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Re: [RBW] Silver or green Joe?

2017-03-02 Thread Stuart Lovinggood

I, too, have a hard time picturing what the silver would look like as a full 
frame. Especially around the lugs. Could be rad or could be just fine. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread Gossamer

I can confirm that drop bars on a JA is a bad idea. It's why I'm selling 
mine. Riv tried to explain this to me prior to purchase but I thought I'd 
give it a try. Didn't work. They are different bikes and are meant to be 
set up differently. Expensive lesson. ;)

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 8:02:56 AM UTC-6, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Atlantis is more size specific and can use drop bars. I just got an 
> appaloosa, because after using the bosco and albatross bars, I don't think 
> I would use drop bars on this type of bike
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:07:18 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>
>> Just read the latest Blug that goes on about the Appaloosa. Seems to make 
>> the case that the Appaloosa is better for touring in many cases than the 
>> Atlantis, and better for a wider variety of terrain. So why retain the 
>> Atlantis?
>>
>> Reid
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

2017-03-02 Thread Bill M.

I have a sister to your Expedition, an '84 Miyata 1000.  I'm the original 
owner.  AFAIK Miyata built the Expedition's for Spec.  The geo differs just 
a bit, mostly in the steeper ST angle of the Spec.  The actual geo of my 
Miyata is very close to that of an AHH in the same size.  I have not ridden 
the AHH, but I am sure the Miyata is MUCH stiffer.  I was told BITD that 
the DT was 1.2 mm / 1.0 mm / 1.2 mm with the other tubes in proportion. 
 Not 'planing' territory by any means.  It rides a bit like a brick 
unloaded, but gets pleasantly more lively with a rear load.  

Bill
Stockton, CA

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>
> Greetings.
> I'm in the process of building up a 1983 Specialized Expedition (which is 
> a really lovely bike).  From a distance, the frame looks to have more or 
> less the same geometry as the AHH or, possibly, the Atlantis.  Does anyone 
> have experience with the vintage Expeditions such that he or she could 
> compare its ride to one of the Rivs? 
> Thanks,
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
>

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[RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

2017-03-02 Thread Bin Chen

Hey Toshi, are you the same guy with the Bombadil? Is that by chance for 
sale? :)

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 9:24:20 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote:
>
> OK folks, I bought this frame a few years ago for $900, but am willing to 
> sell it to a good home for $400.  I went over the frame and found a very 
> slight ding in the downtube.  You can see it in the high res picture right 
> near the decal where the "a" of Rambouillet is.  
>
> I probably bought the bike with the ding in it, and don't think much of 
> it, but dropped the price a bunch because I want the buyer to know what you 
> are getting. 
>
> I built it up as a 650b bicycle and it served me well, but I am getting a 
> custom 650b, so I need to sell the frame or sleep on the street.
>
> I prefer a local sale (SFBay area) so you can see what you are getting.  
> I'd like the sale to be As-is.  If you are willing to take it as is and pay 
> shipping via bikeflights, then I would consider a non-local sale.
>
> Take a look at the pics.  There are going to be the usual nicks of paint 
> and signs of wear in the paint here and there, but overall a beauty and 
> should make someone very happy.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BztvpVpin-eqWEZhc3g5am1SMlk
>
> Toshi in Oakland, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] New RBW newsletter - "New bikes" ?

2017-03-02 Thread James Warren

I interpreted it as Appaloosas arriving in the new colors. Maybe some other 
shipments of current models?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:00 PM, Belopsky  wrote:
> 
> Anyone else catch the "new bikes March 15th" note?
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Re: [RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

2017-03-02 Thread Toshi Takeuchi

Thanks to everyone for the interest in the frame, but it is now sold.

Best regards,
Toshi

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[RBW] New RBW newsletter - "New bikes" ?

2017-03-02 Thread Belopsky

Anyone else catch the "new bikes March 15th" note?

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[RBW] Re: cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

2017-03-02 Thread BSWP

Very much appreciated!

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 4:51:51 PM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool.
>
> Sky in new west
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[RBW] WTB: 51cm Soma San Marcos or 54cm Rambouillet Frameset

2017-03-02 Thread Mike K.

Thanks all. I just bought Toshi's Ram. Can't wait!! It's my first Rivendell. 
I'll be sure to post pictures after it's built. 

Cheers!

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Re: [RBW] Silver or green Joe?

2017-03-02 Thread Joe Bernard

"Yellow Snow sticker"

Don't eat it!

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Re: [RBW] Silver or green Joe?

2017-03-02 Thread James Warren


I think the green Clem is beautiful. I helped my bro in law set up his green 65 
cm. HUGE beauty.

I was guessing the new Appa color would be that.

One could get the mustard Appaloosa, call it the Zappaloosa, and put a Yellow 
Snow sticker on it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Richard about color matching your bikes. I love the old Cheviot 
> green which I think is the new Appa green, but I think it's going to be too 
> similar to your Clem if you plan on keeping that one, too. Btw, I had a green 
> Clem (replaced by blue Joe), and I agree about the color: It's just ok.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Joe Bernard

I don't think Riv could dream of adding shipping labor into the price of frames 
and bikes. Grant has been vocal about trying to keep the prices manageable 
while still actually making money off them since, like, 1994. I feel confident 
that if I pick up a bike in Walnut Creek, I'm not paying a packing cost for 
someone else's Riv. 

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[RBW] Silver or green Joe?

2017-03-02 Thread Joe Bernard

I agree with Richard about color matching your bikes. I love the old Cheviot 
green which I think is the new Appa green, but I think it's going to be too 
similar to your Clem if you plan on keeping that one, too. Btw, I had a green 
Clem (replaced by blue Joe), and I agree about the color: It's just ok.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Andrew Huston

I suppose I took the shipping price too literal compared to another online 
store where I figure I'm paying postage and that's essentially it. Packing is a 
pain no doubt, I thought those costs may be accounted for in item prices to 
some degree as well. I typically use shipbikes.com and have shipped bikes all 
over for around $100, box from local shop is $5-$10, pipe insulation and time. 
I've not personally witnessed their packing but I hope to soon and will 
appreciate the effort. 

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Re: [RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

2017-03-02 Thread Sky Coulter

Hey Eric, 

If you ever wanna try one out, I have a 60cm Bombadil in new west, which, 
by the chart, would be your size.

Sky in new west

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-8, ericf3 wrote:
>
> Thanks, new to me and nice to have the PBH chart as l consider my next 
> move.  Atlantis?  Hunqa?
>
> If l read it right l see a 65 Atlantis, izzat new?
>
> ef
> Vancouver
> 93.5 PBH
>
> On 2 March 2017 at 16:51, Sky Coulter  
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it:
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>>
>> no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool.
>>
>> Sky in new west
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Re: [RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

2017-03-02 Thread Eric Floden

Thanks, new to me and nice to have the PBH chart as l consider my next
move.  Atlantis?  Hunqa?

If l read it right l see a 65 Atlantis, izzat new?

ef
Vancouver
93.5 PBH

On 2 March 2017 at 16:51, Sky Coulter  wrote:

> Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool.
>
> Sky in new west
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[RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

2017-03-02 Thread Richard Rios

Yep i dig it. I'm guessing it's fairly new to as i just noticed it the other 
day. Saddle height suggestion seems to be dropping a bit, I wonder why? Higher 
bars better with lower saddle, thinner pedals? Any way it is  a really nice 
reference point.

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[RBW] Re: Silver or green Joe?

2017-03-02 Thread Richard Rios

Based on my personal experience I say go silver here is why. Somehow I ended up 
with 3 greenish Rivs at one point in time, an atlantis, simpleone, and proto 
hunqa. My wife walks into the garage one day and says my bikes are cute because 
of the ombre color scheme! Cute and ombre not what I want to hear about my 
manly beast bicycles, I cringed !) But seriously Riv seems to do alot of green 
frames. Seems like the silvers and mustards show up a bit less. So if you plan 
on having more than one Riv and don't want em to end up all matchy matchy cute 
ombre style grab a silver or orange or mustard when they come up...

Richard"please don't call me Kermit" Rios

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[RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

2017-03-02 Thread Sky Coulter

Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it:

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry

no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool.

Sky in new west

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[RBW] Re: Silver or green Joe?

2017-03-02 Thread scott

Ryan,
   The Appa would be a 55. I could fit a 58 or 61 Atlantis according to the 
Riv guide. I remember when I first discovered Riv and an Atlantis was 
$1200. That was sooo far out of my reach for a long time. Now I am doing 
okay (public school teacher :)) and have bike priorities. I could have 
pulled the trigger on the demo they had up a couple of weeks ago. My 
amazing wife says I can do whatever I want bikewise, but alas, I'm a hemmer 
and hawer and missed my chance. I'm really in no hurry to buy another bike, 
but I really like the idea of supporting Rivendell and Co in a time of 
seeming uncertainty and that has motivated my thinking on a Joe. Good luck 
on your long awaited 68cm...you tall guys don't have it easy!

Scott

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 9:38:03 PM UTC-6, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> What size do you need?  The butternut is my top favorite but otherwise 
> Silver holds a great spot for me also.  
> My number one suggestion would be to hunt down an Atlantis.  Although Riv 
> is accurate in my opinion that the Joe falls right in the middle of a Hunq 
> and Atlantis.  That does not make it either although many hear that and 
> believe it is the case.  If I can wait 4+ years to land a 68cm Atlantis a 
> normal size should be able to hunt one down also.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Richard Rios

Agreed about Riv's shipping cost. I always cringe a bit when I sell a bike and 
know it's gotta be shipped, it's a fair amount of work. In fact after a few DIY 
bike boxing adventures I don't / wont do it myself any more. I now take it to 
the bike shop who charges 60$. They do a good job or I wouldn't use them but I 
don't think they put in the love Riv does and they use recycled materials. So 
if I think about it like that Riv's shipping is very reasonable. It still bums 
me out to pay it but watcha gonna do? I can't rationalize spending so much on a 
bike and then gettin all cheapskate on shipping...

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[RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

2017-03-02 Thread Chris Birkenmaier

Apologies - meant for this to go to private message

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 6:35:27 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Hi Toshi.  I am very interested in your frame.  I see and accept the 
> ding.  I would be willing to pay Bike Flights plus any packing costs you 
> would incur.  I would work around your time schedule (In other words I 
> wouldn't be breathing down your neck for shipping).  Payment would be 
> immediate if you accept my offer.  As far as a good home, well I am nuts 
> over Riv bikes and own 4.  Please let me know if this is acceptable to you 
> and we can move forward.
> best,
> Chris
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:24:20 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>
>> OK folks, I bought this frame a few years ago for $900, but am willing to 
>> sell it to a good home for $400.  I went over the frame and found a very 
>> slight ding in the downtube.  You can see it in the high res picture right 
>> near the decal where the "a" of Rambouillet is.  
>>
>> I probably bought the bike with the ding in it, and don't think much of 
>> it, but dropped the price a bunch because I want the buyer to know what you 
>> are getting. 
>>
>> I built it up as a 650b bicycle and it served me well, but I am getting a 
>> custom 650b, so I need to sell the frame or sleep on the street.
>>
>> I prefer a local sale (SFBay area) so you can see what you are getting.  
>> I'd like the sale to be As-is.  If you are willing to take it as is and pay 
>> shipping via bikeflights, then I would consider a non-local sale.
>>
>> Take a look at the pics.  There are going to be the usual nicks of paint 
>> and signs of wear in the paint here and there, but overall a beauty and 
>> should make someone very happy.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BztvpVpin-eqWEZhc3g5am1SMlk
>>
>> Toshi in Oakland, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB Nitto 32f front rack

2017-03-02 Thread dstein

I had one, then i sold it, and now i need one again ;). 

I also have an M12 front rack I can trade (or sell separately).

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[RBW] Re: Albatross bar slipping

2017-03-02 Thread CMR

It's marked 25.4, I'm regreasing this weekend and hopefully all is solved!

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[RBW] FS - Selle San Marco Regal Saddle w/Chrome Rivets

2017-03-02 Thread stoker

Bump! Let's do $40 shipped CONUS

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Frank Brose

Correct again. It takes me every bit of 2 hours to pack a bike, in fact I 
don't think I can do it in two hours and I've done it alot, plus 
materials,chasing down a box and varios other things to make it work right. 
Rivs prices are not out of line the least bit IMO.

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:13:01 PM UTC-6, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> they do a really great packing job. i think i read somewhere too pack a 
> bike, it takes them like around 2 hours.
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-5, Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>> Then why can I ship a bike for $100 or less and it costs $170 from Riv? 
>>  Honest question, no snark. 
>
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[RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

2017-03-02 Thread Chris Birkenmaier

Hi Toshi.  I am very interested in your frame.  I see and accept the ding.  
I would be willing to pay Bike Flights plus any packing costs you would 
incur.  I would work around your time schedule (In other words I wouldn't 
be breathing down your neck for shipping).  Payment would be immediate if 
you accept my offer.  As far as a good home, well I am nuts over Riv bikes 
and own 4.  Please let me know if this is acceptable to you and we can move 
forward.
best,
Chris

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:24:20 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:

> OK folks, I bought this frame a few years ago for $900, but am willing to 
> sell it to a good home for $400.  I went over the frame and found a very 
> slight ding in the downtube.  You can see it in the high res picture right 
> near the decal where the "a" of Rambouillet is.  
>
> I probably bought the bike with the ding in it, and don't think much of 
> it, but dropped the price a bunch because I want the buyer to know what you 
> are getting. 
>
> I built it up as a 650b bicycle and it served me well, but I am getting a 
> custom 650b, so I need to sell the frame or sleep on the street.
>
> I prefer a local sale (SFBay area) so you can see what you are getting.  
> I'd like the sale to be As-is.  If you are willing to take it as is and pay 
> shipping via bikeflights, then I would consider a non-local sale.
>
> Take a look at the pics.  There are going to be the usual nicks of paint 
> and signs of wear in the paint here and there, but overall a beauty and 
> should make someone very happy.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BztvpVpin-eqWEZhc3g5am1SMlk
>
> Toshi in Oakland, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Bruce

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Thanks for the info.   I still use paselas but will give the 
gravel kings a try next time new rubber is needed.  I love Pari Motos but the 
tread life is only about 1,900 miles for me. 

On Thursday, March 2, 2017, 3:45 PM, Tim Gavin  
wrote:

Panaracer Gravel Kings are a good choice.  They're similar to the lightweight 
Pari-Moto tires, but with an added puncture protection layer.  On the 
suppleness scale (rock hard tires are 0, handmade tubulars are 10), I'd give 
them a 7 to 7.5.  A good compromise tire.  They've supplanted the old Panaracer 
Pasela in that duty for my personal recommendation.
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

Jon, you're brilliant and you're RIGHT. The tape had shifted, and the room 
sliced the tube. I also took your suggestion of Panaracer tires and ran with it.
I ordered new tires - Panaracer Gravel something or other - the shop owner and 
I sat and talked about what I wanted in a tire and what these tires had to 
offer. I said I'd gladly pay for the new tires but he says he's going to cut me 
a deal. I think these tires will be a good choice, but it even if not, I'm 
sticking with them. I'm not buying any more tires for another five years! So 
there!
So ends this ridiculously long thread!
PS While I was waiting, another woman walked in;  young, single, exuberant and 
in a fun career as a Saucony rep. She had just scored a melon and blue Electra 
off Craigslist for a fraction of the price. Basket, sweepy bars, all the 
romantic things. The seller had it on a bike rack and had been hit by another 
car. The bike had some bend over the chain guard and she was so hoping it could 
be fixed so she could ride around California in style. She hasn't had a bike in 
years. They fixed it right up, free of charge and I asked her if she wanted to 
take a victory lap in the parking lot. She did, so I took all the flattering 
photos I could for her and it was a whole lot of girliness right there. The men 
didn't protest. 
I have renewed love for the bike shop now.
PPS I really liked that young woman right off the bat because she fussed over 
my bike. A quick way to my heart.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

Learn to fix flats -- it's not hard, and if you carry a spare tube or 2 and fix 
the puncture proper at home, you can be back on the road in a few minutes -- 
usually faster than walking to your destination. The longest part is pumping 
the tire, and even this can be minimized and the effort reduced by using a 
really good pump. My favorites are the old Zefal HPx or the much newer Lezyne 
that converts into a little footpump (far better IME than the Topeak 
equivalent).
"New tires" -- you  can get thorn proof (so called) tubes that are about 3-4 mm 
thick on the bottom and tremendously heavy, and fill those with sealant. I 
personally hate them and belted tires and simply learned to fix flats quickly, 
but this combination does work against at least narrow penetrants. 
Good luck.
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear flat. 
All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window. I will be 
swinging by there today asking for new tires.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS  wrote:
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> I better inspect my Synergies now!
>
> Regards,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Joe Bernard

Correct, us private sellers aren't charging labor for packing a bike 'cause 
we're not trying to run a business and pay people. 

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[RBW] FS: Schmidt Edelux II silver polish light w/ custom fender mount - $150 shipped

2017-03-02 Thread Belopsky

Album of photos. https://flic.kr/s/aHskSxz6TX



$150 shipped.

This light was mounted, wire has been trimmed. I made a custom mount for it.



I can include some M3 allen screws and an M6 w some washers.

The light has seen 5 miles of outdoors.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Philip Kim

they do a really great packing job. i think i read somewhere too pack a 
bike, it takes them like around 2 hours.

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> Then why can I ship a bike for $100 or less and it costs $170 from Riv? 
>  Honest question, no snark. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Christopher Murray

Rivendell has to buy the box and other supplies and pay a person a decent wage 
to do the work. They probably also insure the bike which adds considerable 
cost. I just shipped a bike with BikeFlights from ND to VA and the cost with 
insurance was $124. That was using the box from Riv and all their shipping 
materials.  I am sure Rivs price is fair and honest. 

Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Andrew Huston

Then why can I ship a bike for $100 or less and it costs $170 from Riv?  Honest 
question, no snark. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Tim Gavin

Panaracer Gravel Kings are a good choice.  They're similar to the
lightweight Pari-Moto tires, but with an added puncture protection layer.
On the suppleness scale (rock hard tires are 0, handmade tubulars are 10),
I'd give them a 7 to 7.5.
A good compromise tire.  They've supplanted the old Panaracer Pasela in
that duty for my personal recommendation.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Jon, you're brilliant and you're RIGHT. The tape had shifted, and the room
> sliced the tube. I also took your suggestion of Panaracer tires and ran
> with it.
>
> I ordered new tires - Panaracer Gravel something or other - the shop owner
> and I sat and talked about what I wanted in a tire and what these tires had
> to offer. I said I'd gladly pay for the new tires but he says he's going to
> cut me a deal. I think these tires will be a good choice, but it even if
> not, I'm sticking with them. I'm not buying any more tires for another five
> years! So there!
>
> So ends this ridiculously long thread!
>
> PS While I was waiting, another woman walked in;  young, single, exuberant
> and in a fun career as a Saucony rep. She had just scored a melon and blue
> Electra off Craigslist for a fraction of the price. Basket, sweepy bars,
> all the romantic things. The seller had it on a bike rack and had been hit
> by another car. The bike had some bend over the chain guard and she was so
> hoping it could be fixed so she could ride around California in style. She
> hasn't had a bike in years. They fixed it right up, free of charge and I
> asked her if she wanted to take a victory lap in the parking lot. She did,
> so I took all the flattering photos I could for her and it was a whole lot
> of girliness right there. The men didn't protest.
>
> I have renewed love for the bike shop now.
>
> PPS I really liked that young woman right off the bat because she fussed
> over my bike. A quick way to my heart.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> Learn to fix flats -- it's not hard, and if you carry a spare tube or 2
> and fix the puncture proper at home, you can be back on the road in a few
> minutes -- usually faster than walking to your destination. The longest
> part is pumping the tire, and even this can be minimized and the effort
> reduced by using a really good pump. My favorites are the old Zefal HPx or
> the much newer Lezyne that converts into a little footpump (far better IME
> than the Topeak equivalent).
>
> "New tires" -- you * can* get thorn proof (so called) tubes that are
> about 3-4 mm thick on the bottom and tremendously heavy, and fill those
> with sealant. I personally hate them and belted tires and simply learned to
> fix flats quickly, but this combination does work against at least narrow
> penetrants.
>
> Good luck.
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear
>> flat. All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window.
>> I will be swinging by there today asking for new tires.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS  wrote:
>> >
>> > I better inspect my Synergies now!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Richard
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Bernie Burton

Rivendell undoubtably also has a Bikefights corporate account

Bernie Burton

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:14 PM, 'Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:
>>
>> Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company than having a corporate
>> account?
>>
>
> I suspect that discount associated with a corporate account is tied to the
> amount of volume that business does with the carrier.  The more volume, the
> higher the discount.  Suspect that amount of frames and bikes shipped by
> bikeflights far exceeds that of Riv.  Riv probably uses their own corporate
> account for the small things, but bikeflights for frames and complete bikes
> due to the higher discount.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Leah Peterson

Jon, you're brilliant and you're RIGHT. The tape had shifted, and the room 
sliced the tube. I also took your suggestion of Panaracer tires and ran with it.

I ordered new tires - Panaracer Gravel something or other - the shop owner and 
I sat and talked about what I wanted in a tire and what these tires had to 
offer. I said I'd gladly pay for the new tires but he says he's going to cut me 
a deal. I think these tires will be a good choice, but it even if not, I'm 
sticking with them. I'm not buying any more tires for another five years! So 
there!

So ends this ridiculously long thread!

PS While I was waiting, another woman walked in;  young, single, exuberant and 
in a fun career as a Saucony rep. She had just scored a melon and blue Electra 
off Craigslist for a fraction of the price. Basket, sweepy bars, all the 
romantic things. The seller had it on a bike rack and had been hit by another 
car. The bike had some bend over the chain guard and she was so hoping it could 
be fixed so she could ride around California in style. She hasn't had a bike in 
years. They fixed it right up, free of charge and I asked her if she wanted to 
take a victory lap in the parking lot. She did, so I took all the flattering 
photos I could for her and it was a whole lot of girliness right there. The men 
didn't protest. 

I have renewed love for the bike shop now.

PPS I really liked that young woman right off the bat because she fussed over 
my bike. A quick way to my heart.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Learn to fix flats -- it's not hard, and if you carry a spare tube or 2 and 
> fix the puncture proper at home, you can be back on the road in a few minutes 
> -- usually faster than walking to your destination. The longest part is 
> pumping the tire, and even this can be minimized and the effort reduced by 
> using a really good pump. My favorites are the old Zefal HPx or the much 
> newer Lezyne that converts into a little footpump (far better IME than the 
> Topeak equivalent).
> 
> "New tires" -- you  can get thorn proof (so called) tubes that are about 3-4 
> mm thick on the bottom and tremendously heavy, and fill those with sealant. I 
> personally hate them and belted tires and simply learned to fix flats 
> quickly, but this combination does work against at least narrow penetrants. 
> 
> Good luck.
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>> As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear 
>> flat. All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window. I 
>> will be swinging by there today asking for new tires.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS  wrote:
>> >
>> > I better inspect my Synergies now!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Richard
>> >
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread 'Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:
>
> Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company than having a corporate 
> account? 
>

I suspect that discount associated with a corporate account is tied to the 
amount of volume that business does with the carrier.  The more volume, the 
higher the discount.  Suspect that amount of frames and bikes shipped by 
bikeflights far exceeds that of Riv.  Riv probably uses their own corporate 
account for the small things, but bikeflights for frames and complete bikes 
due to the higher discount.   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

2017-03-02 Thread Steve Palincsar



On 03/02/2017 12:17 PM, Wayne Naha wrote:
No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all.  The Grand Bois 
120mm cassette you found is amazing.  I had no idea that such a thing 
existed.  It really is ideal.  I really wasn't relishing the use of a 
freewheel, mainly because they don't seem to be made anymore.  And 
with the Grand Bois I can get an extra cog tucked in back there, which 
is nice.  The rear spacing of this bike has been the sticky wicket in 
the whole 700C conversion project.  It made no sense to me to go to 
all the effort and expense of ditching the 27" wheel, only to keep the 
freewheel.  Thanks for the info!


https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-120mm-cassette-hub/ 
for the hub (currently 32 hole out of stock, 36 hole in stock)  and
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-6-speed-cassette/ 
for the cassette.  "These custom cassettes from Grand Bois are made for 
use with the 120mm spaced Cassette Hubs, allowing you to breathe new 
life into an older frame. The cassettes uses Shimano 7-speed cogs and 
spacers, so 7/8-speed chains must be used. Ratio: 14-16-18-21-24-28"  
Mate that with a 7 or 8 speed index shifter and a recent Shimano rear 
derailleur and you've got a mostly modern bike.


Couple that cassette up with the proper choice of chain rings, and you 
can really make a pretty nice drive train.  Here's a configuration that 
would tick all of my boxes:


50/34/24 700x32 6 spd 14-28

96.463.646.3
84.455.740.5
75.049.536.0
64.342.430.9
56.337.127.0
48.231.823.1

And also note that thanks to the narrow hub and the flexible modern 
chain you could use all six of the sprockets with the big ring and have 
no cross-chain angularity issues.  Given my basic parameters (high <= 
100 gear inches, low on the middle ring ~ 32", low on the granny ~ 
20-23") this is right there.  No monster cliffs to fall off or struggle 
to climb up, no zigzagging back and forth trying to eke out reasonable 
spacing and no major compromises on range either.  Not shabby at all.  
Actually, this is the first time I've calculated a 34/50 that made any 
sense to me!





On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel? Grand Bois makes
a nice new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or six speed
Hyperglide cassette (made with 7 spd sprockets and spacers).


On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:

Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, II was not
expecting this level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm hub!
 But I've got time on my hands to look.  Thanks to all who have
responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois cassette hub is certainly an
interesting option.

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell
GA wrote:

Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have surgery!
Having had 3 ankle surgeries over the years.

Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash to
get something like that built these days. 700 conversion is
certainly worth going to. Modern brakes have much less flex.

As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track (Mavic
Open Pro, CR 18 for instance) would be preferred. I like
Shimano hubs because they are easy to rebuild and service
from that period. Downside is finding a 120 freewheel hub
built to a modern machined brake track rim. I'm sure there
are plenty of other excellent opinions.

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne Naha
wrote:

This past Monday a very helpful and friendly orthopedic
surgeon kindly harvested a tendon from somewhere inside
my right foot and used it to replace a long missing
ligament that used to stabilize my ankle when walking.
 He also scraped out a good deal of osteo-arthritic
buildup that had been limiting the range of motion of my
foot.  Recovery has been a bit painful so far.  There can
be no weight on the joint for three weeks.  So here I am,
reclining on the couch, a little loopy from pain meds,
but so far not watching daytime TV.  To pass the time,
I'm kind of daydreaming about doing a 700C conversion to
my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport.  It's a nifty little number
with double butted 531 frame, fork, and stays.  Years ago
I installed a Moustache h'bar and Technomic Deluxe stem,
also a new cartridge bottom bracket and a Sugino XD2
triple crank.  Now for the wheels.  I'd like to be able
to take advantage of the huge variety of 700C tires.  And
going to 700C will give me more clearance for a wider
tire, something I definitely want

[RBW] Re: FS: fillet-brazed 650B triple triangle F/F/HS/Fenders/Racks

2017-03-02 Thread sameness

Thank God. I'm one bike away from a fire department citation.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross bar slipping

2017-03-02 Thread masmojo

Sorry,  my bad I thought you were have problems with the threadless stem.
Yes a bit more torque on the Technomic.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross bar slipping

2017-03-02 Thread masmojo

I am wondering if you are using the proper stem? Is there a gap between the 
back of the front piece & the front of the mating surface of the stem? If not 
you are probably using the wrong size stem. 
I had a similar problem on a Technomic stem, but it just needed a bit more 
torque, no problems now.

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[RBW] Re: Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

2017-03-02 Thread Garth






Check out the actual specs from this website 
http://crankbased.blogspot.com/2015/01/1983-specialized-expedition.html.

Just compare them to an Atlantis . I believe the Expedition ran 700c wheels 
for all sizes. My experience with any bike with a high BB compared to my 
Bomba wiith a low one is like night and day.


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>
> Greetings.
> I'm in the process of building up a 1983 Specialized Expedition (which is 
> a really lovely bike).  From a distance, the frame looks to have more or 
> less the same geometry as the AHH or, possibly, the Atlantis.  Does anyone 
> have experience with the vintage Expeditions such that he or she could 
> compare its ride to one of the Rivs? 
> Thanks,
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread Christopher Murray

Of course they are redundant but they aren't the same. Look at the number of 
road racing bikes the big bike companies sell. Are they redundant? Yes but each 
is different enough to justify a separate model. The differences between them 
may appeal to one buyer or another. 

What's wrong with a little redundancy?

Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Eric

Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company than having a corporate account? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread Jim Bronson

This is a Rivendell geek-out group having esoteric discussions about model
overlap.

The Atlantis marquee is a known quantity in touring bike circles, IMO.

For that reason it's important to keep it.

$0.02

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:48 AM, masmojo  wrote:

> I've ridden both & they are both great bikes and depending on size & use
> an Appaloosa may be perfect for you. I very nearly bought one, but was
> vasillating back and forth between that & a Hunqapillar. I was getting
> tripped up on the sizing when the Atlantis I bought came available & I
> realized it was exactly what I needed. I am so glad, because I was not even
> considering Atlanti! Now I wonder what I was thinking! Yes, the fact that
> The Atlantis comes in a wide variety of sizes means it will probably never
> go away.
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Belopsky

I'm not surprised. It's really handy to input all the measurements and 
weight, print a label, and schedule a pickup or drop off at the office. 
it's all I use

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> Hello,
>
> I was just peeling the shipping label off the box the Appaloosa came in 
> and it says BikeFlights on it in small print. I was pretty surprised. A 
> good endorsement for those unsure about using this relatively new company. 
> Fedex does the actual shipping.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread masmojo

I've ridden both & they are both great bikes and depending on size & use an 
Appaloosa may be perfect for you. I very nearly bought one, but was vasillating 
back and forth between that & a Hunqapillar. I was getting tripped up on the 
sizing when the Atlantis I bought came available & I realized it was exactly 
what I needed. I am so glad, because I was not even considering Atlanti! Now I 
wonder what I was thinking! Yes, the fact that The Atlantis comes in a wide 
variety of sizes means it will probably never go away.

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[RBW] Re: Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

2017-03-02 Thread Garth







The actual specs will help you, from this website  
http://crankbased.blogspot.com/2015/01/1983-specialized-expeanything "like" 
an Atlantis excdition.html. 

Note the much steeper head and set tube angles and high BB height. It'll 
ride like a Specialized Expedition bike. 






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>
> Greetings.
> I'm in the process of building up a 1983 Specialized Expedition (which is 
> a really lovely bike).  From a distance, the frame looks to have more or 
> less the same geometry as the AHH or, possibly, the Atlantis.  Does anyone 
> have experience with the vintage Expeditions such that he or she could 
> compare its ride to one of the Rivs? 
> Thanks,
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
>

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[RBW] Rivendell uses BikeFlights

2017-03-02 Thread Christopher Murray

Hello,

I was just peeling the shipping label off the box the Appaloosa came in and it 
says BikeFlights on it in small print. I was pretty surprised. A good 
endorsement for those unsure about using this relatively new company. Fedex 
does the actual shipping.

Cheers!
Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Patrick Moore

Learn to fix flats -- it's not hard, and if you carry a spare tube or 2 and
fix the puncture proper at home, you can be back on the road in a few
minutes -- usually faster than walking to your destination. The longest
part is pumping the tire, and even this can be minimized and the effort
reduced by using a really good pump. My favorites are the old Zefal HPx or
the much newer Lezyne that converts into a little footpump (far better IME
than the Topeak equivalent).

"New tires" -- you * can* get thorn proof (so called) tubes that are about
3-4 mm thick on the bottom and tremendously heavy, and fill those with
sealant. I personally hate them and belted tires and simply learned to fix
flats quickly, but this combination does work against at least narrow
penetrants.

Good luck.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear
> flat. All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window.
> I will be swinging by there today asking for new tires.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS  wrote:
> >
> > I better inspect my Synergies now!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Richard
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Re: [RBW] Re: When is a bike old?

2017-03-02 Thread Patrick Moore

I wish the big makers had focused on hub gears instead of cramming 12 onto
the rear hub and using batteries to shift. Man, what a good selection we
might have by now! And prices might be much lower if good hub gears were
sold over a much large rmarket.

Fat chance, I realize, since really the derailleur system is so much more
flexible.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Nick Payne  wrote:

>
>
> Well, my touring bike has had a Rohloff hub on it for about 15 years.
> The Rohloff is pretty much a black box - all the smarts and indexing are
> inside the hub, the twist shifter is merely a low tech device for
> pulling on one of two cables depending on which way you twist it.
>
> I mounted the shifter on drop bars like so:
> http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/bikestuff/rohloff/index.htm. These
> days, there are multiple options for shifting the hub - see for example,
> http://cyclemonkeylab.blogspot.com.au/2016/02/tech-
> talk-shifter-options-for-use-with.html.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

2017-03-02 Thread Wayne Naha

No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all.  The Grand Bois 120mm 
cassette you found is amazing.  I had no idea that such a thing existed. 
 It really is ideal.  I really wasn't relishing the use of a freewheel, 
mainly because they don't seem to be made anymore.  And with the Grand Bois 
I can get an extra cog tucked in back there, which is nice.  The rear 
spacing of this bike has been the sticky wicket in the whole 700C 
conversion project.  It made no sense to me to go to all the effort and 
expense of ditching the 27" wheel, only to keep the freewheel.  Thanks for 
the info!


On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel?  Grand Bois makes a nice 
> new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or six speed Hyperglide cassette 
> (made with 7 spd sprockets and spacers).
>
> On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, II was not expecting this 
> level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm hub!  But I've got time on my 
> hands to look.  Thanks to all who have responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois 
> cassette hub is certainly an interesting option.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA 
> wrote: 
>>
>> Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have surgery! Having had 3 
>> ankle surgeries over the years.  
>>
>> Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash to get something 
>> like that built these days. 700 conversion is certainly worth going to. 
>> Modern brakes have much less flex. 
>>
>> As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track (Mavic Open Pro, CR 
>> 18 for instance) would be preferred. I like Shimano hubs because they are 
>> easy to rebuild and service from that period. Downside is finding a 120 
>> freewheel hub built to a modern machined brake track rim. I'm sure there 
>> are plenty of other excellent opinions.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bill in Roswell, GA
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote: 
>>>
>>> This past Monday a very helpful and friendly orthopedic surgeon kindly 
>>> harvested a tendon from somewhere inside my right foot and used it to 
>>> replace a long missing ligament that used to stabilize my ankle when 
>>> walking.  He also scraped out a good deal of osteo-arthritic buildup that 
>>> had been limiting the range of motion of my foot.  Recovery has been a bit 
>>> painful so far.  There can be no weight on the joint for three weeks.  So 
>>> here I am, reclining on the couch, a little loopy from pain meds, but so 
>>> far not watching daytime TV.  To pass the time, I'm kind of daydreaming 
>>> about doing a 700C conversion to my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport.  It's a nifty 
>>> little number with double butted 531 frame, fork, and stays.  Years ago I 
>>> installed a Moustache h'bar and Technomic Deluxe stem, also a new cartridge 
>>> bottom bracket and a Sugino XD2 triple crank.  Now for the wheels.  I'd 
>>> like to be able to take advantage of the huge variety of 700C tires.  And 
>>> going to 700C will give me more clearance for a wider tire, something I 
>>> definitely want now that I am out in the country with all the washboard 
>>> dirt roads.  So, any suggestions on how to proceed?  I've never done one of 
>>> these conversions.
>>>
>>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: F/S 62cm Proto- Hunqapillar/Bomba

2017-03-02 Thread Kurt Manley

This one's headed up to it's new home in Portland, Or. 

If you see list member Tim riding it around stumptown give him a shout! 
He's a nice guy and I'm stoked to send him this bike!

Thanks for everyone who chimed in and showed interest. 


Kurt

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>
>
> 
> Up for sale is my awesome Riv ProtoVelo. This was a long bike 
> Hunqapillar-ish prototype. It has ProtoVelo decals but a Hunq headbadge. 
> Regardless of what you call it it's a rad on and off road bike with a limo 
> like ride. 
> I've used this bike for everything from grocery shopping to long off road 
> backcountry touring. It has always been awesome. Super stable, descends 
> like no other bike I've ridden. Load it up and hit the road or strip it 
> down and hit some singletrack. It will do it all. I have used and loved 
> this bike for many amazing rides and it has plenty of buseage to prove it. 
> Scratches, scrapes, and an unpainted fork (rattle can clear) highlight the 
> cosmetic issues but there are no dents at all, the bike rides like a dream, 
> perfectly straight, rides no handed perfect and is ready for your next 
> adventure. If you are looking for a cosmetically perfect bike this is not 
> it but if you want somethigng that sill looks great and gets compliments 
> everywhere you go and dont mind some scratches here you go.I listed this a 
> while back but had some second thoughts about selling at the time since I 
> love this bike but you know the drill, too many bikes, not enough 
> space..
>
> Fits pretty much exactly like a 62cm regular Hunq as far as stand over/tt 
> length/ect, the top tube slopes up a bit more but it still fits the same 
> just less spacers under the top nut. It's just way longer in the 
> chainstays. Definitely for a taller person, I'm just a hair shy of 6'5" and 
> the bike fits me incredibly well. The saddle height shown in the photos is 
> actually a bit higher than I run. 
>
> Build is Pretty standard Riv style but some highlights are
>
> Filet brazed Nitto bulmoose bars (discontinued)
> Brooks B17
> Velocity Hubs to Dyads
> Sugino Triple
> Awesome IRD/Silver friction shifters (I love these!)
> Avid SD& V brakes (these don't match the rest of the build that well but 
> they work amazingly! I would be happy to switch out for a set of cx70 
> cantis I have but you'd need to add you levers and cables.)
> MKS sneaker pedals
> Tires on the bike are pretty much done but I'll include some Big Bens with 
> lot's of life 
> Also will include a 40z Two Fish bottle cage
>
> $1450 plus professional packing and shipping.   
>
> I'm in Oakland, CA if you'd like to check it out
>
> Link to more photos
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0lo3ibv0lbjwxf8/AACvvaafFwjwXMiYF7TBoEQka?dl=0
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kurt
>
>

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[RBW] Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

2017-03-02 Thread Kevin Lindsey

Greetings.
I'm in the process of building up a 1983 Specialized Expedition (which is a 
really lovely bike).  From a distance, the frame looks to have more or less 
the same geometry as the AHH or, possibly, the Atlantis.  Does anyone have 
experience with the vintage Expeditions such that he or she could compare 
its ride to one of the Rivs? 
Thanks,
Kevin Lindsey
Alexandria, VA

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Jon Dukeman

have them check that it wasn't caused by exposed rim that cut the tube  and
not a puncture from a thorne.
Hopefully someone will stop and fix your flat.
Let me know if I can help.
Jon

"FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK "

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear
> flat. All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window.
> I will be swinging by there today asking for new tires.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS  wrote:
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> > I better inspect my Synergies now!
> >
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51cm Soma San Marcos or 54cm Rambouillet Frameset

2017-03-02 Thread sean

I have the old Rambouillet page link here (which has the geometry): 
http://web.archive.org/web/20030302234257/http://www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_rambouilletframes.html

I just saw the FS post for the 54cm. Good price too. Sounds like 
serendipity!

Sean
ATX

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

2017-03-02 Thread Leah Peterson

As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear flat. 
All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window. I will be 
swinging by there today asking for new tires.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

2017-03-02 Thread George Schick

After Steve mentioned that 120mm Gran Bois cassette hub I surfed over to 
Compass to take a look.  It'd be perfect.  Then I took a look at the 6-cog 
cassette they sell for it and it'd be even more perfect.  It has a 14-28 
gear range on it which would be a great match for that Raleigh.  It'd be 
the way I'd go for sure.

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 8:46:04 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel?  Grand Bois makes a nice 
> new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or six speed Hyperglide cassette 
> (made with 7 spd sprockets and spacers).
>
> On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, I was not expecting this 
> level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm hub!  But I've got time on my 
> hands to look.  Thanks to all who have responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois 
> cassette hub is certainly an interesting option.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA 
> wrote: 
>>
>> Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have surgery! Having had 3 
>> ankle surgeries over the years.  
>>
>> Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash to get something 
>> like that built these days. 700 conversion is certainly worth going to. 
>> Modern brakes have much less flex. 
>>
>> As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track (Mavic Open Pro, CR 
>> 18 for instance) would be preferred. I like Shimano hubs because they are 
>> easy to rebuild and service from that period. Downside is finding a 120 
>> freewheel hub built to a modern machined brake track rim. I'm sure there 
>> are plenty of other excellent opinions.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bill in Roswell, GA
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote: 
>>>
>>> This past Monday a very helpful and friendly orthopedic surgeon kindly 
>>> harvested a tendon from somewhere inside my right foot and used it to 
>>> replace a long missing ligament that used to stabilize my ankle when 
>>> walking.  He also scraped out a good deal of osteo-arthritic buildup that 
>>> had been limiting the range of motion of my foot.  Recovery has been a bit 
>>> painful so far.  There can be no weight on the joint for three weeks.  So 
>>> here I am, reclining on the couch, a little loopy from pain meds, but so 
>>> far not watching daytime TV.  To pass the time, I'm kind of daydreaming 
>>> about doing a 700C conversion to my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport.  It's a nifty 
>>> little number with double butted 531 frame, fork, and stays.  Years ago I 
>>> installed a Moustache h'bar and Technomic Deluxe stem, also a new cartridge 
>>> bottom bracket and a Sugino XD2 triple crank.  Now for the wheels.  I'd 
>>> like to be able to take advantage of the huge variety of 700C tires.  And 
>>> going to 700C will give me more clearance for a wider tire, something I 
>>> definitely want now that I am out in the country with all the washboard 
>>> dirt roads.  So, any suggestions on how to proceed?  I've never done one of 
>>> these conversions.
>>>
>>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: fillet-brazed 650B triple triangle F/F/HS/Fenders/Racks

2017-03-02 Thread S. Greco

SOLD, thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

2017-03-02 Thread Steve Palincsar

I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel?  Grand Bois makes a 
nice new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or six speed Hyperglide 
cassette (made with 7 spd sprockets and spacers).



On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:
Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, I was not expecting 
this level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm hub!  But I've got time 
on my hands to look.  Thanks to all who have responded.  That 120mm 
Grand Bois cassette hub is certainly an interesting option.


On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA 
wrote:


Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have surgery! Having
had 3 ankle surgeries over the years.

Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash to get
something like that built these days. 700 conversion is certainly
worth going to. Modern brakes have much less flex.

As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track (Mavic Open
Pro, CR 18 for instance) would be preferred. I like Shimano hubs
because they are easy to rebuild and service from that period.
Downside is finding a 120 freewheel hub built to a modern machined
brake track rim. I'm sure there are plenty of other excellent
opinions.

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:

This past Monday a very helpful and friendly orthopedic
surgeon kindly harvested a tendon from somewhere inside my
right foot and used it to replace a long missing ligament that
used to stabilize my ankle when walking.  He also scraped out
a good deal of osteo-arthritic buildup that had been limiting
the range of motion of my foot.  Recovery has been a bit
painful so far.  There can be no weight on the joint for three
weeks.  So here I am, reclining on the couch, a little loopy
from pain meds, but so far not watching daytime TV.  To pass
the time, I'm kind of daydreaming about doing a 700C
conversion to my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport.  It's a nifty little
number with double butted 531 frame, fork, and stays.  Years
ago I installed a Moustache h'bar and Technomic Deluxe stem,
also a new cartridge bottom bracket and a Sugino XD2 triple
crank.  Now for the wheels.  I'd like to be able to take
advantage of the huge variety of 700C tires.  And going to
700C will give me more clearance for a wider tire, something I
definitely want now that I am out in the country with all the
washboard dirt roads.  So, any suggestions on how to proceed?
 I've never done one of these conversions.




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[RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

2017-03-02 Thread Wayne Naha

Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, I was not expecting this 
level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm hub!  But I've got time on my 
hands to look.  Thanks to all who have responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois 
cassette hub is certainly an interesting option.

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>
> Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have surgery! Having had 3 
> ankle surgeries over the years. 
>
> Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash to get something 
> like that built these days. 700 conversion is certainly worth going to. 
> Modern brakes have much less flex. 
>
> As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track (Mavic Open Pro, CR 
> 18 for instance) would be preferred. I like Shimano hubs because they are 
> easy to rebuild and service from that period. Downside is finding a 120 
> freewheel hub built to a modern machined brake track rim. I'm sure there 
> are plenty of other excellent opinions.
>
> Cheers
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> This past Monday a very helpful and friendly orthopedic surgeon kindly 
>> harvested a tendon from somewhere inside my right foot and used it to 
>> replace a long missing ligament that used to stabilize my ankle when 
>> walking.  He also scraped out a good deal of osteo-arthritic buildup that 
>> had been limiting the range of motion of my foot.  Recovery has been a bit 
>> painful so far.  There can be no weight on the joint for three weeks.  So 
>> here I am, reclining on the couch, a little loopy from pain meds, but so 
>> far not watching daytime TV.  To pass the time, I'm kind of daydreaming 
>> about doing a 700C conversion to my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport.  It's a nifty 
>> little number with double butted 531 frame, fork, and stays.  Years ago I 
>> installed a Moustache h'bar and Technomic Deluxe stem, also a new cartridge 
>> bottom bracket and a Sugino XD2 triple crank.  Now for the wheels.  I'd 
>> like to be able to take advantage of the huge variety of 700C tires.  And 
>> going to 700C will give me more clearance for a wider tire, something I 
>> definitely want now that I am out in the country with all the washboard 
>> dirt roads.  So, any suggestions on how to proceed?  I've never done one of 
>> these conversions.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread Philip Kim

Atlantis is more size specific and can use drop bars. I just got an 
appaloosa, because after using the bosco and albatross bars, I don't think 
I would use drop bars on this type of bike

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:07:18 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> Just read the latest Blug that goes on about the Appaloosa. Seems to make 
> the case that the Appaloosa is better for touring in many cases than the 
> Atlantis, and better for a wider variety of terrain. So why retain the 
> Atlantis?
>
> Reid
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread 'Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch

Check out this current thread which includes a discussion of Appaloosa vs 
Atlantis:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/SGTUAHh_npg

The take home messages for me are (1) your choice of handlebar is an 
important consideration in choosing between the two and (2) if you want an 
Atlantis then accept no substitute! The latter is a message I think many 
will echo.

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

I enjoyed that long description of the Joe on the Blug. A couple of 
favorite passages:

*If you go about riding thinking there’s nothing you shouldn’t be able to 
conquer, you’ll eventually wreck something; so don’t think it’s you vs 
terrain. ... The woods aren’t your gym and hiking isn’t failure, it’s just 
a way to rest your pedaling muscles, activate other ones, and slow down 
enough to look up and down and around.*

*Don’t save the Appaloosa for special rides just because it’s beautiful. If 
your heirs inherit a pristine bike they’ll figure you were a collector, and 
they’ll be afraid to ride perfect-condition pedal-bike, so they’ll sell it 
to a stranger.*
As someone who has done many estate sales and cleanouts, and otherwise gone 
through dead people's stuff, that last one resonates with me. Just 
yesterday, an auctioneer was dropping off loads of smalls, and I said man, 
I hope I get rid of all my crap so nobody has to go through it all. They'll 
just find me laying among a big pile of bicycles and bicycle parts. All 
well-used, of course.

As for redundancies and overlap, all Rivendells are going to have 
attributes that make them functional, versatile, and comfortable. The 
Rodeo, never mind the Joe or the Atlantis, is no doubt six times better and 
more capable than 92% of the bikes that traveled the countryside coast to 
coast in the 70s. I would say, given their take on bicycles, they've done a 
good job of keeping things fresh and exciting, even if the differences 
between models are sometimes a bit subtle. But a significantly lower price 
point is not subtle!

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:07:18 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> Just read the latest Blug that goes on about the Appaloosa. Seems to make 
> the case that the Appaloosa is better for touring in many cases than the 
> Atlantis, and better for a wider variety of terrain. So why retain the 
> Atlantis?
>
> Reid
>
>

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Re: [RBW] When is a bike old?

2017-03-02 Thread Ron Mc

we're the steel bike guys.  
No question, dollars on bikes and cars both go faster and farther than they 
did in the good old days.  


Adrenaline, anyone?  

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:43:00 PM UTC-6, Addison wrote:
>
> I've recently become enamored of fountain pens. In particular, vintage 
> flex pens. If you haven't written with a pen like this, with its line 
> variation, and tactile feel, I encourage you to dabble.  Be warned though, 
> unlike bikes which take space and raise eyebrows, pens are easy to hide. 
>
> That being said, I save my hundred year old pens for letter writing at my 
> desk at home.  They aren't for every day use.   How does this relate to 
> bikes? 
>
> What does this have to do with bikes and bike technology?   Strangely, 
> quite a lot in my experience. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Joe Bernard  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Only old cars with carburetors and V8s are good and have style? My 
> fuel-injected 4-cylinder Fiat Abarth was ridiculously stylish and ran like 
> stink; I think my new fuel-injected V6 Chevy Impala is quite lovely in 
> Velvet Blue, and that baby is FAST. 
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[RBW] Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-02 Thread Garth

The Atlantis is pretty much the signature Riv frame these days. It has been 
around since the very late 90's and as mentioned, since they are built to order 
they never have unsold frames to concern over. Back then I could have bought 
one in the very original geometry that had longer tt's, but I ordered a local 
custom frame instead so it was an apples oranges kinda thing. 

Thia questioned has been asked every so often with the intro of the next latest 
greatest expando geo frame, but again for all reasons already mentioned the 
Atlantis will be. Any preconfigured frame geo is great if a specific frame fits 
you, not if it doesn't. Customs are always great !  Of all Riv models only a 
60cm. Bomba works for me and I am so glad I have one. It still has the longest 
reach of all stock Riv frames. I look at it as others see an Atlantis. 

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