[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 8:17:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: There's a definite negative attitude on this list toward racers. no there isn't. We don't like bike snobs on racing bikes, we don't like an industry that models itself after cutting-edge racing, and 30-something salespersons trying to put everybody on a cutting-edge racing bike or a cheap cookie-cutter facsimile, and pigeonholing everybody else. A nice enough guy otherwise looking over my upright at a water stop last weekend - after our in depth conversation was near over - said, so you built yourself a cruiser I made a point to pass him and leave him in the dust from my Italian Huffy. Made up for it yesterday on a greenway trail - ran across a fellow Grant Kool-Aid imbiber, who was riding a really nice upright built on a Miyata Triple Cross.and we shared a great stop -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?
'77 Raleigh Grand Prix, 25 frame, built as utility bike with 700c, wide-7 rear, cyclotouriste triple, moustache cockpit ''98 Moser 63 cm, mostly Campy road bike '92 Viner Pro Team cross 60 cm, built as upright with compact double and custom 9-speed index '84 Team Fuji, 52cm, built and ridden by my daughter, 9-speed index, noodles with cross brakes and bar ends '09 Motobecane USA Cafe Express 8, 15, my daughter's upright utility and first full-sized bike (and to get her anticipating shifting in our hills) 16' Wilderness Tarpon 160 PE kayak, rudder, coastal flats rigging http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/starboard/aP7020005.jpg 10' Heritage Redfish PE kayak, retractable wind skeg, johnny bar cockpit http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/boat/aaaP7270010.jpg assorted junk, riding lawnmower (fenced back yard is an acre), bike stand all my plastic fishing rods (all the cane is indoors) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP1070006.jpg staged Brady, Chapman and Frost River fishing bags, for coldwater, warmwater, guest, and salt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer
What's so hard about understanding the when appropriate is implicit.. There's little activity you can't envision an inconsiderate way to engage in it. You can be wearing tweed while riding a penny fairing, scoffing at the racer wannabes around yet be the most dangerous rude person on the MUP. On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 3:53:50 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: Let me paraphrase what he said: Throw your leg over a racing bike and pretend you're racing, leading the pack up a mountain. What could possibly go wrong? I merely pointed out one very common thing that in fact does go wrong when people do that. Why is that so hard to understand? On 07/30/2015 12:35 AM, Evan E. wrote: Congratulations, Eric. You made a good point and you expressed it well--and Steve found a way to criticize it. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Where to buy SKS fenders?
I know REI has some, but I think stock differs store to store. You can order them online and have them shipped to the nearest REI for free I believe. One of the benefits of silver SKS fenders are that you can run reflective tape on them and they don't show. Also, Riv is kind of known for operating this way. Even though they have some expensive frames, they understand everyone has a budget, and understand where bike parts have diminishing returns. I tried to order the Schmidt dynolight from them, and they politely persisted the $70 would suit my needs at more than half the price. I'm glad I listened. I try to order from them as much as a can, cause they're a business I can get behind On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 8:03:00 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote: Other than Riv, I mean. I would love to buy these SKS/ESGE Commuter II Fenders - B65 from Riv, but they are only offered in silver. I am not that fond of the silver, and would prefer black. The young man I was speaking with over the phone said I would really be better off buying from somewhere else in that case, and avoiding the $10 special order fee. Really seemed like they didn't want to take my money if it meant doing a special order. A little odd, but whatever. So, where to go for a reputable dealer who supplies what Riv does not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Where to buy SKS fenders?
Grant stocks what he needs to build bikes. Luckily he sells it to us without a bike. There are Many items that Grant has the Best Price you can find on the internet - not everything. Shopping around is always smart, especially if you're building a bike. As far as Modern Bike, Universal, Jensen, Ben's, these are all great outfits with great prices (not on each and every thing) and great service - last bike I built, all four of them along with Rivendell, Outside Outfitters, Alex cycles and Chain Reaction Cycles got orders from my logistics spreadsheet. I'm going to put in a kudo for Modern Bike, because I like Andy's personal effort. Yes, LBS very likely sell or can order the Commuter fenders you're looking for. When I was looking for clip-on fenders earlier in the year and pedaled between 4 different uptown and downtown bike shops , they all had the Commuters in stock (but didn't have what I needed). On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 6:24:30 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Wayne, I assume you order other things online if you have ordered from Riv . A google search reveals many links . Among them Amazon , the mega-store it is fwiw , sells them in black . I buy alot of things there as I have a Prime membership and things arrive in 2 days . But there are lots of other choices online for you to your preferences . http://www.amazon.com/SKS-Commuter-Bolt-On-Mountain-Fenders/dp/B00XFJB4VW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
Here's this years Tour Divide winner, Josh Kato's Salsa Fargo TI. Clipless pedals, shocks, XTR, drops, and disc brakes it is :p. http://www.bikepacking.com/gear/salsa-fargo-ti-josh-kato-tour-divide/ http://www.bikepacking.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/josh-kato-salsa-fargo-01.jpg On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 5:04:37 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: Nobody ever said that only MCRB's are available. I just said that only MCRB's are raced and glamorized, and that real world bike design could benefit from the same testing and glamour that MCRB's receive. I'm advocating race testing of practical, durable, and reliable bikes. Reliability would be race tested. That would provide useful information to the public. Wouldn't you be interested to know which fast bike could complete a long race with the fewest repairs and the most reliability? I might buy that bike. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Free: Free plus shipping, VO Threadless Stem 100mm, 17 degree
New in box. Opened but never installed. I'll pass this along to anyone on the forum for $6.00 to cover priority shipping within the US. See VO website for pics. 26 clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
There are lots of similarities between the car industry (and how they appeal to individual tastes) and the bike industry... and it shouldn't surprise us that the type of person who gravitates towards sleek, fast sports cars may also gravitate towards sleek fast sporty bikes, that's all... I drive a Honda Element. I like utility-focused bikes that can do many things in all kinds of weather on all kinds of terrain... gee, kinda like my car... I'd love to drive someone's Corvette, but I'd never want to own one... same as I'd love to take my friend's Pinarello Dogma around the block and declare WOW that's so light and so fast... but I'd never want to own one. To each his own, that's the beauty of having a robust and healthy industry that can appeal to many different tastes. Peace and Love of All Bikes... BB On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 8:26:29 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 8:17:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: There's a definite negative attitude on this list toward racers. no there isn't. We don't like bike snobs on racing bikes, we don't like an industry that models itself after cutting-edge racing, and 30-something salespersons trying to put everybody on a cutting-edge racing bike or a cheap cookie-cutter facsimile, and pigeonholing everybody else. A nice enough guy otherwise looking over my upright at a water stop last weekend - after our in depth conversation was near over - said, so you built yourself a cruiser I made a point to pass him and leave him in the dust from my Italian Huffy. Made up for it yesterday on a greenway trail - ran across a fellow Grant Kool-Aid imbiber, who was riding a really nice upright built on a Miyata Triple Cross.and we shared a great stop -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?
After finally acquiring a garage of my own this year, I can play! I've got: 64cm Surly LHT, built up quite Riv-ish with Bosco's, black B17 on Nitto lugged post, Front Mark's/Rear Big Nitto racks, usually sporting non-bagmatched Sackville TrunkSack small and Nigel Smythe tweed Country Bag. My do-everything bike, go-to for long road rides, mixed terrain stuff, sometimes commuting, occasional touring. 64cm Quickbeam (orange), set up as a more specifically road, lighter, fixed gear version of the Surly. Currently has Avenir Circa handlebars (RIP), front Nitto Mini/Wald/Shop Sack combo. My main commuter currently. 19(L) 2014 Raleigh Talus Comp hardtail 29er MTB, aluminum frame. My most modern bike, bought as kind of a challenge to see what it would be like living with a bit more current technology than my more retro-luddite tendencies would have me riding. Plus, mountain biking is fun. Getting the hang of bleeding hydro discs, next up is opening up the air-spring fork. 710mm Jones Loop H-Bars are the only major modification I've made. 19(L) 2014 Xtracycle Edgerunner cargo bike, part of a limited run made with the NuVinci N360 CVT IGH. Urban bike/grocery hauler/errand runner/neighborhood cruiser extraordinaire. After working in a cargo bike shop for 2.5 years, I could finally acquire one of my own, now that I had a garage to park it in. The '97 Civic EX 5spd 2dr lives outside, as evinced by the many layers of dust on it... On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:25:31 PM UTC-7, murphyjrfk wrote: I always wonder-i betcha there are a lot of cool bikes around. And right now I have a lot of bikes. I feel a bit self indulgent but I don't feel too bad when I think of the use. I have a pretty bikey family, a bike job and live in a great city to ride bikes in. I don't drive much either-like under 2k miles a year so that makes me feel even less guilty. But i'll start in order of importance.-well at least my order. 51 sage green Sam. Best bike ever. Get's used every day. 54 orange quickbeam. Super duper fun. Cannondale Adventure 2 step through hybrid. Permanent baby seat gets used a lot. Electra Townie 7d. My wife's ride which is super fun. 1969 Schwinn Twinn-which my oldest daughter (8) thinks is the coolest bike ever. Mostly because she doesn't have to pedal. And it has baskets for all her dolls. Jamis Capri 24 that's my oldest daughters ride. Fine little bike. First one she got to pick out all by herself. I asked her why she likes it best-she said it makes me feel like I'm a teenager-I'm in trouble. Surly LHT which usually sees super nasty weather duty. I'm not sure if I'll hang on to that one but it's a good bike so I probably will. Needless to say we have never had a car in our garage. My wife stopped complaining a while ago. So I guess it's ok. I hope others play along. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?
Whoops, forgot the wife's bikes. She has: 52cm Heron touring bike, currently set up with Alba's and Honjo fenders, her main go-to bike for pretty much any riding. NOS 2008 17 Jamis Dakota Sport MTB, 26 hardtail MTB we acquired for her last week. On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 8:01:16 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: After finally acquiring a garage of my own this year, I can play! I've got: 64cm Surly LHT, built up quite Riv-ish with Bosco's, black B17 on Nitto lugged post, Front Mark's/Rear Big Nitto racks, usually sporting non-bagmatched Sackville TrunkSack small and Nigel Smythe tweed Country Bag. My do-everything bike, go-to for long road rides, mixed terrain stuff, sometimes commuting, occasional touring. 64cm Quickbeam (orange), set up as a more specifically road, lighter, fixed gear version of the Surly. Currently has Avenir Circa handlebars (RIP), front Nitto Mini/Wald/Shop Sack combo. My main commuter currently. 19(L) 2014 Raleigh Talus Comp hardtail 29er MTB, aluminum frame. My most modern bike, bought as kind of a challenge to see what it would be like living with a bit more current technology than my more retro-luddite tendencies would have me riding. Plus, mountain biking is fun. Getting the hang of bleeding hydro discs, next up is opening up the air-spring fork. 710mm Jones Loop H-Bars are the only major modification I've made. 19(L) 2014 Xtracycle Edgerunner cargo bike, part of a limited run made with the NuVinci N360 CVT IGH. Urban bike/grocery hauler/errand runner/neighborhood cruiser extraordinaire. After working in a cargo bike shop for 2.5 years, I could finally acquire one of my own, now that I had a garage to park it in. The '97 Civic EX 5spd 2dr lives outside, as evinced by the many layers of dust on it... On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:25:31 PM UTC-7, murphyjrfk wrote: I always wonder-i betcha there are a lot of cool bikes around. And right now I have a lot of bikes. I feel a bit self indulgent but I don't feel too bad when I think of the use. I have a pretty bikey family, a bike job and live in a great city to ride bikes in. I don't drive much either-like under 2k miles a year so that makes me feel even less guilty. But i'll start in order of importance.-well at least my order. 51 sage green Sam. Best bike ever. Get's used every day. 54 orange quickbeam. Super duper fun. Cannondale Adventure 2 step through hybrid. Permanent baby seat gets used a lot. Electra Townie 7d. My wife's ride which is super fun. 1969 Schwinn Twinn-which my oldest daughter (8) thinks is the coolest bike ever. Mostly because she doesn't have to pedal. And it has baskets for all her dolls. Jamis Capri 24 that's my oldest daughters ride. Fine little bike. First one she got to pick out all by herself. I asked her why she likes it best-she said it makes me feel like I'm a teenager-I'm in trouble. Surly LHT which usually sees super nasty weather duty. I'm not sure if I'll hang on to that one but it's a good bike so I probably will. Needless to say we have never had a car in our garage. My wife stopped complaining a while ago. So I guess it's ok. I hope others play along. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Where to buy SKS fenders?
Just a though: If you like black, try the Planet Bike fenders. IME, the PBs are sturdier than the SKSs. I've got 60 mm PBs on the Fargo and they don't rattle even over choppy ground at speed. On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Wayne Naha w.r.n...@gmail.com wrote: Other than Riv, I mean. I would love to buy these SKS/ESGE Commuter II Fenders - B65 from Riv, but they are only offered in silver. I am not that fond of the silver, and would prefer black. The young man I was speaking with over the phone said I would really be better off buying from somewhere else in that case, and avoiding the $10 special order fee. Really seemed like they didn't want to take my money if it meant doing a special order. A little odd, but whatever. So, where to go for a reputable dealer who supplies what Riv does not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas
They agree on even more than just Tabatas? Or they agree on even more than 95% of things? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT/FS Baggins deluxe handlebar bag
hey david, just sent it out. here is the usps tracking 9505500011605211000135 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote: sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: 650b Dynamo Wheel - Shimano DH-3N71 - Synergy Rim - $150 shipped.
Bump. $140 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Tabatas
I like them too, especially with lemon and pepper. Good eating! Roy Drinkwater Lititz, PA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Question for the group, NOS Suntour ratchet barend shifters in original unopened package, what are they worth?
Their value is in the eye of the beholder of course. Yet they are simply shifters after all . I too have some NOS SuTour and Sachs stuff and have asked myself . . . .what would I sell these for if I did ? Like many, I've looked at eprey and the like to see what any such items have sold for , but what is it to Me what anyone else has ever done ? If I wish to sell them for a dollar , a million , or give them away . . . it has no real effect on Me and My Life ! Whatever you choose, you cannot go wrong ! What price is such* Freedom* ? Priceless ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Question for the group, NOS Suntour ratchet barend shifters in original unopened package, what are they worth?
Just wondering what these are worth today as a NOS, never opened package? It is finally the time to get my extra parts listed, sold the Rivendell Road less a couple of parts, so I will put all together when I list and i want to avoid eBay and give RBW or iBob members first crack. Thanks for your help on this Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Question for the group, NOS Suntour ratchet barend shifters in original unopened package, what are they worth?
That's a tough one because Ebay asking prices are all over the map, with some NOS listings that seem slightly ridiculous. If it were me, I would offer them comparable to what Riv charges for Silver bar-ends and see if you get any interest. On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 2:58:11 PM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: Just wondering what these are worth today as a NOS, never opened package? It is finally the time to get my extra parts listed, sold the Rivendell Road less a couple of parts, so I will put all together when I list and i want to avoid eBay and give RBW or iBob members first crack. Thanks for your help on this Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Dynamo Wheel - Shimano DH-3N71 - Synergy Rim - $150 shipped.
Sold. Thanks! On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 4:08:47 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote: Bump. $140 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Does Science Now Support ... Just Ride ?
Here is an interesting article that may be worthy of your attention: http://velonews.competitor.com/cycling-extremes Enjoy, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for the group, NOS Suntour ratchet barend shifters in original unopened package, what are they worth?
Search on eBay for completed listings to get an idea of what they're actually selling for. Some sellers have unrealistic asking prices, so their items don't sell. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jul 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: That's a tough one because Ebay asking prices are all over the map, with some NOS listings that seem slightly ridiculous. If it were me, I would offer them comparable to what Riv charges for Silver bar-ends and see if you get any interest. On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 2:58:11 PM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: Just wondering what these are worth today as a NOS, never opened package? It is finally the time to get my extra parts listed, sold the Rivendell Road less a couple of parts, so I will put all together when I list and i want to avoid eBay and give RBW or iBob members first crack. Thanks for your help on this Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does Science Now Support ... Just Ride ?
While I can make no claim to being a competitive athlete, this hits really close to home. I was diagnosed with AF in late 2013, and have dealt with it since then. Earlier this year, VT was added to the mix. My experience follows that of the article, recently an ICD was installed. I keep really close track of my heart rate. The really important point is one can feel completely normal with no symptoms, be in otherwise perfect health, have decades of perfect physicals, and still develop these problems. One study I found covered cross country skiers. It found that life long skiers over 50 developed AF at a much higher rate than a control population, contrary to expectation. I think there's a huge difference between exercising for general health and training as practiced by competitive athletes. One of my touring buds said at this point I'm happy to hang on to what I've got. dougP On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 9:04:37 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Here is an interesting article that may be worthy of your attention: http://velonews.competitor.com/cycling-extremes Enjoy, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... Just Ride ?
Makes me wonder where randonneuring fits into all this. It's hard at times, but we don't try to kill ourselves either and we usually ride at a social pace that allows for conversation. But still, 10 hour + rides are a frequent occurrence in the life of a randonneur. If you keep a social pace is it just riding or are you putting yourself in a danger zone just due to the sheer length of the thing. Who knows... -Jim On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:04 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Here is an interesting article that may be worthy of your attention: http://velonews.competitor.com/cycling-extremes Enjoy, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas
Jan has also been known to (gasp!) ride fast and (oh no!) wear Lycra. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's fashionable to put Grant vs Jan. I find they agree on 95 percent of things, roughly. Grant promotes Tabatas, and Jan today blogged how Tabatas are a really effective way for him to prep for PBP even though he has little time to ride. They agree on even more than that, IMHO. Their big disagreement seems to be on how much trail they prefer. Hardly earth shaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: 64cm Sam Hillborne frame - $775
Frame is sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Where to buy SKS fenders?
Thank you folks for all the suggestions. I did google the thing, of course, but really there were too many choices, and I had no way of discriminating between them. That's why I turned to the groupthink here. I feel a lot better about ordering from a business when a few folks on the forum speak up and say, 'Yeah, I ordered from them and it went well.' Also, I'm going to investigate those Planet Bike fenders, which I would never had heard of other than through here. So thanks again for your indulgence. I appreciate the info given. On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 8:03:00 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote: So, where to go for a reputable dealer who supplies what Riv does not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas
Proof! Jan in Lycra prior to PBP in 2011. https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/shares/365P8F https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/shares/365P8F --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Jan has also been known to (gasp!) ride fast and (oh no!) wear Lycra. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's fashionable to put Grant vs Jan. I find they agree on 95 percent of things, roughly. Grant promotes Tabatas, and Jan today blogged how Tabatas are a really effective way for him to prep for PBP even though he has little time to ride. They agree on even more than that, IMHO. Their big disagreement seems to be on how much trail they prefer. Hardly earth shaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
Is there any form of competition that glamorizes real world equipment? Certainly not cars. Too many golfers buy the clubs and balls the pros use. I can't think of an example. Glamorizing the normal would make it not-normal, at least partially. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?
No garage, just a two room bachelor apartment. I have a large dresser that holds nothing but bike parts and two homemade vertical bike racks that hold: 1998 (99?) Rivendell Atlantis Specialized S-works Crux cyclocross bike (my road bike) Ibis HD mountain bike Panniers, bike packing bags, extra tires, touring and commuting gear is in every available drawer, closet and corner. Clayton (Bend) https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XWXXD6YnCXA/VbpGoKXK_AI/AEY/9a1cmke4DpM/s1600/IMG_2208.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer
One needs fenders just to ride through this thread! John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas
*chuckle* That's the functional equivalent of hearing it from a burn1ng bush, at least as far as bicycle matters are concerned. Explains why I was out doing Tabatas in the heat and humidity yesterday evening... rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?
As I procrastinate about what I should be doing, here is what is in my garage, my shed, and my basement, depending on where they're at in stages of repair, tweaking, or getting ridden. Riv content: all but one are steel, and most of them are lugged. My collection has grown and shrunk over the years, but three bikes is where I tend to hover. Road, commuter, and mountain-y. My long-term bikes: 65cm 1983 Specialized Expedition with an e-assist front hub and battery in a Revelate bag. Stealth e-bike, main commuter for my long hilly commute. 62cm 1991 Bstone RB-T, repainted and with a Bilenky low trail fork. The bike that makes me say a nearly every time I get on for a ride. New arrival: 1990ish 22 Trek 950. Latest attempt to find love with a fat tire 26 bike. Had a 930 briefly a couple years ago that had a too-long Kona P2 fork that goofed up the steering, otherwise I was surprised how much I liked it. Hoping this will be as nice and steer good too. Also my experiment to see if shorter cranks will bother me; have a pair of old Ritchey microdrive cranks in 172.5 that are too cool not try. Spousal and kids' bikes: 19 1992 Trek 750. Wife's. Lugged steel, bullmoose bars. Neat bike. Replaced a pretty red XO-3 that had TCO and squirrely handling. 21 Diamondback Apex. Full 7-speed Deore. Bought for myself, decided it was too small, gave to son who needed a new bike. Very solid, good handling, good looking bike. Wish it fit me. 17.5 Fisher MTB. Disc brakes. A curb find (neighbor's kid outgrew it). Nice bike, other son has almost outgrown it. 17 Diamond Apex with smoke paint and straight fork. Cool little bike from CL I recently got for my daughter as a campus bike. Set up as a 1x7. 19 Trek 520 from the lugged years. Solid little touring bike. Daughter's bike, too nice to take to college. Needs a repaint and has a replacement fork that is not the best. Fisher Aquila. Curb find from way back when. Now has XT and Dura Ace hubs on Campy 26 rims. Daughter's other bike, wheels are too nice for college... :) The rest is mostly OT, just while I'm typing wanted to list all the bikes I can remember passing through my shop in the last 20 years or so. Recently departed: Big old Trek 850 from the first year of production. Too tall for me to ride comfortably off road, replaced by slightly smaller 950 above. Sole Rivendell: Briefly owned an orange canti Sam. Surprised how little I liked the color since orange is otherwise my favorite color for anything, not just bikes, and found it too stiff for my taste so sold it a couple years ago. Departed Bstones and other lugged bikes I still like to talk about: 1989 55cm MB-2 (my first good steel bike, planed for me when I was younger and stronger, hooked me on steel bikes, not sure why I sold it), 1994 62cm RB-1 with 8-speed Superbe Pro (prettiest bike ever), 1992 62cm RB-2 blue and white, 1978 65cm Trek 710 (besides the MB-2 the only bike I've sold that I've kind of wished I hadn't), 1983 65cm Trek 720 (nice but slow), 1982 65cm Trek 614 (whippy frame, ghost shifted like mad), 1983 65cm Trek 700 (hmm, do I like old lugged Treks or something? repainted this one ugly, prompting me to sell it before giviing it a chance), 1983 62cm Specialized Sequoia (brief stop here before finding its forever home with another bob), 1992 23 Trek 930 mentioned above. Other departed cool bikes: Specialized Stumpjumpers (2) - a 22 from 1983 or so, and a 21.5: from the early 90s. Schwinn Homegrowns (2) - rigid maroon and gray bassboat paint, singlespeed. Super light, super stiff. The other was orange bass boat full-sus, pretty nice bike overall, very light for full-sus. Trek Y-22, horrible handling off road, actually used as a commuter for a while with slicks and the sus locked out. Bontrager Race XL. Orange. Didn't like the handling and the short head tube. Dan in WI, who thinks he's done shuffling bikes for a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
now that Fargo is a race bike! no pansy bike with upright prairie dog bars. and a carbon fork too!! On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: Here's this years Tour Divide winner, Josh Kato's Salsa Fargo TI. Clipless pedals, shocks, XTR, drops, and disc brakes it is :p. http://www.bikepacking.com/gear/salsa-fargo-ti-josh-kato-tour-divide/ http://www.bikepacking.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/josh-kato-salsa-fargo-01.jpg On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 5:04:37 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: Nobody ever said that only MCRB's are available. I just said that only MCRB's are raced and glamorized, and that real world bike design could benefit from the same testing and glamour that MCRB's receive. I'm advocating race testing of practical, durable, and reliable bikes. Reliability would be race tested. That would provide useful information to the public. Wouldn't you be interested to know which fast bike could complete a long race with the fewest repairs and the most reliability? I might buy that bike. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
I'm very glad your friend had a good experience. I could recommend bike shops here that likely sell exactly what he wants and others that can make any of us drool. The people you can't seem to find are out there. I can give you a bad bike shop reference if you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
and no, the guy didn't hear a word I said -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
and yes, you can find jerks right here -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas
It's fashionable to put Grant vs Jan. I find they agree on 95 percent of things, roughly. Grant promotes Tabatas, and Jan today blogged how Tabatas are a really effective way for him to prep for PBP even though he has little time to ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Free: Free plus shipping, VO Threadless Stem 100mm, 17 degree
Claimed On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 8:32:00 AM UTC-7, boomer wrote: New in box. Opened but never installed. I'll pass this along to anyone on the forum for $6.00 to cover priority shipping within the US. See VO website for pics. 26 clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer
Well put! On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 12:01:58 PM UTC-4, John Phillips wrote: One needs fenders just to ride through this thread! John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
What is a pansy bike? What are prairie dog bars? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?
No garage, but in my shed, screened porch, living room and basement I have the following: 1975 Motobecane Super Mirage 58cm Surly LHT 56cm Atlantis 58cm Riv Road 58cm Romulus-frame/fork -winter build project 42cm Surly LHT- my wife's Two generic hybrids circa 1996 that I repainted and built for my sons. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 9:53:51 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: What are prairie dog bars? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 8:17:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: There's a definite negative attitude on this list toward racers. no there isn't. Gosh, I sure perceive one, and it started at the source. It pervaded the Reader for years. I'm not slamming Grant -- he and I have subsequently handled this, and we're good. We don't like bike snobs on racing bikes, we don't like an industry that models itself after cutting-edge racing, and 30-something salespersons trying to put everybody on a cutting-edge racing bike or a cheap cookie-cutter facsimile, and pigeonholing everybody else. A few months back, after reading a boblist statement along these lines, I called every sizeable bike shop within about 15 miles of my house in San Diego. San Diego has a culture of racing, and especially of triathlon, so you'd think that might pervade bike shops. I told the sales people I was going to send a friend in, who wanted to start cycling. I don't remember how I described that fictional friend ... a middle-aged normal non-cyclist person. I asked the salespeople what bike they would show such a person, and then subsequently I asked what tires the bikes had. The responses were 100% either touring bikes or hybrids. Tires were typically 32c. Some were 38c. The shops ranged from Performance to two large Specialized dealers and a Trek Superstore. 100%, the responses had nothing to do with racy bikes. So where are these bike snobs? Where are these salespersons? I suggest (1) it's a generalization that is perpetuated by a group which tends to have a certain set of opinions (gee, that sounds like religion or politics), and (2) when you go out in the world, you often encounter what you are pretty sure you are going to encounter. A nice enough guy otherwise looking over my upright at a water stop last weekend - after our in depth conversation was near over - said, so you built yourself a cruiser I made a point to pass him and leave him in the dust from my Italian Huffy. Why? After a pleasant, in-depth conversation, you didn't like one word he chose, so You. Showed. Him. Wasn't he giving you the opportunity to tell him why you liked your arrangement? Made up for it yesterday on a greenway trail - ran across a fellow Grant Kool-Aid imbiber, who was riding a really nice upright built on a Miyata Triple Cross.and we shared a great stop Well, that makes things easy. No cross-pollination. Nice, safe, comfortable, bicycle apartheid. Conversations like this remind me of a time a couple years back when I was entering my own neighborhood in the evening. I was on a fully racy carbon Look, and I'd just ridden the 45 miles/3500 feet of elevation, home from a long day of work at the office. I'd also ridden to work that morning, leaving the house at 5:15 a.m. I had office clothes and shoes and a laptop in my Timbuktu bag, and I was moving quite slowly, because I was three blocks from home, and, as the Brits say, thoroughly knackered. A 20-something fellow in street clothes on a Surly with an upright set-up caught me and passed me quite emphatically. He said nothing, and looked straight ahead with a grin. Yanno, when I pass other cyclists, especially if I am moving much faster than they are, I usually pass slowly and say hello, because I don't want to be perceived as being an a*e, because I hate to startle people, and because I want other cyclists to feel happy and encouraged. So, did he go home and post online, you should'a seen the stupid racer dude on the Look I smoked with my Surly today? I don't know -- maybe he didn't even notice me. Regardless, every group of people has about the same percentage of jerks and the same percentage of regular folks, and the choice of which side to be on is always available. :-) Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT/FS Baggins deluxe handlebar bag
sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
I didn't even know prarie dogs consumed alcohol On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 9:53:51 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: What are prairie dog bars? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] From Blug: Silvers shifting 9 sp chain over 10 sp cassette
7/8 speed cassette (cassette should read derailleur) 9-speed chain (should be an 8) 10 speed cassette. Should require 10sp chain. The cassette has a 40 t big cog. I'm pleased that Grant got a 10 sp cassette to work with a 9 sp chain, since I bought a bulk lot of these. I must try inserting 1 more cog into the Fargo's cassette, for the cost of a dished big cog and some 10 sp spacers. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
Laughing . Oh No ! . . . . there's attitudes here ? Implying one attitude is somehow better or worse than another ? How silly am I !So I ask myself . . .. when I detect an attitude , or a jerk , or see snobs on the road and in all walks of life . . . . . can I even recognize these negatives without being that negative myself ? HaH ! I cannot ! So who would have the attitude , who' would be the jerk , but me ? Laughing . . . .Say it ain't so datty-Oh ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas
On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's fashionable to put Grant vs Jan. I find they agree on 95 percent of things, roughly. Grant promotes Tabatas, and Jan today blogged how Tabatas are a really effective way for him to prep for PBP even though he has little time to ride. They agree on even more than that, IMHO. Their big disagreement seems to be on how much trail they prefer. Hardly earth shaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
Well said. “I think he doesn’t like me, so I don’t like him” did a lot to get this world where it is today. Everybody has problems, and everybody thinks they’re right. Keep that in mind when you’re snobbing on someone who’s different from you. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Laughing . Oh No ! . . . . there's attitudes here ? Implying one attitude is somehow better or worse than another ? How silly am I ! So I ask myself . . .. when I detect an attitude , or a jerk , or see snobs on the road and in all walks of life . . . . . can I even recognize these negatives without being that negative myself ? HaH ! I cannot ! So who would have the attitude , who' would be the jerk , but me ? Laughing . . . .Say it ain't so datty-Oh ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell
The young pup still has to learn how to pass someone with credit. First, you blow past at *at least* a 5 mph differential; second, you control your panting so that you can keep your mouth closed and nose breath as you go by. Third, you must be in the hooks. Fourth, you casually lift your *right forefinger* in greeting with a very brief sideways glance -- angle of head turn *no more* than 30*. Fifth, in a *very casual, conversational voice* you say, Nice bike. Lastly, and most important, *you turn off no more than 400 yards ahead and disappear* before you start puking up your guts. Patrick Moore, going out right now to chase down some roadies on his Fargo in humid ABQ, NM (who finds local roadies pleasant, and finds this list pretty forgiving in fact). On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Conversations like this remind me of a time a couple years back when I was entering my own neighborhood in the evening. I was on a fully racy carbon Look, and I'd just ridden the 45 miles/3500 feet of elevation, home from a long day of work at the office. I'd also ridden to work that morning, leaving the house at 5:15 a.m. I had office clothes and shoes and a laptop in my Timbuktu bag, and I was moving quite slowly, because I was three blocks from home, and, as the Brits say, thoroughly knackered. A 20-something fellow in street clothes on a Surly with an upright set-up caught me and passed me quite emphatically. He said nothing, and looked straight ahead with a grin. Yanno, when I pass other cyclists, especially if I am moving much faster than they are, I usually pass slowly and say hello, because I don't want to be perceived as being an a*e, because I hate to startle people, and because I want other cyclists to feel happy and encouraged. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer
Let me paraphrase what he said: Throw your leg over a racing bike and pretend you're racing, leading the pack up a mountain. What could possibly go wrong? I merely pointed out one very common thing that in fact does go wrong when people do that. Why is that so hard to understand? On 07/30/2015 12:35 AM, Evan E. wrote: Congratulations, Eric. You made a good point and you expressed it well--and Steve found a way to criticize it. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
The Dutch love bike racing but the country is awash with normal bikes. I have friends who live in Hilversum, a village outside of Amsterdam, and it is a real education to sit at a cafe in the shopping centre there and watch the horde of people turn up on normal bicycles to shop at the supermarket, go to the chemist, get a snack all on bicycles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Where to buy SKS fenders?
Wayne, I assume you order other things online if you have ordered from Riv . A google search reveals many links . Among them Amazon , the mega-store it is fwiw , sells them in black . I buy alot of things there as I have a Prime membership and things arrive in 2 days . But there are lots of other choices online for you to your preferences . http://www.amazon.com/SKS-Commuter-Bolt-On-Mountain-Fenders/dp/B00XFJB4VW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell
Good point, but we really need bike education here in the US. The Dutch have extensive bike education starting in early school and going all the way up. I am an LCI, and I have taught How to Choose a Bike classes. I assure you, the level of ignorance among the general public is breath taking. People really think that MCRB's will make them 10 MPH faster than a normal bike. When I do the One MPH faster for every 12 pounds math and show them that the difference in their commute time is more like 30 seconds, their eyes open up. Then I tell them that they spent more time than that putting on their special shoes and jersey. The Dutch know that...Americans do not. Doug On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 2:51:09 AM UTC-7, George Millwood wrote: The Dutch love bike racing but the country is awash with normal bikes. I have friends who live in Hilversum, a village outside of Amsterdam, and it is a real education to sit at a cafe in the shopping centre there and watch the horde of people turn up on normal bicycles to shop at the supermarket, go to the chemist, get a snack all on bicycles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
