[RBW] FS: new wooly sweater medium

[Drw]

For some reason, I can’t track down what price I paid for  the pre order of 
this sweater (thanks to anyone who can find that email). Anyway it’s a size 
medium. Too snug for me. Measurements are on the riv site. I put it on for 
about 20 seconds before realizing it’s too small, otherwise brand new. Last 
chance item.

Price is the same as riv prices but I’ll cover shipping part. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 Roadini F/F/HS/BB -- Custom Red Paint

[tc]

Sold.

On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 4:41:25 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> Bump, reduced to $600, including shipping (CONUS).
>
> Tom
>
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:20:46 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>
>> I've removed all components and added a couple of pic's and a vid of the 
>> F/F/HS/BB.  Same Google Photos folder 
>> .
>> I have the Paul Medium Racers for sale in another post 
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Tom
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rockgeist 1/2 Frame Bag

[Collin A]

The bag is on its way to it's new home in Washington, thanks for looking!

Collin in Sac

On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 4:52:57 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote:
>
> Heyo,
>
> I'm in the middle of switching around my camping and commuting setup on my 
> clem and decided to forgo my custom 1/2 framebag in the process. It will 
> perfectly fit a 52 Clem H and provide plenty of room for bottles 
> underneath. There is also enough Velcro to allow for usage on other long 
> top-tube bikes
>
> Features include:
>
>- A bit of dust from the sierras (I can clean it before I ship it)
>- Non-driveside map pocket for phone, stickers, irish straps, maps, 
>etc.
>- Lace-up top to keep it looking clean
>- Dynamo/hydration port on the front and rear of the bag to allow for 
>a cleaner setup if you are running rear dyno lights
>- Velcro loops on the inside top to store a pump or tent poles
>- Structured bottom to help prevent droopy bag syndrome
>- A Crust Patch that is always a good conversation piece
>
> I'm looking for about $80 plus actual shipping (maybe $10?). This thing 
> new would be about $180
>
> See pictures here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/W5XjU4VPwu1cg94G8
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Shimano XTR v-brakes

[Philip Williamson]

There’s a pair on SF craigslist for $60.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-xtr-brake-set-hardware/7069478557.html

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Well, I hadn't thought of that, but I guess I could order a custom 
Rivendell with 54cm Hunqapillar geometry, maybe with an iridescent Woolly 
mammoth brown paint job? 

But I think there's a more reasonable solution, like the Surly or Paul 
brake hangers. ;)

John

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 5:35:00 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Personally, I'd just get a new frame."
>
> That's what I do when I get a scratch. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Joe Bernard]

"Personally, I'd just get a new frame."

That's what I do when I get a scratch. 

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[RBW] FS: Saddles - Brooks, Riv., Velo Orange

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Sold:  #3 Velo Orange
   #4. Selle Anatomica
#5.  Riv saddle

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[RBW] FS: Saddles - Brooks, Riv., Velo Orange

[WETH]

Email sent.

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Brian Campbell]

This is my AHH, which had Paul Racers brazed on.


 
I used the Surly hanger at the suggestion of the builder. He told me it was 
the least likely to interfere with the seat lug and a lot cheaper than 
brazing on a dedicated stop along with the re-paint.

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Clayton.sf]

Getting a longer binder bolt and using a Mafac hanger might be another 
solution as it bolts to the outside rather than into the slot. Like this 
one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/291709320587.

Or get a longer bold that sticks our a little and bolt the Nitto hanger to 
the side. This will put the brake cable at an angle but depending on frame 
side it might not matter much. 

Personally, I'd just get a new frame.

Clayton Scott,
HBG, CA



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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[David B]

To be fair, the Redwood was designed for sidepull brakes, so I don't think 
there needed to be thought about brake hangers.
David

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:16:46 PM UTC-6, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Thanks Garth, and everybody,
>
>  Rather than futz around trying one or two thinner hangers, I think I 
> will go with the Paul Funky Monkey rear brake cable hanger to solve my 
> problem. More expensive but at least it will complement my Paul Touring 
> canti's.
>
>I really want to thank everyone here for chipping in with all your 
> advice, suggestions and experiences, you guys are the best!
>
>If this problem has been popping up since the Redwood, I wish Rivendell 
> had paid a bit more attention to the issue. But I can't say I haven't 
> enjoyed learning from everyone here on the forum how to best solve this 
> problem.
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
> John
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Hi, 
 Yes, the outer edge of the long Nitto rear hanger nearly reaches my 
27.2mm seatpost within the seat tube slot no matter what angle it hangs 
from the M6 bolt. It wouldn't be able to cam the slot in the seat tube open 
because it is already in the slot.

  I checked the seat tube on my AHH, which is using the smaller Nitto 
hanger, and if I needed to tighten the seat binder bolt a hair more, I 
would have the same problem with my AHH as well.

John

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:43:55 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Same hardware, but the OP's bike is a Hunqapillar with a 27.2 post. I 
> think he just got unlucky with the dimensions of the binder ears and Nitto 
> hanger on this one, something needs to be filed down or replaced in there. 

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[RBW] WTT - Riv Cheviot WoolyWarm sweater, XXL for XL

[Jay Lonner]

As above - I have one of the new Riv sweaters in size XXL that I would like 
to trade for an XL. I'm 6'3", 210#, long arms and torso, and the XXL is 
little generous on me - workable, but not ideal. Maybe you have an XL 
that's a bit snug? Riv HQ is sold out across the board.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Joe Bernard]

Same hardware, but the OP's bike is a Hunqapillar with a 27.2 post. I think he 
just got unlucky with the dimensions of the binder ears and Nitto hanger on 
this one, something needs to be filed down or replaced in there. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Joe Bunik]

Follow-on thought question :

Does/did Riv use the same seat-lug (the "basic hardware/bolt-nut") -
for both 27.2 **and** 26.8 seatpost-sized frames? Perhaps that's the
key to the problem, that the Nitto hanger is incompatible on 26.8
frames using this lug?

=- Joe

On 2/19/20, Joe Bunik  wrote:
> I believe one **possible source** of this issue **IS** the Nitto cable
> hanger itself --
>
> On many Riv frames it fits "just fine" between the ears of the seatlug
> -- but, on some, when you tighten down the post -- it actually catches
> between the ears and cams the tube back open just enough to cause the
> seatpost to slip.
>
> I agree that while canti frames should include an integrated cable
> stop, the rise of V-brakes makes the proper design treatment
> ambiguous!
>
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> On 2/19/20, John Phillips  wrote:
>> Thanks Garth, and everybody,
>>
>>  Rather than futz around trying one or two thinner hangers, I think I
>> will go with the Paul Funky Monkey rear brake cable hanger to solve my
>> problem. More expensive but at least it will complement my Paul Touring
>> canti's.
>>
>>I really want to thank everyone here for chipping in with all your
>> advice, suggestions and experiences, you guys are the best!
>>
>>If this problem has been popping up since the Redwood, I wish
>> Rivendell
>> had paid a bit more attention to the issue. But I can't say I haven't
>> enjoyed learning from everyone here on the forum how to best solve this
>> problem.
>>
>> Thanks again everyone!
>>
>> John
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Joe Bunik]

I believe one **possible source** of this issue **IS** the Nitto cable
hanger itself --

On many Riv frames it fits "just fine" between the ears of the seatlug
-- but, on some, when you tighten down the post -- it actually catches
between the ears and cams the tube back open just enough to cause the
seatpost to slip.

I agree that while canti frames should include an integrated cable
stop, the rise of V-brakes makes the proper design treatment
ambiguous!

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 2/19/20, John Phillips  wrote:
> Thanks Garth, and everybody,
>
>  Rather than futz around trying one or two thinner hangers, I think I
> will go with the Paul Funky Monkey rear brake cable hanger to solve my
> problem. More expensive but at least it will complement my Paul Touring
> canti's.
>
>I really want to thank everyone here for chipping in with all your
> advice, suggestions and experiences, you guys are the best!
>
>If this problem has been popping up since the Redwood, I wish Rivendell
> had paid a bit more attention to the issue. But I can't say I haven't
> enjoyed learning from everyone here on the forum how to best solve this
> problem.
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
> John
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom, not a custom

[Chris L]

I can't believe that's a 61cm model!   The 650B wheels make the proportions 
very similar to a 56cm frame with 26" wheels.  



On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 1:39:48 PM UTC-6, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:25:39 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Someone on this list modified his original-issue Atlantis for discs and 
>> was very happy with it. I forget who, but he sent me a photo -- best of 
>> both worlds (for off road, at any rate), IMO; and a very nice bike.
>>
>
> I think it's this dude's bike 
>  (more 
> pics here ). According to the article, 
> the bike was a rather extensive crash rebuild, and needed a new fork. Heck, 
> it was even converted to 650B from 700C. This isn't a "sacrificial 
> Atlantis" but a resurrection. Even though Grant swore he won't make 
> disc-braked bikes, he probably wouldn't be dismayed at this particular 
> example, since the bike is enjoyed as intended, with beausage all around, 
> and outfitted with parts Riv staff will find familiar.
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Thanks Garth, and everybody,

 Rather than futz around trying one or two thinner hangers, I think I 
will go with the Paul Funky Monkey rear brake cable hanger to solve my 
problem. More expensive but at least it will complement my Paul Touring 
canti's.

   I really want to thank everyone here for chipping in with all your 
advice, suggestions and experiences, you guys are the best!

   If this problem has been popping up since the Redwood, I wish Rivendell 
had paid a bit more attention to the issue. But I can't say I haven't 
enjoyed learning from everyone here on the forum how to best solve this 
problem.

Thanks again everyone!

John


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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Thanks David,

  Yep, no problem tightening the seat post binder bolt sufficiently 
with out the brake hanger present to interfere.
John

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-8, David B wrote:
>
> John,
> I think what you laid out in your initial post are the the permanent 
> solutions. To confirm - your seatpost fits correctly and wouldn't slip if 
> the brake hanger were not there, correct? The issue then is that the brake 
> hanger is interfering with securing the seatpost fully.
> If so, filing the frame slot or swapping brake hangers are your options.
> I've filed the seat cluster/slot of my Redwood when I put in centerpull 
> brakes - I had the same issue you're having. I do think that finding a 
> thinner brake hanger (the Surly one is the thinnest option I've seen) or 
> going with the Funky Monkey would be an easier fix.
> Alternatively, you could switch to v-brakes and not have a need for a 
> hanger.
> David
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-6, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Eric,
>>
>>  The interior of the seat tube is smooth, no problem there, but I 
>> could file away a bit on either side of the slot in the seat tube to 
>> accommodate the  brake hanger.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> John:
>>>
>>> Sorry for jumping into this a bit late, but I’ll just add that the 
>>> mechanics I have spoken to about slipping seatposts would *never* recommend 
>>> friction paste. If your post is slipping, there is something going on that 
>>> shouldn’t be “fixed” with friction paste. That’s like putting a band-aid on 
>>> a broken arm.
>>>
>>> When I had this problem on a bike recently (Soma Saga), the fix involved 
>>> removing a tiny amount of excess material on the inside of the seat cluster 
>>> that was preventing the seat post from being properly gripped. A few 
>>> minutes with a file fixed the problem.
>>>
>>> --Eric N
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Garth]

First of all, leaving off the rear brake bridges for bikes that have canti 
studs is just plain stupid  dumb dumb dumb. 

Before you go about anything John you gotta know if the post stays put 
without the hanger. 

If the post still slips you have either an irregularity in the seatpost or 
frame. Do measure with digital calipers. 

If the post stays put w/o the hanger, don't go filing the inside of the 
seapost clamp, just don't  repeat ... repeat  repeat.  I would 
measure the thickness of the Nitto hanger and compare it to the gap. Filing 
"some" off is a slippery slope, you may be better getting a different one. 

As mentioned try either the Surly hanger or the Origin8 one.  I use the 
Origin8 one on the front of one of my bikes and I found the brake works 
better having the hanger so close to the brake as opposed to way up at the 
headset.  The rear is no different. 

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom, not a custom

[Patrick Moore]

That's the one. Lovely bike.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:39 PM Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:25:39 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Someone on this list modified his original-issue Atlantis for discs and
>> was very happy with it. I forget who, but he sent me a photo -- best of
>> both worlds (for off road, at any rate), IMO; and a very nice bike.
>>
>
> I think it's this dude's bike
>  (more
> pics here ). According to the article,
> the bike was a rather extensive crash rebuild, and needed a new fork. Heck,
> it was even converted to 650B from 700C. This isn't a "sacrificial
> Atlantis" but a resurrection. Even though Grant swore he won't make
> disc-braked bikes, he probably wouldn't be dismayed at this particular
> example, since the bike is enjoyed as intended, with beausage all around,
> and outfitted with parts Riv staff will find familiar.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[David B]

John,
I think what you laid out in your initial post are the the permanent 
solutions. To confirm - your seatpost fits correctly and wouldn't slip if 
the brake hanger were not there, correct? The issue then is that the brake 
hanger is interfering with securing the seatpost fully.
If so, filing the frame slot or swapping brake hangers are your options.
I've filed the seat cluster/slot of my Redwood when I put in centerpull 
brakes - I had the same issue you're having. I do think that finding a 
thinner brake hanger (the Surly one is the thinnest option I've seen) or 
going with the Funky Monkey would be an easier fix.
Alternatively, you could switch to v-brakes and not have a need for a 
hanger.
David

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:14:01 PM UTC-6, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric,
>
>  The interior of the seat tube is smooth, no problem there, but I 
> could file away a bit on either side of the slot in the seat tube to 
> accommodate the  brake hanger.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> John:
>>
>> Sorry for jumping into this a bit late, but I’ll just add that the 
>> mechanics I have spoken to about slipping seatposts would *never* recommend 
>> friction paste. If your post is slipping, there is something going on that 
>> shouldn’t be “fixed” with friction paste. That’s like putting a band-aid on 
>> a broken arm.
>>
>> When I had this problem on a bike recently (Soma Saga), the fix involved 
>> removing a tiny amount of excess material on the inside of the seat cluster 
>> that was preventing the seat post from being properly gripped. A few 
>> minutes with a file fixed the problem.
>>
>> --Eric N
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Thanks Eric,

 The interior of the seat tube is smooth, no problem there, but I could 
file away a bit on either side of the slot in the seat tube to accommodate 
the  brake hanger.

John

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> John:
>
> Sorry for jumping into this a bit late, but I’ll just add that the 
> mechanics I have spoken to about slipping seatposts would *never* recommend 
> friction paste. If your post is slipping, there is something going on that 
> shouldn’t be “fixed” with friction paste. That’s like putting a band-aid on 
> a broken arm.
>
> When I had this problem on a bike recently (Soma Saga), the fix involved 
> removing a tiny amount of excess material on the inside of the seat cluster 
> that was preventing the seat post from being properly gripped. A few 
> minutes with a file fixed the problem.
>
> --Eric N
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Thanks Eric,

 The interior of the seat tube is smooth, no problem there, but I could 
file away a bit on either side of the slot in the seat tube to accommodate 
the  brake hanger.

John

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> John:
>
> Sorry for jumping into this a bit late, but I’ll just add that the 
> mechanics I have spoken to about slipping seatposts would *never* recommend 
> friction paste. If your post is slipping, there is something going on that 
> shouldn’t be “fixed” with friction paste. That’s like putting a band-aid on 
> a broken arm.
>
> When I had this problem on a bike recently (Soma Saga), the fix involved 
> removing a tiny amount of excess material on the inside of the seat cluster 
> that was preventing the seat post from being properly gripped. A few 
> minutes with a file fixed the problem.
>
> --Eric N
>
> On Feb 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, John Phillips  > wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>Thank you for all your suggestions.
>
> My 27.2 Nitto S83 seatpost is snug enough in the seat tube to stay put 
> at a given height if there is only a very, very thin film of grease, so I 
> suppose the friction paste might work. How clean does the seat tube need to 
> be of grease for the friction paste to work? And how did you degrease the 
> interior of the seat tube?
>
>With the seatpost in the seat tube, and no binder bolt present, I have 
> a total of about 0.5mm of play between the hanger and the edges of the slot 
> in the seat tube. I'm kinda leary about grinding a bit too much off of the 
> brake hanger, because if I weaken it too much, I would worry about the 
> hanger snapping while braking downhill on a dirt road.
>
> So far, switching to something like the Paul Funk Monkey brake hanger 
> seems like it might the the easiest route? Or am I missing something?
>
> Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions,
>
> John  
> 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1985 21" Bridgestone MB-2, XT/XTR build

[esoterica etc]

I’ve gotten a couple of inquiries but nothing solid, so I just wanted to give a 
hump day bump to the MB-2. Cheers,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

John:

Sorry for jumping into this a bit late, but I’ll just add that the mechanics I 
have spoken to about slipping seatposts would *never* recommend friction paste. 
If your post is slipping, there is something going on that shouldn’t be “fixed” 
with friction paste. That’s like putting a band-aid on a broken arm.

When I had this problem on a bike recently (Soma Saga), the fix involved 
removing a tiny amount of excess material on the inside of the seat cluster 
that was preventing the seat post from being properly gripped. A few minutes 
with a file fixed the problem.

--Eric N

> On Feb 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, John Phillips  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>Thank you for all your suggestions.
> 
> My 27.2 Nitto S83 seatpost is snug enough in the seat tube to stay put at 
> a given height if there is only a very, very thin film of grease, so I 
> suppose the friction paste might work. How clean does the seat tube need to 
> be of grease for the friction paste to work? And how did you degrease the 
> interior of the seat tube?
>
>With the seatpost in the seat tube, and no binder bolt present, I have a 
> total of about 0.5mm of play between the hanger and the edges of the slot in 
> the seat tube. I'm kinda leary about grinding a bit too much off of the brake 
> hanger, because if I weaken it too much, I would worry about the hanger 
> snapping while braking downhill on a dirt road.
> 
> So far, switching to something like the Paul Funk Monkey brake hanger 
> seems like it might the the easiest route? Or am I missing something?
> 
> Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions,
> 
> John  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom, not a custom

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 6:25:39 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Someone on this list modified his original-issue Atlantis for discs and 
> was very happy with it. I forget who, but he sent me a photo -- best of 
> both worlds (for off road, at any rate), IMO; and a very nice bike.
>

I think it's this dude's bike 
 (more 
pics here ). According to the article, 
the bike was a rather extensive crash rebuild, and needed a new fork. Heck, 
it was even converted to 650B from 700C. This isn't a "sacrificial 
Atlantis" but a resurrection. Even though Grant swore he won't make 
disc-braked bikes, he probably wouldn't be dismayed at this particular 
example, since the bike is enjoyed as intended, with beausage all around, 
and outfitted with parts Riv staff will find familiar.

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[John Phillips]

Hi Everyone,
   Thank you for all your suggestions.

My 27.2 Nitto S83 seatpost is snug enough in the seat tube to stay put 
at a given height if there is only a very, very thin film of grease, so I 
suppose the friction paste might work. How clean does the seat tube need to 
be of grease for the friction paste to work? And how did you degrease the 
interior of the seat tube?
   
   With the seatpost in the seat tube, and no binder bolt present, I have a 
total of about 0.5mm of play between the hanger and the edges of the slot 
in the seat tube. I'm kinda leary about grinding a bit too much off of the 
brake hanger, because if I weaken it too much, I would worry about the 
hanger snapping while braking downhill on a dirt road.

So far, switching to something like the Paul Funk Monkey brake hanger 
seems like it might the the easiest route? Or am I missing something?

Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions,

John  




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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61 Roadini F/F/HS/BB -- Custom Red Paint

[Adam Mort]

I am familiar with the model as I already own one. How would you like to make 
payment arrangements?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:08 AM, tom coppedge  wrote:
> 
> Hey Adam,
> What would you like to know about the Roadini?
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:34 PM Adam M.  wrote:
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Please contact me regarding your Roadini frame.  
>> 
>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 2:41:25 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>>> Bump, reduced to $600, including shipping (CONUS).
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
 On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:20:46 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
 I've removed all components and added a couple of pic's and a vid of the 
 F/F/HS/BB.  Same Google Photos folder.
 I have the Paul Medium Racers for sale in another post.
 
 Tom
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[RBW] FS: Saddles - Brooks, Riv., Velo Orange

[Chris Birkenmaier]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jtUcoxjjr4TbhDJTA

Hope this works. Should be photos of the saddles

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[RBW] FS: Saddles - Brooks, Riv., Velo Orange

[Chris Birkenmaier]

The following saddles are up for sale.  Payment PayPal F and shipped to 
lower 48 states.  First to pay gets the saddle (contact me first please so 
that  I know you're buying) Email is cbirkenmai  gmail  com.  
Proceeds are toward a purchase at Riv.  

1.  Brooks Pro. Large rivets  . $75 shipped
2.  Brooks Pro.  Pre-Softened, Probably 1980's$80 shipped
3. Velo Orange   New and never used,  Came stock on VO Neutrino   $20 
shipped
4. Selle Anatomica "X" solid seat (not carved) brown $50 shipped
5.  Riv Saddle - Orig saddle on Joe A., never used   $20 shipped
6.  Brooks B17- Narrow Black, very light use,   $75 shipped

Photos are available on all above.  Happy to send to you.
thanks for looking
Chris



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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Ian Dickson]

I agree with Spencer that the hanger is the first thing I'd work on, 
whether replacing or modifying it. 

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 8:36:11 AM UTC-7, spencer robinson wrote:
>
> One really nice feature that I admire on Rivendell frames is that the 
> "pinch" bolt for the Seat post is just a normal bolt and nut.  I think I 
> would ensure that the cable hanger is not limiting how tightly the pinch 
> bolt is influencing the seat post.
> If the hanger is in conflict, I would take my dremil to the hanger and fix 
> that. Then a bit of grease on the post and grease on the pinch bolt threads 
> and tighten that bolt, really tight, worse case is you strip the bolt, you 
> can get a new one out of the parts bin or the hardware store.
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 7:28:17 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>
>>Okay, I admit, I can be the world's worst procrastinator, but after 
>> seven years, I'm getting tired of raising my seatpost after every ride. The 
>> slot cut into seat tube on my 2013 Hunqapillar doesn't have the space 
>> needed to accomodate the long-style Nitto brake cable hanger my Hunq came 
>> with, so I am done with procrastinating and am looking for the best 
>> possible solution.
>>
>> Should I grind away a bit of the seat tube so the the brake cable hanger 
>> no longer interferes with the seat post binder bolt?
>>
>> Switch to a different cable hanger like a Paul Component Funky Monkey?
>>
>> If anyone has a solution they would like to recommend, I would be very 
>> grateful. I certainly don't want to make matters worse.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[spencer robinson]

One really nice feature that I admire on Rivendell frames is that the 
"pinch" bolt for the Seat post is just a normal bolt and nut.  I think I 
would ensure that the cable hanger is not limiting how tightly the pinch 
bolt is influencing the seat post.
If the hanger is in conflict, I would take my dremil to the hanger and fix 
that. Then a bit of grease on the post and grease on the pinch bolt threads 
and tighten that bolt, really tight, worse case is you strip the bolt, you 
can get a new one out of the parts bin or the hardware store.

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 7:28:17 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:

>Okay, I admit, I can be the world's worst procrastinator, but after 
> seven years, I'm getting tired of raising my seatpost after every ride. The 
> slot cut into seat tube on my 2013 Hunqapillar doesn't have the space 
> needed to accomodate the long-style Nitto brake cable hanger my Hunq came 
> with, so I am done with procrastinating and am looking for the best 
> possible solution.
>
> Should I grind away a bit of the seat tube so the the brake cable hanger 
> no longer interferes with the seat post binder bolt?
>
> Switch to a different cable hanger like a Paul Component Funky Monkey?
>
> If anyone has a solution they would like to recommend, I would be very 
> grateful. I certainly don't want to make matters worse.
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Pancake]

I have one of those surly hangers if you want. Postage plus $2 and it’s yours. 
But I agree with the others that friction paste is the first thing to try. 

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[lconley]

This is from the Riv website, works on the rear brake bridge also:

[image: ca15089-2_1600x.jpg]

But on a Hunqapillar, I would use the Funky Monkey.

Laing
Delray Beach, FL


On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 7:28:17 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:

>Okay, I admit, I can be the world's worst procrastinator, but after 
> seven years, I'm getting tired of raising my seatpost after every ride. The 
> slot cut into seat tube on my 2013 Hunqapillar doesn't have the space 
> needed to accomodate the long-style Nitto brake cable hanger my Hunq came 
> with, so I am done with procrastinating and am looking for the best 
> possible solution.
>
> Should I grind away a bit of the seat tube so the the brake cable hanger 
> no longer interferes with the seat post binder bolt?
>
> Switch to a different cable hanger like a Paul Component Funky Monkey?
>
> If anyone has a solution they would like to recommend, I would be very 
> grateful. I certainly don't want to make matters worse.
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61 Roadini F/F/HS/BB -- Custom Red Paint

[tom coppedge]

Hey Adam,
What would you like to know about the Roadini?

Tom

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:34 PM Adam M.  wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Please contact me regarding your Roadini frame.
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 2:41:25 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>>
>> Bump, reduced to $600, including shipping (CONUS).
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:20:46 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>>
>>> I've removed all components and added a couple of pic's and a vid of the
>>> F/F/HS/BB.  Same Google Photos folder
>>> .
>>> I have the Paul Medium Racers for sale in another post
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> Tom
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