date:20130520

Been working on a bike project the past month, and had some great help from 
Patrick Moore - he donated the wheels.  Finished Saturday and took a maiden 
voyage to the brewpub on Sunday.  The frame - lightweight lugged steel made 
by Francesco Moser in my size  (64 cm)  - won as a lowball snipe on ebay.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP4290009.jpg

Frame came with a Campy Mirage bottom bracket and a needle bearing headset, 
though that stem and I won't get along.  Built from Dedacciai Zero 
Tre triple butted Cr-Mo tubing - the spec'ed frame weighs 4 lbs. and the 
graphics identify this bike as late 90s.  

I have the moustache cockpit on my old Raleigh dialed in perfectly, so I 
started with a sitbone to hood measurement, planning to duplicate it in the 
top hood position on the Moser.  Went with Cinelli 64 bars, 10 cm Nitto 
Deluxe (long Pearl) stem, with 80mm of quill showing.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5060002.jpg

I was hoping to re-use whatever parts I had around and made do with my 
rebuilt Shimano 600 EX rear derailleur (the VO red pullies made a cool 
touch).  I had the new Dia Compe brake levers in a parts box.  Front 
derailleur is a used Campy Daytona for $17 on ebay.  But I was also hoping 
to re-use a really nice Sugino Nuovo-Record-clone crankset, but Q was too 
low, and it would rub the chainstay.  So I went shopping on ebay again.  I 
discovered that even though BIN prices are crazy, naughties-era Campy parts 
sell cheap in auction.  Seems everybody wants the latest skeleton 11-speed 
et. al.  and 10-speed or older goes cheap.  I paid $100 for a NOS Centaur 
crankset and even happier, these beautiful Chorus dual pivot brakes removed 
from a floor bike for $70  Since Patrick gave me the nice wheels on really 
nice hubs, I sprung for the good Challenge Parigi-Robaix 27mm tubulars 
(hoping I have better luck with these than he's having with the clinchers)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5110001-1.jpg
 

Already a fan of the Thomson Elite seatpost on my other bike, I went with 
the lighter Masterpiece for this one, and the Selle Titanico X saddle. 
 Jury is still out on the Selle waterproof white leather bar tape - it has 
square sharp edges, but isn't a real problem with padded gloves.  The 
saddle - most invisible saddle I've ever ridden, but not without a hitch...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5110001.jpg

My old KKT pedals with Cinelli alloy clips and Ale yellow straps.  Last 
piece to come in was a Zenith 8-speed freewheel from SJS in the UK.  13 to 
24 - on the 39T front chainring, my 8 gears are 43 to 80 inches, with a 5 
spread between gears - all very useful.  I'll let you know how the 
freewheel holds up...  Chain is the 9-speed hollow-pin SRAM, good buy at 
Outside Outfitters, but they just beat the UK shipping by only 2 days - 
they are very slow.  The crowning touch are my straight lever Campy Grand 
Sport QR skewers.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190022.jpg

I'm in for $650 and ready for the maiden ride.  A minimalist tool kit in a 
Randi Jo bar bag.  I already hate the bar-end bell - it rattles and was the 
first thing to come off.  Have to come up with a new bell bell plan.  Any 
recommendations on a small bell?  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190002.jpg

There's a 12-block zone south of my buddy's house that you're taking your 
life into your hands, and since I had to haul my bike in the truck anyway, 
we hauled both bikes to Breckenridge park and rode into downtown from 
there.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190021.jpg

We first rode north to the bike shop (Bike World) but found they didn't 
open until noon, so back down Broadway to S. Alamo and Blue Star - there 
the bike shop was open and it was a good thing.  My saddle had stretched so 
much in the first 8 miles that it spread over the adjusting bolt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190007.jpg

My buddy bought the pump he wanted, the gentleman at the Blue Star bike 
shop would not let me work on my bike - he fixed it right up for me,.  On 
to the Mission trail.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190008.jpg

The Mission trail is a nice ride, 8 miles from Blue Star south along the 
San Antonio River to Espada park.  You have the option to stop and tour the 
missions, which makes for a great family outing 
http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/hikebike.htm  Of course that also 
means family traffic on the trail, so good bell, good brakes and patience, 
grasshopper.  There is also a dearth of shade here - the river was scoured 
for flood control - a few of the parks at creek mouths have shade that you 
treat like oases - stop and hydrate.

[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-20 Thread Mike

Looks like such a fun trip. Thanks, yet again, for the outstanding images.

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Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

2013-05-20 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 11:03 -0400, clyde canter wrote:
 Hmm,
 When I try the link I get a picture of the lever with an arrow
 pointing to a red knob that says clearly, q-r knob.  These were sold
 by RBW a while back, but no longer. RBW's description of them said
 they came with a quick release.  It IS in fact some sort or quick
 release mechanism  or marked as such, and they ARE inline levers.
  Perhaps this link works better:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Tektro-RL740-Road-Bicycle-Bike-V-Brake-Levers-Silver-/360564070850
 

Now those look like brake levers!  They're also the only in-line levers
I've ever seen that have a QR mechanism.  Paul levers and earlier Tektro
models, whether sold as Tektro or Nashbar (I've owned all of these) have
no such mechanisms.  I don't understand why they would be needed.



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[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-20 Thread dougP

Pictures prove no one looks good the moment they wake up!  Your group 
looked to be having more fun, despite lugging all your stuff, than those 
other guys with the numbers  support cars.  

dougP

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:42:19 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Trip happen.
 No need for ride recap because...
 Pictures proved that sometimes there are no need for words:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjF8yUYR

 -Manny Second Session Acosta


 On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:15:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people riding 
 their bikes really fast up a mountain. 
 Doing an overnighter somewhere over Diablo. Planning on heading out 
 from walnut creek bart around 6ish on Friday 
 and riding the most of the mountain to get to our campsite.

 Camping somewhere and riding the next day to check out the race. 
 Expect to bring food for that Friday's dinner, breakfast and lunch snacks 
 for that Saturday.

 Route could be similar to the new year's ride..
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/TvuBu8bc-R4/ozaqpT14Rv8J

 Which means it will be ruddy and steeply stupid at some sections. Knobs 
 for this ride wouldn't be a bad idea.

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[RBW] Re: That Pugsley

Not as versatile as the Pugsley or Moonlander, but I saw a guy with a new 
Elektra Straight 8 downtown yesterday.  He was happy with it and said he 
had completed a 30-mile on it.  

On Monday, May 20, 2013 9:29:33 AM UTC-5, doc wrote:

 I think Scott (Large Guy on a Bike) is riding a Pug these days, and has a 
 couple multi-day rides under his belt.

 On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:40:11 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special 
 ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is 
 thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long 
 Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 

 210 mm Q factor  shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and 
 report.

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Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley

2013-05-20 Thread Kellie Stapleton

Peter, I have had NO problems and going on the 3rd year.

On Monday, May 20, 2013 7:15:55 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Kellie,
  
 Is the Alfine 11 as sturdy as the 8 for mixed off road use? I have the 8 
 but heard the 11 was a bit more delicate, at least the first few runs. I 
 would much prefer something that sits in an oil bath rather than the 
 shimano mystery grease that stops mine from seizing. 


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 Patrick, one more. How could I  forget Coastkid. He lives on fat bikes 
 (Surly).  Also wonderful pix and vid on his blog.
 http://coastkid.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Eric

Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness tax 
may be a reality sooner than later.

Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers. 

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[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-20 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

It sounds like an even lower elevation Plan-B would be wise. There's 4ft of 
snow at the Lone Pine SNOTEL 
Stationhttp://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/site?sitenum=591state=waat 3930ft. 
The LP station is a couple hundred feet lower than and a few 
miles west from Babyshoe Pass. But the real clincher is that Babyshoe Pass 
is still snowed in. The ranger said her last report is about a week old, 
but the road became not drive-able about 10 miles before Babyshoe Pass. 

Back to the drawing boards...

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Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

2013-05-20 Thread clyde canter

Yep, makes perfect sense now. There are little bumps that would result in
what looks like a very small amount more room for the housing to be.
They work off of the housing, not the cable...DUH!. Thanks Shoji!
Still though it looks like a very small amount. Perhaps enough to pull a
stubborn noodle from its cradle.

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wrote:

Hi Clyde,
I think you turn the dial (red knob) to introduce slack in the housing.
Make sure you set up the brakes to permit slackening (?) for QR.

(This is the Tektro RL740 interrupter for v-brakes.)

good luck,
shoji

On Monday, May 20, 2013 10:53:36 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 10:38 -0400, clyde canter wrote:
Ok, just received a pair in the mail. like these:
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Re: [RBW] Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Tim McNamara

On May 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Eric wrote:
 
 Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness tax 
 may be a reality sooner than later.
 
 Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers. 


Not so much given that many of of the items that Rivendell sells- and in many 
cases, even equivalent alternatives- is not readily available in most bike 
shops.

I buy over the internet to find items that I can't get locally or at least 
can't get conveniently from a local supplier.  Occasionally I buy over the 
internet due to price but if shipping, handling (and now sales tax) is close to 
what I'd pay locally, then I buy locally.  I get it faster, I can see it before 
I buy it, and I value my relationships with local businesses.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Peter Morgano

Isnt the current policy if the business has a footprint in your state you
pay taxes? I live in NY and pay taxes on all internet sales, but I think we
have such a fairness law already. Nothing fair about getting taxed more
and more and getting less and less, IMO.


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 On May 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Eric wrote:
 
  Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.
 
  Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers.


 Not so much given that many of of the items that Rivendell sells- and in
 many cases, even equivalent alternatives- is not readily available in most
 bike shops.

 I buy over the internet to find items that I can't get locally or at least
 can't get conveniently from a local supplier.  Occasionally I buy over the
 internet due to price but if shipping, handling (and now sales tax) is
 close to what I'd pay locally, then I buy locally.  I get it faster, I can
 see it before I buy it, and I value my relationships with local businesses.

 Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Freedom of the Bicycle

2013-05-20 Thread Jeremy Till

Patrick M., that passage is wonderful.  Who is the author and what work is 
it from?

When I was a child, I was fascinated by aircraft and flying.  For me, it 
held the promise of of a type of movement--soaring, skimming, 
swooping--that held allure for me.  Its pull was strong enough that I 
pursued flying lessons from a young age, eventually earning my pilot's 
license just before my 18th birthday.  Along the way, I discovered that 
flying didn't feel like what I expected it to.  The sensations were totally 
different, sometimes noisy and overwhelming.  

Around the same age that I was earning my pilot's license, I was 
discovering cycling, and the truth is that nothing has come closer, for me, 
to the feeling of flying that I sought as a child.  Riding along under your 
own power, balanced on two cushions of air, really is something magical.  
Cycling has held its own challenges, and sometimes I struggle with 
gracefulness, but it's that feeling of flying that keeps me coming back.  

On Monday, May 20, 2013 5:22:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

  Talking About Bicycles

 Talking about bicycles, said my friend, I have been through the four 
 ages. I can remember a time in early childhood when a bicycle meant nothing 
 to me: it was just part of the huge meaningless background of grown-up 
 gadgets against which life went on. Then came a time when to have a 
 bicycle, and to have learned to ride it, and to be at last spinning along 
 on one's own, early in the morning, under trees, in and out of the shadows, 
 was like entering Paradise. That apparently effortless and frictionless 
 gliding--more like swimming than any other motion, but really most like the 
 discovery of a fifth element--that seemed to have solved the secret of 
 life. Now one would begin to be happy. But, of course, I soon reached the 
 third period. Pedalling to and fro from school (it was one of those 
 journeys that feel up-hill both ways) in all weathers, soon revealed the 
 prose of cycling. The bicycle, itself, became to me what his oar is to a 
 galley slave.

 But what was the fourth age? I asked.

 I am in it now, or rather I am frequently in it. I have had to go back to 
 cycling lately now that there's no car. And the jobs I use it for are often 
 dull enough. But again and again the mere fact of riding brings back a 
 delicious whiff of memory. I recover the feelings of the second age. What's 
 more, I see how true they were--how philosophical, even. For it really is a 
 remarkably pleasant motion. To be sure, it is not a recipe for happiness as 
 I then thought. In that sense the second age was a mirage. But a mirage of 
 something.

 How do you mean?, said I.

 I mean this. Whether there is, or whether there is not, in this world or 
 in any other, the kind of happiness which one's first experiences of 
 cycling seemed to promise, still, on any view, it is something to have had 
 the idea of it. The value of the thing promised remains even if that 
 particular promise was false--even if all possible promises of it are 
 false.

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 I think cycling is the closet feeling humans get to being a bird - a 
 sense of flying.  I love to hear the sound of the tires rolling along and 
 to know that any momentum is from personal effort and balance.  It must be 
 good for the soul as much as the brain.

 Ian A.

 On Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:22:01 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Today is a hard brain day. Yet I was able to hop on the bike and 
 slowly peddle my way to the falls a mile and a half away and 300 feet up. 
 My brain did a wee bit better after that excursion, and hopefully it helped 
 me recover some, so that tomorrow will be better than hard for my brain.

 The bike is an amazing gift of freedom. Thanks Grant and company!
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-20 Thread William

DOMO!

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:42:19 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Trip happen.
 No need for ride recap because...
 Pictures proved that sometimes there are no need for words:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjF8yUYR

 -Manny Second Session Acosta


 On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:15:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people riding 
 their bikes really fast up a mountain. 
 Doing an overnighter somewhere over Diablo. Planning on heading out 
 from walnut creek bart around 6ish on Friday 
 and riding the most of the mountain to get to our campsite.

 Camping somewhere and riding the next day to check out the race. 
 Expect to bring food for that Friday's dinner, breakfast and lunch snacks 
 for that Saturday.

 Route could be similar to the new year's ride..
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/TvuBu8bc-R4/ozaqpT14Rv8J

 Which means it will be ruddy and steeply stupid at some sections. Knobs 
 for this ride wouldn't be a bad idea.

 -Manny Acosta




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[RBW] Re: OT - Brewpub racer on the cheap - first summer ride in San Antonio



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5040003.jpg

Forgot to mention a pretty part - the Campy Triomphe friction shifters - 
NOS at Boulder bikes for $22

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[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-20 Thread Mike

A lot of the prime routes in Gifford might not be doable at this time. Last 
year the passes didn't open until July.

--mike

On Monday, May 20, 2013 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 It sounds like an even lower elevation Plan-B would be wise. There's 4ft 
 of snow at the Lone Pine SNOTEL 
 Stationhttp://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/site?sitenum=591state=waat 
 3930ft. The LP station is a couple hundred feet lower than and a few 
 miles west from Babyshoe Pass. But the real clincher is that Babyshoe Pass 
 is still snowed in. The ranger said her last report is about a week old, 
 but the road became not drive-able about 10 miles before Babyshoe Pass. 

 Back to the drawing boards...

 --Smitty




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Re: [RBW] Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Norman R

It might be advantageous to order that frame sooner, rather than later.(One 
voice on each shoulder, want it and do I really need it?)
Norman

On Monday, May 20, 2013 1:20:43 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Isnt the current policy if the business has a footprint in your state 
 you pay taxes? I live in NY and pay taxes on all internet sales, but I 
 think we have such a fairness law already. Nothing fair about getting 
 taxed more and more and getting less and less, IMO. 


 On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Tim McNamara 
 tim...@bitstream.netjavascript:
  wrote:

 On May 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Eric wrote:
 
  Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness 
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.
 
  Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers.


 Not so much given that many of of the items that Rivendell sells- and in 
 many cases, even equivalent alternatives- is not readily available in most 
 bike shops.

 I buy over the internet to find items that I can't get locally or at 
 least can't get conveniently from a local supplier.  Occasionally I buy 
 over the internet due to price but if shipping, handling (and now sales 
 tax) is close to what I'd pay locally, then I buy locally.  I get it 
 faster, I can see it before I buy it, and I value my relationships with 
 local businesses.

 Tim

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[RBW] Re: OT - Brewpub racer on the cheap - first summer ride in San Antonio

2013-05-20 Thread WETH

Beautiful bike with a great build.  I hope you will have as much fun riding the 
bike as you appear to have had collecting parts and building it up.

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[RBW] Re: OT - Brewpub racer on the cheap - first summer ride in San Antonio

2013-05-20 Thread WETH

Beautiful bike with a great build.  I hope you will have as much fun riding the 
bike as you appear to have had collecting parts and building it up.

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Re: [RBW] Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Dan Abelson

I think a concern for a business of Rivendell's size would be the cost and
complexity of compliance. I think under the proposal State's are supposed
to provide the necessary software for free, but my guess is that things
won't be so simple.

Dan Abelson
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 Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.

 Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford RSE-22 F/F/HS with problems

2013-05-20 Thread Brian Campbell

What are the frames measurements?
 

On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:29:13 AM UTC-4, William R. wrote:

 Whoa! I'll say that crack looks structural! You said that you contacted a 
 frame builder. But did you contact THE frambuilder? Even if you are not the 
 original owner, Waterford may stand behind their product and give you a 
 more reasonable repair cost. I realize you may be past that point. Just a 
 FWIW thought.

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[RBW] Re: OT - Brewpub racer on the cheap - first summer ride in San Antonio

thanks - I also forgot to give credit.  
There was a nasty groove across the top tube through most of the lettering 
on one side.  It looked like a long deep scrape or maybe where it was 
repeatedly leaned in the same spot.  My daughter painted it with Humbrol 
enamel - the red base, white lettering, and yellow stripes, and it came out 
near-perfect

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5040006.jpg

previously, she had gold-tipped all the lugs on my Raleigh, and that came 
out beautiful

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP4150001.jpg

The Moser will likely be the bike I point into town most often


On Monday, May 20, 2013 1:37:59 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 Beautiful bike with a great build.  I hope you will have as much fun 
 riding the bike as you appear to have had collecting parts and building it 
 up.

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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Edwin W

In TN that would add 10% to all my Riv orders, something I probably will 
take into account.

While that might not be good news for Riv exporting its goods to others out 
of state, the recent USD/Yen exchange rate trend has got to be good news!
In mid 2007 a dollar bought 120 yen.
In late 2011 it only bought about 80, now it is up around 100 again 
good news for Riv buying anything from Japan.

Edwin

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[RBW] Cyclepedia PDX

2013-05-20 Thread velomann

For those in Portland, those who wish you were in Portland, and those who 
may be visiting this summer, The Portland Art Museum will be displaying a 
stunning bicycle collection from June 8 to September 8. Cyclepedia is the 
private collection of Vienna-based designer Michael Embacher. It's opening 
coincides with the 3-week extravaganza that is Pedalpalooza, so apart from 
this there's going to be lots of other bike stuff going on all ver the 
place. Multiple rides daily, bike fair, World Naked Bike Ride (sponsored by 
Portland Art Museum this year!), the list goes on. 
Cyclepedia isn't just a bunch of beautiful bikes on display. Many other 
bike related events and talks are scheduled at the museum. There's a 
corresponding book, and a pretty stunning (not free) iPad app. Details 
here: http://www.portlandartmuseum.org/special/cyclepedia/about
If you've been thinking about visiting Portland's bike culture, this would 
be the time to do it.

Mike

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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Hechmer

In Vt, I am legally liable for sales tax on equipment purchased on the 
internet or through catalogs.  When I do my income  taxes I comb through my 
CC statements, calculate the taxes due and pay them.  So, for me it might 
be easier.  As a general rule of thumb I try to do business locally 
whenever possible or the price differential is not great.  The outcome is 
that I have bought a lot of bike equipment from CA - Rivendell, Paul's, 
White Ind., Phil Wood,  Jetensha... but I mostly eat local foods.

Michael

On Monday, May 20, 2013 2:57:20 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 In TN that would add 10% to all my Riv orders, something I probably will 
 take into account.

 While that might not be good news for Riv exporting its goods to others 
 out of state, the recent USD/Yen exchange rate trend has got to be good 
 news!
 In mid 2007 a dollar bought 120 yen.
 In late 2011 it only bought about 80, now it is up around 100 again 
 good news for Riv buying anything from Japan.

 Edwin


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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread jpp

In most states I believe you are already supposed to do this.  It is just 
closing a loop hole that exists.  Sorry dudes but sales tax is just a 
reality and it was only a matter of time.

On Monday, May 20, 2013 12:42:45 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote:

 Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness 
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.

 Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers. 


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[RBW] Conversion to Albatros Bars... maybe

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Hechmer

I am thinking about how to help my wife get more comfortable on her single. 
 We have finally worked out all of the issues on the tandem but the 
solution for her single has eluded me.

She is 5'8  with a saddle height of 70 on a 1984 Specialized Sequoia  (I 
think we bought it  from someone on this list quite a few years ago),  She 
has long complained about pubic chafing and a variety of saddles hasn't 
solved the problem.  On the tandem we moved the saddle forward, and brought 
the bars as far back and high as possible and that seems to have helped a 
lot.  Lately she also mentioned neck strain after a two hour ride.  Oh, and 
we are both in our late 60s.

Her bike is 52x52, has just a fist full of seat post showing, a Technomix 
Delux stem (9 cm?) at the max line and noodle bars; silver BEs  a 7 spd 
freewheel. 46/36/24 rings.

Possible solutions: (1) Convert to upright bars, like the Albatros.  I have 
no experience with them.  How might it affect handling?  Would I use the 
same stem? (2) Buy the new Tallex stem and simply  raise the bar.  (3) Buy 
her a 55 cm Betty Foy and transfer everything except the brakes and wheels. 
 I think she would like a step through frame (but doesn't actually say so, 
other than it is easier to get on the tandem which has a steeply sloping 
TT) and the 55 would give her higher bars, but I can't figure out what the 
reach would be on that size Betty. I also think she would like tires wider 
than the 30s she now rides but has never mentioned it  (4) Spend the whole 
wad and buy her a Betty with Albatros bars; (5) win the custom frame 
giveaway at the end of May!

What has been your experience converting a bike from drop to Albatros?  Any 
thoughts on the other option appreciated.
Michael

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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Hiawatha Cyclery

In most/all states that have sales tax, you are supposed to report out of 
state purchases and pay taxes on them, as Michael H scrupulously does in 
VT. People who order out of state to avoid taxation are breaking the law, 
though enforcement is almost non-existent. I have had customers ask me for 
discounts to offset the tax they'd save (illegally) by ordering out of 
state - of course, that doesn't save me from having to pay the tax at the 
end of the month...

As a small operation that does some mail order, I don't care to file sales 
tax returns on every out of state sale. Compliance would be much less 
complicated if it was just a federal alternative sales tax. Let the IRS 
sort out which states get the $$$.



On Monday, May 20, 2013 2:42:40 PM UTC-5, jpp wrote:

 In most states I believe you are already supposed to do this.  It is just 
 closing a loop hole that exists.  Sorry dudes but sales tax is just a 
 reality and it was only a matter of time.

 On Monday, May 20, 2013 12:42:45 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote:

 Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness 
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.

 Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers. 



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Re: [RBW] Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Brewster Fong


On Monday, May 20, 2013 10:18:17 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: 

 On May 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Eric wrote: 
  
  Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness 
 tax may be a reality sooner than later. 
  
  Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers. 


 Not so much given that many of of the items that Rivendell sells- and in 
 many cases, even equivalent alternatives- is not readily available in most 
 bike shops. 

 I buy over the internet to find items that I can't get locally or at least 
 can't get conveniently from a local supplier.  Occasionally I buy over the 
 internet due to price but if shipping, handling (and now sales tax) is 
 close to what I'd pay locally, then I buy locally.  I get it faster, I can 
 see it before I buy it, and I value my relationships with local businesses. 

 
Agree, I recently was looking for a new bar and stem. I really like my 44cm 
Nitto Noodle bar (model 177) and decided to find one. I looked online and 
saw the price ranged from $53 to $105 (athough the latter price was for the 
larger 48cm). Riv sells them for $73. I then walked into a LBS I hadn't 
been in for a long time and guess what, they had the noodle bar for $65!  
It was the last one, but they said no problem ordering more if it got sold. 
No brainer, I bought it!  I was also looking for a IRD satin stem (nice 
polished silver stem) which sells for about $44 on IRD's website. The LBS 
sold the same stem for $40!  Duh, another no brainer, just need to decide 
between a 7 or 17 degree rise! Good Luck!


 Tim

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[RBW] Re: Conversion to Albatros Bars... maybe

2013-05-20 Thread doc

If the top tube has her stretched out and she's complaining of neck pain, 
chances are that the Alba's will help.  The position is naturally further 
back and more upright, so weight gets transferred as well.  Typically, 
you're going to need a longer stem to get the bars a little bit forward.  I 
wouldn't get too pre-occupied with all of the potential hand positions, 
rather, just focus on her comfort sitting upright with hands on the grips.  
A mixte that can take cushy tires with an upright position and possibly a 
sprung Brooks sounds like a real nice bike for her.  It'd be great if you 
could find something similar for her to toodle about and see how she likes 
it.

On Monday, May 20, 2013 3:45:16 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I am thinking about how to help my wife get more comfortable on her 
 single.  We have finally worked out all of the issues on the tandem but the 
 solution for her single has eluded me. 

 She is 5'8  with a saddle height of 70 on a 1984 Specialized Sequoia  (I 
 think we bought it  from someone on this list quite a few years ago),  She 
 has long complained about pubic chafing and a variety of saddles hasn't 
 solved the problem.  On the tandem we moved the saddle forward, and brought 
 the bars as far back and high as possible and that seems to have helped a 
 lot.  Lately she also mentioned neck strain after a two hour ride.  Oh, and 
 we are both in our late 60s.

 Her bike is 52x52, has just a fist full of seat post showing, a Technomix 
 Delux stem (9 cm?) at the max line and noodle bars; silver BEs  a 7 spd 
 freewheel. 46/36/24 rings.

 Possible solutions: (1) Convert to upright bars, like the Albatros.  I 
 have no experience with them.  How might it affect handling?  Would I use 
 the same stem? (2) Buy the new Tallex stem and simply  raise the bar.  (3) 
 Buy her a 55 cm Betty Foy and transfer everything except the brakes and 
 wheels.  I think she would like a step through frame (but doesn't actually 
 say so, other than it is easier to get on the tandem which has a steeply 
 sloping TT) and the 55 would give her higher bars, but I can't figure out 
 what the reach would be on that size Betty. I also think she would like 
 tires wider than the 30s she now rides but has never mentioned it  (4) 
 Spend the whole wad and buy her a Betty with Albatros bars; (5) win the 
 custom frame giveaway at the end of May!

 What has been your experience converting a bike from drop to Albatros? 
  Any thoughts on the other option appreciated.
 Michael


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[RBW] Re: Conversion to Albatros Bars... maybe

2013-05-20 Thread Garth


Try some Alba bars, a VO threadless stem adapter, and some +/- 6 degree-ish 
threadless stems from ebay.  I suggest this as this will allow you to play 
with various heights and reaches before you buy another Tallux stem. . Or, 
just keep the VO adapter and threadless stem combo. I am done with the 
hassle of the old school quills .  You're gonna need new cables and housing 
too, so set the bars as high as she *might* want them, then cut the cables. 
Do a test ride. You can always trim them later, but not add to them !!  


The Alba bar handles just as well if not better than drops for me. Drop 
bars were fine back in the day  but for many if not most people they 
are unnecessary . The perceived aerodynamics of being lower and the truth 
of a wind tunnel can be surprisingly different !   


THE most important factor of course ... in ALL of This . is Having FUN 
!   Alba bars are Fun  Waaay fun !!   So much so , she'll say .. wow 
,what was I thinking using drop bars ?  with a big smile on her face 
:) 

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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread tdusky

States need money, you should see the roads here in Michigan.
I need to sell my custom because I can only fit 27mm tires with fenders.
Tom Dusky
Huntington Woods, MI

On Monday, May 20, 2013 12:42:45 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote:

 Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness 
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.

 Your thoughts on such  effect on the house of Rivendell  customers. 


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[RBW] Re: Conversion to Albatros Bars... maybe

2013-05-20 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Hi Mike,
Since your wife is comfortable on the tandem, can you replicate the stoker 
position on the Specialized? What about using the same saddle and seatpost? 
What does her hand position/reach look like on the tandem?

I do love my albatross handlebars, but I think winning the raffle is the 
way to go. :)

shoji 

On Monday, May 20, 2013 4:08:58 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:


 Try some Alba bars, a VO threadless stem adapter, and some +/- 6 
 degree-ish threadless stems from ebay.  I suggest this as this will allow 
 you to play with various heights and reaches before you buy another Tallux 
 stem. . Or, just keep the VO adapter and threadless stem combo. I am done 
 with the hassle of the old school quills .  You're gonna need new cables 
 and housing too, so set the bars as high as she *might* want them, then 
 cut the cables. Do a test ride. You can always trim them later, but not add 
 to them !!  


 The Alba bar handles just as well if not better than drops for me. Drop 
 bars were fine back in the day  but for many if not most people they 
 are unnecessary . The perceived aerodynamics of being lower and the truth 
 of a wind tunnel can be surprisingly different !   


 THE most important factor of course ... in ALL of This . is Having FUN 
 !   Alba bars are Fun  Waaay fun !!   So much so , she'll say .. wow 
 ,what was I thinking using drop bars ?  with a big smile on her face 
 :) 


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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Nick Worthington

I'd have to find the actual legislation, and check, but I believe there is 
a threshold annual sales amount.  Smaller businesses, I think it was below 
a million in annual sales, are supposed to be exempt.

Nick W. 

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 Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a fairness 
 tax may be a reality sooner than later.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Freedom of the Bicycle

The essay is from Present Concerns which (I think) is a collection of
essays. The photo shows Lewis and his older brother, doubtless near Belfast
and probably circa 1908 -1910 (Lewis was born in 1898). Too bd the photo
isn't in color, as Lewis as a boy thought that Ireland was so much greener
than dry, barren England.

I copied the essay from a blog that came up from the Google search I did
for the essay -- I'd read it years before but forgot its source, and Dn.
Patrick's remarks reminded me.

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Re: [RBW] OT - Brewpub racer on the cheap - first summer ride in San Antonio

Ron -- A real classic, IMO -- good job. Glad the wheels fit the project
well.

FWIW, Stan's seems to be helping with the Parigi Roubaix -- no flats since
installation.

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Been working on a bike project the past month, and had some great help
 from Patrick Moore - he donated the wheels.  Finished Saturday and took a
 maiden voyage to the brewpub on Sunday.  The frame - lightweight lugged
 steel made by Francesco Moser in my size  (64 cm)  - won as a lowball snipe
 on ebay.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP4290009.jpg

 Frame came with a Campy Mirage bottom bracket and a needle bearing
 headset, though that stem and I won't get along.  Built from Dedacciai Zero
 Tre triple butted Cr-Mo tubing - the spec'ed frame weighs 4 lbs. and the
 graphics identify this bike as late 90s.

 I have the moustache cockpit on my old Raleigh dialed in perfectly, so I
 started with a sitbone to hood measurement, planning to duplicate it in the
 top hood position on the Moser.  Went with Cinelli 64 bars, 10 cm Nitto
 Deluxe (long Pearl) stem, with 80mm of quill showing.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5060002.jpg

 I was hoping to re-use whatever parts I had around and made do with my
 rebuilt Shimano 600 EX rear derailleur (the VO red pullies made a cool
 touch).  I had the new Dia Compe brake levers in a parts box.  Front
 derailleur is a used Campy Daytona for $17 on ebay.  But I was also hoping
 to re-use a really nice Sugino Nuovo-Record-clone crankset, but Q was too
 low, and it would rub the chainstay.  So I went shopping on ebay again.  I
 discovered that even though BIN prices are crazy, naughties-era Campy parts
 sell cheap in auction.  Seems everybody wants the latest skeleton 11-speed
 et. al.  and 10-speed or older goes cheap.  I paid $100 for a NOS Centaur
 crankset and even happier, these beautiful Chorus dual pivot brakes removed
 from a floor bike for $70  Since Patrick gave me the nice wheels on really
 nice hubs, I sprung for the good Challenge Parigi-Robaix 27mm tubulars
 (hoping I have better luck with these than he's having with the clinchers)


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5110001-1.jpg


 Already a fan of the Thomson Elite seatpost on my other bike, I went with
 the lighter Masterpiece for this one, and the Selle Titanico X saddle.
  Jury is still out on the Selle waterproof white leather bar tape - it has
 square sharp edges, but isn't a real problem with padded gloves.  The
 saddle - most invisible saddle I've ever ridden, but not without a hitch...


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5110001.jpg

 My old KKT pedals with Cinelli alloy clips and Ale yellow straps.  Last
 piece to come in was a Zenith 8-speed freewheel from SJS in the UK.  13 to
 24 - on the 39T front chainring, my 8 gears are 43 to 80 inches, with a 5
 spread between gears - all very useful.  I'll let you know how the
 freewheel holds up...  Chain is the 9-speed hollow-pin SRAM, good buy at
 Outside Outfitters, but they just beat the UK shipping by only 2 days -
 they are very slow.  The crowning touch are my straight lever Campy Grand
 Sport QR skewers.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190022.jpg

 I'm in for $650 and ready for the maiden ride.  A minimalist tool kit in a
 Randi Jo bar bag.  I already hate the bar-end bell - it rattles and was the
 first thing to come off.  Have to come up with a new bell bell plan.  Any
 recommendations on a small bell?


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190002.jpg

 There's a 12-block zone south of my buddy's house that you're taking your
 life into your hands, and since I had to haul my bike in the truck anyway,
 we hauled both bikes to Breckenridge park and rode into downtown from
 there.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190021.jpg

 We first rode north to the bike shop (Bike World) but found they didn't
 open until noon, so back down Broadway to S. Alamo and Blue Star - there
 the bike shop was open and it was a good thing.  My saddle had stretched so
 much in the first 8 miles that it spread over the adjusting bolt


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190007.jpg

 My buddy bought the pump he wanted, the gentleman at the Blue Star bike
 shop would not let me work on my bike - he fixed it right up for me,.  On
 to the Mission trail.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190008.jpg

 The Mission trail is a nice ride, 8 miles from Blue Star south along the
 San Antonio River to Espada park.  You have the option to stop and tour the
 missions, which makes for a great family outing
 http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/hikebike.htm  Of course that also
 means family traffic on

Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

No, I have the same interrupters on the Fargo and the red knobs don't take
up housing slack; that's the job of the (more standard) black knobs where
the housing meets the brake body.

So, once again, all together now: what *are* those red knobs for? I've been
weeping in anguish over this question for a year or more now.

Patrick please help us!! Moore, who is finding the Fargo a wonderful dirt
road bike with the B136 bar -- just btw.

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Shoji Takahashi
shoji.takaha...@gmail.comwrote:

Hi Clyde,
I think you turn the dial (red knob) to introduce slack in the housing.
Make sure you set up the brakes to permit slackening (?) for QR.

(This is the Tektro RL740 interrupter for v-brakes.)

good luck,
shoji

On Monday, May 20, 2013 10:53:36 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

http://resumespecialties.com/index.html
patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com

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Re: [RBW] OT - Brewpub racer on the cheap - first summer ride in San Antonio

Patrick, I already had some on order...though it hasn't arrived as of 
today.  I mostly rode pavement, yesterday, but did ride a few blocks of 
gravel on side streets in repair, and some on the paths, and no problems. 
 I always brush-shop-vac the tires when I get home for keeping the bike 
indoors.  I inspected and found no little cuts that would give me 
goatheads.  

On Monday, May 20, 2013 3:43:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Ron -- A real classic, IMO -- good job. Glad the wheels fit the project 
 well. 

 FWIW, Stan's seems to be helping with the Parigi Roubaix -- no flats since 
 installation.


  

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[RBW] Re: Conversion to Albatros Bars... maybe

2013-05-20 Thread Bryan

I'd just go with the Betty with some Albas. From what I understand, those 
1980s Sequoias had some really steep seat tube angles, so getting that 
thing comfortable in a non-racey sort of way may never happen. The Betty 
will allow her to sit up and rotate everything back which will help with 
the neck pain and possibly with the chafing as well. 

Bryan  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Tim McNamara

Seems to me the simple thing is that sales tax is paid to the state where the 
sale is rung up- if I buy from Riv, I pay CA sales tax.  If I buy from Jim, I 
pay MN sales tax, etc.

Tim

On May 20, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Hiawatha Cyclery hiawathacycl...@gmail.com wrote:

 As a small operation that does some mail order, I don't care to file sales 
 tax returns on every out of state sale. Compliance would be much less 
 complicated if it was just a federal alternative sales tax. Let the IRS sort 
 out which states get the $$

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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

I can see this thread getting political very fast, but paying sales tax in 
the state where you purchase but don't live (counts as interstate commerce) 
is unconstitutional.  Keeping up with sales tax for other states is an 
unfair burden on a vendor, making fair tax an oxymoron.  I believe the size 
of internet commerce, though, will take us eventually to a federal 
VAT/sales tax, which is probably the most fair tax since it is based on 
consumption.  That doesn't mean expect them to give up other existing taxes 
in return - it just doesn't work that way.  

On Monday, May 20, 2013 5:04:01 PM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:

 Seems to me the simple thing is that sales tax is paid to the state where 
 the sale is rung up- if I buy from Riv, I pay CA sales tax.  If I buy from 
 Jim, I pay MN sales tax, etc. 

 Tim 

 On May 20, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Hiawatha Cyclery 
 hiawath...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 

  As a small operation that does some mail order, I don't care to file 
 sales tax returns on every out of state sale. Compliance would be much less 
 complicated if it was just a federal alternative sales tax. Let the IRS 
 sort out which states get the $$ 


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[RBW] FS: Silver Hupe

2013-05-20 Thread dougP

The Silver Hupe is a saddlebag support that Rivendell had a few years 
back.  It mounts on the seat stays without tools.  See the video: 

http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=23.  

I picked this up from another list member but don't use it anymore as I 
generally have a rack on the Atlantis.  $15 plus postage of $7 for a total 
of $22.  Contact offlist

dougP

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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Jan Heine

True story:

Customer walked into local bike shop. Looked at a wheelset from a local 
distributor (Seattle Bike Supply). Decided to buy the same wheelset from a 
mail-order shop in Florida. The price is the same, but customer doesn't pay 
sales tax, and shipping is free on orders over a certain threshold. So the 
wheelset was shipped to Florida, then returned to Seattle, all to evade 
some taxes.

Whether you are for or against taxes, it makes sense to apply them the same 
across the board. Small businesses like Compass Bicycles will be exempt. 
Rivendell, with 15 employees, isn't that small any longer. In theory, this 
gives small businesses an unfair advantage. A national sales tax that would 
be paid by everybody would solve that problem, but that's not feasible for 
other reasons. (That said, economies of scale are such that big companies 
don't have to worry about us small ones having unfair advantages.)

There will be software to allow for compliance. Compare this to a bulk 
mailing, where you have to sort your mail based on the U.S. Postal 
Service's ever-changing routing arrangements. For $ 30/year, you can get 
simple software that does the sorting all for you. The price includes 
updates every few months... just like you would need because some 
municipality has decided to buy another ambulance and increased their sales 
tax by 0.1%.

Jan Heine
Compass Bicycles Ltd.
http://www.compasscycle.com

Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Kelly

When I ran a business in Missouri as in most states we didn't pay or charge 
sales tax for out of state purchases.
I love wording fair tax NOT... and most sincerely don't see this as the Feds 
business.  

Compliance would be easy as most accounting systems already have multiple tax 
fields available.

Individual states are capable handling this on there own! 

My opinion only

Kelly

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[RBW] Portland Country Ride

2013-05-20 Thread Allan in Portland

Hey all,

A buddy is getting married this summer so for a bachelor's party we did a 
S36O to Vernonia for karaoke. The last time I did that ride was 9 or 10 
years ago. Then the Banks-Vernonia trail was 3 miles of broken asphalt 
overgrown with so many blackberries as to be unrideable. Now, it is 30 
miles of new pavement. I'd read about it many times, but hadn't actually 
ridden the new version for myself until this weekend. For the return there 
are old timber roads connecting Vernonia with Scappose, so another 30 miles 
of off-highway riding. All in all, a spectacular and long overdue weekend.

I, personally, didn't bring a camera, but there is proof it happened:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikeportland/8757055994/in/set-72157633524674463/

There's Riv activewear, but alas no bikes this time. There is a Waterford. 
And a Miyata. And maybe a Japanese Schwinn, not an expert on them myself.

Cheers  Happy Summer Camping,
-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?



 Quite frankly I am surprised you don't have to pay  pay for site 
 usages/timed periods of use on internet state/federal fees, etc.

 
They get you coming and going these days. 

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[RBW] Re: Conversion to Albatros Bars... maybe



 Call Rivendell or consult the geo charts for the TT length on the Betty.

 
I am 5'8, 44 year old male,  71 seat height, 82 pbh and the Sam is long for 
me at 56.5 TT. I need a 6cm stem for drops and staches. I will probably use 
my 8cm Tallux with shim for Albatrii when I get them. Seems like I have to 
go shorter than rivrecommendations for stem extensions.
 
Of course I am not the same dimensions as the wife, but just threw in my 
reach info for thought since we are same height. Women usually have shorter 
reaches than men I hear.

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[RBW] Re: FS

All prices shipped CONUS. Am willing to ship outside CONUS but at actual
shipping cost.

1. Silver Shimano PD M324 pedals, VG, $30 shipped.
2. Surley Dingle Cog, 17/20, new, $18 shipped.
3. Surly 22 t cog, 3/32, new, $13 shipped.
4. Easton 1 1/8 threadless stem, 110 mm, 10*, $16 shipped.
5. Sugino 46 t ring (from X2D crankset), several hundred miles but no
hooks, $14 shipped.
6. Sugino 36 t ring, ditto, $12 shipped.
7. Look Keo Plus pedals, ~1,200 miles, grey, with cleats, $25 shipped.

I have a small box full of old slotted cleats, mostly two bolt, some
requiring nails, many unused, plastic and metal. How about $25 shipped for
all, CONUS.

Offers welcome. ISO:

17/19 Dingle cogs
9 speed chains
17 t 3/32 fixed cogs, not stamped, please
SPD cleats, new



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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Tim McNamara

There is nothing unconstitutional about paying sales tax in a state where you 
make a purchase but do not live.  It happens tens of- or more likely hundreds 
of millions of- times a year.  If you physically make a purchase in the state 
of California, you will pay California income tax even if you are a Minnesota 
resident like me.  When I am in Wisconsin or Illinois to see family and 
friends, I pay sales tax to those states on every purchase.  If I attempted to 
argue that the retailers were violating the Constitution by charging me sales 
tax as a non-resident, much hilarity would ensue.  IMHO if I buy from Rivendell 
via their web site or by phone or mail order, I am making a purchase in 
California even though I am sitting on my sofa in St. Paul.  

It is simply how you define where the purchase is taking place:  is it where 
the buyer is located or where the seller is located?  There are four components 
to such transactions:  the buyer, the seller, the good or service being sold 
and the point of exchange of money.  When I buy something from Rivendell, three 
of those components are in Walnut Creek- the only component not there is me.  
There is no particular logical reason to base the application of sales tax 
exclusively on the location of the buyer- especially since sales tax is 
remitted by the seller, not the buyer.  Through lobbying and the like, mail 
order retailers got themselves a tax loophole years ago and sooner or later 
that will go away.  The only practical solution is for sellers to remit sales 
tax on all sales to their own states, because the accounting burden of 
remitting tax to potentially 50 states and perhaps territories would be 
enormous.

There is a slightly deeper question about sales tax:  who is being taxed?  The 
seller or the buyer?  While the tax is passed on to the customer in an itemized 
fashion, the tax is actually paid to the state by the retailer.  IMHO there is 
no logical reason for Rivendell to have to cut a check to Minnesota for 
purchases I make; their sales tax should be paid to California.

Years back when I was in France for a tour and then the next year for PBP, I 
noticed that their sales tax was invisibly included in the self price of items, 
which made it easier to predict the tab at the checkout.


Tim



On May 20, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can see this thread getting political very fast, but paying sales tax in 
 the state where you purchase but don't live (counts as interstate commerce) 
 is unconstitutional.  Keeping up with sales tax for other states is an unfair 
 burden on a vendor, making fair tax an oxymoron.  I believe the size of 
 internet commerce, though, will take us eventually to a federal VAT/sales 
 tax, which is probably the most fair tax since it is based on consumption.  
 That doesn't mean expect them to give up other existing taxes in return - it 
 just doesn't work that way.  
 
 On Monday, May 20, 2013 5:04:01 PM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:
 
 Seems to me the simple thing is that sales tax is paid to the state where 
 the sale is rung up- if I buy from Riv, I pay CA sales tax.  If I buy from 
 Jim, I pay MN sales tax, etc. 
 
 Tim 
 
 On May 20, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Hiawatha Cyclery hiawath...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
  As a small operation that does some mail order, I don't care to file sales 
  tax returns on every out of state sale. Compliance would be much less 
  complicated if it was just a federal alternative sales tax. Let the IRS 
  sort out which states get the $$ 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Anne Paulson

I agree with what you say, as far as it goes. If someone comes from another
state to California, walks into Rivendell and buys one of those very fine
pink possum hats, they pay California sales tax. So then if they go home
and decide they want another possum hat, and they call up Rivendell to buy
it, why not pay that same California tax? We know where Rivendell is. It's
right in Walnut Creek, in California.

But what about web-only stores? Where is Amazon? It's not anywhere, really.
So where would they pay tax? The problem with online retailers not charging
sales tax is more a problem of Amazon than of Rivendell.


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:

 There is nothing unconstitutional about paying sales tax in a state where
 you make a purchase but do not live.  It happens tens of- or more likely
 hundreds of millions of- times a year.  If you physically make a purchase
 in the state of California, you will pay California income tax even if you
 are a Minnesota resident like me.  When I am in Wisconsin or Illinois to
 see family and friends, I pay sales tax to those states on every purchase.
  If I attempted to argue that the retailers were violating the Constitution
 by charging me sales tax as a non-resident, much hilarity would ensue.
  IMHO if I buy from Rivendell via their web site or by phone or mail order,
 I am making a purchase in California even though I am sitting on my sofa in
 St. Paul.




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[RBW] NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

Finally  a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.
Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap.
 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm

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Re: [RBW] NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

Those are my favorites.

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 Finally  a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.
 Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap.

 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm

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Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Cyclofiend

As this thread began vaguely off topic, and is now verging into much  
broader specifics, perhaps it's time to let it end.


Our discussion is unlikely to change any pending regulation, and as  
they say, it will be what it is.


Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

Very nice cage.  Similar cages are the Nitto Racer and the V-O Moderniste. 
 Price is right on the King version - a fraction of the Nitto.  

On Monday, May 20, 2013 8:08:56 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Finally  a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.
 Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap.
  
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm


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[RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-05-20 Thread Brewster Fong



On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:27:50 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 Very nice cage.  Similar cages are the Nitto Racer and the V-O Moderniste. 
  Price is right on the King version - a fraction of the Nitto.  


Agree, I've been using the standard King cages for many, many years. At 
about $18 each, its a bargain. And, if you really *need* a ti cage, King 
makes those too, albeit at Nitto prices:

 http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html

Good Luck!


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 Finally  a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.
 Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap.
  
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm



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Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

And, from my experience with Nittos and VOs, the Kings are much sturdier
and hold bottles better.

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Very nice cage. Similar cages are the Nitto Racer and the V-O Moderniste.
Price is right on the King version - a fraction of the Nitto.

On Monday, May 20, 2013 8:08:56 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

Finally a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.
Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap.

http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/wb7iris.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm

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[RBW] ISO Surly 17/19 t Dingle, vg to new condition

Anyone, before I have to splurge at the one place I've found on the web
that has them?

Who carries them beside Bikeman?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-05-20 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 19:37 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 And, from my experience with Nittos and VOs, the Kings are much
 sturdier and hold bottles better.

Especially if you want to overload the cages with extremely large, heavy
stainless steel bottles.  Also, the King Iris is by far the best cage
for the third position, underneath the down tube.



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Re: [RBW] ISO Surly 17/19 t Dingle, vg to new condition

2013-05-20 Thread John Blish

They come from QBP as do all things Surly. Any shop that does business
with QBP can order one for you.

Or grabitoffaAmazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Surly-Dingle-Dual-Fixed-Gear/dp/B001GSKVKY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1369101435sr=8-3keywords=surly+dingle

-jb

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Anyone, before I have to splurge at the one place I've found on the web
that has them?

Who carries them beside Bikeman?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

2013-05-20 Thread Philip Williamson

Are the red knobs some sort of reach adjuster? That maybe gives the _lever_ 
more slack?

Just guessing,
Philip 

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Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

They don't work like that for me.

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 Are the red knobs some sort of reach adjuster? That maybe gives the
 _lever_ more slack?

 Just guessing,
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