[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

[George Rosselle]

Anybody else see a wee bit of Retrotec here?



On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:24:20 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-) 
>
>
> https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg
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> =- Joe Bunik 
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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Neil Doran]

I know those trails well, and that is a grande ride. Super fun, even under 
biking, but then you gotta work. Plus the bummer pave at the end. I’m assuming 
you BARTed home?

I have attained the holy grail of adulthood with my 9 mile RT commute, replete 
with alternative coffee and beer stops, and lonely trails for the ‘long’ way 
home.

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[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Brett Callahan]

I'm on the preorder for a 59. At first I was a little disappointed it 
wasn't a straight bar double top tube, but after seeing a couple of photos 
as opposed to the sketch that was posted, I can't wait. It looks great. 

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:24:20 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-) 
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> https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg
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>
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Evan E.]

That's an impressive and inspiring commute, Bill. Love that second picture 
of the trail through the trees.

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[RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[Meade Anderson]

Don’t forget to try a loop around Hains Point...low traffic, relatively quiet, 
and great views...

Meade...a bit south of DC

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Ray Varella]

Here’s my take on the subject: I try to spend the majority of my discretionary 
dollars with small businesses, artisans, farmers and artisans. 
I do my banking with my local credit union. 
Community is critical and having a real person remember your name and thank you 
for your support is how we prevent the further encroachment of big box retail 
from gobbling up the last remaining small businesses. 

I would much rather deal with limited runs and out of stock items than to see 
the unique and good become extinct. 

Ray

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[RBW] FS: Velocity Dyad Rims and Tires

[Jonathan D.]

Sent a PM. Hopefully it went through. 

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[RBW] FS: Velocity Dyad Rims and Tires

[Mike OShea]

For sale: Velocity Dyad Rims 700c in excellent condition. Front hub Shimano 
LX 670, 100mm spacing, rear hub Shimano LX 670 spacing 135. Hubs titanium 
gray color. Included Shimano 9 Speed cassette (11-32) Also included 
Schwalbe Smart Sam tires. Ridden less than 100 miles. Nice to have an extra 
set of wheels and tires to pop on and ride. Used on my Sam. Asking $175. 
includes free shipping. Paypal preferred. Please reply off list. 



 



 
 
 



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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018, Michael Hechmer wrote: *At 73 all I need are 
replacement parts. *

Yikes, yeah.  I could use some replacement parts myself, and I'm only 58.

Yes, I've had a case or two of the Out of Stock Blues. But, life goes on. 
And as Hugh says, anticipation--give it a try some time! Unless, of course, 
you are facing a true life or death bicycle build emergency. Even in those 
cases, I choose not to use Amazon; just not a healthy business model in any 
way, shape, or form. In, of course, my own little opinion. 

And I will add to the praise of the back o bike bags. I've extolled them 
here and elsewhere before. I have two sets, one in gray and one in blue. A 
huge indulgence for me. So great. So fun to use every day. Just the best 
bags ever for around town usage. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[hugh flynn]

In an age of instant gratification fed by  federated clearing houses of
on-line retail excess, i think it’s perfectly fine wait for things from
time to time.

Sure, I love being able to get what I want when I want it - but that’s an
unreasonable and unsustainable expectation for ALL things at ALL times.
There are 1000 sellers able to provide cables, housing, and derailers
through Amazon (and now Walmart on-line sales) - but those are commodity
goods that can be provided by a countless number of sellers. I never know
if Seller A is out of something I want, because sellers B through Z are
always there to provide what I want when A can’t. That’s great, but it’s a
model that only works for readily available, mass-produced, commodities.

Once you step out of the high volume  commodity market, expectations of
instant gratification must contend with the realities of small batch
production, raw material availability, suppliers who freak out and run away
to Cabo when a big order is due, and the never ending small-business cash
flow/inventory dance of the macabre.

Expectations must be adjusted when one wants what Amazon doesn’t provide.

Hugh “delayed gratification ain’t all bad” Flynn



On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 6:49 PM Grant Petersen  wrote:

> If at first you don't succeed, etc. It's an ongoing challenge, no doubt,
> but always a worthy one.
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>> did not notice a large reduction.
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[RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[Elisabeth Sherwood]

Hi Rene,

The Renaissance is only a few blocks from BicycleSpace, one of the shops in 
the city. Stop by when you arrive and pick up the Washington DC bicycle 
map, which will give you some good routes in the city and, more important, 
access to and from the off-street trails, of which there are quite a few. 
BicycleSpace is at 440 K Street Northwest (K Street NW, between 4th and 5th 
Streets).

Link to the map here (but much, much easier to have the paper 
map): http://godcgo.com/bike/

Have a lovely visit!

Liz Sherwood
Washington, DC



On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm going to go to Washington DC for 5 days next week for a meeting, and 
> was wondering if it's worth bringing my Bike Friday with me to get some 
> nice early morning rides. I'll be staying at the Renaissance Hotel 
> Downtown, and all rides would have to start/finish at the hotel, although I 
> could get an Uber to go somewhere and put the bike in the trunk as an 
> option as well.
>
> What do the locals recommend? Any nice rides, not in the middle of traffic 
> that would be worth doing? Any riding trails in the area worth exploring? 
> Most of my potential rides would likely be 60-90 minutes long at most.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and recommendations,
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

[Dave Small]

Tim,

Jim is correct. When I first registered for this forum I used a Yahoo email 
address, and got rejected each time---and like you, lost out on some 
opportunities.  I switched my email address to a .mac address and that 
solved the problem. 

Dave

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Grant Petersen]

If at first you don't succeed, etc. It's an ongoing challenge, no doubt,
but always a worthy one.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:43 PM, John Hawrylak 
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> did not notice a large reduction.
>
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[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Bill Lindsay]

Yes, I knew you were messing around.  I was just playing along.  #wink#

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:
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> I am just messing around Bill.  It seems whatever Rivendell starts becomes 
> popular in the general market.  Being sarcastic when implying that pretty 
> soon all bike companies will be touting a truss frame. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have heard somewhere, you can also punch a small hole in your tube, 
insert sealant then patch it. Haven't tried it yet...


Clayton 
Dirtdance

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[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Mattt]

I am just messing around Bill.  It seems whatever Rivendell starts becomes 
popular in the general market.  Being sarcastic when implying that pretty soon 
all bike companies will be touting a truss frame. 

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[John Hawrylak]

Grant's theme of "duplication" was stated about 5 to 6 years ago, but I did 
not notice a large reduction.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the guidance. First, the Hunq is a 58cm, so it's got 700c wheels. As 
does Homer. Next, I'll be working quite a lot and prefer my precious ride time 
to be for riding, not fixing flats. So with the information I've gotten, I'm 
going to go with sealant and just learn from my mistakes and become proficient. 
Patrick, IIRC, you very, very few flats with sealant? So I will use a tire that 
is less than "bombproof" but stouter than a Compass. I guess for now I'm best 
off using tubes w/removable cores. I'll stay with the Thunder Burts on the Hunq 
and look at a Panaracer or a bit more supple, versatile Schwalbe for the new 
Homer configuration. Tally Ho, goatheads!

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[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

[ctifusion]

Great to see one built up! I love it and can't wait until June.

brynnar
Indy

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:24:20 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-) 
>
>
> https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg
>  
>
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[Steve Palincsar]

If you're equipped for it, riding the Mall / Tidal Basin area at night 
-- Monuments by Moonlight -- can be a lot of fun.



On 04/26/2018 12:57 PM, EasyRider wrote:
René, I'm local and work downtown. I'd suggest you ride the length of 
the national mall one morning (both sides), and around the Tidal Basin 
and East Potomac Park another. An out and back trip to Chain Bridge 
might make a good third trip if you have a little more time and bring 
your bike. Head down to the Lincoln Memorial and then go past the 
Kennedy Center and Watergate complex. You'll then pass through 
Georgetown Waterfront park and and beyond that is the C Canal 
towpath. Take that up to Chain Bridge and take the ramp up to the path 
along the sidewalk  -- it's a very scenic setting, just a couple miles 
from the city.


Pete
Arlington, VA

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-4, René wrote:

Hi all,

I'm going to go to Washington DC for 5 days next week for a
meeting, and was wondering if it's worth bringing my Bike Friday
with me to get some nice early morning rides. I'll be staying at
the Renaissance Hotel Downtown, and all rides would have to
start/finish at the hotel, although I could get an Uber to go
somewhere and put the bike in the trunk as an option as well.

What do the locals recommend? Any nice rides, not in the middle of
traffic that would be worth doing? Any riding trails in the area
worth exploring? Most of my potential rides would likely be 60-90
minutes long at most.

Thanks for any suggestions and recommendations,



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[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Bill Lindsay]

I don't know if truss frames are the new "gravel bike", but 'good-looking' 
is timeless, and that new Atlantis is good looking!

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:20:30 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:
>
> ANT bike was doing truss frame bike for awhile. Are truss frames the new 
> “gravel bike.” 
>
> https://antbikemike.wordpress.com/truss-bike/

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[RBW] Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Mattt]

ANT bike was doing truss frame bike for awhile. Are truss frames the new 
“gravel bike.”

https://antbikemike.wordpress.com/truss-bike/

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[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks everyone! It's sure nice to have people smarter than me around (don't go 
getting big heads, it's a low bar...)

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[RBW] Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Christopher Murray]

I was very skeptical but I have to say that I really really like it. 

Chris

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[RBW] Re: FS: 175mm? 173mm? I have no idea Rivendell Silver Crankset wide double off a clem smith jr l

[Brett Callahan]

They come in odd sizing--170-173-178-184. My Riv assembled Clem H in size 
59 came with the 178mm cranks. 

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:14:44 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Ill get specifics later when home but its the crank that came on my clem 
> smith.
> $175 shipped
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Re: [RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[René Sterental]

Thank you all!

Sounds like a plan.

René

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Howard Hatten  wrote:

> Hi Rene,
> I stayed at the Renaissance for a couple days at the end of my Gap-C
> tour. They had no problem with me taking my bike up to my room every day.
> As far as the riding I had no problem around town. Most of the main streets
> have bike lanes. I enjoyed riding around the mall. Since your close you
> might as well go ride some miles on the tow path.
> Have fun
> Howard
> Livonia Mi
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[RBW] Truss-frame Atlantis!

[Joe Bunik]

Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-)

https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg

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[RBW] WTB: 1 5mm Brass Ferrule

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hi Conway, 
I just ordered a bag from Rivendell this morning. Happy to give you one once it 
arrives. Might also have one tucked away in a bike part box if you need one 
sooner. 
Best, 
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, Parts, Accessories (lotsa)

[Minh]

>
> *Updated and removed items sold, FYI i’ll be out of town 5/2-5/10, so 
nothing will be shipped between those dates 

>
Bike Parts for Sale 

> TLDR: (but make sure to read below on condtion of certain items!!) 

> Shipping not included.  Photos: https://goo.gl/photos/9NfCPWYZ6BJEL13f6 

>
Berthoud 604 Saddle Bag + Rack: $200 

> Brooks Challenge Tool Saddle Bag, Black, $25 

> Baggins Handlebar Bag: $75, 

>
Shimano LX V-Brake, $10 

> Silver Bar-End Shifters and Pods, $50 

> GranCompe Shifters on Silver Pods, $50 

> IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: $50 

> Suntour Accushift DT Shifters (7sp or friction): $7 

> Shimano UN26 BB, 68x113: $5 

>
Panaracer Pasela (almost) matched Pair, 1 folding 700x38, 1 wire 700x35: 
$40 

> Vittoria Randonneur Hyper 700X38 Pair: $60 

>
Brooks Team Pro (Eroica 2015)  $100 

>
Nitto M12: $50 

> Paul Brakes Canti-Bolts for Racks: $15 ($10 if you buy with M12 rack) 

>
Velo Orange Grand Cru Quill Stem, 120mm: $45 

>
Silca Impero Pump: $12 

>


Details Below 

>
Hi all, just starting the process of culling the closet, drop me a line if 
you’re interested in anything,  I’m in the Washington DC area. 

>
All prices below are before shipping--if you want something please send me 
a message with your zipcode and i will calculate totals.  if you buy more 
than one item then i will combine shipping as best as i can, there is a 
photoset here -> https://goo.gl/photos/9NfCPWYZ6BJEL13f6 

>
If you want more photos of an item, please let me know.   If you want to 
make me an offer I won’t be offended, but don’t be offended if i don’t 
reply.   Please send all messages privately. 

>
For payment, i accept either Google Pay (preferred) or PayPal.  I will 
leave it up to you based on your comfort level on the type of paypal to 
use. 

>
And a few terms to keep in mind.   

> Send an email directly to work out terms, posting a reply does not reserve 
an item.  I will not be able to reply to everyone, but i will update the 
post once something sells.  If i don’t get back to you, assume that someone 
beat you to it. 

> If you ask me for a total w/ shipping calculated, please let me know 
promptly whether you still want the item.  It’s not fair to me or the rest 
of the list to delay, if you need more time to decide ask for it, but be ok 
with it being sold to someone else who’s ready to buy. 

> After we agree on terms, i will send you an invoice, i expect/give you 24 
hours to send payment (unless other arrangements are made).  Then i will 
go-on to the next person. 

> Normally i ship within 1-2 days, however if i’m travelling for work it may 
be delayed up to a week (ships on the weekend).  I will let you know at 
time of payment, if getting the item is time critical, please bring this up 
before payment. 

> FS: Bags 

> Prices do not include shipping (I will charge you actual USPS 
shipping)--I’m on the east coast so shipping will be less the closer you 
are to me.  Please email me directly with any questions, if you’re reading 
via a smart-phone, you may need to switch to the desktop version (link at 
the bottom of your browser), to reply directly. 

>
Berthoud 604 Saddle Bag + Rack: $200 

> Used for a few seasons but switched to a front-loader.  This includes the 
special rack that bolts onto the seatpost.  Even though i’m not using the 
bag the rack is still mounted to my bike so this will take an extra day or 
two to ship. 

>
Brooks Challenge Tool Saddle Bag, Black, $25 

> This is the small leather tool bag, i picked this up second hand and one 
of the bolts had come undone on one of the straps, i replaced it with a nut 
and bolt, you can see the bolt on the inside.  There is some scratches and 
wear on the leather, it could use a good polish.   The straps are a little 
crunchy and stretched out, but it still feels like it will hold. 

>
Baggins Handlebar Bag: $75, 

> I believe this is the pre-cursor to the hobo bag, it looks a little 
smaller then a true hobo bag and the pockets on the front are different, 
this one has 1 big pocket instead of two separate ones on the front, with a 
single flap.   Some light grease stains on the bottom where it got close to 
the tire (looks worst in pics).  Otherwise in very good condition, the 
leather is still really dark.  You can use this without a rack or decaleur 
(and i don’t think using a rack would actually help) the bag sways as you 
pedal--but there are d-rings on the corners in the front where you could 
secure it with some twine, will work with drop bars the best.  You can get 
this to work with alba and moustache bars but it will require some creative 
arrangements with twine to the brake levers to secure it. 

>
--- 

> Shimano LX V-Brake, $10 

> Single v-brake (1 wheel), the pads are nearly worn down so you’ll need to 
replace soon, no pics but will take some if you really need them. 

>
Silver Bar-End Shifters and Pods, $50 

> A little bit of shop-wear but never mounted. 

>
GranCompe Shifters on Silver Pods, $50 

> 

[RBW] FS: 175mm? 173mm? I have no idea Rivendell Silver Crankset wide double off a clem smith jr l

[Belopsky]

Ill get specifics later when home but its the crank that came on my clem 
smith.
$175 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Eric]

What's wrong with Amazon? I actually would like them to be profitable and 
growing like Amzn. 

I viewed another cycling forum that discussed all things Riv during the 
Hail Mary including business fundamentals such as overhead, inventory, 
overlap of frames, number of employees, expensive Bay Area real estate, etc

Interesting discussion to say the least. 


On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 12:16:46 PM UTC-5, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> Rivendell is not Amazon. We don't want them to be. Grant, please continue 
> to do what you need to do. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[phil k]

Not at all Joe, I  just bought one myself thanks to your post. 

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Apologies if that seemed a little OT. The idea was to promote an in stock 
> product on a thread about stuff being out of stock. Awkwardly. 

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Bill Lindsay]

Thanks all.  I feel good today, but my legs and shoulders are a bit sore 
from grinding up the steepies.  I'm thinking about trying the same route 
next time with my proper mountain bike and comparing my segment times.  
There should be definite advantages having 29x2.3" tires and shocks on the 
rougher stuff, but the drop bars and narrower tires should be faster on the 
smoother stuff.  Which bike will win?  That's another advantage to Strava, 
in that you can do semi-objective comparisons.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 8:47:44 AM UTC-7, Chris Corral wrote:
>
> Wow! Excellent route. Good work!
>
>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Joe Bernard]

Apologies if that seemed a little OT. The idea was to promote an in stock 
product on a thread about stuff being out of stock. Awkwardly. 

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[RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[Howard Hatten]

Hi Rene,
I stayed at the Renaissance for a couple days at the end of my Gap-C tour. 
They had no problem with me taking my bike up to my room every day. As far as 
the riding I had no problem around town. Most of the main streets have bike 
lanes. I enjoyed riding around the mall. Since your close you might as well go 
ride some miles on the tow path. 
Have fun
Howard
Livonia Mi

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Paul Choi]

Rivendell is not Amazon. We don't want them to be. Grant, please continue 
to do what you need to do. 

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:01:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> OK, so I'm no longer a big bike spender, but I do own three Riv bikes and 
> feel some loyalty to the company.  At 73 all I need are replacement parts. 
>   I haven't ordered anything from RBW in two years because every time I try 
> to put in an order half of what I need is out of stock.  
>
> It's finally Spring in Vt and this week I pulled all the bikes out of the 
> basement, cleaned & tuned them up.  I made a list of the replacement parts 
> I needed, which was really very short - new HB tape and one tire.  Of 
> course I can always use cleaner and lube so added them in, then threw in a 
> chain guard for the Rambouillet.  Went to the RBW site and discovered that 
> the tire I wanted was out of stock, as was the chain guard.  Not much point 
> in putting in an order for HB tape and two items I can buy anywhere
>
> VO has the tire (650b X 38 skin wall) and HB  tape, so once again no sale 
> for RBW.
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

[sameness]

ETA: Make sure you write down the current SMTP server address in case it 
doesn't work!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:02:43 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
> Try changing the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) in your whichever email 
> application you're using to:
>
> smtp.mail.yahoo.com
>
>
> You're welcome to send me a PM to test it out.
>
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
>
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

[sameness]

Try changing the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) in your whichever email 
application you're using to:

smtp.mail.yahoo.com


You're welcome to send me a PM to test it out.


Jeff Hagedorn

Los Angeles, CA USA


On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:45:53 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> This is the message I get whenever I reply privately to author in desktop.
>
>
> [image: Error Icon]
> Message blocked
> Your message to  has been blocked. See technical 
> details below for more information.
> LEARN MORE 
> The response was:
>
> Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's 
> DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of yahoo.com domain if 
> this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the DMARC 
> initiative. l7-v6sor1240562otf.147 - gsmtp
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I lost out on a set of Bon Jon tires trying to reply directly to the 
>> poster. I've lost out on several items this way.  If you're on a Mac, the 
>> only option to reply directly to the poster is by switching to "Desktop", 
>> which then gives you the option to reply directly. I've done this several 
>> times and I get an email reply (always either several hours later or in my 
>> spam folder) that my reply has been rejected. By then, someone has already 
>> bought the item. Yes, I get the email digest, in which the posters entire 
>> email address is listed (even on the desktop version, on a Mac or iPhone, 
>> the email address is only partial, thus of no use) but by the time it 
>> comes, the item is usually sold. I guess my point is that I will always 
>> have to reply on list to any for sale post, if I hope to have a chance at 
>> the item. So please understand that I'm not ignoring your request to be 
>> contacted offline because I'm a dick (although, undoubtedly I am at times) 
>> it's because I want the item and can't get it any other way. 
>>
>> Peace, 
>> Tim "now in Casa Grande, AZ and learning about goatheads" Kirch
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Pondero]

I greatly appreciate Grant's feedback on this, and will say that I'm 
personally very comfortable with less items and choices in exchange for 
greater reliability of availability.  I love the unique and specialty 
products, and I enjoy returning to the website to "see what they have now".

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[EasyRider]

René, I'm local and work downtown. I'd suggest you ride the length of the 
national mall one morning (both sides), and around the Tidal Basin and East 
Potomac Park another. An out and back trip to Chain Bridge might make a 
good third trip if you have a little more time and bring your bike. Head 
down to the Lincoln Memorial and then go past the Kennedy Center and 
Watergate complex. You'll then pass through Georgetown Waterfront park and 
and beyond that is the C Canal towpath. Take that up to Chain Bridge and 
take the ramp up to the path along the sidewalk  -- it's a very scenic 
setting, just a couple miles from the city.

Pete
Arlington, VA

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm going to go to Washington DC for 5 days next week for a meeting, and 
> was wondering if it's worth bringing my Bike Friday with me to get some 
> nice early morning rides. I'll be staying at the Renaissance Hotel 
> Downtown, and all rides would have to start/finish at the hotel, although I 
> could get an Uber to go somewhere and put the bike in the trunk as an 
> option as well.
>
> What do the locals recommend? Any nice rides, not in the middle of traffic 
> that would be worth doing? Any riding trails in the area worth exploring? 
> Most of my potential rides would likely be 60-90 minutes long at most.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and recommendations,
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: IRD NeedL BlastR 1" Threaded HS

[sameness]

Looks like you can buy it straight from IRD 
.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 5:46:18 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> Rivs out.  I wanted to use my Hail Mary $$$.  Maybe someone here bought 
> one for a false start project?  Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway
> www.ChicaGoByBoat.com
> 833.312.BOAT
> @svnightswimming
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[hugh flynn]

It’s a bit of a catch 22 I would imagine.

Inventory requires capital, and capital is generated by moving inventory.
What's a small business to do?


On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:03 AM 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Yeah, me too.
>
> I responded to their request to 'please buy something to save the
> company'.  Everything (*I sorta wanted*) was out of stock.  I check
> weekly, but some stuff has been out of stock forever.
> Bike packing has become huge. I would think that some Rivendell rackless
> bikepacking bags would sell well, as well as a plus tired Hunqa. Creativity
> in their stock is needed. Needs a refresh.
>
> Clayton
> #DirtDanceDesigns
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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Deacon Patrick]

I’ll celebrate the back-a-bike bags’ radical and power simplicity and being so 
much more for being so much less in a different thread at a later date, but to 
piggyback on Joe’s comment — the bags are brilliant and unsurpassed in the 
cycling industry for hearty simplicity and doing the job singularly and better 
than any other and being life-long quality even if you use them like I do.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Joe Bernard]

I just bought a Banana Sax in olive and want to give a shoutout 'cause Oh Mercy 
is it pretty and useful and mysteriously way better than other banana bags. 
Like, you can see where it would be an improvement, but it's hard to explain to 
your I've-seen-a-dozen-bananas eyes why it's so much better. It's so much 
better! In stock now!

Joe Bernard

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[RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[Tom Wyland]

I don't do much cycling right in the city (I live in the VA suburbs), but 
the Mt. Vernon Trail is nice (along the river in the Virginia side). I 
think you'll be sharing it with lots of runners, etc,  unless it's in the 
early AM.  I'd also recommend riding the trails on the national mall and 
the tidal basin area in the non-peak hours for some sight-seeing.

You can check out the Washington Area Bike Forums for some advice: 
http://bikearlingtonforum.com/forum.php
Here's a cool local bike map site: http://dcbikemap.com/

If you don't want to bring your bike, consider Capital Bikeshare.  I've 
used similar systems when visiting Denver and New York on business. I just 
expense the weekly pass and use it to commute to my office instead of taxis 
or car rentals.

Tom


On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm going to go to Washington DC for 5 days next week for a meeting, and 
> was wondering if it's worth bringing my Bike Friday with me to get some 
> nice early morning rides. I'll be staying at the Renaissance Hotel 
> Downtown, and all rides would have to start/finish at the hotel, although I 
> could get an Uber to go somewhere and put the bike in the trunk as an 
> option as well.
>
> What do the locals recommend? Any nice rides, not in the middle of traffic 
> that would be worth doing? Any riding trails in the area worth exploring? 
> Most of my potential rides would likely be 60-90 minutes long at most.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and recommendations,
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Profligate inventory buying slims up our cushion of safety when an 
unexpected blast hits, and our usual monthly $30,000 to $40,000 inventory 
spending was cut back to $5,000 for the three months leading up to the 
recent near-fall (even here I seemed cheap at that). It still wasn't 
enough, but it made it better. But when the money's not coming in, the only 
thing we can do is keep it from going out, just huddle and say, "we gotta 
sell the stuff on the shelves." 
And in some cases, things we've stocked are getting harder to impossible to 
buy. Our 18-year supplier of Aussie wool things has closed. Our Norweigian 
supplier of wool stocks almost nothing, so for us to get it we have to 
commit to like 6 months of underwear that trickles out. So we're not doing 
much of that anymore
This is no different from any other business, but I absolutely know the 
frustration. I've stocked up on XL knickers, a size way too big, b/c I 
don't see us ever getting in my beloved L's again. I bought two of the blue 
MUSA shirts and one Green, same reason. 
We're still recovering and are being extra carefulbut there are still 
gaps. Not a lot, though. Do we need to stock 10 varieties of bells, to 
indulge the bell-particularists? I think 3 is enough. The focus is on 
duplication elimination now...and stopping trying to stock things we think 
are groovy (or, in some cases "I" think are groovy) that nobody else seems 
to like. 
Here's some stuff going on to maybe look forward to and to end this on an 
upnote: We're slowly ramping up MUSA wool, starting in the Fall, but it's 
still gonna be a matter of get it if u want it when we have it.
More and more it's going to be (as DP...) bikes, bags, essential hardware, 
and of course a smattering of quirky groovy fun essential things that have 
no parallel in the real world but still make sense. Splats-like things.
Anyway, i feel yourzhallzis's pain, and we're doing better now than then, 
so please please please keep giving us a shot...inventory levels are 
excellent right now and have been for a month and should be ongoing...but 
the scope may be smaller.

G



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:01:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> OK, so I'm no longer a big bike spender, but I do own three Riv bikes and 
> feel some loyalty to the company.  At 73 all I need are replacement parts. 
>   I haven't ordered anything from RBW in two years because every time I try 
> to put in an order half of what I need is out of stock.  
>
> It's finally Spring in Vt and this week I pulled all the bikes out of the 
> basement, cleaned & tuned them up.  I made a list of the replacement parts 
> I needed, which was really very short - new HB tape and one tire.  Of 
> course I can always use cleaner and lube so added them in, then threw in a 
> chain guard for the Rambouillet.  Went to the RBW site and discovered that 
> the tire I wanted was out of stock, as was the chain guard.  Not much point 
> in putting in an order for HB tape and two items I can buy anywhere
>
> VO has the tire (650b X 38 skin wall) and HB  tape, so once again no sale 
> for RBW.
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[René Sterental]

Hi all,

I'm going to go to Washington DC for 5 days next week for a meeting, and
was wondering if it's worth bringing my Bike Friday with me to get some
nice early morning rides. I'll be staying at the Renaissance Hotel
Downtown, and all rides would have to start/finish at the hotel, although I
could get an Uber to go somewhere and put the bike in the trunk as an
option as well.

What do the locals recommend? Any nice rides, not in the middle of traffic
that would be worth doing? Any riding trails in the area worth exploring?
Most of my potential rides would likely be 60-90 minutes long at most.

Thanks for any suggestions and recommendations,

René

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Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Patrick Moore]

I used to commute 30 rt west-east across town, with 7 miles uphill from the
river to Juan Tabo, often extending one or both legs by 5 miles N/S along a
nice bike path. Yes, it's easy to overdo it, and as I got older (I did this
from ~ 1996 to 2008; 41 to 53) I slowed down considerably. Back in the
early days when my inbound commute was 16 miles across Rt 66 with 7 miles
of gradual climbing on a 67" or 70" fixed, I'd average 54-60 minutes
regularly, clock running, and all too often feel beat up. From about 2004
on, I slowed down considerably, 15 mile ver slower route * at 12-13 mph
clock running, and it was much more tolerable. I even tried combining
riding with the express bus to/from the university, but that was slower
than riding the entire route.

*I used to simply ride 'cross-town along Route 66 from Atrisco to Juan
Tabo; afterward I went through the university and fair grounds, or took
other detours with less, and slower, traffic.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> My round trip work commute, least miles, is 30 miles. Every year I work up
> to coupla times per week but usually can’t do more as i never recover fast
> enough for some reason. I do shorter rides in between. Restaurant runs, etc.
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[RBW] Bay Area Stolen Wheel Alert

[Chris Corral]

Hey All, 

I recently had a pretty unique wheel stolen off my bike in San Francisco. 
It was a 26" 40 hole Velocity Cliffhanger to Velocity Tandem ATB Hub. A 
26x1.75"  Schwalbe Marathon (or Marathon Plus?) tire was mounted. I checked 
the East Bay flea markets last week, and while there were plenty of car 
stereos and an Alfine rear wheel (anyone missing a silver Alfine 8?) my 
wheel was not there. I am also keeping a constant eye on craigslist. FWIW, 
they also took a no-name white saddle with a fake SUPREME hat mounted on it.

Perhaps the thieves will sit on it for a few weeks or months. Perhaps it 
will go on a 700c bike with no brakes. Maybe it will sit in a pile of other 
trashed wheels under a highway. Who knows.

Just sending out a PSA. Let me know if it spotted.

Thank you.
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Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

[Patrick Moore]

BTW: fixing goathead flats if you don't use sealant: you have to be sure to
pick out all the broken-off thorn tips before you re-install the patched
tube, otherwise you'll get another flat in very short order.

Technique: inspect tread; if you see the little, pale "dot", fold the tread
between your fingers and "roll" it to work out the tip.

Run your thumb around the inside of the casing; you can feel tips that you
can't see. If you locate one, use the "pinch and roll" or "massage" method
to work it out.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 10:56 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I'm working for a few months in Casa Grande, AZ, about halfway between
> Phoenix and Tucson, in the valley. I've got 3 bikes here, so I'm going to
> pull the fenders off my Homer (which has become really fun with Albatross
> bars) and put some wide (38-42mm) tires. It will be my around town, out to
> the mountain, dirt canal path (maybe even a dirt century), light gravel
> bike. I don't think I want Compass because, although I love them, I'm a
> heavy rider and the rear Compass on my MAP wore out after 1500 miles. I
> think they're too fragile. And I discovered goatheads yesterday on the
> Hunqapillar. Patrick Moore, I think I honestly thought that I would be that
> guy from the Midwest who came out here and didn't use sealant and didn't
> get a flat. WRONG!!! Rear flat on the Hunqapillar. The the the goathead was
> still all there. I didn't see the other four spots with just the slivers.
> I got sealant and new tubes at the bike shop for the 700x2.1 Thunder Burts.
> It was a huge mess. The first tube went ok but I guess I took too long on
> the second and and it kept clogging and spewing and and what did go in
> oozed back out. I think I'd just as soon not use it again but if the
> consensus of the group is that I must, then I will. So, which tough tire
> with no sealant. Or convince me to use sealant.
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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Chris Corral]

Wow! Excellent route. Good work!

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:01:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> Back at the very beginning of my Rivendell career, in 2009, I was pretty 
> much strictly a roadie.  My Hillborne and the idea of "country bike" opened 
> up my world in many ways.  One of those ways was the idea of enjoying 
> taking the long way from A-to-B.  Over that first year or so I hatched an 
> idea for my 40-mile commute from El Cerrito to Union City.  Rather than 
> treat it as a hilly road ride with a couple dirt trail detours, I 
> contemplated doing it as a 25 mile mountain bike ride with a few road 
> connectors.  I had most of the route in my head, but there were still 
> several trails that I needed to add but had never ridden.  Now that I have 
> a cool GPS unit, I was able to build my route on RideWithGPS and upload it 
> to my device so I wouldn't get lost and wouldn't have to resort to the map 
> 50 times.  
>
> Anyhow, here's my route, discreetly edited to begin at a starting point 
> close-by but not-too-close to my front door.  RideWithGPS Extreme 
> Commuting 
>
> I did the ride for the first time this morning, which felt like a cool 
> accomplishment, since I'd been thinking about it for several years.  It was 
> ~42 miles and about 4700 feet of climbing, and it was pretty freaking 
> hard.  There were several pitches that my GPS assessed as >20% grade.  
> There were rocky, bumpy, rooty sections that made my BMC Monstercross feel 
> like serious underbiking.  The undeniable highlight is that these mountain 
> bike trails are by definition car-free, and that was delightful.  I might 
> decide to do the SFRandonneurs Marin Mountains 200k as a solo Permanent in 
> May, and this Extreme Commute route is a great training ride for that.  
>
>
> 
>
> This was one of the 20% grades, which is hard to see in the photo.  My 
> four finger salute was to celebrate passing 4,000 ft of climbing at this 
> point.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> So, make a plan, set a goal, see it through and celebrate
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito CA
>
> P.S. One of the reasons I was able to pedal up 20% grades was I just 
> installed my turkey vulture shifter kit from Analog Cycles, which allowed 
> me to run a Deore XT clutch rear derailer with Shimano 10sp indexed barcons 
> (on Thumbies).  I was glad to have a 26x36 low gear.  
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Deacon Patrick]

Jonathan, I used this one: 
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Endurance-Training-Racing/dp/1616080655/ref=sr_1_1?s=books=UTF8=1524757124=1-1=phil+maffetone+books

Near as I can tell, any of his books will have his approach, they just have a 
different target audience. Same content, aimed a different direction with 
slightly different emphasis and new, often peripheral, info in the newer ones.

One can geek out on heart rate monitoring. I did it all wrong. I occationally 
checked my heart rate with a phone app, got a feel for what aerobic felt like 
and haven’t taken my pulse since. That was years ago. I ride to enjoy, not to 
race, so I’m not looking to eek out every bit, just not drive myself into the 
ground. Seems to be working. I ride my 5 miles to the trail heads, see folks 
(20-50 years old) who drove their bouncy bikes there, they take off past me, 
but I catch them within a mile or two, them bent double, me just cranking along 
up the hill. When I shifted, however, it was very frustrating, because I felt 
like I couldn’t move at all without my heart rate going too high. My body had 
to recover from constantly being anaerobic. That took time. Works a charm 
though!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

[Patrick Moore]

I realized I contradict myself on frequency. Forget the numbers; they're
more or less metaphorical -- metaphors for the more accurate qualitative
statements like "a lot" and "fewer".

Big Apple: flats rare. If you can tolerate 1 flat/week in a bad week, this
is the tire for you. I speak of the BAs from ~2000 up to about 2010.
Kojak: more often, but still can be shrugged off. I'd ride these today if
there were not Orange Seal.
Skinnies: more often yet, but by surprisingly few, and worth it for the
ride (Turbos, Pro Races, and GPs, in that order, rolled fast and smoothly
for their width at 80/90). Ditto.
Heavy Paselas: Like the skinnies.
559 1.25 Pasela: pretty bad, but tolerated for ride on wider tire.
PR and Elk Pass: impossible.

Again, standard is someone who routinely went through more than 1 box of
100 Remas a year, and bought them in lots of 200.



On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Tim: It all depends how many flats/week you can tolerate. I rode the
> following tires in ABQ, NM without getting more than 3-5 flats over 60-100
> miles/week. I routinely went through a box and a half to 2 boxes of Remas
> per year.
>
> Listed in order of goathead resistance.
>
> Big Apple, 26 X 2.35 and 29 X 2.35. Almost goathead proof; rarely got
> punctured on dirt. I've come off a dirt trail and brushed literally scores
> of goatheads off each tire, then ridden away with no air loss over the
> following 24 hours.
> 26 and 700C 1.35" Kojak. Best "road" tire.
> Specialized Fatboy and Tioga City Slicker, early to late '90s. As with
> Kojaks, but perhaps goatheads less common pre-2010.
> Conti Grand Prix, early 2000s models, 559 X 1, 650C X 23. Not much worse
> than the Kojaks; say 5-6/week over 100 miles instead of 3.
> Michelin Pro Race 3 and 4: perhaps slightly more prone, but not by much.
> Specialized 26 X 1 Turbo, very early 90s: surprisingly flat "avoiding" for
> its supple ride -- nicer than GP and even Pro Race. But I used these only
> in the early '90s when, perhaps, goatheads were not quite as common.
> Heavier duty Paselas: more flat prone than Kojaks; anticipate 5/week.
> 26 X 1.25 folding, non-TG Pasela: flat prone; flats every other ride.
> Parigi Roubaix: 5 flats in first 20 miles. This is what made me go out and
> buy my first bottle of Stan's.
>
> The Big Apple is the safest non-sealant, halfway decent rolling tire I've
> used. The Kojak is tolerable for flats.
>
> I daresay the Elk Pass (el) would fare much like the PR.
>
> In other news: Schwalbe rep says 559 X 28 Pro One measures 28 mm +, even
> 20 mm, on 15 mm inside rim it was designed for; may try a pair, and may try
> them tubeless.
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 10:56 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm working for a few months in Casa Grande, AZ, about halfway between
>> Phoenix and Tucson, in the valley. I've got 3 bikes here, so I'm going to
>> pull the fenders off my Homer (which has become really fun with Albatross
>> bars) and put some wide (38-42mm) tires. It will be my around town, out to
>> the mountain, dirt canal path (maybe even a dirt century), light gravel
>> bike. I don't think I want Compass because, although I love them, I'm a
>> heavy rider and the rear Compass on my MAP wore out after 1500 miles. I
>> think they're too fragile. And I discovered goatheads yesterday on the
>> Hunqapillar. Patrick Moore, I think I honestly thought that I would be that
>> guy from the Midwest who came out here and didn't use sealant and didn't
>> get a flat. WRONG!!! Rear flat on the Hunqapillar. The the the goathead was
>> still all there. I didn't see the other four spots with just the slivers.
>> I got sealant and new tubes at the bike shop for the 700x2.1 Thunder Burts.
>> It was a huge mess. The first tube went ok but I guess I took too long on
>> the second and and it kept clogging and spewing and and what did go in
>> oozed back out. I think I'd just as soon not use it again but if the
>> consensus of the group is that I must, then I will. So, which tough tire
>> with no sealant. Or convince me to use sealant.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

[Patrick Moore]

Tim -- one more remark after I actually read through your query. Adding
sealant to tubes is easy, if you take it step by step, have all materials
at hand, and pay attention to what you are doing. I always have to wipe up
a few drops, but that is certainly worth the benefit.

I've added sealant to many tubes with "non-removable" cores; you just force
off the locknut to let the core drop into the tube, where you catch it and
pinch-hold it at the bottom of the stem. Even if the core gets lost in the
abyss of the tube, it's easy, at least with the tubes I've used (2" and 1")
to find it by feel and work it back into place.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 10:56 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I'm working for a few months in Casa Grande, AZ, about halfway between
> Phoenix and Tucson, in the valley. I've got 3 bikes here, so I'm going to
> pull the fenders off my Homer (which has become really fun with Albatross
> bars) and put some wide (38-42mm) tires. It will be my around town, out to
> the mountain, dirt canal path (maybe even a dirt century), light gravel
> bike. I don't think I want Compass because, although I love them, I'm a
> heavy rider and the rear Compass on my MAP wore out after 1500 miles. I
> think they're too fragile. And I discovered goatheads yesterday on the
> Hunqapillar. Patrick Moore, I think I honestly thought that I would be that
> guy from the Midwest who came out here and didn't use sealant and didn't
> get a flat. WRONG!!! Rear flat on the Hunqapillar. The the the goathead was
> still all there. I didn't see the other four spots with just the slivers.
> I got sealant and new tubes at the bike shop for the 700x2.1 Thunder Burts.
> It was a huge mess. The first tube went ok but I guess I took too long on
> the second and and it kept clogging and spewing and and what did go in
> oozed back out. I think I'd just as soon not use it again but if the
> consensus of the group is that I must, then I will. So, which tough tire
> with no sealant. Or convince me to use sealant.
>
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Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

[Patrick Moore]

Tim: It all depends how many flats/week you can tolerate. I rode the
following tires in ABQ, NM without getting more than 3-5 flats over 60-100
miles/week. I routinely went through a box and a half to 2 boxes of Remas
per year.

Listed in order of goathead resistance.

Big Apple, 26 X 2.35 and 29 X 2.35. Almost goathead proof; rarely got
punctured on dirt. I've come off a dirt trail and brushed literally scores
of goatheads off each tire, then ridden away with no air loss over the
following 24 hours.
26 and 700C 1.35" Kojak. Best "road" tire.
Specialized Fatboy and Tioga City Slicker, early to late '90s. As with
Kojaks, but perhaps goatheads less common pre-2010.
Conti Grand Prix, early 2000s models, 559 X 1, 650C X 23. Not much worse
than the Kojaks; say 5-6/week over 100 miles instead of 3.
Michelin Pro Race 3 and 4: perhaps slightly more prone, but not by much.
Specialized 26 X 1 Turbo, very early 90s: surprisingly flat "avoiding" for
its supple ride -- nicer than GP and even Pro Race. But I used these only
in the early '90s when, perhaps, goatheads were not quite as common.
Heavier duty Paselas: more flat prone than Kojaks; anticipate 5/week.
26 X 1.25 folding, non-TG Pasela: flat prone; flats every other ride.
Parigi Roubaix: 5 flats in first 20 miles. This is what made me go out and
buy my first bottle of Stan's.

The Big Apple is the safest non-sealant, halfway decent rolling tire I've
used. The Kojak is tolerable for flats.

I daresay the Elk Pass (el) would fare much like the PR.

In other news: Schwalbe rep says 559 X 28 Pro One measures 28 mm +, even 20
mm, on 15 mm inside rim it was designed for; may try a pair, and may try
them tubeless.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 10:56 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> I'm working for a few months in Casa Grande, AZ, about halfway between
> Phoenix and Tucson, in the valley. I've got 3 bikes here, so I'm going to
> pull the fenders off my Homer (which has become really fun with Albatross
> bars) and put some wide (38-42mm) tires. It will be my around town, out to
> the mountain, dirt canal path (maybe even a dirt century), light gravel
> bike. I don't think I want Compass because, although I love them, I'm a
> heavy rider and the rear Compass on my MAP wore out after 1500 miles. I
> think they're too fragile. And I discovered goatheads yesterday on the
> Hunqapillar. Patrick Moore, I think I honestly thought that I would be that
> guy from the Midwest who came out here and didn't use sealant and didn't
> get a flat. WRONG!!! Rear flat on the Hunqapillar. The the the goathead was
> still all there. I didn't see the other four spots with just the slivers.
> I got sealant and new tubes at the bike shop for the 700x2.1 Thunder Burts.
> It was a huge mess. The first tube went ok but I guess I took too long on
> the second and and it kept clogging and spewing and and what did go in
> oozed back out. I think I'd just as soon not use it again but if the
> consensus of the group is that I must, then I will. So, which tough tire
> with no sealant. Or convince me to use sealant.
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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

[William R.]

Oh man... I like that so much! I can't deal. My wife's going to kill me...

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yeah, me too.

I responded to their request to 'please buy something to save the 
company'.  Everything (*I sorta wanted*) was out of stock.  I check weekly, 
but some stuff has been out of stock forever.  
Bike packing has become huge. I would think that some Rivendell rackless 
bikepacking bags would sell well, as well as a plus tired Hunqa. Creativity 
in their stock is needed. Needs a refresh.

Clayton
#DirtDanceDesigns

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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Hey there Michael - 

I've had this occur for a couple of things recently, as RBW builds 
inventory back up. 

However, in both cases, I just used the "Email me when this is available" 
option on the site and curiously, both items popped up as available within 
a couple days. For me, it's worth waiting for a new set of JB's... 

anyway - I suspect as we get into the volume months and cash flow calms 
back down, things will be better.

keep on riding!

- Jim



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:01:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> OK, so I'm no longer a big bike spender, but I do own three Riv bikes and 
> feel some loyalty to the company.  At 73 all I need are replacement parts. 
>   I haven't ordered anything from RBW in two years because every time I try 
> to put in an order half of what I need is out of stock.  
>
> It's finally Spring in Vt and this week I pulled all the bikes out of the 
> basement, cleaned & tuned them up.  I made a list of the replacement parts 
> I needed, which was really very short - new HB tape and one tire.  Of 
> course I can always use cleaner and lube so added them in, then threw in a 
> chain guard for the Rambouillet.  Went to the RBW site and discovered that 
> the tire I wanted was out of stock, as was the chain guard.  Not much point 
> in putting in an order for HB tape and two items I can buy anywhere
>
> VO has the tire (650b X 38 skin wall) and HB  tape, so once again no sale 
> for RBW.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Hey there Tim - 

Hopefully this will help other members as well. 

You have full posting permissions as far as this group is concerned.  
There's no other switch I can throw to make this work better. 

The issue is your yahoo email address.  As noted in the error message you 
are seeing, there's either some flag on that account (common from yahoo due 
to the repeated hacks) or google is just taking a more stringent position 
on letting yahoo email addresses in general go through their DM system.

That's sort of a nebulous "fix" they propose - there's not likely to be any 
response if you ask yahoo for help, but at least you could try that. 

Might be simpler to create a new email address.

- Jim / admin 

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:45:53 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> This is the message I get whenever I reply privately to author in desktop.
>
>
> [image: Error Icon]
> Message blocked
> Your message to  has been blocked. See technical 
> details below for more information.
> LEARN MORE 
> The response was:
>
> Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's 
> DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of yahoo.com domain if 
> this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the DMARC 
> initiative. l7-v6sor1240562otf.147 - gsmtp
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I lost out on a set of Bon Jon tires trying to reply directly to the 
>> poster. I've lost out on several items this way.  If you're on a Mac, the 
>> only option to reply directly to the poster is by switching to "Desktop", 
>> which then gives you the option to reply directly. I've done this several 
>> times and I get an email reply (always either several hours later or in my 
>> spam folder) that my reply has been rejected. By then, someone has already 
>> bought the item. Yes, I get the email digest, in which the posters entire 
>> email address is listed (even on the desktop version, on a Mac or iPhone, 
>> the email address is only partial, thus of no use) but by the time it 
>> comes, the item is usually sold. I guess my point is that I will always 
>> have to reply on list to any for sale post, if I hope to have a chance at 
>> the item. So please understand that I'm not ignoring your request to be 
>> contacted offline because I'm a dick (although, undoubtedly I am at times) 
>> it's because I want the item and can't get it any other way. 
>>
>> Peace, 
>> Tim "now in Casa Grande, AZ and learning about goatheads" Kirch
>
>

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[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

[Bob K.]

Tim, you may need to set up a Google account for it to work right. I'm not 
certain on this, though.

Bob K. in Baltimore

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:45:53 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
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[RBW] Re: Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Goatheads?Like riding on a carpet of thumb tacks.  

Clayton 
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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

[Joe Bernard]

There's a new pic on the Blug of the swoopytube Atlantis. It kinda looks like 
an ANT Truss Bike with a sloping toptube. 

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Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Jonathan D.]

Great job Bill. I feel good about my 5 mile commute. 

Patrick - What book from Phil should I start with?

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Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

[Tim Gavin]

Tim-

You didn't specify which size wheels your Homer wears.  The smaller frames
are 650b.

For a tire that is a little burlier than Compass but still pretty
fast-rolling, I recommend the Panaracer Gravel King.  It's available in 650
and 700, in various width.  It comes with a file tread, or with a
semi-knobby (SK) tread.  And, it's a lot cheaper (~$40) than Compass tires.

https://www.panaracer.com/lineup/gravel.html

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Kainalu V.  wrote:

> Sealant rules everwhere. You're putting sealant in a deflated tube, yes?
> And removing the valve core when you do? I've been having good luck with
> the clogging problem by giving the valves a shot of boeshield before I
> replace them. I ride in NYC everyday which, while not being filled with
> goatheads, is pretty hard on tires. I run Schwalbe Big Ones tubeless on
> bike A with occasional refills of sealant. Bike B's got Thunder Burts with
> sealant in tubes and they've been absolutely trouble free for months.
> Before sealant I was plagued with flats, now it's a memory.
> Enjoy goathead country!
> -Kai
> BK NY
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[RBW] WTB: IRD NeedL BlastR 1" Threaded HS

[Conway Bennett]

Rivs out.  I wanted to use my Hail Mary $$$.  Maybe someone here bought one for 
a false start project?  Thanks in advance.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway
www.ChicaGoByBoat.com
833.312.BOAT
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[RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

[Kainalu V.]

Sealant rules everwhere. You're putting sealant in a deflated tube, yes? And 
removing the valve core when you do? I've been having good luck with the 
clogging problem by giving the valves a shot of boeshield before I replace 
them. I ride in NYC everyday which, while not being filled with goatheads, is 
pretty hard on tires. I run Schwalbe Big Ones tubeless on bike A with 
occasional refills of sealant. Bike B's got Thunder Burts with sealant in tubes 
and they've been absolutely trouble free for months. Before sealant I was 
plagued with flats, now it's a memory. 
Enjoy goathead country!
-Kai
BK NY 

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Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Tim Butterfield]

Great job on the commute.  Mine is less than 30 feet, so no riding for me.

I second what Patrick said and recommend getting one of Phil’s books.
Something to keep in mind that I have discovered with his formula, if
you’re over about 50 or so, you might need to add a bpm or several to make
up for age skew.

One formula is roughly this:
Level of effort X duration = recovery time

If you can decrease either level of effort or duration, you will likely
recover faster.  As Patrick mentioned, a big factor in this is how much
above or below your aerobic threshold your level of effort is.  If you can
stay comfortably below that threshold, your recovery times will greatly
reduce.  Also, if you can convert to burning more fats than sugars as Phil
discusses, you can really minimize recovery times or greatly extend
durations.  One giant benefit of this, the more you do at that lower level
of effort, the faster you can get at that level.  It’s a bit more nuanced
than that with building a base before ramping up a level, etc., but that’s
the overall effect of it.

Have fun with the experiments.

Tim



On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 6:19 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> My round trip work commute, least miles, is 30 miles. Every year I work up
> to coupla times per week but usually can’t do more as i never recover fast
> enough for some reason. I do shorter rides in between. Restaurant runs, etc.
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