date:20190926

Oh, first ride report: Light, maneuverable but tracks straight and true, super 
fun. It's a Rivendell!

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations on cycling to Rivendell and around San Francisco and the Bay Area

2019-09-26 Thread Ana Candela

Thank you all for your recommendations. I have been incorporating them into my 
planning, and now I just gave the final touches to prepping my bike. I am 
thinking of doing most of your suggestions, or as much as I can. I’ll be sure 
to post photos. Evan: I won’t be able to make it to the pancake ride, as I’ll 
be back home by then, but thank you!

If you see a purple Riv cruising in the Bay Area, wave or ring your bell or 
both!   

-Ana

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Re: [RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

Oh: 57 mm max calipers, single pivots. Open Pros on the Ram, 19 and 21s
(outside) on the Road, but tire measurements are actual.

(That should read "31-32" of course.)

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 9:08 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Not a Roadeo, but a 2nd iteration Rambouillet: 35-labled/31-22-actual
> Kojaks under SKS fenders, with sufficient air. Heck, I've done similar with
> one of my road customs, which I am pretty sure has less clearance than the
> Ram did.
>
> I *think* that the Roadeo has similar clearances, no?
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:07 PM John G.  wrote:
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>> RBWOBers,
>>
>> Have any of you Roadeo owners managed to install fenders AND 32mm tires?
>> If so, what's the trick (aside from a tolerance for scant clearance)?
>> Centerpull brakes? Skinny rims? Tires that aren't actually 32mm?
>>
>> Post your advice, please!
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Re: [RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

Not a Roadeo, but a 2nd iteration Rambouillet: 35-labled/31-22-actual
Kojaks under SKS fenders, with sufficient air. Heck, I've done similar with
one of my road customs, which I am pretty sure has less clearance than the
Ram did.

I *think* that the Roadeo has similar clearances, no?

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> RBWOBers,
>
> Have any of you Roadeo owners managed to install fenders AND 32mm tires?
> If so, what's the trick (aside from a tolerance for scant clearance)?
> Centerpull brakes? Skinny rims? Tires that aren't actually 32mm?
>
> Post your advice, please!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

Leah:  If you ever try some really nice tires, you will surprised at how
fast and smooth -- both together -- they feel at moderate pressures. This
advice from someone who used to pump his 35 mm Fatboys to 120 psi because
the sidewall told me to do that.

Even the Schwalbe Kojaks (I used the 32-real/35-labeled in 3 different
diameters, but they also come in a 50 mm width, I think) are sufficiently
more nice than, say, Marathon Racers that you can get by with a much lower
pressure before they start feeling as if you are riding in cold, cold
molasses. IME, nice tires have a wider range between "hard" and "bounce",
and between "fast" and "bow wow."

OTOH, when my daughter last had a bike, it had (1) cheap, stiff tires, (2)
thorn proof tubes -- these weighed as much as the tires; (3) a heavy tire
liner; (4) a bucket full of Slime in each tube. I tried reducing pressure
to, oh perhaps 35 psi where they belonged; molasses. Pumped them right up
again to "rock hard."

But that's with tires that are inferior by any standard except perhaps
puncture resistance and price.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:59 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine
> and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps
> and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I
> know...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>Well that's interesting PM !  I prolly weigh more/less in the same
> ballpark and I first tried the BB @ 25-30 psi but found the rear(Rhyno Lite
> rim) a bit bouncy on the road, and the front felt like it was gonna roll
> off the rim(25mm Mavic) when I leaned hard into corners.  Felt like is one
> story, actuality is another though and I wasn't in the mood to find out.  I
> suspect that sense of rollover though is from the large round profile
> tires, something I've never ridden before.  Off road I would go much lower
> though as these are not pleasant at 35 psi. !   I have lots of steep curvy
> roads around here
>
>On my "road" bike I run some Forte Metro 35mm tires @ 35-40 psi,
> sometimes less, and they feel awesome, though the 531ST tubing, long
> wheelbase and relaxed angles all help.
>
>
> Quite seriously, I don't want to step on Garth's or any one else's toes,
>> but I'm 175 lb and I ran 50 mm tires, and paper thin ones at that (Furious
>> Freds, 360 grams each) at 20 psi on dirt, sub 30 on pavement. 60s if stiff
>> sidewalled Big Apples at 16-17 dirt and about 21 pavement, supple ones
>> 18-20 dirt, 25-6 pavement (generally, I just leave them at the lower
>> pressure unless I take an extended pavement ride). I just found that when I
>> pump my 28 mm Compass extralights rock hard, the digital gauge reads 51
>> psi; should run them at 45. I put 80 f/90 rear in supple 22 mm tires. All
>> this often includes freight loads up to 40 lbs.
>>
>> Don't overfill! Pinch flats -- I *never* get pinch flats for some reason
>> -- can be avoided by being just a very little bit careful.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Saddles - B67 in Honey $80 shipped; B17 Standard in Black, $60 shipped

2019-09-26 Thread 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch

PM Sent. If available I'll take it.

Thanks,
Mark Etze

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[RBW] Re: Saddle and Related Sale

2019-09-26 Thread Tim Bantham

Hi John, I'd be interested in taking a look at photos for both of those 
saddles if you haven't sold them yet. I'll let you know after I get a look 
at them. 

Tim

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:24:01 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
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> I have excess saddles that need new homes. Nothing wrong with em just 
> going in a different direction
>
> Vintage Ideale Model 90. In really excellent vintage condition. Perfect 
> for a vintage touring bike. $125
>
> Brooks Pro. New (one short ride). Brown, steel rivets chrome rails $60
>
> Brooks B17 good used condition Brown, steel rivets,black rails.  $40
>
> Salsa 27.2 mm seat post, dual bolt, black. $20
>
> Nitto seat bag mount / quick release.   $75
>
> If you are interested private message me and I’ll forward pictures. 
>
> All prices plus usps shipping. 
>
> John
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[RBW] Recommended Painters in Eastern US

2019-09-26 Thread Fullylugged

Nathan Barnes in Pelham, AL has done excellent work for me on 2 bikes with good 
turn around and afordable pricing. nbarnes2339 at yahoo dot com if you want to 
get in contact.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Saddles - B67 in Honey $80 shipped; B17 Standard in Black, $60 shipped

2019-09-26 Thread Ed Carolipio

B17S is available (local sale fell through). B67 is sold.

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> Selling a couple of saddles that I won't ever use and may be of interest 
> to members of the group:
>
>- *B67 in Honey with Silver springs and Black Rails* - Bought new, 
>tried it out for maybe 40 miles but the saddle just doesn't work with my 
>anatomy. I treated it with Proofide when new. More photos at this Google 
>drive link 
>. 
>(Sorry about the out-of-focus ones.) *$80 shipped*
>- *B17 Standard in Black with Black rails *-   Bought new, one of 
>several I own so I *think* I may have ridden this one for a couple of 
>hundred miles. My bikes are always parked indoors, and I maintained the 
>saddle with Proofide. More photos at this Google drive link 
>. *$60 
>shipped*
>
> *Price for both is $130 shipped* (since my shipping cost would be less). 
> Both saddles come with a wrench and a sample packet of Proofide. Shipping 
> is via USPS Priority Mail, and payment is via Paypal Goods and Services 
> (I'll cover the fees). Contact off list if interested or if you have 
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed C.
>
> [image: DSCN4102.jpeg][image: IMG_7068.jpeg]
>
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[RBW] Recommended Painters in Eastern US

2019-09-26 Thread tc

For those that have had frames painted in the Eastern US, can you recommend 
a painter?  Anyone to stay away from?

Thanks,
Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-26 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck

Just posted more pics from last Saturday's Riv meetup:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B25OMo9lm2k/

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

https://photos.app.goo.gl/66TU9Ue4aGPijKyu9

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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

Yep, I usually run between the two numbers, or if there's only a maximum I'll 
go 10-15 under it. My bones are older than Leah's and less tolerant of rattling 


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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread in Dallas nick

I'm in the market for a set of 650b / 27.5 tires also .
I'm considering these Maxxis Refuse , size 27.5 x 2.0In a folding tire at 610 
grams,  not a terrible weight
for a 2" wide tire and not too high on price at 42 bucks each.
I've had good luck with other Maxxis tires.Shows double puncture protection on 
these Refuse.
It reminds me of the tread on my 700x42 Continental Contact Speed tires that 
roll nice and have good flat resistance. My riding buddy and I have 2 pairs 
each.
If they came in a 650b I'd get a pair.Dang , I just found they do come in a 
27.5 x 2!
This discussion has helped me also. Thanks!
Maxxis 
Refusehttps://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=83492


Continental Contact Speed 
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=92314

Good luck on your hunt for the right tires for you.
Does anyone else split the difference between the minimum and maximum PSI 
inflation recommendation on the side of the tire?
Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread David Bivins

Leah, I'm the same. I pump them up!

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 5:15 PM Garth  wrote:

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>   It doesn't matter what pressure Leah ... you're enjoying the ride and
> that's all that matters. Rules are for foolz !
>
>
> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine
>> and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps
>> and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I
>> know...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [RBW] Re: 58Double top tube for sale

2019-09-26 Thread Jon Dukeman

Let me know. I can throw in. Front Jannd extreme rack and basket. If you
like.
Jon

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> Oh man! Very tempting. I am going to have to think on this.
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[RBW] All Rounder

2019-09-26 Thread in Dallas nick

A beautiful bike indeed!My all time favorite Riv color.
Enjoy. 
Paul in Dallas 

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[RBW] Re: 58Double top tube for sale

2019-09-26 Thread Grady Wright

Oh man! Very tempting. I am going to have to think on this. 
On Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:19:05 UTC-6, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine


  It doesn't matter what pressure Leah ... you're enjoying the ride and 
that's all that matters. Rules are for foolz !


On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine 
> and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps 
> and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I 
> know...
>
> Sent from my iPad
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[RBW] 58 double top tube Sam for sale

2019-09-26 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado

58 Sam Hillborne double top tube for sale
new 2014 , not a scratch, never used for commuting or left outside in rain 
or over night.
Highlights: Phil Wood BB
Paul seat post 27.2
Mavic A 319 silver rims with 14-15 DT spokes, Deore XT hubs 36H
Dura -Ace 9 spd bar end shifters mounted on Paul thumbies
Brooks B 17 honey
Brooks leather bar tape Honey
Nitto AL Albatross Bar with Nitto 110 stem
SKS P45 cream fenders
MKS Pedals
Pletcher Rear Rack w/pannier rails
Tektra 559 side pull brakes/ Shimano levers.
Shimano Deore XT  9spd shadow derailleur 
Sugino triple cranka
Claris Fr. Derailleur
700C x 38 Little Big Ben tires
$ 1600.00 in Denver / Colorado Springs 
PHOTOS TO FOLLOW

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[RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

2019-09-26 Thread John G.

RBWOBers,

Have any of you Roadeo owners managed to install fenders AND 32mm tires? If 
so, what's the trick (aside from a tolerance for scant clearance)? 
Centerpull brakes? Skinny rims? Tires that aren't actually 32mm? 

Post your advice, please!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Leah Peterson

Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine and 
ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps and stay 
in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I know...

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>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>Well that's interesting PM !  I prolly weigh more/less in the same 
> ballpark and I first tried the BB @ 25-30 psi but found the rear(Rhyno Lite 
> rim) a bit bouncy on the road, and the front felt like it was gonna roll off 
> the rim(25mm Mavic) when I leaned hard into corners.  Felt like is one story, 
> actuality is another though and I wasn't in the mood to find out.  I suspect 
> that sense of rollover though is from the large round profile tires, 
> something I've never ridden before.  Off road I would go much lower though as 
> these are not pleasant at 35 psi. !   I have lots of steep curvy roads around 
> here
> 
>On my "road" bike I run some Forte Metro 35mm tires @ 35-40 psi, sometimes 
> less, and they feel awesome, though the 531ST tubing, long wheelbase and 
> relaxed angles all help. 
> 
> 
>> Quite seriously, I don't want to step on Garth's or any one else's toes, but 
>> I'm 175 lb and I ran 50 mm tires, and paper thin ones at that (Furious 
>> Freds, 360 grams each) at 20 psi on dirt, sub 30 on pavement. 60s if stiff 
>> sidewalled Big Apples at 16-17 dirt and about 21 pavement, supple ones 18-20 
>> dirt, 25-6 pavement (generally, I just leave them at the lower pressure 
>> unless I take an extended pavement ride). I just found that when I pump my 
>> 28 mm Compass extralights rock hard, the digital gauge reads 51 psi; should 
>> run them at 45. I put 80 f/90 rear in supple 22 mm tires. All this often 
>> includes freight loads up to 40 lbs.
>> 
>> Don't overfill! Pinch flats -- I never get pinch flats for some reason -- 
>> can be avoided by being just a very little bit careful.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine



   Well that's interesting PM !  I prolly weigh more/less in the same 
ballpark and I first tried the BB @ 25-30 psi but found the rear(Rhyno Lite 
rim) a bit bouncy on the road, and the front felt like it was gonna roll 
off the rim(25mm Mavic) when I leaned hard into corners.  Felt like is one 
story, actuality is another though and I wasn't in the mood to find out.  I 
suspect that sense of rollover though is from the large round profile 
tires, something I've never ridden before.  Off road I would go much lower 
though as these are not pleasant at 35 psi. !   I have lots of steep curvy 
roads around here

   On my "road" bike I run some Forte Metro 35mm tires @ 35-40 psi, 
sometimes less, and they feel awesome, though the 531ST tubing, long 
wheelbase and relaxed angles all help. 


Quite seriously, I don't want to step on Garth's or any one else's toes, 
> but I'm 175 lb and I ran 50 mm tires, and paper thin ones at that (Furious 
> Freds, 360 grams each) at 20 psi on dirt, sub 30 on pavement. 60s if stiff 
> sidewalled Big Apples at 16-17 dirt and about 21 pavement, supple ones 
> 18-20 dirt, 25-6 pavement (generally, I just leave them at the lower 
> pressure unless I take an extended pavement ride). I just found that when I 
> pump my 28 mm Compass extralights rock hard, the digital gauge reads 51 
> psi; should run them at 45. I put 80 f/90 rear in supple 22 mm tires. All 
> this often includes freight loads up to 40 lbs.
>
> Don't overfill! Pinch flats -- I *never* get pinch flats for some reason 
> -- can be avoided by being just a very little bit careful.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

Be careful about buying Schwalbe Big Apple tires.  For many years (well 
over 15 IIRC) I had a pair of Schwalbe Big Apple 26x2.35" tires on my Surly 
1x1 and I loved everything about them.  They finally came to the end of the 
road this Summer when I rode across a stretch of pavement where 
construction workers had pulled the nails out of wooden forms for an 
adjacent concrete sidewalk and carelessly left them lying all over the 
place.  So I went to buy a new pair on-line and due to unclear and evasive 
descriptions of Schwalbe models I wound up mistakenly ordering a pair of 
2.15" Big Apple Plus tires.  They're ridiculously heavy (>750 gm's) and 
they ride like motorcycle tires due to the 3mm of protection guard.  Wish 
I'd been more careful

P.S.  If anyone out there is more interested in flat-proofness than ride 
quality I'd be willing to sell these tires for cheap.

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:29:51 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Ok, Friends, you’ve got me interested in the Schwalbe tires, and of those, 
> I think the Big Ben and the Big Apples sound good. I don’t know that I need 
> the tread of the Bens since I’m really a paved surface kinda gal. But I’m 
> open here! The next question is what size. I was out there with a 
> flashlight just now and I see the Clementine tires are Kenda “27.5 x 1.75.” 
> Just out of curiosity, I looked at my son’s 45 cm Clem, and he has Kenda 
> “26 x 2.10.” Can he really have fatter tires than me?! 
>
> I’m asking you and not Rivendell because I probably won’t order tires from 
> them. 
>
> You are lifesavers, 
> Leah

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem L, orange, w upgrades $1200, size 52

2019-09-26 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

It's not a competition of course, but GO NY!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine


The Clem takes up to 60mm/2.4" tires, but with your fenders which are 
likely P50's(about 53-54 actual) the Big Ben 50's(46 or so actual) fit 
fine. I bought the BB over the Big Apples just for the extra tread and 
lifespan. Trust me, the tread does little if anything for traction on the 
road and nothing for off road. As I said they roll with ease !  It's a BA 
with 50 grams more rubber. 


On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:29:51 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Ok, Friends, you’ve got me interested in the Schwalbe tires, and of those, 
> I think the Big Ben and the Big Apples sound good. I don’t know that I need 
> the tread of the Bens since I’m really a paved surface kinda gal. But I’m 
> open here! The next question is what size. I was out there with a 
> flashlight just now and I see the Clementine tires are Kenda “27.5 x 1.75.” 
> Just out of curiosity, I looked at my son’s 45 cm Clem, and he has Kenda 
> “26 x 2.10.” Can he really have fatter tires than me?! 
>
> I’m asking you and not Rivendell because I probably won’t order tires from 
> them. 
>
> You are lifesavers, 
> Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Ok, Friends, you’ve got me interested in the Schwalbe tires, and of those, I 
think the Big Ben and the Big Apples sound good. I don’t know that I need the 
tread of the Bens since I’m really a paved surface kinda gal. But I’m open 
here! The next question is what size. I was out there with a flashlight just 
now and I see the Clementine tires are Kenda “27.5 x 1.75.” Just out of 
curiosity, I looked at my son’s 45 cm Clem, and he has Kenda “26 x 2.10.” Can 
he really have fatter tires than me?! 

I’m asking you and not Rivendell because I probably won’t order tires from 
them. 

You are lifesavers,
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Jim Bronson

I didn't like the Kendas on my Clem Smith Jr at first either, but after
some consideration, I decided to just keep them until they wear out, or
until I have money burning a hole in my pocket, which is currently NOT the
case.

They are slower and heavier than other tires, but I find that if I just
accept the slower speed it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the bike.  I
don't use my Clem like a road bike, it's more relaxed than that.  I just
put out the same amount of effort that I would otherwise and whatever speed
I achieve, is whatever speed I achieve.  Yea I'm 3 or more MPH slower than
I am on my Rivendell Road Standard shod with Compass LoupLoup Pass tires,
but who cares.  Well I don't at any rate.

Plus the Kendas have the added advantage of being very flat resistant.  I
don't even take a spare tube with me when I ride my Clem.  Granted, I don't
get more than 5 or 10 miles away from the house much on my Clem, but still,
it's somewhat liberating to feel that sort of confidence.

*I do carry spare tubes most of the time, but the couple of times I forgot
to put my saddlebag back on, I just shrugged it off and kept riding.

Jim
Austin, TX

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those
> aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy”
> someone once said, and that makes sense to me.
>
> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the
> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my
> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease
> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird
> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the
> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I
> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked
> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t
> know.
>
> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new
> tires?
>
> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s
> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they
> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of
> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That
> is all!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

Quite seriously, I don't want to step on Garth's or any one else's toes,
but I'm 175 lb and I ran 50 mm tires, and paper thin ones at that (Furious
Freds, 360 grams each) at 20 psi on dirt, sub 30 on pavement. 60s if stiff
sidewalled Big Apples at 16-17 dirt and about 21 pavement, supple ones
18-20 dirt, 25-6 pavement (generally, I just leave them at the lower
pressure unless I take an extended pavement ride). I just found that when I
pump my 28 mm Compass extralights rock hard, the digital gauge reads 51
psi; should run them at 45. I put 80 f/90 rear in supple 22 mm tires. All
this often includes freight loads up to 40 lbs.

Don't overfill! Pinch flats -- I *never* get pinch flats for some reason --
can be avoided by being just a very little bit careful.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:07 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>
>   For your bike(27.5 wheels) Leah I'll second the 50mm Big Ben tires. I
> ride these on my Bombadil and I LOVE them on the road. I ride them at about
> 35 psi front and 40 rear.  They just roll and roll and roll it's
> amazingly fun !
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

+ 1 for the Big Apples.

I don't know if they still make the "Liteskin" version; I expect not, since
that was meant, I think, to be a "performance" model* that has long since
been replaced by lighter and presumeably faster tires, but the "base" model
Big Apple that I used in the early 2000s was for its bulk* a quite nice
rolling tire. I used both 26" X 60 mm and 700C X 60, the Liteskin only in
the latter size.

I once gave a pair of modern (2018) 700C X 60 Big Apple standards to a
friend who had been commuting on cheap knobbies. His performance report
was: "Wow!"

Both standard (again, 15 years ago; can't speak of new ones) and Liteskin
models seemed to have the same tread and puncture belt, but the LS had more
supple sidewalls.

Both Big Apple models were *almost* goathead-proof -- tubes, no sealant.
I'd come out of the bosque after a long dirt ride with scores of thorns in
the tread, brush them off, and the tires were still holding air a couple of
days later. On pavement, not quite as proof, but they still resisted *most*
thorns compared to the other tires I used.

* The 700C X 60 standard weighed 900 grams (2 whole lbs!), while the
Liteskin was a svelte, pared-down, racing weight ... 800 grams! But again,
both seemed to roll pretty well for the mass and the puncture resistance.
(For perspective: my current Schwalbe Big Ones, the same height and breadth
as the 700C Big Apples, weigh 450 grams each; and roll like racing tires, I
kid you not. But viable only with sealant.)

My only experience with Marathons was with the 20 Marathon Racers that were
OEM on my Dahon Hon Solo. Bow wow wow wow wow. *Wow wow!* I replaced them
with (also Schwalbe) Kojaks -- better indeed; and then with Kenda Power
Bands or somesuch; better yet.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:09 AM Ian A  wrote:

> I've been surprised at how well Schwalbe Big Apple tires roll, especially
> considering their resilience. I'd recommend those based on how good they
> seem to ride on my commuter bike. Mine are 26"x 2" and feel faster than the
> Marathon Plus that were on before.
>
> In terms of the black speckles, it looks almost like grime from fresh
> tarmac or sun softened tarmac. A wide and long mudflap on the front fender
> should mitigate the issue.
>
> IanA
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[RBW] Saddle and Related Sale

2019-09-26 Thread John McBurney

I have excess saddles that need new homes. Nothing wrong with em just going
in a different direction

Vintage Ideale Model 90. In really excellent vintage condition. Perfect for
a vintage touring bike. $125

Brooks Pro. New (one short ride). Brown, steel rivets chrome rails $60

Brooks B17 good used condition Brown, steel rivets,black rails.  $40

Salsa 27.2 mm seat post, dual bolt, black. $20

Nitto seat bag mount / quick release.   $75

If you are interested private message me and I’ll forward pictures.

All prices plus usps shipping.

John

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine



  For your bike(27.5 wheels) Leah I'll second the 50mm Big Ben tires. I 
ride these on my Bombadil and I LOVE them on the road. I ride them at about 
35 psi front and 40 rear.  They just roll and roll and roll it's 
amazingly fun !

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Leah Peterson

Someone private messaged me and was nearly certain the brake pads are causing 
the smattering of black speckles, and I think he’s right. I ran my fingers over 
the brake pads and that same matter appeared on my fingers. With my brakes 
employed down the 1 mile descent to school, there would be a lot of opportunity 
for the stuff to accumulate on me and the bike.



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> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:27 AM, masmojo  wrote:
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> Oh, I  meant to say, a short term solution might be simply washing your 
> tires/bike.
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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

2019-09-26 Thread Bill Lindsay

...”operators are standing by”

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

Riv is amazing. My order shipped 15 minutes after I ordered it! 

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread masmojo

Oh, I  meant to say, a short term solution might be simply washing your 
tires/bike.

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread masmojo

I agree the specks look like the result of a light spray from the tires. Hit a 
little dampness & the droplets fling off, the moisture quickly evaporates and 
you are left with small spots.

Tires on a Clementine? The choices are sort of wide ranging. The Kenda's aren't 
bad tires, but yes maybe a bit heavy and sluggish. Unfortunately, from there 
where do you go? Depends on primary function. Marathons are a good choice. WTB 
Horizons are a good quick tire, but maybe narrower than you might want on a 
Clem? For a more offroad tire I like the Continental Race Kings or Mountain 
Kings. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem L, orange, w upgrades $1200, size 52

2019-09-26 Thread Ado

New York is the new home of my Clem L

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 5:59:41 PM UTC-7, Ado wrote:
>
> I have a 52 Clem L, orange, 1st batch that I bought for my wife. She have 
> rarely use it cause she have knee problem. Mileage less than 100 miles.
> Original parts except the upgrades below:
> Upgraded with:
> Schwalbe 60 mm G-One, almost new
> Albatross (?) bar
> Rivendell front rack
> Selle Anatomica leather saddle (bought used)
> New Kickstand
> No dent, never crashed
> Some paint chips, mostly on threaded bosses
> I will include the original handlebar and tires.
> Prefer local pick up but willing to ship at buyers expense.
>
> Ado
> San Jose, CA
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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

Ok that makes sense. Thanks, George!

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

If all you want to do is move an in-place BB over a bit you can certainly 
get by with just one wrench/spline tool.  Just keep in the back of your 
mind the fact that the drive side is reverse-threaded and you loosen by 
turning clockwise. Loosen drive side/tighten opposite side in small 
increments.  Phil recommends using a thread locker like Loctite on their 
fixing cups so it may turn with some difficulty (kinda interesting how they 
recommend a thread locker where others - the kind with a lip - recommend 
using grease).  And again IIRC, their instructions say to tighten to around 
20 ft/lbs so as not to overload the bearings.

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 11:02:21 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Now I'm confused. I need to shift the spindle to drive side about a 
> millimeter..do I need two wrenches at once, or can I loosen one side at a 
> time? Oy, I have no clue how Phils work. 

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

Now I'm confused. I need to shift the spindle to drive side about a 
millimeter..do I need two wrenches at once, or can I loosen one side at a time? 
Oy, I have no clue how Phils work. 

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

Installing a Phil BB even with two of their tools can bit mentally 
challenging.  A run of the mill cartridge BB like an IRD is no problem 
because the drive side has a lip - so you just tighten it the recommended 
amount of torque and move to the other side.  BUT, since the drive side of 
a BB shell is reverse-threaded and the fixing cups of a Phil BB are 
lip-less, you're pulling both wrenches in the same direction to tighten, 
which is counter intuitive. 

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:08:00 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Then two it is, I probably shouldn't try to weasel out of an extra $18. 
> It'll probably put me over the free shipping threshold with Riv anyway cuz 
> I need Paul Thumbies and isn't it amazing how much you can spend on a used 
> bike that was complete when you bought it?? Sheesh!

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

2019-09-26 Thread Bill Lindsay

If the task on hand is to remove a Phil BB, take the frame to a mechanic with 
the tools and pay him/her a few bucks to remove it. Why buy tools that you’ll 
never use again?  

If you are keeping the BB and intend to use it long term you should celebrate 
the opportunity to buy more tools. That’s fun!  

When I needed to do it I borrowed the tools from Missing Link, but I worked 
there and I get ex-member privileges. 

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

Then two it is, I probably shouldn't try to weasel out of an extra $18. It'll 
probably put me over the free shipping threshold with Riv anyway cuz I need 
Paul Thumbies and isn't it amazing how much you can spend on a used bike that 
was complete when you bought it?? Sheesh!

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?

IIRC, the instructions for mounting a Phil BB say that you can move the BB 
cartridge a couple of mm in either direction to adjust the drive line, but 
if a greater amount than that is required you should be using a BB with a 
different spindle length.  And yes, it's much easier to mount one if you 
have two of their tools instead of just one, but you can get by with just 
one if necessary.

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 8:50:56 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Ah, there ya go, Christopher. I've never seen a Phil BB live in person, 
> but this is an original Riv A/R so of course it's a Phil! 
>
> My issue is I need a smidge more spindle on the drive side; these BBs have 
> an adjustment for that, right? Do I need two Phil tools to do it?
>
> Btw, the title of this thread should say "slightly", not "slight". Whoops. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-26 Thread Paul Richardson

truly a delight to put some faces with names, admire some handsome 
bicycles, talk about wool with people who understand, and take in the 
splendor of upstate new york!
i'll have a few photos to post once i get my film processed.
hope to see yas at the 26th--and holler if yer down this way before then!

paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] BB splines slight small?

Ah, there ya go, Christopher. I've never seen a Phil BB live in person, but 
this is an original Riv A/R so of course it's a Phil! 

My issue is I need a smidge more spindle on the drive side; these BBs have an 
adjustment for that, right? Do I need two Phil tools to do it?

Btw, the title of this thread should say "slightly", not "slight". Whoops. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-26 Thread finny

Magical is the best word i can use to describe the event. I wish I did
not have to work on Sunday as I would have loved to jam with you guys!

I was thinking that we could have held the high ground and saved the
shire from any attacks the dark powers came with. There is no way they
could have scaled those walls without joining us in merriment and
fellowship.

Spence

On 25/09/2019 7:57 pm, rpeters.vetp...@gmail.com wrote:

That's a great little video Alex!
I always knew clawhammer banjo and Rivs would go together like peanut butter and jelly...

The pictures sent/posted are all so beautiful and capture the event so well!

Chris and I still are talking about what a lovely time we had on the ride : looking forward to the next one - hopefully the banjo and fiddle (and the Tolkien Atlantis) will come along again too!

Rachel
Arlington MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:

Love it, Alex -- and the soundtrack is perfect!

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 11:48:13 AM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: I made my first video with some clips from the ridemusic is courtesy of Joel Boyer--fellow list member Atlantis captain and excellent human being.

I had an absolute blast everyone!

Enjoy ❤️

Alex in Rochester

https://vimeo.com/362335744

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Tom Wyland

The black specs are probably brake dust or something from the road?  Water 
+ brake dust = black specs for me.

I've had Schwalbe Big Ben (raceguard) and Marathon green guard tires on my 
bikes. The Big Ben/Big Apple tires really do have great rolling resistance. 
The Marathons are a great value. I picked up a set of Schwalbe Marathon 
Winter tires for my folding bike for $25/each on ChainReactionCycles (UK 
site). 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Sky Coulter

I like the schwalbe marathon supreme tires: big and cushy (2.0 measure 
around 46mm on my rims); unlikely to flat; fast rolling (in my experience 
there isn't that big of a difference between them and compass tires). They 
can be found online in a couple places at a reasonable price but still a 
bit dear.

Sky in new west

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wrote:
>
> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those 
> aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy” 
> someone once said, and that makes sense to me. 
>
> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the 
> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my 
> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease 
> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird 
> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the 
> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I 
> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked 
> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t 
> know. 
>
> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new 
> tires? 
>
> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s 
> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they 
> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of 
> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That 
> is all! 

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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread PaulS

Your tires have probably dry rotted, living in a dry desert, it’s not 
surprising. Look for cracking on the sidewalls or let some air out and squeeze 
the sidewalls. Guessing you will see cracks. 

If you don’t want flats, get a touring tire. Schwalbe Marathon Plus. Not the 
best riding, but you won’t be on the side of the road changing flats. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaFrdQjQEo

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[RBW] BB splines slight small?

2019-09-26 Thread Christopher Cote

Any chance it's got a Phil Wood BB in there? If so, you'll need the Phil Wood 
tool. Possibly two of them when you go to reinstall. Easiest way to tell is if 
the non drive side cup doesn't have a shoulder outside the BB she'll like a 
Shimano or Range would have. In other words, both cups look the same.

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Eric Daume

If the stock tires are the Kenda Kwik Nines, they are awful, slow,
uncomfortable junk. I was surprised how much faster and smoother my Clem
rode when I replaced them with 44mm Resist Nomads. Even though the Nomads
were narrower, they were so much smoother since the sidewalls weren’t made
of concrete.

So, even if the tires aren’t the source of your black spots, it’s still
worth upgrading.

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those
> aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy”
> someone once said, and that makes sense to me.
>
> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the
> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my
> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease
> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird
> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the
> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I
> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked
> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t
> know.
>
> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new
> tires?
>
> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s
> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they
> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of
> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That
> is all!
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Conway Bennett

The black specs are probably and rubber from the tire rubbing, check your brake 
pads to see if they aren't hitting the sidewall near the bead.

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Ian A

I've been surprised at how well Schwalbe Big Apple tires roll, especially 
considering their resilience. I'd recommend those based on how good they seem 
to ride on my commuter bike. Mine are 26"x 2" and feel faster than the Marathon 
Plus that were on before.

In terms of the black speckles, it looks almost like grime from fresh tarmac or 
sun softened tarmac. A wide and long mudflap on the front fender should 
mitigate the issue.

IanA

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[RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

Three cheers for using shorter cranks !  I use 150/152 with long legs and 
sz.14 feet. 36" pbh.  Slightly forward of midfoot shoe placement.  Not only 
no loss of power, but much more efficient use of it. I can climb seated now 
whereas with 170-185's I never could.  I mostly ride road, but do ride on 
some local township "roads" that are as rough and irregular as any mtb 
trail, and often steep and super steep.  Seated climbing the whole time ;-) 
. 

I may go even shorter to 140-145 with the next Andel  triple cranks I get 
from Bikesmith Design, or another Origin8 double you can buy off the 
shelf.  

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> I've recently been experimenting with 165, 155, 152 and 145 cranks (80-ish 
> PBH). I can't vouch for dirt riding or climbing long monster paved hills, 
> but I detect no leverage difference in general town riding. I rock less on 
> the saddle and it saves my knees, I think shorter is better. 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Jeffrey B

I think you might like these tires:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/schwalbe-big-ben-wire-raceguard-performance-line-hs439-700c-x-50-50-622-28x2-00-10129?variant=12239849095279

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[RBW] Re: BB splines slight small?