[RBW] FS Ritchey Logic Branded Dia Compe Brake Levers Cantilever

[Bruce Smitham]

FS Vintage Ritchey Logic Branded Dia Compe Brake Levers Cantilever. Black 
in good condition with some scratches here and there. $20 plus shipping 
(CONUS) or make me an offer. Pictures here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskC7tyER

Bruce in San Diego

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters

[Zack]

sold!

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chicka Warrior on a Horse

[Joe Bernard]

Eric "Campy Only" Norris posted this on Twitter. It's very cool. 

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[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

[Justin August]

I wonder about the insurance situation here. What if a front rack fails and 
someone breaks a collarbone?

Not due to zip ties. Due to the renter being Manny and doing some 
#ThisLooksRight loading action. 


-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chicka Warrior on a Horse

[Mattt]

Should be Riv in the title not river...spell check got me.

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[RBW] River Chicka Warrior on a Horse

[Mattt]

Not quite Rivendell content.  But is a neat story...Rivendell tie is people 
getting their Rivendell stolen and people helping to find it...chasing people 
down sometimes,  Not a Rivendell in this story, but enjoy.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/10/bike-theft-oregon-walmart-thief-lassoed-cattle-rancher

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters

[ian m]

Are the bar end shifters the ones I have heard attach happily to the sun race 
shifter bases? If that is the case I'd love to have these!

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[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

[Joe Bernard]

What's funny is Zap Espinoza did exactly that when he reviewed the XO-1 for 
Mountain Bike Action in 1992. I don't remember why..swapping bars for a test 
was certainly not common. 

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[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

To me, it's kinda like if a reviewer reviewed the XO-1, but swapped out the 
mustache bars for drops. Kinda like that.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 9:31:45 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Yeah, I read that post. I was a little disappointed she wasn't "ready yet" 
> for the Boscos. Does that mean, what--you have to be 90 years old? As one 
> of the first bikes that Riv was selling (at least for a time) as only a 
> complete, I think it makes more sense for an experienced reviewer like LB 
> to review the bike as envisioned. I think the Boscos are an integral part 
> of the Clem/Clementine ride. Not saying that some people who give them a 
> fair shot won't want to go to something else, or that that would be heresy. 
> No, of course not. Just that hey--give Bosco a chance, especially if you 
> are reviewing a Clementine.
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:11:09 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>>
>> That's great.  I remember Annie's blog post last year, "Rivendell's 
>> Clementine - Now We're Talking!."  I pre-ordered this year as well.  I was 
>> thinking she hadn't had a chance to try one yet, I would offer to let her 
>> try mine (I'm not far from VT).  Looks like we'll be getting our new bikes 
>> around the same time.
>>
>> First post on the Clementine by Lovely Bicycle:  
>> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/06/brifter-bliss-for-swept-back-handlebars.html#more
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yeah, I read that post. I was a little disappointed she wasn't "ready yet" 
for the Boscos. Does that mean, what--you have to be 90 years old? As one 
of the first bikes that Riv was selling (at least for a time) as only a 
complete, I think it makes more sense for an experienced reviewer like LB 
to review the bike as envisioned. I think the Boscos are an integral part 
of the Clem/Clementine ride. Not saying that some people who give them a 
fair shot won't want to go to something else, or that that would be heresy. 
No, of course not. Just that hey--give Bosco a chance, especially if you 
are reviewing a Clementine.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:11:09 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>
> That's great.  I remember Annie's blog post last year, "Rivendell's 
> Clementine - Now We're Talking!."  I pre-ordered this year as well.  I was 
> thinking she hadn't had a chance to try one yet, I would offer to let her 
> try mine (I'm not far from VT).  Looks like we'll be getting our new bikes 
> around the same time.
>
> First post on the Clementine by Lovely Bicycle:  
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/06/brifter-bliss-for-swept-back-handlebars.html#more
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: drop bar brake levers, down tube or bar end shifters

[Belopsky]

Hi all - I think I am all set w brakes..decided to go with the gum TRP
I do however want some shifters...let me know what you may have..

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[RBW] WTB Jitensha Ebisu All-Purpose

[exliontamer]

I saw that. It's a little pricey considering that it's used(plus the color is a 
little tough for me). I could order a new one to my specs + parts for close to 
that price as well. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

[Eric Chatham]

Bill can double hate on the matching Brooks Swift in BRG!

http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc245-ericchatham0207.html

Just kidding!

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[RBW] Re: A practical bike, believe it or not!

[Steven Butcher]

I've seen that bike in the flesh, er uh steel, and it's the BOMB-adil!  IMO 
would be the ideal touring/commuting bike.

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:19:07 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
>
> *From:* Thomas Allingham 
> *Date:* June 9, 2016 at 3:11:36 PM EDT
> *To:* "Allingham II Thomas J. (Retired Partner)"  >
> *Subject:* *A practical bike, believe it or not!*
> *Reply-To:* Thomas Allingham 
>
> Lest you all think that I'm capable of nothing but precious flowers like 
> yesterday's Wilbury and the recent Clementines, here are a couple of pics 
> of my brutish black Bombadil with Rolloff hub, the bike of the apocalypse:
>
> Glam shots:
>
> Rivendell Bombadil 
> 
>
> Rivendell Bombadil 
>
> 
> Bombadil with Rohloff 
> 
>
> Bombadil with Rohloff 
>
> 
> And out and about for lunch today:
>
> Bomba, out and about 
> 
>
> Bomba, out and about 
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

[Patrick Moore]

I like my Dahon for the grocery store for this reason, too -- it takes up
less space, or at least seems to (not that I really mind taking the 29er
Matthews to the store, either).



On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Bill nailed it, the mini velo design lets the bike fit in a smaller space
> in my apartment, plus my short self finds them easier to lug up and down
> stairs without banging the wheels on the steps.
>
> Also, I've been riding folders for so long that small wheels don't look
> "odd" to me..it just looks like a bike. I'm a big fan of Japanese minis,
> and bought this with that in mind.
>
> Yes, it would be getting a long Technomic if I use Albas.
>
> Btw, I've asked Grant to make a Riv Mini Velo, which of course I know is
> financially impossible for them. He agreed about the "impossible" part ;-)
>
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[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

[Joe Bernard]

Here's the derailer.

https://www.amazon.com/Tourney-Shimano-Rear-Derailleur-RD-TX55/dp/B00U1U9YQU

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[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

[Joe Bernard]

Mark: Yes, that pulley thingy on the derailer is kinda like a Jtek. They were 
also made by Avid for a while as a cable angle smoother outer (I'm not 
convinced it makes any difference), and Shimano put one on the first XTR Rapid 
Rise mech. 

I'll probably replace the giant black boat anchor with something 
lighter/prettier eventually, but in the meantime I'll put up with its annoying 
ability to be cheap and heavy and shift just as well as any other derailer I've 
ever used. 

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[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

[Joe Bernard]

Also, I'm fairly certain I have the first one in the US, and considering the 
complete lack of interest in non-folding minis here, I expect it to remain 
quite rare. So that's fun. 

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[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It really is a tasteful-looking ride. Flickr won't let me magnify--is that 
some kind of jtek mechanism on the rear derailleur?

I hear you on the stair lugging. That is about the one area where little 
old Miss Clementine can be a mama bear. Going down is the worst, though 
after a thread on the subject of carrying mixtes down the stairs (was it 
here or BoB?) I now have a slightly better technique. Further Riv content: 
the bike pictured above came with only one folding pedal, so it is now 
sporting the stock pedals off my Clementine.


On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 8:20:01 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Bill nailed it, the mini velo design lets the bike fit in a smaller space 
> in my apartment, plus my short self finds them easier to lug up and down 
> stairs without banging the wheels on the steps. 
>
> Also, I've been riding folders for so long that small wheels don't look 
> "odd" to me..it just looks like a bike. I'm a big fan of Japanese minis, 
> and bought this with that in mind.
>
> Yes, it would be getting a long Technomic if I use Albas.
>
> Btw, I've asked Grant to make a Riv Mini Velo, which of course I know is 
> financially impossible for them. He agreed about the "impossible" part ;-)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

[Joe Bernard]

Bill nailed it, the mini velo design lets the bike fit in a smaller space in my 
apartment, plus my short self finds them easier to lug up and down stairs 
without banging the wheels on the steps. 

Also, I've been riding folders for so long that small wheels don't look "odd" 
to me..it just looks like a bike. I'm a big fan of Japanese minis, and bought 
this with that in mind.

Yes, it would be getting a long Technomic if I use Albas.

Btw, I've asked Grant to make a Riv Mini Velo, which of course I know is 
financially impossible for them. He agreed about the "impossible" part ;-)

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[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

[Bill Lindsay]

I've offered to drop off in an 8 mile radius to cover Berkeley.  We'll see 
what happens.  

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 5:09:35 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> You're a braver man than me, Bill. I can't imagine letting someone take 
> off on my brand new Appaloosa! How does pick-up/drop-off work with 
> Spinlister?

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[RBW] I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

[Joe Bernard]

You're a braver man than me, Bill. I can't imagine letting someone take off on 
my brand new Appaloosa! How does pick-up/drop-off work with Spinlister?

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[RBW] FS: Carbonomas fork, Flite saddle, Campy shifters

[Doug Way]

Hi Rivsters-

Delurking briefly to see if I can sell some parts that I no longer 
need.I posted some of this stuff last fall, prices are now lower.Feel 
free to make me an offer.Pictures of everything on my Flicker page:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/25652527@N05/albums/72157659995287656

1. Early Riv Carbonomas straight steel fork with semi-sloping fork 
crown, 1 1/8" threadless. No lawyer lips. Steerer tube is long, ~10.5 
inches. I had this on a Ti bike for ~800 miles and it worked great. $75 
shipped.


2.Selle Italia Max Flite Trans Am saddle.Cover in excellent shape, very 
little use.$35 shipped.Very comfy for a plastic saddle.Saddle dimensions 
are 15 cm wide at the back and 28 cm long.



3. Ritchey Pro threadless headset, from Carbonomas fork. Black withred 
trim. $20 shipped.


4. Campy Xenon 9 speed brake/shift levers. Excellent condition.  Polymer 
composite blades, work quite well. ~800 miles. Rear shifteronly will 
shift one gear at a time. $45 shipped.


5. New Campy 50T chainring for Record/Chorus cranks ONLY. Brand new!My 
mistake, I needed one for a Veloce triple crankset. $45 shipped.


6. New KCNC SC-9 alloy seat post clamp, black, Ti bolt, 31.8 mm, $20shipped.

Payment by Paypal please to jd-...@comcast.net. I'll ship by 
USPSPriority Mail if possible. Fork may be shipped by UPS.  My ebay 
username is sepr8tr if you'd like to


check my feedback.


Thanks,

Doug Way

Boulder, CO

Atlantis and Roadeo


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[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

[Jim M.]

I'd give you a good review but apparently I'd have to actually rent the 
bike. 

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 4:56:17 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Haha Mark.  Good call.
>
> My Ibis Touche Road Tandem is the next bike I'm going to list.  
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 4:47:54 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Word to the wise, Bill. For rentals you may want to seriously consider 
>> two, or even three, additional zip ties. Or have the basket crocheted on 
>> and charge an extra $10 an hour premium for crafty good taste.
>>
>> Interested to hear how this pans out. It could help me justify a dozen or 
>> so bicycles in a 3rd floor walk-up (including a tandem and a Big Dummy, 
>> though the BD may be sold this weekend).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:16:37 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been meaning to try out Spinlister for a while.  I have a huge 
>>> stable, and they are all pretty dialed.  I decided to give it a shot and 
>>> see to what extent my stable can in part pay for itself.  If it turns out 
>>> to be a huge pain, I'll bail on it, but for my rugged countrybikes, that 
>>> are already trashed out with 8 (8!) zipties, a little extra rental use 
>>> won't kill them.  Here's the listing:
>>>
>>> http://www.spinlister.com/rides/22054-bike-touring-el-cerrito-ca
>>>
>>> Wish me luck!  If you want to ride my Joe Appaloosa, go ahead and rent 
>>> it!  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Definitely cool. Dig that matte black paint. Seems like Albas are going to 
be a tight fit without a significantly longer stem?

I have something sort of similar. Riv content: If they had only taken the 
bottom down tube, flipped it, and put it on top, I'd have a 20" folding 
Clem(entine) with full suspension!...alas. And yes, I fold mine. It allows 
me to fit the other eleven bicycles into my third-floor walk-up.









On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:32:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Well, not really, but here's my new Bobbin Metric mini velo..isn't it 
> cool? 7 speeds, 20-inch (451) wheels, TIGed in Taiwan, about $700 from 
> Wiggle in England. Riv content - other than looking like a mini Cheviot - 
> will be the Brooks Select I bought from them, plus I imagine it'll end up 
> wearing the Albas I have sitting on a shelf. Check it out, people who check 
> out things!
>
> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/18972972@N08/27489762302/
> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/18972972@N08/27588674345/
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[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

[Bill Lindsay]

Haha Mark.  Good call.

My Ibis Touche Road Tandem is the next bike I'm going to list.  

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 4:47:54 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Word to the wise, Bill. For rentals you may want to seriously consider 
> two, or even three, additional zip ties. Or have the basket crocheted on 
> and charge an extra $10 an hour premium for crafty good taste.
>
> Interested to hear how this pans out. It could help me justify a dozen or 
> so bicycles in a 3rd floor walk-up (including a tandem and a Big Dummy, 
> though the BD may be sold this weekend).
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:16:37 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I've been meaning to try out Spinlister for a while.  I have a huge 
>> stable, and they are all pretty dialed.  I decided to give it a shot and 
>> see to what extent my stable can in part pay for itself.  If it turns out 
>> to be a huge pain, I'll bail on it, but for my rugged countrybikes, that 
>> are already trashed out with 8 (8!) zipties, a little extra rental use 
>> won't kill them.  Here's the listing:
>>
>> http://www.spinlister.com/rides/22054-bike-touring-el-cerrito-ca
>>
>> Wish me luck!  If you want to ride my Joe Appaloosa, go ahead and rent 
>> it!  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: drop bar brake levers, down tube or bar end shifters

[dougP]

I took a look in my collection & have the following:  pair of Shimano 600 
in gray; pair of Shimano Tiagra; pair of Tektro RL 520, the long pull ones 
for V-brakes, with the button release.  Contact me directly if any of these 
are of interest.

dougP

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 6:25:01 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
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> More interested in the drop bar levers as I think I may have the bar 
> end/down tube figured out right now..
>
>
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[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Word to the wise, Bill. For rentals you may want to seriously consider two, 
or even three, additional zip ties. Or have the basket crocheted on and 
charge an extra $10 an hour premium for crafty good taste.

Interested to hear how this pans out. It could help me justify a dozen or 
so bicycles in a 3rd floor walk-up (including a tandem and a Big Dummy, 
though the BD may be sold this weekend).





On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:16:37 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I've been meaning to try out Spinlister for a while.  I have a huge 
> stable, and they are all pretty dialed.  I decided to give it a shot and 
> see to what extent my stable can in part pay for itself.  If it turns out 
> to be a huge pain, I'll bail on it, but for my rugged countrybikes, that 
> are already trashed out with 8 (8!) zipties, a little extra rental use 
> won't kill them.  Here's the listing:
>
> http://www.spinlister.com/rides/22054-bike-touring-el-cerrito-ca
>
> Wish me luck!  If you want to ride my Joe Appaloosa, go ahead and rent it! 
>  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Cranks, Stem, Canti Brakes, 29" Tires, Dynamo Stuff.

[Daniel Jackson]

I'll take the technomic if still available. On mobile so no PM

Thanks,
D.  

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters

[Zack]

bar ends!

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:24:13 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
>
> Used, great condition. No housing or cables included.
>
> $50 shipped seems fair.
>

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Re: [RBW] Mini Cheviot

[Bill Lindsay]

Patrick queried about Joe's non folding small wheel bike:

"If it's not a folder, why 20" wheels?"

That's what some people would call a mini-velo.  It's a pretty popular 
genre in Japan, I'm told.  It's supposed to ride well, like a 
normal bike, but it takes up a lot less space than a 
big-wheeled bike, like in your apartment.  They are supposedly very traffic 
maneuverable with the little wheels.  

Flipping the script a little, let me ask you this:  For every 100 rides 
(outings?, excursions?) on your Hon Solo, how many times on average do you 
fold it up?  

2? 10? 50? 100? 200?
 

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[RBW] Re: Plastic fenders - never again

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well, aesthetically, I think that the cream SKS longboards look so 
wonderful on a Riv. I agree with Michael that the integrated cap for the stays 
can be a PITA, but in my experience, it's not that big of a deal. That being 
said, I've had a couple of them break off at the tip anyway. I'm a bit of a 
slob so it's not that big of a deal to me. I have Honjos on my MAP custom, and 
they really look nice, but I probably wouldn't choose them over cream 
Longboards. Right now, on my Hilsen, I have the SKS cream longboards, and the 
fender lines aren't anywhere near perfect (since I removed and reinstalled them 
for PBP)but I love the way they look. But right now I'm looking at the MAP with 
the Honjos next to the Hilsen, and it looks pretty sharp too. Anyway, FWIW, I 
like them both, but if it takes a little longer to install metal fenders, I'm 
probably going with plastic since I'm sooo lazy and would rather spend my 
time riding. 

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[RBW] I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

[Bill Lindsay]

I've been meaning to try out Spinlister for a while.  I have a huge stable, 
and they are all pretty dialed.  I decided to give it a shot and see to 
what extent my stable can in part pay for itself.  If it turns out to be a 
huge pain, I'll bail on it, but for my rugged countrybikes, that are 
already trashed out with 8 (8!) zipties, a little extra rental use won't 
kill them.  Here's the listing:

http://www.spinlister.com/rides/22054-bike-touring-el-cerrito-ca

Wish me luck!  If you want to ride my Joe Appaloosa, go ahead and rent it!  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


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Re: [RBW] Mini Cheviot

[Patrick Moore]

Cute. Is that a double top tube or double down tube?

If it's not a folder, why 20" wheels?

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Well, not really, but here's my new Bobbin Metric mini velo..isn't it
> cool? 7 speeds, 20-inch (451) wheels, TIGed in Taiwan, about $700 from
> Wiggle in England. Riv content - other than looking like a mini Cheviot -
> will be the Brooks Select I bought from them, plus I imagine it'll end up
> wearing the Albas I have sitting on a shelf. Check it out, people who check
> out things!
>
> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/18972972@N08/27489762302/
> https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/18972972@N08/27588674345/
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[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

[LLM]

Thanks!  I'm taking a chance on the dark mustard.  I'll probably add racks, 
fenders, and a Brooks B67S in antique brown or black.  I have some BioKork 
Ergon grips on another bike that I'll try on the Clem.I like the idea 
of dark plum accents, perhaps in the form of tape on the forward sections 
of the handlebars.  We'll see!  I'm holding myself back from ordering 
accessories until after the bike arrives.  I, too, still think of the bike 
as the Clementine.

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[RBW] Re: Plastic fenders - never again

[Will]

I don't understand why you had Hunq-fender problems. I have an Atlantis. It 
runs 559sx46s. P65s went on without a hitch. Plenty of room... Hunqs should 
be same-same...

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:16:54 AM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>
> I spent hours with a hair dryer trying to straighten a front SKS fender 
> for my Hunqapillar, then gave up and decided my Hunqapillar will remain 
> fenderless and knobby.
>
> When it cam time for my AHH, I surrendered to a higher 
> power/talent/wisdom/workshop and paid Rivendell to do it. Best money I ever 
> spent.
>
> Rivendell should teach classes on how to install these things the right 
> way.
>
> They add some hardware that doesn't come in the box, like a cool bolt & 
> fancy-spacer-thingy to connect it to my Mark's rack.
>
> Very cool.
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters

[Bill Lindsay]

Zack

Your buyer will appreciate learning if they are downtube Silver shifters or 
bar-end Silver shifters.

best

Bill

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> Used, great condition. No housing or cables included.
>
> $50 shipped seems fair.
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[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

[LeahFoy]

You're getting one, too? Lovely! Which color did you choose? How are you 
setting yours up? Congratulations!

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[RBW] Mini Cheviot

[Joe Bernard]

Well, not really, but here's my new Bobbin Metric mini velo..isn't it cool? 7 
speeds, 20-inch (451) wheels, TIGed in Taiwan, about $700 from Wiggle in 
England. Riv content - other than looking like a mini Cheviot - will be the 
Brooks Select I bought from them, plus I imagine it'll end up wearing the Albas 
I have sitting on a shelf. Check it out, people who check out things!

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/18972972@N08/27489762302/
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/18972972@N08/27588674345/

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[RBW] FS: Silver Shifters

[Zack]

Used, great condition. No housing or cables included.

$50 shipped seems fair.

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[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

[LLM]

That's great.  I remember Annie's blog post last year, "Rivendell's 
Clementine - Now We're Talking!."  I pre-ordered this year as well.  I was 
thinking she hadn't had a chance to try one yet, I would offer to let her 
try mine (I'm not far from VT).  Looks like we'll be getting our new bikes 
around the same time.

First post on the Clementine by Lovely Bicycle: 
 
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/06/brifter-bliss-for-swept-back-handlebars.html#more

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

[Avery E Wilson]

Thanks! I tried to set it up just like I would a 26"-wheeled Atlantis.

Of course it's zip-tied! Is there really any other way to attach a Wald
basket to a rack? ;)
On Jun 10, 2016 3:22 PM, "RichS"  wrote:

> Avery, sensational bike! Is the basket zip tied to the rack???
>
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:23:46 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote:
>>
>> To add to the fray -  my '92 MB-5 in BRG, or very close to it!
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BGcthzhTfwW/
>>
>> Sporting Riv standard wheelset, original Deore LX drivetrain, Rat Trap
>> Pass tires, etc. It's fun and I love riding it. It's icing on the cake that
>> it's my favorite bike color.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

[Ryan Fleming]

I think the grey looks good with the mustard colour

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 2:28:03 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 12:59:00 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Speaking of which, I do have the matching XTR greyish rear derailer on my 
>> Atlantis.  Perhaps I should switch that over...
>>
>
> I had some time last night for mechanical meditation, so I went ahead and 
> did a small parts swap.  
>
> From the Joe Appaloosa I removed:
>
> Silver Crankset and associated BB
> CX70 front der
> XT Rapid Rise Rear der
> 9 speed cassette
> 9 speed chain
>
> From my FatLantis I removed:
>
> Grey XTR Rear Der (non Rapid Rise)
> 8 speed cassette
> 8 speed indexed right hand bar end shifter
> 8 speed chain
>
> Onto the Joe Appaloosa I installed
>
> Grey Ritchey Logic 94/58 crankset, 172.5mm, 42/32/22
> 8 speed cassette
> Grey XTR rear der
> Indexed barcon shifter on the LEFT side
> spliced two 8sp chains to make one
>
> So now my Joe Appaloosa has even more XTR grey stuff on it, and now has 
> the 172.5 crank arms that I so zealously prefer.  The upside down mounting 
> of the sun-race thumbie bases forced me to run the indexed rear shifter on 
> the left, which keeps it weird.  Fortunately I like weird.  Pics prove it 
> happened:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

[Bill Lindsay]

Yes. Perfect fit. I have a Flickr series using the us race base with several 
different shifters. Ironically one of the only ones that didn't work was a 
sunrace DT shifter. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

[Bob B]

Bill--the shimano shifter works witht the sunrace thumbie mount? I own both but 
never thought they'd work together!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

[Joe Bernard]

Interesting. I'd been thinking about swapping my indexed thumbie to the left 
side to get the shifters in that position. I guess I'll give it a whirl. Man, 
that bike looks amazing..hopefully I'll see it at the book talk thing. 

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[RBW] Re: Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[Lungimsam]

It is really flat there so I just left it in the big ring and when I needed 
to change gears I just changed the cassette cogs. I think I only needed 3 
or 4 gears, tops, while I was there. Really flat.
Up here in central Maryland I definitely use all three rings. Mostly the 
middle 36T ring. Rolling terrain.

PS- Dad just turned 75 last week!

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[RBW] Re: Plastic fenders - never again

[George Schick]

"... I spent hours with a hair dryer trying to straighten a front SKS 
fender for my Hunqapillar, then gave up and decided my Hunqapillar will 
remain fenderless and knobby..."

A hair dryer may not get hot enough - use a heat gun.  And be careful!  A 
heat gun can easily get too hot, melting the plastic and ruining the fender 
for good.  I wanted to put SKS P45's on my Ram, which has Shimano 600 SP 
brakes.  Apparently, these brakes were never intended to be used in 
conjunction with fenders (not P45's, anyway) and, unlike the wider mouth 
Tekro and various CP brakes, the arms would squeeze against the plastic 
fender.  I didn't like this so I heated the fenders just enough where the 
brake arm interfered and then bent an indent into with a tool (some kind of 
pliers - can't remember).  Worked just fine.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:16:54 AM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>
> I spent hours with a hair dryer trying to straighten a front SKS fender 
> for my Hunqapillar, then gave up and decided my Hunqapillar will remain 
> fenderless and knobby.
>
> When it cam time for my AHH, I surrendered to a higher 
> power/talent/wisdom/workshop and paid Rivendell to do it. Best money I ever 
> spent.
>
> Rivendell should teach classes on how to install these things the right 
> way.
>
> They add some hardware that doesn't come in the box, like a cool bolt & 
> fancy-spacer-thingy to connect it to my Mark's rack.
>
> Very cool.
>
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: drop bar brake levers, down tube or bar end shifters

[Steve Palincsar]

On 06/10/2016 07:53 AM, Belopsky wrote:

Honestly I don't know the difference - suntour barcons are friction only?


Yes.  SunTour had an abortive indexing system, but it was too little too 
late and there probably aren't many if any still out there functioning; 
and you wouldn't be well advised to spend any time looking for one.


If you want friction, the SunTour Sprint lever is one of the nicest 
friction shifters ever made.  Its reincarnation goes by the brand name 
Silver, and Riv sell them.  If you want indexed bar end shifters, you 
now have some choices: Microshift, Shimano.




On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:37:02 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:

Are you looking for indexed bar ends or Suntour Bar-Cons?

dougP

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 6:25:01 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:

More interested in the drop bar levers as I think I may have
the bar end/down tube figured out right now..



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Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

[Bill Lindsay]

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 12:59:00 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Speaking of which, I do have the matching XTR greyish rear derailer on my 
> Atlantis.  Perhaps I should switch that over...
>

I had some time last night for mechanical meditation, so I went ahead and 
did a small parts swap.  

>From the Joe Appaloosa I removed:

Silver Crankset and associated BB
CX70 front der
XT Rapid Rise Rear der
9 speed cassette
9 speed chain

>From my FatLantis I removed:

Grey XTR Rear Der (non Rapid Rise)
8 speed cassette
8 speed indexed right hand bar end shifter
8 speed chain

Onto the Joe Appaloosa I installed

Grey Ritchey Logic 94/58 crankset, 172.5mm, 42/32/22
8 speed cassette
Grey XTR rear der
Indexed barcon shifter on the LEFT side
spliced two 8sp chains to make one

So now my Joe Appaloosa has even more XTR grey stuff on it, and now has the 
172.5 crank arms that I so zealously prefer.  The upside down mounting of 
the sun-race thumbie bases forced me to run the indexed rear shifter on the 
left, which keeps it weird.  Fortunately I like weird.  Pics prove it 
happened:










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[RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

[RichS]

Avery, sensational bike! Is the basket zip tied to the rack???

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:23:46 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote:
>
> To add to the fray -  my '92 MB-5 in BRG, or very close to it! 
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BGcthzhTfwW/
>
> Sporting Riv standard wheelset, original Deore LX drivetrain, Rat Trap 
> Pass tires, etc. It's fun and I love riding it. It's icing on the cake that 
> it's my favorite bike color. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[RichS]

Nice story with a happy ending ending! Kudos to you for stepping up to help 
your father; congratulations to your dad on his recovery!

Lot of your riding in the big ring?

Best wishes to you both.
Richard

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 12:20:06 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> In March I went to Tampa to help take care of my Dad during his 6 week 
> stem cell transplant and recovery process. After a total 8 months of 
> chemo...cancer-free!!! Praise the Lord!!! He got through the treatments as 
> easily as a person can - with minimal bad effects. It definitely wasn't 
> easy, but on the easiest side of things as treatment goes. So I am also 
> thankful for that.
>
> I had driven down (16 hours in one shot - auto-nneuring!) and brought my 
> Blue Sam. Having been down there before caregiving, I knew I would be able 
> to take a quick spin every day as time allowed.
>
> First few weeks I rode through the USF Campus to Moffitt Cancer Center 
> Hospital and back to our nearby rented apartment as a way to ride daily. 
> Commuting to the hospital, basically.
> Dad would kvell to the nurses that I rode every day. :)
> When he was released to apartment nearby the hospital I'd take a daily 
> quick jaunt in adjacent neighborhood.
> When he was released home I took daily quick spins through the 
> neighborhood.
>
> Here are some pics of the rides and pretty flora and fauna and 
> neighborhoods. A couple videos, too. Enjoy.
>
> I always heard that Cancer and Cancer treatment is a horrifying thing, but 
> never knew about the logistical nightmare treatment entails for the patient 
> and the agony of living in fear and uncertainty.
> I am very proud of my Dad. Such a frightening thing to face but he got 
> though it and is now getting his life back, even driving and going out 
> again. As his immune system matures he will be able to do more and more 
> normal activities.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/albums/72157669464666796
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Philip Kim]

nice! i was so tempted by albatross. I had them on my Sam, but kept 
slipping forward to the bends with a 110mm stem. On the Cheviot it was much 
better.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 2:19:11 PM UTC-4, Esteban wrote:
>
> Here's my slow build on my 54cm Hunqua:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/26976394523/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Gonna be:
> Nitto shiny bits (Albatross, Frog, 120mm delux stem)
> 2x10 XT drivetrain
> Berthoud saddle
> Nanoraptors (Fatlantis ally)
> Ribbit brakes currently - soon to be black Paul Neo Retro cantis
> Full Nitto rack accompaniment: front and back Campee lowriders, Campee 
> front "mini")
> Hobo-style mismatched, kitchen-sink bags and cargo net action
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:31:23 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> My Hunq has arrived and the bike shop will start my build shortly. So far 
>> it my build will be:
>>
>> Brooks Swift, Nitto Seatpost
>> Paul cantis (retro front, touring rear)
>> Haulin Colin Front Rack
>> Marks rack for rear
>> Atlass 26" wheelset, dyno front
>> Compass Rat Traps tubeless
>> 10 speed, SLX/XT mix, 11-34 cassette
>> White Industries VBC crank
>>
>> I'm having trouble deciding on the cockpit.
>>
>> I've very torn between having Salsa Cowbells or Jones Loop bar on there. 
>> Would a drop bars even make sense on a Hunq? If Jones Loop bar, I would get 
>> Microshift MTB thumbies, and Paul Levers. But if it's Salsa, I might try to 
>> go the Gevenalle/IRD style shifting.
>>
>> I was wondering if Hunq owners can share their favorite Hunq build/pics 
>> for inspiration. I've been looking at Flickr, but I know not everyone 
>> uploads pictures there.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Esteban]

Here's my slow build on my 54cm Hunqua:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/26976394523/in/dateposted-public/

Gonna be:
Nitto shiny bits (Albatross, Frog, 120mm delux stem)
2x10 XT drivetrain
Berthoud saddle
Nanoraptors (Fatlantis ally)
Ribbit brakes currently - soon to be black Paul Neo Retro cantis
Full Nitto rack accompaniment: front and back Campee lowriders, Campee 
front "mini")
Hobo-style mismatched, kitchen-sink bags and cargo net action

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:31:23 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> My Hunq has arrived and the bike shop will start my build shortly. So far 
> it my build will be:
>
> Brooks Swift, Nitto Seatpost
> Paul cantis (retro front, touring rear)
> Haulin Colin Front Rack
> Marks rack for rear
> Atlass 26" wheelset, dyno front
> Compass Rat Traps tubeless
> 10 speed, SLX/XT mix, 11-34 cassette
> White Industries VBC crank
>
> I'm having trouble deciding on the cockpit.
>
> I've very torn between having Salsa Cowbells or Jones Loop bar on there. 
> Would a drop bars even make sense on a Hunq? If Jones Loop bar, I would get 
> Microshift MTB thumbies, and Paul Levers. But if it's Salsa, I might try to 
> go the Gevenalle/IRD style shifting.
>
> I was wondering if Hunq owners can share their favorite Hunq build/pics 
> for inspiration. I've been looking at Flickr, but I know not everyone 
> uploads pictures there.
>

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[RBW] Rivendell Choco-Moose Bars FS

[Kainalu]

P.M. sent

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Kevin,
The fenders are VO Stainless Steel 60mm Fenders, 26" ATB. Good clearance 
with Compass RTP and Big Bens. (I haven't tried knobbies. The terrain that 
I ride doesn't require them.)

I have moustache bars on now. For me, it's a good compromise bar for 
commuting and riding with kids. I do miss the Noodles on the Hunq-- maybe 
I'll swap to them soon. 

Also-- the Noodles are great with a front basket. With my short headtube, 
the Moustache bar doesn't really work with front basket. 

shoji


On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 12:31:43 PM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> Hi Shoji.
> What kind of fenders do you have on your Hunq?  They look gorgeous.
> Kevin
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:48:42 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Yes, my Hunqapillar is 48cm (with 559BSD/26" wheels).
>> shoji
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:45:07 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this a 48cm? Thanks for the pics. I see you've done a lot of 
>>> handlebar combos, definitely cool to see and ponder my own build.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:40:01 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Philip,
 If the top-tube length is fine, you can certainly use drops. I had 
 Noodles on my Hunqapillar-- love that set up (Wald basket in the space 
 between on top of Nitto front rack, secured with zipties, natch).

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13434974393/in/album-72157634163491121/

 Here's one from The Radavist (might have to click thru the pics to see 
 the full view):
 http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#1

 Enjoy the ride!
 shoji



 On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:14:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Thanks for the pics, I've definitely admired that Hunq.
>
> Oh yeah, the Gravel and Grind dudes are the guys setting up my Hunq. I 
> gave them my Jones bar set up, but after seeing James' set up I've been 
> thinking drops might be doable. But he has a nitto dirt drop stem and 
> dirt 
> drop bars up high. I was thinking more of a roadie drop bar configuration 
> with the Salsa Cowbells. I've tried dirt drops and I can't get along with 
> them for some reason.
>
> I just wasn't sure if the geo of the Hunq would mesh with drop bars. I 
> might just go with the Jones, but might change it later in the summer. 
> But 
> pics are always still welcome.
>
> I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:58:25 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:
>>
>> Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
>> equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Kevin Lindsey]

I'm currently running drop bars on my Hunq and find they work very well.  I 
originally set the bike up with Mustache bars and a Dirt Drop stem; they 
worked wonderfully and were extremely comfortable, but they were ugly and 
slow in a high wind (due to the very upright riding posture).  Chiefly for 
aesthetic reasons, I therefore decided to go for drop bars (Nitto Noodles); 
I think a Hunq is much prettier in that configuration, it's easier to move 
in and out of crowded bike racks, and it seems to run a bit faster 
(although I'm willing to concede that any perceived increase in speed might 
be my imagination; even if not, the idea of using the words "Hunq" and 
"faster" in the same sentence seems somehow ungrammatical).  It feels as 
comfortable as it did with the Mustache bars and, on the whole, I'll 
probably stick to the drops.
Kevin

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> My Hunq has arrived and the bike shop will start my build shortly. So far 
> it my build will be:
>
> Brooks Swift, Nitto Seatpost
> Paul cantis (retro front, touring rear)
> Haulin Colin Front Rack
> Marks rack for rear
> Atlass 26" wheelset, dyno front
> Compass Rat Traps tubeless
> 10 speed, SLX/XT mix, 11-34 cassette
> White Industries VBC crank
>
> I'm having trouble deciding on the cockpit.
>
> I've very torn between having Salsa Cowbells or Jones Loop bar on there. 
> Would a drop bars even make sense on a Hunq? If Jones Loop bar, I would get 
> Microshift MTB thumbies, and Paul Levers. But if it's Salsa, I might try to 
> go the Gevenalle/IRD style shifting.
>
> I was wondering if Hunq owners can share their favorite Hunq build/pics 
> for inspiration. I've been looking at Flickr, but I know not everyone 
> uploads pictures there.
>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Kevin Lindsey]

Hi Shoji.
What kind of fenders do you have on your Hunq?  They look gorgeous.
Kevin

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:48:42 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Yes, my Hunqapillar is 48cm (with 559BSD/26" wheels).
> shoji
>
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:45:07 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Is this a 48cm? Thanks for the pics. I see you've done a lot of handlebar 
>> combos, definitely cool to see and ponder my own build.
>>
>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:40:01 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Philip,
>>> If the top-tube length is fine, you can certainly use drops. I had 
>>> Noodles on my Hunqapillar-- love that set up (Wald basket in the space 
>>> between on top of Nitto front rack, secured with zipties, natch).
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13434974393/in/album-72157634163491121/
>>>
>>> Here's one from The Radavist (might have to click thru the pics to see 
>>> the full view):
>>> http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#1
>>>
>>> Enjoy the ride!
>>> shoji
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:14:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:

 Thanks for the pics, I've definitely admired that Hunq.

 Oh yeah, the Gravel and Grind dudes are the guys setting up my Hunq. I 
 gave them my Jones bar set up, but after seeing James' set up I've been 
 thinking drops might be doable. But he has a nitto dirt drop stem and dirt 
 drop bars up high. I was thinking more of a roadie drop bar configuration 
 with the Salsa Cowbells. I've tried dirt drops and I can't get along with 
 them for some reason.

 I just wasn't sure if the geo of the Hunq would mesh with drop bars. I 
 might just go with the Jones, but might change it later in the summer. But 
 pics are always still welcome.

 I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.



 On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:58:25 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:
>
> Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
> equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Plastic fenders - never again

[John Phillips]

I spent hours with a hair dryer trying to straighten a front SKS fender for 
my Hunqapillar, then gave up and decided my Hunqapillar will remain 
fenderless and knobby.

When it cam time for my AHH, I surrendered to a higher 
power/talent/wisdom/workshop and paid Rivendell to do it. Best money I ever 
spent.

Rivendell should teach classes on how to install these things the right way.

They add some hardware that doesn't come in the box, like a cool bolt & 
fancy-spacer-thingy to connect it to my Mark's rack.

Very cool.

John

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[RBW] New Clementine for Bike Blogger

[LeahFoy]

Back in 2012, I was shopping for a new bike and discovered this company called 
"Rivendell Bicycle Works." I was *this close* to purchasing some Specialized 
carbon drop bar thing because online forums told me that I wasn't comfortable 
on my Trek flat-bar road bike because what I really needed was drop bars and 
carbon. And while that may be true for some, I kept thinking, "I miss my old 
Walmart Schwinn. Why do those handlebars seem comfortable? Serious bicycle 
folks say otherwise." Someone mentioned Rivendell on a bike forum and the 
sunshine came down and choirs of angels sang. So, then I had to learn all there 
was about Rivendell and their velosophy. And one of the sites that hit on my 
Google search was Annie Bikes. She's a dedicated commuter who hasn't bought a 
new bike in 30 years or so. She had thought of Rivendell during the Betty Foy 
and Cheviot times, but just didn't place the order for various reasons. But she 
had several posts about admiring the Rivs and toying with the idea of having 
one of her own. 

I had seen her posts about looking for the perfect bike, and she was coming up 
short. Then the Clementine (I don't care for its new name, it's forever a 
Clementine to me) was released, and she seriously considered it but shied away 
because she didn't want to plunk down her money without a test ride. Well, 
guess who ordered a Rivendell Clementine yesterday?!? She had continued to hear 
such good things about the bike that she did it. She really did it, and it is 
the first new bike she's had in 30 years.

The gal from Lovely Bicycle currently has one in her possession and is doing a 
write-up, probably as we speak. This is good publicity for Grant/Rivendell! And 
if anyone deserved a Rivendell, it's Annie. So many miles!

http://anniebikes.blogspot.com/2016/06/older-bikes-vs-new-pre-ordering.html

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Re: [RBW] RE: RE: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!! Proposed Ride.

[Sean Lerner]

When are y'all thinking the ride on Saturday will roll out. I'm hoping to 
ride up from SF in the morning.

-- Sean

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:16:20 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Helps to have a link .
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote:
>
>> Okay how does this look? More Miles still steep but no 40% ascents. Real 
>> steep down hills off the peak and again down repack. 
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM, René Sterental > > wrote:
>>
>>> 40% maximum grade? You've got to be kidding me!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016, Hugh Smitham >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi Folks,

 I think my post to the original got buried. 

 I wanted to throw out this ride as a potential Saturday ride from the 
 Inn and back with a stop at the Marin Museum of Bicycling. At first glance 
 it looks like a formidable ride 32 miles and 6200' elevation but we have 
 all day to do this ride. I purpose we bring a lunch with us and eat out on 
 the trail. Of course not all are up for a ride like this. I encourage 
 folks 
 to chime in with a plan "B" and "C" route(s) maybe a bail out on my route 
 where we all meet at a specific time at the museum for a tour and a really 
 mellow ride staying closer to the Inn.

 Without further fanfare here's the route 
 . 

 Your thoughts?

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

[reynoldslugs]

BRG is a wonderful color for a bike, especially a British bike.  Here's the 
current iteration of my BRG Bob Jackson:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157637495551626

The first version had drop bars:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157627265755734

Another great color, ATMO, is Emerald Green:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123

This is a fun thread, thanks David.

Max Beach
Sonoma County CA

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Shoji Takahashi]

Yes, my Hunqapillar is 48cm (with 559BSD/26" wheels).
shoji


On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:45:07 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Is this a 48cm? Thanks for the pics. I see you've done a lot of handlebar 
> combos, definitely cool to see and ponder my own build.
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:40:01 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Philip,
>> If the top-tube length is fine, you can certainly use drops. I had 
>> Noodles on my Hunqapillar-- love that set up (Wald basket in the space 
>> between on top of Nitto front rack, secured with zipties, natch).
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13434974393/in/album-72157634163491121/
>>
>> Here's one from The Radavist (might have to click thru the pics to see 
>> the full view):
>> http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#1
>>
>> Enjoy the ride!
>> shoji
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:14:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pics, I've definitely admired that Hunq.
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, the Gravel and Grind dudes are the guys setting up my Hunq. I 
>>> gave them my Jones bar set up, but after seeing James' set up I've been 
>>> thinking drops might be doable. But he has a nitto dirt drop stem and dirt 
>>> drop bars up high. I was thinking more of a roadie drop bar configuration 
>>> with the Salsa Cowbells. I've tried dirt drops and I can't get along with 
>>> them for some reason.
>>>
>>> I just wasn't sure if the geo of the Hunq would mesh with drop bars. I 
>>> might just go with the Jones, but might change it later in the summer. But 
>>> pics are always still welcome.
>>>
>>> I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:58:25 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:

 Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
 equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.

 https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ




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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Philip Kim]

Is this a 48cm? Thanks for the pics. I see you've done a lot of handlebar 
combos, definitely cool to see and ponder my own build.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:40:01 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi Philip,
> If the top-tube length is fine, you can certainly use drops. I had Noodles 
> on my Hunqapillar-- love that set up (Wald basket in the space between on 
> top of Nitto front rack, secured with zipties, natch).
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13434974393/in/album-72157634163491121/
>
> Here's one from The Radavist (might have to click thru the pics to see the 
> full view):
> http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#1
>
> Enjoy the ride!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:14:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the pics, I've definitely admired that Hunq.
>>
>> Oh yeah, the Gravel and Grind dudes are the guys setting up my Hunq. I 
>> gave them my Jones bar set up, but after seeing James' set up I've been 
>> thinking drops might be doable. But he has a nitto dirt drop stem and dirt 
>> drop bars up high. I was thinking more of a roadie drop bar configuration 
>> with the Salsa Cowbells. I've tried dirt drops and I can't get along with 
>> them for some reason.
>>
>> I just wasn't sure if the geo of the Hunq would mesh with drop bars. I 
>> might just go with the Jones, but might change it later in the summer. But 
>> pics are always still welcome.
>>
>> I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:58:25 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
>>> equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Philip,
If the top-tube length is fine, you can certainly use drops. I had Noodles 
on my Hunqapillar-- love that set up (Wald basket in the space between on 
top of Nitto front rack, secured with zipties, natch).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13434974393/in/album-72157634163491121/

Here's one from The Radavist (might have to click thru the pics to see the 
full view):
http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#1

Enjoy the ride!
shoji



On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:14:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Thanks for the pics, I've definitely admired that Hunq.
>
> Oh yeah, the Gravel and Grind dudes are the guys setting up my Hunq. I 
> gave them my Jones bar set up, but after seeing James' set up I've been 
> thinking drops might be doable. But he has a nitto dirt drop stem and dirt 
> drop bars up high. I was thinking more of a roadie drop bar configuration 
> with the Salsa Cowbells. I've tried dirt drops and I can't get along with 
> them for some reason.
>
> I just wasn't sure if the geo of the Hunq would mesh with drop bars. I 
> might just go with the Jones, but might change it later in the summer. But 
> pics are always still welcome.
>
> I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:58:25 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:
>>
>> Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
>> equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Cranks, Stem, Canti Brakes, 29" Tires, Dynamo Stuff.

[David Banzer]

Time to pay off the old credit card bill for a bunch of recent bike-related 
purchases. 
Prices include shipping unless noted.
Paypal Personal payment on these items please.
Local pickup in Chicago works, I'm across from Horner Park.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

1. SP SV-8 Dynamo Hub - new, never laced, 36h - $110

2. Son Edelux I Dynamo Light - original upright version, polished silver, 
no fork mount, 54cm wire length, bare cable ends, I used it with Shimano/SP 
type connection - $80

3. B Cyo IQ Premium Dynamo Light - used, works great no issues, full wire 
length - $80

4. Sugino Cranks - I believe these are Alpinas, 110 double (no inner 74bcd 
drillings), more traditional 5-bolt design, meaning no hidden 5th bolt, 
172.5mm, no chainings - though I can add Willow rings at a reasonable price 
($10 a chainring), crank is new - $70

5. Shimano Triple Cranks - Exage, FC-M520, silver-ish painted finish, I 
have a few of these, 110/74, 170mm or 175mm, black chainring bolts, no 
chainrings but I can include Willow rings at a reasonable price ($10 a 
chainring) - $25

6. Velo Orange Grand Cru Cantilever Brakes - MK2 version, MAFAC type 
design, includes straddle cables and generic silver hangers,  comes with 
new Koolstop Salmon pads, this is a whole bike's worth - $40

7. Tektro RBP 866 - new old stock, black (anodized I think), internal 
spring design, like Paul brakes, this is a whole bike's worth - $25

8. Nitto Technomic Deluxe Quill Stem - 190mm overall height version, Pearl 
quality, 12cm, 25.4mm clamp - $50

9. Velo Orange Threadless Stem - polished silver, 9cm, 26.0mm clamp, 
earlier octagonal version - $18

10. Nitto CT80 Chromoly Threadless Stem - for 1-1/8" steerers, 
fillet-brazed chromoly, and chrome finished, beautiful stem, 11cm, 25.4mm 
clamp - $70

11. Continental Speed King Tires - 29 x 2.2 - pair - lightly used, 
lightweight, smooth rolling tire, technically a mtb tire, but works great 
for pavement - $75

12. Vee Rubber V12 Tires - 29 x 1.95, lightly used, folding bead, about 
47mm wide on Dyads - $45

Also will have a single-speed/fixed-gear wheelset available soon. 700c, 
CR18 rims, Formula/IRO low flange rear hub (36h), Suntour XC front hub 
(32h). $100 plus shipping - I'm waiting on hubs to build up a new wheelset 
first though, so probably a couple weeks before I could ship them. Local 
pickup in Chicago highly encouraged on these.

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[RBW] Re: Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[Lungimsam]

Yes, I really enjoyed the flowers and animals immensely. Lotsa types we dont 
see here in Maryland. I also loved all the different kinds of trees and 
canopies. Spanish moss. Bottle brush trees.  The neighborhoods were gorgeous, 
too. Weather was sunny and 60's-80's. Lots of small lakes and waterways in 
Sarasota.

In that part of Florida it is illegal to kill a Sand Hill Crane. But who would 
want to anyway?

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[RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

[iamkeith]

Damn, Frank.  Since I might be one of the few odd ducks on this board who 
recognizes how special it is, I should say it:  That McClung is stunning 
and you are a lucky man and I am jealous.   Are you in Colorado, or did you 
just "know?"  

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 7:04:21 PM UTC-6, frank_a wrote:
>
>  Don McClung 29er cruiser - # 51
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/11392941485/in/photostream/
>
> - Frank
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:51:28 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> All in good fun, let's show Bill our BRG bikes!
>> I'll start - BMC Monster Cross single speed 'road bike for dirt' - 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BGbx9nOMmeI/
>> David 
>> Chicago
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[John G]

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:14:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
>
>
> I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.
>

Ha! Cool that is your bike.  That stem is beautiful.

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[RBW] Re: A practical bike, believe it or not!

[Wayne Naha]

Most excellent, especially that Rohloff hub.






On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Justin August]

There are a few 31.8 clamp stems out now but mostly people just use quill -> 
thread less adapters. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Philip Kim]

Thanks for the pics, I've definitely admired that Hunq.

Oh yeah, the Gravel and Grind dudes are the guys setting up my Hunq. I gave 
them my Jones bar set up, but after seeing James' set up I've been thinking 
drops might be doable. But he has a nitto dirt drop stem and dirt drop bars 
up high. I was thinking more of a roadie drop bar configuration with the 
Salsa Cowbells. I've tried dirt drops and I can't get along with them for 
some reason.

I just wasn't sure if the geo of the Hunq would mesh with drop bars. I 
might just go with the Jones, but might change it later in the summer. But 
pics are always still welcome.

I have a custom 31.8 custom quill stem.



On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:58:25 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:
>
> Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
> equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Philip Kim]

I had a custom quill stem made by Clockwork Bikes, great stuff.

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:43:38 AM UTC-4, se...@austin.utexas.edu 
wrote:
>
> Just curious, how are you going to accommodate for the 31.8 clamp diameter 
> (of both the cowbells and Jones bars) with a quill stem? If it's possible, 
> I say Jones Loop all the way.
>
> Sean
> ATX
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Philip Kim]

Thats mine!

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:42:27 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:
>
> Here is a photo my friend Jay took of a couple of Hunqs with different set 
> ups.. The bike on the right runs some type of dirt drop.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/HyyYyE
>
> I also was just in Gravel & Grind yesterday and saw a Hunq they are 
> setting up with a Jones stem and Bar, and it looked great.
>
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> My Hunq has arrived and the bike shop will start my build shortly. So far 
>> it my build will be:
>>
>> Brooks Swift, Nitto Seatpost
>> Paul cantis (retro front, touring rear)
>> Haulin Colin Front Rack
>> Marks rack for rear
>> Atlass 26" wheelset, dyno front
>> Compass Rat Traps tubeless
>> 10 speed, SLX/XT mix, 11-34 cassette
>> White Industries VBC crank
>>
>> I'm having trouble deciding on the cockpit.
>>
>> I've very torn between having Salsa Cowbells or Jones Loop bar on there. 
>> Would a drop bars even make sense on a Hunq? If Jones Loop bar, I would get 
>> Microshift MTB thumbies, and Paul Levers. But if it's Salsa, I might try to 
>> go the Gevenalle/IRD style shifting.
>>
>> I was wondering if Hunq owners can share their favorite Hunq build/pics 
>> for inspiration. I've been looking at Flickr, but I know not everyone 
>> uploads pictures there.
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Icebreaker longsleeve merino shirt - Blue - Size Large - $25; Smartwool longsleeve merino - Green - size Large - $35

[Belopsky]

My phone is broken, I cannot get a photos..

Icebreaker:
Size Large. It's not perfect, a few snags/holes (I count 4) but would be 
great to layer as baselayer. Not as tight as the next item..

$25 shipped USA . Pay today, ships today.

Smartwool:
Size large. Looks fine, no holes. Very comfortable, thicker merino. Soft 
soft. It's green/lighter green. I do have a random photo of the texture of 
this one. $35 shipped USA. Pay today, ships today.




Both for $50 shipped!

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[RBW] Re: Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[Lungimsam]

Forgot to mention:

While there are no station stops along the way to drop off/pick up 
passengers. It does stop a few times:

The train stops in South Carolina to swap engineers around 2:30 am I was 
told(?).
You can relieve your service dog there at that time.

They also stop to give right of way to any CSX trains, as CSX owns the 
railroad tracks, not Amtrak. So CSX gets priority. Also the commuter Amtrak 
trains get priority. That's what I was told, anyway.

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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[John G]

Here is another shot of the dirt drop Hunq, showing (I think) the IRD 
equivalent of the genavale levers/controls.

https://flic.kr/p/GPZdnQ


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[RBW] Re: Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[Deacon Patrick]

What a gift you could help your Dad, and that he is doing weller!

Those flowers are amazing! Birds and flowers as matched accessories. Wow! 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> In March I went to Tampa to help take care of my Dad during his 6 week 
> stem cell transplant and recovery process. After a total 8 months of 
> chemo...cancer-free!!! Praise the Lord!!! He got through the treatments as 
> easily as a person can - with minimal bad effects. It definitely wasn't 
> easy, but on the easiest side of things as treatment goes. So I am also 
> thankful for that.
>
> I had driven down (16 hours in one shot - auto-nneuring!) and brought my 
> Blue Sam. Having been down there before caregiving, I knew I would be able 
> to take a quick spin every day as time allowed.
>
> First few weeks I rode through the USF Campus to Moffitt Cancer Center 
> Hospital and back to our nearby rented apartment as a way to ride daily. 
> Commuting to the hospital, basically.
> Dad would kvell to the nurses that I rode every day. :)
> When he was released to apartment nearby the hospital I'd take a daily 
> quick jaunt in adjacent neighborhood.
> When he was released home I took daily quick spins through the 
> neighborhood.
>
> Here are some pics of the rides and pretty flora and fauna and 
> neighborhoods. A couple videos, too. Enjoy.
>
> I always heard that Cancer and Cancer treatment is a horrifying thing, but 
> never knew about the logistical nightmare treatment entails for the patient 
> and the agony of living in fear and uncertainty.
> I am very proud of my Dad. Such a frightening thing to face but he got 
> though it and is now getting his life back, even driving and going out 
> again. As his immune system matures he will be able to do more and more 
> normal activities.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/albums/72157669464666796
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Chevy-ut meets Betty, falls in love.

[Michael Hechmer]

She hasn't ridden it yet.  She has a fairly long torso and is use to being 
stretched out.  We bought the smallest frame, one size smaller than the Riv 
recommended for her height but don't expect to have much seat post showing.
Michael

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:36:30 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Ah, the pains and travails of building a bike from non-spec, non-standard 
> parts. But very nice job.
>
> I am surprised that the C takes drop bars, with the long effective top 
> tube length designed for sweep back bars. How does it ride with them?
>
> I came across this just now when Googling Cheviot Geometry:
>
> https://momentummag.com/rivendell-cheviot-review/
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Michael Hechmer  > wrote:
>
>> Ever Since Pat's Betty Foy arrived here for Christmas of '14 my daughter 
>> has been oogling it.  This year she upped the campaign by telling us that 
>> she was having trouble getting her leg over her Soma Double Cross with our 
>> grandson, Simon, on the tag along.  So we put a plan together.  I bought 
>> the frameset, along with BB, HS, & seatpost.  She bought a pair of the Clem 
>> wheels, and Tectro brakes.  Everything else was to come off of her mothers 
>> old Specialized Sequoia, which had nice old parts on it.
>>
>> The frame arrived and I popped it into my repair stand, then dug the 
>> sequoia and an old repair stand out of the basement.  That's when Murphy 
>> joined the team and offered to help!  First up remove the pretty Shimano 
>> 600 crank and put it on the Cheviut.  No way it was goint to work with that 
>> BB, which was way too short.  I figured Riv had planned for a Sugino crank, 
>> which is what's on my Trek, along with a BB that is too long for it.  Got 
>> out the Trek, pulled the crank arms & BB.  Installed BB in the Chevy.  
>> Still too short.  Reassembled Trek and returned to Sequoia to take off the 
>> Stronglight BB.  Went to pull the left side crank arm and the threads 
>> stripped out.  I wondered how long the crank & BB had been together?  I 
>> managed to remove the BB & arm as a single unit.  I soaked the joint in 
>> liquid wrench and started through the parts bin, looking for an 
>> alternative.  As luck would have it I found an old and nice Specialized 
>> crank, which didn't work with any modern FD, but had a near perfect mach 
>> for the left arm.  More soaking and a half hour of gentle hammering 
>> released the damaged arm from the Stronglight.  They look good on the 
>> Chevy.  Next up, derailleurs.  XT FD zip, zip, I'm done.  Ultegra RD just 
>> doesn't want to go on??!!  Turns out the small flap that the B screw goes 
>> through is bent.  After much struggle I failed to straighten it and 
>> realized I needed to disassemble the derailleur.  Couldn't figure out how 
>> to do that so headed off (15 miles) to the LBS and my favorite cycologist, 
>> Gene.  He said it's easy, but best you had not tried to do it.  All you 
>> need to do is remove this clip, but if you don't have your finger here you 
>> end up with lots of small parts all over the bench and no idea how to put 
>> it back together.  Back home we moved on to the cassette.  Seperated it 
>> from the Sequoia and realized it was a SRAM, which Pat had complained never 
>> shifted well.  I remembered it didn't shift well when it was on my bike 
>> either.  Two strikes, it's out.  Back to the parts bin.  Found, a brand new 
>> shimano cassette, only it was missing a cog, the 12.  No problem, as I 
>> always buy an extra small cog with every cassette, so I had one to spare.  
>> Only I couldn't get all nine cogs on the hub.  Tried and tried and tried.  
>> Would not fit.  Suddenly the light went off - this is an eight speed 
>> cassette!  I have no idea how this thing came into my house because I have 
>> never ridden an eight speed set up.  I went directly from 7 to 9. Put on a 
>> chain and adjusted the deraillers, which would have been quicker if I could 
>> have remembered which screw was up and which down.
>>
>> Next came the cock pit.  This was going to be easy because I had a pair 
>> of drop bars, which is what she wanted, already attached to the stem, with 
>> brake & shift levers, and HB tape all in place, and all the cable housing 
>> beautifully tucked under the tape.  But, it was not to be.  The cable 
>> housing were all about an inch too short.  Back to LBS for new housing.  
>> Start over.  Cut the seat post because RBW shipped the worlds longest post 
>> with their shortest bike.  Next up reconfigure the cream long boards and 
>> get them on the Chevy.  I have all ready written about the joy of that.  
>> Finally some good news.  The kickstand went on easy.
>>
>> But, alls well that ends well.  
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02Ju8EH6JsYKHF
>>
>> Suzanne will come over this weekend for a final set-up and send off.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [RBW] Chevy-ut meets Betty, falls in love.

[LeahFoy]

You are the sweetest dad ever, Michael! I loved reading about your odyssey and 
laughed out loud at the 'Finally, some good news: the kickstand went on no 
problem' ending. Where will your daughter's new Cheviut be taking her? I'm 
curious about her drop bars, too. 

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[RBW] Re: Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[Lungimsam]

Hi Erl,

>From where I live (just north of DC) it takes 16 hours *by car* non-stop 
except for hopping out of the car and taking a bathroom break at each 
state's welcome center and then hopping back in the car and continuing. 
That's obeying the speed limits.

I took the auto train to get back home. I liked the auto train. I am sure 
others may have different opinions. But based on my experience I would say:

*Pros of auto train:*

1.You drive up at the dedicated auto train station, get out of your car, 
and walk right into the station. Car drop off and pickup couldn't be 
easier. They slap a magnetic number on your car and give you a travel 
folder with the info inside. You leave your bike and all your luggage 
in your car. It then goes on a train car that is on your train.
2.You have your car with you right away when you get off the train. Maybe 
takes a half hour to get all the cars off? They say up to 1.5 hours, but I 
think I waited 30 minutes or so for mine to come off the train. They 
definitely were hurrying to get the cars off the train, as you could stand 
and watch them fly off the train one after the other.
3.You don't have to worry about car breaking down and having to work out 
the logistics of getting to your destination.
4.You don't have to worry about getting too sleepy to drive.
5.You don't have to stop and get hotel if you get too sleepy to drive.
6.You don't have to stop and sleep at a rest stop and risk your safety.
7. I rode business class. A slight bump up in fee but worth it. Never done 
it before but the price jump was not a lot and it sounded like a good 
upgrade.
I got to eat with the sleeper car passengers in the dining car. Food was 
excellent and fresh.
8. They served dinner and breakfast. Train left early afternoon and arrived 
in the morning after breakfast in VA.
9. My seat was on the upper level of the train - great views!
10. I could almost lay flat when their seats lean back and there is 
an extension that comes out of bottom of seat for stretching out legs all 
the way.
11. Seats are wide and roomy.
12. Movies in the lounge car.
13. It wasn't crowded at all on the train, even though the station was full 
before departure. ~50 seats in my car. Only ~10 people in the car. I slept 
well along the two seats in my row. Quiet.
14. You can even bump up to three different levels of sleeper cars that 
have beds. But if you do this, I recommend going whole hog and getting the 
best, because:

*Cons of auto train:*
1. Lower priced sleeper cars are vey tight and looked like very cramped 
quarters. One I saw you have to mount the bed from out in the train 
hallway. Like a mini closet you sleep in.
The more expensive car I saw looked like a mini room with space to stretch 
out.
2. One passenger told me she doesn't do sleeper cars and prefers seats 
because of the train's side-to-side rocking movement when laying down makes 
it hard for her to sleep. Also said the bed wasn't long enough for her.
3. Train can be late to depart.
4. Mine was a couple hours late to depart.
5. Bathrooms are airplane sized. Not really a con, but just to let you know.

So, if you are willing to resign yourself to a full day of train travel, 
and then the car ride to your destination/home, I think it is well worth it 
so you can have your own car and not have to rent/lease.
I thought it was fine and most of the passengers seemed to be snow-birds 
that I talked to.
One lady told me that she once tried to fly down for the winter and have 
her car delivered by truck. She says that after you get to Florida it still 
takes a few days for the car to get delivered, so you have no car for three 
days. Once her car was stranded in Nevada. Got rerouted by the car delivery 
people somehow. So now she takes the auto train so her car is with her on 
the train, and she drives off into the sunset when she gets off the train.







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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[s...@austin.utexas.edu]

Just curious, how are you going to accommodate for the 31.8 clamp diameter 
(of both the cowbells and Jones bars) with a quill stem? If it's possible, 
I say Jones Loop all the way.

Sean
ATX


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[RBW] Re: Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[John G]

Here is a photo my friend Jay took of a couple of Hunqs with different set 
ups.. The bike on the right runs some type of dirt drop.

https://flic.kr/p/HyyYyE

I also was just in Gravel & Grind yesterday and saw a Hunq they are setting 
up with a Jones stem and Bar, and it looked great.


On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> My Hunq has arrived and the bike shop will start my build shortly. So far 
> it my build will be:
>
> Brooks Swift, Nitto Seatpost
> Paul cantis (retro front, touring rear)
> Haulin Colin Front Rack
> Marks rack for rear
> Atlass 26" wheelset, dyno front
> Compass Rat Traps tubeless
> 10 speed, SLX/XT mix, 11-34 cassette
> White Industries VBC crank
>
> I'm having trouble deciding on the cockpit.
>
> I've very torn between having Salsa Cowbells or Jones Loop bar on there. 
> Would a drop bars even make sense on a Hunq? If Jones Loop bar, I would get 
> Microshift MTB thumbies, and Paul Levers. But if it's Salsa, I might try to 
> go the Gevenalle/IRD style shifting.
>
> I was wondering if Hunq owners can share their favorite Hunq build/pics 
> for inspiration. I've been looking at Flickr, but I know not everyone 
> uploads pictures there.
>

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Re: [RBW] Chevy-ut meets Betty, falls in love.

[Patrick Moore]

Ah, the pains and travails of building a bike from non-spec, non-standard
parts. But very nice job.

I am surprised that the C takes drop bars, with the long effective top tube
length designed for sweep back bars. How does it ride with them?

I came across this just now when Googling Cheviot Geometry:

https://momentummag.com/rivendell-cheviot-review/

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> Ever Since Pat's Betty Foy arrived here for Christmas of '14 my daughter
> has been oogling it.  This year she upped the campaign by telling us that
> she was having trouble getting her leg over her Soma Double Cross with our
> grandson, Simon, on the tag along.  So we put a plan together.  I bought
> the frameset, along with BB, HS, & seatpost.  She bought a pair of the Clem
> wheels, and Tectro brakes.  Everything else was to come off of her mothers
> old Specialized Sequoia, which had nice old parts on it.
>
> The frame arrived and I popped it into my repair stand, then dug the
> sequoia and an old repair stand out of the basement.  That's when Murphy
> joined the team and offered to help!  First up remove the pretty Shimano
> 600 crank and put it on the Cheviut.  No way it was goint to work with that
> BB, which was way too short.  I figured Riv had planned for a Sugino crank,
> which is what's on my Trek, along with a BB that is too long for it.  Got
> out the Trek, pulled the crank arms & BB.  Installed BB in the Chevy.
> Still too short.  Reassembled Trek and returned to Sequoia to take off the
> Stronglight BB.  Went to pull the left side crank arm and the threads
> stripped out.  I wondered how long the crank & BB had been together?  I
> managed to remove the BB & arm as a single unit.  I soaked the joint in
> liquid wrench and started through the parts bin, looking for an
> alternative.  As luck would have it I found an old and nice Specialized
> crank, which didn't work with any modern FD, but had a near perfect mach
> for the left arm.  More soaking and a half hour of gentle hammering
> released the damaged arm from the Stronglight.  They look good on the
> Chevy.  Next up, derailleurs.  XT FD zip, zip, I'm done.  Ultegra RD just
> doesn't want to go on??!!  Turns out the small flap that the B screw goes
> through is bent.  After much struggle I failed to straighten it and
> realized I needed to disassemble the derailleur.  Couldn't figure out how
> to do that so headed off (15 miles) to the LBS and my favorite cycologist,
> Gene.  He said it's easy, but best you had not tried to do it.  All you
> need to do is remove this clip, but if you don't have your finger here you
> end up with lots of small parts all over the bench and no idea how to put
> it back together.  Back home we moved on to the cassette.  Seperated it
> from the Sequoia and realized it was a SRAM, which Pat had complained never
> shifted well.  I remembered it didn't shift well when it was on my bike
> either.  Two strikes, it's out.  Back to the parts bin.  Found, a brand new
> shimano cassette, only it was missing a cog, the 12.  No problem, as I
> always buy an extra small cog with every cassette, so I had one to spare.
> Only I couldn't get all nine cogs on the hub.  Tried and tried and tried.
> Would not fit.  Suddenly the light went off - this is an eight speed
> cassette!  I have no idea how this thing came into my house because I have
> never ridden an eight speed set up.  I went directly from 7 to 9. Put on a
> chain and adjusted the deraillers, which would have been quicker if I could
> have remembered which screw was up and which down.
>
> Next came the cock pit.  This was going to be easy because I had a pair of
> drop bars, which is what she wanted, already attached to the stem, with
> brake & shift levers, and HB tape all in place, and all the cable housing
> beautifully tucked under the tape.  But, it was not to be.  The cable
> housing were all about an inch too short.  Back to LBS for new housing.
> Start over.  Cut the seat post because RBW shipped the worlds longest post
> with their shortest bike.  Next up reconfigure the cream long boards and
> get them on the Chevy.  I have all ready written about the joy of that.
> Finally some good news.  The kickstand went on easy.
>
> But, alls well that ends well.
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02Ju8EH6JsYKHF
>
> Suzanne will come over this weekend for a final set-up and send off.
>
> Michael
>
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[RBW] WTB Jitensha Ebisu All-Purpose

[John L]

https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/182164863063  (Not mine)

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[RBW] Share Hunq Build / pics and ideas?

[Philip Kim]

My Hunq has arrived and the bike shop will start my build shortly. So far 
it my build will be:

Brooks Swift, Nitto Seatpost
Paul cantis (retro front, touring rear)
Haulin Colin Front Rack
Marks rack for rear
Atlass 26" wheelset, dyno front
Compass Rat Traps tubeless
10 speed, SLX/XT mix, 11-34 cassette
White Industries VBC crank

I'm having trouble deciding on the cockpit.

I've very torn between having Salsa Cowbells or Jones Loop bar on there. 
Would a drop bars even make sense on a Hunq? If Jones Loop bar, I would get 
Microshift MTB thumbies, and Paul Levers. But if it's Salsa, I might try to 
go the Gevenalle/IRD style shifting.

I was wondering if Hunq owners can share their favorite Hunq build/pics for 
inspiration. I've been looking at Flickr, but I know not everyone uploads 
pictures there.

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[RBW] Re: Chevy-ut meets Betty, falls in love.

[Shoji Takahashi]

Wonderful, Michael! 

I could have been the principle of your story, too. I'm pretty sure that's 
happened to me a few times, though I would've cut the seat post too short 
and had to buy another one. 

Tailwinds to your daughter on her beautiful new Cheviot.

shoji



On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:14:20 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Ever Since Pat's Betty Foy arrived here for Christmas of '14 my daughter 
> has been oogling it.  This year she upped the campaign by telling us that 
> she was having trouble getting her leg over her Soma Double Cross with our 
> grandson, Simon, on the tag along.  So we put a plan together.  I bought 
> the frameset, along with BB, HS, & seatpost.  She bought a pair of the Clem 
> wheels, and Tectro brakes.  Everything else was to come off of her mothers 
> old Specialized Sequoia, which had nice old parts on it.
>
> The frame arrived and I popped it into my repair stand, then dug the 
> sequoia and an old repair stand out of the basement.  That's when Murphy 
> joined the team and offered to help!  First up remove the pretty Shimano 
> 600 crank and put it on the Cheviut.  No way it was goint to work with that 
> BB, which was way too short.  I figured Riv had planned for a Sugino crank, 
> which is what's on my Trek, along with a BB that is too long for it.  Got 
> out the Trek, pulled the crank arms & BB.  Installed BB in the Chevy. 
>  Still too short.  Reassembled Trek and returned to Sequoia to take off the 
> Stronglight BB.  Went to pull the left side crank arm and the threads 
> stripped out.  I wondered how long the crank & BB had been together?  I 
> managed to remove the BB & arm as a single unit.  I soaked the joint in 
> liquid wrench and started through the parts bin, looking for an 
> alternative.  As luck would have it I found an old and nice Specialized 
> crank, which didn't work with any modern FD, but had a near perfect mach 
> for the left arm.  More soaking and a half hour of gentle hammering 
> released the damaged arm from the Stronglight.  They look good on the 
> Chevy.  Next up, derailleurs.  XT FD zip, zip, I'm done.  Ultegra RD just 
> doesn't want to go on??!!  Turns out the small flap that the B screw goes 
> through is bent.  After much struggle I failed to straighten it and 
> realized I needed to disassemble the derailleur.  Couldn't figure out how 
> to do that so headed off (15 miles) to the LBS and my favorite cycologist, 
> Gene.  He said it's easy, but best you had not tried to do it.  All you 
> need to do is remove this clip, but if you don't have your finger here you 
> end up with lots of small parts all over the bench and no idea how to put 
> it back together.  Back home we moved on to the cassette.  Seperated it 
> from the Sequoia and realized it was a SRAM, which Pat had complained never 
> shifted well.  I remembered it didn't shift well when it was on my bike 
> either.  Two strikes, it's out.  Back to the parts bin.  Found, a brand new 
> shimano cassette, only it was missing a cog, the 12.  No problem, as I 
> always buy an extra small cog with every cassette, so I had one to spare. 
>  Only I couldn't get all nine cogs on the hub.  Tried and tried and tried. 
>  Would not fit.  Suddenly the light went off - this is an eight speed 
> cassette!  I have no idea how this thing came into my house because I have 
> never ridden an eight speed set up.  I went directly from 7 to 9. Put on a 
> chain and adjusted the deraillers, which would have been quicker if I could 
> have remembered which screw was up and which down.
>
> Next came the cock pit.  This was going to be easy because I had a pair of 
> drop bars, which is what she wanted, already attached to the stem, with 
> brake & shift levers, and HB tape all in place, and all the cable housing 
> beautifully tucked under the tape.  But, it was not to be.  The cable 
> housing were all about an inch too short.  Back to LBS for new housing. 
>  Start over.  Cut the seat post because RBW shipped the worlds longest post 
> with their shortest bike.  Next up reconfigure the cream long boards and 
> get them on the Chevy.  I have all ready written about the joy of that. 
>  Finally some good news.  The kickstand went on easy.
>
> But, alls well that ends well.  
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02Ju8EH6JsYKHF
>
> Suzanne will come over this weekend for a final set-up and send off.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Chevy-ut meets Betty, falls in love.

[Michael Hechmer]

Ever Since Pat's Betty Foy arrived here for Christmas of '14 my daughter 
has been oogling it.  This year she upped the campaign by telling us that 
she was having trouble getting her leg over her Soma Double Cross with our 
grandson, Simon, on the tag along.  So we put a plan together.  I bought 
the frameset, along with BB, HS, & seatpost.  She bought a pair of the Clem 
wheels, and Tectro brakes.  Everything else was to come off of her mothers 
old Specialized Sequoia, which had nice old parts on it.

The frame arrived and I popped it into my repair stand, then dug the 
sequoia and an old repair stand out of the basement.  That's when Murphy 
joined the team and offered to help!  First up remove the pretty Shimano 
600 crank and put it on the Cheviut.  No way it was goint to work with that 
BB, which was way too short.  I figured Riv had planned for a Sugino crank, 
which is what's on my Trek, along with a BB that is too long for it.  Got 
out the Trek, pulled the crank arms & BB.  Installed BB in the Chevy. 
 Still too short.  Reassembled Trek and returned to Sequoia to take off the 
Stronglight BB.  Went to pull the left side crank arm and the threads 
stripped out.  I wondered how long the crank & BB had been together?  I 
managed to remove the BB & arm as a single unit.  I soaked the joint in 
liquid wrench and started through the parts bin, looking for an 
alternative.  As luck would have it I found an old and nice Specialized 
crank, which didn't work with any modern FD, but had a near perfect mach 
for the left arm.  More soaking and a half hour of gentle hammering 
released the damaged arm from the Stronglight.  They look good on the 
Chevy.  Next up, derailleurs.  XT FD zip, zip, I'm done.  Ultegra RD just 
doesn't want to go on??!!  Turns out the small flap that the B screw goes 
through is bent.  After much struggle I failed to straighten it and 
realized I needed to disassemble the derailleur.  Couldn't figure out how 
to do that so headed off (15 miles) to the LBS and my favorite cycologist, 
Gene.  He said it's easy, but best you had not tried to do it.  All you 
need to do is remove this clip, but if you don't have your finger here you 
end up with lots of small parts all over the bench and no idea how to put 
it back together.  Back home we moved on to the cassette.  Seperated it 
from the Sequoia and realized it was a SRAM, which Pat had complained never 
shifted well.  I remembered it didn't shift well when it was on my bike 
either.  Two strikes, it's out.  Back to the parts bin.  Found, a brand new 
shimano cassette, only it was missing a cog, the 12.  No problem, as I 
always buy an extra small cog with every cassette, so I had one to spare. 
 Only I couldn't get all nine cogs on the hub.  Tried and tried and tried. 
 Would not fit.  Suddenly the light went off - this is an eight speed 
cassette!  I have no idea how this thing came into my house because I have 
never ridden an eight speed set up.  I went directly from 7 to 9. Put on a 
chain and adjusted the deraillers, which would have been quicker if I could 
have remembered which screw was up and which down.

Next came the cock pit.  This was going to be easy because I had a pair of 
drop bars, which is what she wanted, already attached to the stem, with 
brake & shift levers, and HB tape all in place, and all the cable housing 
beautifully tucked under the tape.  But, it was not to be.  The cable 
housing were all about an inch too short.  Back to LBS for new housing. 
 Start over.  Cut the seat post because RBW shipped the worlds longest post 
with their shortest bike.  Next up reconfigure the cream long boards and 
get them on the Chevy.  I have all ready written about the joy of that. 
 Finally some good news.  The kickstand went on easy.

But, alls well that ends well. 
 https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02Ju8EH6JsYKHF

Suzanne will come over this weekend for a final set-up and send off.

Michael

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[RBW] Rivendell Choco-Moose Bars FS

[Kainalu]

I would like these please. I'll send you a private message asap.
-Kai
Brooklyn NY 

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Re: [RBW] Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[Patrick Moore]

Beautiful bike and surroundings -- all that green looks so exotic!

I'm glad to hear that your father is well; fortunately you were able to
help.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> In March I went to Tampa to help take care of my Dad during his 6 week
> stem cell transplant and recovery process. After a total 8 months of
> chemo...cancer-free!!! Praise the Lord!!! He got through the treatments as
> easily as a person can - with minimal bad effects. It definitely wasn't
> easy, but on the easiest side of things as treatment goes. So I am also
> thankful for that.
>
> I had driven down (16 hours in one shot - auto-nneuring!) and brought my
> Blue Sam. Having been down there before caregiving, I knew I would be able
> to take a quick spin every day as time allowed.
>
> First few weeks I rode through the USF Campus to Moffitt Cancer Center
> Hospital and back to our nearby rented apartment as a way to ride daily.
> Commuting to the hospital, basically.
> Dad would kvell to the nurses that I rode every day. :)
> When he was released to apartment nearby the hospital I'd take a daily
> quick jaunt in adjacent neighborhood.
> When he was released home I took daily quick spins through the
> neighborhood.
>
> Here are some pics of the rides and pretty flora and fauna and
> neighborhoods. A couple videos, too. Enjoy.
>
> I always heard that Cancer and Cancer treatment is a horrifying thing, but
> never knew about the logistical nightmare treatment entails for the patient
> and the agony of living in fear and uncertainty.
> I am very proud of my Dad. Such a frightening thing to face but he got
> though it and is now getting his life back, even driving and going out
> again. As his immune system matures he will be able to do more and more
> normal activities.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/albums/72157669464666796
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[RBW] Rivendell Choco-Moose Bars FS

[James Valiensi]

Hi,
I changed out my JA Choco-Moose bars for the Bullmoose bars when I received 
the bicycle. The shape is not for me. The bars are like new.
I'll need a big box to ship, so that is why the shipping cost is high.
$100 (net to me) + $20 shipping

James Valiensi
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[RBW] BUMP: FS: Toe clips, Brahma Bar/T-Bone stem combo

[Patrick Moore]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Prices do not include shipping.
>
> 1. Pair Avocet L clips, used, $10.
>
> 2. Pair Ideale, SM or M?, $10.
>
> 4. Tioga T-Bone stem, 135 mm, $10.
>
> 5. Brahma Bar, $20.
>
> Take both the stem and bar for $25.
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>
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>
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[RBW] BUMP: FS: BBs, brake calipers, "time trial" or reverse brake levers, M 324 pedals

[Patrick Moore]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Am interested in trade/part trade for a clamp on, 31.8 mm diam shifter
> boss.
>
> Prices do *not* include shipping.
>
> Photos below.
>
> 1. 68 mm/113 mm Phil bb, used spindle, brand new cartridge -- 0 miles --
> with steel cups: $60.
>
> 2. 68mm/113 mm Shimano bb, metal cups, used but still good (OEM on Sam
> Hill): $20.
>
> 3. M 324 pedals $20.
>
> 4. Dia Compe 188 reverse levers, vg, $20.
>
> 5. Rivendell Silver  standard reach brakes with original cartridge pads,
> $30. BUT!!! see the photo which shows how I filed the *REAR* arch a wee
> bit in a vain attempt to get a wee bit more fender clearance. I did this
> only on the *REAR* caliper, and I believe that this caliper is perfectly
> safe. YMMV.
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Upside down controls a la Rivendell = Campy brifter convenience

[Lungimsam]

I know rhey used to advocate reversing sides with bar ends for ease of D-ring 
adjustment while riding.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: drop bar brake levers, down tube or bar end shifters

[Belopsky]

Honestly I don't know the difference - suntour barcons are friction only?

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:37:02 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> Are you looking for indexed bar ends or Suntour Bar-Cons?
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 6:25:01 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> More interested in the drop bar levers as I think I may have the bar 
>> end/down tube figured out right now..
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My Kuwahara. I bought the frame and fork on eBay and it was pretty beat up, 
but I have never yet been able to bring myself to erase a bicycle's 
history. I like me some beautiful usage. I like the silver panels with the 
BRG. I usually end up liking whatever color my bike happens to be, though I 
suppose bright reds are not my fave.



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> All in good fun, let's show Bill our BRG bikes!
> I'll start - BMC Monster Cross single speed 'road bike for dirt' - 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BGbx9nOMmeI/
> David 
> Chicago
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[RBW] Cycling in Tampa with pics...

[WETH]

Those are some lovely photos!  
What a blessing your presence and help were to your father!  When my mother 
battled cancer, I was struck by the complexity of the system and her profound 
need for friends/family (Angels) to help her navigate the physical, emotional, 
financial, and logistical demands. You are clearly a great son!  Glad your dad 
is in remission!
How was the auto train?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Fenders

[ascpgh]

Pursuing the paradox of more (supple tire width, fenders, brake clearance 
of both without contact at rest), I just installed Paul Racers and Compass 
Stampede Passes on my fendered Rambouillet. The center mount Racer caliper 
does an amazing job of keeping clear of the space reserved for tire and 
fender clearance at rest or in use. No more rattles from fenders against 
lumpy brake arms from off-center bumps! 

First impressions are exceedingly good on all functioning fronts, so much 
that I'm waiting until my miles tested assure validity before I pronounce 
the outcome an unqualified success.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:29:22 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 06/10/2016 05:59 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> This is true.  My wife, Pat, has a Betty Foy, and now my daughter, 
> Suzanne, has a Chevy-ut.  The fender width on these frames is limited by 
> the brake width.  P45's just fit, in fact with the QR open the fender is 
> forced down onto the front tire.  Pat got the demo Betty and it came 
> withP45s and the Fatty Bumpkin tires, which are 41 mm.  They just barely 
> fit and the slightest misalignment caused them to rub.  I ended up putting 
> the 41s on my Saluki, which has canti brakes &  big VO fenders.  I gave Pat 
> my 38mm Marathon Racers and they fit fine.   Tires bigger than than 38 
> pretty much need cantis or V brakes.  *Compass claims that their CP will 
> go wider but they require unique studs.*  I see that GP has designed the 
> Clem for bigger posted brakes, which make more sense.  I would rather spend 
> the extra setup time on good cantis than deal with a too tight 
> brake-fender-tire combo.
>
>
> That's not a "claim," it's fact.  
>
> The Compass centerpull can be thought of as a Mafac RAID version 1.1.  The 
> RAID was available in a bolt-on version, and I have that brake on my 
> Kogswell P/R.  With the straddle cable Q/R undone, it opens wide enough 
> that you never even notice the brake removing and replacing a 42mm Hetre.   
> The pivots are Mafac centerpull pivots, and if you have a pair of RAID 
> backing plates you could mount Compass brakes on any bike set up for 
> bolt-on centerpull brakes, so the studs aren't quite as "unique" as your 
> statement makes them sound.  Thanks to the availability of the Compass 
> centerpull, the price of Mafac RAIDs on ebay has stopped its meteoric rise; 
> I just checked, and there's one set available right now complete with 
> levers for $150 BIN, and another NOS for $299.  Compass makes the bushings, 
> etc. available, so if someone wanted to, they could buy a set of RAIDs on 
> ebay (all of which I've ever seen come with backing plates) and bring them 
> up to the level of the Compass brakes. 
>
> Bottom line: if you're looking for a brake for your Rivendell that can 
> easily fit a tire the width of a Hetre, Mafac RAID centerpulls are a viable 
> option.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Fenders

[Steve Palincsar]

On 06/10/2016 05:59 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
This is true.  My wife, Pat, has a Betty Foy, and now my daughter, 
Suzanne, has a Chevy-ut.  The fender width on these frames is limited 
by the brake width.  P45's just fit, in fact with the QR open the 
fender is forced down onto the front tire.  Pat got the demo Betty and 
it came withP45s and the Fatty Bumpkin tires, which are 41 mm.  They 
just barely fit and the slightest misalignment caused them to rub.  I 
ended up putting the 41s on my Saluki, which has canti brakes &  big 
VO fenders.  I gave Pat my 38mm Marathon Racers and they fit fine.   
Tires bigger than than 38 pretty much need cantis or V brakes. 
*Compass claims that their CP will go wider but they require unique 
studs.*  I see that GP has designed the Clem for bigger posted brakes, 
which make more sense.  I would rather spend the extra setup time on 
good cantis than deal with a too tight brake-fender-tire combo.


That's not a "claim," it's fact.

The Compass centerpull can be thought of as a Mafac RAID version 1.1.  
The RAID was available in a bolt-on version, and I have that brake on my 
Kogswell P/R.  With the straddle cable Q/R undone, it opens wide enough 
that you never even notice the brake removing and replacing a 42mm 
Hetre.   The pivots are Mafac centerpull pivots, and if you have a pair 
of RAID backing plates you could mount Compass brakes on any bike set up 
for bolt-on centerpull brakes, so the studs aren't quite as "unique" as 
your statement makes them sound.  Thanks to the availability of the 
Compass centerpull, the price of Mafac RAIDs on ebay has stopped its 
meteoric rise; I just checked, and there's one set available right now 
complete with levers for $150 BIN, and another NOS for $299.  Compass 
makes the bushings, etc. available, so if someone wanted to, they could 
buy a set of RAIDs on ebay (all of which I've ever seen come with 
backing plates) and bring them up to the level of the Compass brakes.


Bottom line: if you're looking for a brake for your Rivendell that can 
easily fit a tire the width of a Hetre, Mafac RAID centerpulls are a 
viable option.


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[RBW] Re: Upside down controls a la Rivendell = Campy brifter convenience

[ascpgh]

Brake mount screw on the outside looks like it moves the lump and screw 
head away from the thumb operating the shifter. Details, details. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:04:39 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I didn't know they reversed the brake levers, too. Interesting. 

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