[RBW] Re: Kingsport library canti-Romulus sighting

2015-11-11 Thread jtallman
Hello Leslie - the Romulus you saw had to be mine. I work at the library 
and did not come down to get it until quitting time, so you might have had 
a long wait.

I added some fenders to it over the weekend and the tires you saw, which 
were SwiftTire Sand Canyon 27'' tires, will not clear the rear fender. Now 
it has Jack Brown Greens.

Hope to see your Romulus sometime as well,

Jon Tallman


On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 10:47:48 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:
>
> So, unlike the SF Bay area, there aren't as many Rivendells around here.   
> Thanks to MSL in Bristol, there's several, tho'...  I usually see them on 
> the Creeper, or at Steele Creek;   in Kingsport itself, other than my own, 
> I've only seen one other Rivendell, was a Quickbeam out on our Greenbelt. 
>
> Until, Thursday, long crazy day that's a whole other story, but I found 
> myself in downtown Kingsport that afternoon, canvasing the area by bike for 
> hours.   While riding around the downtown area, on my canti-Rom, what did I 
> find parked outside of the library, but, another canti-Rom.   My older 
> daughter just happened to meet me in the downtown area at the library when 
> I was arriving, and although she's not a 'bike person', even she noticed, 
> "wow, that bike is *exactly* like your bike, eerily so!".   Of course, 
> being a canti-Rom, it was the same light blue, but this one had a Selle 
> Anatomica whereas mine are all Brooks, my tires were a lot larger (I'm 
> pushing it, running MSO's, whereas this one has sensible 32's on it)... It 
> was undecaled, the Romulus downtube decal had been removed, but, if you 
> knew what you were looking at, it was unmistakable that it was the same 
> frame as mine.
>
> I didn't think it good form to go into the library hollerin' out, who's on 
> the Ram, and I still had a lot of ground to cover, couldn't just wait and 
> see who came out.
>  
> Anywho, just wondering if there's someone else in Kingsport here on the 
> list, that I'd not known about  just reaching out to say hello 
>
>
>
> -L
>
>

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[RBW] Mount Diablo trails ride

2015-11-11 Thread dstein
Is anyone interested in riding some trails at Mt. Diablo or at least have 
some good recommendations? 

I have only ridden south gate and north gate roads to the top, but never 
any of the trails (outside of Shell Ridge and Diablo foothills Regional 
Park anyway). 

Would love get a group out there to hit some up. Maybe the 1st weekend of 
December depending on weather.

I'm looking at three on Bay Area Rides: Mitchell Canyon to the top, 
Mothers/Diablo Ranch/Buckeye Trails, and Oyster Point trail. I'm assuming 
these are all fire roads?

Let me know if anyone is interested or has some good routes.

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-11 Thread Edwin W
Here  
is a Flikr album of the few photos I have taken.

Edwin

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[RBW] How to clean a Brooks saddle?

2015-11-11 Thread Marc Irwin
I'd use proofride and forget it.  Rubbing it with a wet cloth won't hurt it.  
I've used their saddles for 40 years.  Rack one has been soaking wet several 
times without causing a problem. People make too big a deal of it.  Try to keep 
them dry but don't panic over it.

Marc

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-11 Thread Edwin W
OK! Getting there. Need to wrap grips and get a bell, need a mm or so of 
spacing at the bashguard so the chain doesn't rub... some other fine tuning 
is needed, I am sure. The basket is probably too big, but my son said he 
liked it this morning so we can hold on to it for awhile. 
Setting up the front brakes AFTER I had installed the rack was not very 
smart. first I found out that I needed to flip the connecting plate to get 
under the wire and there just was not a lot of room to maneuver.

Thanks everyone for their advice and help. I probably spent 20 hours doing 
what a good mechanic could do in 2, but if I only value myself at $1 an 
hour (that is generous) I saved a lot of money. Kidding aside, this is my 
second full build and it helped me learn a lot.






Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-11 Thread Zed Martinez
Looking good, Edwin!. I like how even in different builds these Clems tend 
to just have a good solid "bikeyness" to them. They're never really any 
particular type of bike, just, yanno, a bike.

As an update on mine with the albastache, I was finally able to get back on 
it this morning after a few days off from a leg injury. In the meanwhile, I 
switched to an 80mm dirt drop stem I got off another group member, and it 
works exactly as advertised when paired with the albstache. Tall and close. 
I probably could have lived with the 80mm Technomic, it was comfy and fine, 
but it was biased a bit more towards the sporty end, and felt just a bit 
short of comfy upright back in the wings. Not a problem now. In the wings 
it has a very north roads upright feel, I have a back angle maybe somewhere 
in the 70 degree range. Pleasant for slowing down and taking things in. But 
unlike the north roads I have the spots through the hooks, and then on the 
brake bodies was great this morning ducking out of an annoying cold 
headwind. Not as fast as when my bars were much lower, but enough to 
nullify the wind, and having the comfy upright at the ends now is a good 
compromise.

Here's a shot of the final setup regarding that:




The bars sure look way the heck up there in that shot, but they don't ride 
like it at all. In the hooks I really feel more like I'm on a sportier flat 
bar bike. Brilliantly weird geometry, these Clems.


The one other thing I have to do (and warn about, I suppose) is switch out 
my front canti for a low profile I have arriving this evening. On the 52cm 
frame, the wide frog-leg cantis do clear the Surly rack just fine, but 
they're right smack dab in the way of hanging my panniers in either the low 
or high spots. D'oh! Throwing a cheap Oryx on there for now while the bike 
is just pulling the usual light duty. I'll see about saving up for a Paul 
maybe down the road, or if I'm feeling like spending way too much just for 
aesthetics maybe I'll buy the matching Grand Cru Zeste low profiles and 
just deal with having two sets of high/low profile cantis. Seriously, why 
doesn't VO sell those by the wheel, anyway?


On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:45:22 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Here  
> is a Flikr album of the few photos I have taken.
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

2015-11-11 Thread Garth
  Johnny, 

   If you choose a 48/34 the Sugino Mighty Tour is every bit and more than 
the Alpina ever was . Smooth anodising on both sides of course :)  And 
their best  chainrings to boot. 
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hasirin/imgs/9/f/9f1c5606.jpg
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hasirin/imgs/b/4/b4b42a96.jpg
http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/pdf/original_twocranksblogcomp.pdf

As for the 48/34 vs. a 46/30 I'd say it depends on your cassette range and 
your personal prefernece .  I'm not a fan of riding smaller rings than a 34 
for anything but steep hills, meaning not riding in them for a long time. 
I'd rather use a 36 with larger cogs the majority of hills.

   I ride 50/36 with 7sp. 13-32 FW and 48/36/24 with 6sp. 13-28 for my 
bikes and on flat terrain ride mostly in the 36 for both bikes and the 
between the middle and large ring for higher speeds. I pretty much use all 
6 and 7 cogs per ride .  A 46/30 would not be real uselful for me , but 
again, this is personal preference and opinion as is everyone's input here. 
The bottom line , no one's opinion matters but your own, know your self and 
your style of riding.




On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I am pretty sure that the IRD is the same as the VO cranks.  I actually 
> have no problem with getting the cranks and chainrings seperately but it 
> seems like that would make my decision harder as then I need to decide on 
> what crank arms to get and what chainrings to pair them too, etc.  My brain 
> is already overloaded.  I suppose I could get an Alpine 2 which is a nice 
> crankset and just replace the large ring with a 48.  The Rene Herse looks 
> great too (although expensive) but now you guys are making me thing that 
> the IRD Defiant Wide might be the way to go.
>

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[RBW] Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on Bosco Bars?

2015-11-11 Thread Doug Williams
I was thinking of putting Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on my Bosco 
Bars. Riv says that they don't fit Bosco's because the clamp diameter of 
the bars is 22.2mm and the Interrupter levers are designed for a 24.0 clamp 
diameter bars. But...really? Can't I just add a wrap or two of friction 
tape to the bars before I put on the Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers? 
What about just putting them on over the bar wrap? (I use shellacked 
Newbaums)

Has anyone had success with the Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on 
Bosco's? Are there other good interrupter levers that work with Bosco's?

Doug

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-11 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Zed, what is the light you are using here? How is it clamping to rack 
diameter tubing? Thanks!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 11:00:28 AM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
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>
>
> Here's a shot of the final setup regarding that:
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-11 Thread Zed Martinez
Mark, it's just a Cygolite OSP with external pack, a discontinued model 
(picked it up on clearance at some point for peanuts) but I think the 
Mitycross line is the same stuff. It's just a handlebar mount, but even 
with the provided padding I couldn't quite get it tight enough so I just 
used some electrical tape to help me wrap another thin piece of rubber 
padding from some other light mount around to make the tubing a fatter 
diameter there. After a couple of rounds of trial and error I got just the 
right fatness for the clamp to catch properly. It's more secure than it 
looks like it oughtta be, Then I just strap the pack to the front of the 
rack on the underside. Like this:




On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:09:33 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Zed, what is the light you are using here? How is it clamping to rack 
> diameter tubing? Thanks!
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 11:00:28 AM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's a shot of the final setup regarding that:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] What length Silver Cranks came on your Clem?

2015-11-11 Thread Tim Wood
My 59cm Clem came with a 178 crank arm length, which got me thinking about how 
that relates to saddle height and bb clearance etc. I've always run 175's but 
is 3mm something to concern myself with? Probably not. 

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Re: [RBW] Mount Diablo trails ride

2015-11-11 Thread René Sterental
What is this Bay Area Rivendell Riders Group? Is it open?

René

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015, dstein  wrote:

> Oh whoops, I meant to post this in the Bay Area Rivendell Riders goggle
> group which is a group I started so I wouldn't flood this one with regional
> ride threads. I'll post over there and use that to reply with:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bay-area-rivendell-riders/fLkSjpDRcuU
>
> Neil - thanks for the pointers and if you're down I'm down. Check out the
> other thread and we can work out logistics, I'm sure others will join.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 12:50:39 PM UTC-8, Neil wrote:
>>
>> Mitchell Canyon - Deer Flat - Devil's Elbow - Prospectors Gap is a
>> classic dirt route. Lot's o' climbing, though. My recollection is that the
>> only singletrack was Devil's Elbow and North Peak Trail...some exposure
>> there, too...followed by crazy-fast FR descent on Prospectors Gap.
>>
>> I rode the Oyster Point loop years ago, and remember it being pretty fun.
>> Kind of out of the way trailhead, but probably ideal for a mixed terrain
>> ride where you ride out there from town. Not as much climbing over there,
>> and I seem to recall quite a bit of singletrack. Not as many park users,
>> either.
>>
>> I'd be down for this ride.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in riding some trails at Mt. Diablo or at least
>>> have some good recommendations?
>>>
>>> I have only ridden south gate and north gate roads to the top, but never
>>> any of the trails (outside of Shell Ridge and Diablo foothills Regional
>>> Park anyway).
>>>
>>> Would love get a group out there to hit some up. Maybe the 1st weekend
>>> of December depending on weather.
>>>
>>> I'm looking at three on Bay Area Rides: Mitchell Canyon to the top,
>>> Mothers/Diablo Ranch/Buckeye Trails, and Oyster Point trail. I'm assuming
>>> these are all fire roads?
>>>
>>> Let me know if anyone is interested or has some good routes.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

2015-11-11 Thread Lungimsam
I'm eyeing this SON seatpost dyno tail light, though it doesn't have a 
reflector. Wouldn't have to drill/cut fender to run wires and mount light. 

http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/ruecklichter_en.html

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 4:56:08 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

> Before I cut holes into a Honjo fender, does the Spaninga even sit right 
> against the hammered contours, or is it a no go?
>
> Can you get it to sit flush or do the contours make it sit other than 
> optimal? Don't want to stress the fender.
>

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Re: [RBW] Mount Diablo trails ride

2015-11-11 Thread davecstein
Yeah absolutely, go check it out on the link below and feel free to post rides 
or join some roses. You'll need to request membership to keep the spammers out 
but I'll approve you right away.

It's pretty small. I started it earlier in the year to meet up with local 
rivendell riders since there seems to be so many. Got a good core group of 
people on there, we get together once a month or so and have a few people that 
post a mix of paced, trail, and s240's. Mostly seems to be east and north bay 
but all are welcome across the bay and whatever bike you ride, rivendell or 
not. 

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:09 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> 
> What is this Bay Area Rivendell Riders Group? Is it open?
> 
> René 
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015, dstein  wrote:
>> Oh whoops, I meant to post this in the Bay Area Rivendell Riders goggle 
>> group which is a group I started so I wouldn't flood this one with regional 
>> ride threads. I'll post over there and use that to reply with: 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bay-area-rivendell-riders/fLkSjpDRcuU
>> 
>> Neil - thanks for the pointers and if you're down I'm down. Check out the 
>> other thread and we can work out logistics, I'm sure others will join. 
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 12:50:39 PM UTC-8, Neil wrote:
>>> Mitchell Canyon - Deer Flat - Devil's Elbow - Prospectors Gap is a classic 
>>> dirt route. Lot's o' climbing, though. My recollection is that the only 
>>> singletrack was Devil's Elbow and North Peak Trail...some exposure there, 
>>> too...followed by crazy-fast FR descent on Prospectors Gap.
>>> 
>>> I rode the Oyster Point loop years ago, and remember it being pretty fun. 
>>> Kind of out of the way trailhead, but probably ideal for a mixed terrain 
>>> ride where you ride out there from town. Not as much climbing over there, 
>>> and I seem to recall quite a bit of singletrack. Not as many park users, 
>>> either. 
>>> 
>>> I'd be down for this ride.
>>> 
 On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote:
 Is anyone interested in riding some trails at Mt. Diablo or at least have 
 some good recommendations? 
 
 I have only ridden south gate and north gate roads to the top, but never 
 any of the trails (outside of Shell Ridge and Diablo foothills Regional 
 Park anyway). 
 
 Would love get a group out there to hit some up. Maybe the 1st weekend of 
 December depending on weather.
 
 I'm looking at three on Bay Area Rides: Mitchell Canyon to the top, 
 Mothers/Diablo Ranch/Buckeye Trails, and Oyster Point trail. I'm assuming 
 these are all fire roads?
 
 Let me know if anyone is interested or has some good routes.
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Niles Canyon Ride

2015-11-11 Thread Surlyprof
Joe,

I just saw on the Riv site that I misspelled your last name.  Sorry about 
that.

John

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 8:33:36 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> A couple of weeks ago our lovely Niles Canyon that stretches between my 
> quaint little neighborhood of Niles in Fremont, CA and Sunol, CA was 
> closed.  The first day was for Caltrans maintenance but the second day was 
> for a full day Roll and Stroll through the canyon.  There were roving bands 
> of Charlie Chaplains since many a silent movie was shot in the canyon 
> including Chaplain's "The Tramp" and Essenay's Bronco Billy westerns. 
>  There were also people coming in from all over the bay area to enjoy a 
> carless Niles Canyon.  Although Niles Canyon is a popular riding area, it 
> can be a little tight in spots creating the occasional white-knuckle 
> encounter with passing cars so a closed canyon was greeted with great 
> enthusiasm.  A group of Bay Area Riv Riders were meeting in Pleasanton to 
> start their ride to the canyon.  Since I lived in Niles, I rode up to 
> Pleasanton to meet them.  After a slight delay at the Pleasanton BART, the 
> group rolled down Foothill Road to the Pleasanton Ridge State Park where I 
> was waiting to join them.  It was a gorgeous day for a ride in the canyon. 
>  As we rode through the canyon to climb Palomares Road, the Niles Canyon 
> Railway train passed overhead and we were greeted by the waving passengers. 
>  Our Palomares climb was interrupted near the top when we decided to to try 
> the group's first mid-ride wine stop at the Westover Winery in Palomares 
> Canyon.  I didn't get any pictures in the winery since we were busy 
> chatting and tasting but I did get a few pictures of the inventive ways 
> Tony and Evan attached bottles to their bikes for the ride home.  We parted 
> ways at the summit and each enjoyed our own wild descents down different 
> sides of Palomares Road.  
>
> Thanks to Tony, Evan, Roger, Daniel and Riv's own Joe Bundik for a nice 
> afternoon ride.  Here are the photos: 
> https://goo.gl/photos/Sioxwa699QVaKEgH7
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

2015-11-11 Thread Anton Tutter
Yes, I forgot about this. Spanninga uses a weird connector that was 
designed to let you use bare stripped wires, but it pinches them against 
the fender.

Anton

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On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 7:06:38 PM UTC-5, Don Funke wrote:
>
> You may need to take the light apart and solder the contacts for the light 
> to fit flush against the fender. It's a hassle, but I had to go that route. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 2:56:08 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Before I cut holes into a Honjo fender, does the Spaninga even sit right 
>> against the hammered contours, or is it a no go?
>>
>> Can you get it to sit flush or do the contours make it sit other than 
>> optimal? Don't want to stress the fender.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2x10 atlantis crankset options?

2015-11-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
What ring sizes will you be using?

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 3:11:04 PM UTC-8, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> building up a 2x10 atlantis and looking for recommendations for a double 
> crankset. I know with the bowed out chain stays the clearance is an issue. 
> I would love to use the following cranks (WI VBC, TA cyclotouriste, velo 
> orange, etc. Oh and if anyone has used any of them, what spindle length bb 
> did you use. Please help get me on the road!
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

2015-11-11 Thread Lungimsam
Thanks for the info, everyone.
I like the Velo Lumino light.
I like that it has a reflector built in so I can comply with RUSA rules, 
and have added safety. The looks would definitely match the Honjos.

But it is more than I would like to pay for a taillight at this time.
But worth it for the long run. So I can see myself getting one some 
time...if Velo Lumino ever has a sale going on...hint, 
hint...hint?...Anton, you there?

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[RBW] Re: Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

2015-11-11 Thread Don Funke
You may need to take the light apart and solder the contacts for the light 
to fit flush against the fender. It's a hassle, but I had to go that route. 

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 2:56:08 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Before I cut holes into a Honjo fender, does the Spaninga even sit right 
> against the hammered contours, or is it a no go?
>
> Can you get it to sit flush or do the contours make it sit other than 
> optimal? Don't want to stress the fender.
>

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[RBW] What length Silver Cranks came on your Clem?

2015-11-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm curious what length crankarms Riv is shipping on the Complete Clems. 
 What size bike did you receive, and what crank arm length did you get?  I 
assume the Silver cranks, like most other cranks, say the crank arm length 
on the inner surface of either crank arm.  Jan Heine and his most devoted 
followers think that crank arm length is overblown, and that everyone in 
the "normal" range of heights can use 170mm arms.  Only the SUPER tall who 
need >200s and the super short who need <150s should be asking for 
different sizes ATJO (According To Jan's Opinion).  Grant is more on the 
proportional size kick.  Wheelsize should be proportional to bike size 
which is proportional to person-size. 

So, did the Clem get spec'd kind of one-size-fits-all with respect to crank 
arm length?  Or did they get set up proportionally?  I'm eager to know.  It 
might be a preview for what I receive on my Joe Appaloosa.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Mount Diablo trails ride

2015-11-11 Thread Neil
Mitchell Canyon - Deer Flat - Devil's Elbow - Prospectors Gap is a classic 
dirt route. Lot's o' climbing, though. My recollection is that the only 
singletrack was Devil's Elbow and North Peak Trail...some exposure there, 
too...followed by crazy-fast FR descent on Prospectors Gap.

I rode the Oyster Point loop years ago, and remember it being pretty fun. 
Kind of out of the way trailhead, but probably ideal for a mixed terrain 
ride where you ride out there from town. Not as much climbing over there, 
and I seem to recall quite a bit of singletrack. Not as many park users, 
either. 

I'd be down for this ride.

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote:
>
> Is anyone interested in riding some trails at Mt. Diablo or at least have 
> some good recommendations? 
>
> I have only ridden south gate and north gate roads to the top, but never 
> any of the trails (outside of Shell Ridge and Diablo foothills Regional 
> Park anyway). 
>
> Would love get a group out there to hit some up. Maybe the 1st weekend of 
> December depending on weather.
>
> I'm looking at three on Bay Area Rides: Mitchell Canyon to the top, 
> Mothers/Diablo Ranch/Buckeye Trails, and Oyster Point trail. I'm assuming 
> these are all fire roads?
>
> Let me know if anyone is interested or has some good routes.
>

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[RBW] Re: Mount Diablo trails ride

2015-11-11 Thread dstein
Oh whoops, I meant to post this in the Bay Area Rivendell Riders goggle 
group which is a group I started so I wouldn't flood this one with regional 
ride threads. I'll post over there and use that to reply with: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bay-area-rivendell-riders/fLkSjpDRcuU

Neil - thanks for the pointers and if you're down I'm down. Check out the 
other thread and we can work out logistics, I'm sure others will join. 

Dave

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 12:50:39 PM UTC-8, Neil wrote:
>
> Mitchell Canyon - Deer Flat - Devil's Elbow - Prospectors Gap is a classic 
> dirt route. Lot's o' climbing, though. My recollection is that the only 
> singletrack was Devil's Elbow and North Peak Trail...some exposure there, 
> too...followed by crazy-fast FR descent on Prospectors Gap.
>
> I rode the Oyster Point loop years ago, and remember it being pretty fun. 
> Kind of out of the way trailhead, but probably ideal for a mixed terrain 
> ride where you ride out there from town. Not as much climbing over there, 
> and I seem to recall quite a bit of singletrack. Not as many park users, 
> either. 
>
> I'd be down for this ride.
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone interested in riding some trails at Mt. Diablo or at least have 
>> some good recommendations? 
>>
>> I have only ridden south gate and north gate roads to the top, but never 
>> any of the trails (outside of Shell Ridge and Diablo foothills Regional 
>> Park anyway). 
>>
>> Would love get a group out there to hit some up. Maybe the 1st weekend of 
>> December depending on weather.
>>
>> I'm looking at three on Bay Area Rides: Mitchell Canyon to the top, 
>> Mothers/Diablo Ranch/Buckeye Trails, and Oyster Point trail. I'm assuming 
>> these are all fire roads?
>>
>> Let me know if anyone is interested or has some good routes.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What length Silver Cranks came on your Clem?

2015-11-11 Thread Wayne Naha
Each size Clem got it's own specific crank arm length.  My size, the 52cm, 
was spec'd to get 172.5mm crank arms.  The arms are actually marked '173' 
but I suppose marking them '172.5' would be overkill.  The small Clem was 
supposed to get 170mm arms.  I forget what the large Clem would get, 175mm 
arms maybe, but I forget exactly.

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 3:10:47 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm curious what length crankarms Riv is shipping on the Complete Clems. 
>  What size bike did you receive, and what crank arm length did you get?  I 
> assume the Silver cranks, like most other cranks, say the crank arm length 
> on the inner surface of either crank arm.  Jan Heine and his most devoted 
> followers think that crank arm length is overblown, and that everyone in 
> the "normal" range of heights can use 170mm arms.  Only the SUPER tall who 
> need >200s and the super short who need <150s should be asking for 
> different sizes ATJO (According To Jan's Opinion).  Grant is more on the 
> proportional size kick.  Wheelsize should be proportional to bike size 
> which is proportional to person-size. 
>
> So, did the Clem get spec'd kind of one-size-fits-all with respect to 
> crank arm length?  Or did they get set up proportionally?  I'm eager to 
> know.  It might be a preview for what I receive on my Joe Appaloosa.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: What length Silver Cranks came on your Clem?

2015-11-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
173. That's awesome. 

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[RBW] Re: Build help needed

2015-11-11 Thread Marc40a
Here's a comparable reference chart for Shimano branded BB's:

http://web.archive.org/web/20101022002409/http://blog.harriscyclery.com/relative-chainline-bottom-brackets/

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-11 Thread Ryan Thompson
Hey Tony we should meet at the Navy Yard sometime when I ride my Cheviot in. 
I'd love to see the Clementine orange next to my Chev's orange. 

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

2015-11-11 Thread Michael Flournoy

A few years ago NAHBS was in Richmond where I live and on a lark and 
knowing nothing about Hand Built Bikes I went. In the middle of all these 
beautifully displayed bikes was 4 or 5 red ones covered in mud. So I asked 
the guy standing there " whats up with that? ". And as if he'd never heard 
the question before, he very patiently explained that he wanted to show off 
what they were good for and that they " at least in in his opinion " looked 
best with a little mud honestly earned caked on them. He explained what 
cyclocross was and that you didn't really need a special bike to do it but 
if you could afford it, what the heck why not? A very laid back and genuine 
guy.

>
>
>
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[RBW] 2x10 atlantis crankset options?

2015-11-11 Thread mike gasparino
Hi guys,
building up a 2x10 atlantis and looking for recommendations for a double 
crankset. I know with the bowed out chain stays the clearance is an issue. 
I would love to use the following cranks (WI VBC, TA cyclotouriste, velo 
orange, etc. Oh and if anyone has used any of them, what spindle length bb 
did you use. Please help get me on the road!

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

2015-11-11 Thread Johnny Alien
I got a silly great deal on an Sugino Alpina so I went that way. I may or 
may not swap the large ring. It was too good to pass up.  Thanks for all of 
the help and great info in here. I especially like that Rivendell article!

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

2015-11-11 Thread 'John' via RBW Owners Bunch
Does the Sugino 901d come as a triple with holes on the inner crank/spider for 
a small bolt-on inner chainring?  (I'm afraid I'm a bit immured in the past and 
not up on current matters.  Currently, I have as triples on road bikes are a 
Stronglight 99 and a Campy Nuovo Record, though I will put a T-A. Cyclo 
Tourist/Pro Vis I have on a bike.)

Thank you in advance.

John Taglia

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