Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

['pb' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:14:36 AM UTC-7, Matt B. wrote:
>
> PBH - 25cm for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere 
> near saddle height.


That's precisely consistent with my own experience.  For anybody who wants 
another source of data, I have a lot of respect for the Competitive Cyclist 
fit calculator.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp

That calculator refers to three fit styles - competitive (contemporary 
race), Eddy (traditional race), and French.  I would think that the French 
fit would suit many Riv riders (as it does me).  Even for those who want 
high bars, it should get the frame size relative to saddle height about 
right, and should get top tube length about right.  Upright bars with back 
sweep, I have no idea.  

~pb

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA 61cm atlantis frameset on ebay

[Mark Wilkins]

It might be too small, but it could depend on what sort of standover
you'd like.  I'm a 90ish PBH, ride a 61 Atlantis with Little Big Bens,
and have very little standover.  If you're looking for more breathing
room, you could probably make a 61cm work with a longer stem and a
little more seatpost.

Mark

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:14 PM, NGross  wrote:
> Any ideas on to what PBH this would be good for? I'm at 91.5, thinking this
> might be too small.
>
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 6:41:28 AM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Toyo-Built-61cm-Rivendell-Atlantis-2-Touring-Frame-set-/112044859069?nav=SEARCH
>>
>> Sky in new west
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[RBW] Re: Is there a trick to reassembling center-pull brake calipers?

[Mark Wilkins]

Many thanks for the suggestions, everyone!  The best idea I heard was
not to take them apart in the first place. ;-)

My final solution was to assemble the brakes with the left spring
under the hook.  I then laid the brake on its left side and applied
pressure to the bridge.  This compressed the brake and gave me room to
work with the other (unhooked) spring.  I had tried a few different
tools to press/leverage the spring into place but they kept slipping
off.  Finally, I tried some needle-nose pliers (again), and was able
work the spring under the right hook.

Thanks again,

Mark

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Mark Wilkins  wrote:
> I have some older Shimano Tourney center-pulls that I'm going to try
> on my Ram.  I disassembled one of the brakes to clean it up a bit, and
> now I simply cannot get it back together.  The problem is trying to
> get both springs up under the hooks on the brake bridge.
>
> Here are the brakes:
>
> http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=6928_imageViewsIndex=1
>
> Anyone had to reassemble one of these?  Have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark

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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Eric Norris]

I was very lucky and found this at an estate sale here in Sacramento. First 
time in more than 30 years it had seen daylight. I snapped it up.

Eric N
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> On Jul 3, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:
> 
> Very nice. My broinlaw has two but not in such nice condition. Whats your 
> secret?
> https://flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157633937039591
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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Eric Norris]

Tempting, but I'm on the one-in-one-out plan, per my directeur sportif.

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> On Jul 3, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:
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> Interested in trading for these two above?
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Re: [RBW] Hunq porteur options?

[Dan McNamara]

I have used both a Haulin' Colin and a Pass & Stow porteur rack. If you want to 
use front panniers without adding more rack hardware the P is a great choice. 

Both are good choices and super solid racks. 

I have a P on my Cheviot currently. A little tight getting the mount plate 
over the side-pull brake - that would not be an issue with the Hunq, of course. 


Dan

Marin, CA 

> On Jul 3, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
> 
> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and 
> I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. 
> I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the 
> newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
> attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
> 
> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
> 
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Lungimsam]

Interested in trading for these two above?

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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Lungimsam]

Very nice. My broinlaw has two but not in such nice condition. Whats your 
secret?
https://flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157633937039591

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Esteban]

+1 P - mine did great traveling with a demontable in an S case from 
Portland to dirt adventures on Mt. Tam: 

https://instagram.com/p/BHD07ddByd-/

You can get the longer-legged version to fit over your 29er tire on the Hunqua
Esteban
San Diego, Calif

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[John]

Check out the Pass & Stow racks, both the porteur and the new 3 rail rack. 
I own both. 

You can find photos of the new 3 rail rack the P Flickr gallery. Matt 
Feeney does excellent work and his racks come in different sizes to fit 
your Hunq.

http://passstow.com/home


John

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 1:43:42 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and 
> I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. 
> I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the 
> newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
> attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
>
> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As far as height above tire, check out the product shot they sent to 
Bicycle Retailer:









My install is closer than that! (For the record, mine is 2.5" off top of 
fender at high point, or about 3" from top of tire.

http://www.bicycleretailer.com/product-tech/2015/10/19/surly-announces-new-front-racks-and-touring-tire-biketoberfest#.V3miThKfgug

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
> The Surly 24-Pack rack won't work on the Hunq.  I purchased one and tried 
> it.  To make it work, the rack ends up sitting about 4 inches above the top 
> of the tire and the load sits way to high.  Biggest problem is mid-fork 
> eyelets sit to high on the Hunq fork.
>
> Keith
>
>

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[RBW] HIgh Line Canal on a beautiful Sunday

[Jon in central Colorado]

Early Sunday morning ride.
Hope the pictures load.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskDAD6QH

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not sure how a Clem compares with a Hunq in terms of fork braze-ons for 
racks, but I have a Surly 8 pack running fine, though no doubt a bit higher 
than ideal. Also lots of bolts to check. And a bit fiddly to install, but 
that's not that unusual in rackworld, is it?...
















On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 5:55:53 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Have you read the Surly install pdf for it ?  
> http://surlybikes.com//uploads/downloads/24_8_Pack_Rack_Instructions_vf.pdf
>
> It specifically states : 
>
> *This rack is not recommended for use with a fork that has a single 
> mounting point in the fork crown.*I'm not sure what they mean by this as 
> this rack is on their list as working with the LHT fork which as one mount 
> point in the crown side. Maybe they mean the mount on the Riv being 
> vertical as opposed to horizontal on the Surly forks. A call to Surly may 
> be helpful. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 4:43:42 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, 
>> and I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier 
>> loads. I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, 
>> and the newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the 
>> Surly rack attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
>>
>> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Hunq porteur options?

[Jeff Lesperance]

FWIW I have the 8-pack rack installed on my Surly Troll and it sits about 4
inches above the tire. The Troll certainly has different geometry than a
Hunq, though it doesn't particularly like a lot of weight loaded on the
8-pack rack sitting that high.

On Sunday, July 3, 2016, Keith Muller  wrote:

> Jay,
>
> The Surly 24-Pack rack won't work on the Hunq.  I purchased one and tried
> it.  To make it work, the rack ends up sitting about 4 inches above the top
> of the tire and the load sits way to high.  Biggest problem is mid-fork
> eyelets sit to high on the Hunq fork.
>
> Keith
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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Jon in central Colorado]

How about this:

http://passstow.com/



On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 2:43:42 PM UTC-6, Jay Lonner wrote:

> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and 
> I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. 
> I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the 
> newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
> attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
>
> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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[RBW] Hunq porteur options?

[Keith Muller]

Jay,

The Surly 24-Pack rack won't work on the Hunq.  I purchased one and tried it.  
To make it work, the rack ends up sitting about 4 inches above the top of the 
tire and the load sits way to high.  Biggest problem is mid-fork eyelets sit to 
high on the Hunq fork.

Keith

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[RBW] Re: PSA 61cm atlantis frameset on ebay

[Matt B.]

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 5:52:41 PM UTC-4, NGross wrote:
>
> Any ideas on to what PBH this would be good for? I'm at 91.5, thinking 
> this might be too small.
>
>
Your best bet would be a 64cm, which do come up for sale now and then.

 

> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 6:41:28 AM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Toyo-Built-61cm-Rivendell-Atlantis-2-Touring-Frame-set-/112044859069?nav=SEARCH
>>
>> Sky in new west
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Garth]

Have you read the Surly install pdf for it ?  
http://surlybikes.com//uploads/downloads/24_8_Pack_Rack_Instructions_vf.pdf

It specifically states : 

*This rack is not recommended for use with a fork that has a single 
mounting point in the fork crown.*I'm not sure what they mean by this as 
this rack is on their list as working with the LHT fork which as one mount 
point in the crown side. Maybe they mean the mount on the Riv being 
vertical as opposed to horizontal on the Surly forks. A call to Surly may 
be helpful. 



On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 4:43:42 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and 
> I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. 
> I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the 
> newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
> attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
>
> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA 61cm atlantis frameset on ebay

[NGross]

Any ideas on to what PBH this would be good for? I'm at 91.5, thinking this 
might be too small.

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 6:41:28 AM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Toyo-Built-61cm-Rivendell-Atlantis-2-Touring-Frame-set-/112044859069?nav=SEARCH
>
> Sky in new west
>

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[RBW] Re: Is there a trick to reassembling center-pull brake calipers?

[GAJett]

>From the diagram you attached these look like near straight-up copies of 
the Weinmann centerpulls.  

* Assemble the brake arms loosely on the bridge, springs included, with the 
arms over-extended.  The cross-arms should be *below* the hooks an the 
bridge.
 If there is a tab near the center-line of one arm, and a slot on the 
other, make sure they are engaged.  These cannot be seen on the diagrams. 
* Place the springs in their proper positions against the hooks on the arms 
and the bridge.
* Work the arms, together, back into their proper alignment. You will need 
to "force" the arms up and over the "hooks".
* Once properly aligned tighten the pivot bolts to spec and your done.  You 
will need to hold the arms "closed" while you tighten.
  You may want to tighten from side to side to tighten slowly and check 
the alignment remains correct. 

The trick is to leave the arms loose enough so you can clear the hooks.  
The lower portion of the brake arms give you a huge mechanical advantage 
over trying to force the springs alone over the hooks.

I've torn those down many times and reassembled without problems, once I 
learned this trick.  If this doesn't work, then the only issue remaining 
would be trying to install the springs incorrectly.  Make sure they are in 
the right orientation?  Take a look at the brake you haven't disassembled 
for additional guidance.
gajett

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 10:04:05 PM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
> I have some older Shimano Tourney center-pulls that I'm going to try 
> on my Ram.  I disassembled one of the brakes to clean it up a bit, and 
> now I simply cannot get it back together.  The problem is trying to 
> get both springs up under the hooks on the brake bridge. 
>
> Here are the brakes: 
>
> http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=6928_imageViewsIndex=1 
>
> Anyone had to reassemble one of these?  Have any suggestions? 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Mark 
>

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[RBW] FS Merlin Titanium Bike - Asking $1,750 OBO

[James Valiensi]

Hi,




I know this is way off topic. But I'm a long time Rivendell rider and also 
love other bikes too. So maybe somebody is interested or has a friend that 
may be. 

47cm Center of BB to top of seat post x 55cm top tube. Dimensions are 
approximate (I measured w/ a metric tape measure) I think this was called a 
medium by Merlin. This bike would typically fit someone between 5'-6" and 
5'-8".

The original fork was replaced with a Columbus carbon fiber unit. The Chris 
King headset and spacers were add at the same time. The stem is an 10cm 
ExtraLight. These parts are like new and maybe have one or two short rides. 
The drive train is a mix of Campy Record and Athena 11sp. Athena Crank set 
and shifters, Record Derailleurs and a Chorus cassette (12-27). The brakes 
are Ciamillo's Zero G's. The wheels are Rolf's Vigor RS. Tires a Gravel 
Kings. Saddle is a Flite and the Seat Post is a Woodman. The bars are Zipp 
aluminum. The pedals are Dura Ace aluminum and the wheel skewers are light 
weigh gold anodized (KMC?)

The seat post is max'd out at 28" from BB to saddle. If yo need more, 
you'll need another post of bigger frame. 
The bike is pretty light. The build kit is much better than what it came 
with.
There is nothing wrong with the bicycle and the frame and parts are not 
damaged, but there may be a few cosmetic scratches on the shifters and 
derailleurs. It all works. 

My 70+ year old dad road it for a few years then gave it to me. I rebuilt 
it. I didn't like the Shimano it had and I figured it would be good to put 
a new carbon fork on it for safety. I took off the ugly stickers and 
cleaned the frame up.
I'm in Los Angeles - local pick up would be best, but I'll ship too.

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[RBW] Hunq porteur options?

[Jay Lonner]

I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and 
I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. 
I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the 
newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.

Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

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[RBW] Re: Ohio to Erie Trail trip

[Deacon Patrick]

Sweet! Thanks for the great photos!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 7:53:21 PM UTC-6, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> After experiencing many of the Mid-Atlantic rail trails and towpaths, I 
> took the Sam touring bike for a 365-mile, 5-day self-supported trip 
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[RBW] Re: Is there a trick to reassembling center-pull brake calipers?

[Will]

Scare up a small metal tube (look at this link for a visual: 
http://www.hobbylinc.com/hobby-and-craft-metal-tubing). 

The tube will manage the spring and give you leverage with control. Works 
better than pliers or other "grabbers". Local hardware should have 
something close. 

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 12:04:05 AM UTC-5, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
> I have some older Shimano Tourney center-pulls that I'm going to try 
> on my Ram.  I disassembled one of the brakes to clean it up a bit, and 
> now I simply cannot get it back together.  The problem is trying to 
> get both springs up under the hooks on the brake bridge. 
>
> Here are the brakes: 
>
> http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=6928_imageViewsIndex=1 
>
> Anyone had to reassemble one of these?  Have any suggestions? 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Mark 
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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Eric Norris]

I think it would fit her perfectly.

–Eric N


> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:39 AM, René Sterental  wrote:
> 
> How about a 5'6" woman?
> 
>> On Sunday, July 3, 2016, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> I'm 6', and I could ride it, but it would fit a smaller rider better.
>> 
>> Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:10 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How tall a rider would fit this bike? I cannot figure it out from your size 
>>> description.
>>> 
>>> René 
>>> 
 On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Eric Norris  wrote:
 In case anybody on this list is looking for a near-mint condition English 
 Raleigh from the 1970s:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/272294740160? 
 
 I’ll give any list member a discount on shipping and a break from the Buy 
 It Now price.
 
 --Eric Norris
 campyonly...@me.com
 www.campyonly.com
 campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 
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[RBW] Is there a trick to reassembling center-pull brake calipers?

[LBleriot]

Yeah.  Don't take them apart. I bolted the main arch to the fork and loosely 
assembled the arms working one at a time. Once you get everything loosely 
(barely) in place, tighten the pivot bolts down. 

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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Joe Bernard]

My guess is a 5'-6" woman could hop right on that without even adjusting the 
seat. I'm an inch-taller dude and I would drive to Eric's house and snap that 
up today if I hadn't just blown all my bike money for the year. Buy it!

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Re: [RBW] Ohio to Erie Trail trip

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric, do try it again. I think they are slowly getting those sections linked 
better. For instance, there is now a brand new beautiful trail - the Alum Creek 
Trail - through Columbus. (We were eventually forced up onto unfriendly roads 
by a flood that came through a couple days prior). 


Though the Kokosing Trail was our overall favorite, the Ohio & Erie Towpath 
Park between Cleveland and Peninsula is a gem.


Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA



-Original Message-
From: Eric Daume 
To: rbw-owners-bunch 
Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2016 5:51 am
Subject: Re: [RBW] Ohio to Erie Trail trip



You fellas did better than me and my friend, we tried it back in 2014 but had 
to bail out partway. Still a fun trip! I want to tackle it again and hit that 
northern potion we missed.


http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/09/ohio-to-erie-day-1.html#uds-search-results



Eric
Dublin, OH



On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:53 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

After experiencing many of the Mid-Atlantic rail trails and towpaths, I took 
the Sam touring bike for a 365-mile, 5-day self-supported trip from the top to 
the bottom of Ohio using the Ohio to Erie Trail, which links 16 trails of all 
types and surfaces linked with urban and rural road sections (including Amish 
country) through 15 counties and 41 municipalities. Temps ranged from the 
high-60's to around 100 degrees! Challenging, but I had the great pathfinding 
skills of friend, Dan WIdner, who did most of the planning and mapping. This 
was a great way to see the midwest! What a great resource for that state! 


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157669855129132


Paul Germain

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Re: [RBW] Ohio to Erie Trail trip

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Erl. North to south, actually, because of logistics. We wanted to rent a 
van for the return and the Cincinnati airport worked out best for that because 
of the location of the Cleveland airport - we actually left our vehicle (with 
permission) at a secure parking area at one of the Cuyahoga Nat'l Towpath Park 
and rode from there (just below Cleveland) to Cincinnati. There, we were able 
to hop on an express bus in downtown Cincy to the airport rental, which had a 
good selection of vans and was open longer hours and every day, just in case we 
arrived late.


It worked out well. I don't know if there is an advantage to riding the other 
way - South to North - but have some friends who will be doing it that way in 
late July. They will not be camping, but motels, which is obviously more 
expensive. Also, they are taking 7 days, which would allow for more sightseeing.


While primitive camping is available along the way, it's not particularly well 
marked and generally have no water or showers, etc. So, we planned one motel 
night for creature comforts and to wash clothes.

Do lots of homework! While the trail & connector roads are generally marked, 
and the maps are a help, they come with many detours, changes and even one 
completely new trail through Columbus. I don't have a GPS, but Dan's work on 
that was essential to us not getting lost and doing some improvisation when we 
hit flooding from that big storm that hit WVa so hard.


Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA



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To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sat, Jul 2, 2016 11:24 pm
Subject: [RBW] Ohio to Erie Trail trip

Paul,
Great photos.  It appears you rode south to north; would you recommend that? 
Was there a particular reason?  It appears from the trail website, that camping 
options are plentiful and frequent.  I have added this tour to my short list 
for next summer.  Any advice, tips, warnings you could offer would be 
appreciated.
Many thanks,
Erl 

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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[René Sterental]

How about a 5'6" woman?

On Sunday, July 3, 2016, Eric Norris  wrote:

> I'm 6', and I could ride it, but it would fit a smaller rider better.
>
> Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:10 PM, René Sterental  > wrote:
>
> How tall a rider would fit this bike? I cannot figure it out from your
> size description.
>
> René
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Eric Norris  > wrote:
>
>> In case anybody on this list is looking for a near-mint condition English
>> Raleigh from the 1970s:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/272294740160?
>>
>> I’ll give any list member a discount on shipping and a break from the Buy
>> It Now price.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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[RBW] Re: Ohio to Erie Trail trip

[George Schick]

365 miles in 5 days works out to just over 70 miles per day, which is quite 
a bit for self-supported touring.  Along with having to pitch and strike 
your tents, cook your meals, etc. that you wouldn't have had much time for 
any sightseeing.  Good planning to schedule it during some of the longest 
daylight hours of the Summer, though.  Looks like it was a blast!

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 8:53:21 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> After experiencing many of the Mid-Atlantic rail trails and towpaths, I 
> took the Sam touring bike for a 365-mile, 5-day self-supported trip from 
> the top to the bottom of Ohio using the *Ohio to Erie Trail*, which links 
> 16 trails of all types and surfaces linked with urban and rural road 
> sections (including Amish country) through 15 counties and 41 
> municipalities. Temps ranged from the high-60's to around 100 degrees! 
> Challenging, but I had the great pathfinding skills of friend, Dan WIdner, 
> who did most of the planning and mapping. This was a great way to see the 
> midwest! What a great resource for that state! 
>
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157669855129132 
> *
>
> Paul Germain
>

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Re: [RBW] Vintage Riv Ancestor FS

[Eric Norris]

I'm 6', and I could ride it, but it would fit a smaller rider better.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:10 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> 
> How tall a rider would fit this bike? I cannot figure it out from your size 
> description.
> 
> René 
> 
>> On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> In case anybody on this list is looking for a near-mint condition English 
>> Raleigh from the 1970s:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/272294740160? 
>> 
>> I’ll give any list member a discount on shipping and a break from the Buy It 
>> Now price.
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Matt B.]

It's probably better to go by reach, stack and STA nowadays if you know what 
you like.  But on more traditional bikes with levelish top tubes like Riv used 
to do, or especially vintage bikes i.e. with no HT extension, it's PBH - 25cm 
for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere near saddle 
height. It does say this somewhere on Riv's website but I can't find it.   

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Re: [RBW] Ohio to Erie Trail trip

[Eric Daume]

You fellas did better than me and my friend, we tried it back in 2014 but
had to bail out partway. Still a fun trip! I want to tackle it again and
hit that northern potion we missed.

http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/09/ohio-to-erie-day-1.html#uds-search-results

Eric
Dublin, OH

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:53 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> After experiencing many of the Mid-Atlantic rail trails and towpaths, I
> took the Sam touring bike for a 365-mile, 5-day self-supported trip from
> the top to the bottom of Ohio using the *Ohio to Erie Trail*, which links
> 16 trails of all types and surfaces linked with urban and rural road
> sections (including Amish country) through 15 counties and 41
> municipalities. Temps ranged from the high-60's to around 100 degrees!
> Challenging, but I had the great pathfinding skills of friend, Dan WIdner,
> who did most of the planning and mapping. This was a great way to see the
> midwest! What a great resource for that state!
>
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157669855129132
> *
>
> Paul Germain
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