Re: [RBW] Re: FS 53cm Roadeo

[Evan E.]

Wow. Beautiful bike at a beautiful price. I'm bumping this thread to keep 
it high on the list.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Shifting parts

[Eric Karnes]

I've picked up some Silver Downtube Shifters from Riv and a 7-speed 
cassette...but to accommodate the larger range, I need a new rear 
derailleur.

So, does anyone have a nice 7, 8, or 9 speed rear derailleur they'd be 
willing to part with that can accommodate at 32T cog? 

Thanks!

Eric


On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 1:49:51 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I built up my current 1x9 Hilsen drivetrain on the extreme cheap from 
> various existing parts. It’s a bit of a mess (severe ghost-shifting on 
> friction on a 9-speed cassette), and I’m ready to upgrade to make it all 
> work better. I like both indexed and friction, so I figure I’d make the 
> decision based on what I could get a good deal on. Sooo, does anyone have 
> any of the following they’d be willing to part with:
>
>
> 1. Riv Silver downtube shifters
>
> 2. 7-speed road cassette (preferably with 30t-ish max ring)
>
> (I'd use these friction with my existing late-eighties era rear derailleur)
>
>
> and/or
>
>
> 3. 9-speed indexed Shimano downtube shifters
>
> 4. 9-speed Shimano road rear derailleur (105 or Ultegra or some such)
>
> (I'd use these indexed with my existing 9-speed ultegra cassette)
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Eric
>

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[RBW] OT: stolen Fuso recoverred in Moreno Valley, CA

[dougP]

The Moreno Valley, CA, PD has recovered an apparently stolen Dave Moulton 
Fuso:

http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/

The PD is making every attempt to locate the owner.  If you know anyone in 
southern California, likely Riverside County, missing this bike, they'd 
love to get it to it's owner.  Awesome job by the Moreno Valley PD.  

dougP

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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[BenG]

The guy from whom I bought my yellow ST also sent a picture of his dusty 1970 
in silver mist, actually in his attic. I tried several times to wake that one 
up, too, but it's still sleeping in the attic in Cleveland.  Ebay has a 
Paramount P15 for $1450 right now, chrome Nervex lugs and silver mist paint, 
gorgeous to me.  Not cheap but so classy. Lighter and prettier than ST, but 
functionally similar.

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[RBW] RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Belopsky]

Where they at? Cannot locate..

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[RBW] Re: what skewer please?

[Jeremy Till]

What hubs were in this old set of MTB wheels?  Anything fancy?  I think 
back in the day a few brands used slightly oversize axles and skewers.  My 
Medici came with a Weyless skewer of a larger diameter in the rear, with a 
Phil Wood hub whose axle had obviously been modified to accept the larger 
skewer.  Unfortunately, it broke on me shortly after doing Eroica with it, 
but a standard skewer still works fine in there.  

Another explanation is that the end of the skewer is slightly bent.  Can 
you get any of the skewer in the SP hub axle?

I use a skewer from a Shimano LX hub in one of my SP hubs.  The other SP 
hub I have is was "sold" (really it was OEM spec) under the "Biologic" name 
and came with a generic external-cam skewer, that was also branded 
"Biologic."  So my thought is that any standard QR will work; the funkiness 
must be with the skewers from your old wheelset, not with the axle on the 
SP hub.  

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 12:12:33 PM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> My SP-PV8 / DT460 wheel finally showed up today !!! after nearly 2 months 
> of waiting on parts/shipping/customs/etc.
> However, unnoticed by me even though it says so on every website selling 
> it, the hub comes with no skewer.
> No problem, says I. I have an old set of MTB wheels sitting in my shed. I 
> can pilfer the Q/R skewer from front. That's 100 mm too so it will surely 
> fit.
> Except that it doesn't. It's too wide.
>
> So, please tell me wise ones. What skewer do I need, where do I get it, 
> and why the !@#$!@#$ doesn't it come with the hub? 
>
> I'm ready to start making my own electricity now please.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle tattoos

[Jon BALER]

Not me,  but this is a good one 
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/how-about-this-for-a-bike-themed-tattoo

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[RBW] what skewer please?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've got a Shimano (Ultegra?) in my SP D8 hub. I think I've also used a Mavic & 
Campy at times. No problems.

Joe in GJT

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[RBW] Re: FS: Complete 58 cm Hunqapillar

[Seneca]

Quick update

It's a 2013 model, green and creme.

Photo of the Hunqapillar:  https://goo.gl/photos/zUTarTYGAb7Wc1QG9

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam 54cm Silver

[dstein]

forgot to mention: Flip flop hub with a 22 tooth fixed gear on the other 
side.

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[RBW] FS: Quickbeam 54cm Silver

[dstein]

I have a 54 silver quickbeam that I haven't ridden it in months which makes 
me think it should go to a better home. I acquired this off a fellow list 
member 2 years ago (local in Bay Area) and have primarily used this as an 
all rounder with a yepp mini up front for toting around my 2 year old who 
is now 3 and weighs to much for the front seat - hence why I'm not really 
using this bike a whole lot anymore, pretty much 90% of the minimal riding 
I did on this is less than .5 mile trips to the park with her on it. She 
uses her balance bike now and I just walk. Took on a 20 mile ride in the 
oakland hills once and a ~30 mile ride with some other list members in west 
marin another time, seriously put less than 200 miles on it in 2 years. 

The list member I got it from got it from another list member, so its 3rd 
gen, maybe 4th. Great condition though. No stickers and 2 small chips on 
the top tube shown in the pictures. I have some stickers I got from 
Rivendell but they're for the orange and green quickbeams, not the silver 
one, so I never put them on, and i kind of like it like it is but thats a 
personal preference.

I have it setup with soma oxford bars (same shape as albatross). 4 geared 
(white industries duo 16x19 in the rear and a sugino 40x32 crank).

I paid $750 for the f/f/h, wheelset, pasela tires, and seat post.  I then 
added brake levers (~$40), nitto technomic stem ($40), sugino double crank 
($146), white industries dos ($125), and soma oxford bars ($59), which add 
$410, or $1160 total (all with little wear). 

$1000 local pickup in the bay area, $1100 shipped. Will consider parting it 
out (at a minimum I want to sell the frame/fork and wheelset). 

Pictures (rack, basket, pedals, and saddle not included, though all 
negotiable):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oGRMtznGF1NKS

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Re: [RBW] FS: blue Ram

[Belopsky]

60cm $1700

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Re: [RBW] FS: blue Ram

[Bruce Baker]

size?? price??

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Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Belopsky]

Yup, Igor here..

Honestly I am not entirely sure - you'd have to look at Mercian geometry or 
contact BJ...most of their frames are NxN - but I saw some old ones on ebay 
with longer top tubes than seat tubes, if that is what you are after - 
There is a Mercian on ebay right now that has a 52 or 53 seat tube and 55 
top tube for instance..

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 11:15:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Is your name Igor? Or am I confusing you with another poster? If so, sorry.
>
> Thanks. What models were these? And to be clear: you've found these to 
> mimic Rivendell road bikes' handling? I mean the signature stability with 
> intuitive or even unthinking perfection in turn-in. 
>
> I want ideas about a frame that has these handling qualities.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Belopsky  > wrote:
>
>> Bob Jackson? Mercian (Enjoy waiting a year for it, though, if ordering 
>> new)
>>
>> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 6:36:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, but I want *more.*
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Garth  wrote:
>>>

   Don't you already have a Rivendell (or 2 or 3 or more)?  Howz that 
 for "cheap" , you don't even have to pay for it to ride one ! 

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Re: [RBW] what skewer please?

[Ray Varella]

I just measured 4 different quick release skewers here, Mavic, Campy and 
Suntour, all are 5mm or slightly smaller (Mavic)
They are all pre circa 2000 skewers. 
Do you have any other skewers you can test fit?

Ray
Vallejo CA

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Re: [RBW] what skewer please?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

The diameter of the skewer is a bit too wide. Looks like just under 6mm. 
The hub is brand new, just arrived, and appears perfect in the light of the 
battery headlight it is supposed to replace.

Jay

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 10:29:25 PM UTC+2, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> Jay,
>   When you say the skewer is too wide, are you referring to the 
> diameter of the skewer being too big around to slide through the hole in 
> the axle or are you saying that even with the nut screwed all the way down 
> on the skewer it won't close tight enough when you clamp down the quick 
> release lever?
>
> If it's the former, is there a burr or some other issue obstructing the 
> hole drilled through the axle?
> Have you looked through it with a bright light?
> Is the axle bent and the sewer can't go all the way through?
>
> If the latter, is it possible the skewer was not threaded far enough to 
> properly cinch down?
> Is it possible you have inadvertently tried a rear quick release instead 
> of a front?
>
> Ray
> Vallejo CA
>
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Re: [RBW] what skewer please?

[Ray Varella]

Jay,
  When you say the skewer is too wide, are you referring to the diameter of 
the skewer being too big around to slide through the hole in the axle or are 
you saying that even with the nut screwed all the way down on the skewer it 
won't close tight enough when you clamp down the quick release lever?

If it's the former, is there a burr or some other issue obstructing the hole 
drilled through the axle?
Have you looked through it with a bright light?
Is the axle bent and the sewer can't go all the way through?

If the latter, is it possible the skewer was not threaded far enough to 
properly cinch down?
Is it possible you have inadvertently tried a rear quick release instead of a 
front?

Ray
Vallejo CA

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Re: [RBW] what skewer please?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

That's exactly what this is. A Bontrager q/r from the front wheel of my 
late 90s Gary Fischer.
Caliper shows around 6 mm / 0.25".

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>
> I've used the standard '90s mtb or road skewers on mine -- 8 speed XT or 9 
> speed LX; or old Campy or Dura Ace. Never encountered a problem. Could 
> something be blocking the axle?
>
> Making your own electricity is fun!
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv  > wrote:
>
>> My SP-PV8 / DT460 wheel finally showed up today !!! after nearly 2 months 
>> of waiting on parts/shipping/customs/etc.
>> However, unnoticed by me even though it says so on every website selling 
>> it, the hub comes with no skewer.
>> No problem, says I. I have an old set of MTB wheels sitting in my shed. I 
>> can pilfer the Q/R skewer from front. That's 100 mm too so it will surely 
>> fit.
>> Except that it doesn't. It's too wide.
>>
>> So, please tell me wise ones. What skewer do I need, where do I get it, 
>> and why the !@#$!@#$ doesn't it come with the hub? 
>>
>> I'm ready to start making my own electricity now please.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jay
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Re: [RBW] what skewer please?

[Patrick Moore]

I've used the standard '90s mtb or road skewers on mine -- 8 speed XT or 9
speed LX; or old Campy or Dura Ace. Never encountered a problem. Could
something be blocking the axle?

Making your own electricity is fun!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv  wrote:

> My SP-PV8 / DT460 wheel finally showed up today !!! after nearly 2 months
> of waiting on parts/shipping/customs/etc.
> However, unnoticed by me even though it says so on every website selling
> it, the hub comes with no skewer.
> No problem, says I. I have an old set of MTB wheels sitting in my shed. I
> can pilfer the Q/R skewer from front. That's 100 mm too so it will surely
> fit.
> Except that it doesn't. It's too wide.
>
> So, please tell me wise ones. What skewer do I need, where do I get it,
> and why the !@#$!@#$ doesn't it come with the hub?
>
> I'm ready to start making my own electricity now please.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
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*The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

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[RBW] what skewer please?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

My SP-PV8 / DT460 wheel finally showed up today !!! after nearly 2 months 
of waiting on parts/shipping/customs/etc.
However, unnoticed by me even though it says so on every website selling 
it, the hub comes with no skewer.
No problem, says I. I have an old set of MTB wheels sitting in my shed. I 
can pilfer the Q/R skewer from front. That's 100 mm too so it will surely 
fit.
Except that it doesn't. It's too wide.

So, please tell me wise ones. What skewer do I need, where do I get it, and 
why the !@#$!@#$ doesn't it come with the hub? 

I'm ready to start making my own electricity now please.

Thanks,
Jay

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Winter Marathon 700c x 35 pair

[Zed Martinez]

Sale pending

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[RBW] FS - Nitto Noodles 46cm Heat Treated - Great Condition

[stoker]

SOLD!

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle tattoos

[Paul Clifton]

I'll play on this one. I got mine as part of a bonus checkpoint at the 9th 
and final running of the Broken Hearts and Bicycle Parts alley cat that my 
local bike co-op used to put on as a fundraiser. It was my first and is, so 
far, my only tattoo. I got it because I knew it would be a reminder of 
bikes and community and a really fun day with friends. That race was called 
9 Lives and High Fives. They had lots of good tattoos over the years: 
http://tinyurl.com/h2v3r29




Tim, I'm sure I've seen some images of Jerry Bears and skeletons on bikes, 
but I can't find them on Google right now. That would make a sweet tatt 
though.

Paul in ATL GA

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 9:00:28 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>
> Because sure, maybe I'd get a head badge on my head, I'd love to see what 
> bicycle related symbolism people have had permanently affixed to themselves.
>
> -Kai Vierstra 
> Brooklyn NY (boasting over 10,000 tattoo shops within unicycling distance)
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Re: [RBW] FS: 3 Nitto Stems, quill - New

[David Hallerman]

All three sold.

Thank you very much!


On 11/20/16 1:02 PM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hi,

Three Nitto 1-inch quill stems for sale. Two are new, and the third is 
barely used, in excellent condition, with mild wear on lower part of 
quill.


*Nitto Technomic, new = $40*
* 100mm, 73° (0° rise)
* Quill length = 220mm
* Clamp size = 25.4mm

*Nitto Dirt Drop, new = $50*
* 100mm, 125° (35° rise)
* Quill length = 180mm
* Clamp size = 26.0mm

*Nitto Dirt Drop, slightly used = $30*
* 80mm, 125° (35° rise)
* Quill length = 150mm
* Clamp size = 26.0mm

Prices include free Priority Mail shipping in CONUS.
Payment good by PayPal, if you can cover the fees.
O'wise, let's figure out some other way to pay.

Group photo below, and questions quickly answered.

Smiles,

Dave, who says his overbuying can be your chance to buy NOS classic parts
Hudson Valley, NY

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/nitto_stems_01.jpg


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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Ray Varella]

I had a Holdsworth which had a nice relaxed riding position, took long reach 
brakes and fit a 35mm tire, 120mm rear spacing and Reynolds 531
Very naive riding bike. 
A Raleigh International, similar to the Holdsworth. 
I looked at a few Raleigh Grand Prixs that ticked the same boxes. 

A good friend had a Motobecane Le Champion, it was very very nice and fit all 
the above criteria but it had a French thread bottom bracket and headset, if 
that matters. 

I've been surprised by the very reasonable asking prices on used Rodeos. 
They seem to represent outstanding value in a Riv roadbike. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Eric Karnes]

those old sports tourers are really beatiful bikes! there's a guy here in 
philly who has a collection of them in different colors. if i hadn't bought 
my used hilsen, this would probably be something i'd be keeping an eye out 
for. unfortunately, all of the later 80's era frames (even touring) seem to 
have really steep seat tube angles (for my taste at least) and i've never 
been able to get quite comfortable on them. but this one seems to have a 
fairly reasonable geometry. and i do get the desire to restore an old 
beater to tip-top condition.

that said, if i already had a few rivs and knew a good frame builder, i'd 
probably just tweak the one that gets the least use and save the money, 
hassle, and (most important for me) floorspace.

eric

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 9:57:36 AM UTC-5, BenG wrote:
>
> Before I could buy a Riv, I followed the recommendation by Sheldon Brown 
> of a 1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer. 120mm rear fits 35mm Paselas sans fender; 
> stock 14-34-or-so freewheel and 54-40 Nervar crank; fillet brazed frame 
> painted cool lemon yellow; Brooks B15; to-die-for twin stick shifters all 
> set me back $300. 1972 spokes were the weak link. Rich built 700C wheels on 
> the stock Maillard hubs (the ones that begat the Phil Rivvy hubs), and I 
> modified the brake arms to reach them.  Geometry is laid back comfortable, 
> but feels fast.  If you can work something out to improve the 45yr old 
> wheels, and like to play with bikes, it's inexpensive fun, making American 
> bikes great again. Maybe somebody will be doing this with my Rivs in 2060.

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle tattoos

[Ian A]

That is brilliant.  Puts me in mind of one of my favorite people who 
described himself as "kind of a mechanised tramp".  Tramp in the UK sense 
of the word.  I've linked to this before, but it's worth posting it 
again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKfNKNxntY0

Ian A/Canada

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 4:11:06 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 10:11:04 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Only if I could incorporate a chain or sprocket with a Skull and Roses, 
>> Steal Your Face or Dancing Bear. I'm still too timid to put it on myself 
>> permanently. But I sure like the idea. All of my kids have ink...
>
>
>
> I thought about various tatoos all my life, but discarded each idea 
> because I'm too fickle and they would be permanent.  
> Then, at 64, I saw a drawing similar to this,
>
>
> 
> and decided "that is me!"
>
> Marc
>

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[RBW] FS: Complete 58 cm Hunqapillar

[Seneca]

Hi all,

I'm posting to see if there is interest in purchasing my 58 cm 
Hunqapillar.  I've loved many things about this bike including upright 
sitting posture and the dyno hub but I've hit the point where I haven't 
been riding the Hunq that much and I'm thinking it might fit in to a good 
home somewhere else.  I've tried to show it the sights, including rides 
through wine country in Napa Valley, maybe you can continue the tradition?  
I spec-ed it to be great as a commuter but also work well for over night 
trips (hence the usb port with the Luxos-U dyno hub).  If that sounds like 
what you want, then this bike might be just for you.

Please email for pics as google groups is giving an error when I attempt to 
include images.

About the bike:  Purchased and assembled by Rivendell Bicycle Works (I have 
the original invoice), we collaboratively spec-ed this bike with a 
Rich-built wheel set that includes a dyno Sun-28 hub and luxos-U dyno 
headlight.  It's the standard build kit with some swapped out items, see 
itemized list below.

The bike is in good condition.  What this means:

1) The frame is in great condition and the bike has received regular 
commuter use.  All components are the same as when purchased, it still has 
the original brake pads even!
2) The paint is prone to accumulating little blemishes and there are a 
number of little scratches and flecks of missing paint on this frame.
3) One of the two welds that attach the kickstand plate broke.  It broke as 
I helped my friend with a bike move as I was hauling a trailer of their 
personal items.  It's repairable (by Rivendell or your local welder) but 
would mess up the paint.  Of course, if you don't use a kickstand or don't 
use the double legged kickstand then it wouldn't really matter.

I'm asking $2600+shipping for the complete bike including Brooks saddle and 
front/rear racks.  I would be willing to sell it without the saddle and 
racks for $2350.  It's currently housed in Boulder CO but I will be driving 
to Los Angeles for Christmas and could bring it along for in person 
delivery.  Let me know your interest, I might be willing to part it out if 
someone wanted only the wheels or just the frame.  If you don't think the 
price is fair, I'd be open to hearing an alternative fair price and 
reasoning.

Seneca

Standard Riv build kit except as listed below, feel free to ask about 
components:

Wheel R 700 LX/Atlas 36
Wheel F 700 SON28/Atlas 36
Schwalbe Big Ben wire, RaceGuard Performance line, HS439 - 700c x 50
Shimano CX70 Cantilever Brakes
Nitto Mini-Front Rack 32F
Nitto Big Back Rack - Medium 32R
Wald Wire Basket - Medium
VP Thin Gripster pedals
Brooks B17 - Honey Mens
SKS/ESGE Silver Fenders
Zefal HPX Frame Pump
Hammer Strike Bell, Brass
Luxos-U Dyno Headlight
Dyno Rack Light

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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Kieran J]

What size wheels/tires you hoping to run?

Not sure if it would handle "like a Riv" but maybe something in old Raleigh 
Competition/Professional/International/Super Course family? Many of those 
have 120 OLD.

KJ


On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford 
> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if 
> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what 
> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>
> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear 
> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer 
> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame 
> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>
> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded 
> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on 
> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing 
> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder 
> coated.
>
> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close 
> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my 
> Rivs.
>
> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate this." 
> But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more than I 
> ought to consider at this point.)
>
> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without the 
> derailleur bits?)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in 
> windy ABQ, NM
>
> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with 
> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along 
> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence 
> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that 
> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and 
> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of 
> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70" 
> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention 
> coasting.
>
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> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
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[RBW] FS: Rambouillet, 60cm, blue--pristine w/ upgrades

[KTY]

I'm selling a beautiful, blue Rambouillet in pristine condition with 
numerous upgrades from the original build as well as a new pair of Compass 
Tires. I'm the second owner of this bike, having bought it several years 
ago from a nice guy in Los Angeles who rode it on weekends and kept it in 
great condition, always indoors. I've done the same, and am only parting 
ways because my small NYC apartment is out of space.

The frame itself and components are in remarkably good condition. The paint 
shows only a few very small marks. 

*RAMBOUILLET, 60cm, blue*
*PRICE: $1,700 (plus shipping)*
*Photo*: https://goo.gl/photos/Ur86FFT1jhvtSb9P7

*COMPONENTS*

*Original Riv build: *
Sugino triple
Shimano 105 derailleurs and headset
Mavic MA2 wheels
rear hub Shimano XT
front hub Suntour

*My upgrades: *
VO Grand Cru long reach brakes (the stiffest long reach brakes around -- 
really!)
Compass Barlow Pass extra-light tires (brand new, value of $156)
Tektro TRP levers (gum hoods, holes in levers)
Nitto noodle bars (46cm) with Silver bar end shifters
Nitto S-65 seatpost
New chain and cassette 

*Not included: *accessories, saddle, racks. 

*Optional add-on:*
Nitto Campee front rack w/ low riders: $150 (w/ bike)

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[RBW] FS: 3 Nitto Stems, quill - New

[Daniel Jackson]

Hi Dave,

On mobile so can't reply offlist. I'll take the 100mm Technomic!

Thanks,
Daniel

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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Garth]

   This is quite simple . *wanting wants . *The nature of wanting IS 
wanting.  Since wanting is forever wanting, completely and utterly, it 
cannot be satisfied, not even with itself because it's always wanting.  All 
wanting could possibly be is wanting. 
  
   Satisfaction alone IS satisfied. So much so satisfaction is always, 
completely and utterly satisfied, it cannot want, for in satisfaction there 
could not possibly be any other than satisfaction.  

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[RBW] FS Tubus, Ortlieb, Revelate, Thomson, SRAM

[Bruce Smitham]

What's left for sale of some bike components and touring items. Prices 
don't include shipping (CONUS). 

Tubus Tara Big Apple front rack black in excellent condition $80
Set of Ortlieb panniers city front black in great condition with a few 
scratches $70
New Revelate harness. Mounted but never used $65
New Thomson X2 1 1/8" threadless stem 100mm 73/107 degree 31.8 Black in 
original packaging $70
SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
condition (few scratches) less than 60 miles $120
SRAM GXP bottom bracket fits 68, 73mm bottom bracket shells. Comes with 
spacers, english threaded less than 60 miles $15
SRAM PG 1070 10 speed Cassette 11-36T in great condition with less than 60 
miles $40

Pictures here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskGYwY3o

Thanks, Bruce in San Diego

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[RBW] Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[masmojo]

I  am slightly confused I totally understand wanting a Rivendell and for sure a 
bike that rides like one iffin you can't afford a Riv., But if you already have 
one (or  several), hm . . . . What exactly is the itch you're trying to 
scratch!?
I mean I do understand, in a way it's fun to while away the hours with "what 
if's, but from my experience, we buy Rivendells because Grant has staked out a 
particular niche, that nobody else caters to.
Just to complicate things more you have rather narrow component range in mind. 
Doable? Yes, practical? Not really, but I guess shit could happen!?
I realize this is mostly for fun, mental gymnastics as it were. And since I am 
still not 100% sure what you are trying to accomplish, I will make suggestions 
with the understanding that I could be WAY off base.
I have heard of some older bikes by Dawes(sp?), nothing fancy, but some models 
had longish top tubes, a few others, new bikes, spring to mind for their 
Rivishness, like Kogswell & Rawland, but I know you are looking in history's 
dustbin, so maybe not appropriate? Anywayz good luck with that, I would be 
interested it whatever fruits your labors uncover, if for no other reason the 
to be able visualize exactly what it is you are going on about, because as of 
now I can't quite wrap my mind around it.
Cheers!

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Winter Marathon 700c x 35 pair

[Zed Martinez]

Now that I have the 650b Clem and a pair of Nokian A10s coming from Peter 
White I don't see myself using the old twitchy 700c hybrid as the winter 
ride anymore, and that leaves me with a pair of Schwalbe Winter Marathons 
I'd like to pass on to someone who could use them. 700c x 35mm, used a 
couple months of the year the past two winters, maybe 600-800 miles on them 
tops. Tread is still perfect, though the studs have gone brown. 7 studs 
missing total (3 on one, 4 on the other). One stud is mis-seated and 
probably not long for the tire. I'll need to find a box to ship them in, 
but can probably do $75 for the pair to CONUS, or I'll just do $60 for both 
if anyone is near the Indianapolis area. Pictures on request, no problem, 
and shoot me a private message if you're interested.

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle tattoos

[Kurt Manley]

64, first tattoo, and it's a bike with a hobo sack, AWESOME!!!

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 3:11:06 AM UTC-8, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 10:11:04 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Only if I could incorporate a chain or sprocket with a Skull and Roses, 
>> Steal Your Face or Dancing Bear. I'm still too timid to put it on myself 
>> permanently. But I sure like the idea. All of my kids have ink...
>
>
>
> I thought about various tatoos all my life, but discarded each idea 
> because I'm too fickle and they would be permanent.  
> Then, at 64, I saw a drawing similar to this,
>
>
> 
> and decided "that is me!"
>
> Marc
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[RBW] Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[BenG]

Before I could buy a Riv, I followed the recommendation by Sheldon Brown of a 
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer. 120mm rear fits 35mm Paselas sans fender; stock 
14-34-or-so freewheel and 54-40 Nervar crank; fillet brazed frame painted cool 
lemon yellow; Brooks B15; to-die-for twin stick shifters all set me back $300. 
1972 spokes were the weak link. Rich built 700C wheels on the stock Maillard 
hubs (the ones that begat the Phil Rivvy hubs), and I modified the brake arms 
to reach them.  Geometry is laid back comfortable, but feels fast.  If you can 
work something out to improve the 45yr old wheels, and like to play with bikes, 
it's inexpensive fun, making American bikes great again. Maybe somebody will be 
doing this with my Rivs in 2060.

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[RBW] FS: blue Ram

[KTY]

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bosco Bullmoose bars

[Abcyclehank]

Bob,
Glad you found a pair.  I love the pair I have and am switching them over onto 
my Bombadil.  Let us know how you like yours..

Sincerely,
Ryan

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bosco Bullmoose bars

[Bob B]

Thanks, all. I found a pair! (not Brian's, if you're interested Ryan)

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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD crankarms only

[Garth]

I have read the RD2( rd meaning road-130mm bcd), is cold forged, though 
some just say forged, which is the same case for the XD(which signifies a 
110 bcd , with 74 bcd for the triple).

 Honestly, cold forging does not mean better or worse, the quality/grade of 
the aluminum, the shape and just how it is made is what matters. Frankly, I 
don't think they are very good cranks at all regardless, from my 
experience. I recently purchased a pair of Origin8 110 double crank arms 
and I notice a diference in stiffness compared to the XD they replaced. 
Plus no silly hidden bolts.  The crank bolts have not loosened after first 
tightenening, like the old dàys I remember before the XD when cranks bolts 
stayed cranked.  If anyone is looking for a decent 110 double for not a lot 
of $$ I would recommend those.  They may be marketed as bmx, single speed 
or something but they are just regular 2 ring 110 cranks, use a 107mm 
cartridge bb. 



On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 11:04:16 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:
>
> Really, the RD cranks are of inferior quality? Can anyone else comment on 
> that? I have been looking to RD for my new IGH build, need only a single 
> chainring and not needing a protector ring. Plus, I need a 54mm chainline.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 10:35:26 AM UTC-8, Jack Doran wrote:
>>
>> I love Sugino cranks but man trying to get a run down on what's what from 
>> that company will drive you to drink.
>>
>> As far as I know, the XD2 (also called the XD Pro, I believe, and have 
>> the Sugino crown logo) only come already set up as a double or triple. The 
>> RD usually comes as a single and is less expensive, but I think I've seen 
>> just the arms for sale. I believe the RD cranks are melt forged, which 
>> makes for a slightly lower quality aluminum. This is totally anecdotal, but 
>> I rode an RD for a year as a SS and the spider kept getting slightly out of 
>> true until I just gave up on them and went with something else.
>>
>> The photo on the Outside Outfitters page advertising XD cranks looks like 
>> an RD or Alpina to me, but it's possible they're using an incorrect stock 
>> photo and it's an XD after all since they list the correct BCD's on the 
>> double and triple.*
>>
>> Finally, there is the Mighty Tour, which is available to purchase with 
>> just the arms, but which is Sugino's most expensive offering (not such a 
>> great deal now that the Yen has picked up). I imagine it's because they are 
>> made of 2000 aluminum, which is light and super durable. 
>> https://alexscycle.com/products/sugino-mighty-tour-pcd110-crank-1
>>
>> **A warning about Outside Outfitters. I've tried to purchase products 
>> from them on several different occasions only to be told that the items are 
>> out of stock. The problem is that they charge you at the time of purchase 
>> instead of when they ship it out, and I had to wait nearly two months after 
>> hounding them with phone calls and emails to get my money back.*
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bicycle tattoos

[Marc Irwin]

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 10:11:04 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> Only if I could incorporate a chain or sprocket with a Skull and Roses, 
> Steal Your Face or Dancing Bear. I'm still too timid to put it on myself 
> permanently. But I sure like the idea. All of my kids have ink...



I thought about various tatoos all my life, but discarded each idea because 
I'm too fickle and they would be permanent.  
Then, at 64, I saw a drawing similar to this,


and decided "that is me!"

Marc

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[RBW] Re: Poster post

[MartyG]

Loving all the posters! Keep em coming. M D Smith, that mobile is terrific 
- what's the story with that? I have another one at the frame shop now, and 
one or three others to go. This is inspiring me to get them out of the flat 
file and get them on the wall. 


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