.

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[RBW] Re: Wood

2012-11-05 Thread Jonathan Poor
ted:

(sorry for delay, I've been digging out from Sandy) 

Well, the shifting is pretty good, but I think I needed to use that 
particular front derailleur to get it to work well. It's a Suntour 
Cyclone/Superbe continuous band mounted FD, with a very short cage.  If the 
angle of the cage isn't just right, I will occasionally throw the chain 
when shifting from the 26 to the 44.  Dialed in I have no worries. 
 Shifting up to the large ring usually requires at least a three cog shift 
in back.  If I'm feeling fit, I'll mostly use the big ring, and bail out to 
the 26 for hills, or off-road, or hauling a trailer and such.

As for how much is too much, I don't know. Sheldon Brown set up his 
Hetchins with a 50x28!  with a 12-28 9 speed in back.

(It was this bike that inspired me to try the Cyclotouriste as a double, 
but the 50 seemed too high to me.)

http://sheldonbrown.com/org//hetchins/index.html

close up:
http://sheldonbrown.com/org//hetchins/source/3.html



On Monday, October 29, 2012 8:14:19 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:

 Jonathan, as others have said lovely bike. But how is the front 
 shifting with that 18t gap? 
 When I was younger 10 or 11 (42-52 or 53) seemed standard, then 14 
 (39-53) became the norm, and then came the compact cranks with 16. 
 How big a jump do you think is too much? 

 I have a 650b Hilsen with a sort of half step set up (42-45 in front). 
 I have been considering going to something like a 30-46, but if an 18t 
 gap in front would work fine, well ... 

 thnks 


 On Oct 29, 6:52 am, Jonathan Poor jpoorra...@aol.com wrote: 
  Thanks for the compliments! 
  
  The big ring is a 44, so a 44x26 double (both chainrings are from TA), 
 and 
  the 6 speed cassette is 13-14-16-18-21-24. 
  
  The 44x13 is a surprisingly big gear, especially with the larger tires, 
 and 
  I find I can hang in a fast group just fine, 'cause I like to spin. I 
 joke 
  with the local tri-guys that the rims are made of carbon fiber 
  
  Braking: the pads are dura-ace cork pads meant to use on carbon fiber 
 rims. 
  The Braking is not super great, but adequate. The wood smoke aroma on 
 hard 
  braking is a plus. At first I used regular rubber pads, and the braking 
 was 
  better, but they generated an unpleasant melting rubber smell, and made 
  black streaks on the rims. 
  
  Toe straps: yes, these are set up a la Power grips. No toe clips, just 
 the 
  leather straps, set up so the strap goes diagonally from front outside 
 to 
  back inside. I tried powergrips, but I didn't like the extra hardware, 
 and 
  that you couldn't easily adjust between different shoes.  This is much 
  simpler, and lets me use my collection of old toe straps.  I find it is 
 the 
  ultimate float since you can move your foot fore and aft, in and out, 
 and 
  also swivel. I still like to be connected to the pedals sometimes. 
  
  Rims: Those are the Nashbar rims you remember.  Had them in my basement 
 for 
  years, before building the wheels.  So far the finish is holding up 
 fine. 
  No sign of wear. 
  
  Cheers! 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
For reference (I use Ortlieb Packer Pluses and Packers) the Large carries
33 l stuffed but not violated, the M 23 l ditto, and the flap 'n' strap
arrangements would probably allow at least 30% more for properly packaged
items. A pair of Packer Pluses carries 50 l, and the smaller front Packers
with extensions about 30 l the pair. Actually, I wonder about the last
figure, because my experience with the smaller fronts is that as a pair it
is hard to get more than I got into the Medium -- absolute volume is not
the same thing as usable space. Overall, I'm confident that, for groceries
at least if not peanuts or compressible clothing, the S-M easily holds as
much as one fully extended and stuffed Ortlieb Packer Plus.

I will add that, having recently owned a Hoss, the Medium tho' smaller (26
vs 23) provides at least as much usable room, perhaps because it is easier
to load without things falling out. It certainly has more usable carrying
room than a Camper Longflap at 24 l.

Given that the Green Riv doesn't really like rear loads over 25 lb, the M
ought to be just right. (Odd, since I've had lighter frames that could
easily handle 15 lb more.)

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:14 PM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:

 looks great. I have the large saddlesack and always wonder whether the
 medium might not be big enough. Pics make it seem like the medium would
 carry enough 99% of the time.

 On Friday, November 2, 2012 3:06:35 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Back from the grocery store with S-M containing:

 Gal Mlk
 5 lb bg pttos
 Dz Egs
 Bnch Kale
 Small bag shredded parmesan
 1 onion
 1 lemon

 (Dinner: omelets, french fries, kale salad with dressing of lemon jc,
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Re: [RBW] WTT? 61cm Atlantis for Bomba or Hunqa

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If *I* owned that Atlantis, I'd keep it!

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM, geosat geos...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a longshot but I have a beautiful 2007 Atlantis with kickstand plate
 and looking to trade for a 60cm Bomba or a WI Hunqa in a 58 or 62. I think
 I'm zeroing in on what I'm looking for, finally. My Atlantis has typical
 Riv wear and is equipped w/ Ultegra Sugino Paul Canti touring brakes and
 downtube shifters. Trades up or down can be considered. Please contact me
 off the boards if you are interested in doing something! Thanks!
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RE: [RBW] WTT? 61cm Atlantis for Bomba or Hunqa

2012-11-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
FWIW, I have a 61cm Atlantis, and a 56cm Bomba, and I think the 60cm Bomba 
would be too big for me (and I'm willing to ignore very tight standover 
clearance).  86 or 87 PBH.

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If *I* owned that Atlantis, I'd keep it!
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM, geosat 
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It's a longshot but I have a beautiful 2007 Atlantis with kickstand plate and 
looking to trade for a 60cm Bomba or a WI Hunqa in a 58 or 62. I think I'm 
zeroing in on what I'm looking for, finally. My Atlantis has typical Riv wear 
and is equipped w/ Ultegra Sugino Paul Canti touring brakes and downtube 
shifters. Trades up or down can be considered. Please contact me off the boards 
if you are interested in doing something! Thanks! geosat1atgmaildotcom
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Re: [RBW] OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread jimD
Having lived in New Mexico in the past I might understand the confusion.
It really is the 'Land of Enchantment',  in ways the term was meant and might 
not have been meant to include.
-JimD
Still working on the plan to retire there.

On Nov 4, 2012, at 5:35 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

 
 
 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 Heck, there are still plenty of 'Murcans who don't know that Hawaii and New 
 Mexico are states.
 
 
 We are???!!!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IucBp1yrr7A
 
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Re: [RBW] Ram 650b with Hetre conversion update 2--test ride, thumbs up!

2012-11-05 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hi Jim,

The light is a BM IQ Cyo.  I'm using the stock mount that came with the
light and mounting it through the brake bolt. I got it from
peterwhitecyles.com.

Best,
Toshi


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Jim jfxdinn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bike looks great. Could you describe what the front light mount is and
 where you got it?  Thanks.Jim D. Massachusetts


 On Sunday, November 4, 2012 12:29:56 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:

 Here are pics of the conversion.  Sorry, because of the lighting,  I
 couldn't get a good angle on the whole bike.

 Toshi

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**42771204@N00/sets/**72157631926815235/http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/sets/72157631926815235/

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Re: [RBW] OT Why are some unwilling to trade with people out of the US?

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
For the record, a Burqueno or Burquena is an Albuquerquian; someone from
Tierra Amarilla or Carlsbad or Shiprock would certainly not identify with
those mannerisms.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:23 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:

 Having lived in New Mexico in the past I might understand the confusion.
 It really is the 'Land of Enchantment',  in ways the term was meant and
 might not have been meant to include.
 -JimD
 Still working on the plan to retire there.

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 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heck, there are still plenty of 'Murcans who don't know that Hawaii and
 New Mexico are states.


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Re: [RBW] Ram 650b with Hetre conversion update 2--test ride, thumbs up!

2012-11-05 Thread Leslie
Toshi,

You're makin' me think.This isn't good, as it's gonna end up making me 
spend money.

lol...


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[RBW] Re: FT--Dove bar for moustache?

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Murray
Hi Ryan,

I have a  NItto Moustache 25.4 that I would be willing to sell. I already 
have a few Dove handlebars so I am not in need. They have been mounted on a 
bike but have less than 100 miles on them- prob less than 50 to be honest. 
What do you think is fair?

Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] FS: Lots of stuff,lots. Bleriot frameset, All Riv related.

2012-11-05 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
12-SKS Fenders silver P50 nice overall condition. $35 do you still have these 
fenders?  

Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5097f65093231765017dast01duc

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[RBW] An interesting match of the Nitto R-15 rear rack and Berthoud panniers

2012-11-05 Thread Jim Cloud
I've had a set of the small, but very nicely made, Gilles Berthoud
GB799 panniers for several years and I've used them for some short
tours.  Originally, I had them mounted on one of the Nitto Campee rear
racks that are made with detachable low-CG grates
(here:  
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=874
).

The Berthoud GB799 panniers weren't well suited to the Campee rack,
which seemed outsized compared to the pannier bags.  I've subsequently
sold my Campee rack.

Recently, pretty much by serendipity, I happened to find some on-line
photos that showed the Nitto R-15 rear rack on a couple of bikes.
That rack looked quite suitable for the GB799 panniers, so I ordered
the rack from Ben's Cycle.  I mounted it on my Rivendell Road Standard
and I've been very pleased with the match to my Berthoud panniers!

The Nitto R-15 rack appears to have been purpose designed for the
Gilles Berthoud GB799 panniers - if it wasn't they certainly conform
to the rack quite perfectly.

Here's some photos of the rack and panniers on my bike:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/sets/72157631927569683/

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

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[RBW] looking for centerpull brake arch

2012-11-05 Thread Julian
I'm looking for an old centerpull brake -- actually, I just need one arch 
-- to make a lamp bracket to attach to a Gamoh front platform rack from 
Riv. Need not be pretty or complete. My current lamp mount is on the fork 
leg and the rack casts quite a shadow, which i'd like to correct. Let me 
know if you've got something that might work. 

Thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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[RBW] Re: Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Chen
I have the large and I've appreciated it for the rainy season... It carries all 
my locks, rain gear, and leaves me space for groceries and a few bottles of 
wine to spare! I also think it looks damn handsome. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody try a 650b Ram with Hetres?

2012-11-05 Thread Daniel
On paper, the Sins brake post extender should work:

http://www.sinz-racing.com/product/SBPE-01.html

They're even MUSA, but as long as I've pondered them, I never pulled the
trigger.

Daniel

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 I'm wondering now if there is a way to convert a canti frame/fork
designed for 700c? Without moving canti studs or creating a method of
mounting the canti's lower with some sort of Frankenstein's bolt on
arrangement I guess it's not feasible?  Probably not necessary as most 700c
canti frames offer enough clearance for reasonably wide tires, but this
thread got me wondering.

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[RBW] Cygolite mounting questions

2012-11-05 Thread John
I recently purchased a neat little battery light from Riv., the cygolite 
metro 300. Very bright, light, easy to use! 

I would like to use two lights on my bike; one mounted on the handlebars, 
and one on the fork. Do any of you have solutions for attatching a cygolite 
to the fork? Perhaps there's a neat little gizmo to make it work without 
fuss?

Thanks, 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I actually like the look of the green Carradices better, but there is no
question which is the best bag in terms of quality and useful capacity.

I think I've found another, Klutz-compatible* way to make even stronger
mounting brackets ... more as this develops.

* No need for anything except hand tools and no need for advanced metal
working skills.

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[RBW] ISO 36 t Shimano compatible cog

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Would prefer to trade, if trade possible. I know one is available on eBay
for BIN $32, but again, I'd prefer a trade.

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[RBW] Re: Cygolite mounting questions

2012-11-05 Thread Stephen S
Which part of the fork do you want to attach to? 

Paul's Gino mount works well on attaching to a braze on the fork.
http://www.paulcomp.com/ginolightmount.html

The cronometro knob works reasonably well from what I hear for mounting 
most places on the fork blades : 
http://www.amazon.com/Cronometro-Bicycle-Handlebar-Computer-Mount/dp/B0065ZN1WS

Stephen


On Monday, November 5, 2012 7:25:33 AM UTC-8, John wrote:

 I recently purchased a neat little battery light from Riv., the cygolite 
 metro 300. Very bright, light, easy to use! 

 I would like to use two lights on my bike; one mounted on the handlebars, 
 and one on the fork. Do any of you have solutions for attatching a cygolite 
 to the fork? Perhaps there's a neat little gizmo to make it work without 
 fuss?

 Thanks, 
 John


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Re: [RBW] Cygolite mounting questions

2012-11-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've bought or made several gizmos for fork mounting, unfortunately I've
forgotten the sources for several of them.

1. There is a 1.25 long, ~1 diamater tube section with provision for a
bolt to mount it to a lowrider braze on or to a dropout braze on. Forgot
source, but cheap. (Not the VO items, below.)

2. Several on this VO page:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/lighting.html

3. Minoura makes a rather fiddly but secure fork leg strap-on for lights
with a metal clamp.

4. There is a ditto made from plastic including a plastic hose clamp that
works but tends to break. Forgot source.

5.  I've made sturdy if inelegant fork mounts using a section of 1 PVC
pipe or old handlebar (looks better, especially if you plug it with
something chromed) radiused to fit over the fork blade and slotted to
accept a hose clamp. The metal ones don't look bad, actually.

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 I recently purchased a neat little battery light from Riv., the cygolite
 metro 300. Very bright, light, easy to use!

 I would like to use two lights on my bike; one mounted on the handlebars,
 and one on the fork. Do any of you have solutions for attatching a cygolite
 to the fork? Perhaps there's a neat little gizmo to make it work without
 fuss?

 Thanks,
 John

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[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

2012-11-05 Thread Phil Brown
Plus, he was hit on his motorcycle there.

On Nov 4, 10:34 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote:
 Since you haven't lived in Tucson, I don't think you should judge what
 our conditions are regarding cycling.  I've lived here since 1978,
 Tucson is definitely a very good place for cycling (I've also lived in
 Boulder, CO, by the way).  Tucson is rated a Gold status as a Bicycle
 Friendly City by the League of American Bicyclists.

 If you happen to know any city in the U.S., of a size approximate to
 Tucson (roughly 1,000,000) with drivers who never behave in an
 aggressive or discourteous manner to cyclists, please let me know
 where that city is located.

 Jim Cloud
 Tucson, AZ

 On Nov 4, 4:37 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:







  He dissed the place for multiple run-ins with maniac drivers. I'd be
  pissed, too.

  Joe Bernard
  Vallejo, CA.

  On Sunday, November 4, 2012 1:02:30 PM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote:
   It's 15.2 miles from Denver to Golden, not so many mile-high miles.
   Maynard Hershon once lived in Tucson, until he dissed the place and
   moved on.  He hasn't been missed here to my knowledge...

   Jim Cloud
   Tucson, AZ

   On Nov 4, 11:26 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
   http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-upended-campaign...

Third to last paragraph. Sounds like he's putting in some mile-high
   miles!

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[RBW] Re: Proto Bombadil on Diablo

2012-11-05 Thread Jim M.
And as an added bonus, the proto doesn't have lawyer lips, though mine has 
an odd 26.8 seatpost.

Took it on its first commute today. There's a radar sign on the way. I'm 
just as fast on the Bomba as on my previous skinnier tire commute bike, not 
that speed matters of course.

jim

On Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:04:19 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:

 You're killin' me, Jim. That 48 Proto is still there, and I still don't 
 have another spare 900 bucks lying around after my recent - and still not 
 built - Saluki purchase. Oy!
  
 Joe #firstworldproblems Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.




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[RBW] Re: An interesting match of the Nitto R-15 rear rack and Berthoud panniers

2012-11-05 Thread Marty
Now I know why I shouldn't have sold my R15! That's a fantastic set-up Jim. 
I can imagine this with Rivs new low-rider rack and another pair of 
Berthoud's up front. I wonder how close the matching Sackville's will line 
up with the R15?

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[RBW] WTB Nitto Soba Model 177 handlebars, 44cm

2012-11-05 Thread William
I want to buy a set of the lighter version of the drop bars Riv sells.  The 
Nitto Mod 177 Soba in size 44. 

So I love love love Nitto Noodle Mod 177 handlebars.  I have them on 4 
bikes and have an extra set of 44s on the shelf.  I'm contemplating a 
lightweight build and would love to use the Soba version of the 177s. 
 These are the bulged ones, not the sleeved ones, and they weight just a 
little bit less.  I see a set on ebay in 41 and I'm thinking about bidding 
on them.  Anybody have a set of 44s they don't need?

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[RBW] Re: New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I'm in awe of your wrap jobs. 

On Monday, November 5, 2012 12:28:52 AM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHBVin

 Here are some pics of a harlequin (diamond) wrap I did on the 42cm Noodles 
 I'm currently finding are perfect for me.  I put 3 coats of amber on maroon 
 and yellow Newbaums tape.  This week will be testing it weather-wise, as it 
 looks like lots of rain. 

 I tried to do some video taping of this process, so after I learn how to 
 edit and get it online, I'll hopefully be able to post a how-to.

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 Seattle, WA


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[RBW] Re: New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread William
I'm thinking it might be super cool in a very understated way to do a 
harlequin wrap all in one color.  That way, the only thing unusual is the 
diamond pattern texture.  It would be one of those kind of secret fancy 
touches that only a few very observant people would notice.  

On Monday, November 5, 2012 12:28:52 AM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHBVin

 Here are some pics of a harlequin (diamond) wrap I did on the 42cm Noodles 
 I'm currently finding are perfect for me.  I put 3 coats of amber on maroon 
 and yellow Newbaums tape.  This week will be testing it weather-wise, as it 
 looks like lots of rain. 

 I tried to do some video taping of this process, so after I learn how to 
 edit and get it online, I'll hopefully be able to post a how-to.

 Brian
 Seattle, WA


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[RBW] Re: New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread Leslie
On Monday, November 5, 2012 2:05:15 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 I'm in awe of your wrap jobs. 



I concur.  My Ram's wrap was straight-forward, shellacked cork tape, 
twined.  For my Bomba, I was contemplating a harlequin-cloth-tap wrap, so I 
decided to rewrap my son's bike's bars first (he'd torn up his original 
black tape, had been electrical-taped back together as a field-repair).   

It was 'okay', but, wow, tricky, and not quite happy w/ the result.  Well, 
he was, he was delighted w/ it, but wasn't up to what I really wanted;  
ended up going w/ a single color cloth and shellac on the Bomba because 
of...   

Your job, tho'...   makes me want to try again.   Also given me an idea on 
simplifying what I attempted;  just harlequin the upper and lower, instead 
of trying to keep it going around under the hoods

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody try a 650b Ram with Hetres?

2012-11-05 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Although a frame can handle a larger tire, the larger tire will raise the
bottom bracket height, and that may or may not affect the handling. If you
want the same bottom bracket height with wider tire, then you'll have to do
a conversion.

For example, the Rambouillet might have been designed for 700x28, and the
650bx42 gives the same BB height within a couple of mm.

I recently rode the Ram with 700x35mm tires, and the bike felt a bit less
stable than the Ram with 700x32mm, maybe because the wider tires put me
higher off the ground...

Best,
Toshi


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On paper, the Sins brake post extender should work:

 http://www.sinz-racing.com/product/SBPE-01.html

 They're even MUSA, but as long as I've pondered them, I never pulled the
 trigger.

 Daniel

 On Nov 4, 2012 1:09 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm wondering now if there is a way to convert a canti frame/fork
 designed for 700c? Without moving canti studs or creating a method of
 mounting the canti's lower with some sort of Frankenstein's bolt on
 arrangement I guess it's not feasible?  Probably not necessary as most 700c
 canti frames offer enough clearance for reasonably wide tires, but this
 thread got me wondering.



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[RBW] Re: An interesting match of the Nitto R-15 rear rack and Berthoud panniers

2012-11-05 Thread Jim Cloud
Marty, I'm with you on wondering how the new Riv low-rack will work
with various panniers.  Euro-Asia Imports has a Gilles Berthoud
Diagonale bicycle shown with panniers that equip that bike, it's a
nice combination:

http://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/Gilles-Berthoud-Diagonale-2191p16862.htm

Jim

On Nov 5, 11:41 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
 Now I know why I shouldn't have sold my R15! That's a fantastic set-up Jim.
 I can imagine this with Rivs new low-rider rack and another pair of
 Berthoud's up front. I wonder how close the matching Sackville's will line
 up with the R15?

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Re: [RBW] New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread Joan Oppel
Brian - elegant and fun, at the same time! Beautiful job.On 11/05/12, Brian Hansonstone...@gmail.com wrote:http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHBVinHere are some pics of a harlequin (diamond) wrap I did on the 42cm Noodles I'm currently finding are perfect for me. I put 3 coats of amber on maroon and yellow Newbaums tape. This week will be testing it weather-wise, as it looks like lots of rain.I tried to do some video taping of this process, so after I learn how to edit and get it online, I'll hopefully be able to post a how-to.BrianSeattle, WA-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



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Re: [RBW] Re: New wrap

2012-11-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 11:10 -0800, William wrote:
 I'm thinking it might be super cool in a very understated way to do a
 harlequin wrap all in one color.  That way, the only thing unusual is
 the diamond pattern texture.  It would be one of those kind of secret
 fancy touches that only a few very observant people would notice.  

Actually, Bike Doctor in Waldorf does that with one-color cork-like
wraps.  It does look cool and understated.



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[RBW] Re: Yellow leaves, wet bridges and sauerkraut

2012-11-05 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Seth -- the MUP was about 21 of the 68 miles. 

Mayfly -- They make several tons of sausage for the festival and apparently 
they sell out every year.  

Mike -- I've got 200k in the back of my mind. Already looking at the 2013 
schedule. 

Eric -- yes... more end of ride rock shows. 

Dennis -- pics came through loud and clear. Thanks.

Charlie -- There's another 100k in March... come on down. 

Russ and Laura from Path Less Pedaled were on the ride too. It was their 
first Randonneuring event. They did a write up on their site with more 
pics: http://pathlesspedaled.com/blog/

Cheers to all,
Andy


On Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:51:20 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 List member and fellow 65cm Homer owner Dennis was kind enough to give me 
 a ride to the western reaches of the Portland Oregon suburbs for the annual 
 Oregon Randonneurs Verboort Sausage Populaire 110k. The trio that I was 
 riding with finished in the coveted position of 3-way tie for 
 lasthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Way_Tie_(For_Last). 
 We had been leap frogging with Dennis for much of the ride but he passed us 
 at about the 80km mark and we didn't see him again until we were getting 
 our cards signed at the finish. 

 Not really any stand-out stories from the ride but it was a great way to 
 spend the day. 

 click here for pics of bikes, friends, scenery, and 
 foodhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157631926087559/
  

 --Andy



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[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

2012-11-05 Thread Brewster Fong

On Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:37:43 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: 

 He dissed the place for multiple run-ins with maniac drivers. I'd be 
 pissed, too.

 
Yeah, I recall he was almost run off the road by a driver.  Then he 
chased/follow him and when he confronted the driver, the guy basically 
threatened to kill his butt and MH freaked out. After that, he supposedly 
went into some sort of depression and couldn't/wouldn't ride until he fled 
to Denver or whereever else he went. Never understood why he decided to 
challenge the guyGood Luck! 

  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Sunday, November 4, 2012 1:02:30 PM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote:

 It's 15.2 miles from Denver to Golden, not so many mile-high miles. 
 Maynard Hershon once lived in Tucson, until he dissed the place and 
 moved on.  He hasn't been missed here to my knowledge... 

 Jim Cloud 
 Tucson, AZ 

 On Nov 4, 11:26 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: 
  http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-upended-campaign... 

  
  Third to last paragraph. Sounds like he's putting in some mile-high 
 miles! 
  
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  Redlands, CA 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Morgano
I honestly have no idea who this guy is (dont hate me) but if I stopped
riding because someone tried to run me over and/or threatened me I doubt I
would ride at all here in NYC.  Its all part of the experience, so to
speak, hahaha.

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 On Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:37:43 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:

 He dissed the place for multiple run-ins with maniac drivers. I'd be
 pissed, too.


 Yeah, I recall he was almost run off the road by a driver.  Then he
 chased/follow him and when he confronted the driver, the guy basically
 threatened to kill his butt and MH freaked out. After that, he supposedly
 went into some sort of depression and couldn't/wouldn't ride until he fled
 to Denver or whereever else he went. Never understood why he decided to
 challenge the guyGood Luck!


 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Sunday, November 4, 2012 1:02:30 PM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote:

 It's 15.2 miles from Denver to Golden, not so many mile-high miles.
 Maynard Hershon once lived in Tucson, until he dissed the place and
 moved on.  He hasn't been missed here to my knowledge...

 Jim Cloud
 Tucson, AZ

 On Nov 4, 11:26 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://www.latimes.com/news/**nationworld/nation/la-na-**
 upended-campaign.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-upended-campaign...

 
  Third to last paragraph. Sounds like he's putting in some mile-high
 miles!
 
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[RBW] Re: Yellow leaves, wet bridges and sauerkraut

2012-11-05 Thread Reid

On Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:08:13 PM UTC-8, Dennis Hogan wrote: 

 Here is my own photo-take on the ride - what Andy didn't mention was that 
 when I picked him up he said another rider was going to follow us. It was 
 Tommy who I met when he and Manny were doing the coast tour last August. I 
 was in California and stopped in Tomales Bay at Hog Island Oysters on my 
 way back to OR and there were Tommy  Manny. Small world !!!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhoganahh/sets/72157631930683075/

 (Hope this works as it is my first effort)

That last pic shows a third bike behind the others, that looks as though it 
might also be a Riv. Is it?   Also, you guys forgot to mention all the 
babes on the ride. Keeping them all for yourselves??
 
Reid

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[RBW] Re: Wood

2012-11-05 Thread Reid

On Monday, October 29, 2012 9:07:39 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: 
...

 (BTW come join us for Riv Rally East 2013 in May... stay tuned).

 
OK, no teasing! Isn't that against the rules on this forum? Mods alert! 
Mods alert!
 
So at least give us some hints. What general kind of stuff do you have in 
mind? Do tell!  Every Spring, I think how great it would be to organize a 
re-do of the S24O rides that Riv used to do up Mt Diablo, but I'm too 
disorganized to manage organizing anything.
 
Reid
 
 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Lots of stuff,lots. Bleriot frameset, All Riv related.

2012-11-05 Thread hobie
Yes
On Monday, November 5, 2012 12:25:17 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:

 12-SKS Fenders silver P50 nice overall condition. $35
  
 do you still have these fenders?
  
  


 
 *Woman is 53 But Looks 25*
 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/5097f65093231765017dast01duc
 ConsumerLifestyleMag.comhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/5097f65093231765017dast01duc

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[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

2012-11-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I made no such judgment. I reported why Maynard wasn't happy riding there.
 
Joe Bernard

On Sunday, November 4, 2012 10:34:48 PM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote:

 Since you haven't lived in Tucson, I don't think you should judge what 
 our conditions are regarding cycling.  I've lived here since 1978, 
 Tucson is definitely a very good place for cycling (I've also lived in 
 Boulder, CO, by the way).  Tucson is rated a Gold status as a Bicycle 
 Friendly City by the League of American Bicyclists. 

 If you happen to know any city in the U.S., of a size approximate to 
 Tucson (roughly 1,000,000) with drivers who never behave in an 
 aggressive or discourteous manner to cyclists, please let me know 
 where that city is located. 

 Jim Cloud 
 Tucson, AZ 

 On Nov 4, 4:37 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: 
  He dissed the place for multiple run-ins with maniac drivers. I'd be 
  pissed, too. 
  
  Joe Bernard 
  Vallejo, CA. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Sunday, November 4, 2012 1:02:30 PM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote: 
   It's 15.2 miles from Denver to Golden, not so many mile-high miles. 
   Maynard Hershon once lived in Tucson, until he dissed the place and 
   moved on.  He hasn't been missed here to my knowledge... 
  
   Jim Cloud 
   Tucson, AZ 
  
   On Nov 4, 11:26 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: 
   
 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-upended-campaign... 
  
Third to last paragraph. Sounds like he's putting in some mile-high 
   miles! 
  
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Cheers, 
David 
Redlands, CA 
  
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[RBW] Re: New/old magnets at Rivendell

2012-11-05 Thread William
I almost missed another important bombshell on the BLUG.  An Yves Gomez 
headbadge!  Holy moly that's rad.  The steampunk kids will flip over that.  

On Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:19:37 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Well..I didn't expect to see *these *again. New Rivendell and Baggins 
 Bags magnets at ye old www.rivbike.com. 10 bucks each, which is really 
 gonna steam the guy who beat my bid of $25 for one on Ebay a couple weeks 
 ago :)
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.


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[RBW] Re: An interesting match of the Nitto R-15 rear rack and Berthoud panniers

2012-11-05 Thread dougP
Jim:

Is the lower horizontal bar on the R-15 intended for pannier mounting?  

An irritation that I have about the Nitto big back racks is the awkwardness 
of using the platform with panniers installed.  I've seen other mfgs racks 
with a second set of bars a couple of inches below the platform.  The 
second set allows unobstructed use of the platform with panniers 
installed.  IMHO the Nitto big back rack would be much improved by a second 
set of bars and eliminating the angle braces that seem to mostly get in the 
way of things.

dougP

On Monday, November 5, 2012 9:59:22 AM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote:

 I've had a set of the small, but very nicely made, Gilles Berthoud 
 GB799 panniers for several years and I've used them for some short 
 tours.  Originally, I had them mounted on one of the Nitto Campee rear 
 racks that are made with detachable low-CG grates 
 (here:  
 http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=874 
 ). 

 The Berthoud GB799 panniers weren't well suited to the Campee rack, 
 which seemed outsized compared to the pannier bags.  I've subsequently 
 sold my Campee rack. 

 Recently, pretty much by serendipity, I happened to find some on-line 
 photos that showed the Nitto R-15 rear rack on a couple of bikes. 
 That rack looked quite suitable for the GB799 panniers, so I ordered 
 the rack from Ben's Cycle.  I mounted it on my Rivendell Road Standard 
 and I've been very pleased with the match to my Berthoud panniers! 

 The Nitto R-15 rack appears to have been purpose designed for the 
 Gilles Berthoud GB799 panniers - if it wasn't they certainly conform 
 to the rack quite perfectly. 

 Here's some photos of the rack and panniers on my bike: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/sets/72157631927569683/ 

 Jim Cloud 
 Tucson, AZ 


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[RBW] Re: New/old magnets at Rivendell

2012-11-05 Thread Brian Campbell
Got my magnet today. In a bit of poetic justice, it is currently holding 
the recall info I just received in the mail for my car securely on my 
fridge.

On Monday, November 5, 2012 7:48:03 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

 I almost missed another important bombshell on the BLUG.  An Yves Gomez 
 headbadge!  Holy moly that's rad.  The steampunk kids will flip over that.  

 On Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:19:37 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Well..I didn't expect to see *these *again. New Rivendell and Baggins 
 Bags magnets at ye old www.rivbike.com. 10 bucks each, which is really 
 gonna steam the guy who beat my bid of $25 for one on Ebay a couple weeks 
 ago :)
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.



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Re: [RBW] Re: New/old magnets at Rivendell

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Morgano
Love my magnet too but stupid brushed aluminum fridge isn't magnetic. Hard
to explain to my 6 year old but she liked the magnet either way.
On Nov 5, 2012 8:32 PM, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got my magnet today. In a bit of poetic justice, it is currently holding
 the recall info I just received in the mail for my car securely on my
 fridge.

 On Monday, November 5, 2012 7:48:03 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

 I almost missed another important bombshell on the BLUG.  An Yves Gomez
 headbadge!  Holy moly that's rad.  The steampunk kids will flip over that.

 On Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:19:37 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Well..I didn't expect to see *these *again. New Rivendell and
 Baggins Bags magnets at ye old www.rivbike.com. 10 bucks each, which
 is really gonna steam the guy who beat my bid of $25 for one on Ebay a
 couple weeks ago :)

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] non-drop/non-albatross/non-mustache bar'd hilsens

2012-11-05 Thread Seth Vidal
So I've been riding around on a used tandem I got for me and the stoker
quite a bit. It's an older santana and we've converted it over from the
drops to a more upright posture. I put on a pair of incredibly cheap
dimension arc bars ($14) and a set of ergon grips and it is disconcertingly
comfortable. I like the grips, I like the position I end up in on the bars
and I'm thinking I could do this on the hilsen, convert it over to a
1x9 and keep the rom for go-fasty (well, go less slow-y).


So I thought I'd ask here - what other kind of bars should I think about.

These are the ones I put on the tandem:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F3077M/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00

So.. Any suggestions.
-sv

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[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Murray
I lived in Tucson and I would say that it is one of the best places to ride in 
the country. I have lived in NH, MA, CA, OR, and WA and the drivers were no 
better and worse in most cases than in Tucson. The fact is cyclists have issues 
with cars in every big city. Maynard is semi-famous so his voice got heard and 
published. I actually wrote to Grant after MH wrote those things about Tucson 
to say that it seemed totally unfair to Tucson without printing a pro-Tucson 
piece too. Obviously that did not happen. Even now after moving away from 
Tucson I still feel like what MH wrote and GP published was unfair and not 
right.

I actually met MH just before he moved and thought he was very nice. It turns 
out we have mutual friends. 

Cheers! 
cm

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[RBW] Re: non-drop/non-albatross/non-mustache bar'd hilsens

2012-11-05 Thread Jeremy Till
Not really a suggestion...nor is my bike a Hilsen...but I ended up with a 
similar bar on my Quickbeam, a generic Masi branded swept back flat bar 
(it was a take-off from one of their Soulville bikes).  Flat black, 
too...not great aesthetics but it feels the best of the bars I've tried so 
far on that bike: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8135411607/

Soma also makes the Noah's Arc bar which is similar.  Nitto also has this 
swept flat bar http://store.somafab.com/nihbb82260.html, with a bit more 
of a segmented look.  Then their are the various Jitensha/MAP/Ahearne/VO 
Postino options, which have a bit more going on in terms of bends.  

On Monday, November 5, 2012 6:42:37 PM UTC-8, Seth Vidal wrote:

 So I've been riding around on a used tandem I got for me and the stoker 
 quite a bit. It's an older santana and we've converted it over from the 
 drops to a more upright posture. I put on a pair of incredibly cheap 
 dimension arc bars ($14) and a set of ergon grips and it is disconcertingly 
 comfortable. I like the grips, I like the position I end up in on the bars 
 and I'm thinking I could do this on the hilsen, convert it over to a 
 1x9 and keep the rom for go-fasty (well, go less slow-y). 


 So I thought I'd ask here - what other kind of bars should I think about.

 These are the ones I put on the tandem:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F3077M/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00

 So.. Any suggestions.
 -sv



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Re: [RBW] Re: non-drop/non-albatross/non-mustache bar'd hilsens

2012-11-05 Thread Jim Mather

 On Monday, November 5, 2012 6:42:37 PM UTC-8, Seth Vidal wrote:


 So I thought I'd ask here - what other kind of bars should I think about.



I'm liking the Surly Open Bar: http://surlybikes.com/parts/open_bar

Here are some photos of it on my Sam:
https://picasaweb.google.com/110622815911611774447/September282012

jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: non-drop/non-albatross/non-mustache bar'd hilsens

2012-11-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I like the Soma Clarence bar. Open bar is good, too. Silver is not an option in 
either case. Civia also has a variety of swept-back flat bars.

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Re: [RBW] Re: non-drop/non-albatross/non-mustache bar'd hilsens

2012-11-05 Thread Mike
I've used the Surly Open Bar and it's good. For a while I was liking it 
more than the Albatross Bar but now I'm back to being a fan of the 
Albatross. Currently I have an Alba on my Cross Check and an Open Bar on my 
Big Dummy. 

--mike

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[RBW] FT--Dove bar for moustache?

2012-11-05 Thread jandrews_nyc
Hi, I have an extra pair in very good condition I'd be willing to trade for a 
pair of doves.
Let me know how you'd like to proceed.
Best
Jason

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[RBW] Re: non-drop/non-albatross/non-mustache bar'd hilsens

2012-11-05 Thread dougP
I have an Origin 8 Space Bar :

http://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91short_code=Space+Off+Road+IIprod_model_uid=6331cl1=HANDLEBARS

on a non-Riv city bike.  I like the angle of the bars where you grip.  They 
come either black or polished.  IIRC they were around $30 at my LBS.  Got 
tipped to these from another listmember.  

dougP

On Monday, November 5, 2012 6:42:37 PM UTC-8, Seth Vidal wrote:

 So I've been riding around on a used tandem I got for me and the stoker 
 quite a bit. It's an older santana and we've converted it over from the 
 drops to a more upright posture. I put on a pair of incredibly cheap 
 dimension arc bars ($14) and a set of ergon grips and it is disconcertingly 
 comfortable. I like the grips, I like the position I end up in on the bars 
 and I'm thinking I could do this on the hilsen, convert it over to a 
 1x9 and keep the rom for go-fasty (well, go less slow-y). 


 So I thought I'd ask here - what other kind of bars should I think about.

 These are the ones I put on the tandem:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F3077M/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00

 So.. Any suggestions.
 -sv



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[RBW] Re: Yellow leaves, wet bridges and sauerkraut

2012-11-05 Thread Manuel Acosta
Glad that Tom is being taken care of in Portland. Looks like a great ride 
with great company. Pictures look amazing too. On a side note the 
ladyfriend and I might head up there for the New Years. 
Look for a care package from Cal soon...

Dennis - Was meaning to sent this to you when we met in the summer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7842247672/in/set-72157631201739244




On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:39:22 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 Seth -- the MUP was about 21 of the 68 miles. 

 Mayfly -- They make several tons of sausage for the festival and 
 apparently they sell out every year.  

 Mike -- I've got 200k in the back of my mind. Already looking at the 2013 
 schedule. 

 Eric -- yes... more end of ride rock shows. 

 Dennis -- pics came through loud and clear. Thanks.

 Charlie -- There's another 100k in March... come on down. 

 Russ and Laura from Path Less Pedaled were on the ride too. It was their 
 first Randonneuring event. They did a write up on their site with more 
 pics: http://pathlesspedaled.com/blog/

 Cheers to all,
 Andy


 On Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:51:20 AM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 List member and fellow 65cm Homer owner Dennis was kind enough to give me 
 a ride to the western reaches of the Portland Oregon suburbs for the annual 
 Oregon Randonneurs Verboort Sausage Populaire 110k. The trio that I was 
 riding with finished in the coveted position of 3-way tie for 
 lasthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Way_Tie_(For_Last). 
 We had been leap frogging with Dennis for much of the ride but he passed us 
 at about the 80km mark and we didn't see him again until we were getting 
 our cards signed at the finish. 

 Not really any stand-out stories from the ride but it was a great way to 
 spend the day. 

 click here for pics of bikes, friends, scenery, and 
 foodhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157631926087559/
  

 --Andy



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[RBW] Lost? Let says extended exploring.

2012-11-05 Thread Manuel Acosta
Last Friday on my commute home the ladyfriend calls me and I quote,Take 
your time we don't need to be there for a couple of hours. 
I took this as an excuse to take the long way home looking for a different 
way to get up to Mission Peak. I decided to take Weller Rd via Calaveras Rd.
Didn't know that road was a private road until I get to the No Trespassing 
Signs saying Trespassers will be shot with rock salt.
Figured rock salt to the chest wasn't a good way to end my week so I 
figured I would take it off road to meet up with a trailhead. 
Following a cow trail I found myself lost. Seriously lost. Lost to the 
point where the survival instincts are starting to kick in.
Thinking in my head, It's getting dark maybe I should find/make some 
shelter and try early in the morning tomorrow. 
But at the same time knowing that the ladyfriend would be pissed if I came 
home the next day didn't bode well with me.
So I push on. I eventually find my way toward Mission Peak with no help 
from GoogleMaps.

Not many pictures show that I was rushing to get home:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157631934795844/

-Manny I'm not lost. I'm just exploring. Acosta

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[RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

2012-11-05 Thread Tokyo Crank
Hello

Not directly Rivendell related but I hope some might find it of some 
interest. I attended Tokyo Cyclemode on Sunday, the largest annual cycle 
show open to the public in Japan. It was 50km or so from home, so I cycled 
over and took some snaps of the things that interested me. On entering, I 
spent about 30 seconds in the carbon-racy-electric-gruppo-lycra-powermeter 
area, which was admittedly large and busy, and then moved on to an area 
where I felt much more at home.

Too many pictures to post directly, but you can see the full set here 
: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHtu9t

I hope the link works. I did have a small Rivendell surprise while touring 
the show. You will see it in the picture set.

Paul

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[RBW] Re: Cygolite mounting questions

2012-11-05 Thread charlie
With the threaded dropout or fork blade braze on you could take a section 
of brass, copper, steel or aluminum pipe the diameter of a handlebar more 
or less and put a flat piece on each end with a hole to run a long bolt 
through. You could use locktite (the removalable kind) to make sure it 
stays. Heck you could even use a turned solid piece of something even wood 
and drill a hole and attach the same way. Super simple. My only question, 
why the fork.? Why not use it on your helmet to aid in turning corners 
and for 'pointing' at inattentive drivers?

On Monday, November 5, 2012 7:25:33 AM UTC-8, John wrote:

 I recently purchased a neat little battery light from Riv., the cygolite 
 metro 300. Very bright, light, easy to use! 

 I would like to use two lights on my bike; one mounted on the handlebars, 
 and one on the fork. Do any of you have solutions for attatching a cygolite 
 to the fork? Perhaps there's a neat little gizmo to make it work without 
 fuss?

 Thanks, 
 John


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