[RBW] Re: FS: Assorted Schwalbe Tires

2013-05-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Wish I had use for the Winters, but also glad that I don't. 
--Smitty
 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:00:45 AM UTC-7, Zack wrote:

 I am moving and sadly have to get rid of my extra tires.  My storage loss, 
 your gain.  Good chance to pick up some lightly used tires on the cheap.

 Schwalbe Marathon Winter, 700 x 35, used one winter sparingly, most of the 
 studs intact, should be at least two more winters in 'em.  *$80 including 
 shipping.*
 *
 *
 Schwalbe Marathon Dureme, 700 x 40, used one season, plenty of life left. 
 * $80 including shipping.*
 *
 *
 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme, 700 x 50, not used by me, very sparingly by 
 previous owner, came on a bike he said was ridden less than 100 miles and 
 that seemed true to me.  *$90 including shipping.*
 *
 *
 *
 *


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[RBW] Re: Let's ride to the Swift Industries camp stove cookery class May 19th

2013-05-15 Thread Rob
I'll be at the class, but I'll be riding from Mt. Baker. 

See you there!

Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Long commute in the PNW- advice?

2013-05-15 Thread Matt Beebe
Since you already have done a daily 8-mile commute, I think you'll be fine 
on the 30 mile commute and might not even find it all that different. I 
wouldn't over-think the bike setup too much, as the setup will kind of 
congeal over time.   But, as far as addressing technical failures, it's 
good to carry some spare chain links and a chain tool, patch kit, spare 
tube (and a pump of course), and a multi-tool.With those you should be 
good to go.I've had shifter cables snap, but you can still pedal home 
like that, whereas broken chains, though rare, mean walking and coasting 
down the occasional hill if you don't have a chain tool or a spare link.

For clothing, I agree with what Deacon Patrick says about breathability 
being the key.   You can get by in temps down to zero without any 
windbreaker at all, just layering sweaters and sweatshirts.   As much wool 
as you can when it's wet out.

Winter chews through all kinds of bike parts around here, with all the salt 
they dump on the roads.Fenders help but still you have to hose your 
bike off (from an indoor-spigot since it's freezing out) every day when you 
get home.




On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:11:13 PM UTC-4, Tim Tetrault wrote:

 Thanks all. I commute now, but my round trip is 8 miles, didn't mean to 
 give off the impression I was just starting. I feel as though I'm in for a 
 rude awakening, though, with over triple the mileage each way. Do you all 
 have any gear recommendations that are your non-negotiables? 

 Brian, your Hunq looks comfy. Thanks for the tips. 

 I am on Schwalbe Mara Supremes right now but was thinking perhaps going to 
 a Jack Brown (the kevlar version) to maybe give myself a couple more MPH 
 than the 35mms/heavier tires. Seattle's streets can be pretty rough 
 compared to some of the more manicured streets I've been on in the 'burbs 
 and in the midwest. 

 What about a good wheelset to survive the gritty winters? Right now I am 
 running Veloc Dyads with LX hubs, 36 spoke- I wonder once they are run 
 through I should consider a 32 spoke wheel? Any suggestions?

 Jan Heine has written on how handlebar bags protect your legs from rain, 
 anyone else care to comment. I know Velo Orange is set to come out with a 
 larger bag (more affordable than the Berthouds) I am mostly discouraged 
 about having a potential technical failure in the winter, and just freezing 
 and getting soaked there and back and having to do it again the next 
 morning. It likely won't pay enough to offset the cost of driving very much 
 and with us hitting the 400ppm CO2 mark this month I'm feeling driven to 
 bike AMAP. 

 On Monday, May 13, 2013 5:17:22 PM UTC-7, Tim Tetrault wrote:

 Hey Gang-

 I'm contemplating a long commute in the Seattle area- 15 miles each way 
 (long for me anyway) on my Hilborne. Any advice on handling the day in day 
 out grind of this?

 Ideas could include: 

 Food management/tiring out after long day
 reasonable raingear for the price (knowing I will be exposed for a 
 soaking)
 time management tips I may have not considered

 Thanks-

 Tim



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Re: [RBW] Dry bag packing atop Nitto Rack

2013-05-15 Thread Lyle Bogart
Hi Andrew,
I use dry bags quite often and like them a lot--they're typically quite
sturdy. The only thing to remember is that they're waterproof from within
and without so don't pack away any damp or wet items in there. . .

Have a great trip; where are you going?

Cheers!

lyle


On 14 May 2013 22:56, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm finalizing my gear for a trip that starts this weekend, and am finally
 getting to how I'll carry m'stuff. I have an old Carradice saddle bag that
 swings from my saddle, and I'm fitting a rear rack so I can strap a bag
 between Carradice and rack. It seems like a basic roll-top dry bag, 15 or
 20 liter size, will be about perfect.

 Any comments on traveling out of a dry bag? I think I can use a thin
 plastic cutting board, trimmed to size, to give the bag some flat-bottom
 form.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Dynamo charging system

2013-05-15 Thread shawn
For those of you who may be looking into a charging system for your dynamo 
hub I thought I would share my recent experience with The Bright Bike 
Revolution. http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution

Last week I used the Revolution on a GAP-CO tour and it performed 
perfectly. The Revolution kept our Iphones charged throughout the tour, 
even during two days of solid rain. Here is a picture of it mounted to my 
bike. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenwayrider/8741419984/in/photostream

The Revolution worked as advertised and thus far it seems to be a viable 
solution for those who would like to have the capability to charge their 
electronic devices from a dynamo hub. 
Cheers
Shawn

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[RBW] FS: Large assortment of nearly new and classical parts

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
I spent the winter cleaning out my house, now its time to clean out the 
shop.  All prices are plus shipping

Rear Derailleurs:

Campy NR, purchased new in 1983, in good condition - $35

Campy Chorus, purchased new in 1988, in beautiful condition - $65

Campy Centaur, new around 2005, good condition, long cage - $65

Suntour Superbe -$35

Shimano Deore XT - $35


Front Derailleur - 

Suntour Cyclone MII “Touring” - $20


Shifters:

Campy NR  DT- $10

Campy Chorus DT, 7spd, only work in friction mode now - $10

DuraAce - DT $10

Shimano Ultegra 9spd Brifters - $35

Shimano 8spd Bar Ends - $25


Brakes:

  Side Pulls: 

Ultegra BR 6500 (39-47) $25

Ultegra BR -R600 (47-57) $50

Campy Grand Sport (47-57) Single Pivot, NR Quality - $25

  Cantilever

Tektro CR 720 New, These are same design as Riv model but very hi polish $45

StandardRack adapter bolts, New - $10


  Levers  

Mafac NOS $75

Dia Compe $15

Suntour Superbe $25


Bars  Stems

Nitto 0356 44cm  nice bend with indent for cable  $35

Marks Bars 42 cm - wrapped  used for two weeks before deciding on a longer 
stem 
 return to Noodles  $70

Cinelli Bar (42)  Stem (11)  very comfortable bend, short quill - $25

Nitto Pearl Stem, gorgeous - 13cm - $50

Nittto Tallex 8 CM, used for two weeks $35


Fork - Chromed Steel with Canti studs, generous tire clearance  nice bend, 
1” threaded $50


Decaleur - VO $10

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Re: [RBW] Dry bag packing atop Nitto Rack

2013-05-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 14, 2013, at 9:56 PM, BSWP wrote:
 
 I'm finalizing my gear for a trip that starts this weekend, and am finally 
 getting to how I'll carry m'stuff. I have an old Carradice saddle bag that 
 swings from my saddle, and I'm fitting a rear rack so I can strap a bag 
 between Carradice and rack. It seems like a basic roll-top dry bag, 15 or 20 
 liter size, will be about perfect.
 
 Any comments on traveling out of a dry bag? I think I can use a thin plastic 
 cutting board, trimmed to size, to give the bag some flat-bottom form.
 
 - Andrew, Berkeley


He may go to the extreme, but interesting food for thought.  Camping tours with 
about 10 lbs of gear.

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Re: [RBW] Dry bag packing atop Nitto Rack

2013-05-15 Thread Manuel Acosta
I don't know the how big it is but when I was at Merry Sales. Evan showed 
my a baf from ILE that was made for flat racks and was a dry bag. really 
cool and simple design. Just a dry roll bag with straps for a flat rack.

Here's a picture.
http://flic.kr/p/ej2cQx

If you call Merry Sales I think you could ask when they will start selling 
them. Or even better call ILE and ask them when they will start selling 
them.

-Manny

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:27:18 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:

 On May 14, 2013, at 9:56 PM, BSWP wrote: 
  
  I'm finalizing my gear for a trip that starts this weekend, and am 
 finally getting to how I'll carry m'stuff. I have an old Carradice saddle 
 bag that swings from my saddle, and I'm fitting a rear rack so I can strap 
 a bag between Carradice and rack. It seems like a basic roll-top dry bag, 
 15 or 20 liter size, will be about perfect. 
  
  Any comments on traveling out of a dry bag? I think I can use a thin 
 plastic cutting board, trimmed to size, to give the bag some flat-bottom 
 form. 
  
  - Andrew, Berkeley 


 He may go to the extreme, but interesting food for thought.  Camping tours 
 with about 10 lbs of gear.

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Re: [RBW] Dry bag packing atop Nitto Rack

2013-05-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 15, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
 On May 14, 2013, at 9:56 PM, BSWP wrote:
 
 I'm finalizing my gear for a trip that starts this weekend, and am finally 
 getting to how I'll carry m'stuff. I have an old Carradice saddle bag that 
 swings from my saddle, and I'm fitting a rear rack so I can strap a bag 
 between Carradice and rack. It seems like a basic roll-top dry bag, 15 or 20 
 liter size, will be about perfect.
 
 Any comments on traveling out of a dry bag? I think I can use a thin plastic 
 cutting board, trimmed to size, to give the bag some flat-bottom form.
 
 - Andrew, Berkeley
 
 
 He may go to the extreme, but interesting food for thought.  Camping tours 
 with about 10 lbs of gear.


Oops forgot the URL-  Igor Kovse:

http://ultralightcycling.blogspot.com/


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Re: [RBW] Dynamo charging system

2013-05-15 Thread Brian Hanson
Shawn - was the bright bike the only device drawing from the dynamo, or did you 
also power lights?

Mobile Brian Hanson

On May 15, 2013, at 6:12 AM, shawn shawn.adki...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For those of you who may be looking into a charging system for your dynamo 
 hub I thought I would share my recent experience with The Bright Bike 
 Revolution. http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution
 
 Last week I used the Revolution on a GAP-CO tour and it performed perfectly. 
 The Revolution kept our Iphones charged throughout the tour, even during two 
 days of solid rain. Here is a picture of it mounted to my bike. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenwayrider/8741419984/in/photostream
 
 The Revolution worked as advertised and thus far it seems to be a viable 
 solution for those who would like to have the capability to charge their 
 electronic devices from a dynamo hub. 
 Cheers
 Shawn
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Re: [RBW] Dry bag packing atop Nitto Rack

2013-05-15 Thread BSWP
Thanks. The ride is long for me, 325 miles from Berkeley, up through Napa, 
Healdsburg, Cloverdale, Boonville, out to the ocean, and back along the 
coast. Six days, staying on couches and in motels. Going with a friend 
who's riding his neat Bike Friday.

I just need to carry off-bike clothes, spares, and toiletries. My second 
thought last night was to replace the trusty Carradice longflap bag with 
the large Wald basket and shopsack I have sitting here - similar to what I 
use on the front of my Quickbeam, but larger and mounted on the rear.

Tonight I'll lay out everything I need to carry, and see just how much room 
I really need. The large shopsack would be more than ample, a dry bag would 
provide the extra space I need beyond the Carradice.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread ChrisB
Hi All
 
Looking through Manny's photos (many thanks Manny for sharing and great 
stuff) I saw that there is a photo of the new hand hatchet in the Gransfors 
Bruks range.
 
I remember when Rivendell were selling these a few years ago and loved the 
design and the ethos behind the company (not too dissimilar to Great 
Pacific Ironworks unless I'm mistaken). It seemed consistent with Riv's 
philosophy of a simple, quality (honesty perhaps) that over a lifetime 
would offer value and just get more beautiful with age and use.
 
However, I never did spring for one because I couldn't see how I would use 
it on a bike camping trip (and not look like slightly Jack Nicholson in the 
Shining)...
 
I know they're highly revered in bushcraft circles: I googled and can see 
how they are a nice compromise between a larger axe and smaller bushcraft 
knife and can do the tasks of both well in skilled hands; making tent pegs, 
feathering sticks for kindling, making simple shelters, skinning fish, 
making traps etc.
 
But, I imagine that most of us would use a tents, will take straightforward 
food and would be using a stove of some sort - perhaps the Trangia (another 
wonderfully designed item) which burns meths. Weight's not so much an issue 
(0.5kg) but it's a dense item and transport may be (perhaps wrapped in 
tincloth in a pannier would be fine). So, it's not like it's a bandana that 
we're chucking in here...
 
So, I guess my rambling question is, if you've got one, how d'ya use it on 
bike trips?
 
Chris

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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread redsydude
 

My wife worked at Friday Harbor Labs one summer and sometimes she would 
hitch a ride on this back to Port Townsend.   
http://www.pugetsoundexpress.com/whale-watching-and-wildlife-tours/san-juan-island-ferry/
 
 This has nothing to do with your Seattle to Anacortes route but others 
have noted the bike riding advantages on the west side of Puget Sound.  

On Monday, May 13, 2013 5:42:32 PM UTC-7, Adam wrote:

 Greetings All,

 Planning a tour this summer for my wife and I up to the San Juan Islands. 
 We have about two weeks to spend on my Hillborne and her Atlantis exploring 
 the area. We live in Berkeley and are planning to take the amtrak up and 
 then ferry and cycle around.

 I know there are a bunch of NorWesters on this list and wanted to ask some 
 advice. We'll likely try to spend at least a day or two in Portland on our 
 way back as well.

 Is the Seattle Amtrak the best station to get off?
 If so, does this look like a good route to get to the ferry? 
 http://goo.gl/maps/uxOqM 
 Any campsites along that route that are recommended?
 Any words of wisdom about the islands themselves (things we must 
 see/avoid)?

 Looking forward to sharing images with the list when we return and also 
 open to any recommendations as they emerge.

 Cheers,
 Adam


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[RBW] Re: FS: Large assortment of nearly new and classical parts

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
Forgot two important things:

Utegra 9 spd triple crankset.

Photos at:
https://plus.google.com/photos/110692344592863063357/albums/5878216109144936897?gpinv=AMIXal_q-An2xko7DkOjHN85HyZlrbtEzoP2Qb3TUTcWWlkkfVzdvTacmOnE7JB66RYlgPMslf0lXwa0t0jjVnwFIZ9T9etYM0U1Ozz-Eo5O_lba_4uxdzccfem=1

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:13:08 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I spent the winter cleaning out my house, now its time to clean out the 
 shop.  All prices are plus shipping

 Rear Derailleurs:

 Campy NR, purchased new in 1983, in good condition - $35

 Campy Chorus, purchased new in 1988, in beautiful condition - $65

 Campy Centaur, new around 2005, good condition, long cage - $65

 Suntour Superbe -$35

 Shimano Deore XT - $35


 Front Derailleur - 

 Suntour Cyclone MII “Touring” - $20


 Shifters:

 Campy NR  DT- $10

 Campy Chorus DT, 7spd, only work in friction mode now - $10

 DuraAce - DT $10

 Shimano Ultegra 9spd Brifters - $35

 Shimano 8spd Bar Ends - $25


 Brakes:

   Side Pulls: 

 Ultegra BR 6500 (39-47) $25

 Ultegra BR -R600 (47-57) $50

 Campy Grand Sport (47-57) Single Pivot, NR Quality - $25

   Cantilever

 Tektro CR 720 New, These are same design as Riv model but very hi polish 
 $45

 StandardRack adapter bolts, New - $10


   Levers  

 Mafac NOS $75

 Dia Compe $15

 Suntour Superbe $25


 Bars  Stems

 Nitto 0356 44cm  nice bend with indent for cable  $35

 Marks Bars 42 cm - wrapped  used for two weeks before deciding on a 
 longer stem  return to Noodles  $70

 Cinelli Bar (42)  Stem (11)  very comfortable bend, short quill - $25

 Nitto Pearl Stem, gorgeous - 13cm - $50

 Nittto Tallex 8 CM, used for two weeks $35


 Fork - Chromed Steel with Canti studs, generous tire clearance  nice 
 bend, 1” threaded $50


 Decaleur - VO $10



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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Lovingly Used Burley Piccolo with two racks

2013-05-15 Thread Rick


 I have some hours with the Burley, and believe it is much better than the 
 alternatives because of the attachment point on the rack.  Many other 
 trail-a-bikes attach on the seatpost, and in addition to other drawbacks, 
 are for Riv owners a threat to the high point on the lug.  I found my 
 piccolo on the secondary market, don't believe they are still sold in the 
 States. 

 
 

 I feel the bittersweetness on the reason for the sale, time flies.

 
Rick.

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Re: [RBW] Dynamo charging system

2013-05-15 Thread shawn
Brian,
At times I was powering a headlight and taillight. 

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:18:38 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:

 Shawn - was the bright bike the only device drawing from the dynamo, or 
 did you also power lights?

 Mobile Brian Hanson

 On May 15, 2013, at 6:12 AM, shawn shawn@yahoo.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 For those of you who may be looking into a charging system for your dynamo 
 hub I thought I would share my recent experience with The Bright Bike 
 Revolution. http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution

 Last week I used the Revolution on a GAP-CO tour and it performed 
 perfectly. The Revolution kept our Iphones charged throughout the tour, 
 even during two days of solid rain. Here is a picture of it mounted to my 
 bike. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenwayrider/8741419984/in/photostream

 The Revolution worked as advertised and thus far it seems to be a viable 
 solution for those who would like to have the capability to charge their 
 electronic devices from a dynamo hub. 
 Cheers
 Shawn

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[RBW] Seeking advice for Oregon bike trip

2013-05-15 Thread Joan Oppel
Oregonian Riv listers - I'm deep into planning a bike trip for late August (more or less 23rd to 31st) and want to ride in the Cascades area. I'd love to get feedback from folks on my proposed route, and any information on a couple of questions. I'm going with a friend, we are NOT campers, so motel/cabins/whatever for lodging (not picky). We're distance bikers used to climbing (in the East), who love to stop and take in scenery, take pictures, picnic, etc. We don't mind long days, and are more interested in the day's journey than the end location. I've identified places to stay for each overnight, and we'll carry enough water and food for each day (if no services available). Oh, because of my friend's work schedule and family stuff, we've really only got 7 days for biking, though might be able to squeeze one more in if we can get exactly right flight timing.Here's our proposal (mileages are somewhat approximate though I've checked online mapping programs in detail so I think estimates are close):Rainbow to Oakridge (Auferheide Hwy) - 64 milesOakridge to Diamond Lake (I know it's part highway) - 86Diamond Lake to Crater Lake Mazama or Lodge - 42-50Crater Lake to Crescent Lake - 70Crescent Lake to Bend (Cascades Scenic Hwy) - 75Bend to Sisters - 30Sisters to Rainbow - 45Questions -Does anyone have information about Windigo Pass Road between Crescent Lake and Diamond Lake? Web research leads to a report of a touring cyclist who turned back because he thought it wasn't doable. But I'm wondering. Have also read 3 trip descriptions of cyclists who did the Hwy 97  Hwy 138 sections and found them doable, if not as fun as the more rural roads for other sections of this same tour.Is doing Cascades Scenic Hwy in one day shortchanging the route, that is, not leaving enough time to enjoy the scenery. There is at least one place to stay (cabins at a campground) midway between Crescent Lake  Bend. Staying there would mean we'd probably not overnight in Bend, but go on to Sisters for the overnight. Do we miss a great overnight in Bend or do we give more time to the scenic ride?Any suggestions for places to stay in Bend or Sisters?Your feedback is much much appreciated,JoanWho has biked a lot in the west: across Washington State, Sierra Mountains in Nevada, across all of southern Utah so if this part of Oregon is anything like any of those places, I'd have an idea of what to expect.



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[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Betty Foy New in Box

2013-05-15 Thread LeahFoy
Did you ever sell the Betty? I have a sister I'm trying to talk into getting 
one...

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[RBW] Re: SoCal Summer Rides

2013-05-15 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm up for any and all but would vote for the the Santa Monica's ride 
1st. Lock Leven sounds fun too.  San Clemente is good for hot days 
inland,perhaps later in the summer.  

~mike


  

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[RBW] Re: FS: Large assortment of nearly new and classical parts

2013-05-15 Thread PeterG
I'd take the tallux 8cm..peterg

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Re: [RBW] FS: Large assortment of nearly new and classical parts

2013-05-15 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
michael,
i would like the shimano 8 speed bar ends and ultegra 9 speed brifters if 
available. i assume the right side is friction/index, left side friction only 
for the 8 speed bar ends
mike goldman 
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Weird trick lets you collect silver from practically any bank
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Re: [RBW] Devil's slide tunnel

2013-05-15 Thread Lee
Doug,

Planet of the Apes (a.k.a. Old San Pedro Mountain Road) used to be the main 
road from South San Francisco/Pacifica to the coast/Half Moon Bay, etc. The 
old old Highway 1 as it were. The Devil's Slide Highway 1 route was created 
to replace it, and now it's a dilapidated, crumbling, sometimes-paved, 
sometimes-not path used by hikers and cyclists. It's pretty fun to ride. 
But, as Ray mentioned, if you are carrying a heavy or wide load, you may 
find it tedious. 

I have a few pics of it in the first part of this set:

*http://tinyurl.com/4xgu4ye*

Feel free to e-mail me when you get closer to your trip, if you need more 
specifics on how to get to the trail head from SF.

Best,
Lee

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:24:35 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 For those of us out of the area, what is the Planet of the Apes route?  I 
 may ride from San Francisco south this summer  an alternate to the Devil's 
 Slide area would be neat.  For some silly reason I assumed The Old Road 
 would be available for cycling as soon as the tunnel opened.

 dougP

 On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:24:41 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 How much of the road does the tunnel bypass? When I went through there a 
 few years ago, it looked like the tunnel started half way up the hill, so 
 you'd have to ride on the narrow busy road to get there. We went through at 
 rush hour. I thought I was going to die.

 Planet of the Apes for me next time.


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Way Rebb gray...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Has anyone been down around the devil's slide area since the tunnel 
 opened?  I might be taking the Hillborne down to HMB or SC next week for a 
 few days.  It'd be nice to see the old coast road with no traffic!   
  
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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread shawn m.
One question, Jan. You mentioned that WA State Parks can't turn you away if 
you arrived non-motorized. I've heard that before, but it's always 
been apocryphal; I've never been able to find an explicit statement of that 
as policy. Do you have a link or something? I BELIEVE that it's true, but 
I've always had this nagging fear that an overworked ranger or campground 
host is going to try to move me along after a long day in the saddle...

As for the San Juans, I wouldn't skip Orcas just because it's summer if 
that was the only time I could visit. If you you're coming from out of the 
area, and don't get up here often, I say check it out. As noted, and in 
more detail than I'll indulge in, there are a number of ways to piece 
together a route. That said, IMHO the I-5 corridor leaves much to be 
desired, Centennial Trail notwithstanding. If it were my trip (and it might 
be, come September), I'd Amtrack to Seattle, hop the Ferry to Bainbridge 
Island (the terminal is about 4 blocks from the train station), ride to 
Port Townsend, Ferry to Whidbey, ride to Anacortes and catch the island 
hopper to the islands. Bear in mind that if you decide to take in Victoria, 
BC, you'll have to depart from Anacortes directly, but it's totally worth 
it; both for Victoria and the ferry ride.

Cheers,
Shawn
Seattle, WA

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 There is some really good advice here. Generally, each island is unlikely 
 to keep you occupied cycling for more than 1-2 days. Orcas indeed is best 
 avoided in the summer.

 A nice route would be to go from Seattle via Bainbridge Island to Pt. 
 Townsend. The town is worth a trip by itself. From there, head over to 
 Whidbey Island, which means you avoid the busy southern part. Then 
 Anacortes and the islands. On the way back, go inland and take the old RSVP 
 (an organized ride by the Cascade Bike Club) back to Seattle.

 Seattle - Pt. Townsend is 60 miles or a day - it's quite hilly if you take 
 back roads. Pt. Townsend to Anacortes is half a day. Anacortes - Seattle 
 via the inland route is 100 miles, but not very hilly. That round-trip 
 might occupy you for 10-14 days if you take your time and take in the 
 sights. Plan a day in Pt. Townsend. If you run out of stuff to do, consider 
 checking out the Canadian Gulf Islands. I found them lovely, and much less 
 crowded.

 Make sure you seek out good backroads on the legs off the San Juan 
 islands. The main roads aren't much fun for cycling.

 Final note: WA State Parks cannot turn you away if you arrive 
 non-motorized, so they'll let you camp somewhere even if the campground is 
 full and you have no reservation.
 Final note 2: Ferries can be seriously behind schedule in the summer, but 
 at least you'll get on with your bike, where cars may have to wait for a 
 ferry or two until they get to the front of the line.

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Re: [RBW] Seeking advice for Oregon bike trip

2013-05-15 Thread Anne Paulson
I rode the Sierra Cascades last summer. Our group did not do Windigo Pass;
however, we did hear about it from southbound cyclists. And I also have a
friend who did it. We went through in early July, when the mosquitos were
just hatching, and heard that at that time the mosquitos in the Windigo
Pass area were horrible and the surface was difficult. We went north over
Crater Lake, and turned right at 138. That area seemed like practically a
desert, but when I stopped at that corner to put on sunblock I was mobbed
by mosquitoes.

A friend who was going south on the Sierra Cascades in late August 2010,
and who, like me, generally loves to take unpaved roads, did Windigo Pass
and didn't like it. He said the surface was loose and difficult.  This
friend and I rode cross-country in 2006, delighting in taking gravel roads
instead of paved roads when we could; he is not one of those  frail flowers
who can't have their tires touch a piece of gravel.

How are you planning to get from Crater Lake to Crescent Lake? Backtracking
past the lake, or going around via Klamath Falls? I don't recommend the
latter. The road from Crater Lakes to Klamath Falls is fine, but the part
of 97 that we rode, from Highway 138 to Highway 58, was nothing much. It
wasn't awful, and it was perfectly safe, but it was rather dreary, hot and
bare.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:

 Oregonian Riv listers - I'm deep into planning a bike trip for late August
 (more or less 23rd to 31st) and want to ride in the Cascades area.  I'd
 love to get feedback from folks on my proposed route, and any information
 on a couple of questions.  I'm going with a friend, we are NOT campers, so
 motel/cabins/whatever for lodging (not picky).  We're distance bikers used
 to climbing (in the East), who love to stop and take in scenery, take
 pictures, picnic, etc.  We don't mind long days, and are more interested in
 the day's journey than the end location.  I've identified places to stay
 for each overnight, and we'll carry enough water and food for each day (if
 no services available).  Oh, because of my friend's work schedule and
 family stuff, we've really only got 7 days for biking, though might be able
 to squeeze one more in if we can get exactly right flight timing.

 Here's our proposal (mileages are somewhat approximate though I've checked
 online mapping programs in detail so I think estimates are close):
 Rainbow to Oakridge (Auferheide Hwy) - 64 miles
 Oakridge to Diamond Lake (I know it's part highway) - 86
 Diamond Lake to Crater Lake Mazama or Lodge - 42-50
 Crater Lake to Crescent Lake - 70
 Crescent Lake to Bend (Cascades Scenic Hwy) - 75
 Bend to Sisters - 30
 Sisters to Rainbow - 45

 Questions -
 Does anyone have information about Windigo Pass Road between Crescent Lake
 and Diamond Lake?  Web research leads to a report of a touring cyclist who
 turned back because he thought it wasn't doable. But I'm wondering.  Have
 also read 3 trip descriptions of cyclists who did the Hwy 97  Hwy 138
 sections and found them doable, if not as fun as the more rural roads for
 other sections of this same tour.

 Is doing Cascades Scenic Hwy in one day shortchanging the route, that is,
 not leaving enough time to enjoy the scenery.  There is at least one place
 to stay (cabins at a campground) midway between Crescent Lake  Bend.
 Staying there would mean we'd probably not overnight in Bend, but go on to
 Sisters for the overnight.  Do we miss a great overnight in Bend or do we
 give more time to the scenic ride?

 Any suggestions for places to stay in Bend or Sisters?
 Your feedback is much much appreciated,
 Joan

 Who has biked a lot in the west: across Washington State, Sierra Mountains
 in Nevada, across all of southern Utah so if this part of Oregon is
 anything like any of those places, I'd have an idea of what to expect.

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[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread EGNolan
I don't carry a hatchet, I usually do okay with a pocket knife. I suppose 
if you were starting a large fire and couldn't find any downed, brittle 
wood, or were going to be out for an extended period of time it could be 
very useful. On short bike trips, it isn't usually needed, but the folks I 
know that have and carry them always find a use. It may not be needed but 

  


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Re: Re: [RBW] Seeking advice for Oregon bike trip

2013-05-15 Thread Joan Oppel
Great info on Windigo. So we'll skip it. How are you planning to get from Crater Lake to Crescent Lake? Backtracking past the lake, or going around via Klamath Falls? -- we are planning to backtrack around past the lake, I assume you mean Crater Lake. The idea is to ride the east rim, then go to Mazama or the Lodge. Then ride the west rim, connecting to the road backtracking to Rt 138. Many thanks,JoanOn 05/15/13, Anne Paulsonanne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:I rode the Sierra Cascades last summer. Our group did not do Windigo Pass; however, we did hear about it from southbound cyclists. And I also have a friend who did it. We went through in early July, when the mosquitos were just hatching, and heard that at that time the mosquitos in the Windigo Pass area were horrible and the surface was difficult. We went north over Crater Lake, and turned right at 138. That area seemed like practically a desert, but when I stopped at that corner to put on sunblock I was mobbed by mosquitoes.A friend who was going south on the Sierra Cascades in late August 2010, and who, like me, generally loves to take unpaved roads, did Windigo Pass and didn't like it. He said the surface was loose and difficult. This friend and I rode cross-country in 2006, delighting in taking gravel roads instead of paved roads when we could; he is not one of those frail flowers who can't have their tires touch a piece of gravel.How are you planning to get from Crater Lake to Crescent Lake? Backtracking past the lake, or going around via Klamath Falls? I don't recommend the latter. The road from Crater Lakes to Klamath Falls is fine, but the part of 97 that we rode, from Highway 138 to Highway 58, was nothing much. It wasn't awful, and it was perfectly safe, but it was rather dreary, hot and bare. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:Oregonian Riv listers - I'm deep into planning a bike trip for late August (more or less 23rd to 31st) and want to ride in the Cascades area. I'd love to get feedback from folks on my proposed route, and any information on a couple of questions. I'm going with a friend, we are NOT campers, so motel/cabins/whatever for lodging (not picky). We're distance bikers used to climbing (in the East), who love to stop and take in scenery, take pictures, picnic, etc. We don't mind long days, and are more interested in the day's journey than the end location. I've identified places to stay for each overnight, and we'll carry enough water and food for each day (if no services available). Oh, because of my friend's work schedule and family stuff, we've really only got 7 days for biking, though might be able to squeeze one more in if we can get exactly right flight timing.Here's our proposal (mileages are somewhat approximate though I've checked online mapping programs in detail so I think estimates are close):Rainbow to Oakridge (Auferheide Hwy) - 64 milesOakridge to Diamond Lake (I know it's part highway) - 86Diamond Lake to Crater Lake Mazama or Lodge - 42-50Crater Lake to Crescent Lake - 70Crescent Lake to Bend (Cascades Scenic Hwy) - 75Bend to Sisters - 30Sisters to Rainbow - 45Questions -Does anyone have information about Windigo Pass Road between Crescent Lake and Diamond Lake? Web research leads to a report of a touring cyclist who turned back because he thought it wasn't doable. But I'm wondering. Have also read 3 trip descriptions of cyclists who did the Hwy 97  Hwy 138 sections and found them doable, if not as fun as the more rural roads for other sections of this same tour.Is doing Cascades Scenic Hwy in one day shortchanging the route, that is, not leaving enough time to enjoy the scenery. There is at least one place to stay (cabins at a campground) midway between Crescent Lake  Bend. Staying there would mean we'd probably not overnight in Bend, but go on to Sisters for the overnight. Do we miss a great overnight in Bend or do we give more time to the scenic ride?Any suggestions for places to stay in Bend or Sisters?Your feedback is much much appreciated,JoanWho has biked a lot in the west: across Washington State, Sierra Mountains in Nevada, across all of southern Utah so if this part of Oregon is anything like any of those places, I'd have an idea of what to expect.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.-- -- Anne PaulsonMy hovercraft is full of eels-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this 

[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
A large knife is a recent addition to my bike camping tool belt. The reason 
I bought it was because I went on a few trips last year and people were 
able to chop bought firewood with their large knives. I'd always gathered 
sticks, pine needles, leaves, moss, and the like for kindling, but seeing 
how quick and easy it was to baton wood, I decided to get a suitable knife. 

Pic proves batoning wood is fast effective and fun... 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8692586913/

I would use a hatchet in the same way.

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[RBW] Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread Jan Heine
It's something that many listmembers seem to care about, so here is a 
heads-up on today's blog post.

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/bike-to-work-3-separate-or-equal/

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Re: Re: [RBW] Seeking advice for Oregon bike trip

2013-05-15 Thread Anne Paulson
PS: I don't have any recommendations on places to stay in either Bend or
Sisters; we camped outside Bend. But if you've never been to either, here's
the scoop. Bend is a city, a nice little city focussed on outdoor
recreation, the kind of place it'll take a half hour or more to cycle
through. I'm positive there are many motels and BBs. Sisters is a small
town about three or four blocks long. It hosts a quilt show every summer; I
would expect it has a couple of motels.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:

 Great info on Windigo.  So we'll skip it.

 How are you planning to get from Crater Lake to Crescent Lake?
 Backtracking past the lake, or going around via Klamath Falls? -- we are
 planning to backtrack around past the lake, I assume you mean Crater Lake.
  The idea is to ride the east rim, then go to Mazama or the Lodge.  Then
 ride the west rim, connecting to the road backtracking to Rt 138.
 Many thanks,
 Joan


 On 05/15/13, Anne Paulsonanne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 I rode the Sierra Cascades last summer. Our group did not do Windigo Pass;
 however, we did hear about it from southbound cyclists. And I also have a
 friend who did it. We went through in early July, when the mosquitos were
 just hatching, and heard that at that time the mosquitos in the Windigo
 Pass area were horrible and the surface was difficult. We went north over
 Crater Lake, and turned right at 138. That area seemed like practically a
 desert, but when I stopped at that corner to put on sunblock I was mobbed
 by mosquitoes.

 A friend who was going south on the Sierra Cascades in late August 2010,
 and who, like me, generally loves to take unpaved roads, did Windigo Pass
 and didn't like it. He said the surface was loose and difficult.  This
 friend and I rode cross-country in 2006, delighting in taking gravel roads
 instead of paved roads when we could; he is not one of those  frail flowers
 who can't have their tires touch a piece of gravel.

 How are you planning to get from Crater Lake to Crescent Lake?
 Backtracking past the lake, or going around via Klamath Falls? I don't
 recommend the latter. The road from Crater Lakes to Klamath Falls is fine,
 but the part of 97 that we rode, from Highway 138 to Highway 58, was
 nothing much. It wasn't awful, and it was perfectly safe, but it was rather
 dreary, hot and bare.


 On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:

 Oregonian Riv listers - I'm deep into planning a bike trip for late
 August (more or less 23rd to 31st) and want to ride in the Cascades area.
  I'd love to get feedback from folks on my proposed route, and any
 information on a couple of questions.  I'm going with a friend, we are NOT
 campers, so motel/cabins/whatever for lodging (not picky).  We're distance
 bikers used to climbing (in the East), who love to stop and take in
 scenery, take pictures, picnic, etc.  We don't mind long days, and are more
 interested in the day's journey than the end location.  I've identified
 places to stay for each overnight, and we'll carry enough water and food
 for each day (if no services available).  Oh, because of my friend's work
 schedule and family stuff, we've really only got 7 days for biking, though
 might be able to squeeze one more in if we can get exactly right flight
 timing.

 Here's our proposal (mileages are somewhat approximate though I've
 checked online mapping programs in detail so I think estimates are close):
 Rainbow to Oakridge (Auferheide Hwy) - 64 miles
 Oakridge to Diamond Lake (I know it's part highway) - 86
 Diamond Lake to Crater Lake Mazama or Lodge - 42-50
 Crater Lake to Crescent Lake - 70
 Crescent Lake to Bend (Cascades Scenic Hwy) - 75
 Bend to Sisters - 30
 Sisters to Rainbow - 45

 Questions -
 Does anyone have information about Windigo Pass Road between Crescent
 Lake and Diamond Lake?  Web research leads to a report of a touring cyclist
 who turned back because he thought it wasn't doable. But I'm wondering.
  Have also read 3 trip descriptions of cyclists who did the Hwy 97  Hwy
 138 sections and found them doable, if not as fun as the more rural roads
 for other sections of this same tour.

 Is doing Cascades Scenic Hwy in one day shortchanging the route, that is,
 not leaving enough time to enjoy the scenery.  There is at least one place
 to stay (cabins at a campground) midway between Crescent Lake  Bend.
 Staying there would mean we'd probably not overnight in Bend, but go on to
 Sisters for the overnight.  Do we miss a great overnight in Bend or do we
 give more time to the scenic ride?

 Any suggestions for places to stay in Bend or Sisters?
 Your feedback is much much appreciated,
 Joan

 Who has biked a lot in the west: across Washington State, Sierra
 Mountains in Nevada, across all of southern Utah so if this part of Oregon
 is anything like any of those places, I'd have an idea of what to expect.

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Re: [RBW] Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread John Blish
Thanks, Jan.  You have accurately summarized a troublesome situation.

In the dumbing down of nearly everything in the US I am concerned that
mandatory bike paths may become the norm without regard to the fact that
for most cyclists they are not safer.

It is the American Way to come up with an oversimplified solution to a
perceived problem and then mandate that as the one-size-fits-all answer.  I
am often instructed by motorists to get on the bike path when I ride in
the street alongside a mixed-use path.  The idea seems to be We spent all
this money to construct this bike path for you damn cyclists, now use it.
The Motoring Public is not ready to accept the fact that bike paths are not
safer.

Good job.

-jb


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 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/bike-to-work-3-separate-or-equal/

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[RBW] Re: Devil's slide tunnel

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Rivbike
I rode up Planet of the Apes, down the dirt to the highway then north back 
through the new tunnel on Saturday.  The stretch of road immediately before 
the tunnel is pretty dicey. No shoulder at all (not an exaggeration, none) 
and fast traffic taking the blind turns at speed. And once you're out, you 
have to merge into the car lane again, and they've picked up speed in the 
tunnel. That said, I survived! Once you're in the tunnel the bike lane is 
as wide as the car lane.  Hope a motorist won't confuse it for a passing 
lane though. It's neat in there, with huge fans blowing. Two things made me 
not want to do it again though: the tunnel amplified a motorcycle exhaust 
ripping through there so loud it was.. unpleasant, and it had to be 100 
degrees in there, despite being a cool Pacifica day. 

The opposite is taking the PoftheApes. Quiet, secluded, maybe a bit 
challenging, cool, ocean views. 
The old condemned part of the highway did not appear to be open yet. It 
will be a neat loop if/when they do. 

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:22:19 PM UTC-7, Way Rebb wrote:

 Hello,

 Has anyone been down around the devil's slide area since the tunnel 
 opened?  I might be taking the Hillborne down to HMB or SC next week for a 
 few days.  It'd be nice to see the old coast road with no traffic!   


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[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
One thought about starting/ending in Randle... not sure we have many 
options for places to leave cars... especially if we go overnight.  

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Re: [RBW] Devil's slide tunnel

2013-05-15 Thread Philip Williamson
He describes the road surface as scrofulous! Is Henry Kingman still riding 
and writing?

Philip
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Re: [RBW] Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread Peter Morgano
As someone who braves the streets of non-hipsterized Brooklyn it was an
interesting read to see how cities with at least attempting to help
cyclists, attempt being the key word. I agree that riding headlong into
traffic, even with a divider is an awful idea that I could never do. To be
honest in the parts of Brooklyn without any kind of path its safer because
drivers don't have that line painted on the road that makes them feel all
fuzzy and warm that you aren't going to die. With no sharrows we all have
to just share the road and it makes drivers more aware of you and gives you
more of a sense of purpose on the road rather than some second class
citizen that belongs on their path. if I see a lot of car doors opening on
a road or know there are people getting in and out like at a school I just
ride in the lane like a car, and people just have to deal for a minute or
two, with so many lights no one is going anywhere that fast anyway, why
should we have to ride in the death zone where all the car doors are?


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 Thanks, Jan.  You have accurately summarized a troublesome situation.

 In the dumbing down of nearly everything in the US I am concerned that
 mandatory bike paths may become the norm without regard to the fact that
 for most cyclists they are not safer.

 It is the American Way to come up with an oversimplified solution to a
 perceived problem and then mandate that as the one-size-fits-all answer.  I
 am often instructed by motorists to get on the bike path when I ride in
 the street alongside a mixed-use path.  The idea seems to be We spent all
 this money to construct this bike path for you damn cyclists, now use it.
 The Motoring Public is not ready to accept the fact that bike paths are not
 safer.

 Good job.

 -jb


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 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/bike-to-work-3-separate-or-equal/

 Feel free to join the discussion.

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Lovingly Used Burley Piccolo with two racks

2013-05-15 Thread William
Rick

I agree that it is by far the sturdiest and safest one to use.  

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:02:49 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:

 I have some hours with the Burley, and believe it is much better than the 
 alternatives because of the attachment point on the rack.  Many other 
 trail-a-bikes attach on the seatpost, and in addition to other drawbacks, 
 are for Riv owners a threat to the high point on the lug.  I found my 
 piccolo on the secondary market, don't believe they are still sold in the 
 States. 

  
  

 I feel the bittersweetness on the reason for the sale, time flies.

  
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[RBW] Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
I use a Kelly Kettle Stove, which burns a small amount of wood to boil water 
and grill steak etc. At first I carried my wee hatchet I've had since I was 7, 
but my bare hands and on occasion Swiss Army knife handle all the work I need 
to do, so I leave it home now. The only real use for it would be to pound in 
tent stakes, but there's always a rock available on sight.

Hope that helps.

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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread samh
Oh man, I want to go touring!  Any idea where does the ACA route goes? 
 Does it hug the east side of all those islands?

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:03:14 AM UTC-6, shawn m. wrote:


 As for the San Juans, I wouldn't skip Orcas just because it's summer if 
 that was the only time I could visit. If you you're coming from out of the 
 area, and don't get up here often, I say check it out. As noted, and in 
 more detail than I'll indulge in, there are a number of ways to piece 
 together a route. That said, IMHO the I-5 corridor leaves much to be 
 desired, Centennial Trail notwithstanding. If it were my trip (and it might 
 be, come September), I'd Amtrack to Seattle, hop the Ferry to Bainbridge 
 Island (the terminal is about 4 blocks from the train station), ride to 
 Port Townsend, Ferry to Whidbey, ride to Anacortes and catch the island 
 hopper to the islands. Bear in mind that if you decide to take in Victoria, 
 BC, you'll have to depart from Anacortes directly, but it's totally worth 
 it; both for Victoria and the ferry ride.

 Cheers,
 Shawn
 Seattle, WA

 On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:53:46 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:

 There is some really good advice here. Generally, each island is unlikely 
 to keep you occupied cycling for more than 1-2 days. Orcas indeed is best 
 avoided in the summer.

 A nice route would be to go from Seattle via Bainbridge Island to Pt. 
 Townsend. The town is worth a trip by itself. From there, head over to 
 Whidbey Island, which means you avoid the busy southern part. Then 
 Anacortes and the islands. On the way back, go inland and take the old RSVP 
 (an organized ride by the Cascade Bike Club) back to Seattle.

 Seattle - Pt. Townsend is 60 miles or a day - it's quite hilly if you 
 take back roads. Pt. Townsend to Anacortes is half a day. Anacortes - 
 Seattle via the inland route is 100 miles, but not very hilly. That 
 round-trip might occupy you for 10-14 days if you take your time and take 
 in the sights. Plan a day in Pt. Townsend. If you run out of stuff to do, 
 consider checking out the Canadian Gulf Islands. I found them lovely, and 
 much less crowded.

 Make sure you seek out good backroads on the legs off the San Juan 
 islands. The main roads aren't much fun for cycling.

 Final note: WA State Parks cannot turn you away if you arrive 
 non-motorized, so they'll let you camp somewhere even if the campground is 
 full and you have no reservation.
 Final note 2: Ferries can be seriously behind schedule in the summer, but 
 at least you'll get on with your bike, where cars may have to wait for a 
 ferry or two until they get to the front of the line.

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[RBW] ISO 32 hole, disk-specific, front hub, preferably black.

2013-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
For the Fargo's fat wheelset; black to match rear hub. Reason: current
dynohub will go to the Ram.

Trades? What do you need? Cash? How much?

Need not be fancy, but must be smooth and decent looking.

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[RBW] Re: Let's ride to the Swift Industries camp stove cookery class May 19th

2013-05-15 Thread Scot Brooks
See you there, Rob. I rode the part of the trail I'd never been on before 
(Bothell to U District) last night and it was pretty awesome. Such nice 
views along the water. Who says Rail Trails have to be boring?

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT - Shimano CX70 Cantilever Brakes (New)

2013-05-15 Thread Chris
Price dropped to $90 + actual shipping cost.  Thanks!

On Friday, May 3, 2013 7:40:44 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote:

 One set of Shimano CX70 Cantilever 
 Brakeshttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc3.htm. 
  Front and Rear,good for one bike.  New in box.

 FS - $110, shipped to Continental US

 FT - for a pair of Grand Bois Cyprès 700C (32mm) tires

 Please reply off list.  Thanks!


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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Sam, here is the Pacific Coast info. You can see more info under details for 
each section. 
http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes-and-maps/adventure-cycling-route-network/pacific-coast/

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Devil's slide tunnel

2013-05-15 Thread oldmangabe
The old road is closed.  You can't go on it like Lee said.  I've ridden the 
tunnel both ways numerous times and I find it safe and acceptable.  Get 
there early (before 9am) or late in the day and you should be fine.  
Regardless one should feel comfortable riding with some traffic for about 
2-3 miles on either side of the Tunnel.  The narrow shoulder is only for a 
short section before and after the Tunnel.  The tunnel has a HUGE shoulder 
and cars are going relatively slow, and the tunnel is well lit and vented.  
When exiting the tunnel, wait or time yourself for a break in the traffic 
(traffic pulses through here due to traffic lights in Pacifica/Linda Mar) 
and take the lane till the shoulder reappears.  People will usually wait 
for you to get to Moss Beach.  Pluses for the tunnel are it is quicker, you 
get to ride through a tunnel under a mountain, and you get to ride along 
the cliffs and the ocean. If this sounds like too much ride Planet of the 
Apes, which adds some dirt adventure, more miles and climbing, and about 
half hour to hour more riding time.  Plus, getting to the start of Planet 
can be a bit tricky if you don't know where it is.  

Gabe

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:22:19 PM UTC-7, Way Rebb wrote:

 Hello,

 Has anyone been down around the devil's slide area since the tunnel 
 opened?  I might be taking the Hillborne down to HMB or SC next week for a 
 few days.  It'd be nice to see the old coast road with no traffic!   


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Re: [RBW] Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I have no need of an axe or hatchet but I have to admit, after looking at
the Gransfors website (in translation) I can't imagine how I've made it
through 55 years without one. :-)

The US importers site (grandforest.us) there's a great little book, The Axe
Book (http://www.grandforest.us/TheAxeBook.pdf) which reminds a lot of the
Reader.

Aloha,

Bob


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:57 PM, ChrisB chrisbjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All

 Looking through Manny's photos (many thanks Manny for sharing and great
 stuff) I saw that there is a photo of the new hand hatchet in the Gransfors
 Bruks range.

 I remember when Rivendell were selling these a few years ago and loved the
 design and the ethos behind the company (not too dissimilar to Great
 Pacific Ironworks unless I'm mistaken). It seemed consistent with Riv's
 philosophy of a simple, quality (honesty perhaps) that over a lifetime
 would offer value and just get more beautiful with age and use.

 However, I never did spring for one because I couldn't see how I would use
 it on a bike camping trip (and not look like slightly Jack Nicholson in the
 Shining)...

 I know they're highly revered in bushcraft circles: I googled and can see
 how they are a nice compromise between a larger axe and smaller bushcraft
 knife and can do the tasks of both well in skilled hands; making tent pegs,
 feathering sticks for kindling, making simple shelters, skinning fish,
 making traps etc.

 But, I imagine that most of us would use a tents, will take
 straightforward food and would be using a stove of some sort - perhaps the
 Trangia (another wonderfully designed item) which burns meths. Weight's not
 so much an issue (0.5kg) but it's a dense item and transport may be
 (perhaps wrapped in tincloth in a pannier would be fine). So, it's not like
 it's a bandana that we're chucking in here...

 So, I guess my rambling question is, if you've got one, how d'ya use it on
 bike trips?

 Chris

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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here is the complete network map of Adventure Cycling's routes:
http://www.adventurecycling.org/tasks/render/file/index.cfm?fileid=DEAF1E72-CBF7-4E83-8F0A0B4605CA2014

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[RBW] FS front wheel

2013-05-15 Thread Rusty Click
FS, a Rich built, 700c F36 Synergy LX front wheel.  Lonely, and needs a new 
home.  approx. 3000miles on it.
Asking $60 shipped US.  Contact off site if interested.

Rusty

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Re: [RBW] Devil's slide tunnel

2013-05-15 Thread dougP
Anne:

Thanks for the route slip  description.  This definitely sounds worth 
doing.

Lee:

Great photos.  Looks like your group had a wonderful adventure.  Those old 
used-to-be-paved type of roads make for great cycling.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:33:06 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 http://www.milly.org/hkingman/resume/potar.htm


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript:wrote:

 For those of us out of the area, what is the Planet of the Apes route?  I 
 may ride from San Francisco south this summer  an alternate to the Devil's 
 Slide area would be neat.  For some silly reason I assumed The Old Road 
 would be available for cycling as soon as the tunnel opened.

 dougP


 On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:24:41 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 How much of the road does the tunnel bypass? When I went through there a 
 few years ago, it looked like the tunnel started half way up the hill, so 
 you'd have to ride on the narrow busy road to get there. We went through at 
 rush hour. I thought I was going to die.

 Planet of the Apes for me next time.


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 Hello,

 Has anyone been down around the devil's slide area since the tunnel 
 opened?  I might be taking the Hillborne down to HMB or SC next week for a 
 few days.  It'd be nice to see the old coast road with no traffic!   
  
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[RBW] Re: FS: Large assortment of nearly new and classical parts

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
As of right now I have offers for Campy NR  DA shifters., Campy NR and 
Superbe RD, Cyclone FD, pedals, Cinelli bar  stem, 8cm Tallex, Ultegra 
short reach brakes, and the decalleur.  Given the large number of items and 
buyers it would be a help to me if you responded to Mhechmer@gmail and used 
your first name  items in the subject line.  I'm going crazy trying to 
keep track of many different threads combined by google!

Two very nice bars, pearl stem, Shimano  Tektro brakes, Mafac levers  a 
super nice fork, etc still available.

Michael 

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:13:08 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I spent the winter cleaning out my house, now its time to clean out the 
 shop.  All prices are plus shipping

 Rear Derailleurs:

 Campy NR, purchased new in 1983, in good condition - $35

 Campy Chorus, purchased new in 1988, in beautiful condition - $65

 Campy Centaur, new around 2005, good condition, long cage - $65

 Suntour Superbe -$35

 Shimano Deore XT - $35


 Front Derailleur - 

 Suntour Cyclone MII “Touring” - $20


 Shifters:

 Campy NR  DT- $10

 Campy Chorus DT, 7spd, only work in friction mode now - $10

 DuraAce - DT $10

 Shimano Ultegra 9spd Brifters - $35

 Shimano 8spd Bar Ends - $25


 Brakes:

   Side Pulls: 

 Ultegra BR 6500 (39-47) $25

 Ultegra BR -R600 (47-57) $50

 Campy Grand Sport (47-57) Single Pivot, NR Quality - $25

   Cantilever

 Tektro CR 720 New, These are same design as Riv model but very hi polish 
 $45

 StandardRack adapter bolts, New - $10


   Levers  

 Mafac NOS $75

 Dia Compe $15

 Suntour Superbe $25


 Bars  Stems

 Nitto 0356 44cm  nice bend with indent for cable  $35

 Marks Bars 42 cm - wrapped  used for two weeks before deciding on a 
 longer stem  return to Noodles  $70

 Cinelli Bar (42)  Stem (11)  very comfortable bend, short quill - $25

 Nitto Pearl Stem, gorgeous - 13cm - $50

 Nittto Tallex 8 CM, used for two weeks $35


 Fork - Chromed Steel with Canti studs, generous tire clearance  nice 
 bend, 1” threaded $50


 Decaleur - VO $10



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[RBW] Re: Brief mid-day bosque ramble

2013-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
ICW this sort of ride -- firmish dirt but with some sandy patches and some
deepish gravel, plus pavement: what tire do y'all choose?

I know that the 60 mm (61mm actual) Big Apples are overkill, particularly
on the 44 mm wide rims, but man, they do ride nicely in the low 20s on this
sort of terrain. Lower, they rather squirm on pavement, though I've ridden
them down to 12/16 -- the front wheel dives a bit under 20 front -- tho'
far, far less than on a, say, 25 mm rim. Higher they jar on roots and
things. 20-25 is good, tho' for a very sandy ride I'll drop the pressures
as above.

I think I've got the gearing set up just right for me: 38/24 (the 24 being
in practice a notional chainring, since I never use it) and home-made
13-15-16-17-18-20-23-26-32 9 speed cassette. The 38/17 -- 65 -- is good
for most pavement, with the 16/69 and 15/73 just a cog or two away; the
18/61 is perfect for much of the dirt I ride. And, I have 55, 48, 42,
and 34 gears waiting, all still on the 38 t. High is 85, but I figure
that, if I am aiming downhill at a speed of more than 30 mph -- easily
reached in that gear -- I might as well coast. Even the Ram tops out at 85.

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 I took a break from resumes to take the Fargo with new-to-me B136 bar
 through our Rio Grand-side bosque; 16.5 miles, 3/4 dirt -- levee roads. The
 bike is very well set up for this sort of flattish, firm-dirt riding.

 The City is building observation decks along the river; this is the first.
 Nearby grazed wild but perfectly composed -- and sometimes malignant, as
 I've experienced -- geese.

 Forgive the near-obligatory finger over the viewfinder in the first photo.

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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread Nick Worthington
 

The Anacortes - Sydney ferry to Victoria does make a stop in Friday 
Harbor.  Once a day.  

 

+1 for Victoria.  You can take the Lochside trail from Sidney to Victoria, 
and the Galloping Goose trail from Victoria to Sooke Potholes Provincial 
Park/campground.

 

Pictures prove anyone can ride the Goose.  *http://tinyurl.com/bsf4vkz*

Nick W.

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:03:14 AM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote:
 

 Bear in mind that if you decide to take in Victoria, BC, you'll have to 
 depart from Anacortes directly, but it's totally worth it; both for 
 Victoria and the ferry ride.



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[RBW] Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-15 Thread Michael
Bad idea?
I have 36 holers and was wondering if that will mess up the true.
I want to learn to do it for handling skills but don't want to trash my 
rims.
Whaddya' think?
Do you do it on yours?

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[RBW] Re: Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-15 Thread Scot Brooks
I can't tell you that, but I can tell you that everyone's next question is 
going to be hmm, which tires will be joining the wheels on these bunny 
hops?

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[RBW] Re: Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I don't use Synergy rims unless there's no other option, because they are 
prone to cracking around the eyelets. Supposedly this problem has been 
addressed in recent production runs, but we'll see. 

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:29:54 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Bad idea?
 I have 36 holers and was wondering if that will mess up the true.
 I want to learn to do it for handling skills but don't want to trash my 
 rims.
 Whaddya' think?
 Do you do it on yours?


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[RBW] Re: Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread hsmitham
Jan,

Very well thought out points in regards to safety and bike paths, yes turns 
at intersections are the greatest hazard for cyclists due to 
restricted visibility which paths do not protect the cyclist from . I for 
one like bike trails where ever possible. Here in LA we have a great many 
bike trails that are wonderful but could be better utilized if 
interconnected through a series of bike lanes. I have noticed in the recent 
 years the addition of signs first to share the road and now that cyclists 
are permitted to take a lane, this seemingly small addition is IMHO a huge 
improvement for all using the roadways.

 I think it interesting that the notion of a path causes motorist to yell 
at cyclists to get on the path? I think continued education for the public 
at large and additional signage and perhaps signals at intersections of 
high incident could over time be a solution. Of importance is for cyclist 
to recognize that intersections are the greatest hazard and approach all 
with caution. I have ridden for years in Downtown Los Angeles traffic and 
will move left around automobiles making a right turn. I will take a lane 
when necessary and always enter an intersection making a left as though I 
am invisible.

Thanks for a truly interesting topic and one of great importance. The road 
to paradise passes over rocks and other obstacles but well worth the effort.

Hugh
Sunland ( dodging cars) CA

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30:18 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:

 It's something that many listmembers seem to care about, so here is a 
 heads-up on today's blog post.

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/bike-to-work-3-separate-or-equal/

 Feel free to join the discussion.

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Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: Lovingly Used Burley Piccolo with two racks

2013-05-15 Thread Peter Morgano
Stupid question, but does the child in question have to be able to balance
on a regular bike to use/enjoy the Piccolo? My daughter likes to be
trailered around and is grousing for an add a bike but doesn't know how to
ride on her own yet.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rick

 I agree that it is by far the sturdiest and safest one to use.

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:02:49 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:

 I have some hours with the Burley, and believe it is much better than the
 alternatives because of the attachment point on the rack.  Many other
 trail-a-bikes attach on the seatpost, and in addition to other drawbacks,
 are for Riv owners a threat to the high point on the lug.  I found my
 piccolo on the secondary market, don't believe they are still sold in the
 States.




 I feel the bittersweetness on the reason for the sale, time flies.


 Rick.

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Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: Lovingly Used Burley Piccolo with two racks

2013-05-15 Thread William
She only needs to hold on.  The Piccolo tilts with your bike.  If your bike 
stays upright, the Piccolo stays upright.  It's a great training tool to 
get her used to pedalling strong, holding onto the bars with a firm but 
relaxed upper body, and gets her used to the feeling of the bike leaning on 
turns.  

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:39:05 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Stupid question, but does the child in question have to be able to balance 
 on a regular bike to use/enjoy the Piccolo? My daughter likes to be 
 trailered around and is grousing for an add a bike but doesn't know how to 
 ride on her own yet. 


 On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM, William tape...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 Rick

 I agree that it is by far the sturdiest and safest one to use.  

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:02:49 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:

 I have some hours with the Burley, and believe it is much better than 
 the alternatives because of the attachment point on the rack.  Many other 
 trail-a-bikes attach on the seatpost, and in addition to other drawbacks, 
 are for Riv owners a threat to the high point on the lug.  I found my 
 piccolo on the secondary market, don't believe they are still sold in the 
 States. 

  
  

 I feel the bittersweetness on the reason for the sale, time flies.

  
 Rick.

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[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-15 Thread Manuel Acosta
Roll call? I know Mike and Dustin might be down also one of the many Adams 
on this list.
Any other takers?

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:15:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people riding 
 their bikes really fast up a mountain. 
 Doing an overnighter somewhere over Diablo. Planning on heading out from 
 walnut creek bart around 6ish on Friday 
 and riding the most of the mountain to get to our campsite.

 Camping somewhere and riding the next day to check out the race. 
 Expect to bring food for that Friday's dinner, breakfast and lunch snacks 
 for that Saturday.

 Route could be similar to the new year's ride..
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/TvuBu8bc-R4/ozaqpT14Rv8J

 Which means it will be ruddy and steeply stupid at some sections. Knobs 
 for this ride wouldn't be a bad idea.

 -Manny Acosta




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[RBW] Re: SoCal Summer Rides

2013-05-15 Thread hsmitham
I second Mike's preferences save the San Clemente for July and beyond. The 
L.L. ride does sound intriguing  but the Gnats! Both of my last two dirt 
rides at elevation were Gnats and then some! But I'm game. Let's plan it. 
I'll post my blocked out times at the Riv SoCAl discussion.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:39:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I started this conversation over on flickr if anyone wants to throw some 
 ideas out there.


 http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157633499193066/

 The San Clemente ride is a great intro to mixed-terrain riding, so that 
 might be a good one to settle on. Santa Monica/Dirt Mulholland is a step or 
 two more challenging due to all the climbing involved. The SART and Big 
 Bear rides are verging on mountain bike rides, although I have rode my Rivy 
 on them plenty (but with knobbies) and lived to tell the tale. 

 Lets get something going!

 Cheers,
 David

  

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[RBW] Re: Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
Great post Jan.  I am forwarding to all of my relatives who don't 
understand why I often ride near the middle of the road and avoid adjacent 
bike paths.
Thanks.
Michael

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 It's something that many listmembers seem to care about, so here is a 
 heads-up on today's blog post.

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/bike-to-work-3-separate-or-equal/

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[RBW] Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-15 Thread Kainalu
I can't see how bunny hoppin' is any worse than riding over a bump at speed.  
It's definitely a lot more fun.  I say do it!
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-15 Thread Michael
Scot Brooks wrote:

 Q: hmm, which tires will be joining the wheels on these bunny hops?

 
 A: Marathons and/or Hetres50psi for both probably...

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[RBW] Re: Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread Mattt


  

 
The advice I can provide is before crossing an intersection slow down, look 
around at cars coming, make eye contact with drivers.  You my have to stop 
to make eye contact or avoid the car.  However, rather be delayed 30 
seconds than inured or dead. 

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[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread Alex Moll
OK Liesl - I'm intrigued and impressed! Did you burn that pattern with a 
hand-held wood burner? After penciling it in? Are you willing to share any 
details or secrets?

I had that same hatchet, and traded up to one of the small axes for car 
camping.

What make is the knife?

Cheers,
Alex

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:52:35 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 hopefully here's an image of the axe.


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Re: [RBW] Devil's slide tunnel

2013-05-15 Thread Mike Schiller
wow Lee. that looked like an awesome trip.  

~mike

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:02:37 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote:

 Doug,

 Planet of the Apes (a.k.a. Old San Pedro Mountain Road) used to be the 
 main road from South San Francisco/Pacifica to the coast/Half Moon Bay, 
 etc. The old old Highway 1 as it were. The Devil's Slide Highway 1 route 
 was created to replace it, and now it's a dilapidated, crumbling, 
 sometimes-paved, sometimes-not path used by hikers and cyclists. It's 
 pretty fun to ride. But, as Ray mentioned, if you are carrying a heavy or 
 wide load, you may find it tedious. 

 I have a few pics of it in the first part of this set:

 *http://tinyurl.com/4xgu4ye*

 Feel free to e-mail me when you get closer to your trip, if you need more 
 specifics on how to get to the trail head from SF.

 Best,
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[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets

2013-05-15 Thread Leslie
Love the Celtic touch.


There's an outdoor shop in the next town over that has started carrying 
Gransfors... I admire/drool over the stuff when I pass by the display, but 
have yet to cough it up for one...





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 hopefully here's an image of the axe.


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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

2013-05-15 Thread Jan Heine
All I can tell you is that several park rangers mentioned this to me.

Jan Heine
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On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:03:14 AM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote:

 One question, Jan. You mentioned that WA State Parks can't turn you away 
 if you arrived non-motorized. I've heard that before, but it's always 
 been apocryphal; I've never been able to find an explicit statement of that 
 as policy. Do you have a link or something? I BELIEVE that it's true


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[RBW] Re: FS, Nitto Honjo Campi etc

2013-05-15 Thread JL
Update of the for sale list.  Please reply off list if you are interested.

I have a few items for sale - all prices include shipping in CONUSA.  I 
 don't mind shipping internationally lets work something out.

 Nitto Technomic deluxe - 100mm - VGC $50

 Mr. Tuffy for 559 to 584 wide tires - $7

 Sugino 75 BB Spindle ISO (campy) 109mm VGC -$25
 Specialized cup and cone 68mm BB 114.5 ISO spindle - $25

 Nitto 115 classic bar 45cm - $40 in person only
 Honjo 700x40 hammered fenders w/stays -$60 in person only  - (Sale pending)

 I am happy to send pics.

 Email offlist please.

 Thanks
 Jason Leach
 SF,CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Lanes vs. Bike Paths vs. On-Road Cycling

2013-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This just FWIW, about which I make no estimate nor by which do I mean to
advocate anything. Simply in case it's of interest.

I'd be interested in the comments of any Minneapolitanites.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2013/01/minneapolis-reducing-bike-crashes-studying-them-detail/4503/

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[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-15 Thread Brencho
My pops is visiting from Argentina so I have to (unwillingly) pass. Next 
time!


On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:15:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people riding 
 their bikes really fast up a mountain. 
 Doing an overnighter somewhere over Diablo. Planning on heading out from 
 walnut creek bart around 6ish on Friday 
 and riding the most of the mountain to get to our campsite.

 Camping somewhere and riding the next day to check out the race. 
 Expect to bring food for that Friday's dinner, breakfast and lunch snacks 
 for that Saturday.

 Route could be similar to the new year's ride..
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/TvuBu8bc-R4/ozaqpT14Rv8J

 Which means it will be ruddy and steeply stupid at some sections. Knobs 
 for this ride wouldn't be a bad idea.

 -Manny Acosta




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[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-15 Thread EastBayGuy
In. 

Dustin G 
WC Ca
http://velocampeur.tumblr.com/

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[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-15 Thread EastBayGuy
In. 

Dustin G 
WC Ca
http://velocampeur.tumblr.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Summer Rides

2013-05-15 Thread cyclotourist
They're not that bad (gnats). Well, they're actually really bad on the
climb out at the end, but on the singletrack they're not too bad.

But yeah, save SC and SM for when it's really hot!

Cheers,
David



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I second Mike's preferences save the San Clemente for July and beyond. The
 L.L. ride does sound intriguing  but the Gnats! Both of my last two dirt
 rides at elevation were Gnats and then some! But I'm game. Let's plan it.
 I'll post my blocked out times at the Riv SoCAl discussion.

 ~Hugh


 On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:39:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I started this conversation over on flickr if anyone wants to throw some
 ideas out there.

 http://www.flickr.com/groups/**socal_rivendell_bicycle_**
 appreciation_society/discuss/**72157633499193066/http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157633499193066/

 The San Clemente ride is a great intro to mixed-terrain riding, so that
 might be a good one to settle on. Santa Monica/Dirt Mulholland is a step or
 two more challenging due to all the climbing involved. The SART and Big
 Bear rides are verging on mountain bike rides, although I have rode my Rivy
 on them plenty (but with knobbies) and lived to tell the tale.

 Lets get something going!

 Cheers,
 David

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