date:20150824

I'm not big on bikes in earth tones (or cars).  While black bikes look 
beautiful, invisible bike riders in low morning and evening sunlight and 
bad weather are dumb.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim

Yeah, I just don't want to pay $8 shipping for a $10 piece of metal :-)

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 Riv appears to have them: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm

 John


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 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim

Thanks Jim! As mentioned, I can get them direct from Riv, just wondering if
someone had a set they weren't using/didn't need.

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 I think I have something.

 Let me check tonight. Then I could stick in an envelope.


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 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm
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[RBW] Re: FS: Willow Chainrings Summer Sale - 25% off.

Thanks for the follow-up. I'm an 8-speed setup tops, testing out 9-speed on 
a new build, so I've little experience with these chainrings myself.
I never asked compatibility questions about these chainrings when I took 
over the inventory, but I'm guessing as they were made 15 years ago or so 
(someone with easy access to Readers could verify this). When did 10-speed 
cassettes/chain become the norm? Could be that these chainrings weren't 
really made with 10-speed in mind. I've heard some reports of them working 
ok, but real-world experience seems limited with these. Maybe variation 
from manufacturer in actual chain width?
David
Chicago

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 10:10:33 PM UTC-5, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:

 This is *not* a complaint. This is a follow-up from my previous post 
 regarding use of Willow chainrings with 10-speed drivetrains.

 I finally installed my 46T and 29T chainrings that I got from David on my 
 10-speed bike. They replaced a 48/34 combo as I wanted lower gears.

 The 29T works fine with my Ultegra 10-speed chain. The 46T, despite 
 appearing to mesh fine on the workstand, jumped once I was on the road 
 and applied a bit of force on the cranks. The chain is fairly new and 
 measured (with a 15 metal ruler) to have minimal wear. Upon inspection, 
 the width of both 29T and 46T Willow chainrings are almost 2.3 mm, whereas 
 the originals are closer to 2.0 mm. The 29T work fine as perhaps their 
 teeth are taller; the 46T's teeth are shorter, although they are the same 
 height as the teeth from the original chainring it replaced. I'm guessing 
 the extra width of the teeth prevented the narrower links on chain from 
 seating consistently, and increased the propensity to jump under load. 
 This explanation isn't satisfying as 7 through 11-speed chains should all 
 have an internal width of 3/32. I did find that the Surly stainless 
 chainrings do not like 9-speed chains although they were fine with 8-speed 
 chains.

 I guess I'm stuck with expensive Sugino originals.





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 Bumping this up. Slowly lowering the discount until the end of the 
 summer. So, 20% off Willow chainrings now at treetop.bigcartel.com. Will 
 probably take 5% off per week or so. Use code WILLOW during checkout. If 
 you forget to put in the discount code, just contact me and I'll take care 
 of it.
 Thanks,
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Hupe saddle bag support

2015-08-24 Thread Rory Woods

Hi Riv owners, 

Anyone got one of these they'd be willing to part with? If so, please 
message me off-list. 

Thanks!
Rory

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim

2015-08-24 Thread James Warren

I think I have something.

Let me check tonight. Then I could stick in an envelope.


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 Anybody have an extra one to get rid of?
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm
 Need to get some A-bars set up and running. 
 
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[RBW] Re: Free for shipping: Two sets Dia Compe brake levers

Levers are spoken for, thanks for the interest, internet friends!

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 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/20831946045

 One set traditional, close to NOS. Slight shop wear. Perfect hoods.

 One set aero levers, missing hoods. Little rough, but functionally 100%

 $8 gets them to you in the US, $16 rest of the world.


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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

John's Irish strap, Dutch triple strap, bell 26, spare loud springs for 
bell, the Columbine chain hanger is nice to add to a bike without a chain 
hanger, Boeshield, Obenauf's, cycling cap, small tools

 

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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

clear chainstay protector

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10:09:39 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 John's Irish strap, Dutch triple strap, bell 26, spare loud springs for 
 bell, the Columbine chain hanger is nice to add to a bike without a chain 
 hanger, Boeshield, Obenauf's, cycling cap, small tools

  


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[RBW] Re: FS: sorta OT, but not really: Aeropress Hario Coffee Grinder

Both items are now spoken for.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10:03:22 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:

 Sorta OT, but not really as Riv sells the Aeropress.

 Switched up my coffee-outside kit which doubles as my work-coffee kit, so 
 I have some coffee-related items to pass on.

 1. Aeropress - bought from Riv awhile back, comes with about half the 
 original filters (which is still a LOT), the filter holder, and the 
 step-down funnel - $15 plus $3 shipping

 2. Hario Skerton Manual Burr Grinder - a little bigger than the smaller 
 portable grinders, but still portable and can hold more beans without 
 having to empty and refill to grind for a pot of coffee, doesn't have the 
 little rubber anti-slip pad for the bottom, which I never used as it 
 doesn't really do anything - $15 plus shipping - this one is about a pound 
 - so figure $5.35 for Priority mail

 Can fit both items together for $5.35 shipping cost.
 Paypal Personal payment please.
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Wheelie on 18% grade...

2015-08-24 Thread RJM

18% I'm standing. I really don't like to sit and grind a grad that steep, 
so I just stand up and use my weight to make the pedals spin. The key is 
always to go at such a pace that you aren't in the red the whole time. 
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 6:29:29 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: 

 So I rode my first 18% grade today and found myself poppin' a wheelie by 
 accident.

 It was hard to get into a comfy position and just get into a rhythm.

 Do you lean forward a lot, into hoods, or sit up more on the tops with 
 drops to get into the zone on those kinda grades?

 The only rhythm I got into was my anaerobic gasping.


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim

2015-08-24 Thread Surlyprof

Riv appears to have them: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm

John

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:08:00 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

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 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm
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[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-24 Thread Surlyprof

I double checked my Hillborne after reading this thread.  I hadn't caught 
that warning when I replaced my single with a double and this thread made 
me nervous.  Mine is a 2012 and has the u-section plate that Tim referred 
to.  It is the thinner metal but the u-section seats the kickstand nicely. 
 Dug through the parts drawers and found the chainstay mounting bracket 
that came with the stand.  It was easily installed and I am no longer 
nervous.  Thanks for bringing this up.

John

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 2:44:00 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so, i havent been amazingly satisfied with my pletscher dbl leg stand. it 
 just doesnt seem that stable with a load and it tends to make creaking 
 noises that are not reassuring.  i was at a bike shop a few months ago, and 
 saw the same kickstand with a sticker that said 30lb weight limit (it was 
 in kg, but i did the math). i asked the bike shop guy and he seemed to have 
 no idea if that was a legitimate statement, and i can find no weight limit 
 listed anywhere online. its possible that that tainted my view of the 
 kickstand's sturdiness. 

 back to real time. i was gonna another black version, since i at least 
 know what im getting with the pletscher, and the others are mysterious to 
 me. and i read this on the rivendell site *NOTE: Don't bolt these on to 
 Riv kickstand plates, those are for single leggers only. If you want to use 
 a double, use the sandwich and run the bolt through the plate.***

 now, i dont really know what that means. does it mean that you are still 
 supposed to use the top plate even with a kickstand plate? that would seem 
 to defeat the purpose of a kickstand plate, since the top part cant fit 
 between the chainstays and would therefore have to go on top.  also, the 
 product page with that warning,  HERE 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k21.htm , clearly shows it bolted 
 directly to the kickstand plate. 

 anyway, maybe im misreading it. maybe you are supposed to put the plate on 
 top and run a really long bolt through pletscher plateairkickstand 
 platekickstand? seems weird to me.

 more to the point, is anyone using a double leg kickstand that they really 
 like for touring with loads and standing up on not always super smooth/flat 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

2015-08-24 Thread Marc Irwin

I got back from last week's ride along the Michigan lake shore.  I will be 
waiting until later in the week to make reservations for the rally on the 25th 
of Sept.  So far I have only received 2 confirmations in the mail.  According 
to the responses I've had, I expect 10-12 for the weekend.  $20 each should 
take of camping for the weekend, it can be sent to me by mail or through Google 
wallet (it's easy and free).  Here is a link to the route I have put 
together:http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/813742175
It is a relatively moderate route and I checked out the roads which are in very 
good condition.  It's about 60% gravel with both of the climbing sections on 
asphalt.  Hope to see you all there.

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[RBW] Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

I'm putting together a Riv order to take advantage of a birthday coupon and 
thought I'd treat myself to some extras this year.
What are your favorite small items (under $20) that Riv carries?
Bike or non-bike related items welcomed.
Thanks,
David
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[RBW] FS: sorta OT, but not really: Aeropress Hario Coffee Grinder

Sorta OT, but not really as Riv sells the Aeropress.

Switched up my coffee-outside kit which doubles as my work-coffee kit, so I 
have some coffee-related items to pass on.

1. Aeropress - bought from Riv awhile back, comes with about half the 
original filters (which is still a LOT), the filter holder, and the 
step-down funnel - $15 plus $3 shipping

2. Hario Skerton Manual Burr Grinder - a little bigger than the smaller 
portable grinders, but still portable and can hold more beans without 
having to empty and refill to grind for a pot of coffee, doesn't have the 
little rubber anti-slip pad for the bottom, which I never used as it 
doesn't really do anything - $15 plus shipping - this one is about a pound 
- so figure $5.35 for Priority mail

Can fit both items together for $5.35 shipping cost.
Paypal Personal payment please.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] FS 56 Sam Hillborne

2015-08-24 Thread Miles

Contemplating selling my Sam as I feel I may need a more trail worthy 
steed.  Basically a standard drop bar Riv build.  I am looking to see if 
there is interest.  Really only have around 100 miles on the bike and I 
feel it may not be for me. Orange, Taiwanese build, single TT, side pull 
brake.   Looking for $2000 as it is near new.. I will send specs and photos 
if interested.  

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Re: [RBW] Wheels for 97 Riv Road

2015-08-24 Thread James in Scottsdale

I'm getting a lot of suggestions for the Dyad from this and other sources.  
Probably going that way.  

Thanks to all,
Jim in Scottsdale

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Re: [RBW] Re: Found a 1986–87 Bridgestone T700 at the Curb This Morning, Am Puzzled

2015-08-24 Thread Robert Bolesta

Thanks for the comments, everyone!

I decided that I'm going to build this up as my commuter/light tourer, 
replacing my current too-small-for-me Bridgestone 450 of the same year, or 
possibly the year after. I've been riding the 450 to 5 miles work every day 
for almost 8 years, and I even toured with it a few times, in a kind of 
janky, not-ideal but who cares kind of way. I love the bike, but luckily 
this T700 I found for free is just my size so I'm replacing it.

The only difference between the two frames is that the 450 has less tire 
clearance and recessed brake nuts. A couple of years ago I did a 650b 
conversion on it which allowed me to get fenders plus 32mm Nifty Swifty's. 
I haven't tried Col de la Vie's but I have a feeling they'd just barely 
fit. But when on the T700 I found, I'll be able to put Schwalbe Marathons 
on these wheels, something I'm super excited about.

Other than the wheelset I'll be migrating my Bosco bars, shimano levers, 
Sun Race one-at-a-time shifters and my compact Tubus Fly rear rack. The 
crank was missing when I found it, so I'm adding a new Sugino x D600, and 
just replaced the bottom bracket last night.

Jack B: I love your suggestion of getting a Sam Fork, but, I think I might 
hold off and at some point buy a true tourer like a Hunq or an Atlantis.

I'll post pictures at some point if you all are interested.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

2015-08-24 Thread Marc Irwin

Great!, let me know.

Marc

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-4, CapNMike wrote:

 Hi Marc, 

 I rode much of the round last weekend road conditions are great. I haven't 
 decided if I will be camping or just driving over each day. Hoping to bring 
 a few like-minded cyclist with me. 

 -Mike 

 Sent from my iPhone 

  On Aug 24, 2015, at 09:47, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  I got back from last week's ride along the Michigan lake shore.  I will 
 be waiting until later in the week to make reservations for the rally on 
 the 25th of Sept.  So far I have only received 2 confirmations in the mail. 
  According to the responses I've had, I expect 10-12 for the weekend.  $20 
 each should take of camping for the weekend, it can be sent to me by mail 
 or through Google wallet (it's easy and free).  Here is a link to the route 
 I have put together:http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/813742175 
  It is a relatively moderate route and I checked out the roads which are 
 in very good condition.  It's about 60% gravel with both of the climbing 
 sections on asphalt.  Hope to see you all there. 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Found a 1986–87 Bridgestone T700 at the Curb This Morning, Am Puzzled

2015-08-24 Thread James Warren

With 650B wheels, this bike is going to be AWESOME! With sidepull brakes, it's an ideal conversion. It'll look better than the following photo, which already looks good:http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1987/pages/bridgestone-1987-22.htm-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Found a 1986–87 Bridgestone T700 at the Curb This Morning, Am Puzzled

Thanks for the comments, everyone!I decided that I'm going to build this up as my commuter/light tourer, replacing my current too-small-for-me Bridgestone 450 of the same year, or possibly the year after. I've been riding the 450 to 5 miles work every day for almost 8 years, and I even toured with it a few times, in a kind of janky, not-ideal but who cares kind of way. I love the bike, but luckily this T700 I found for free is just my size so I'm replacing it.The only difference between the two frames is that the 450 has less tire clearance and recessed brake nuts. A couple of years ago I did a 650b conversion on it which allowed me to get fenders plus 32mm Nifty Swifty's. I haven't tried Col de la Vie's but I have a feeling they'd just barely fit. But when on the T700 I found, I'll be able to put Schwalbe Marathons on these wheels, something I'm super excited about.Other than the wheelset I'll be migrating my Bosco bars, shimano levers, Sun Race one-at-a-time shifters and my compact Tubus "Fly" rear rack. The crank was missing when I found it, so I'm adding a new Sugino x D600, and just replaced the bottom bracket last night.Jack B: I love your suggestion of getting a Sam Fork, but, I think I might hold off and at some point buy a true tourer like a Hunq or an Atlantis.I'll post pictures at some point if you all are interested.

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[RBW] Re: Wheelie on 18% grade...

I paid close attention on today's abbreviated (Shouldn't that word be 
shorter? Sardonic grin.) ride, particularly pulling on the handlebars. I 
pull on them, both sides equally with each stroke (which obviously 
alternates feet sides), and only to the point of equilibrium or less with 
the downward push of the pedals, so there is no upward motion added, only 
leverage against the pedals.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:

 So I rode my first 18% grade today and found myself poppin' a wheelie by 
 accident.


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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

2015-08-24 Thread Mark Reimer

Never owned a car. Commute to work has always been short though as I live 
just on the outskirts of downtown. Between 3-5km. 

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 1:35:35 AM UTC-5, Andre Rosario wrote:

 I live in the SF Bay Area and I've been carless since moving here 8 years 
 ago. Most of my commute mileage is covered by the BART (subway), and I only 
 have to ride to and from BART stations. I'd guess that I end up riding 
 10-20 miles a week. 

 Being carless is great. Low maintenance costs, no parking or traffic 
 tickets, no gas costs (unless you count the price of a burrito here and 
 there). I have a Zipcar account for times when I absolutely need a car but 
 that's only a few times a year. 

 Of course if I had kids or a job that required more travel, it'd be a lot 
 harder, but if you can find a way to make it work, I highly recommend it. 

 Happy riding. 


 Andre

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[RBW] Loosening Chainring Bolts

2015-08-24 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado

Twice this year (since replacing my front chainrings for the first time since 
Riv’s original install of the Sugino rings) I’ve gotten a puzzling 
squeelch/creaking when cranking. After tightening my chainring bolts (which at 
most took a 1/4 turn), it vanished to blissful silence. I’m planning on 
removing the bolts, scraping them through beeswax and reinstalling. Any other 
thoughts?

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Patrick

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[RBW] FS 56 Sam Hillborne

2015-08-24 Thread bo richardson

where is it physically located?
a photo would be nice

thanks

bo

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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

Patrick,
They shouldn't be coming loose.
Are you using a chain ring tool to tighten them?
http://www.parktool.com/product/chainring-nut-wrench-cnw-2

Instead of beeswax try *removable* locktite on the threads of the bolts.
Also tighten them as you would a wheel on your car..skipping each bolt as 
go around the chain ring until they are all tightened.
Hope that helps.
Jon






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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

Thanks, Jon. The scent of Locktite is problematic, and I'm fairly certain I 
didn't use beeswax when I put them on before. I don't have a chainring 
wrench, but spinning bolts isn't a problem so far.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Riding with Young Children: was Carless?

I'm sort of carless and rely on bicycles for transportation. My wife owns a 
car, so our family is not technically carless, though I rarely use the car 
on my own. I average about 10-15 miles a day in commutes, then recreational 
riding throughout the week  weekend.
This has been dwindling lately as we had our first child born at the end of 
June, and I'll tag along in the car for errands that I normally would've 
done by bike. Add in an appendicitis surgery a few weeks ago, and I've been 
reliant on my wife to drop me off  pick me up from work, though I should 
be back on the bike this week.
My question I suppose then is:
When did you start including an infant/young child into your riding routine?
How'd you do so... specifically what equipment worked well?
How'd you convince (if you needed to) your partner that it's safe to get 
young children involved in cycling?

My wife proudly joined me on commutes last year before her pregnancy. We 
work at the same place so she's been comfortable riding with me along with 
her the whole way. So hopefully we'll be getting family rides in as soon as 
we can.

David
Chicago

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[RBW] Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread Alan Pickett

I almost always going to John's Irish strap,  and often where one is a belt so 
that it is always handy. There's also the wooden Rivendell yo-yo which is sort 
of hard to pass up - I got one with my last order. I also got one of the NItto 
factory hats which are kind of a kick in the pants. The little magnets are cool 
too… I also often get the little brass housing fair are y which are kind of a 
kick in the pants. The little magnets are cool too… I also often get the little 
brass housing ferrules and The silver shifter black plastic washer that 
occasionally break ends need replacing.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread Alan Pickett

I really like that Legolas red.  Does anyone know the story behind the Carter's 
Rivendell's? I see a picture on the inter-webs with both Jimmy and Rosalyn 
standing astride to Rivendell's. Hopis doing OK. I have not yet checked the 
news today.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread Evan E.

Dave's burnt orange/copper/root beer Homer is almost as beautiful as an 
orange-with-gold-iridescent-shimmer Rambouillet.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread Joe Bernard

My slightly vague memory is that Grant gave President Carter a Riv (not sure 
about a second one) in appreciation for his humanitarian work.

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Hupe saddle bag support

2015-08-24 Thread Joe Bernard

Have you ever used one? They're quite the pain to install, and do a fabulous 
job of roughing up the paint. No worries if it's for a non-fabulous-paint 
frame, but otherwise I wouldn't advise it. 

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[RBW] Re: Riding with Young Children: was Carless?

2015-08-24 Thread Edwin W

Here are my thoughts:
0-1y Kids typically do not have enough neck strength to be safe in a bike 
seat with a helmet on. When I had a bakfiets/box bike, I just strapped an 
infant car seat into the box. In the netherlands, parents often strap an 
infant seat to the back rack, perhaps with a local clasp. 

Some will put an infant seat into a trailer. I never liked having my kids 
at bumper level.

Once they are about a year, you can put a helmet on them (required by law 
in most states I have looked at) and have them in one of the many kid bike 
options. Good euro brands are kettler, yepp and bobike. The ones that sit 
in front of you foster communication with the kiddo more than the ones 
behind you, in my experience.

As for convincing the wife, I occasionally had trouble with that. A sure 
fix is a trip to the netherlands, which I am still working on!

Edwin

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 1:06:36 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:

 I'm sort of carless and rely on bicycles for transportation. My wife owns 
 a car, so our family is not technically carless, though I rarely use the 
 car on my own. I average about 10-15 miles a day in commutes, then 
 recreational riding throughout the week  weekend.
 This has been dwindling lately as we had our first child born at the end 
 of June, and I'll tag along in the car for errands that I normally would've 
 done by bike. Add in an appendicitis surgery a few weeks ago, and I've been 
 reliant on my wife to drop me off  pick me up from work, though I should 
 be back on the bike this week.
 My question I suppose then is:
 When did you start including an infant/young child into your riding 
 routine?
 How'd you do so... specifically what equipment worked well?
 How'd you convince (if you needed to) your partner that it's safe to get 
 young children involved in cycling?

 My wife proudly joined me on commutes last year before her pregnancy. We 
 work at the same place so she's been comfortable riding with me along with 
 her the whole way. So hopefully we'll be getting family rides in as soon as 
 we can.

 David
 Chicago


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[RBW] Re: FS: Willow Chainrings Summer Sale - 25% off.

2015-08-24 Thread Joe Bernard

Willow chainrings were made around the time that 9-speed was starting to 
appear, but Riv was years away from selling any 9-speed stuff. They may or may 
not work depending on application, but they were developed for 5/6/7/8-speed 
drivetrains.

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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

Pine tar soap.

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 11:10:52 AM UTC-7, Alan Pickett wrote:

 I almost always going to John's Irish strap,  and often where one is a 
 belt so that it is always handy. There's also the wooden Rivendell yo-yo 
 which is sort of hard to pass up - I got one with my last order. I also got 
 one of the NItto factory hats which are kind of a kick in the pants. The 
 little magnets are cool too… I also often get the little brass housing fair 
 are y which are kind of a kick in the pants. The little magnets are cool 
 too… I also often get the little brass housing ferrules and The silver 
 shifter black plastic washer that occasionally break ends need replacing.

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim

Anybody have an extra one to get rid of?
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm
Need to get some A-bars set up and running.

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Re: [RBW] Riding with a cold

2015-08-24 Thread clyde canter

There is a product out called Cold eze, or something like that.  Suffer the
symptoms without antihistamines, etc,, drink lots of fluids, rest and take
the Cold eze, which contains zinc. I am convinced it shortens the life of
the virus.
Feel better.

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 I caught a bad cold late the week before last -- on the bike, as a matter
 of fact, when, riding in the north bosque I acquired a massive, almost
 instantaneous allergy attack which that night turned into a sinus infection
 and then the next day into a cold proper.

 I probably extended it by riding too early and hard, tho' only my usual
 short distances: a couple of 20+ milers and a few 11-14 milers: feel OK;
 ride; congratulate myself at getting better; get up feeling shitty the next
 day; don't ride that day; repeat. And I was trying to hold back; indeed, I
 did hold back, since my speeds were certainly modest. (I do *not* fret
 about my averages, but I do check them.)

 At any rate, I felt good enough on Friday to do a modestly hilly 21.5 1/3
 dirt and 2/3 pavement on the Fargo; and yesterday felt lousy enough to
 limit my ride to exactly 11.18 miles per Cyclemeter, on the gofast. Again,
 I tried to hold back, but ended up at 16.16 mph overall clock running
 despite an annoyingly and unusually long 4+ minute wait at the intersection
 of my access road with busily traffik'd Montano.

 This morning at Liturgy I felt completely wiped out and begged off from
 reading the thanksgiving prayers afterward. No riding today.

 I know the answer to my implied question in principle: *don't push it*,
 but I'm curious as to what all ya'll do when you have that sort of cold
 that causes great, globby, mucus-laden coughing.

 Patrick absolutely nothing epic here Moore, , sitting at the keyboard
 and soaking up the gin 'n' lime in unusually gray and cool and humid ABQ,
 NM.

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[RBW] Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

2015-08-24 Thread Andre Rosario

I live in the SF Bay Area and I've been carless since moving here 8 years ago. 
Most of my commute mileage is covered by the BART (subway), and I only have to 
ride to and from BART stations. I'd guess that I end up riding 10-20 miles a 
week.

Being carless is great. Low maintenance costs, no parking or traffic tickets, 
no gas costs (unless you count the price of a burrito here and there). I have a 
Zipcar account for times when I absolutely need a car but that's only a few 
times a year.

Of course if I had kids or a job that required more travel, it'd be a lot 
harder, but if you can find a way to make it work, I highly recommend it.

Happy riding.


Andre

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Re: [RBW] Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread Aaron Young

Bandana(s). I've never had too many bandanas.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Monday, August 24, 2015, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Pine tar soap.

 On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 11:10:52 AM UTC-7, Alan Pickett wrote:

 I almost always going to John's Irish strap,  and often where one is a
 belt so that it is always handy. There's also the wooden Rivendell yo-yo
 which is sort of hard to pass up - I got one with my last order. I also got
 one of the NItto factory hats which are kind of a kick in the pants. The
 little magnets are cool too… I also often get the little brass housing fair
 are y which are kind of a kick in the pants. The little magnets are cool
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 shifter black plastic washer that occasionally break ends need replacing.

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[RBW] test

2015-08-24 Thread Eddie Flayer

test

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[RBW] Re: Riding with Young Children: was Carless?

2015-08-24 Thread 'Jay B' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hi David,

I started carrying our son in a BoBike Classic Mini on the front of my 
Bleriot when he was about 9 months old.  This was a great setup to begin 
with, and the optional windshield really made a big difference for winter 
riding.  When he outgrew that (at about 2 years), we transitioned to a Yepp 
Maxi attached to the rear rack on my Xtracycle.  I love the long bike 
setup: super stable with the Kick Back 2 legged kickstand, really easy to 
load kid and stuff, and it rides just like a bike.  

My wife prefers pulling a Cycletote trailer behind here Betty Foy, but only 
because she is less confident in her riding skills, and the trailer just 
feels safer to her.   For occasional use, the trailer is fine, but for 
daily city riding I would recommend a Yepp or Bobike seat attached to the 
bike.  Long bikes (Surly Big Dummy, Xtracycle Edgerunner, Xtracycle 
Freeradical attachment) are wonderful.  I think the new Clem Bike with it's 
long wheelbase might work great, as well, with some nice puffy tires and a 
big basket up front.  

best,
Jay B
Fort Collins, CO

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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-08-24 Thread Gravel Grind Espresso + Bikes

Hey gang,

James, Co-owner of Gravel  Grind in Frederick MD here.  We’re the new kids 
on the Riv Dealer block. Just a quick heads up to the list about our shop 
and some of things we sell.  Quick once over on the shop: we only sell 
steel bikes, and we generally only try to sell bikes with friction 
shifting.  We’re not big fans of disc brakes, and you won’t find any bikes 
we’ve spec’d with them.  Our main deal is taking good older steel frames 
and reimagining them as something new and good.  IE an old Specialized 
Rockhopper into a mountain touring bike or town bike.  Or an old Fuji road 
bike as a 650b conversion dirt road friendly bike.  We can build a new bike 
for ya as well, Riv, VO, Soma, Surly, All City, New Albion...  There are 
lots of great dirt roads and fire roads near our shop, so make a day of 
coming up, grabbing some coffee and poking around, then heading outta town 
to explore some fantastic and hard riding.  We’ll getcha a good cue sheet, 
mileage ranging from 24 to 100...  

We just built up a 58cm Sam with Albatross bars for test rides.  We also 
have a 56 Atlantis with the same bars, and a Hunq in a 51 and an Atlantis 
in a 51 on order, ETA roughly Xmas time.  They’ll be set up with dirt 
drops.  Currently we’re trying to stock a good amount of Riv bags, as well 
as most of Frost River’s bag line (most of which are originally Riv 
designs), bags from Oveja Negra (we can help with custom frame bags from 
them), Brooks saddle bags and some Ostrich stuff as well.  We also keep 
Albatross, various dirt drops, mustache and albastash, Noodles and Bosco 
bars in stock.  Lots of good S24O kit in stock, we tend to go simple and 
light on that stuff.  Ti mugs, alcohol stoves, hammocks, small good 
headlamps.  

Other stuff we stock that might be of interest to this list:
-Some older Riv readers
-Grant’s two books
-Green Grips organic cotton bar tape in most colors
-Lots of Brooks saddles including a brooks lending library with a Flyer, 
B67, B17 and 2 cambiums
-Full S240 rental kits as well as steel touring bikes for rent by the day 
or week
-Every size of Panaracer Pasela PT imaginable, including 650b
-A small but good used travel book section
-good coffee accessories from Kalita, Chemex, Snow Peak, Hario
-Lezyne lights
-Brooks Multi Tools

More stuff of course, but that gives an idea.  We have a huge list of cool 
events coming up, check them out on our website, which has some but not all 
of our products up.  
www.gravelandgrind.com calendar at 
http://gravelandgrind.com/basketful-rad-stuff/

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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

2015-08-24 Thread Eddie Flayer

Loctite blue - your application is what it is made for:

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_lkr_blue/overview/Loctite-Threadlocker-Blue-242.htm

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 9:37:21 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Twice this year (since replacing my front chainrings for the first time 
 since Riv’s original install of the Sugino rings) I’ve gotten a puzzling 
 squeelch/creaking when cranking. After tightening my chainring bolts (which 
 at most took a 1/4 turn), it vanished to blissful silence. I’m planning on 
 removing the bolts, scraping them through beeswax and reinstalling. Any 
 other thoughts?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread Chris Chen

I think the color party on the rear rack makes up for it :)

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not big on bikes in earth tones (or cars).  While black bikes look
 beautiful, invisible bike riders in low morning and evening sunlight and
 bad weather are dumb.
 Red is good.  Orange is good.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch

Pretty sure that is a Joe Starck built custom and not an Atlantis (see 
comments). -Norm in PDX
President Jimmy Carter with his Rivendell Atlantis

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Picture here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24103159@N08/3360339647


  From: Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 8:06 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red
   
It was driving me crazy trying to remember where I had seen a red Atlantis!  
I've also always liked Dave's Homer.  I've never seen it in person but the 
photo looked like a warm, metallic red. 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff1.htm
John



On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 2:52:33 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

I like the shade of red on Jimmy Carter's Atlantis:



On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 1:38:35 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
Did Rivendell ever use a shade of RED on their standard models???  If so can 
anyone provide a photo or a link to an article, reader, etc describing or 
showing it?I thought one model had a red.   I think they favor the creamy 
shades.  I know, they tend to favor blues/greys from their recent blugs.
I want to have my 1988 Panasonic Schwinn Voyageur painted in RED, and would 
like to know what if any shade Riv used in the past.   I was favoring the 
1970's Schwinn Opaque Red (non-metallic).
The frame is the original Emerald Green, which is not high on favorites.  
However, the paint has held up very good considering the 25 years.  Schwinn was 
using a clearcoat at that time, which may have helped.  Keeping it indoors 
(garage, shed) and not in a parking lot, like a car, probably also helps the 
paint.
TIA.
John HawrylakWoodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

2015-08-24 Thread Matthew J

I have a Hilsen, but that bike stays in Nantucket.  I commute on a KVA 
stainless.  Was at the Andersonville / Hollywood beach a couple evenings 
ago.  The sky was full of dragonflies.  So cool.  The native plant 
restoration long the lake front is really getting results.  

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 2:32:51 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:

 Matthew, do you have a Hillborne? 

 I saw one with a double TT on Clark in Andersonville the other day.

 On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

 On average would you say? 
 Urban, suburban, or rural?



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[RBW] Re: Riding with Young Children: was Carless?

My wife and our 2 and 5 year old love their Bike Friday Haul-a-Day. So far 
they use it for going to Mass and back on Sunday. It's steeper hills and 
dirt trails with some parts she's not comfortable riding to go anywhere 
else (like grocery shopping), but that day may come. We will see. She uses 
the car an average of 1.21498 times a week, so not bad at all, and it's 
essential for going family camping/bikepacking.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:

 I'm sort of carless and rely on bicycles for transportation. My wife owns 
 a car, so our family is not technically carless, though I rarely use the 
 car on my own. I average about 10-15 miles a day in commutes, then 
 recreational riding throughout the week  weekend.
 This has been dwindling lately as we had our first child born at the end 
 of June, and I'll tag along in the car for errands that I normally would've 
 done by bike. Add in an appendicitis surgery a few weeks ago, and I've been 
 reliant on my wife to drop me off  pick me up from work, though I should 
 be back on the bike this week.
 My question I suppose then is:
 When did you start including an infant/young child into your riding 
 routine?
 How'd you do so... specifically what equipment worked well?
 How'd you convince (if you needed to) your partner that it's safe to get 
 young children involved in cycling?

 My wife proudly joined me on commutes last year before her pregnancy. We 
 work at the same place so she's been comfortable riding with me along with 
 her the whole way. So hopefully we'll be getting family rides in as soon as 
 we can.

 David
 Chicago


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Hupe saddle bag support

I use the Nitto R12 and it works great - no mess on the paint, and you put 
a piece of inner tube or helicopter tape in critical spots.  

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 1:55:41 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Have you ever used one? They're quite the pain to install, and do a 
 fabulous job of roughing up the paint. No worries if it's for a 
 non-fabulous-paint frame, but otherwise I wouldn't advise it. 

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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread drew

newbaums
brake shoes
water bottles
tubes

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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread Lungimsam

Clear chain stay protector
Roll of twine
Silver shifter extra metal and plastic washers
Schwalbe SV 12 650b tubes
Pleatscher one leg kickstand and rubber foot
Brass ferrules
Gray brake housings cables kit
Gray shifter housing and cables kit
Spanninga fender taillight

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[RBW] Any New England tall Sam Hillbornes I can look at?

2015-08-24 Thread Kainalu

A 64 in Brooklyn if you can't find anything closer.
-Kai

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[RBW] Any New England tall Sam Hillbornes I can look at?

2015-08-24 Thread Wally Estrella

Hi Folks:

I'm strongly considering a Sam Hillborne, 62 size to be exact.  I'd like to 
base this decision from a test fit and ride rather a wanting desire.  Are 
there any 62 owners (would consider size up/down from that if needed) in 
New England?  I'm in southern ME, but would consider travel to NH, MA, VT 
or upstate ME.

Thanks in advance.

CHEERS!
Wally

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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

2015-08-24 Thread Eric

Two words. Torque wrench. I like my Effetto Mariposa. 


On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 11:37:21 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Twice this year (since replacing my front chainrings for the first time 
 since Riv’s original install of the Sugino rings) I’ve gotten a puzzling 
 squeelch/creaking when cranking. After tightening my chainring bolts (which 
 at most took a 1/4 turn), it vanished to blissful silence. I’m planning on 
 removing the bolts, scraping them through beeswax and reinstalling. Any 
 other thoughts?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*



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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado

Danger-butt or mini-danger-butt safety triangles.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:54:50 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:

 I'm putting together a Riv order to take advantage of a birthday coupon 
 and thought I'd treat myself to some extras this year.
 What are your favorite small items (under $20) that Riv carries?
 Bike or non-bike related items welcomed.
 Thanks,
 David
 Chicago


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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

2015-08-24 Thread Eric

Matthew, do you have a Hillborne? 

I saw one with a double TT on Clark in Andersonville the other day.

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

 On average would you say? 
 Urban, suburban, or rural?

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[RBW] Riding with Young Children: was Carless?

2015-08-24 Thread Toby Whitfield

We are mostly carless, with a 2 year old and another on the way. I take my 2 
year old to daycare in a back of the bike seat (Yepp Maxi). If you have your 
child on daycare close to where you live, it is a nice way to ease into it. For 
us, having a short and safe route probably helped with the easing into it. I 
like the back seat of the bike for several reasons, although if technically 
easier to do with an over 10 kg child I would like a front carrier. I don't 
feel as safe with a trailer due to the low, out of sightline nature for drivers 
and decreased manouverability. 

I got a front rack and basket so that I can throw my stuff in there when the 
kid seat is on my bike. I do wish I had a Cheviot or something with a lower top 
tube for kid hauling due to lower step over, but my city bike is what it is, 
and likely won't be upgraded till it dies or is stolen.  

It took me a while to get comfortable with having my daughter on the bike, and 
it still makes my wife nervous. I don't go everywhere that I would go myself, 
but I also think about all the people who drive on expressways with their kids 
in back of a car and am pretty confident we are probably less likely to be 
seriously injured riding on a bike on quiet streets. 

On the subject of how to do carless with kids I think it helps to live in a 
place where things are close enough to be able to do what you need to do 
without a lot of travel. I know this seems like a dodge on the question, but I 
am surprised at how many people arrange their lives (where to live and work) 
and then manage the logistics around those choices. I am lucky in that my wife 
and I both work in the same vicinity, but we have also considered those 
logistics in figuring out where to work, and where to live. 

Daycare close to home is probably the best accessory for riding with your young 
child.

The other thing that helps is to just not be a wimp about it. I have walked my 
daughter in her stroller halfway across the city, in rain and shine, winter and 
summer etc... It usually doesn't take as much time as people think it would, 
and is a good way to get some exercise in and let your kid see the world. I 
think relying on cars gives people a false sense of how difficult it is to 
carry stuff and get around without them. Now that we are biking more it is the 
same, though I think icy conditions might make me more nervous. 

Toby 
Toronto 


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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

2015-08-24 Thread Eric

Why would beeswax ever be used for this application? Is it a manufacturer 
recommendation or a Riv recommend thing? 

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[RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

2015-08-24 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch

So last Friday I celebrated my 44th with an Atlantis ramble totaling 44 
miles. I had zero plan or destination, just started going. Weather was 
awesome, route ended up with a little of everything. Pavement, trail, dirt, 
gravel, and a refreshing creek crossing or three. Did up some coffee, sat 
with my sketchbook, and just dug the day. Even took a page from the Pondero 
playbook and strapped a rolled up blanket to the Baggins to make it all 
picnic like. Talked with 3 different riders that stopped to ask about the 
vintage bike and are you making coffee?!. Always a good day to ride, 
coffeeoutside, and chat bikes. Those that don't just ride are missing out.

Pretty stoked with all the support here too, so I thought I would give away 
my newest patches with orders.

Buy a mug, get a free patch!

Hit up the ACW store http://www.bradclick.bigcartel.com
Add a mug and patch to the cart. (Works with coffee package too)
At checkout enter promo code: PATCHGAME
Get the patch free

Add to bike bag...get caffeinated...go adventure! 

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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread dougP

Straps for frame pumps.  Steel spacers for rack attachment.  

dougP

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 7:54:50 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

 I'm putting together a Riv order to take advantage of a birthday coupon 
 and thought I'd treat myself to some extras this year.
 What are your favorite small items (under $20) that Riv carries?
 Bike or non-bike related items welcomed.
 Thanks,
 David
 Chicago


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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-08-24 Thread Philip Williamson

Your shop looks and sounds fantastic!

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 1:11:09 PM UTC-7, Gravel  Grind Espresso + 
Bikes wrote:

 Hey gang,

 James, Co-owner of Gravel  Grind in Frederick MD here.  We’re the new 
 kids on the Riv Dealer block. Just a quick heads up to the list about our 
 shop and some of things we sell.  Quick once over on the shop: we only sell 
 steel bikes, and we generally only try to sell bikes with friction 
 shifting.  We’re not big fans of disc brakes, and you won’t find any bikes 
 we’ve spec’d with them.  Our main deal is taking good older steel frames 
 and reimagining them as something new and good.  IE an old Specialized 
 Rockhopper into a mountain touring bike or town bike.  Or an old Fuji road 
 bike as a 650b conversion dirt road friendly bike.  We can build a new bike 
 for ya as well, Riv, VO, Soma, Surly, All City, New Albion...  There are 
 lots of great dirt roads and fire roads near our shop, so make a day of 
 coming up, grabbing some coffee and poking around, then heading outta town 
 to explore some fantastic and hard riding.  We’ll getcha a good cue sheet, 
 mileage ranging from 24 to 100...  

 We just built up a 58cm Sam with Albatross bars for test rides.  We also 
 have a 56 Atlantis with the same bars, and a Hunq in a 51 and an Atlantis 
 in a 51 on order, ETA roughly Xmas time.  They’ll be set up with dirt 
 drops.  Currently we’re trying to stock a good amount of Riv bags, as well 
 as most of Frost River’s bag line (most of which are originally Riv 
 designs), bags from Oveja Negra (we can help with custom frame bags from 
 them), Brooks saddle bags and some Ostrich stuff as well.  We also keep 
 Albatross, various dirt drops, mustache and albastash, Noodles and Bosco 
 bars in stock.  Lots of good S24O kit in stock, we tend to go simple and 
 light on that stuff.  Ti mugs, alcohol stoves, hammocks, small good 
 headlamps.  

 Other stuff we stock that might be of interest to this list:
 -Some older Riv readers
 -Grant’s two books
 -Green Grips organic cotton bar tape in most colors
 -Lots of Brooks saddles including a brooks lending library with a Flyer, 
 B67, B17 and 2 cambiums
 -Full S240 rental kits as well as steel touring bikes for rent by the day 
 or week
 -Every size of Panaracer Pasela PT imaginable, including 650b
 -A small but good used travel book section
 -good coffee accessories from Kalita, Chemex, Snow Peak, Hario
 -Lezyne lights
 -Brooks Multi Tools

 More stuff of course, but that gives an idea.  We have a huge list of cool 
 events coming up, check them out on our website, which has some but not all 
 of our products up.  
 www.gravelandgrind.com calendar at 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread John Hawrylak

Surlyprof

Thanks for the Dave's AHH link. Nice color, a variation of the Coppertone
color. Still favoring more of pure red.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:06:49 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:

John

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 2:52:33 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

I like the shade of red on Jimmy Carter's Atlantis:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9p2BmRXu92o/VdpAmcXuU1I/AVk/7AT_PyxGIJA/s1600/2844653628_73e6f01054.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0LqjeTlgWUk/VdpAiZ4fbGI/AVc/JgtKNEip6Uc/s1600/JimmyCarteronBicycle.jpg

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 1:38:35 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:

I want to have my 1988 Panasonic Schwinn Voyageur painted in RED, and
would like to know what if any shade Riv used in the past. I was favoring
the 1970's Schwinn Opaque Red (non-metallic).

TIA.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

Patrick,
If you get to a high torque without a chain ring wrench the nut will spin. 
They are pretty inexpensive. Also make sure there is no grease on the 
threads.
If you are sensitive to Loctite you can try this...have a friend or family 
member put Loctite on the threads and let it dry. Then you should be able 
to install them.

Eric,
Bees wax is sold and used by the good people at Rivendell to use on threads 
and to fill socket head bolts ( stem) to foil thieves.

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 11:59:20 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Thanks, Jon. The scent of Locktite is problematic, and I'm fairly certain 
 I didn't use beeswax when I put them on before. I don't have a chainring 
 wrench, but spinning bolts isn't a problem so far.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

2015-08-24 Thread Garth



I've found the best way for I to tighten all the bolts, including the 
hidden one, is zero grease, zero anything ! No loctite , nothin' . Clean 
clean clean.  This way I do not even need that *silly and not very good at 
what it's supposed to do* chainring bolt tool.Just tighten them , 
GOOD !   And they stay . . .  like a nice doggie !  

I used to always grease them or use boeshield or whatever and with those I 
needed the silly tool !  More like a pita tool   . . lol. 

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[RBW] Re: SKS Fender Length/Size P50, P50/P55 Longboard

2015-08-24 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch

My mistake, I do have p50s in both longboard and original. The longboards are 
longer than the original. My understanding is that the p55s are shorter than 
the p50s because they are designed to also work with 26 tires. So I believe 
the p55 longboards would be longer than the original p55s, but shorter than the 
p50 longboards. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim

2015-08-24 Thread dougP

David:

I think I have a half.  I've never gotten both pieces into the assembly.  
I'll dig around  let you know.

doug

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 7:45:01 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jim! As mentioned, I can get them direct from Riv, just wondering 
 if someone had a set they weren't using/didn't need.

 On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net 
 javascript: wrote:

 I think I have something.

 Let me check tonight. Then I could stick in an envelope.


 On Aug 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 Anybody have an extra one to get rid of?
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb91.htm
 Need to get some A-bars set up and running. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread John Hawrylak

Bo

can you post a picture of the BMW Motorcycle red???  I remember BMW 2002s 
in red.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:36:29 PM UTC-4, bo richardson wrote:

 i had my Tanguy repainted in a closeish match to BMW motorcycle red. 
 little tomato, but still red red 
 not cream of tomato orange 
 it was nice. BMW knows their market.

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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

2015-08-24 Thread Michael Hechmer

Deac, I do find it necessary to make sure the nut is not spinning, either 
with the tool or wedging in a beefy screwdriver.  At least in the rainy NW, 
grease is a must. I don't typically use a torque wrench but I do finish off 
with a long ratchet  allen head.  At my age I can't rely on my own sense 
of strength.  The sugino triple with the stupid hidden bolt make the 
process more complicated and over time I have tried to replace them.

Michael



On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 12:37:21 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Twice this year (since replacing my front chainrings for the first time 
 since Riv’s original install of the Sugino rings) I’ve gotten a puzzling 
 squeelch/creaking when cranking. After tightening my chainring bolts (which 
 at most took a 1/4 turn), it vanished to blissful silence. I’m planning on 
 removing the bolts, scraping them through beeswax and reinstalling. Any 
 other thoughts?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Loosening Chainring Bolts

Thanks, gents! Chainring wrench on the way!

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

2015-08-24 Thread Matthew J

Musgo Real Shave Cream is real good stuff.

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 9:54:50 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:

 I'm putting together a Riv order to take advantage of a birthday coupon 
 and thought I'd treat myself to some extras this year.
 What are your favorite small items (under $20) that Riv carries?
 Bike or non-bike related items welcomed.
 Thanks,
 David
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Re: [RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

With the Miami Vice ACW Ferrari patch to help you avoid any Colombian neck 
ties!

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 6:45:45 PM UTC-6, Mark Wilkins wrote:

 Hmmm. Maybe I need a new coffee mug first...


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread Don Compton

Keven at Riv picked this red for my new Roadeo

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:

 Did Rivendell ever use a shade of RED on their standard models???  If so 
 can anyone provide a photo or a link to an article, reader, etc describing 
 or showing it?
 I thought one model had a red.   I think they favor the creamy shades.  I 
 know, they tend to favor blues/greys from their recent blugs.

 I want to have my 1988 Panasonic Schwinn Voyageur painted in RED, and 
 would like to know what if any shade Riv used in the past.   I was favoring 
 the 1970's Schwinn Opaque Red (non-metallic).

 The frame is the original Emerald Green, which is not high on favorites.  
 However, the paint has held up very good considering the 25 years.  Schwinn 
 was using a clearcoat at that time, which may have helped.  Keeping it 
 indoors (garage, shed) and not in a parking lot, like a car, probably also 
 helps the paint.

 TIA.

 John Hawrylak
 Woodstown NJ


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Re: [RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

2015-08-24 Thread Mark Wilkins

My own 44th is coming up (2 months from today), and I think I'll have to do the 
same thing. 

Hmmm. Maybe I need a new coffee mug first...

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 24, 2015, at 19:39, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 So last Friday I celebrated my 44th with an Atlantis ramble totaling 44 
 miles. I had zero plan or destination, just started going. Weather was 
 awesome, route ended up with a little of everything. Pavement, trail, dirt, 
 gravel, and a refreshing creek crossing or three. Did up some coffee, sat 
 with my sketchbook, and just dug the day. Even took a page from the Pondero 
 playbook and strapped a rolled up blanket to the Baggins to make it all 
 picnic like. Talked with 3 different riders that stopped to ask about the 
 vintage bike and are you making coffee?!. Always a good day to ride, 
 coffeeoutside, and chat bikes. Those that don't just ride are missing out.
 
 Pretty stoked with all the support here too, so I thought I would give away 
 my newest patches with orders.
 
 Buy a mug, get a free patch!
 
 Hit up the ACW store
 Add a mug and patch to the cart. (Works with coffee package too)
 At checkout enter promo code: PATCHGAME
 Get the patch free
 
 Add to bike bag...get caffeinated...go adventure! 
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[RBW] Re: Possible FS: 51cm Sam Hillborne (blue)

2015-08-24 Thread dstein

Pictures here: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0859UlCqlD9Li

Saddle and pedals not included. 

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 4:48:40 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:

 I really like this bike and I hate to sell it, but I need to thin the 
 heard and it is the most superfluous bike I have. These are also out of 
 stock until May and there seems to be a few people who were interested in 
 picking one up but missed the chance. This is relatively new and scratch 
 free. Purchased February 2016. 400 miles of mixed terrain. No crashes. 
 Prefer to sell complete but open to selling just the 
 frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket. Open to offers. Local (Bay Area) 
 preferred but happy to talk shipping if no local buyers.

- Complete - $2200 (new is $2859 for frame and build kit and the 
upgraded wheelset, plus tax and shipping.)
- Complete minus cockpit (in case you want something different than 
Albastache which I can always use on another bike): $1900
- Also available:
   - Mark’s rack - $110, (currently installed)
   - SKS longboard silver fenders - $35 (came installed but took them 
   off)

 Build: 


- Nitto Albastache Handlebar
- Nitto Tallux 8cm Stem
- Shimano Tiagra brake levers
- Shimano Dura Ace or Microshift 9-speed bar end shifters 
- Tektro R559 Sidepull Brakes
- *Sugino XD2 Crank, Triple 46x36x24*
- Rich built 32H Wheelset with Velocity A23 rims and Deore XT hubs 
($150 upgrade from standard Velocity built whilst)
- Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard Tires
- Shimano Claris Triple Front Derailer
- Shimano Deore Rear Derailer
- Tange or Shimano cartridge bottom bracket
- FSA sealed cartridge bearing headset 
- 9sp 11-32 cassette
- 9sp Chain



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread john . hawrylak

DonThanks for the photo. Do you have a closer shot.John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn 08/24/15, Don Comptondpco...@gmail.com wrote:Keven at Riv picked this red for my new RoadeoOn Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:Did Rivendell ever use a shade of RED on their standard models??? If so can anyone provide a photo or a link to an article, reader, etc describing or showing it?I thought one model had a red. I think they favor the creamy shades. I know, they tend to favor blues/greys from theirrecentblugs.I want to have my 1988 Panasonic Schwinn Voyageur painted in RED, and would like to know what if any shade Riv used in the past.I was favoring the 1970's Schwinn Opaque Red (non-metallic).The frame is the original Emerald Green, which is not high on favorites. However, the paint has held up very good considering the 25 years. Schwinn was usinga clearcoat at that time, which may have helped. Keeping it indoors (garage, shed) and not in a parking lot, like a car, probably also helps the paint.TIA.John HawrylakWoodstown NJ-- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aunQNwx9BtU/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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Re: [RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

2015-08-24 Thread Ginz

Sir,

Do you plan to offer a larger mug? 9 oz? I need that much before my feet even 
hit the floor!!

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[RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

2015-08-24 Thread Pondero

Order in!  The patch will be great on my large Saddlesack.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

Ginz,

I brew into a 20 Kleen Kanteen that is also my third water bottle (lowest), 
and with cream I get three mugs an none of them cool off too much before I 
drink them slowly.

With abandon,
Patrick  

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:26:49 PM UTC-6, Ginz wrote:

 Sir, 

 Do you plan to offer a larger mug? 9 oz? I need that much before my feet 
 even hit the floor!! 



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[RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen patch promo for muh birthday!

2015-08-24 Thread Pondero

I guess, since the stainless/olive keeps calling me, the right number of ACW 
mugs is n + 1.  Besides, it looks like a perfect match for my Hilsen.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Possible FS: 51cm Sam Hillborne (blue)

2015-08-24 Thread dstein

I've had some interest in the rack and wanted to clarify that I'm hoping to 
sell the bike first (or with). As long as the bike is in my stable I'd like 
to keep the rack on there (and fenders around) if I'm going to use it. Will 
update the thread accordingly if the bike sells and the rack and fenders 
are still available. Thanks for the interest!

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4--26.0 shim