[RBW] Re: On Paleo Topic: Moccasin patterns, instructions, and making tips?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all; these look very interesting.

I may not be into the paleo diet, as understood on the list (I'm not
convinced that our "cavemen" forbears didn't eat grains and fruit and roots
and tubers), but I am into paleo gear. I suppose that's why people laugh at
me when I wear my deerskin leggings to the mall.*

Oh well.

* I'm just *kidding,* OK? Sheesh! People are so damned *serious!*


On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> My loved and ancient pair of indoor moccasins are finally coming apart
> after years of use, and rather than buy Minnetonkas, I'd like to try making
> my own. Can anyone point me to online patterns and tips, such as how much
> and what sort of leather to buy?
>
> Mine may be Minnetonkas, but I got them new in Goodwill some 7-10 years
> ago.
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[RBW] Re: On Paleo Topic: Moccasin patterns, instructions, and making tips?

[SC]

To bring the topic around to bikes, I've found that that these REI / Wellgo 
pedals  work really well with 
leather-soled moccasins. I used to have these 
 on my bike, which 
worked great for all of my other shoes, but created temporary divots in the 
soles of my moccasins. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Odds, Ends, Bars, Bends

[Joe Bernard]

That's fine, but doesn't explain why people weren't getting responses to 
private emails. We do this parts swapping/selling stuff here based on trust, 
and that means communication. If there's ever a problem with a package getting 
sent, the seller needs to talk to the buyer(s) right away. 

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[RBW] FS: Simple One 62CM frame, new in box.

[William Wulfeck]

Actually, I took it out of the Riv shipping box to take a photo.  Bought it 
at the end of 2011, never built it up.  Includes bottom bracket, headset 
with cable hanger.  It's the dark green.  I thought it best to leave it in 
all the Riv wrapping rather than take it all off to inspect all the paint. 
Don't know exactly what it's worth, don't see any for sale.  How does $800 
sound?  Here is a photo:   
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9lhTjARIenoeUFOdGNpSjJQX3c/view

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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[Matt C.]

 I live out the outskirts of DC. My wife and I own a car, but usually only 
use it on weekends. Neither of us drive to work. Sometimes my commutes is 
just riding 4 miles each way to the train station. Most of the time during 
March-November I ride over 20 miles each way to work. It's 75% bike paths 
so it's mostly a stress free pleasant ride. Compare it to cramming into a 
train, and the riding is much preferred. Sometimes I could do as little as 
60 miles a week and other times 250 miles. I find that I average around 
100-150 per week. 

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 1:17:18 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> On average would you say? 
> Urban, suburban, or rural?

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[RBW] Re: Riv Picnic.

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The big yellow bike looks like one of Jobst Brandt's bikes...

Eamon

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 7:35:35 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> Good day for bikes, eating and meeting folks also lug tossing/fishing.
>
> Bad day for kites.
>
> Pictures proved that lug fishing is the only type of fishing needed.
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/2AsPT8 
> 
>
> Mashley
>
>
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[RBW] FS Components and Clothes mostly NIB

[RoadieRyan]

I have a stalled project and some nice clothing items I never wear and am 
trying to clear out some space and I wanted to give the group first crack 
before going to the bay.  I have provided links below so you can get all 
the details but I can provide pictures of the actual items if you'd like. 
 All prices below *include shipping* in the CONUS and they will go out via 
USPS flat rate boxes.  Payment via Paypal.  Please contact me off list if 
you are interested.  Thanks for looking

Components:

 

·   Rando Crank Grand Cru 50.4 BCD Crank-set MK II 46/30 170mm NIB 
retail $200 asking $160 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/cranks/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html
 

 

·  Thread-less Bottom Bracket Grand Cru, spindle length 118mm NIB 
retail $70 asking $45. 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/bottom-brackets/grand-cru-threadless-bottom-brackets.html
 

 

·  Shimano Deore LX M581 rear derailleur, New out of packaging never 
mounted these are gorgeous with raised lettering and they don’t make them 
anymore. Asking $50 
http://www.jensonusa.com/!HVe1ocZpK8P4r9n-JCA1mw!/Shimano-LX-M581-Rear-Derailleur
 

 

·  Origin8 Road classic brake levers drilled, gum hoods NIB retail $35 
asking $25  http://www.amazon.com/BRAKE-LEVER-OR8-CLASIQ-SPT/dp/B007HOIJFA 

 

·  Brooks B17 Imperial black, mounted and ridden once on a test ride 
retail approx. $130 asking $85 
http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/touring+&+trekking/B17+Imperial/
 

 

Clothes

 

·  DeMarchi Itaila Sweater/Jersey worn once, slim fit XL extra fine 
Merino wool blend (50%wool 50% acrylic) V-neck 3 rear pockets.  Retail $80 
Asking $50 
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/de-marchi-italia-sweater-mens?CMP_SKU=DMA000R=0406:referralID=ec84bbf8-6537-11e5-b0f7-0050569451e5
 

 

·  MUSA knickers black sized XXL never worn retail on current ones is 
$94 asking $45. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ak1.htm 

 

·  MUSA Pants grey with blue panels size XL I don’t think they make 
them anymore and I got them on clearance never worn. Asking $40

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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Edwin W]

Dareck,

I've been waiting to hear of someone putting the nut on the INSIDE of the rim. 
Makes sense to me, but I wasn't sure. 
On closer examination, I can tell my valve hole is a bit wider than the usual 
so there is more wiggle room. I redid the rim tape and cleaned everything up. 
Might try the nut on the inside so the valve stem base does not get into the 
hole. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[MartyG]

>
> Nice day and good turnout - thanks to the G team for hosting. Too many 
> bikes to list, but some familiar badges among the crowd.
>






 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60CM Blue Bombadil frame LIKE new

[Kendallspower]

I will include a Phil Wood BB XTR headset both less than 300 miles and a 
Sackville tool wrap in mint condition. 

On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 1:09:22 PM UTC-7, Kendallspower wrote:
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> Trying to gauge interest. I have 2 and I never ride the nicer one which I 
> am thinking about parting with. It was a wedding gift from 
> my wife.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires & Wald Basket-Lower Price!

[Mike OShea]

SOLD

Thank You!

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 8:52:31 AM UTC-6, Mike OShea wrote:
>
> New price $50.00
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 7:18:09 PM UTC-6, Mike OShea wrote:
>>
>> *FS: Tires & Wald Basket*
>> Pair Schwalbe Marathon Green Guard HS 420 tires 700cx 38 less than 25 
>> miles use. Included free with tires medium Wald Wire Basket. Like new 
>> condition.
>> $60.00 Free shipping CON US Paypal preferred. Please contact off list. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> Bozeman, MT.
>>
>> Picture link:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OvTRgu7ObK_AGZgLazKvwXSSW-brC4GEOnGUSAXXQIc/edit?usp=sharing
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: New(ish) Musa Pants $75 Medium

[mizrachi]

Sold.  

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:42:37 PM UTC-4, mizrachi wrote:
>
> I think I wore these once.  If that.  
>
> Green/Blue
> Size Medium
> Perfect Condition
>
> $75 shipped or $70 pickup in Brooklyn
>
>
>
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[RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[David Banzer]

I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know what 
the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, then 
looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all the 
info I could find.
The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were these 
mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were 
featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more horizontal 
angle.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[Braxton Colagross]

We have two kids, some bikes, and no car. I'm glad to not have to worry 
about traffic and parking while getting around the Bay Area. 

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:35:35 PM UTC-7, Andre Rosario wrote:
>
> I live in the SF Bay Area and I've been carless since moving here 8 years 
> ago. Most of my commute mileage is covered by the BART (subway), and I only 
> have to ride to and from BART stations. I'd guess that I end up riding 
> 10-20 miles a week. 
>
> Being carless is great. Low maintenance costs, no parking or traffic 
> tickets, no gas costs (unless you count the price of a burrito here and 
> there). I have a Zipcar account for times when I absolutely need a car but 
> that's only a few times a year. 
>
> Of course if I had kids or a job that required more travel, it'd be a lot 
> harder, but if you can find a way to make it work, I highly recommend it. 
>
> Happy riding. 
>
>
> Andre

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[RBW] FS Betty Foy.

[David B.]

I'm selling my large Betty Foy I commuted on before I retired. Standard Riv 
build with Brooks B 17 Select saddle. It has a Peter White built Schmidt 
hub and Lumotech head and tail lights. Silver thumb shifters with Paul 
brackets. Velo Orange porteur front rack and metal fenders. Nitto rear 
rack. Pletscher twin kickstand. Riv Gripster pedals. Schwalbe Marathon 
tires and Compass tires (that's two sets.) I'll send photos and will answer 
questions to anyone interested. Price $2,000.00. I'll pay the first $50.00 
shipping, you pay the rest (or pick up in Atlanta).
E-mail me at dbundric (at) gmail dotcom.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Chris Chen]

My 56cm 650b Toyo Hilsen has a SA serial number.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Minh  wrote:

> Hmm i seem to remember near the end of the Saluki run that they morphed
> into Hilsens or was it the other way around that the final Salukis got
> badged at Hilsens?
>
> Intersting that Tom's Saluki is an outlier, i think that makes it more
> desirable than a standard Saluki!
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 3:45:40 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
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>> I'll take some tonight.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[dgstringfield]

I've screwed a presta nut all the way down against the base of the tube
before installing the tube so it was on the inside of the rim.  It looked
like the rim was chewing through the tube. I didn't have any further
issues.

Dareck,
Hamden, CT


On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Those are for 2" tires, alas.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>
>> ok, saw that - Vittora hasn't made them for years.  But here, Michelin
>> from UK
>>
>> http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/Michelin-Aircomp-Latex-Tube-26x19-220-Presta-40mm-493346/MICHTUBM240?utm_campaign=Googlebase_medium=organic_source=Googlebase=US=CjwKEAjw-IOwBRD1wrTC27fSjFISJABUDZ17NnwrTDxsYQmPdtCKEkutiY23HOOyxb4bfjBJaJIY0BoCogDw_wcB=aw.ds
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not
>>> particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>>
 If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex
 tubes can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference
 in ride (and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel
 like a bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse
 from wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about tubes
 again next year.

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Re: [RBW] Re: September 20 Marin Headlands/Pre Rivendell picnic ride

[Sean Kline]

Yes—great ride! I took a few very modest photos (!) accessible here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45143961@N08/sets/72157658729630228

Cheers,
Sean

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 8:05:32 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Great ride today! Thanks to David for planning the route. Anyone have some 
> decent pics to post? Riv Picnic pictures, too?
>

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Patrick Moore]

Gotcha! I do remember that one now that I see the photo.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Here's a link to Ed's original photo:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/2155075/in/album-72157656545073274/
>
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:19:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> David: Rivendell still carries the Nitto "Saddlebag Grip" but that can't
>> be what you mean, since it is not at all angled up, as I learned the hard
>> way when I tried to mount it on a Flite. Do you in fact have a Carradice
>> "Uplift"?
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who has a Nitto S Grip on the way 'cause the downward
>> angle on a Flite don't matter with the Dahon.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>>> I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know what
>>> the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, then
>>> looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all the
>>> info I could find.
>>> The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were
>>> these mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were
>>> featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
>>> I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more horizontal
>>> angle.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Andy C.]

We use one of these to mount a country bag on my girlfriend's 47 cm 
Saluki.  There' not enough room between the seat and the tire/rack for a 
large bag, so that's where the uplift comes in.  There is a lot of hardware 
back there, what with a rack and the uplift, but it works.  The uplift 
comes our from the middle of the tombstone.
--Andy C.

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Gotcha! I do remember that one now that I see the photo.
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> Here's a link to Ed's original photo: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/2155075/in/album-72157656545073274/
>>
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:19:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> David: Rivendell still carries the Nitto "Saddlebag Grip" but that can't 
>>> be what you mean, since it is not at all angled up, as I learned the hard 
>>> way when I tried to mount it on a Flite. Do you in fact have a Carradice 
>>> "Uplift"?
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who has a Nitto S Grip on the way 'cause the downward 
>>> angle on a Flite don't matter with the Dahon.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, David Banzer  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know 
 what the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, 
 then looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all 
 the info I could find.
 The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were 
 these mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were 
 featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
 I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more 
 horizontal angle.
 David
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[RBW] Re: FS: Odds, Ends, Bars, Bends

[Justin August]

I agree.
I'm not making any excuse - just saying "I fucked up, I'm sorry, I 
understand if X, Y or Z doesn't want to do business again."

-Justin

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:32:09 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> That's fine, but doesn't explain why people weren't getting responses to 
> private emails. We do this parts swapping/selling stuff here based on 
> trust, and that means communication. If there's ever a problem with a 
> package getting sent, the seller needs to talk to the buyer(s) right away. 

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Ginz]

That's a shame David. I was second in line to buy it. 

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Minh]

So are you going to bend it out to make it a seat-post based platform?  It 
was not meant to be a platform, more of a hanger to hold the bag.  would 
like to see how far you can bend it out as it's a pretty extreme bend as it 
is.

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:33:38 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Thanks for the photo, I get it now. I think I will go ahead and try and 
> bend it horizontal to serve as an actual bottom of a saddlebag support.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 3:16:39 PM UTC-5, Andy C. wrote:
>>
>> Here's a picture.
>> --AC
>>
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:01:09 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>>>
>>> I have one of these as well. I use it on a saddle without loops. 
>>>  Contrary to the name I don't think it provides all that much lift as I 
>>> still use a rack to keep the bag off the tire. I do like how it moves the 
>>> bag a little farther back so it's not up against your butt. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS Components and Clothes mostly NIB

[RoadieRyan]

UPDATE - The components are all gone and the MUSA pants as well the 
DeMarchi Sweater and the MUSA XXL Knickers are still available 

Ryan

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-7, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> I have a stalled project and some nice clothing items I never wear and am 
> trying to clear out some space and I wanted to give the group first crack 
> before going to the bay.  I have provided links below so you can get all 
> the details but I can provide pictures of the actual items if you'd like. 
>  All prices below *include shipping* in the CONUS and they will go out 
> via USPS flat rate boxes.  Payment via Paypal.  Please contact me off list 
> if you are interested.  Thanks for looking
>
> Components:
>
>  
>
> ·   Rando Crank Grand Cru 50.4 BCD Crank-set MK II 46/30 170mm NIB 
> retail $200 asking $160 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/cranks/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  Thread-less Bottom Bracket Grand Cru, spindle length 118mm NIB 
> retail $70 asking $45. 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/bottom-brackets/grand-cru-threadless-bottom-brackets.html
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  Shimano Deore LX M581 rear derailleur, New out of packaging never 
> mounted these are gorgeous with raised lettering and they don’t make them 
> anymore. Asking $50 
> http://www.jensonusa.com/!HVe1ocZpK8P4r9n-JCA1mw!/Shimano-LX-M581-Rear-Derailleur
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  Origin8 Road classic brake levers drilled, gum hoods NIB retail 
> $35 asking $25  
> http://www.amazon.com/BRAKE-LEVER-OR8-CLASIQ-SPT/dp/B007HOIJFA 
>
>  
>
> ·  Brooks B17 Imperial black, mounted and ridden once on a test ride 
> retail approx. $130 asking $85 
> http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/touring+&+trekking/B17+Imperial/
>  
>
>  
>
> Clothes
>
>  
>
> ·  DeMarchi Itaila Sweater/Jersey worn once, slim fit XL extra fine 
> Merino wool blend (50%wool 50% acrylic) V-neck 3 rear pockets.  Retail $80 
> Asking $50 
> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/de-marchi-italia-sweater-mens?CMP_SKU=DMA000R=0406:referralID=ec84bbf8-6537-11e5-b0f7-0050569451e5
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  MUSA knickers black sized XXL never worn retail on current ones is 
> $94 asking $45. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ak1.htm 
>
>  
>
> ·  MUSA Pants grey with blue panels size XL I don’t think they make 
> them anymore and I got them on clearance never worn. Asking $40
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[Peter Adler]

*That* part doesn't bother/surprise me at all; I know lots of people who do 
that. The Bay Area is a big area geographically (about 60 miles east -west, 
about 120 miles north-south), but most people who live here don't go 
everywhere all the time. They go to the places they already know. I've 
lived less than 10 miles from Orinda for my entire life, and I know how to 
drive east to get there both on the freeway and on surface roads; but I 
routinely get lost when trying to return over the exact same surface roads. 
But I could navigate around north Alameda County blind if you stuck 
knitting needles in my eyes.

Berkeley is a city of 110,000 in a 3x3 mile square. San Francisco is 
750,000 in a 7x7 mile square. We've got a lot of people in not a lot of 
space; most of the places a parent might want to take their kids are pretty 
close, and are generally bike+public transit-accessible. San Francisco has 
a few steep places, but most of them have convenient access points (such as 
the famous "Wiggle" running through Duboce Triangle, providing a near-level 
access route from the Mission District to the Haight-Ashbury). Berkeley has 
a steep rise on the eastern edge of town, with the fancy-schmancy houses 
with nice bay views up on the hillsides. But there's no business up there, 
and fairly few people; houses in that area now start at $1.5M for fairly 
small lots. Most of us live down here in the flats, where the 
businesses/schools/public buildings are. Biking around here is easy; that's 
one of the reasons you see so many Xtracycles, *bakfietsen* and Big Dummys 
here. Just last night, I nearly collided at the bike racks at Berkeley Bowl 
West (sort of a localized Whole Foods) with a hipster dad (neckbeard, Buddy 
Holly glasses, porkpie hat) who had mounted a kid-holding thingy holding a 
nonplussed pacifier-sucking kid on the stem of his fixie-fied Pinarello. 
Fortunately, the infink had a helmet on his melon, although his dad (the 
human stereotype!) didn't.

At the beginning of the year, BART (the commuter light rail system 
masquerading as a subway) liberalized the bike rules; you can now bring a 
bike onto a train at any time, even during commute hours, as long as you 
stay out of the first car. I haven't driven to San Francisco in three 
years, although I've gone to the far corners of the City (GG Bridge, Cow 
Palace, Ocean Beach, the zoo); the combination of BART and bike has gotten 
me there pretty effectively. My trip to the RBW picnic last week consisted 
of: 

1) A 30-minute ride from my house in West Berkeley to West Oakland BART 
(the closest East Bay station to SF, and one with direct SF service on 
Sundays, unlike the Berkeley stations)
2) ten minutes on the train under the bay
3) a 30-minute ride along the Embarcadero and Marina waterfronts from 
Embarcadero BART to Fort Point (longer than it should have been, due to 
weekend tourist traffic + a craft beer festival on Marina Green)

And then the same in return. Two hours, 20 minutes transit time; when 
considering the tollbooth on the bridge and parking at Crissy Field, the 
time's probably a wash. Cash outlay was $6.20 for the BART ticket; not too 
bad, considering the bridge toll is $5 weekends and gas is currently 
slumping at $2.80/gal. Plus, the 24 miles on the bike meant I could eat 
whatever I wanted that day.

What I think of as the central Bay Area, the area around the bridges (east 
side of San Francisco, downtown/North Oakland, Emeryville, Berkeley/Albany) 
is mostly flat. It has most of the primary federal/state government 
offices, most of the museums, several of the universities. Similar setups 
exist in the South Bay and on the Peninsula; most of the 
people/businesses/destinations are in the flats, so it's fairly easy to 
bike between them. For moments when a bike won't cut it, there's always 
Uber and ZipCar, which are as common on our streets as raccoons and deer. 
And of course, just because you don't have a car doesn't mean you don't 
know anybody else who owns a car.

Peter Adler
normally about 6-8K miles a year on bikes, less than 1K in the car
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 12:40:40 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'm very curious how you manage to get 2 children to school and to 
> extra-curricular events sans auto. I know Kent Peterson (of blog and Great 
> Divide and long distance fixed gear riding) did so.So, how do you get your 
> children around and about?
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[RBW] FS: Sackville Trunksack Large- tan

[Mike OShea]

*FS: Sackville Trunk Sack Large- tan*
Very little use, some light dirt marks, excellent condition. Free with bag, 
a pair of MKS Sneaker pedals. About 5 months old, little use, a few small 
scratches. Very good condition!
Asking $90.00 Free shipping CONUS Paypal preferred. Please contact off 
list. 

Thanks, Mike

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Patrick Moore]

David: Rivendell still carries the Nitto "Saddlebag Grip" but that can't be
what you mean, since it is not at all angled up, as I learned the hard way
when I tried to mount it on a Flite. Do you in fact have a Carradice
"Uplift"?

Patrick Moore, who has a Nitto S Grip on the way 'cause the downward angle
on a Flite don't matter with the Dahon.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know what
> the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, then
> looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all the
> info I could find.
> The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were
> these mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were
> featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
> I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more horizontal
> angle.
> David
> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[David Banzer]

It's Nitto, mounts to the seatpost. I'm guessing Riv sold these in the 
early 00s.
David
Chicago

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:19:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> David: Rivendell still carries the Nitto "Saddlebag Grip" but that can't 
> be what you mean, since it is not at all angled up, as I learned the hard 
> way when I tried to mount it on a Flite. Do you in fact have a Carradice 
> "Uplift"?
>
> Patrick Moore, who has a Nitto S Grip on the way 'cause the downward angle 
> on a Flite don't matter with the Dahon.
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know what 
>> the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, then 
>> looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all the 
>> info I could find.
>> The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were 
>> these mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were 
>> featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
>> I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more horizontal 
>> angle.
>> David
>> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Edwin W]

I did it. We will see how it goes!

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Julian]

I've got a shed outside: 

https://flic.kr/p/ySHjTJ

Not a great photo -- it's sort of hard to stand outside the door and get a 
good shot, but standing inside you can't see the whole storage wall in a 
photo. 

1/2 of this shed has our tandems (2) and my most-used bikes (4) and a cargo 
trailer -- the rest is garden related and wood shop storage. Projects and 
my wife's single bikes are in the basement. Storage via cheap and easy 
hooks and homemade scrap brackets. 

For working on bikes, if the weather is good, I set up a work stand on the 
patio, if, bad, in the basement.  

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 12:11:49 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
>
> for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage. 
> 1.5ish car size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by 
> my spouse, who just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the 
> rafters.  im very excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration 
> for how to make the space great. I figured that there must be some 
> crossover of people who appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a 
> nicely designed and set up workshop. 
>
> it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working 
> on them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge, 
> and a general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools. 
>
> i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also 
> interested in...
>
> -small space problem solving storage things
> -bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
> -general style points or clever add ons
> -workbenches
> -links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
> -other stuff im forgetting.
>
> in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have 
> been housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying 
> blind.
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[David Banzer]

Thanks for the photo, I get it now. I think I will go ahead and try and 
bend it horizontal to serve as an actual bottom of a saddlebag support.
David
Chicago

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 3:16:39 PM UTC-5, Andy C. wrote:
>
> Here's a picture.
> --AC
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:01:09 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>>
>> I have one of these as well. I use it on a saddle without loops. 
>>  Contrary to the name I don't think it provides all that much lift as I 
>> still use a rack to keep the bag off the tire. I do like how it moves the 
>> bag a little farther back so it's not up against your butt. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[David Banzer]

Here's a link to Ed's original photo: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/2155075/in/album-72157656545073274/
David
Chicago

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:19:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> David: Rivendell still carries the Nitto "Saddlebag Grip" but that can't 
> be what you mean, since it is not at all angled up, as I learned the hard 
> way when I tried to mount it on a Flite. Do you in fact have a Carradice 
> "Uplift"?
>
> Patrick Moore, who has a Nitto S Grip on the way 'cause the downward angle 
> on a Flite don't matter with the Dahon.
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know what 
>> the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, then 
>> looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all the 
>> info I could find.
>> The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were 
>> these mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were 
>> featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
>> I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more horizontal 
>> angle.
>> David
>> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Patrick Moore]

Photo please?

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:27 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> It's Nitto, mounts to the seatpost. I'm guessing Riv sold these in the
> early 00s.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 2:19:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> David: Rivendell still carries the Nitto "Saddlebag Grip" but that can't
>> be what you mean, since it is not at all angled up, as I learned the hard
>> way when I tried to mount it on a Flite. Do you in fact have a Carradice
>> "Uplift"?
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who has a Nitto S Grip on the way 'cause the downward
>> angle on a Flite don't matter with the Dahon.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>>> I picked up one of these from a list member and just wanted to know what
>>> the history behind this was. I've read these were sold by Rivendell, then
>>> looks like they were discontinued altogether, though that's about all the
>>> info I could find.
>>> The up angle certainly is extreme to me for a saddlebag support. Were
>>> these mainly to keep a bag from rubbing on the rear tire? Maybe these were
>>> featured in a Riv Reader at some point?
>>> I may have a rainy day project of changing the bend to a more horizontal
>>> angle.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[cyclotourist]

Dareck, sooo going to try this prior to drilling the rims!!!

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:03 AM, dgstringfield 
wrote:

> I've screwed a presta nut all the way down against the base of the tube
> before installing the tube so it was on the inside of the rim.  It looked
> like the rim was chewing through the tube. I didn't have any further
> issues.
>
> Dareck,
> Hamden, CT
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Those are for 2" tires, alas.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> ok, saw that - Vittora hasn't made them for years.  But here, Michelin
>>> from UK
>>>
>>> http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/Michelin-Aircomp-Latex-Tube-26x19-220-Presta-40mm-493346/MICHTUBM240?utm_campaign=Googlebase_medium=organic_source=Googlebase=US=CjwKEAjw-IOwBRD1wrTC27fSjFISJABUDZ17NnwrTDxsYQmPdtCKEkutiY23HOOyxb4bfjBJaJIY0BoCogDw_wcB=aw.ds
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not
 particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.

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> If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex
> tubes can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference
> in ride (and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel
> like a bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse
> from wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about 
> tubes
> again next year.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[Patrick Moore]

I'm very curious how you manage to get 2 children to school and to
extra-curricular events sans auto. I know Kent Peterson (of blog and Great
Divide and long distance fixed gear riding) did so.

I drive between 4 and 5k miles a year, of which less than 1 K is for
myself, when I need to load up at Costco or take wheels or frame or bike to
the bike shop, or haul things from Home Depot. The rest is moving my
14-year-old daughter to and from her mother's house and to and from
skating, tennis, parties, get togethers, shopping. Add another 1 K in a
rental when I take her to camp outside of Colorado Springs each year -- I
live in ABQ, NM.

ABQ of course is a typical SW city: fewer than 550K inhabitants in the
limits, but spread out over many miles. And Catie's mother delights in
scheduling events for her diagonally across town. There is no way I could
use public transportation, although, for a SW city, ABQ's is pretty good --
I think our car/car-less situation is far better than that of Phoenix, for
example.

Note that my car ('06 PT Cruiser with back seats removed) costs me in total
roughly $150/month including long-term repair bills, assuming that the car
will last another 10 years at 5K/year, or that I can sell it before hand
for a few K. (Actually, my daughter recently asked me, "Dad, can I have
your car when I turn 15?" She knows how little I drive it for myself. I may
just give it to her.)

So, how do you get your children around and about?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Braxton Colagross <
braxtoncolagr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have two kids, some bikes, and no car. I'm glad to not have to worry
> about traffic and parking while getting around the Bay Area.
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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[Peter Adler]

I understand what you mean, but in order to ensure logical consistency:

Unless you live on the ridgeline, way out in the sticks (La Honda maybe, or 
Sunol), or you have access to some invisible road system that the rest of 
us Bay Area riders don't have, traffic and parking are daily issues for 
*everyone* using those roads - cyclists included. You may worry about them 
less than you would if you were using a car, but the issue itself doesn't 
go away just because your car does. There's still hundreds of thousands of 
cars out there.

This just pushed my button, because there's been a localized hurricane of 
reckless careless idiot driving in Berkeley/North Oakland over the last 
four days (maybe from the hot weather?), and dodging fools has really been 
stressing me out. And I'm not even ferrying kids.

Peter "Road Survivalist" Adler
15-40 city miles per day, while the car's battery drains in my driveway 
again in
Berkeley, CA/USA

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> (...)and no car. I'm glad to not have to worry about traffic and parking 
> while getting around the Bay Area.
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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[islaysteve]

I second the thanks to James and the gang at G  It was a fun event with lots 
of bikes and gear to look at.  I was there in the morning and enjoyed talking 
to James and several other folks, including fellow Bleriot owner QKSLVR66.  G 
carries many bikes and items that aren't necessarily shown on their website, so 
it's definitely worth the trip to check it out.  The waffles looked tasty but I 
didn't have one today.  Coffee was great.  Thanks, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Minh]

I have one of these as well. I use it on a saddle without loops.  Contrary to 
the name I don't think it provides all that much lift as I still use a rack to 
keep the bag off the tire. I do like how it moves the bag a little farther back 
so it's not up against your butt. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Odds, Ends, Bars, Bends

[Joe Bernard]

Fair enough, I've screwed up more times than I can count (I'm older than 
you, I've had more time at it). One time I just flat forgot about a sale I 
made..had no clue someone was waiting 'til they emailed me. Not good!

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote:
>
> I agree.
> I'm not making any excuse - just saying "I fucked up, I'm sorry, I 
> understand if X, Y or Z doesn't want to do business again."
>
> -Justin
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:32:09 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> That's fine, but doesn't explain why people weren't getting responses to 
>> private emails. We do this parts swapping/selling stuff here based on 
>> trust, and that means communication. If there's ever a problem with a 
>> package getting sent, the seller needs to talk to the buyer(s) right away. 
>
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[RBW] Kitsap Color Classic

[Andy Williams]

40 miles and plenty of climbing today on the Kitsap Color Classic 
, including a trip through the 
Scandinavian enclave of Poulsbo, where the Blue Riot was introduced to the 
Tiny Viking 
. 


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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Ron Mc]

I'm happy with my Nitto R15 bag support, which wedges in the seat stays -  



my canti brakes need the Nitto wire cage and the two together put the bag 
in just the right place.  




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[RBW] Dahon Hon Solo, Front Loader

[Christopher Murray]

Looks great! How does it ride? Fold? Would love to hear your impressions. I 
assume it is fixed? The crank looks great. 

Enjoy!
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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Uplift Support Info.

[Joe Bernard]

I believe you are right, Minh, the straps are intended to mount at the top 
of the Uplift instead of to the saddle. This is how the product "uplifts" 
the bag compared to it's placement on the bag loops. 

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 3:19:56 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>
> So are you going to bend it out to make it a seat-post based platform?  It 
> was not meant to be a platform, more of a hanger to hold the bag.  would 
> like to see how far you can bend it out as it's a pretty extreme bend as it 
> is.
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:33:38 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the photo, I get it now. I think I will go ahead and try and 
>> bend it horizontal to serve as an actual bottom of a saddlebag support.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 3:16:39 PM UTC-5, Andy C. wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a picture.
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>>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:01:09 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:

 I have one of these as well. I use it on a saddle without loops. 
  Contrary to the name I don't think it provides all that much lift as I 
 still use a rack to keep the bag off the tire. I do like how it moves the 
 bag a little farther back so it's not up against your butt. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: On Paleo Topic: Moccasin patterns, instructions, and making tips?

[Leslie]

I wanted a pair of Carl Dyer's rendezvous moccs, but could never bring 
myself to cough up that much dough for, moccasins...You might 
appreciate the photos, info, off of their site, at least:  
http://carldyers.com/ 



On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 7:52:46 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> My loved and ancient pair of indoor moccasins are finally coming apart 
> after years of use, and rather than buy Minnetonkas, I'd like to try making 
> my own. Can anyone point me to online patterns and tips, such as how much 
> and what sort of leather to buy?
>
> Mine may be Minnetonkas, but I got them new in Goodwill some 7-10 years 
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