[RBW] Aloha to Erl (Apologies to the list)

2015-07-10 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Aloha everyone, Erl especially.

First, my apologies to the list for sending a personal message this way -
my email doesn't seem to be getting through to Erl and I'm hoping this
makes it through.

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Erl, Im off on the ride you suggested. I'm sorry my email wasn't getting
through to you and hope I didn't disturb your plans. Thanks again for the
offer. My phone number was in one of the emails I sent, feel free to give
me a call.

Mahalo,

Bob



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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-10 Thread EGNolan
If memory serves CoMotion did the final bike w/ tandem tubes for that bike. 
This crown could be used on multiple projects, but would make a lot of 
sense for both a rough stuff tall bike  a tandem. I suppose we'll have to 
wait for G to enlighten us, though.

Best,
Eric

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:18:19 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:

 I am pretty sure that another company took over that Bison project and saw 
 it to completion.




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[RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-10 Thread William deRosset
Dear Joe,

Check the reach of the bars. The noodles are a pretty-normal 90mm reach, 
140mm drop. If the Salsa bars have a shorter reach, then the levers will be 
farther away on the noodle than they were on the Salsa. In practice, I use 
the bulge-formed noodle bar and the Compass 1970's bend bars(115/125). I 
have to adjust the stem length, but they're both lovely bars with Ergo and 
Doubletap levers.

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 5:34:26 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
 years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for a 
 while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried years 
 ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were 
 44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with 
 a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit 
 long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 

 Thanks,
 Joe click click Bernard
 Vallejo, CA. 


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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-10 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Congrats!  Where in VA?  In the DC Metro area there is a pretty good sized 
Riv community...

So long as you have fenders on the bike the mud/slime will stay off the 
more important parts pretty much on its own.  Mud/Slime is just a badge of 
honor in my books anyway but this has been a very wet year.  Generally if 
I'm bringing the Saluki in wet I give it a light wipe down with a shop rag 
just to get the worst of the standing water off.  But sometimes I let it 
sit a couple days.  

Good luck w/ the new Chev, I haven't ridden one myself but they look 
fabulous!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-10 Thread Tony DeFilippo
What a line up!  I can heartily endorse the 56 Bombadil for anyone on the 
fence, I love mine. (PBH ~90).  With drops it rides very similar to my 60cm 
Saluki...

The Gunnar and Black Mountain look like awesome bikes to and that 58 Hilsen 
tacked on at the end is a screaming deal.  There will be some happy new 
bike owners off this sale!

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[RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-10 Thread mm fs
My Ultegra 6700 work well with my 46cm Noodles - I love them!

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:34:26 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
 years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for a 
 while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried years 
 ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were 
 44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with 
 a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit 
 long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 

 Thanks,
 Joe click click Bernard
 Vallejo, CA. 


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[RBW] FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-10 Thread Daniel Jackson
Hey Bill, If you don't mind my asking, what's your height and PBH?

Thanks,
D. 

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Re: [RBW] Seattle-to-Portland this weekend?

2015-07-10 Thread Chris Chen
Babyshoe Pass!

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Andy Williams awilliam...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Good to know that there will be a couple of fellow travelers on the
 route.  I'm well aware of the potential for carnage and cluster*!$$#@@# at
 the beginning of the route, as well as the examples of bad behavior and
 poor manners all the way to Portland.

 When I ride STP, I wonder why I do it.   When I don't, I miss it.   Go
 figure.

 Andy


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Re: [RBW] encomium of SaddleSack Medium as a daily commute bag

2015-07-10 Thread Chris Chen
Classy!

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean 
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote:

 I typically ride my bike a short distance (1-5 miles) to a train, then a
 train 40-50 minutes into work.

 Recently I've settled into using my SaddleSack Medium as my daily commute
 bag. On a normal day it's pretty empty; lunch, hat, minimal gear don't
 really challenge it. (I store tube/tools/etc separately.) But it also
 swallows up rain cape  splats, additional snacks/tea/coffee, gloves, extra
 layers, general cargo, and still has room for a laptop when needed. The
 side pockets are great for wallet/phone/glasses/keys, which remain mid-ride
 accessible.

 In the past few weeks the ACW mug has become my go-to drinking
 vessel while on the train. It's just the right size to allow me to control
 temperature better than my large Klean Kanteen source container. And
 it better supports actual open-air sipping, which somehow has more appeal
 than sippy-top containers when I'm seated stably on a train. And it dries
 well hanging from the SaddleSack.

 The Nitto saddlebag grip is of course a vital component of the system.
 (Need to find a silver acorn for this one.)


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZa9RU854vs/VZ6bv-V0yQI/AO4/sO2EkcApkNg/s1600/SSMACW.jpg

 I'm glad I was able to score a tan SaddleSack. Among the colors RBW has
 offered over the years, it remains my favorite.

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Re: Post Surgery Therapy

2015-07-10 Thread Chris Chen
It definitely looks like the BM mount made mated with the cygolite mount!

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.com wrote:

 To take a shot at answering my own question...is it an Edelux Light Mount
 like on the Riv site? If so, then my next question...is that a Cygolite
 mount on it? That's what I want to do; mount a Cygolite on my Mark's rack
 like that. What did you have to do to make that work?

 Doug


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 3:30:39 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:

 What is the light holder attached to your front rack and where did you
 get it?
 Thanks,

 Doug

 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 1:22:17 PM UTC-7, David Person wrote:

 Changed the cockpit over to Albatrosses this past week.  I'm enjoying
 the more upright position and the location of the bar-end shifters.  An
 added benefit is the shifters are now higher than the top tube, so no more
 banging of the bar-ends on the it.  The Linus is a new addition for my wife.



 On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 7:14:18 AM UTC-7, David Person wrote:

 I've had a pair of Nitto B115 drop bars hang around (literally) for a
 couple of years begging to be put to use.  I was inspired by an old Kohler
 faucet commercial (the one where a couple wants a house designed around a
 faucet).  So I've designed a bike build around these bars.  Had back
 surgery at the end of December and recently was released to do PT, so it
 was time to put this bike together.  I have to give a shout out to Pondero,
 Stonehog and a few others who's blogs kept me sane and inspired during the
 first few months after surgery, when I seriously doubted I'd ever ride
 again.  I rode six miles yesterday, which is the most so far, but to far to
 go to get back to the riding shape I was in a couple years ago.

 Additional photos can be found in my Flickr album:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/98035479@N08/sets/72157653847408849/with/18432114739/

 Going to experiment with some Nitto Albatross bars too.  Got to keep a
 promise I made to Keven at Rivendell when I ordered the frame.

 David
 So. Cal


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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

2015-07-10 Thread cyclotourist
Thank you Eunice. I'm glad to read about and see the good people you have there.

I have amazed by the random people that I've met online that knew
Seth. Simple things like selling something on Craigslist, or posting
on a mountain bike forum. A person will ask me Did you know Seth?
I'll sheepishly reply that I only knew him online and not in real
life.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:26 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 Eunice:

 Thanks for taking the time to assembly those photos  post.  It's wonderful
 that a ride of remembrance continues.  It's said that so long as a person is
 remembered, that person is still with us.

 dougP


 On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:15:20 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:

 I've been meaning to write this since last year.

 Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed in
 a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride
 reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides.

 I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the
 group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very,
 very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but
 different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd
 contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your
 support, intentional or not.

 I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his
 Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the
 memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)

 The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the
 neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike was,
 have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along Ellerbee
 Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The most
 amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost bike,
 traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but since
 it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).

 I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode really
 fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the
 tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to break
 the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride the day
 before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the ride. I
 apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me down to
 make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow down. It's
 not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines.

 And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera with
 the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left at
 the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855

 Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach.

 -Eunice still enjoying the ride Chang






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[RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

2015-07-10 Thread dougP
Eunice:

Thanks for taking the time to assembly those photos  post.  It's wonderful 
that a ride of remembrance continues.  It's said that so long as a person 
is remembered, that person is still with us.  

dougP

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:15:20 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:

 I've been meaning to write this since last year.

 Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed in 
 a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride 
 reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides. 

 I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the 
 group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very, 
 very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but 
 different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd 
 contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your 
 support, intentional or not. 

 I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his 
 Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the 
 memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)

 The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the 
 neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike 
 was,  have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along 
 Ellerbee Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The 
 most amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost 
 bike, traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but 
 since it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).

 I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode really 
 fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the 
 tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to break 
 the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride the 
 day before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the 
 ride. I apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me 
 down to make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow 
 down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines. 

 And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera with 
 the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left at 
 the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855

 Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach. 

 -Eunice still enjoying the ride Chang








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[RBW] ride of remembrance

2015-07-10 Thread Eunice Chang
I've been meaning to write this since last year.

Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed in
a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride
reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides.

I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the
group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very,
very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but
different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd
contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your
support, intentional or not.

I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his
Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the
memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)

The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the
neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike
was,  have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along
Ellerbee Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The
most amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost
bike, traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but
since it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).

I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode really
fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the
tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to break
the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride the
day before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the
ride. I apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me
down to make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow
down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines.

And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera with
the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left at
the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855

Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach.

-Eunice still enjoying the ride Chang

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[RBW] Re: Rivet review?

2015-07-10 Thread Eileen Lloyd
My Brooks B17 is only good for up to 300K rides but the Rivet has worked 
for 400+ and 600K rides including one weekend of a 500K followed the next 
weekend by a 600K.  Unlike Brooks, you don't need to use a seat cover on 
Rivets for rainy day brevets.
Eileen

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 at 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review?  
 I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build.  I just took 
 it out for the shake-down ride to work today.  It was a smooth ride!  
 Thumbs up so far.  I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to 
 a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub.  
 Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right.  

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m
 Brian 
 Seattle, WA


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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-10 Thread RDS
Thanks for the info.  Does anyone know if the Sugino double or triple is 
Shimano STI shifter compatable?

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 4:37:29 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote:

 yes, works fine.  The set up you describe is working well on my Gunnar 
 Crosshairs, commuter.  Pics here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729

 Mine is either 24-40 or 26-40. with an 11-34.  I am able to use the full 
 cassette on the large (40) chainring, but not quite with the small 
 chainring - it gets a little grindy when using the small cogs on the 
 cassette.

 good luck

 Max B


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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-10 Thread Thomas B
+1 for MAP/Ahearne Bars.

Mine are on an Atlantis.

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[RBW] Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-10 Thread Alohashirt
In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 

But I've never read a word of complaint or buyer's remorse about Rivs. The 
love owners seem to have for these bikes is unusual, so I decided it was 
worth parting with nearly $3K of my hard-earned dollars to get the Chev. I 
could have thoroughly pimped out a Clementine for much less, but I totally 
fell for the lugs, the lines, and the whole package.

I'm in my early 50's, live in Virginia, and ride for the pure joy of it on 
paved paths and gravel trails. I'm all for beusage, but want to keep the 
occasional mud and slime off the important parts. Any tips for how best to 
keep it un-crapified?

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[RBW] Re: IRD Thumbshifters and Quill shift mount questions

2015-07-10 Thread Arthur Mayfield
My experience is with the IRD stem mount and a couple of single cranksets 
on my Sam... Yes, you can move your thumb shifter(s) to the stem mount, 
although you'll have to disconnect the cable (because of the cable 
adjusters on the thumb mount and stem mount). If you want to just run the 
RD, I wouldn't bother with the stem mount, however. My favorite orientation 
(there are several options on the stem mount) has the cable housing and 
adjuster pointed down, almost parallel to the head tube, and this is pretty 
much how it would point if you mounted the right thumb shifter on the 
quill. This orientation uses the shortest amount of housing—Make sure 
you're careful to give it just enough without leaving an oversized 
loop/S-curve in the cable. Using the shortest cable housing you can will 
give a very crisp, positive shifting, similar to downtube shifters. It's 
also a very minimalist, clean look.

As far as running a 1X drivetrain goes, it's important to try to get the 
straightest chainline you can to the middle cog (achieved by choosing the 
right bottom bracket, using a SS/track crankset, etc. Also helps a lot to 
replace the chainring with one designed for single speed/track use, but 
made for 3/32 chain. The teeth will be taller and there won't be any ramps 
or tooth variations like on a derailleur chainring. The chain might still 
bounce off occasionally, especially when you're in the lowest gear. 
Currently, I use a VO Grand Cru 50.4 BCD crank with a 44t single ring on a 
108mm BB. that gives me a perfect chainline to the #5 cog on a 9 spd 
cassette. I mounted a simple Deda Elementi Dog Fang to protect against 
chain derailment to the inside while in low gears, and I've heard it 
working a few times. Previously, I was using an FSA Gimonti track crank 
with a 42t ring and the Dog Fang. If you can't/don't want to do so much 
tinkering, you can get something like the Paul chain guard that adjusts to 
your crank position and fits over the top of the chain and ring to prevent 
derailment. I've done that too. Some people use a bash guard in the outer 
ring spot or file the teeth off the outer ring to keep the chain from 
derailing to the outside, but I haven't had any problem with derailment to 
the outside (the Paul devise prevents inner or outer derailment).

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:

 When I bought my Hillborne from the fine Riv folks I got the Albatross 
 bars with IRD thumbshifters set up. When Brian was building it up he warned 
 me that while those thumbshifters are fantastic (and they are) that it 
 might be better to go with the stem shifter mount or bar ends to give me 
 max amount of positions on the bars.  I really wanted the shifting right by 
 my hands and I don't like bar end shifters that much so I told him it would 
 be fine with the thumbs.  I should learn that the Riv folks really know 
 their stuff because after owning it for almost a year now I have decided 
 that I really feel a bit cramped around the brake area because of the 
 shifters.  Is it possible to remount the IRD shifters onto the quill shift 
 mount? It seems like it should be possible but I am unsure.  My other 
 option is this...I don't use the front shifter at all. I have the wide low 
 double and am always in the larger chainring.  I could always just mount 
 the right thumb shifter onto the quill and just drop the left one 
 completely. I assume that as long as I leave the derailer there I could 
 just remove that shifter completely.  All of this might free me up to more 
 easily switch to moustache bars later if I want to.


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[RBW] Re: wtb: Betty Foy (50cm)

2015-07-10 Thread charlisse c.
Riv definitely made the 50cm Betty, because I have one! They used to make 
47cm/52cm/58cm (and possibly one larger size?), then at some point they 
switched over to 50cm/55cm/60cm sizing. It's similar to the Cheviot sizing now. 

I've seen a couple Betty's come up for sale on this site the past year. If you 
like the Cheviot design I believe the 50cm Betty and Cheviot have the same 
geometry, while the 55cm/60cm Cheviots have longer chainstays than their Betty 
counterparts. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-10 Thread Chris Chen
Hummerpillar?

HAHAHA sorry I couldn't resist

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's not what I was thinking.  A fat bike doesn't need to be more heavy
 duty than a Hunqapilar or a Bombadil.and I do not recall any BLUG or
 Knothole teasers hinting at a fatbike.

 Think harder.needs (really needs) to be more heavy duty than any
 Rivendell ever made, and has been hinted at from time to time.


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 3:16:02 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Right? The only thing preventing Rivendell from doing a fatbike is
 someone got there quicker ;)

 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:58:23 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Is it hard to imagine?   Think harder.  A theoretical Riv model that
 would need to be more heavy duty than a Hunqapilar or a Bombadil.  One that
 has been mentioned in passing from time to time in the BLUG, in a maybe
 we'll do that someday kind of way.  I don't think it's hard at all to
 imagine.

 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 It is hard to imagine that there would be a model more heavy duty than
 the Hunqapillar and Bombadil.  If heavy duty is what you want, now is the
 time!


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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-10 Thread a3inverter
Yes.  I generally agree with Grant on threaded vs. threadless.  My approach 
to riding is not going to require any compromises if I use a threaded stem 
- honestly, I just like to get out there and ride, I don't need to be 
fastest.  The Technomic reference is from my use of them in my lugged steel 
Treks - I have a mile of stem showing on the largest Trek frame they 
made...my expectation (given the sloping TT and giant head tube) is that I 
wouldn't have as much showing on a 63cm San Marcos.

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 4:22:23 PM UTC-4, David Person wrote:

 I looks like the ES is a threadless steerer/headset while the SM is a 1 
 threaded steerer/headset, if that makes a difference to you since you 
 mention the uses of a Technomic.

 On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 8:03:11 AM UTC-7, a3inverter wrote:

 Greetings all,

 I've been interested in the San Marcos (in 63cm) for a year or so now and 
 a combination of some aggressive pricing and available fundage has me very 
 close to buying one, however, would like to hear from the bunch regarding 
 any comparisons to the Soma ES.  The ES is a bit cheaper ($125) and might 
 fit slightly bigger tires.

 My priorities are:
 A comfortable, well-fitting ride - 94cm PBH here and the 25.5in steel 
 Treks that I ride today (460,560,400) have plenty of Technomic showing to 
 get to level saddle and bars
 Room for bigger tires - Room for 38c should do.  I had 29x2's on my 62cm 
 LHT and while the tires could handle anything, the geometry really didn't 
 work for the rough stuff.
 Light-ish - While the LHT did fit, it felt dead and heavy.

 Interested in your feedback...Thanks!





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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-10 Thread 'Shelby Munn' via RBW Owners Bunch
I was saving for a Hunqapillar, but may now be interested in the awaited 
details of the bike built around this crown.

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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-07-10 Thread GRANT @ RIV
Jim was entirely right about that. We had too many dealers, no 
infrastructure for them, and not enough bikes to deliver. Plus, a dealer 
ordinarily gets 30 days or more to pay, and we couldn't afford to offer 
that. So I agree with all he says here. I'm really sorry he's closed, 
though. We've got our cool Hiawatha poster up here and It's strategically 
placed right across the room from me, so I get to look at it every time I 
look up. JIm, we were proud to be in Hiawatha, it is still the coolest bike 
shop name ever, I had a frightfully delicious buffet there once, and good 
luck to you in whatever's next.
Our new dealer search is going slowly, carefully, and in a smaller way. 
We've learned. I am just sorry we made it hard for you, Jim. Didn't deserve 
it!

B,

Grant



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wrote:

 I don't know anything about the shops in your area. But I can tell you 
 that selling Riv presents some extra challenges that only the most 
 passionate of shops will be able to tolerate.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-10 Thread cyclotourist
Ask Elrond to throw some of these on before they ship:
www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe1p55.htm

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congrats!  Where in VA?  In the DC Metro area there is a pretty good sized
 Riv community...

 So long as you have fenders on the bike the mud/slime will stay off the more
 important parts pretty much on its own.  Mud/Slime is just a badge of honor
 in my books anyway but this has been a very wet year.  Generally if I'm
 bringing the Saluki in wet I give it a light wipe down with a shop rag just
 to get the worst of the standing water off.  But sometimes I let it sit a
 couple days.

 Good luck w/ the new Chev, I haven't ridden one myself but they look
 fabulous!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm roughly 5'11.  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH something like 86.5 - 
87cm.  

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:54:24 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Hey Bill, If you don't mind my asking, what's your height and PBH? 

 Thanks, 
 D. 

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[RBW] RIVELO-PDX RIV deler and servicing bikes

2015-07-10 Thread grant

Even tho RIVELO (John) doesn't have a payroll mechanic, it should still be easy 
to get your Rivwhatever worked on. John has an arrangement with at least two 
mechanics, one of them a former mechanic down here at RBW.
 
Also, for better or worse, our bikes operate 100 percent with 40-year old 
technology. Cables work the brakes and derailers, the bottom brackets are 
simple as pie cartridge units, the cranks show their chainring bolts...there's 
minimal and often zero black boxing of the mechanisms. If by some trick the 
rest of us don't know about, you and your bike make it back to 1975, you can 
trust that your Riv bike won't befuddle any bike mechanic. Portland in 2015 
probably has 300 professional good ones, and any good bike mechanic anywhere 
will feel at home tinkering on a Rivendell.
 
Anyway, I'll stick to the main point here, that Rivendell bikes are mechanical 
time machines, so...no problem. Plus, John has 100 percent access to our 
mechanics and all of us here--as will anybody who buys a bike there. We won't 
travel to PDX to find the source of the click you hear, but you're far from 
alone out there!
 
Also, for those of you in the area who haven't been by RIVELO, you should know 
that John is disarmingly casual but knows our bikes through and through. 
Everybody here misses him.

G

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-10 Thread Lungimsam
Congrats!!!
New Rivendells look much better in person, so I think you will be amazed at how 
great it looks when you get it!
Don't worry about sight unseen. Rivbikes are ultra high quality bikes. Some of 
the finest on the planet.

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[RBW] Re: Rivet review?

2015-07-10 Thread Lungimsam
Too bad they don't make a sprung saddle.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Bike Friday New World Tourist and some cheap Chinese electric-assist I found on 
Craigslist, both 20 wheelers; Dahon Curve D3 converted to SRAM Automatix 
2-speed, 16 wheels like Brompton. I've had a few 20 Dahons, too. I'll 
probably end up with a Brompton one of these days, if I can ever find one used 
that isn't almost the price of a new one. Those suckers hold their value like 
Harleys!

Riv content: All my folders sport bags and Brookses purchased from RBW :)

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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-10 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Thanks go to Brian/Stonehog. He's a harlequin master. I enjoyed the 
challenge of it, but won't be doing it again anytime soon.

Liesl-- you're welcome to ride it when you're in town. You choose the h-bar!


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[RBW] Re: Meanwhile in Toranto...

2015-07-10 Thread Kieran J
There are still some decent people left in Canada! :-P

KJ


On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 12:38:37 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:


 http://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/people-in-toronto-created-a-memorial-to-a-dead-raccoon-after?bffbtrendingutm_term=4ldqphx#.wmOnKXK9w


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 Fellow list member's tweet is featured here...

 Also it's hilarious .


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Re: [RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Joe: what sort of folder do you have? I've been dreaming about a Brompton
myself ...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's been huge fun so far. I've had a plethora of 20-inch-wheel folders,
 but this is the first one with drops. It's also the first one which handles
 like a regular bike..very impressive.

 It sounds like y'all are happy with brifters on Noodles, so I'll get my
 order in to Riv. Sorry, it'll be 44cm..I tried 46 on my Romulus and it was
 just a *bit* too wide for my short little arms ;)

 Joe Bernard
 30 minutes from Walnut Creek, CA.

 On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:54:46 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Drop-bar 20-wheeled bikes are a blast... especially when a 46cm
 noodle is involved! 48 should work too, but I've found as I widen my
 bar, I prefer a little less stem (e.g. 1cm shorter than w/ 46 or gasp,
 44).
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA


 On 7/9/15, Call Me Jay callme...@mac.com wrote:
  I have 46cm Noodles with Campy 10 Ergos on my Custom and it seems to
 fit me
 
  fine.  No complaints.
 
  On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:34:26 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
 
  I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10
  years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them
 for
  a
  while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried
  years
  ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars
 were
 
  44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider,
 with
 
  a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a
 bit
 
  long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup?
 
  Thanks,
  Joe click click Bernard
  Vallejo, CA.
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-10 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hmmm... Jeff Bilenky Jones???

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Rear Campee for 700c

2015-07-10 Thread jandrews_nyc
Greetings, 
Curious if anyone on the list has a rear Nitto Campee rack with the 
detachable pannier mounts that they aren't really using and would like to 
move on.
Dialing my SH in for the Adirondack tour next month and I think that will 
suit my needs well.
Thanks
Jason

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[RBW] Re: Meanwhile in Toranto...

2015-07-10 Thread Ron Mc
look at you go Cecily

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 12:21:02 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:

 I'm Buzzfeed famous!

 On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 9:38:37 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:


 http://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/people-in-toronto-created-a-memorial-to-a-dead-raccoon-after?bffbtrendingutm_term=4ldqphx#.wmOnKXK9w


 You ask about Riv content...

 Fellow list member's tweet is featured here...

 Also it's hilarious .


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[RBW] Re: PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

2015-07-10 Thread Johnny Alien
Looks like a 55 to me. 

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-10 Thread sameness
Man, at least light a candle and open some wine first.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote:

 another lurid view:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14752341602/in/album-72157645542691980/

 On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:

 Whoa. Those cranks need to be tagged NSFW.

 Jeff Hagedorn
 Los Angeles, CA USA


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[RBW] Re: PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

2015-07-10 Thread Daniel D.
dang you for outing it :p.  But since it's out there looks to be a 53?  Not 
sure it would fit anyway with my 5'8 79pbh

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 9:54:51 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 This looks legit since it is being sold at Livermore Cyclery.  Seemed like 
 a screaming deal since they are trying to sell it quickly.

 John


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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-07-10 Thread Grant @ Rivendell


 I don't detect MUCH confusion about why we want to open a few dealers, but 
 maybe there's some, so here's the whole thing: Our sales have been about 
 $2.85 million a year for several years straight (a 5-year low of $2.8, and 
 two years of $2.9) I don't know whether that sounds high or low, but what I 
 can say for sure (but at some risk of coming off like a whiner) is that for 
 a company of 12 F/T employees and 6-7 P/Timers, dealing expensive and 
 generally low-margin gear with high development costs and payment terms 
 that tend to crush cash flow--and also, I am happy to say, paying our staff 
 as much as possible and way more than our cpa would like---that $2.9 
 million is not quite sustainable.

I'm 61, not planning any retirement, still totally loving this stuff, and 
looking forward to doing some more hopefully helpful but definitely fun and 
satisfying things.   I believe that our bikes are good enough to reach more 
people. I look at the Sam or Chev and now the Clem and then I look at what 
people are spending in the real world and what they're getting, and I think 
hey, that too small/unsuitable/dangerous/4-year bike that cost way more 
than a Sam is not the perfect bike for you---and yet we can't reach these 
riders all by ourselves, so we need some dealers.
To do dealers right means bending and stretching to work with them on 
their inviolable terms, and hoping they'll bend a little to us (like, 
paying with a credit card before we ship). That is the tuffy. Selling to 
even a small number of dealers requires more cash-available than we ever 
have. We've had an LC of $50,000, and have paid it down to $45,000. I 
recently talked to our bank about getting more, and we're getting another 
$100,000 out of it, but even that's not enough to let us proceed with our 
tempered, realistic plans for 2016. We need another $50K, and we've 
borrowed already too many times from friends, the occasional employee 
(always paid back on schedule), my own home equity (may never be paid 
back), and now we need and are getting some bank help, but not enough.
The Big Plan (by our measure) is to have four models in stock most of 2016: 
Sam, CLEM, Chev, and a new Tourishy bike with that wild new crown. Plus 
finally, I want to have 20 tandems, complete in the box. Like Clemdems, 
To me, for us, it seems outrageous and risky, but it is definitely not as 
risky as staying the way we are. The bikes won't suffer, they'll continue 
to improve. There's no change in philosophy or anything like that. We're 
sticking to our guns (although allowing more TIGGING than before).  But 
yes, those four bikes are going to help us, and we're getting a few dealers 
slowly and carefully. We've got one refusal from a dealer I really wanted 
and thought would for sure go for it (longtime friend); but it's not 
happening, so o well. We're opening up at most 10 by the end of the year. 
It may be seven. Will's doing it, with some guidance from me, retrieved 
from that decade at Bstone... We're nearly full of dealers. I want one in 
Marin, maybe Oak/SF, for sure the TC, since I have a daughter in college 
there (she rides a Trek steel converted mtn bike with fenders, rack, and 
Bosco bars, which she loves. She should be on a CLEM. Her Glorius is here 
at home--am not going to sacrifice another one of those to the Twin Cities 
bike thieves).
Anyway...things are fine, changes are in the air, and let me say 
sincerely--and not as a trick to help it continue---that it is extremely 
gratifying to know that we have a community of yay-sayers out there, right 
here. Thanks, and adios para ahora...
G



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[RBW] PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

2015-07-10 Thread Surlyprof
This looks legit since it is being sold at Livermore Cyclery.  Seemed like 
a screaming deal since they are trying to sell it quickly.

John

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[RBW] Aloha to Erl (Apologies to the list)

2015-07-10 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
The only apologies you should be making to the list is for you living in 
paradise and most of us not! Enjoy your ride Bob.

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-10 Thread reynoldslugs
another lurid view:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14752341602/in/album-72157645542691980/

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:

 Whoa. Those cranks need to be tagged NSFW.

 Jeff Hagedorn
 Los Angeles, CA USA


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Re: [RBW] Aloha to Erl (Apologies to the list)

2015-07-10 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Hah! Just keep in mind that 'paradise' has two rides, clockwise and
counter-clockwise. Admittedly they are nice rides. I prefer
counter-clockwise as that keeps the beach on your right. Okay, okay, there
a few other options as well.

For those who haven't traveled to the DC area, I've been corresponding with
Erl about the bike trail to Mt Vernon along the river. Wow. It was a super
day today with really great weather (after thunderstorms earlier in the
week) and even though I didn't manage to hook up with him I still did the
ride and owe him a big debt of thanks for letting me know about it.

While I wasn't riding a Riv on this trip I was riding a bike that has been
to Walnut Creek - twice in fact. How's that for Riv content.

I'll get around to a few images in time. Still in the middle of my vacation
and spending time around a computer isn't really on the agenda. :-)

Aloha all!

Bob

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 The only apologies you should be making to the list is for you living in
 paradise and most of us not! Enjoy your ride Bob.

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[RBW] Re: Meanwhile in Toranto...

2015-07-10 Thread Cecily Walker
I'm Buzzfeed famous!

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 9:38:37 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:


 http://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/people-in-toronto-created-a-memorial-to-a-dead-raccoon-after?bffbtrendingutm_term=4ldqphx#.wmOnKXK9w


 You ask about Riv content...

 Fellow list member's tweet is featured here...

 Also it's hilarious .


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[RBW] FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm at a very well-rounded ten, and I can justify having all of them, but I 
am 100% capacity for what I can physically store (first-world problem). 
 That said, there are other bikes on the incoming roadmap.  First off, I've 
volunteered to be the Team Mechanic for the El Cerrito High School Mountain 
Bike Racing Team.  I'm planning on having that be my main volunteer 
activity for the entirety of my two kids' six-years at ECHS.  So, I'm going 
to buy a regular 29er race-ish mountain bike.  Hydraulic disks, etc.  To 
let that bike in, one bike needs to go.  I'm still thinking about getting a 
Clem, and there are a couple other things that I might be tempted to do 
moving forward.  So, I've got FIVE bikes that I could part with.  I'd be 
happy to sell two and pull back the other three.  In no particular order

1. 56cm Orange Bombadil.  Bought off the peg from Riv in 2010.  Orange 
powdercoated 2TT Bombadil.  Frame/Fork/Headset + matching powdercoated 
200mm Bullmoose bars for $1400.  Negotiable complete bike  PHOTO 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5236885742/in/album-72157623611013487/

2. 58cm Gunnar Crosshairs singlespeed.  I bought this last summer from off 
the list.  I set it up as a really smart doublespeed.  I can change between 
two gears with no brake adjustment.  Waterford built frameset, spec'd to 
match a Riv in fit.  Frame/Fork/Wheelset $1000, negotiable complete bike 
options.  PHOTO 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/14820455111/in/album-72157642798847383/

3. 59cm Black Mountain Cycles Road.  Bought direct from Black Mountain 
Cycles in 2012.  Intended to be my budget-Roadeo.  My intent was always to 
use it as a budget prototype road bike for the next custom road bike I set 
up.  I'm still focussing in on exactly what that custom will be, but I've 
leaned what I need to learn from this fine bike.  $500 Frame/Fork/Headset. 
 Negotiable complete bike.  PHOTO 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/10237186425/in/album-72157636508980195/

4. 1987 22 Schwinn Paramountain Clem.  $800 complete.  If you are dying to 
have a CLEM-like bike immediately and are dying to have me buy a real CLEM, 
then you'll jump at this.  Includes the Mt Campee rack and basket and the 
custom Ruthworks framebag.  I'll even throw in my custom handmade 
corroplast prototype panniers.  PHOTO 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/17663099654/in/dateposted-public/

5. 58cm A. Homer Hilsen.  Bought new from Riv in the winter of 2010/11. 
 Ridden on numerous brevets.  Now it's become a platform for several of my 
off-the-wall build configuration notions, as evidenced by it's current 
setup as a 1x9 with an ultralight $900 wheelset.  Frame/fork/headset $1200. 
 Complete bike negotiable.  PHOTO 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/16427711380/in/dateposted-public/

This is bad timing on my part because I'll be out of town for a while, but 
I will bump this post in August.  Let me know if you want to talk.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-10 Thread EGNolan
Answered by G and a new Tourishy bike with that wild new crown

Best,
Eric

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:15:52 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Hmmm... Jeff Bilenky Jones???

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

2015-07-10 Thread Lungimsam
I had a 55 (came with pump peg)
I have a 53 (no peg)
From that I am assuming anything without a peg is 53 or smaller.
I have an 82 pbh. 5' 7 3/4 tall
The 53 rides better for me. Both standovers were fine for me. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

2015-07-10 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a 55, they probably measured 54 c-to-c. I had one and it was ever so 
slightly too tall for me at 78pbh, 5'-7. It should fit you perfectly, and it's 
a screaming deal with that Nygel Smythe goodie bag included. Go buy it right 
now!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-10 Thread BSWP
What is the minor flaw that will send the crown back for redesign? 

To my eyes, it's the minimal material between the two louvres, at the point 
where they just barely overlap. In-line vertically when viewed from the 
front, and also in-line with the threaded hole at the top. A larger web of 
metal in that area will make for a stronger grasp of the fork in the crown. 
Just my opinion, and I bet I'm wrong, it's probably something else really 
really subtle.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

2015-07-10 Thread Liesl
I have a 51 prototype bleriot.  no pump peg.  5'2 / 75-76 PBH.  standover 
fine with 38 soma expresses

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-10 Thread Liesl
Bill, just looking at those photos was a blast!  Gad I'm too short for any 
of 'em!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-07-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
Until very recently, we didn't have a Riv dealer either (guess where *I* live? 
:-)  I am in the parking lot pic, talking to Grant).  Although Rivelo doesn't 
service bikes, they just sell them :-)

It is bogus to think that any competent bike shop can't service your Riv.  99% 
of my 650b wheels are built by my LBS (a Trek dealer).  They also do any wrench 
work I can't.  My mechanics also did a super job helping me out with my 1971 
Gitane TdF.

Cheers,
Lynne F

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Amen, sister. I'm 30 minutes down the road from Bill, and could find excellent 
reasons for any one of those bikes if I were taller. Although that Paramountain 
would be sweet with a slammed seatpost. Hmmm...

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