[RBW] Re: FS Brand New Lugged S84 Seatpost

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Pray tell, Jay, why are you hiding the beauty of that stem behind the light 
reflecting bag? 

How about photos of the stem in raw, stark raving nakedness! 

Cheers,
Bill i nRoswell, GA

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:18:31 PM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> I have a never-opened Nitto S84 lugged seatpost, 27.2 x 300mm long. $140 
> USD, shipped. 
>
> Jay
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[Bill in Roswell GA]

HI Jay. I'm glad you posted the Fizik. I've seen it in person and it's nice 
looking. However the metallic sheen on the blue doesn't quite work with the 
metallic pearl orange paint. 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 9:29:31 AM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> Fizik Performance tape comes in a metal blue. It's quite dark, though not 
> a true navy, and has a slight metallic sheen to it, which may or may not 
> put you off. I like the padding of this tape and find it easy to clean, 
> when necessary.


 

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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Yeah, I started to use Lizard Skins, but it is too bright - reflects a lot 
of light. But it will look good on my celeste Brianchi. 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 7:32:32 AM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Lizard Skins blue is really dark.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Will do, Evan. I'm using Newbaums as finishing tape only. It looks a lot 
better than electrical tape and it comes in nice colors. 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 1:37:36 AM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Bill: Thanks for posting the picture. I, too, wanted to use deep navy bar 
> tape for my new-to-me orange Rambouillet, but couldn't find any. So I took 
> a risk and went with Newbaum's maroon. Please post a pic of your bike with 
> new tape in place.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Great to see the photos of your bikes, James. 

I'm not a cloth tape and shellac guy. That method is great on the wooden 
tiller of my vintage sailboat, but on the bike, I'll use regular bar tape 
with a modicum of cushion, then use cloth tape to finish of the wrap. Once 
I find a shade of blue for the end of time, I may get some Handlebra 
leather tape made, which should last for many years. 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> On an orange Ram, the blue tape must be DARK. My opinion anyway. That last 
> of the 4 you show is my favorite on my Orange Ram, but I like the Cinelli 
> Denim Blue as well. I have at times shopped around, shunning blues too 
> light.
>
> Coincidentally, I rode my Ram today, which for commuting is a bit rare 
> these days. (I usually go Alba-bike of some kind.) Must be something in the 
> ether. So when I saw your post, it went well with today's Ram-love I'm 
> feeling. The bike is really light compared to a Hunqapillar!
>
> Here's mine, from back when the stem was a little lower and longer 
> horizontally (13 cm), I have Tech Deluxe in 12 cm on it now at seat level, 
> otherwise set up the same:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc570-jameswarren1208.html
>
>
> Damn, posted 9 years ago! Here's a bike for which I have never once 
> considered a repaint.
>
> -Jim W
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Bill in Roswell GA 
> Sent: Sep 14, 2017 1:18 PM 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues 
>
> This link should work
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwWEjg3VXSrXZzEyRVhHTmN4TlE/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 3:29:17 PM UTC-4, Bill in Roswell GA 
> wrote:
>>
>> The new-to-me orange Rambouillet is just about finished, except for bar 
>> tape. The bike came with Trek blue tape, darkened from age. On a graphic 
>> arts color wheel, blue is a complimentary color for orange, so figured I 
>> would stick with blue. 
>>
>> I wanted a really dark navy blue color, but such a color is surprisingly 
>> hard to find! As quality of photos and computer monitors vary, the only 
>> real way to find it was to buy or trade for some different shades of blue. 
>> Most blue bar tape is a bright, sky blue. 
>>
>> Cinelli Denim Blue is pretty good, not really navy blue, but darker than 
>> sky blue. Bike Ribbon offers a Dark Blue that isn't too far from Navy, 
>> though with a lot of gray in it. 
>>
>> I'm using Neubaums Cloth Tape in Dark Blue as finishing tape. The shade 
>> is a bit different but that is fine if not preferred for finishing tape. 
>>
>> Comparing the colors for reference, I took some photos outdoors on a 
>> cloudy day. The colors on my computer are quite close to the real thing. 
>> Photo posted in a shared folder. Let me know if you can't see it!
>>
>> *https://tinyurl.com/BarTapeBlues *
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill in Roswell, GA
>>
>> cross post iBob/RBW
>>
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[RBW] Re: Possible 51joe app fs feeler

[Joe Bernard]

I do ok on Craigslist, but you might just need to bump it here occasionally and 
wait it out. The Clem H pre-order just started on the heels of the recent 
Roadini one, so a lot of Riv money just got spent on new bikes. Your bike is 
really nice..there's a buyer out there for it. 

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[RBW] Campy 10 FD Insert

[Call Me Jay]

I've had two fall out in two weeks.  No problems in the past.  Can I glue em? 
Other ideas?

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[RBW] PSA: 55cm Rivendell All-Rounder - $1200

[Joe Bernard]

It's nice, but hoo boy that dark teal color is hard to look at now. I saw a 
same-vintage 996 Porsche the other day with that hue and my first thought was 
"I wonder how hard that thing was to sell."

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[RBW] PSA: 55cm Rivendell All-Rounder - $1200

[Chris Birkenmaier]

People crack me up. It's dusty but he doesn't want to mess with it. Okay

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[RBW] Re: Berthoud decaleur measurement question.

[John Hawrylak]

In the GB catalog, ther is a table for the size of decailluer based on the 
bag used, length of stem and height from top of rack to centerline of the 
stem bolt and type of stem bolt orientation (vertical or horzantal).  The 
table gives the proper length to use, e.g a H-91 or a H-121.

I could not find the table using some quick searches but it is there.  I 
hope this helps

John Hawrylak

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 5:20:01 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:

> If the measurement from the center of my stem clamp bolt head down to the 
> place on my Berthoud  GB 25 bag where the decaleur will attach is 12 cm 
> then I need to buy the 121  extension? I'm guessing the 121 means it is 12 
> cm long? 

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[RBW] PSA: 55cm Rivendell All-Rounder - $1200

[Bob K.]

Beautiful. I'd think of selling my beloved canti Sam to buy it, but alas, too 
small for me as well.

Bob

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[RBW] PSA: 55cm Rivendell All-Rounder - $1200

[Matt Beecher]

I have no part in this sale, but there is a Rivendell All-Rounder for sale 
near Chicago.  If it was a 58-60cm frame, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but 55 
is way too small for me.   

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/d/rivendell-all-rounder-bicycle/6303452057.html

Cheers,
Matt

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[lum gim fong]

Thanks, Ron!
That's okay. I understand. Thanks for looking out for me on both accounts, 
though.

My measurement was just because I wanted to be sure the crank arms, and 
thus the pedals, were running at equal distances to the seat tube/bb so 
that nothing was off. Although I think I have heard of people offsetting to 
one side or another. So I guess even if it was not equidistant by a few mm, 
it would not matter.

On my other bike (Bleriot), the drive side crank arm is like 4cm more 
outboard. On this bike, the Rambouillet, the crank arms are the same 
distance to the seat tube. I don't know what they were before I 
re-installed the crank. But they are symmetrical now.
It has a Shimano UN55-110 bottom bracket.

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Ron Mc]

oops, not thinking straight again, it's the other way, but I know I like 
asymmetric BB better for the way everything sets up.  

I was able to use a 2mm narrower BB than Jan recommended on my Viner with 
basically the same drivetrain you're setting up.  I used Ultegra CX70 FD, 
and I got great chainline.  

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 5:36:14 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> yes and no - a symmetric BB means your left foot is closer to the frame 
> than your right foot.  
>
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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Ron Mc]

yes and no - a symmetric BB means your left foot is closer to the frame 
than your right foot.  
I'm running a Phil asymmetric one one bike, and an SKF made asymmetric with 
a drive-side spacer on another bike (photo).  


I still think a possible solution for you is a drive-side spacer, but I'm 
not looking at your bike, and you are.  


On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
>
> Update:
>
> I measured how far away from the seat tube the crank arm I tighened is. It 
> is the same distance from the seat tube as the other arm. So the crank arms 
> are equal and everything is still symmetrical.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[Jim Robertson]

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 8:39:07 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote:
> Yeah, I had the Fizik metal blue on my orange rambly for a while, tho I can't 
> find any pics to share.  I run Fizik in white on it now which looks good and 
> is reasonably easy to clean.  It's good tape if you can find a color to suit 
> you...
> 
> On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 9:29:31 AM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:Fizik 
> Performance tape comes in a metal blue. It's quite dark, though not a true 
> navy, and has a slight metallic sheen to it, which may or may not put you 
> off. I like the padding of this tape and find it easy to clean, when 
> necessary.

Have you thought about using clear shellac on the dark blue newbaums?  It would 
darken the blue a bit.  May not get you full navy blue but would be close.

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[RBW] Thoughts on Devold boxer briefs?

[Rory Woods]

Thanks everyone for the input! 

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[lum gim fong]

Update:

I measured how far away from the seat tube the crank arm I tighened is. It is 
the same distance from the seat tube as the other arm. So the crank arms are 
equal and everything is still symmetrical.

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[RBW] Berthoud decaleur measurement question.

[lum gim fong]

 If the measurement from the center of my stem clamp bolt head down to the 
place on my Berthoud  GB 25 bag where the decaleur will attach is 12 cm then I 
need to buy the 121  extension? I'm guessing the 121 means it is 12 cm long? 

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[RBW] Re: Possible 51joe app fs feeler

[Andrew Huston]

Seems like not much interest. Does anyone have places other than eBay that they 
have had luck selling?  

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[RBW] Re: FS Brand New Lugged S84 Seatpost

[Les Lammers]

I seem to have the same issue with my Cheviot. I have some Albatross bars 
I'd like to use but a bar end shifter is stuck is one side and nothing I've 
tried so far will budge it. I may trim the bars a bit and see if that helps.


On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 2:26:35 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

> Hi Tim...you make a good point about not shoving the saddle back   and  my 
> other Rivs are not in the least twitchy but this one with Chocos ,  to my 
> mind, is and this is after Mark tweaked it by swapping in a longer stem (12 
> or 13cm) and cutting off  14mm off the choc. bars. Riv graciously gave me 
> my choice of what I wanted to do. so I went with that option. One way or 
> the other, I'm still a few millimeters from Nirvana but I'm also thinking 
> that the configuration is just not what I'm  personally used to. I haven't 
> ridden an upright bike since I was 13 or 14. Totally fixable , though, I am 
> sure
>
>  BTW not using this forum to criticize Rivendell who could not have been 
> more accommodating and who built me  a  gorgeous bike.
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:31:35 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Maybe this is a dumb suggestion, but couldn't one simulate cutting off 
>> the Choco bars by gripping them a bit further forward from the ends. I say 
>> this because I'm guessing that the "twitchiness" you both describe (a 
>> description I've never heard about any Riv) maybe is due to the increased 
>> leverage from gripping the very swept back Choco bars at the end (the 
>> natural place one would grab, of course.) It seems the swept back bars are, 
>> in essence, a lever, and the further away from the axis of rotation, the 
>> easier (twitchier?) it is to turn the wheels. If you notice less response 
>> when you move your hands in, then shorten the bars. I'm thinking that by 
>> moving the seat back, more weight goes to the rear wheel, thus the 
>> twitchiness could get worse. Full disclosure: I am about as far from an 
>> engineer or bike designer as I could be. In other words, my opinion and 4 
>> bucks will get you a latte, and nothing else.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Ron Mc]

never mind - probably a great FD choice

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 2:56:00 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
> Ron, lum ordered a SunXCD *double front derailleur* , not the crank !   
> :-)
>
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> A warning about the Sun XCD - I'm running two, and they need at least a 
>> 121mm asymmetric BB.  
>>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Garth]

Ron, lum ordered a SunXCD *double front derailleur* , not the crank !   :-)


On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
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> A warning about the Sun XCD - I'm running two, and they need at least a 
> 121mm asymmetric BB.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Ron Mc]

A warning about the Sun XCD - I'm running two, and they need at least a 
121mm asymmetric BB.  

  

With symmetric BB, some recommend 125mm.  


On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:32:12 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Update:
>
> No lubing or height adjustment or turning of FD allows clearance of the 
> chain. Better, but still rubs a little.
>
> So I took the FD off and will ride without it until the SunXCD double 
> arrives. Forumite says it also works good as a triple. So sounds like it 
> has enough spread. It will do 16T I think.
>
> If that doesn't work, the I might switch FD's with my Bleriot as the 
> Bleriot derailer moves in 1/2cm more than the Deore. But hopefully the XCD 
> will work.
>
> Went riding today without the FD and it was really nice!!! The cassette 
> gearing works for me in my terrain. The rear cassette works great on the 
> Rambouillet with the rear derailer.  I even considered not using a FD 
> anymore. I think I could drop the chain to the inner ring if I need it with 
> my shoe while riding. Just not sure how to shift back onto the middle ring 
> while riding.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: When a Riv is out of reach..

[Ryan Fleming]

Quality and value...what's not to like ; that is a nice looking machine and 
certainly Rivish in spirit.

I hope that she likes it

On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 7:48:20 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the nice comments. I took it for a little spin tonight and 
> it shifts easily, and climbs just fine. Upright posture makes it nice to 
> take in the world around me. I hand it over next Wednesday. If she's not 
> thrilled with it, I'll just keep it :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Patrick Moore]

I recall reading the story of 2 brothers who toured the world on custom
Raleighs (I think they were Raleighs) in the early '80s; they set their
bikes up with 2 chainrings but no front derailleurs, and carried
strategically hooked bits of wire clipped to the bar or something which
they used to shift the chain from ring to ring.

I recall building my Ken Rogers trike without a fd -- forget why; it had a
Stronglight 99 wide range double. It was fun, at the time, to be able to
come to a dead stop on a hill with feet still clipped in and butt in
saddle, then to release right foot, backpedal with left, and push the
bottom of the chain onto granny with right toe. I did have to get off at
the top of the hill to shift it back onto the big ring.

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Ian A  wrote:

> I tried running without a front derailleur for a while. Stick shifting
> didn't work well for me.  I could never find a stick when I needed one,
> sometimes overshifted by foot, and quite often ended up with greasy hand
> syndrome.
>
> A well set-up front derailleur is a pleasure. Can be a pain to set-up, but
> the payoff is well worthwhile.
>
> IanA
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[RBW] Re: Clem H pre-order

[Jim D Massachusetts]

Congrats Paul. Maybe you could do some pictures and a description of your 
riding impressions.Jim D Massachusetts

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 12:18:51 AM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:
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> The Clem H pre-order is now live on the RBW site. Get one while you can - 
> I think they will go fast. 
> I just got a Clem L on Saturday and it is really awesome. Total game 
> changer for me :)
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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[stevef]

Yeah, I had the Fizik metal blue on my orange rambly for a while, tho I 
can't find any pics to share.  I run Fizik in white on it now which looks 
good and is reasonably easy to clean.  It's good tape if you can find a 
color to suit you...

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 9:29:31 AM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> Fizik Performance tape comes in a metal blue. It's quite dark, though not 
> a true navy, and has a slight metallic sheen to it, which may or may not 
> put you off. I like the padding of this tape and find it easy to clean, 
> when necessary. 
>
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[RBW] 64cm Clem L

[Joe Bernard]

Wait 'til you've ridden the L a while, then kick the toptube trying to mount 
your Appaloosa. "I never noticed that was there before." ;-)

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[RBW] Longshot crank trade proposal

[drew]

Interesting. Hadn't even thought about that. I'll give them a call. 

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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[Jay Connolly]

Fizik Performance tape comes in a metal blue. It's quite dark, though not a 
true navy, and has a slight metallic sheen to it, which may or may not put you 
off. I like the padding of this tape and find it easy to clean, when necessary. 

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[RBW] 64cm Clem L

[Jay Connolly]

Ordered. I have been admiring the Cheviots and Clem's for some time, and at one 
point I was going to order a 59 Clem. Then I caught wind of the 64 Clem L and 
yesterday snagged the first pre-order frameset in grilver.

As recently as 3 years ago, I may well have scoffed at the idea of a 
step-through (or even a rack or kickstand) despite the fact that I've never 
been fast and have ZERO claims on the title "performance cyclist." But I set my 
Joe up as a hauler (basket, medium Saddlesack, a rear rack when needed, etc) 
and have enjoyed it tremendously. I took that bike to our new cottage a week 
ago and miss it already. The big Clem L will replace the Joe on the home front. 
I will build it up as a 1x11 with a 32 front and an 11-42 rear, since I have 
those parts on-hand. 

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Crankset help please.

[Ian A]

I tried running without a front derailleur for a while. Stick shifting didn't 
work well for me.  I could never find a stick when I needed one, sometimes 
overshifted by foot, and quite often ended up with greasy hand syndrome. 

A well set-up front derailleur is a pleasure. Can be a pain to set-up, but the 
payoff is well worthwhile. 

IanA

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[RBW] Longshot crank trade proposal

[Ian A]

Just curious if you coukd ask Riv to exchange it? I couldn't see an objection 
as it is NIB. 

IanA

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