[RBW] Re: Keven/Vince style thumbshifters
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Re: [RBW] Re: Keven/Vince style thumbshifters
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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
cons for me: narrower than a B17 standard, hard as a rock and stubborn break in pros: easily replacable top cover, seems well made Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/533bfb358fb017b355ff9st04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
My buddy loves them, but when he outfitted their tandem with matching Bertoud saddles, his wife balked, and he had to go back and change his color scheme. They generally run narrower, and are definitely flatter across the top - they don't have that characteristic Brooks sag. Before you spring for one, you might want to look at Rivet saddles - a bit less expensive and more width options. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:07:09 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I used Berthoud saddles from when first available before switching to Brooks Cambium last Fall. The design of the saddle is different from the B-17. Not only thicker, but as others note somewhat more narrow. The top is flatter as well. For me the best Berthoud set up was horizontal to the ground. Angling the front end up as many prefer for the B-17 is uncomfortable with the Berthoud. Once I had it set up properly, I found it a very comfortable saddle with almost no break in. It was equally comfortable for me on my daily bike with upright handle bars as on my road bike with drops. I was equally happy with it commuting, on weekend pleasure / distance rides and on several tours. Berthoud is very durable as well. Mine has at least 8k miles on it (I really do not keep track of mileage that may be more). I treated it once a year with the wax that comes with a new purchase. Did not need to tighten it until late last Summer, just before I got my second Cambium. The rear strap attachments are easy to use. It also has a Kickflix (sp?) attachment if you own any of the bags that use that set up. As for the Cambium, I have been pleasantly surprised that set up and feel is far more Berthoud like than traditional Brooks. So far the road and commuter Cambiums are holding up very well. We'll have to see if they are as durable as the Berthoud. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:07:09 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
the main reason you angle up a Brooks saddle is because of the sag that is designed into it. That is how gravity puts your sit bones on target. With a Brooks saddle flat, you're falling forward the whole time. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 7:42:14 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: I used Berthoud saddles from when first available before switching to Brooks Cambium last Fall. The design of the saddle is different from the B-17. Not only thicker, but as others note somewhat more narrow. The top is flatter as well. For me the best Berthoud set up was horizontal to the ground. Angling the front end up as many prefer for the B-17 is uncomfortable with the Berthoud. Once I had it set up properly, I found it a very comfortable saddle with almost no break in. It was equally comfortable for me on my daily bike with upright handle bars as on my road bike with drops. I was equally happy with it commuting, on weekend pleasure / distance rides and on several tours. Berthoud is very durable as well. Mine has at least 8k miles on it (I really do not keep track of mileage that may be more). I treated it once a year with the wax that comes with a new purchase. Did not need to tighten it until late last Summer, just before I got my second Cambium. The rear strap attachments are easy to use. It also has a Kickflix (sp?) attachment if you own any of the bags that use that set up. As for the Cambium, I have been pleasantly surprised that set up and feel is far more Berthoud like than traditional Brooks. So far the road and commuter Cambiums are holding up very well. We'll have to see if they are as durable as the Berthoud. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:07:09 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
i have a berthoud on my QB, and overall i'm happy with it. as others mention it is narrower, they are rock hard (you think brooks are hard? HA!) and even after 2 years of riding mine is still really hard. personally i have one because i wanted something different from brooks (i've ridden a B17 for 10+ years), for me the berthoud does not do anything 'better' then a b17, and you can argue it's worst since it's not as comfortable (for me). sorry i don't mean to sound like i'm against berthoud, i like what the do (have a few of their bags), and the quality, build of the saddle is nice, no problems there. but they are not a direct replacement for a brooks. to be fair i know some folks really like the stiffness of the berthouds, typically those are the people that complain that brooks feel like hammocks. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:07:09 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I've tried to make this point on a couple of threads and a couple of forums. Many people try to attribute others' choices to taste, but in the end (pun intended) the choices are based on function - what works for some is not going to work for others. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:44:31 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: i have a berthoud on my QB, and overall i'm happy with it. as others mention it is narrower, they are rock hard (you think brooks are hard? HA!) and even after 2 years of riding mine is still really hard. personally i have one because i wanted something different from brooks (i've ridden a B17 for 10+ years), for me the berthoud does not do anything 'better' then a b17, and you can argue it's worst since it's not as comfortable (for me). sorry i don't mean to sound like i'm against berthoud, i like what the do (have a few of their bags), and the quality, build of the saddle is nice, no problems there. but they are not a direct replacement for a brooks. to be fair i know some folks really like the stiffness of the berthouds, typically those are the people that complain that brooks feel like hammocks. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:07:09 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
Neglected to point out that I am somewhat below average weight for my height - 6' 160#s and have a fairly slender frame. Larger bodied people may have different reaction to the Berthoud (which presumably is designed with French people in mind). On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 7:42:14 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: I used Berthoud saddles from when first available before switching to Brooks Cambium last Fall. The design of the saddle is different from the B-17. Not only thicker, but as others note somewhat more narrow. The top is flatter as well. For me the best Berthoud set up was horizontal to the ground. Angling the front end up as many prefer for the B-17 is uncomfortable with the Berthoud. Once I had it set up properly, I found it a very comfortable saddle with almost no break in. It was equally comfortable for me on my daily bike with upright handle bars as on my road bike with drops. I was equally happy with it commuting, on weekend pleasure / distance rides and on several tours. Berthoud is very durable as well. Mine has at least 8k miles on it (I really do not keep track of mileage that may be more). I treated it once a year with the wax that comes with a new purchase. Did not need to tighten it until late last Summer, just before I got my second Cambium. The rear strap attachments are easy to use. It also has a Kickflix (sp?) attachment if you own any of the bags that use that set up. As for the Cambium, I have been pleasantly surprised that set up and feel is far more Berthoud like than traditional Brooks. So far the road and commuter Cambiums are holding up very well. We'll have to see if they are as durable as the Berthoud. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:07:09 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
I run about the same seat post showing as your photo. I too was in between sizes and decided to go with a smaller frame. I run a suspension seat post (soon to be replaced after 10 years of use. After 3 back surgeries it is a must and greatly improves comfort. I am getting a USE post).. With a larger frame, there is too little seat post showing, to fit one. The greatest improvement to any bike is lighter wheels and tires. My Atlantis weighs around 44 lbs as I have it set up with bags, fenders, U lock etc. I am thinking of getting a cyclocross bike just because it would be easier to get to my apartment upstairs...lol. Anywhoo my recommendation is lighter wheels and tires. I have fun fiddling with my bike and after ten years of buying and trying all kinds of changes, I have it perfect (for me). Have fun! On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote: Hello Group! My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so. I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web specials from last year). See a pic here https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/. I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it! I love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, etc. etc. However, I've been wondering if its too small for me. My PBH of 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the picture, I've got an immodest amount of seatpost showing. :) If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an AHH, and effectively combine my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring. Double top tube Sam may be overkill anyway! It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method. Does anyone with a similar PBH have any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes? I feel like the 61 would be great, but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike again, thus I consider the 63... General comments, questions, and observations are welcome! Avery first-time-new-topic-poster Wilson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I have one on my Atlantis and find it very comfortable. I have ridden B-17s for a long time and find this one well worth recommending. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:07:09 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars
The Sparrow bar takes mountain bike levers. I like to angle the bar ends down. Typically I go to the narrow front bend for climbing, this works well for me. The dirt drops have road levers. Road levers never feel right in my hands, so I seldom ride on the hoods. The center section is okay but not a favorite of mine. The hooks, being angled down towards the rear drop outs, are where I stay. This also allows for one finger braking while maintaining great control on the bars. The hooks also give me the most power for climbing on the road. Handle bars are fun to play with. There is no right one, just the one that works best for you. Have fun! Casey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Keven/Vince style thumbshifters
I just happened to see this today as I was reading the Blug. I think I have a project for tonight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles
The Lovely Bicycle blog has a few articles about Berthoud saddles. Here's one. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/01/gilles-berthoud-saddles-something.html?m=1 I considered, but did not try the less expensive Berthoud Menthe, and a model from Rivet before ordering and being very pleased with a Brooks Cambium. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Keven/Vince style thumbshifters
Can you do likewise with the $15 Sunrace friction shifters? Dave On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC-5, Dave wrote: Inspired by Grants post about Liesl's gorgeous new bike, I swapped around my paul thumbies on a pair of boscos. Right paul to the left side, left paul to right side. Instead of the actual thumbshifter being on the outside where there can be overlap between where the shifter is and where your palm wants to be, the shifter moves to the inside of the bar where it's out of the way. There's no downside at all unless you like indexed shifting (which I guess you could still do if you ran your rear derailleur shifting from the left hand), and the upside is *huge*. The thumbies no longer get in the way of certain grips, you can actually hook into them pretty nicely with a thumb, and you get so much more grippable bar area than with the thumb shifters on the outside. Thanks Vince and Keven, and Grant for the photos! http://24.media.tumblr.com/fd11334eb76cd2f7f6eba6864f8a0eb3/tumblr_n30lktXPLy1qe3ngpo6_1280.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 33.3 vs 35 (Jack Brown vs Paselas)
Sorry if this is an old, worn out topic. My main question is to do with the benefits of a smoother rolling tire (Jack Brown) vs a slightly fatter tire. The Pasela isn't that much larger than the Jack Brown, but on the other hand, the Jack Brown isn't that much larger than my current tires. Both would probably be an improvement, but in different ways. I don't have a strong preference along the fast rolling vs puncture resistance spectrum. I currently ride short to moderate rides–mainly city or well worn trails. I have 32mm Kenda Eurotreks that came with my Handsome Devil, which I have Rivved up as best I can (and which I like a lot and won't know any better until one of you puts a non-single speed Riv up for sale at just the right price in just the right size at just the right point in a paycheck cycle). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Dyad rims are not particularly heavy - the weight difference between them and Synergy rims aren't far off that. Tires have much more bearing on feel. Well worth trying the longer stem though, or maybe just try the bars a cm or two lower. Or both the longer stem and the bars a touch lower. Ian A. On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 1:06:24 PM UTC-6, Avery Wilson wrote: Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95% happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer stem.. I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails unwrapping and rewrapping half of my bars. :) So a little description of the current setup: 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne 10CM Tallux stem Albatross bars Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims) Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead. Brooks B17 regular. Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack.. :) Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino triple, tektro R559 etc. Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires? Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS/WTT Brooks grips
I have: Brand new Brooks Slender honey colored grips (installed, ridden 5 miles, swapped for barcon-compatible cork): $50+SH I have and want to keep but would be willing to trade for exactly the right things: Sackville Saddlesack Small in tan (Love it, but wish it was medium). Left side only Silver Barend shifter (new, never used). I want: 700c tire set in good shape: Jack Browns or 35mm Paselas or… Medium Saddlesack I will also hear about things like: Pannier capable rear racks, Bosco bars, bags that would sit well on my Pass Stow rack, Sugino double cranks, other cool stuff you have. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Hey there Avery - That is a very nice looking rig. It doesn't really strike me as immodest... ;^) I'd look more at the stem setup than the seatpost. With that handlebar setup, It does seem that you could jump up to the 60 cm and still be right in the middle of the height range. So, it does get back to what you are comfortable with. I'm just a little shorted legged than you (85) and have a 59 AHH, and would probably tend towards the 56 Sam (though I've ridden the 60 over at RBWHQL and it was just fine). The other question I'd ask is what you plan on doing for cockpit setup on the AHH. Are you going to use basically the same bar/stem and overall position? If so, you'll probably find the AHH and Sam to be reasonably close cousins. The great thing about RBW designs is that they invite experimentation. Swapping in drop bars (from the Ranndonneur?) would give you a more road-type Sam, which would in turn give you a sense of what the Hilsen would be like. I don't think any bike is necessarily overkill - I find you just end up with more possibilities. hope that helps! - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Avery, My PBH is 91.5 and I ride a 60cm Hillborne. I was fitted by Riv onsite. In all honesty I feel the frame is a touch too large, but I'm one of those long legged short torso kind'a guys; so it's not all about PBH. But regardless, I do not think, with a PBH of 88, you would've been happy on a 60cm Sam Hillborne. So I think you made the right choice at the time, if that makes you feel any better. If you feel the bike is too small I'd suggest replacing your Albatross bars with either Noodles or the new Albastache. Either of those should open things up for you. And in regards to performance I'd start with new tires. If that doesn't improve things enough than a new wheelset. And if after all that, you still are not happy, than purchase the appropriate size Homer frameset and transfer the new wheel set and handlebars of your choice. Matt On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote: Hello Group! My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so. I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web specials from last year). See a pic here https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/. I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it! I love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, etc. etc. However, I've been wondering if its too small for me. My PBH of 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the picture, I've got an immodest amount of seatpost showing. :) If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an AHH, and effectively combine my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring. Double top tube Sam may be overkill anyway! It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method. Does anyone with a similar PBH have any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes? I feel like the 61 would be great, but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike again, thus I consider the 63... General comments, questions, and observations are welcome! Avery first-time-new-topic-poster Wilson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] wtt: my Schwalbe Marathon 650b tires for your Nifty Swifty 650b
I have a nice pair of Schwalbe Marathon 650b tires and I'm looking to trade for your pair of nice Nifty Swifty 650b tires. Any takers? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t102-10082.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
As far as thickness and materials, there do seem to be variations between Brooks models. (And obviously, since it uses organic material, between various runs of the same model...) For my position and shape, I find the B17's to be a bit wrong. They are a little too wide (though I can deal with shorter errands on them.) I've migrated to the Swift as my go to shape (and - darn it! - also love the Swallow, but only because I got lucky once finding one cheaply from a list member...) Anyway, my original point is that the Swifts I've gotten are uniformally thicker than the B17's I've bought or ended up with. I'm just breaking in a new one now, and even though the shape is perfect, the give is still quite minimal after ~400 miles or so. hope that helps, - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Of course, maybe Avery is just ready for a new Riv. I've been through five of their wonderful bicycles and am currently between Rivs, so I certainly understand this process. Hey Avery, if you really want a new Hilsen, *buy one!* Joe a sage green Sam would be nice Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:35:03 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Avery, My PBH is 91.5 and I ride a 60cm Hillborne. I was fitted by Riv onsite. In all honesty I feel the frame is a touch too large, but I'm one of those long legged short torso kind'a guys; so it's not all about PBH. But regardless, I do not think, with a PBH of 88, you would've been happy on a 60cm Sam Hillborne. So I think you made the right choice at the time, if that makes you feel any better. If you feel the bike is too small I'd suggest replacing your Albatross bars with either Noodles or the new Albastache. Either of those should open things up for you. And in regards to performance I'd start with new tires. If that doesn't improve things enough than a new wheelset. And if after all that, you still are not happy, than purchase the appropriate size Homer frameset and transfer the new wheel set and handlebars of your choice. Matt On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote: Hello Group! My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so. I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web specials from last year). See a pic here https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/. I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it! I love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, etc. etc. However, I've been wondering if its too small for me. My PBH of 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the picture, I've got an immodest amount of seatpost showing. :) If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an AHH, and effectively combine my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring. Double top tube Sam may be overkill anyway! It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method. Does anyone with a similar PBH have any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes? I feel like the 61 would be great, but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike again, thus I consider the 63... General comments, questions, and observations are welcome! Avery first-time-new-topic-poster Wilson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 33.3 vs 35 (Jack Brown vs Paselas)
Hi Mathew, The Jack Brown and Paselas are both good tires. The Jack Brown would be a little smoother, but a little more expensive. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 33.3 vs 35 (Jack Brown vs Paselas)
Both are great tires, Mathew. I love Paselas though, and think the 35mm ones are the perfect tire. They roll pretty fast for such inexpensive tires, and the extra bit of float is definitely nicer if you get into any soft sand (you didn't mention where you would be riding them). Puncture protection is about the same IMHO. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mathew, The Jack Brown and Paselas are both good tires. The Jack Brown would be a little smoother, but a little more expensive. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 33.3 vs 35 (Jack Brown vs Paselas)
I like em both, but have found the slight size difference gives Jack Brown a benefit on my older frames, where the Pasela x35 is sometimes just that much too big to clear chainstays... =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 4/2/14, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Both are great tires, Mathew. I love Paselas though, and think the 35mm ones are the perfect tire. They roll pretty fast for such inexpensive tires, and the extra bit of float is definitely nicer if you get into any soft sand (you didn't mention where you would be riding them). Puncture protection is about the same IMHO. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mathew, The Jack Brown and Paselas are both good tires. The Jack Brown would be a little smoother, but a little more expensive. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it
Hey! it's another red Atlantis!! On Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:20:40 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion
But it comes with a giant hole in the top! Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:06:46 PM UTC-7, doc wrote: The Selle Titanico is a good leather saddle for mountain biking; long and narrow, long rails for easy setback, watershed finish, not overly priced, and reasonably attractive. On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:02:59 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him (his name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on it’s his responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it’s your own fault. Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can count my falls on one hand despite technical trail riding, he’s lived up to his name!) — anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But in the ensuing time, I’ve learned that on roads there are people and their insidious noise machines far more often than there are on single track. I’ve also learned the weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style riding and bikepacking. So my plan, as budget allows, is to convert Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack beastie and here is the plan: Tires: I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1 rear, 2.25 front. Fenders: I’ve dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25”. Handlebars: You’ve seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross to a bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar. Saddle: Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get weight back on steep descents. Recommendations here? Cassette: Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding to be done in the middle ring (36t). Front Deraileure: Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed. Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my Sugino 170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing for riding mountain trails with touring load. Any and all inputs welcome. I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike is. With my road setup I’ve ridden significant section s of the Colorado Trail (technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these trails when properly set up? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I spoke with Mike and Boulder Bicycle, who said there aren't saddle sack loops on the saddles except one model, and when he was concerned the plastic might break on the one model when he heard it is a large SaddleSack I'm using. I'm thinking I'll focus on the Brooks b17 select or Swift. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
The 56 Sam has a pretty long theoretical TT - 59cm - actually the same listed TT as a 61 AHH. Going to a 63 AHH with an 88 PBH might be tough as the listed standover is 88.8, Not sure what tires that SO was measured with. Maybe a longer stem as a first stop. A 12cm might just do the trick. Or switching out the Albas for drops or the albastache bars. I think that bike looks pretty sharp and see no problems with the amount of seat post. Good luck dialing things in or with a new bike. Dan Marin, CA On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, maybe Avery is just ready for a new Riv. I've been through five of their wonderful bicycles and am currently between Rivs, so I certainly understand this process. Hey Avery, if you really want a new Hilsen, *buy one!* Joe a sage green Sam would be nice Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:35:03 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Avery, My PBH is 91.5 and I ride a 60cm Hillborne. I was fitted by Riv onsite. In all honesty I feel the frame is a touch too large, but I'm one of those long legged short torso kind'a guys; so it's not all about PBH. But regardless, I do not think, with a PBH of 88, you would've been happy on a 60cm Sam Hillborne. So I think you made the right choice at the time, if that makes you feel any better. If you feel the bike is too small I'd suggest replacing your Albatross bars with either Noodles or the new Albastache. Either of those should open things up for you. And in regards to performance I'd start with new tires. If that doesn't improve things enough than a new wheelset. And if after all that, you still are not happy, than purchase the appropriate size Homer frameset and transfer the new wheel set and handlebars of your choice. Matt On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote: Hello Group! My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so. I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web specials from last year). See a pic here https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/. I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it! I love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, etc. etc. However, I've been wondering if its too small for me. My PBH of 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the picture, I've got an immodest amount of seatpost showing. :) If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an AHH, and effectively combine my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring. Double top tube Sam may be overkill anyway! It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method. Does anyone with a similar PBH have any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes? I feel like the 61 would be great, but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike again, thus I consider the 63... General comments, questions, and observations are welcome! Avery first-time-new-topic-poster Wilson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:15:50 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: But it comes with a giant hole in the top! Yes, that's for rain and mud to drain through. Another good feature is the big X to remind you where to put your butt. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
one of my riding partners has a Berthoud, and he is still trying to show it who is in charge :-) Probably has over 1000 miles on it now. I bought myself a Brooks Super Champion Flyer S many years ago, and it went from new to not bad to uncomfortable. The leather gave it up too quickly. Had the Selle Anatomica cut out installed, and it didn't help. (Still in the cabinet. Make an offer.) After many years of Terry Butterfly and a brief foray into the Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow, I bought a Rivet Pearl. Also very thick, stiff leather. Our relationship is improving. Almost 1000 miles on it so far. Due to the way the Rivet is constructed,, the skirts will never splay out. I am optimistic that we will get along well for the foreseeable future. Rivet saddles have a 1 year (!) return policy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
Mike Kone is a bright guy, but not sure there is a problem here. I attached a mid size Acorn with a Bordo Granite no problem. On shorter tours I used a loaded Carradice Super C with hoop. Packed that bag with clothes, shoes, tools and Minox binoculars (like to star gaze). No problems. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:17:13 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I spoke with Mike and Boulder Bicycle, who said there aren't saddle sack loops on the saddles except one model, and when he was concerned the plastic might break on the one model when he heard it is a large SaddleSack I'm using. I'm thinking I'll focus on the Brooks b17 select or Swift. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
Also, the Berthoud Aspin touring model, Marie Blanc Touring model and the Mente city saddle have bag loops. The sport riding model does not. Not sure why Mike said only one model has loops. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:58:48 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: Mike Kone is a bright guy, but not sure there is a problem here. I attached a mid size Acorn with a Bordo Granite no problem. On shorter tours I used a loaded Carradice Super C with hoop. Packed that bag with clothes, shoes, tools and Minox binoculars (like to star gaze). No problems. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:17:13 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I spoke with Mike and Boulder Bicycle, who said there aren't saddle sack loops on the saddles except one model, and when he was concerned the plastic might break on the one model when he heard it is a large SaddleSack I'm using. I'm thinking I'll focus on the Brooks b17 select or Swift. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Hello from the Portland Chapter of Cockpit Changers Anonymous. Hi I'm Chris and I'm a Cockpit Changer. I've been with the same cockpit for two weeks now (waits for applause) Avery, it does seem that the Albas are pretty high up and close in; Before trying other bars or bikes I'd definitely see about moving them a bit down and out, and maybe tilting them a bit forward. When I had them tilted back and high I felt like my quads were doing all the work and I fatigued easily, even if for short distances it was, well, it was great fun! Also, another list member and Portland riding buddy* once remarked that he never got the hang of Albas and the B17, and rides on a B67 saddle, so your mileage may vary. But to echo what others on this list have said, get a different stem and maybe try Noodles, or the Albastache if you're so inclined. Sometimes it's nice to feel on top of the bike which I think Albatrosses are good at, and sometimes it feels nice to feel in the bike which is what Noodles and Albastaches can get you. Just my two cents. (geez, more like two hundred dollars) cc *I never drop names, Zack On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote: The 56 Sam has a pretty long theoretical TT - 59cm - actually the same listed TT as a 61 AHH. Going to a 63 AHH with an 88 PBH might be tough as the listed standover is 88.8, Not sure what tires that SO was measured with. Maybe a longer stem as a first stop. A 12cm might just do the trick. Or switching out the Albas for drops or the albastache bars. I think that bike looks pretty sharp and see no problems with the amount of seat post. Good luck dialing things in or with a new bike. Dan Marin, CA On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, maybe Avery is just ready for a new Riv. I've been through five of their wonderful bicycles and am currently between Rivs, so I certainly understand this process. Hey Avery, if you really want a new Hilsen, *buy one!* Joe a sage green Sam would be nice Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:35:03 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Avery, My PBH is 91.5 and I ride a 60cm Hillborne. I was fitted by Riv onsite. In all honesty I feel the frame is a touch too large, but I'm one of those long legged short torso kind'a guys; so it's not all about PBH. But regardless, I do not think, with a PBH of 88, you would've been happy on a 60cm Sam Hillborne. So I think you made the right choice at the time, if that makes you feel any better. If you feel the bike is too small I'd suggest replacing your Albatross bars with either Noodles or the new Albastache. Either of those should open things up for you. And in regards to performance I'd start with new tires. If that doesn't improve things enough than a new wheelset. And if after all that, you still are not happy, than purchase the appropriate size Homer frameset and transfer the new wheel set and handlebars of your choice. Matt On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote: Hello Group! My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so. I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web specials from last year). See a pic here https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/. I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it! I love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, etc. etc. However, I've been wondering if its too small for me. My PBH of 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the picture, I've got an immodest amount of seatpost showing. :) If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an AHH, and effectively combine my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring. Double top tube Sam may be overkill anyway! It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method. Does anyone with a similar PBH have any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes? I feel like the 61 would be great, but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike again, thus I consider the 63... General comments, questions, and observations are welcome! Avery first-time-new-topic-poster Wilson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: 33.3 vs 35 (Jack Brown vs Paselas)
Mattew, I ran Pasela's 700x35c on my Handsome Devil for quite some time, with fenders, and really liked them although a while ago I lost my mind, removed my fenders and crammed some 700x47c Continental touring plus' on the Devil and have been enjoying my poor mans fat bike, or is that fat mans poor bike?, ever since. I don't think you can go wrong with either of the tires you are considering. Pictures of my HD with Paselas and Contis here http://ryansrebuilds.blogspot.com/2012/12/fat-tires-on-winter-solstice.html Ryan On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:09:20 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: Sorry if this is an old, worn out topic. My main question is to do with the benefits of a smoother rolling tire (Jack Brown) vs a slightly fatter tire. The Pasela isn't that much larger than the Jack Brown, but on the other hand, the Jack Brown isn't that much larger than my current tires. Both would probably be an improvement, but in different ways. I don't have a strong preference along the fast rolling vs puncture resistance spectrum. I currently ride short to moderate rides–mainly city or well worn trails. I have 32mm Kenda Eurotreks that came with my Handsome Devil, which I have Rivved up as best I can (and which I like a lot and won't know any better until one of you puts a non-single speed Riv up for sale at just the right price in just the right size at just the right point in a paycheck cycle). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad
Followup, I followed Rob's pressure seating technique and they have, indeed, grown to nearly the book size, coming up at 37mm and change. As I may have mentioned before, I'm not miffed or disappointed necessarily, and now that I know it's a bit of a black art it makes total sense. I should also mention that they ride great and look spiffy. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I am not sure how much these have plumped up for you since install, hopefully a bit more. One thing I have done out of habit is inflate them up to about 100PSI or so and let it sit over night. This works 90% or more of the stretch in and also seats the rim tape nicely on fresh builds. We ran into similar feedback on the C-Lines and as with Jan's mentioned black art to the making process, there is even a mm or so of variation throughout the tire run. So if a wide set ends up on some A23 rims they met be the full 38mm while a narrow set on open pro rims may measure 35-36mm Rob On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change. I'm gonna go out for a ride. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I just talked with Debra at Rivet Saddles. She has what she calls a Netflixs for Saddles where for $25 she'll send you a saddle to try (whatever she has available from the exchanges/returns she gets in her 1-year guarantee). You ride the saddle for a few months, whatever, then contact her to either buy a new, specific saddle, or keep the one you are trying at a discount off full price. I admit I am intrigued and am trying it out. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:53:35 AM UTC-6, Lynne Fitz wrote: one of my riding partners has a Berthoud, and he is still trying to show it who is in charge :-) Probably has over 1000 miles on it now. I bought myself a Brooks Super Champion Flyer S many years ago, and it went from new to not bad to uncomfortable. The leather gave it up too quickly. Had the Selle Anatomica cut out installed, and it didn't help. (Still in the cabinet. Make an offer.) After many years of Terry Butterfly and a brief foray into the Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow, I bought a Rivet Pearl. Also very thick, stiff leather. Our relationship is improving. Almost 1000 miles on it so far. Due to the way the Rivet is constructed,, the skirts will never splay out. I am optimistic that we will get along well for the foreseeable future. Rivet saddles have a 1 year (!) return policy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad
And by spiffy I mean https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/13587578923/ On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Followup, I followed Rob's pressure seating technique and they have, indeed, grown to nearly the book size, coming up at 37mm and change. As I may have mentioned before, I'm not miffed or disappointed necessarily, and now that I know it's a bit of a black art it makes total sense. I should also mention that they ride great and look spiffy. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I am not sure how much these have plumped up for you since install, hopefully a bit more. One thing I have done out of habit is inflate them up to about 100PSI or so and let it sit over night. This works 90% or more of the stretch in and also seats the rim tape nicely on fresh builds. We ran into similar feedback on the C-Lines and as with Jan's mentioned black art to the making process, there is even a mm or so of variation throughout the tire run. So if a wide set ends up on some A23 rims they met be the full 38mm while a narrow set on open pro rims may measure 35-36mm Rob On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change. I'm gonna go out for a ride. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it
Hi All, I just switched out my last favorite rubber: Continental Cyclecross Speed 700-42C's that I bot from Riv last year --- great ride and good for both smooth and gravel as well as mud and freezing surfaces (actually measured 38mm on Mavic A319 rims at approx 60 lbs pressure). I now am running the Compass Barlow Pass 700-38 extralight tan sidewalls. They measure 37.7mm at 45 lbs on the front and 37.8 at 55 lbs on the rear - on Mavic A319 wheels ( awesomely built by Jude at Sugar Wheelworks in PDX). Have only run errands around town but they feel great - cushy, track beautifully (easy no hands riding) and seem to grip well in the usual PDX wet. Have just got out of the hosp after a bout with pneumonia so I haven't been able to do any long rides but will report back when I put on some miles. Here are some pics: Homer with Barlows (set)https://www.flickr.com/photos/dhoganahh/sets/72157643321485645 Regards DennisAHH in PDX On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:03:42 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: They roll very smoothly. The bike feels more efficient than it does with other similarly wide tires, while the 37 mm width gives so much confidence over bumps in the road. They felt very smooth on the fire road as well. -Original Message- From: Mike On A Bike Sent: Apr 1, 2014 9:22 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it Could you describe why you love them? On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:24:44 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote: Also using it, and loving it! https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/ - Frank On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Hello from the Portland Chapter of Cockpit Changers Anonymous. Hi I'm Chris and I'm a Cockpit Changer. I've been with the same cockpit for two weeks now (waits for applause) Avery, it does seem that the Albas are pretty high up and close in; Before trying other bars or bikes I'd definitely see about moving them a bit down and out, and maybe tilting them a bit forward. When I had them tilted back and high I felt like my quads were doing all the work and I fatigued easily, even if for short distances it was, well, it was great fun! Also, another list member and Portland riding buddy* once remarked that he never got the hang of Albas and the B17, and rides on a B67 saddle, so your mileage may vary. But to echo what others on this list have said, get a different stem and maybe try Noodles, or the Albastache if you're so inclined. Sometimes it's nice to feel on top of the bike which I think Albatrosses are good at, and sometimes it feels nice to feel in the bike which is what Noodles and Albastaches can get you. Just my two cents. (geez, more like two hundred dollars) cc *I never drop names, Zack On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.comwrote: The 56 Sam has a pretty long theoretical TT - 59cm - actually the same listed TT as a 61 AHH. Going to a 63 AHH with an 88 PBH might be tough as the listed standover is 88.8, Not sure what tires that SO was measured with. Maybe a longer stem as a first stop. A 12cm might just do the trick. Or switching out the Albas for drops or the albastache bars. I think that bike looks pretty sharp and see no problems with the amount of seat post. Good luck dialing things in or with a new bike. Dan Marin, CA On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, maybe Avery is just ready for a new Riv. I've been through five of their wonderful bicycles and am currently between Rivs, so I certainly understand this process. Hey Avery, if you really want a new Hilsen, *buy one!* Joe a sage green Sam would be nice Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:35:03 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Avery, My PBH is 91.5 and I ride a 60cm Hillborne. I was fitted by Riv onsite. In all honesty I feel the frame is a touch too large, but I'm one of those long legged
Re: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it
Dennis: Sorry to hear your were laid up. Good to hear you're out and about again! Lovely bike as always On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Dennis Hogan hoga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just switched out my last favorite rubber: Continental Cyclecross Speed 700-42C's that I bot from Riv last year --- great ride and good for both smooth and gravel as well as mud and freezing surfaces (actually measured 38mm on Mavic A319 rims at approx 60 lbs pressure). I now am running the Compass Barlow Pass 700-38 extralight tan sidewalls. They measure 37.7mm at 45 lbs on the front and 37.8 at 55 lbs on the rear - on Mavic A319 wheels ( awesomely built by Jude at Sugar Wheelworks in PDX). Have only run errands around town but they feel great - cushy, track beautifully (easy no hands riding) and seem to grip well in the usual PDX wet. Have just got out of the hosp after a bout with pneumonia so I haven't been able to do any long rides but will report back when I put on some miles. Here are some pics: Homer with Barlows (set)https://www.flickr.com/photos/dhoganahh/sets/72157643321485645 Regards DennisAHH in PDX On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:03:42 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: They roll very smoothly. The bike feels more efficient than it does with other similarly wide tires, while the 37 mm width gives so much confidence over bumps in the road. They felt very smooth on the fire road as well. -Original Message- From: Mike On A Bike Sent: Apr 1, 2014 9:22 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it Could you describe why you love them? On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:24:44 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote: Also using it, and loving it! https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/ - Frank On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it
Glad you're recovering, Dennis! May your road to health be smooth and quick. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:45:38 PM UTC-6, Dennis Hogan wrote: Hi All, I just switched out my last favorite rubber: Continental Cyclecross Speed 700-42C's that I bot from Riv last year --- great ride and good for both smooth and gravel as well as mud and freezing surfaces (actually measured 38mm on Mavic A319 rims at approx 60 lbs pressure). I now am running the Compass Barlow Pass 700-38 extralight tan sidewalls. They measure 37.7mm at 45 lbs on the front and 37.8 at 55 lbs on the rear - on Mavic A319 wheels ( awesomely built by Jude at Sugar Wheelworks in PDX). Have only run errands around town but they feel great - cushy, track beautifully (easy no hands riding) and seem to grip well in the usual PDX wet. Have just got out of the hosp after a bout with pneumonia so I haven't been able to do any long rides but will report back when I put on some miles. Here are some pics: Homer with Barlows (set)https://www.flickr.com/photos/dhoganahh/sets/72157643321485645 Regards DennisAHH in PDX On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:03:42 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: They roll very smoothly. The bike feels more efficient than it does with other similarly wide tires, while the 37 mm width gives so much confidence over bumps in the road. They felt very smooth on the fire road as well. -Original Message- From: Mike On A Bike Sent: Apr 1, 2014 9:22 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it Could you describe why you love them? On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:24:44 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote: Also using it, and loving it! https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/ - Frank On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
I've got a pair! I need to get a soldering iron to solder the ends of cables so I can use them more than once. Once they start fraying, it's all over! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Also I just ordered a set of Barlow Pass tires. Anybody running these tubeless with Stan's? (I'm an unrepentant tubeless believer for my mountain biking and I LOVE having zero flats with it..) On Apr 2, 2014 4:55 PM, Avery E Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a pair! I need to get a soldering iron to solder the ends of cables so I can use them more than once. Once they start fraying, it's all over! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Get you a good pair of housing cutters :) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Avery E Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Hello from the Portland Chapter of Cockpit Changers Anonymous. Hi I'm Chris and I'm a Cockpit Changer. I've been with the same cockpit for two weeks now (waits for applause) Avery, it does seem that the Albas are pretty high up and close in; Before trying other bars or bikes I'd definitely see about moving them a bit down and out, and maybe tilting them a bit forward. When I had them tilted back and high I felt like my quads were doing all the work and I fatigued easily, even if for short distances it was, well, it was great fun! Also, another list member and Portland riding buddy* once remarked that he never got the hang of Albas and the B17, and rides on a B67 saddle, so your mileage may vary. But to echo what others on this list have said, get a different stem and maybe try Noodles, or the Albastache if you're so inclined. Sometimes it's nice to feel on top of the bike which I think Albatrosses are good at, and sometimes it feels nice to feel in the bike which is what Noodles and Albastaches can get you. Just my two cents. (geez, more like two hundred dollars) cc *I never drop names, Zack On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.comwrote: The 56 Sam has a pretty long theoretical TT - 59cm - actually the same listed TT as a 61 AHH. Going to a 63 AHH with an 88 PBH might be tough as the listed standover is 88.8, Not sure what tires that SO was measured with. Maybe a longer stem as a first stop. A 12cm might just do the trick. Or switching out the Albas for drops or the albastache bars. I think that bike looks pretty sharp and see no problems with the amount of seat post. Good luck dialing things in or with a new bike. Dan Marin, CA On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.comwrote: Of course, maybe Avery is just ready for a new Riv. I've been through five of their wonderful bicycles and am currently between Rivs, so I certainly understand this process. Hey Avery, if you really want a new Hilsen, *buy one!* Joe a sage green Sam would be nice Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:35:03 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Avery,
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Hi Avery, Welcome! I'm a cockpit changer myself. (Currently setting up moustache to go along with my Noodles + bullmoose cockpits.) Since you're running bar-ends, take a look at this blog post. http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ It details how to swap the bar ends, shifters, etc., from one bar to another. You won't need to worry about cables, etc., if you go from albas to Noodles (and back/forth). You might want to reconsider how you wrap your shift cables in order to minimize the work. For the caliper brakes: If you happen to mangle the brake cables, you could always move the rear brake cable to the front (cutting off the mangled part). It's probably a good idea to check the brake cable to make sure it's intact and otherwise fine before re-using it for the front brake cable. The worst you're out is a new brake cable ($4 on Riv). Have fun! It's great to have different cockpit set ups-- it's N+1+ shoji On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:24:33 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
I actually have two sets of silver bar ends already :) One of the Albas and another set on the noodles that are currently on the VO. So, cockpit swaps may be easier than feared. :) On Apr 2, 2014 5:19 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Avery, Welcome! I'm a cockpit changer myself. (Currently setting up moustache to go along with my Noodles + bullmoose cockpits.) Since you're running bar-ends, take a look at this blog post. http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ It details how to swap the bar ends, shifters, etc., from one bar to another. You won't need to worry about cables, etc., if you go from albas to Noodles (and back/forth). You might want to reconsider how you wrap your shift cables in order to minimize the work. For the caliper brakes: If you happen to mangle the brake cables, you could always move the rear brake cable to the front (cutting off the mangled part). It's probably a good idea to check the brake cable to make sure it's intact and otherwise fine before re-using it for the front brake cable. The worst you're out is a new brake cable ($4 on Riv). Have fun! It's great to have different cockpit set ups-- it's N+1+ shoji On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:24:33 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aMFNeEIH0Nc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c2Fe_qm5Ltk/UzyaDwqZ7-I/ASo/eDCH0EN4O9M/s1600/photo.JPG Somehow the braze-on for a water bottle on a friend's Quickbeam was ripped off leaving only a sad hole for rain to get into. See Above: Is this something any competent frame builder can repair? Has anyone figured out any hacks to fix this without going to a frame builder? Thanks Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
Fender washer? Er, those expandable plastic washers that look like small toggle bolts for attaching elements to body panels? Actual toggle bolts, or...what about drywall anchors? :) cc On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.comwrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c2Fe_qm5Ltk/UzyaDwqZ7-I/ASo/eDCH0EN4O9M/s1600/photo.JPG Somehow the braze-on for a water bottle on a friend's Quickbeam was ripped off leaving only a sad hole for rain to get into. See Above: Is this something any competent frame builder can repair? Has anyone figured out any hacks to fix this without going to a frame builder? Thanks Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
This page on the Park Tool site talks about the procedure that one could use to insert a rivnut into that sad hole. That's the way to try to fix it without going to the framebuilder Park RivNut pagehttp://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/water-bottle-fittings I'm sure there are qualifiers. Like, if the sad hole is WAY bigger than the Outside Diameter of the RivNut, then it wont work. The bummer about having a framebuilder do it is you'll cook off a pretty big swath of paint. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:17:40 PM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c2Fe_qm5Ltk/UzyaDwqZ7-I/ASo/eDCH0EN4O9M/s1600/photo.JPG Somehow the braze-on for a water bottle on a friend's Quickbeam was ripped off leaving only a sad hole for rain to get into. See Above: Is this something any competent frame builder can repair? Has anyone figured out any hacks to fix this without going to a frame builder? Thanks Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Saw this on the bay today. Good price if the size is right for you. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-59cm-/121310492445?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160 On Apr 2, 2014 5:25 PM, Avery E Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote: I actually have two sets of silver bar ends already :) One of the Albas and another set on the noodles that are currently on the VO. So, cockpit swaps may be easier than feared. :) On Apr 2, 2014 5:19 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Avery, Welcome! I'm a cockpit changer myself. (Currently setting up moustache to go along with my Noodles + bullmoose cockpits.) Since you're running bar-ends, take a look at this blog post. http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ It details how to swap the bar ends, shifters, etc., from one bar to another. You won't need to worry about cables, etc., if you go from albas to Noodles (and back/forth). You might want to reconsider how you wrap your shift cables in order to minimize the work. For the caliper brakes: If you happen to mangle the brake cables, you could always move the rear brake cable to the front (cutting off the mangled part). It's probably a good idea to check the brake cable to make sure it's intact and otherwise fine before re-using it for the front brake cable. The worst you're out is a new brake cable ($4 on Riv). Have fun! It's great to have different cockpit set ups-- it's N+1+ shoji On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:24:33 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aMFNeEIH0Nc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: From Noodles to Albatross ~ Stem length?
I also went up on the Albas, which surprised me as I figured the built in upsweep would be enough and I would actually insert the quill furthur into the fork, but nope, about an inch higher. Luckily the Technomic has lots of quill, but I think when I go to a shorter extension I will just get a Dirt Drop. -Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Quick! Bike nerds! ID the production date by the lack of a top eyelet on the fork dropout! :) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Saw this on the bay today. Good price if the size is right for you. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-59cm-/121310492445?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160 On Apr 2, 2014 5:25 PM, Avery E Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote: I actually have two sets of silver bar ends already :) One of the Albas and another set on the noodles that are currently on the VO. So, cockpit swaps may be easier than feared. :) On Apr 2, 2014 5:19 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Avery, Welcome! I'm a cockpit changer myself. (Currently setting up moustache to go along with my Noodles + bullmoose cockpits.) Since you're running bar-ends, take a look at this blog post. http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ It details how to swap the bar ends, shifters, etc., from one bar to another. You won't need to worry about cables, etc., if you go from albas to Noodles (and back/forth). You might want to reconsider how you wrap your shift cables in order to minimize the work. For the caliper brakes: If you happen to mangle the brake cables, you could always move the rear brake cable to the front (cutting off the mangled part). It's probably a good idea to check the brake cable to make sure it's intact and otherwise fine before re-using it for the front brake cable. The worst you're out is a new brake cable ($4 on Riv). Have fun! It's great to have different cockpit set ups-- it's N+1+ shoji On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:24:33 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aMFNeEIH0Nc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
Check the Black Mountain Cycles blog. They had a similar issue on some of their frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
I had that issue on my black mountain cycles Monstercross. The riv nut fix is working so far. Their website has a video on the fix. Dan Abelson On Apr 2, 2014 4:17 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c2Fe_qm5Ltk/UzyaDwqZ7-I/ASo/eDCH0EN4O9M/s1600/photo.JPG Somehow the braze-on for a water bottle on a friend's Quickbeam was ripped off leaving only a sad hole for rain to get into. See Above: Is this something any competent frame builder can repair? Has anyone figured out any hacks to fix this without going to a frame builder? Thanks Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I have a rivet independence and I like it a lot. It works better for me than Brooks and Berthoud. Debra is also great to deal with. I do think the Berthoud is probably the best constructed of the saddles but mine stayed hard as a rock and I just couldn't get comfortable. Dan Abelson On Apr 2, 2014 11:38 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I just talked with Debra at Rivet Saddles. She has what she calls a Netflixs for Saddles where for $25 she'll send you a saddle to try (whatever she has available from the exchanges/returns she gets in her 1-year guarantee). You ride the saddle for a few months, whatever, then contact her to either buy a new, specific saddle, or keep the one you are trying at a discount off full price. I admit I am intrigued and am trying it out. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:53:35 AM UTC-6, Lynne Fitz wrote: one of my riding partners has a Berthoud, and he is still trying to show it who is in charge :-) Probably has over 1000 miles on it now. I bought myself a Brooks Super Champion Flyer S many years ago, and it went from new to not bad to uncomfortable. The leather gave it up too quickly. Had the Selle Anatomica cut out installed, and it didn't help. (Still in the cabinet. Make an offer.) After many years of Terry Butterfly and a brief foray into the Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow, I bought a Rivet Pearl. Also very thick, stiff leather. Our relationship is improving. Almost 1000 miles on it so far. Due to the way the Rivet is constructed,, the skirts will never splay out. I am optimistic that we will get along well for the foreseeable future. Rivet saddles have a 1 year (!) return policy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles
I messaged this to just Patrick, but am sharing with all now. The Berthoud does break in and get much much better. Patience! I am a B17 guy since 1995, but have grown frustrated with inconsistencies and relatively short saddle life. I tried the *Berthoud touring*https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/ when I built up my latest (last dammit!) new bike. Flat is where its at with this saddle, I sugget you do not tip it up and certainly not down. Yes it was a good long while before the saddle broke in. For a few months it was painful beyond about 40 miles. A few hot sweaty rides and one century ride in the rain fixed all that. It is supremely comfortable now. It would be my choice for a long tour. I have used *two different saddlebags*https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/10828931806/on the plastic saddlebag loops. I trust them I guess...I don't think about them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 1971 Hetchins Spyder For Sale - $1800
1971 Hetchins Spyder For Sale I've owned this Spyder since 1989 and sadly have put only a couple of hundred miles on it. About 9 years ago, I overhauled it, installed the 46cm Nitto Noodle handlebars, Nitto Lugged stem, new salmon brake pads, TruVative seatpost, replaced all cables and housings (with Campagnolo NOS housing), added the Willow Triplizer to the crankset and the Rally cage to the Nuovo Record derailleur, and installed the Bluemels fenders and Silca pump. I have a Campy NR seatpost and NR pedals that I will include in the sale. The one installed is obviously far from original and aesthetically out of place on the bike; it was my attempt at making the bike fit me. As shown in the photos, it fits me, a 6'2 guy with a 93cm PBH. 24 seat tube (center to top) 23 top tube (center to center) Nitto Noodle 46cm bars Nitto / Rivendell 10cm lugged stem Campagnolo Nuovo Record brakes and brake levers (generic gum hoods) Campagnolo bar end shifters Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur with long cage from Rally derailleur 5 speed 14-28T Regina freewheel Phil Wood bottom bracket Campagnolo 172.5mm Strada cranks 50T Campy ring 42T Willow triplizer middle ring 28T Sugino (?) small ring Campagnolo Nuovo Record front derailleur Brooks Professional saddle with Viva saddlebag loops Phil Wood hubs with Campy skewers, front and rear 700c Super Champion rims 36h front 40h rear Chrome Silca pump with Campy head included Includes Campy NR pedals, Cristophe toe clips, Alfredo Binda toe straps, all well worn. (Not shown.) Original Hetchins Rack and Frame have matching serial numbers (Avocet slick tires are from 1989 and should be replaced before any significant riding.) (Onza pedals and Nitto waterbottle cage shown are not included.) Probably considered a Grade 3. Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/letton/sets/72157623575743624/ Located near Santa Cruz, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT - My 42cm Noodles for your 46 or 48cm Noodles
Also looking for a singlespeed crank and bb. To buy or I could pay the difference if you want the handlebars. On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:43:25 AM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote: Good morning, I have a set of 42cm Noodle bars I bought to try them out, but I need something a little wider. They are clean with minimal wear - the typical zigzag lines from mounting the brake levers. I'll ship you mine if you ship me yours. If no one has Noodles to offer, I'm very interested in Boscos as well. Thanks! Mike in Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
When were QuickBeams made in that colour? - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam water bottle braze-on disappearance act
Is it the orange in lighting that makes it look red? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:51 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: When were QuickBeams made in that colour? - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Short Cage Rear Derailleur Recommendations.
With the talk of single chainring drivetrains, I'd like some recommendations about a short cage rear derailleur to go on my Redwood. Before folks jump on the why are you limiting yourself to such a small range of gears train of thought, I will say most, if not all, of my riding will be in and around the greater Chicagoland area, which is flat in the most literal sense of the word. A small range of gears is what I need and will use. Drivetrain will consist of: 42t ring up front 12-23 8-speed rear Friction dt shifter. What is still up in the air is what rear derailer to use. Any recommendations for a short cage derailleur? I have a couple long cage types I could use, but it seems unnecessary. Thanks in advance. Redwood build is coming together and should be done soon. David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Short Cage Rear Derailleur Recommendations.
Should add: I know there's an abundance of options. Looking for something that would look aesthetically pleasing on a Riv. New or vintage-ish recs welcomed. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Short Cage Rear Derailleur Recommendations.
Suntour Cyclone! http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/SunTour_Cyclone_black_derailleur_%285902_1st_style%29.html or Shimano Light Action: http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Light_Action_derailleur_%28L525_SS%29.html Evan E. SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
