[RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread Leslie
Oh oh oh  

If I didn't already have my canti-Rom

I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was drooling 
on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she had one, too...

Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice.

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[RBW] Re: FS Two 1985 Bridgestone MB-3's

2015-02-16 Thread Bruce Smitham
With its current tires the stand over is just a hair over 79cm or about 31 1/4 
inches.

Update: one of the bikes is sold. Looking for a box and trying to ship today or 
tomorrow. Thanks, Bruce

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:10:41 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
 I picked up both of these 1985 Bridgestone MB-3's from craigslist for $100 
 which were in a storage unit (sounds like one of those TV series). My thought 
 was to fix one up for my niece visiting this summer from the Netherlands and 
 sell the other to my brother. I have too much work and no time for such 
 projects so I'm selling both. If there is no interest then I will post on 
 Craigslist. Just wanted to give Riv and iBOB members first opportunity. The 
 frames measure 54cm seat tube  55 1/2cm top tubes. Both frames are steel 
 lugged and made in Japan with 4130 tubing and are in excellent condition- no 
 rust but a few scratches here and there. All original paint and components. 
 No high end components though- older Sugino double cranksets with bash 
 guards, Suntour FR derailleurs, Suntour thumbies, Araya wheels. I didn't 
 start to clean them so they are as they were from storage. Selling for what I 
 paid $50 each plus shipping and any paypal fees. Local pick up preferred. 
 Thanks, Bruce in San Diego 310-968-6910

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread Joe Bunik
Let me count the number of times a Legolas FS listing has come up... ;-)
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 2/16/15, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh oh oh

 If I didn't already have my canti-Rom

 I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was
 drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she had
 one, too...

 Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice.

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[RBW] FS: new Riv black cap and twofish pump holder

2015-02-16 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
My new black hat fits fine. I definitely agree that it's the best looking hat 
that Riv has sold.

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[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.

2015-02-16 Thread Jim D Massachusetts
Mike,  Another point to consider is the tire you intend to use. I have 
35 mm tires, smaller than Riv recommends, so that lowers the top tube. If 
you want to max out the tires, for aggressive off road, that would impact 
the standover. But the 54 still seems small for you. Jim D. 
 Massachusetts

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:47:13 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote:

 I have been eyeing the Hunqapillar for a few years and have decided to I 
 need to take a step closer to actually getting one: determining my size.

 I'm a hair under 6' tall, and not sure if I qualify as long-legged or 
 not. PBH is 90. Pretty sure I'd be perfect for a 56 Hunq, but since that 
 little dream boat doesn't exist and I can't spring for a custom, I need to 
 figure out which one of the available models fits me best. 

 That being said, is there anyone on the list in Austin, TX who would be 
 able to let me test-ride your 54 or 58 Hunq?

 Thanks, all.

 - Mike in Austin


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Re: [RBW] Re: Velo News on Bike Weight

2015-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Kyle: I read your blog regularly; please start publishing twice a day.

Regarding bike weight: my own experience with a motley array of different
bikes of different builds and qualities has been that weight is relatively
unimportant when it comes to feeling (note that word) spritely or
lively -- a notion that involves ease of pedaling and cadence in a given
gear, so it's not purely mental smoke. I had an old Herse that was a tank
as to weight (guesstimate 28 lb) but that from the first pedal stroke felt
fast. My erstwhile Sam Hillborne, no heavier, felt much slower; and
even the very light framed, *tout 531* '73 Motobecane didn't feel as
spritely; very same tires, IRC Tandems, 30 mm. My current Ram, also not
light at ~26 lb, feels fast, though this one has Parigi Roubaix tires on
it.

I wish I had an explanation for this phenomenon. I hesitantly guess that
fit and geometry affect this perception.

One exception to the weight no matter rule: my Riv fixie gofast, at 17
1/2 lb and with 370 gram rims and 200 gram tires seems easier (measured
by gearing -- slightly higher than other cruising gears at 75 -- and
cadence) to push up hills; in fact, every time I decide I don't need a
gofast and what I'll do is convert it to rack, lighting, 35+ mm tires, I
ride up some hills and decide, Damn! This is too good to relinquish!

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Kyle Brooks bicycle1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I read that article on VeloNews -- really just an excerpt from the book,
 Faster which is one I think I'd like to read. In any case, I wrote
 something about this idea on The Retrogrouch Blog last year. Not
 scientific, but just a comparison between two of my own bikes and my
 commute to work. The two bikes are pretty similar, but one is loaded up
 with bags, racks, fenders, lights, etc. all of which probably adds 15 lbs
 or so. I normally use the loaded one for my work commute, and it normally
 takes me about 50 minutes to ride the 13 miles to work. I achieved my best
 time, however, on the lighter bike -- 45 minutes for the same commute.
 However, that day, I had also managed to hit nothing but green lights the
 whole way to work. When I managed the same feat, all green lights, with the
 loaded bike, I came awfully close - 46 minutes. Again - it's more anecdotal
 than scientific, but in the end, I concluded that there are probably a lot
 of other things that make more difference than weight, and that being the
 case, it hardly makes sense to obsess about grams. If fenders, or
 racks/bags can improve our comfort and convenience, then they're worth
 whatever weight they add. It seems to me that a lighter bike feels
 faster, but the difference is more perception than reality.

 if interested, here's the link to the full article:
 http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-tale-of-two-bikes.html

 Kyle Brooks
 Akron, OH

 On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:41:33 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:

 GPP has said as much on the Blug before, but it's nice to see it in the
 Zeitgiest as well. If a 160 lb rider on a 22lb bike wants a 10% improvement
 is climbing speed, you need to drop 18 lbs! Going from a Bombadil to a
 Pinarello Dogma won't get you there. (I don't think. It might be close).
 Going on a diet and riding a lot of hills will though.

 http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/bike-weight-
 myth-fast-bikes_339880

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[RBW] A President's Day Ride

2015-02-16 Thread Addison Wilhite
The Atlantic has a great little article on bicycle history and the
holiday.  When I was posting a link I found a different photo of Jimmy
Carter with his Rivendell than the one I've seen in the past.  He's just
standing astride the bike.  A very handsome Allrounder.  Thought I'd share:

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2015/02/presidents-day-is-bicycle-day.html

Addison Wilhite, M.A.

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http://www.rtcwashoe.com/public-transportation-22-124.html

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Re: [RBW] Riv handlebars and back pain-your experience?

2015-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I've heard this experience from others, and there is a reason why the
standard drop bar position, with 45* back angle, has been so popular so
long; and why saddle/bar equilibrium (relative to the individual rider of
course) is the crucial part of bike fit.

Me, at about 57 or 8, a couple of years ago, with my neck getting stiffer,
I raised my (drop) bars about an inch to about 1 below saddle nose, and
switched to longer-ramp models (Maes Parallels; 42 cm Noodle; 44 cm B 135;
the Maes Parallels are the best of the bunch) from the agressively short
ramped185. Much better! Though as a frisky 40-something a bar 3 below
saddle was fine.

Another instance: long ago I complained to Grant that I felt I was losing
power TDC of the pedal stroke. I had my saddles way forward with long stems
in a stupid pursuit of KOPS. Grant said, Get the saddle back and the bar
up and back and I did both, moving the bar from a long extension and 6
below saddle to 8 cm and 3 below saddle. *Much* better for my back as well
as my power and my arms/shoulders! Butt-back works for me.


On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM, alan lavine cigar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All...Thought I would share this, as I'm sure I'm not the only
 mature cyclist with intermittent low back pain.  I have a small disc
 herniation at L4-L5 level that protrudes posteriorly and compresses the
 nerve root as it exits the vertebral column.  My first response was, well
 Grant was right, now I have to be more upright on the bike.  Not a problem
 for a chronic cockpit changer like me, anyway...is there a bar I haven't
 tried? Doubt it.

 So I put Albatross bars on the Ram, also tried porter bars on another
 bike, experimenting with various bar heights as well.  THIS MADE THINGS
 WORSE!  I went to moustache and albastache bars, with a shorter stem, bars
 level with the seat, and did much better.  The neurologist explained it:
 with your back bent forward at a gentle angle, 45 degree angle of trunk to
 horizontal, the vertebral column is bent in a way that opens up the
 posterior (back) aspect of the column and helps to relieve the compression
 of the nerve root.  An upright posture is more like a series of blocks one
 on top of another and all the force is directed straight down, compressing
 things further.

 I realize this scenario is specific to my particular anatomy but I'm
 curious to hear about others' experiences with this issue.  How has your
 riding changed as Father Time marches on?

 Alan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Velo News on Bike Weight

2015-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
O!

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:



 Enjoy the ride  .  . . . regardless ;-) The funny thing about
 weighting for Perfection - the perfect ride , the perfect moment , the
 perfect bike , the perfect body  .  . . .  . .is that it never really comes
 .  Oh yes . . . it seems to for a little while .  . . . but it quickly
 fades and the  weight continues  . . . . lol .

Heavvv-vy  . . . . sigh .  .  . . .

Fear not . .  . . fear nothing !

  Ever noticed . . .  in Love . .  . .  time stands still and is ever
 wait-less ?Material-ity feels weight-less ? Yes . .  .  .  to
 ride for the Love of BEing Life itself nothing matters but the Joy of it .

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Re: [RBW] FS: new Riv black cap and twofish pump holder

2015-02-16 Thread Patrick Shea
If you look at pics from the Tour de France circa 70-80s and early 90s, the
caps were very puffy on riders heads. More room for sponsor's name. Miguel
Indurain usually provides a great example.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:01 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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 My new black hat fits fine. I definitely agree that it's the best looking
 hat that Riv has sold.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex XL stuff

2015-02-16 Thread Zack
Adding some MUSA splats, barely used.

Size B  C, $20 each.  

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[RBW] FS: Nitto, King Cage, Schwalbe, etc.

2015-02-16 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
King Cages and Jack Browns are sold.

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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-16 Thread EGNolan
My wife recently made the switch from synthetic as well. We're still trying 
to get the dose right, it's good to hear we should just stick it out  keep 
experimenting.
 
Best,
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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Brilliant! Persevere!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 1:38:00 PM UTC-7, EGNolan wrote:

 My wife recently made the switch from synthetic as well. We're still 
 trying to get the dose right, it's good to hear we should just stick it out 
  keep experimenting.
  
 Best,
 Eric


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Re: [RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
And, fortunately for me, a size too big (tt too long). Ain't the Legolas
one of the Rivendell Holy Grail bikes?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:19 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:

 So trying to justify this. A size small, but I could make it work sort
 of a thing. Steerer unfortunately cut too low.  But I'm mostly okay with
 big angle stems. Could sell the road that I don't ride so much, get this,
 have a flexy-tubed big tire bike... AH!

 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:

 Riv built only about 80 total Legolas'. The Flickr Legolas group needs
 more contributors:
 https://www.flickr.com/groups/legolas/

 jim m
 wc ca


 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:

 and in my size?  zero! until nowhmmmy bank account is asking for
 someone else to snap this up!

 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Let me count the number of times a Legolas FS listing has come up...
 ;-)
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA

 On 2/16/15, Leslie leslie...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh oh oh
 
  If I didn't already have my canti-Rom
 
  I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right?
 Was
  drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she
 had
  one, too...
 
  Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice.
 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread John Speare
Hey Leslie.

That's my daughter. That was her bike 
http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/search/label/maddie%20xmass%20bike. 
Tarik Saleh's daughter is borrowing it now for a couple years.

Figure out a way to justify how the Legolas is a perfect compliment to your 
canti-Rom.

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:57:23 AM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:

 Oh oh oh   

 If I didn't already have my canti-Rom 

 I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was 
 drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she had 
 one, too... 

 Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice. 



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[RBW] Wtt 56cm hillborne for 56cm quickbeam or simple one

2015-02-16 Thread Trevor saxton
Have a new double top tube 56cm hillborne in blue, no longer available,  built 
up ridden 1 km and stripped down, been sitting in my basement for a year, its a 
bit too big and I need a quickbeam or simple one it has a small mark close to 
the bottom bracket. 

Will trade or sell for a reasonable amount.looking for $900 plus actual 
shipping costs.  

Pics sent upon request, email me at saxton...@gmail.com

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread Minh
and in my size?  zero! until nowhmmmy bank account is asking for 
someone else to snap this up!

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Let me count the number of times a Legolas FS listing has come up... ;-) 
 =- Joe Bunik 
 Walnut Creek, CA 

 On 2/16/15, Leslie leslie...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  Oh oh oh 
  
  If I didn't already have my canti-Rom 
  
  I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was 
  drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she 
 had 
  one, too... 
  
  Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice. 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fork-mount cable stop on seatstay bridge?

2015-02-16 Thread Tom Harrop
Just a quick follow-up, I got one of Surly's long cable hangers 
http://surlybikes.com/parts/small_parts/cable_hanger and it doesn't 
interfere with the binder bolt / collar like the Nitto one did. So, no 
filing necessary. Thanks again for all the replies.

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[RBW] Re: FS Two 1985 Bridgestone MB-3's

2015-02-16 Thread Bruce Smitham
Both bikes are sold

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:10:41 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
 I picked up both of these 1985 Bridgestone MB-3's from craigslist for $100 
 which were in a storage unit (sounds like one of those TV series). My thought 
 was to fix one up for my niece visiting this summer from the Netherlands and 
 sell the other to my brother. I have too much work and no time for such 
 projects so I'm selling both. If there is no interest then I will post on 
 Craigslist. Just wanted to give Riv and iBOB members first opportunity. The 
 frames measure 54cm seat tube  55 1/2cm top tubes. Both frames are steel 
 lugged and made in Japan with 4130 tubing and are in excellent condition- no 
 rust but a few scratches here and there. All original paint and components. 
 No high end components though- older Sugino double cranksets with bash 
 guards, Suntour FR derailleurs, Suntour thumbies, Araya wheels. I didn't 
 start to clean them so they are as they were from storage. Selling for what I 
 paid $50 each plus shipping and any paypal fees. Local pick up preferred. 
 Thanks, Bruce in San Diego 310-968-6910

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv handlebars and back pain-your experience?

2015-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Note that (at least with my experience using the Flyer and a couple of wide
sprung models) that spring performance depends in part on the rider's
weight. I tried of Flyer off road after finding a suspension seatpost very
comfortable on washboard (the post, a CODA, was cheap and squeaked and I
returned it), but my 170 lb couldn't make the Flyer's springs flex enough
for comfort. Now of course I ride with less weight on the saddle than some,
so perhaps the Flyer works better with an upright position.

Aside: a Softride stem and a susp seatpost -- both circa 1995 -- were
wonderfully smooth on washboard. But I then discovered fat, soft, 700c off
road tires.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:06 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back in 2012 I somehow started getting low back pain while riding.

 I felt as if lots of road shock was traveling through the bike and into my
 lower back and I would hurt during, but mostly after riding for the rest of
 the day. Thought it was me or a fit problem. I even posted on here about it
 somewhere on the forum.

 Finally, I started using Brooks* sprung saddles*. No more road shock! No
 more pain Working great so far!!! Give it a try. It's amazing how
 the road shock vanishes.

 The road shock doesn't go into my back anymore, because the seat bounces
 ever so gently because of the springs and the shock gets dissipated by the
 springs. All I feel is like I am riding along in a limousine with gentle,
 soft, rising and falling as the springs flex and dispel the road shock,
 instead of the bike transferring it to my low back. I use the Brooks Flyers.

 Might be worth a try for you.

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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-16 Thread EGNolan
It's great to read that you're progressing  that the bike is helping. Much 
of what you write here regarding health, both input (food)  output 
(exercise) gets relayed to my wife as she is dealing w/ chronic issues as 
well. She had her thyroids removed and has been dealing with the same 
chronic problem/acute treatment for the last couple of years. We're just 
now getting back on track and feel like we're moving forward, but having an 
issue like this can be a blessing of its own in that it allows us to see 
past the everyday news and focus on our own healing, our own path in 
life. I'm grateful for a list that provides access to such a diverse group 
of humans.
 
Best,
Eric
Indpls
 

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 2:08:52 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Thanks, Andy, Tim, and Michael! God gets all the credit, the rest of us 
 beggars are just co-sponsors. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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Re: [RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread Jim M.
Riv built only about 80 total Legolas'. The Flickr Legolas group needs more 
contributors:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/legolas/

jim m
wc ca

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:

 and in my size?  zero! until nowhmmmy bank account is asking for 
 someone else to snap this up!

 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Let me count the number of times a Legolas FS listing has come up... ;-) 
 =- Joe Bunik 
 Walnut Creek, CA 

 On 2/16/15, Leslie leslie...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Oh oh oh 
  
  If I didn't already have my canti-Rom 
  
  I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was 
  drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she 
 had 
  one, too... 
  
  Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice. 
  
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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I am so glad some of these nutty (by current society standards) things are 
helpful, Eric (or at least worth trying out). My wife had her thyroid 
removed when she was nine (thyroid cancer), and she recently shifted from 
Synthroid to WP Thyroid. She could talk up all the benefits, but basically 
it provides real, whole thyroid and from organic animals and I'm not sure 
what all else is better about it. She raves about it being much better than 
the synthetic. The dosing schedule provided by the company (if you're on x 
amount of Synthroid, then take x amount of WP) was significantly off, way 
too low for my wife, but one she got the dose right, Hey presto!

With abandon,
Patrick (who ran without any biking today to avoid going splat on the ice 
formed under the 10 of snow so far today. What a blast out there!)

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
So trying to justify this. A size small, but I could make it work sort
of a thing. Steerer unfortunately cut too low.  But I'm mostly okay with
big angle stems. Could sell the road that I don't ride so much, get this,
have a flexy-tubed big tire bike... AH!

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:

 Riv built only about 80 total Legolas'. The Flickr Legolas group needs
 more contributors:
 https://www.flickr.com/groups/legolas/

 jim m
 wc ca


 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:

 and in my size?  zero! until nowhmmmy bank account is asking for
 someone else to snap this up!

 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Let me count the number of times a Legolas FS listing has come up... ;-)
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA

 On 2/16/15, Leslie leslie...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh oh oh
 
  If I didn't already have my canti-Rom
 
  I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was
  drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she
 had
  one, too...
 
  Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice.
 
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

2015-02-16 Thread William deRosset
Hi, All,

The relevant reflective/conspicuity vest standard for cycling is EN 1150, 
not EN 1173. I apparently have a random-number generator for a memory.

Best,

Will

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 10:59:14 AM UTC-7, William deRosset wrote:

 Dear Matthew,

 I have noticed joggers have taken up the neon vest in some numbers 
 locally, and a few of the local commuters have as well. 

 I look forward to the day when, in addition to s/he was/wasn't wearing a 
 helmet, we'll get to read s/he was/wasn't wearing reflective anklebands 
 and a safety vest conforming to ANSI standards in our local newspaper's 
 online edition.

 The EU countries have road regulations requiring reflective gear be used 
 by cyclists after dark outside of urban areas (conforming to EN1173 or 
 higher), which have been in place since (around) 2010. The military 
 requires motorcyclists (another group with serious SMIDSY problems on the 
 road) to wear ANSI vests, and has for thirty years now.

 I've not seen any data indicating that these requirements have changed 
 crash rates. Has anyone seen a study?

 We don't tend to wear safety gear for activities that we consider normal, 
 ordinary and not dangerous, regardless of the actual risks involved. 
 Danger (perceived risk of an event) doesn't necessarily map well to risk 
 (probability of an event).

 Consequently, we get obese and tolerate distracted driving but we aren't 
 embarrassed to hassle cyclists who aren't equipped with our personal 
 standard for safety gear; this latter behavior extends well beyond the 
 cycling community. 

 Disclosure: I've been hit by a distracted teen driver in my non-chartreuse 
 automobile while waiting at a stoplight. I was not wearing a reflective 
 vest nor was I wearing a crash helmet at the time. 

 Best Regards,

 Will
 William M. deRosset
 Fort Collins, CO


 On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 I don't understand why more cyclists don't use safety vests - either 
 cheap ones like the Ikea or more pricey purpose made Nathans and the like.  

 My Nathan has a loud neon green base that stands out in the day time and 
 reflective stripes that really catch the light in the evening.  The 
 material is light and packable enough there is no problem stuffing it into 
 my bag or even a pocket when I reach my destination.  

 Safety vests afford cyclists the luxury or wearing whatever color they 
 prefer while still being conspicuous on the bike,



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[RBW] Re: Riv handlebars and back pain-your experience?

2015-02-16 Thread shawn m.
Sadly, I am entirely too familiar with the issue of back pain. In 2013, I 
ruptured my L5-S1 disc badly enough to require surgery to prevent permanent 
disability. The MRI I had prior to surgery identified non-trivial problems 
all along my spine; annular tears in two discs, bulged disks in two more. 
Good times. What this all means for riding is that, so far, I have been 
unable to ride pain free. I have 3 bikes now, a 54 Hunqapillar with Boscos, 
a 56 Atlantis with Noodles, and Brompton... an embarrassment of riches, as 
they say. I had a bike fit by my physical therapist with the Hunqapillar, 
and was surprised to learned that I had the fit pretty dialed. She 
recommended a little more back angle, since the Boscos have my spine almost 
vertical. My Atlantis with the drops puts me forward a lot more. As things 
are right now, I can ride the Hunqapillar for a long time (hours) before 
the ache sets in. On the Atlantis, I get about 90 minutes, tops. I really 
like having drops on the Atlantis, so, I'm going to experiment with moving 
the bars up, and maybe a shorter stem, to reduce my back angle. On the 
Hunqapillar, I'm going back to albatross bars because when I last had them 
on I was able to ride a 100+ mile day on a short tour just 3 months 
post-op. Sure, I hurt like hell, but I figured I was going to hurt like 
hell after a 100 miles regardless. It sucks to have a bad back, but with 
enough Vitamin I and some finesse dialing in the fit, I can still ride as 
much as I want to. I hope I can still say that when I take on the Northern 
Tier in 2016...

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:12:05 PM UTC-8, K Griffin wrote:

 Your experience and the explanation sounds reasonable.  In this case, the 
 former is probably more important, as each of us is slightly different. 
  Even if there were a strong anatomic reason why more vertical than 45 deg 
 would be best your body may not have read the same textbook from which 
 the experts have learned.  I'm fortunate not to have the disc issue, but 
 when I have lower back spasms (typically with my prior job), the two things 
 that would really make it feel better would be riding my bike or swimming. 
 My position would be with raised bars compared to most road bikes, but 
 still over far enough to put a nice, natural lean without having to crank 
 my neck to see past my wheel.  

 Kurt Griffin
 Sioux Falls, SD


 alan lavine ciga...@gmail.com javascript:: Feb 15 11:56AM -0800 

 Hello All...Thought I would share this, as I'm sure I'm not the only 
 mature cyclist with intermittent low back pain. I have a small disc 
 herniation at L4-L5 level that protrudes posteriorly and compresses the 
 nerve root as it exits the vertebral column. My first response was, well 
 Grant was right, now I have to be more upright on the bike. Not a problem 
 for a chronic cockpit changer like me, anyway...is there a bar I haven't 
 tried? Doubt it.
  
 So I put Albatross bars on the Ram, also tried porter bars on another bike,
  
 experimenting with various bar heights as well. THIS MADE THINGS WORSE! I 
 went to moustache and albastache bars, with a shorter stem, bars level with
  
 the seat, and did much better. The neurologist explained it: with your 
 back bent forward at a gentle angle, 45 degree angle of trunk to 
 horizontal, the vertebral column is bent in a way that opens up the 
 posterior (back) aspect of the column and helps to relieve the compression
  
 of the nerve root. An upright posture is more like a series of blocks one 
 on top of another and all the force is directed straight down, compressing
  
 things further.
  
 I realize this scenario is specific to my particular anatomy but I'm 
 curious to hear about others' experiences with this issue. How has your 
 riding changed as Father Time marches on?
  
 Alan




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Re: [RBW] (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread Mike Williams
Nice nice set up man!!

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 17, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a 
 try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most comfortable 
 bars I've tried yet.
 
 After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel like 
 I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher pace when 
 being so upright, but that's ok. 
 
 Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the river 
 and through the forest. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Micro Winter Project: Plasti-Dipped shifters

2015-02-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I'd love to see you gob that stuff on the brake levers, then do a custom 
mold (of your fingers grabbin the levers)... 

I gotta find me some funky Plasti-Dip colors to do a retro paintjob on my 
chrome Mongo ATB... Uh huh, gonna GIT my Plasti-Dip on!!


On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 10:57:07 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I've got a more substantial project on the horizon to make home-made 
 shifter booties.  I don't have a whole lot to share about that, but I went 
 ahead and did a little proof of concept mini-project and dipped my Suntour 
 Sprint retrofriction shifters in two coats of Plasti-Dip.  This is a rubber 
 product you buy at the hardware store to make handles for your tools.  
 Anyway:

 Before https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15859930641

 And, of course:

 AFTER https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15935987643

 Clearly this will make me ride much faster


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Re: [RBW] FS? Riv Road, frame/fork, 52cm, Joe/Joe

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
That way everyone is happy!!! :-)

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 Yes, double top tube.  It's removable, too

 Mark
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[RBW] Re: Micro Winter Project: Plasti-Dipped shifters

2015-02-16 Thread lungimsam
Looks very nice.
Nice stem too!
Plastic dipping brake levers might enable any type of glove use. Not just 
gloves with grip strips on the fingers.

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[RBW] FS? Riv Road, frame/fork, 52cm, Joe/Joe

2015-02-16 Thread Mark R.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1O-36lXzlxg/VOKCW28bVjI/Ajs/shjyetMUPbw/s1600/cc156r2-1blueriv.jpg
Putting out feelers, maybe someone is looking for a Riv like this and maybe 
I just am ready to let her go!


2001, Joe Starck built, Joe Bell painted, all Reynolds (mostly 753, but 
some 725 and 531 for good measure).  Framesavered when new, and a few other 
times too, I am fastidious about my bikes.  Always stored indoors, and even 
though it was the cream of the crop of my bikes, it always shared my butt 
with several other bikes (that does not sound right LOL)
It sat in a room from 2005 to 2010, I had another Riv for that time.  

52 c to top, 54 c to c top tube, Sovereign blue, short reach brakes, single 
eyelets, vertical dropouts, Chris King headset, matching Silca pump.

No dents, dings, never ridden in rain, no rust, never wore fenders.  One 
small chip on build up that I covered immediately, and two rub marks from 
cables on headtube before I discovered rubber covers for bar con cables.  
Duh.


Takes a 32 c tire if you want, I ride it mostly with 28s.  I am the 
original owner and have full build sheet.
72.5 parallel angles, chainstay 43.

My PBH is 77, saddle height 67.8.

Frame/fork/headset/pump $1500, full Dura Ace mix bike $3000, we can talk 
about shipping or intermediate builds between bare frame and full bike. 
(that is not the current build)

ping me off list

Mark 
www.youtube.com/howtostretch
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[RBW] (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread Mark Reimer
I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a 
try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most 
comfortable bars I've tried yet.

After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel like 
I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher pace 
when being so upright, but that's ok. 

Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the river 
and through the forest. 

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hE9dN6M7AxQ/VOKZXfnCsYI/JyM/34UbSidg3Lk/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-4.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kJN7UKAlRFs/VOKZpqPCJfI/JyU/NqWtNbBJBd8/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-9.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqKpkfkbdbc/VOKaPaQZqOI/Jyc/DzY5Grm2U7Q/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-15.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t9zTYZOg1M0/VOKbGpSRObI/Jyo/3ts7xGzNs0c/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-18.jpg

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[RBW] Re: (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread Jeffrey Marco
Beautiful photo's, an Atlantis with an Albatross just looks right. I'd ride 
it.


On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a 
 try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most 
 comfortable bars I've tried yet.

 After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel 
 like I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher 
 pace when being so upright, but that's ok. 

 Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the 
 river and through the forest. 


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hE9dN6M7AxQ/VOKZXfnCsYI/JyM/34UbSidg3Lk/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-4.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kJN7UKAlRFs/VOKZpqPCJfI/JyU/NqWtNbBJBd8/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-9.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqKpkfkbdbc/VOKaPaQZqOI/Jyc/DzY5Grm2U7Q/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-15.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t9zTYZOg1M0/VOKbGpSRObI/Jyo/3ts7xGzNs0c/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-18.jpg



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[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.

2015-02-16 Thread jtallman
Mike,

I am 5'10 with a pbh of 87 and I went with the 58. For me, either size 
would work. I too bought mine without a test ride, though I had a 56 Sam 
Hillborne. I would make the choice based on the handlebar you intend to 
use. Drop bars - go with the 54 for the shorter top tube. MTB or swept back 
bars - go with the 58.

Jon

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:47:13 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote:

 I have been eyeing the Hunqapillar for a few years and have decided to I 
 need to take a step closer to actually getting one: determining my size.

 I'm a hair under 6' tall, and not sure if I qualify as long-legged or 
 not. PBH is 90. Pretty sure I'd be perfect for a 56 Hunq, but since that 
 little dream boat doesn't exist and I can't spring for a custom, I need to 
 figure out which one of the available models fits me best. 

 That being said, is there anyone on the list in Austin, TX who would be 
 able to let me test-ride your 54 or 58 Hunq?

 Thanks, all.

 - Mike in Austin


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[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.

2015-02-16 Thread Braxton Colagross
My PBH is 87.5 and my primary bike is a 54 Hunq. It sounds to me like you 
should go for the 58. The Hunqapillar's geometry means a long top tube so 
your stem/bar combination could also affect your decision. 

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 5:47:13 PM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote:

 I have been eyeing the Hunqapillar for a few years and have decided to I 
 need to take a step closer to actually getting one: determining my size.

 I'm a hair under 6' tall, and not sure if I qualify as long-legged or 
 not. PBH is 90. Pretty sure I'd be perfect for a 56 Hunq, but since that 
 little dream boat doesn't exist and I can't spring for a custom, I need to 
 figure out which one of the available models fits me best. 

 That being said, is there anyone on the list in Austin, TX who would be 
 able to let me test-ride your 54 or 58 Hunq?

 Thanks, all.

 - Mike in Austin


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
Like!

Or maybe it's because I have the same set up and love it! :-)

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Before: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16345788129/

 After: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16553860631/

 Still need to add a rack, basket and a shopville bag.

 Oh, and that fenderline ...

 On Friday, 13 February 2015 10:00:08 UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:

 Aw snap. Now you tell me! :)

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Re: [RBW] FS? Riv Road, frame/fork, 52cm, Joe/Joe

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
It has a double top tube!!! :-)

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Mark R. markrosenber...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1O-36lXzlxg/VOKCW28bVjI/Ajs/shjyetMUPbw/s1600/cc156r2-1blueriv.jpg
 Putting out feelers, maybe someone is looking for a Riv like this and
 maybe I just am ready to let her go!


 2001, Joe Starck built, Joe Bell painted, all Reynolds (mostly 753, but
 some 725 and 531 for good measure).  Framesavered when new, and a few other
 times too, I am fastidious about my bikes.  Always stored indoors, and even
 though it was the cream of the crop of my bikes, it always shared my butt
 with several other bikes (that does not sound right LOL)
 It sat in a room from 2005 to 2010, I had another Riv for that time.

 52 c to top, 54 c to c top tube, Sovereign blue, short reach brakes,
 single eyelets, vertical dropouts, Chris King headset, matching Silca pump.

 No dents, dings, never ridden in rain, no rust, never wore fenders.  One
 small chip on build up that I covered immediately, and two rub marks from
 cables on headtube before I discovered rubber covers for bar con cables.
 Duh.


 Takes a 32 c tire if you want, I ride it mostly with 28s.  I am the
 original owner and have full build sheet.
 72.5 parallel angles, chainstay 43.

 My PBH is 77, saddle height 67.8.

 Frame/fork/headset/pump $1500, full Dura Ace mix bike $3000, we can talk
 about shipping or intermediate builds between bare frame and full bike.
 (that is not the current build)

 ping me off list

 Mark
 www.youtube.com/howtostretch
 SDCA


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Re: [RBW] Micro Winter Project: Plasti-Dipped shifters

2015-02-16 Thread James Warren

It could cause you to ride more.

Nice!


On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 
 Clearly this will make me ride much faster
 

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[RBW] Re: (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Great photos, man that bike looks great.   Looks like you had a nice ride!

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-16 Thread Jim Bronson
Interesting.  It doesn't sweep back nearly as much as the albas or
Albastache.
On Feb 16, 2015 9:31 PM, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Before: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16345788129/

 After: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16553860631/

 Still need to add a rack, basket and a shopville bag.

 Oh, and that fenderline ...

 On Friday, 13 February 2015 10:00:08 UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:

 Aw snap. Now you tell me! :)

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[RBW] Re: (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Your Harlequin-Grips are superb!  APPROVE! 

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 5:36:58 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a 
 try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most 
 comfortable bars I've tried yet.

 After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel 
 like I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher 
 pace when being so upright, but that's ok. 

 Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the 
 river and through the forest. 


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hE9dN6M7AxQ/VOKZXfnCsYI/JyM/34UbSidg3Lk/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-4.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kJN7UKAlRFs/VOKZpqPCJfI/JyU/NqWtNbBJBd8/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-9.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqKpkfkbdbc/VOKaPaQZqOI/Jyc/DzY5Grm2U7Q/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-15.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t9zTYZOg1M0/VOKbGpSRObI/Jyo/3ts7xGzNs0c/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-18.jpg



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[RBW] WTB: Edelux

2015-02-16 Thread Eric Norris
Anybody have an extra silver Edelux (standard mounting) that you don't need?

Eric N
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[RBW] Re: (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread WETH
Fabulous photos. Glad the Albatross bars are working.

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[RBW] (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread Pondero
Celebrate the albatrossed Atlantis brotherhood!  Gosh, they're comfy!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread hsmitham
Hey Mark,

The Atlantis looks exactly right. I can't imagine my Atlantis ever going back 
to drops. I like my Albastache on the Hilsen but you nailed it! The Albatross 
are luxurious. As Chris said welcome to the Albatrossed brotherhood.

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-16 Thread Amit Singh
Before: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16345788129/

After: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16553860631/

Still need to add a rack, basket and a shopville bag.

Oh, and that fenderline ... 

On Friday, 13 February 2015 10:00:08 UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:

 Aw snap. Now you tell me! :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-16 Thread Abcyclehank
Amit,

What length stem is that with the new bar?  Seriously cold here in Michigan the 
last few days, even kept me off the Moonlander the last 3 days.  Suppose to get 
up to the teens tomorrow; so I should be comfortable enough to get out for a 
ride to the beach.

Ryan
Spring Lake, MI

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[RBW] Micro Winter Project: Plasti-Dipped shifters

2015-02-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
I've got a more substantial project on the horizon to make home-made 
shifter booties.  I don't have a whole lot to share about that, but I went 
ahead and did a little proof of concept mini-project and dipped my Suntour 
Sprint retrofriction shifters in two coats of Plasti-Dip.  This is a rubber 
product you buy at the hardware store to make handles for your tools.  
Anyway:

Before https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15859930641

And, of course:

AFTER https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15935987643

Clearly this will make me ride much faster

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Re: [RBW] (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
Exactly what has been said, but again for emphasis!!!

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Mike Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Nice nice set up man!!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 17, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a
 try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most
 comfortable bars I've tried yet.

 After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel
 like I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher
 pace when being so upright, but that's ok.

 Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the
 river and through the forest.


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hE9dN6M7AxQ/VOKZXfnCsYI/JyM/34UbSidg3Lk/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-4.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kJN7UKAlRFs/VOKZpqPCJfI/JyU/NqWtNbBJBd8/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-9.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqKpkfkbdbc/VOKaPaQZqOI/Jyc/DzY5Grm2U7Q/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-15.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t9zTYZOg1M0/VOKbGpSRObI/Jyo/3ts7xGzNs0c/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-18.jpg

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Re: [RBW] FS? Riv Road, frame/fork, 52cm, Joe/Joe

2015-02-16 Thread Mark R.
Yes, double top tube.  It's removable, too

Mark
Www.youtube.com/howtostretch
SDCA

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[RBW] Re: Velo News on Bike Weight

2015-02-16 Thread Kyle Brooks
I read that article on VeloNews -- really just an excerpt from the book, 
Faster which is one I think I'd like to read. In any case, I wrote 
something about this idea on The Retrogrouch Blog last year. Not 
scientific, but just a comparison between two of my own bikes and my 
commute to work. The two bikes are pretty similar, but one is loaded up 
with bags, racks, fenders, lights, etc. all of which probably adds 15 lbs 
or so. I normally use the loaded one for my work commute, and it normally 
takes me about 50 minutes to ride the 13 miles to work. I achieved my best 
time, however, on the lighter bike -- 45 minutes for the same commute. 
However, that day, I had also managed to hit nothing but green lights the 
whole way to work. When I managed the same feat, all green lights, with the 
loaded bike, I came awfully close - 46 minutes. Again - it's more anecdotal 
than scientific, but in the end, I concluded that there are probably a lot 
of other things that make more difference than weight, and that being the 
case, it hardly makes sense to obsess about grams. If fenders, or 
racks/bags can improve our comfort and convenience, then they're worth 
whatever weight they add. It seems to me that a lighter bike feels 
faster, but the difference is more perception than reality. 

if interested, here's the link to the full 
article: http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-tale-of-two-bikes.html

Kyle Brooks
Akron, OH

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:41:33 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:

 GPP has said as much on the Blug before, but it's nice to see it in the 
 Zeitgiest as well. If a 160 lb rider on a 22lb bike wants a 10% improvement 
 is climbing speed, you need to drop 18 lbs! Going from a Bombadil to a 
 Pinarello Dogma won't get you there. (I don't think. It might be close). 
  Going on a diet and riding a lot of hills will though.


 http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/bike-weight-myth-fast-bikes_339880


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[RBW] Re: Velo News on Bike Weight

2015-02-16 Thread Garth


Enjoy the ride  .  . . . regardless ;-) The funny thing about 
weighting for Perfection - the perfect ride , the perfect moment , the 
perfect bike , the perfect body  .  . . .  . .is that it never really comes 
.  Oh yes . . . it seems to for a little while .  . . . but it quickly 
fades and the  weight continues  . . . . lol .

   Heavvv-vy  . . . . sigh .  .  . . .  

   Fear not . .  . . fear nothing !   

 Ever noticed . . .  in Love . .  . .  time stands still and is ever 
wait-less ?Material-ity feels weight-less ? Yes . .  .  .  to 
ride for the Love of BEing Life itself nothing matters but the Joy of it .  

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[RBW] FS: new Riv black cap and twofish pump holder

2015-02-16 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
I just received a black Riv cap too, and like you it fit odd on my narrow 
melon. Confused since it's the same Pace cap as all my others. 

I took a gamble and threw it in the wash on a hot setting and dried itnow 
it fits great. YMMV but for me it shrunk out the excessive depth of the thing. 
I could pull it down over my ears prior. 

I think it's the best looking hat the e ever done so if the wash didn't work, I 
was going to tailor it on the sewing machine!

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[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen's views on mountain bike development?

2015-02-16 Thread Tim Gavin
Wow, thanks for that link!  I see the Man, Ned Overend in that issue, 
riding a Paramountain.  And there's a Paramountain review in the May/June 
issue http://cbklunkers.com/pdf/mayjune_1987.pdf (as well as a 3-page ad 
on the '87 MB-1). 

I have a Schwinn KOM-10, which is what they branded the Paramountain for 
'88 after Ned left for Specialized.  A fantastic post-klunker MTB, like 
Grant's MB series.  In fact, I have drops on mine like the '87 MB-1.

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 8:31:44 PM UTC-6, Wildcat96 wrote:

 http://cbklunkers.com/pdf/julyaug_1986.pdf 

 Check out the ad and review for the 86 MB-1 on pages 27 and 35.  The ad 
 reads like something Grant could write and I believe this was the first 
 bike Grant had some influence on.  I have a 87 MB-2 and love the way it 
 rides.  I caught Grant on the phone one day and mentioned that I had an 87 
 MB-2.  IIRC, he did say that the 86 MB-1 and 87 MB-1 (DirtDrops) and 87 
 MB-2 were the first bikes he had a hand in after arriving at Bridgestone. 
  Maybe he'll chime in on this thread.

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[RBW] Re: Riv handlebars and back pain-your experience?

2015-02-16 Thread stevef
I had lower back pain from having my saddle too far back.  Moving closer to 
KOPS helped--it may not work for everyone but it seems to work for me...

Steve 

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 2:56:57 PM UTC-5, alan lavine wrote:

 Hello All...Thought I would share this, as I'm sure I'm not the only 
 mature cyclist with intermittent low back pain.  I have a small disc 
 herniation at L4-L5 level that protrudes posteriorly and compresses the 
 nerve root as it exits the vertebral column.  My first response was, well 
 Grant was right, now I have to be more upright on the bike.  Not a problem 
 for a chronic cockpit changer like me, anyway...is there a bar I haven't 
 tried? Doubt it.

 So I put Albatross bars on the Ram, also tried porter bars on another 
 bike, experimenting with various bar heights as well.  THIS MADE THINGS 
 WORSE!  I went to moustache and albastache bars, with a shorter stem, bars 
 level with the seat, and did much better.  The neurologist explained it: 
 with your back bent forward at a gentle angle, 45 degree angle of trunk to 
 horizontal, the vertebral column is bent in a way that opens up the 
 posterior (back) aspect of the column and helps to relieve the compression 
 of the nerve root.  An upright posture is more like a series of blocks one 
 on top of another and all the force is directed straight down, compressing 
 things further.

 I realize this scenario is specific to my particular anatomy but I'm 
 curious to hear about others' experiences with this issue.  How has your 
 riding changed as Father Time marches on?

 Alan


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[RBW] Re: Velo News on Bike Weight

2015-02-16 Thread Peter Adler
If that 160 lb rider is much over 5'6, dropping to 142 lb will not improve 
his climbing speed. It may, however, prevent him from being able to get out 
of bed.

Peter Adler
who at the age of 18 went from 155 lb to 119 lb with undiagnosed Type 1 
diabetes, and was most definitely *not* stronger when he finally crawled 
into an ER in
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 5:41:33 AM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:

 GPP has said as much on the Blug before, but it's nice to see it in the 
 Zeitgiest as well. If a 160 lb rider on a 22lb bike wants a 10% improvement 
 is climbing speed, you need to drop 18 lbs! Going from a Bombadil to a 
 Pinarello Dogma won't get you there. (I don't think. It might be close). 
  Going on a diet and riding a lot of hills will though.


 http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/bike-weight-myth-fast-bikes_339880


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