[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Joe Bernard]

Grilver is good, too! It really is an awesome bike, it reminds me a lot of my 
first Riv, a Romulus (and later the similar Rambouillet I had). I'm looking 
forward to the next singlespeed Grant has discussed. 

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[RBW] Re: For salvage sale, Ibis Cousin IT tandem

[Bill Rhea]

Thanks Corwin!

Got photos to share of your HHH??

Cheers,

-br

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:55:12 PM UTC-7, Corwin wrote:
>
> Hi Bill -
>
> Great news. Bernie is a great guy. Tried to talk my ears off. Showed me a 
> significant portion of his work via photos.
>
> I would buy your tandem - but I just bought a high-end Hubbuhubbuh a 
> couple months ago. My wife would try to kill me.
>
> Good luck with your sale. Hope your Ibis finds a good home! Good tandems 
> are hard to find.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:18:10 PM UTC-7, Bill Rhea wrote:
>>
>> I'm very bummed to announce the recent demise of my tandem.  The stoker 
>> seat tube sheared through completely just above where it joins the bottom 
>> bracket.
>>
>> Photos 
>>  here, 
>> including the detail photo of the broken seat tube.
>>
>> I bought this tandem brand new in 1994 when I worked for Wheelsmith in 
>> Palo Alto, and it was an awesome family tandem for quite a while. Both my 
>> kids rode on the back, and they're grown now.  I've got a Hubbuhubbuh on 
>> the way, so this has to go!
>>
>>- XTR drivetrain
>>- Specialized cranks
>>- 26" Mavic M261 rims, 36H, Hugi 8-speed cassette rear hub, Hugi 
>>front hub with SS spokes. Pretty much bomb proof!
>>- Custom stem by Bernie Mikkelsen (I have the original Ibis flat stem 
>>also, painted to match that is included)
>>- Nitto Noodle 48cm bars
>>- Tektro cantilever brakes
>>- Ibis custom stoker stem
>>
>>
>> A skilled builder might be able to replace the seat tube, but it'd be a 
>> bit of work and might not be worth the money to do so.
>>
>> I'm posting to see if anybody is interested in purchasing this complete 
>> (minus both seats, the stoker seatpost, and the Sackville bag in the 
>> photos).  If not I'll likely part it out, keep some, sell some.
>>
>> If you know of any builder who might take this on, please let me know.  
>> I'd really love to see it back on the road again, even with a new owner.  
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Bill Rhea
>> Napa, CA
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Ray Varella]

Joe, 
   You would have gotten a blue one if I didn’t already have a couple blue 
bikes. 

It looks great. 

Ray

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[RBW] Before I go order one...I'd like one lock on grip clamp

[Bill Lindsay]

I have a bike hack project for which I would like to obtain one clamp, that 
fits around a 22.2mm handlebar and is itself as thin as possible.  The 
clamp that is used with most lock-on grips is perfect.  So, if YOU have a 
ruined, orphaned, or otherwise unwanted clamp, I'd like to obtain it.  I 
only need one, and if I can't find one, I'll eventually buy a set of four 
from one of the online retailers for ~$12 - $15.  

Here is an example of the object I would like to obtain:

https://www.jensonusa.com/ODI-Lock-On-Clamps

Are you holding?  Would you like to mail me one?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: PSA: hubbuh hubbuh

[William!]

It's back! Anyone know the seller?

On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 2:44:29 PM UTC-8, Birdman wrote:
>
> Not mine and I don’t know the seller, but this medium sized hubbuh hubbuh 
> is new in box: 
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/d/boise-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh-tandem/7068604950.html
>  
>
> Isaac in PDX

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[RBW] Re: Another Clem fender conundrum

[ted]

"My “local hardware store” is a totally indifferent Home Depot ..."

Ouch that's rough. There are at least two hardware stores in my town that 
have a nice selection of metric stainless steel hardware. Nylon spacers too.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:00:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
> Measure exactly what you need and order it from McMaster Carr. I bought a 
> bunch of spacers there. You will be amazed by how many sizes and styles 
> they carry. My “local hardware store” is a totally indifferent Home Depot 
> and my trips there always end in disappointment. 

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[RBW] Another Clem fender conundrum

[Michael Morrissey]

Measure exactly what you need and order it from McMaster Carr. I bought a bunch 
of spacers there. You will be amazed by how many sizes and styles they carry. 
My “local hardware store” is a totally indifferent Home Depot and my trips 
there always end in disappointment. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Joe Bernard]

Per Mark's car example, I own a huge Chevy Impala which does all the carrying 
and cruising stuff just dandy. Will it ever be sporty? Nope. Would I maybe add 
prettier/lighter wheels and tires at some point just because I like them and I 
want to? You betcha  

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Jonathan D.]

David Feldman did a repair for me before and a great job.  He is in Vancouver 
and was the Rivelo mechanic as well.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Mark Roland]

In my original long ago review of the Clementine, I did point out that it 
was not perhaps the greatest apartment bicycle, depending on your 
apartment--mine was a 3 floor walkup with a narrow and steep final set of 
steps. Manageable, but barely. My Big Dummy I left in the hallway.

But I look at the Clem as I would look at a car. Functional for all 
weather, ready to go night or day, able to carry a good load of groceries. 
Like a car, it could be parked in a garage, and simply ridden in and out. 
If you do have to portage it for a bit, grabbing by the swoop is handy. I'm 
lucky in that I can wheel my bikes right into my house, but even there, the 
Clem takes up more than its share, which means a bike or three will need to 
move on. 

It is definitely not a bike you would travel with, outside of strapping it 
to the back of your Winnebago. There are plenty of bikes that are good for 
that. And I do think the solidity of the bike, and the substantial rolling 
mass, is part of its ride quality and appeal. It's a two-wheeled, 
non-motorized land yacht, the bicycle equivalent of a Fleetwood or a 
Continental. Only with better gas mileage and more fun in the handling 
department. Is there a way to put those automobiles on a diet and still 
have them be what they are? Maybe. You could leave home without the spare 
and the tire iron.

I understand the desire to make the Clem more accessible, easier to lift or 
pedal up a hill. For now that's not a huge problem for me, and with the 
gearing on the Silver crankset, it may be the easiest bike I have to pedal 
up the really steep stuff. So I am good with the full weight of my Clem L, 
which is more than 2x what my racing bike weighed in 1991. I think the 
prospect of lightening up the Cheviut has greater potential.

But it's all good in the end. I'll be looking forward to reading the 
results of this grand experiment!



On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:53:44 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> My Clem L as shown is 39lbs. Putting on my back o bike bags and front bar 
> bag (after a few minor tweaks) will add another 4 lbs. So yep, not 45lbs! 
> Until I go shopping...
>
> [image: IMG_20200412_094858562.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 6:53:49 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious about how much a typical (ie, no lightening surgery) Clem 
>> weighs. Anyone?
>>
>> Not 45 lb, I'll bet. 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Eric Daume]

That true. My school age kids are all about tik tok.

Eric
Who skipped FB, and Instagram, and...

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> My daughter says that Instagram is for old people.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:00 PM Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> I think you better join IG if you don’t have it, Patrick Moore. All the
>> cool kids are doing it.
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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[ted]

Get an instagram account??
Get off my lawn!
Or some such

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Patrick Moore]

An aside, but not entirely unrelated, and the blog is a very worthwhile one
-- I'm glad I found it, to replace some that have disappeared. This is
where she compares the French city bike and the 45 lb Raleigh.

https://restoringvintagebicycles.com

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:53 PM Mark Roland 
wrote:

> My Clem L as shown is 39lbs. Putting on my back o bike bags and front bar
> bag (after a few minor tweaks) will add another 4 lbs. So yep, not 45lbs!
> Until I go shopping...
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Patrick Moore]

My daughter says that Instagram is for old people.

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> ...
> I think you better join IG if you don’t have it, Patrick Moore. All the
> cool kids are doing it.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Mark Roland]

That sounds about right. Add big fenders, a couple of racks, dynamo hub and 
lighting, a sprung leather saddle, bell, mirror, and double leg kickstand 
and you will definitely be north of 40. 

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:07:45 PM UTC-4, alfonsejr wrote:
>
> You're correct, Patrick. My un-lightened gigantic 65cm Clem weighed 30.2 
> lbs, as delivered from Rivendell; no fenders, racks, etc. Not a lightweight 
> and not ridiculously heavy; I like it.
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 6:53:49 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious about how much a typical (ie, no lightening surgery) Clem 
>> weighs. Anyone?
>>
>> Not 45 lb, I'll bet. 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Patrick Moore]

That's exactly 1 lb less than my Matthews with full 80 mm wide fenders of
double gauge sheet and heavy-duty stays, dynamo lighting f and r, cages,
bar-space enhancer, and Revelate frame bag with kit including 4 oz bottle
of Orange Seal. Not a horrible weight at all! I've lifted my Matthews over
fences, too.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:07 PM alfonsejr  wrote:

> You're correct, Patrick. My un-lightened gigantic 65cm Clem weighed 30.2
> lbs, as delivered from Rivendell; no fenders, racks, etc. Not a lightweight
> and not ridiculously heavy; I like it.
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 6:53:49 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious about how much a typical (ie, no lightening surgery) Clem
>> weighs. Anyone?
>>
>> Not 45 lb, I'll bet.
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Joe Bernard]

I'm pro kickstand, regardless of weight. They're just dang useful. 

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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Joe Bernard]

"All the cool kids are doing it."

And me! ‍♂️

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[RBW] Re: Cherry Blossoms Season!

[Roberta]

Thank you all for the beautiful pictures.  I visited our Japanese house in 
Philadelphia expecting to see a backdrop of pink and white.  Alas, not the 
case but I'm glad I can view vicariously thru you and your pictures.  What 
wonder!

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:06:32 AM UTC-4, Takashi wrote:
>
> Cherry trees are blooming here in Nagano, Japan.
> There's no reason not to go out and check the trees!
> The first two pictures were taken last weekend, and the latter two this 
> weekend.
>
> If you have pictures of cherry blossoms you saw during a ride (or any 
> flower, for that matter), feel free to post them here.
> Because we can never have too many pictures of flowers!
>
> Takashi
>
>
>
> [image: cherryblossoms1.JPG][image: cherryblossoms2.JPG]
>
> [image: cherryblossoms3.JPG][image: cherryblossoms4.JPG]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Roberta]

Hi, Joyce.

I guess I would really it's makeover "how I would have built my bike three 
years ago when I got it, now that I know what I know three years later."  
This is actually the build I have in mind for my mixte retirement bike (or 
the bike I get when I no longer can swing my leg over my Joe A).   I 
haven't changed anything on my Joe A since I got it.

We are also swapping out the steel choco moose bars and stem for albatross 
heat treated aluminum and a Tallux stem, which I have and like on my AHH.  
That will give me a similar rise to the choc moose that I cannot get if I 
went with the choco norm.  We'll also be changing to a 1x11 from I think I 
have 3x8.  I usually stick with one chain ring and just go up and down two 
or three gears on that one anyway, so it won't feel any different for me, 
and trigger shifter (I can hear a collective gasp!).  I didn't do that for 
the weight savings, but because James and a few others highly recommended 
it for a 1x.

It could lose more weight, but there's a trade-off between weight and 
practicality.  Saddle is changed to B17 from a Flyer (change to non leather 
saddle would save even more weight), big Carradice Junior bag will be off 
soon.   Not sure if I'll go for the Banana Sack (it's my leaning) or just 
use a nylon trunk sack I already have. I'll also be careful about not 
overloading it with junk.  I'm keeping the rack, which is fairly light and 
too practical to lose. However, if I wanted to trade the rack, I could get 
a lighter one.  James recommended removing the kickstand, but I'm not 
convinced.  I do sometimes stand up my bike in the middle of the parking 
lot.  We'll see see about the kickstand when I visit him.

So, as you can see, I'm making, what I think, are practical improvements 
for performance and weight, without being a weight weenie.

See what inquiring about a $50 tire could do!

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 4:13:50 PM UTC-4, JAS wrote:
>
> I've been wanting to lighten up my Clem too, yet haven't done anything 
> about it. It's fine for riding, but what a beast to lift onto the rack or 
> the work stand! I've noticed I'm not as strong as in my younger days 
> (surprise, surprise) when I could lift my bikes onto the roof rack.  I now 
> have a hitch rack (1 UP) so its easier, but still takes a lot of "oomph" to 
> get the Clem onto it.  Inspired by the quest of my RivSisters for lighter 
> bikes, I might have to join the club and get some new wheels too. 
>  
> Roberta, besides the wheels and tires, I'm curious about the other changes 
> James and Candice have suggested.  Can you share here?
>
> Leah, I'll be patient and wait until you're ready to announce what 
> wheel/tire combo you'll be receiving from James at Analog unless the 
> anticipation is just too much and you have to spill the beans early.
>
> I really need the rear rack for pannier use (grocery getting) and do like 
> having a basket up front.  I realize removing the racks would do a lot to 
> make it lighter however it still needs to be practical.  New wheels should 
> be just the ticket!
>
> Joyce
>
>
>>
>> I'll be getting SP Dyno, tubeless with Gravel King Slicks 48mm, and a few 
>> changes to the bike to have it be lighter.  I worked with James and Candice 
>> when I bought my Joe A, three years ago.  They are super respectful of my 
>> limited knowledge and I trust them implicitly.  Plus, they do excellent 
>> work.  (I am also lucky to have Zach here in Philadelphia, too, and am 
>> looking forward to him opening his shop.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>

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[RBW] FS: nicer, longer crankarms

[Joe Bunik]

hi gang,

Finally getting back into the personal goals phase of this quarantine
period - rummaging through the garage of course being one of those ;-P

Here are a couple sets of nice square-taper arms in a longer length. I
tried these awhile back but didn't really take to them. No rings, but
I can likely set you up with something as needed.

- Dura Ace FC-7402 / 177.5mm arm length. 130mm double. Some clear
anodization wear and logo-fade, but certainly nothing catastrophic.
$85 shipped CONUS

- Takagi Tourney XC / 180mm arm length. 110/74mm triple. Minor scuffs
but again not bad at all. These were off a 1st gen Stumpjumper, back
before Shimano had a full-blown MTB group (Takagi was a component
maker but in the Shimano family, owned by an uncle???). $65 shipped
CONUS.

Let me know if you're interested or have any questions.
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[alfonsejr]

You're correct, Patrick. My un-lightened gigantic 65cm Clem weighed 30.2 
lbs, as delivered from Rivendell; no fenders, racks, etc. Not a lightweight 
and not ridiculously heavy; I like it.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 6:53:49 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'm curious about how much a typical (ie, no lightening surgery) Clem 
> weighs. Anyone?
>
> Not 45 lb, I'll bet. 
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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Leah Peterson]

I think he is planning on something polished for his website. I don’t know what 
will happen with his IG video after it’s gone live. 

I think you better join IG if you don’t have it, Patrick Moore. All the cool 
kids are doing it.

Sent from my iPad

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> He can post it afterward to the Analog Instagram feed, right? I'm asking you 
> Leah because you know all these Instagramy things, I don't even know how to 
> do a story. Whatever that is! 
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[RBW] Re: For salvage sale, Ibis Cousin IT tandem

[Corwin]

Hi Bill -

Great news. Bernie is a great guy. Tried to talk my ears off. Showed me a 
significant portion of his work via photos.

I would buy your tandem - but I just bought a high-end Hubbuhubbuh a couple 
months ago. My wife would try to kill me.

Good luck with your sale. Hope your Ibis finds a good home! Good tandems 
are hard to find.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:18:10 PM UTC-7, Bill Rhea wrote:
>
> I'm very bummed to announce the recent demise of my tandem.  The stoker 
> seat tube sheared through completely just above where it joins the bottom 
> bracket.
>
> Photos 
>  here, 
> including the detail photo of the broken seat tube.
>
> I bought this tandem brand new in 1994 when I worked for Wheelsmith in 
> Palo Alto, and it was an awesome family tandem for quite a while. Both my 
> kids rode on the back, and they're grown now.  I've got a Hubbuhubbuh on 
> the way, so this has to go!
>
>- XTR drivetrain
>- Specialized cranks
>- 26" Mavic M261 rims, 36H, Hugi 8-speed cassette rear hub, Hugi front 
>hub with SS spokes. Pretty much bomb proof!
>- Custom stem by Bernie Mikkelsen (I have the original Ibis flat stem 
>also, painted to match that is included)
>- Nitto Noodle 48cm bars
>- Tektro cantilever brakes
>- Ibis custom stoker stem
>
>
> A skilled builder might be able to replace the seat tube, but it'd be a 
> bit of work and might not be worth the money to do so.
>
> I'm posting to see if anybody is interested in purchasing this complete 
> (minus both seats, the stoker seatpost, and the Sackville bag in the 
> photos).  If not I'll likely part it out, keep some, sell some.
>
> If you know of any builder who might take this on, please let me know.  
> I'd really love to see it back on the road again, even with a new owner.  
> Thanks!
>
> Bill Rhea
> Napa, CA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Patrick Moore]

I'm curious about how much a typical (ie, no lightening surgery) Clem
weighs. Anyone?

Not 45 lb, I'll bet.

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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Joe Bernard]

He can post it afterward to the Analog Instagram feed, right? I'm asking you 
Leah because you know all these Instagramy things, I don't even know how to do 
a story. Whatever that is! 

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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Patrick Moore]

+1, since I don't do Instagram.

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> Will this be recorded? I can’t make it during the live show.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[Patrick Moore]

I took a closer look, and with the narrow rails and curved saddle end, you
can't slip a dowel between the rails as you might do on a Brooks.

As for snap hooks: No go either, since the bag has to be snugged up against
the underside of the saddle, which requires using the straps.

But I mitigated the on/off problem by replacing the too short (for this
purpose) OEM straps on the Camper with much longer ones with top quality
buckles; straps long enough to (relatively) easily poke through holes and
wrap around rails, with good buckles, make installation, if not instant, at
least faster and much easier.

Thanks again.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:38 PM David B  wrote:

> And now you've got me thinking!
> Another idea - use the dowel idea but mount the dowel piece directly and
> tightly to bag. To mount, have the bag twisted sideways, fit dowel parallel
> (and between saddle rails) then twist to fit the dowel on the inside of the
> rail area (with bag fitting outside the rail area). Then with a strap
> tightly around the seatpost the bag wouldn't be able to twist sideways to
> release.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:35:09 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>
>> To be clear in my previous post, I was suggesting 2 separate options.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:34:29 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if a double-ended snap hook would do the trick. I've seen
>>> setups where that piece was mounted onto the saddle, but I wager you could
>>> mount it onto the bag and then attach to the saddle rails.
>>> I suppose you could figure out to use 2 of these (
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/no-discontinued-nitto-saddlebag-grip-r50-hardware-r50-nut-bolt-ea-20027?_pos=24&_sid=7dade3af7&_ss=r)
>>> and use a wing nut on the inside of the bag to secure/loosen - problem with
>>> those is those washers with concave grips would be loose, so you'd to
>>> figure out a way to store those while the bag is off the bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Thanks. I've used the Bagman version, both with and without supports. I
 was hoping to find a quick on/off system that didn't require a permanent
 attachment to the saddle or seatpost; probably a forlorn hope indeed, tho'
 Roberta's solution (and someone's refinement of it) come pretty close to
 what I want.

 I think I'll just procrastinate until my new bike (with racks) is
 ready, then forget about the problem.

 On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:43 AM masmojo  wrote:

> Carradice Bagman Maybe?
>
> Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight
> wise.
>
> Would this be any help?
> https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus
>
> I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag
> I was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably 
> take.
> The strap holes on these are generous.
>
> I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.
>
> Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar
> problem.
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[RBW] Re: For salvage sale, Ibis Cousin IT tandem

[Bill Rhea]

Oh my goodness that is a beauty...

Thanks for sharing the photo, Ray!

Just spoke with his wife Mel again. Bernie is going to take on this repair, 
fillet brazing the new seat tube in and powder coating it.  They quoted a 
reasonable price that makes this project worthwhile. I'm very stoked about 
this!

I was also was happy to find original decals on chuckibis.com.

Now to find time to disassemble it and drive it Alameda, hopefully within 
the next few weeks...

Cheers,

-Bill Rhea
Napa



On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 3:02:50 PM UTC-7, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:18:10 PM UTC-7, Bill Rhea wrote: 
> > I'm very bummed to announce the recent demise of my tandem.  The stoker 
> seat tube sheared through completely just above where it joins the bottom 
> bracket. 
> > 
> > 
> > Photos here, including the detail photo of the broken seat tube. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I bought this tandem brand new in 1994 when I worked for Wheelsmith in 
> Palo Alto, and it was an awesome family tandem for quite a while. Both my 
> kids rode on the back, and they're grown now.  I've got a Hubbuhubbuh on 
> the way, so this has to go! 
> > XTR drivetrainSpecialized cranks26" Mavic M261 rims, 36H, Hugi 8-speed 
> cassette rear hub, Hugi front hub with SS spokes. Pretty much bomb 
> proof!Custom stem by Bernie Mikkelsen (I have the original Ibis flat stem 
> also, painted to match that is included)Nitto Noodle 48cm barsTektro 
> cantilever brakesIbis custom stoker stem 
> > 
> > 
> > A skilled builder might be able to replace the seat tube, but it'd be a 
> bit of work and might not be worth the money to do so. 
> > 
> >. Here’s the tandem Bernie built for me, years ago 
> > I'm posting to see if anybody is interested in purchasing this complete 
> (minus both seats, the stoker seatpost, and the Sackville bag in the 
> photos).  If not I'll likely part it out, keep some, sell some. 
> > 
> > 
> > If you know of any builder who might take this on, please let me know.  
> I'd really love to see it back on the road again, even with a new owner.  
> Thanks! 
> > 
> > 
> > Bill Rhea 
> > Napa, CA 
>
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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Leah Peterson]

James plans to make a video on tubeless that lives somewhere on his website, 
but he’s starting with this. This way folks can ask their questions. 

Sent from my iPad

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[RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[J Imler]

Will this be recorded? I can’t make it during the live show.

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[RBW] Re: FS Items: Fork, Stem, Crank, Shifter bits, Bar other small bits

[Mike Godwin]

TA crank, shifters and levers, pedals, cages, Spectrum fork all claimed. 
Still have some stainless steel Blackburn struts, and other small bits. 
Updated list on ibob forum. Mike

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 5:34:30 PM UTC-7, Mike Godwin wrote:
>
> Hi Folks, this is cross-posted on the I-bob list. Attached file is a photo 
> compilation from powerpoint to reduced file size PDF. If you would like the 
> source photos, please contact me. As always, if my asking price seems high 
> throw me an offer. 
> 1” threadless Spectrum custom fork, Spectrum dropouts, Henry James crown, 
> single dropout eyelets, 5mm threaded boss under fork crown, drilled for 
> recessed brake. Comes with Chris King 1" - 9/8" headset bits.  941 grams; 
> 26.8 crown race (as measured with mechanical caliper); >> 356 mm axle to 
> brake mount, 375 mm axle to base of crown race; >> 325 mm steer tube; 55 mm 
> rake. Geometric trail on Lemond Zurich is 38 mm (74 HA) running 650b wheels.
>  Photos with 700x32 tire on an A23 rim, 31 mm wide actual, 30 mm height 
> from outside edge of rim; short reach brakes with pads at bottom of slot. 
>  38 mm width at tire area. $140 shipped.  Please email me if you would 
> like to see the higher resolution source photos. As always make an offer if 
> the price seems too high. (Fork is the same price. IIRC that was I paid 
> Dr Jim "Suntour Jim" Bailey.)
>
> 1 pair, H Plus SON TB14 rims, practically new. 32 hole, double eyelet, box 
> section, gray anodized, welded joint, machined brake surface straight and 
> round. Take off the Della Santa (the bike looked brand new when I got it, 
> surely a garage queen). 500 g. 611 ERD. 18 mm internal width / 23 mm 
> external width.  (DT spokes too if you want them).   $90  shipped 
> bikeflights.
>
>  
>
> Silver Bar End pods with Shimano down tube cable stops.  30 shipped
>
>  
>
> Shimano 7400 8 spd/friction Bar End Shifters, minor scrapes on right 
> shifter, complete.   30 shipped
>
>  
>
> Shimano Sora FD-3000 34,9.  Free with something esle, or 12 shipped.
>
>  
>
> Suntour XC Sport FD 28,6. Cage shape like a Cyclone, but no cutouts in the 
> outer cage plate. No fussy endless band clamp. Free with something else, or 
> 12 shipped  
>
>  
>
> Nitto B136 bars. 26,0 clamp diameter, 44 cm wide, minor tape residue, 
> Nitto crest in very fine condition.  30 shipped
>
>  
>
> Nitto MTC-01, modified.  Threadless stem adaptor 22,2 to 25,4. Total 
> length 11 cm, knurled length 3.5 cm. Aluminum cinch bolt, 72 grams.  25 
> shipped. 
>
>  
>
> Tektro brake levers, black. The lever body is shaped similar to Shimano 
> brifters. The levers have the QR button to get a little extra space when 
> opening the brake. 15 shipped 
>
>  
>
> Suntour XC two-bolt seat post. 27,2 diameter.  Received from fellow 
> ibob-lister Mr Ulmer as NOS a while back. 275 mm (10.75 inches) total 
> length, 200 mm (8 inches) above min insert line. In fabulous condition.   65 
> shipped. 
>
>  
> Step-on flat pedals. VP-500, black. Cast aluminum with nubs on platform, 
> both sides. 15 shipped
>
> Chris King stainless steel cages. 20 shipped, or take them away with 
> something else. 
>
>  
> TA Specialties Pro Vis 5 crank and TA three piece bottom bracket for 68 mm 
> bb shell.  170 arms, 46-40-26 rings, pedal washers, English threads 
> throughout. Threads and tapers in great condition. All TA rings.  125 
> shipped.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Joe Bernard]

Sell the Surly! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Keith Weaver]

I'll chime in and say that I rode a 50 cm Atlantis at Riv last spring, but
I'm not sure what the wheel size was. My PBH is 78-79 cm, Will said he
would recommend the 47 cm for me, but they didn't have one built up to
ride.

The 50 cm felt great to me, I'm sorely tempted by that CL listing. My issue
is that I already own a Surly Disc Trucker, that has a large amount of
overlap with the Atlantis. I'm sure I'd like the Riv better, but am having
a hard time justifying the new purchase.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:08 PM Pancake  wrote:

> PBH 73cm means no luck with the 50cm Atlantis =(
> Seller is very pleasant and helpful, someone should get this bike
> including the nice dynamo and light:
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-2018-rivendell-bicycle-works/7106843471.html
>
> *So now I'm in the market for a 47cm Cheviot (listed on the geometry page
> but not as a frame option on the sales page?) or 45cm Clem L. *
>
> Thanks for all the help, hopefully someone else picks this up.
> Abe
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:29:22 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to convince my wife to remeasure her PBH in a bit, but I
>> strongly suspect this is a bit too big for her (5'2", PBH TBD).
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:24 PM Joe Bernard
>>
>>> Abe, here's the PBH chart (which is harder to find on the site than it
>>> should be). Minimum PBH is 80cm, minimum saddle height 69cm (assuming 170mm
>>> cranks). It would fit me great at 5'-6" with Albas or Boscos.
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
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Re: [RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Joe Bernard]

Ah, good catch on the 47cm Cheviot. We're expecting (info via Leah Bicycle 
Belle via Will @ Riv) a redesigned/updated version around August. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Pancake]

PBH 73cm means no luck with the 50cm Atlantis =(
Seller is very pleasant and helpful, someone should get this bike including 
the nice dynamo and light: 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-2018-rivendell-bicycle-works/7106843471.html

*So now I'm in the market for a 47cm Cheviot (listed on the geometry page 
but not as a frame option on the sales page?) or 45cm Clem L. *

Thanks for all the help, hopefully someone else picks this up.
Abe

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:29:22 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>
> I'm going to convince my wife to remeasure her PBH in a bit, but I 
> strongly suspect this is a bit too big for her (5'2", PBH TBD).
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:24 PM Joe Bernard 
>
>> Abe, here's the PBH chart (which is harder to find on the site than it 
>> should be). Minimum PBH is 80cm, minimum saddle height 69cm (assuming 170mm 
>> cranks). It would fit me great at 5'-6" with Albas or Boscos. 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>>
>

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[RBW] Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Tomorrow’s the day! From Analog’s Instagram page today:

LIVE from Analog HQ: A free tubeless clinic right here on Instagram Live, 
Wednesday 5 pm EST. Join us while we ramble about how to set up, maintain and 
repair tubeless stuff. We’ll also have a list of the top five Melvins albums, 
maybe cocktails, and a micro shop tour. Be there!

TO VIEW: Go to Analog’s Instagram page and click their profile picture to view 
their LIVE video. You can watch LIVE videos on the Instagram app or on 
instagram.com. You will be able to send comments and questions during the 
session. Can’t wait to meet you on another platform, friends.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Leah Peterson]

Joyce, we’re #Rivsisters - the rules don’t apply to YOU. I sent you a PM. Check 
your inbox!

I’m keeping my racks and basket too. I’m like you - we gotta have be able to 
bring our treasures.
,
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 14, 2020, at 1:13 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been wanting to lighten up my Clem too, yet haven't done anything about 
> it. It's fine for riding, but what a beast to lift onto the rack or the work 
> stand! I've noticed I'm not as strong as in my younger days (surprise, 
> surprise) when I could lift my bikes onto the roof rack.  I now have a hitch 
> rack (1 UP) so its easier, but still takes a lot of "oomph" to get the Clem 
> onto it.  Inspired by the quest of my RivSisters for lighter bikes, I might 
> have to join the club and get some new wheels too. 
>  
> Roberta, besides the wheels and tires, I'm curious about the other changes 
> James and Candice have suggested.  Can you share here?
> 
> Leah, I'll be patient and wait until you're ready to announce what wheel/tire 
> combo you'll be receiving from James at Analog unless the anticipation is 
> just too much and you have to spill the beans early.
> 
> I really need the rear rack for pannier use (grocery getting) and do like 
> having a basket up front.  I realize removing the racks would do a lot to 
> make it lighter however it still needs to be practical.  New wheels should be 
> just the ticket!
> 
> Joyce
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'll be getting SP Dyno, tubeless with Gravel King Slicks 48mm, and a few 
>> changes to the bike to have it be lighter.  I worked with James and Candice 
>> when I bought my Joe A, three years ago.  They are super respectful of my 
>> limited knowledge and I trust them implicitly.  Plus, they do excellent 
>> work.  (I am also lucky to have Zach here in Philadelphia, too, and am 
>> looking forward to him opening his shop.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[ted]

Joyce, you’ve likely thought of this but just in case ...
My sister puts her large Clem l on her hitch rack one end at a time. That way 
she never lifts the full weight of the bike at once. Still awkward, but 
somewhat more manageable.

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Birdman]

And here's a look inside. I bet you can guess where the crack runs:

[image: Unknown-3.jpeg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Joe Bernard]

Oof, I believe you are correct. A 50cm Cheviot or 45cm Clem L might be the 
ticket for her if she's looking for a Riv. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Abe Gardner]

I'm going to convince my wife to remeasure her PBH in a bit, but I strongly
suspect this is a bit too big for her (5'2", PBH TBD).

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:24 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Abe, here's the PBH chart (which is harder to find on the site than it
> should be). Minimum PBH is 80cm, minimum saddle height 69cm (assuming 170mm
> cranks). It would fit me great at 5'-6" with Albas or Boscos.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>
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[RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Joe Bernard]

Abe, here's the PBH chart (which is harder to find on the site than it should 
be). Minimum PBH is 80cm, minimum saddle height 69cm (assuming 170mm cranks). 
It would fit me great at 5'-6" with Albas or Boscos. 

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh



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[RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Pancake]

Great sleuthing everyone! I emailed the seller and they referred me to the 
geometry page as well and told me it’s a 2018 bike. 

Can anyone advise me on the correct PBH range for that model? If it’s a fit 
I’ll be driving to Santa Cruz ASAP!

Thanks for the quick work everyone!
Abe

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[JAS]

I've been wanting to lighten up my Clem too, yet haven't done anything 
about it. It's fine for riding, but what a beast to lift onto the rack or 
the work stand! I've noticed I'm not as strong as in my younger days 
(surprise, surprise) when I could lift my bikes onto the roof rack.  I now 
have a hitch rack (1 UP) so its easier, but still takes a lot of "oomph" to 
get the Clem onto it.  Inspired by the quest of my RivSisters for lighter 
bikes, I might have to join the club and get some new wheels too. 
 
Roberta, besides the wheels and tires, I'm curious about the other changes 
James and Candice have suggested.  Can you share here?

Leah, I'll be patient and wait until you're ready to announce what 
wheel/tire combo you'll be receiving from James at Analog unless the 
anticipation is just too much and you have to spill the beans early.

I really need the rear rack for pannier use (grocery getting) and do like 
having a basket up front.  I realize removing the racks would do a lot to 
make it lighter however it still needs to be practical.  New wheels should 
be just the ticket!

Joyce


>
> I'll be getting SP Dyno, tubeless with Gravel King Slicks 48mm, and a few 
> changes to the bike to have it be lighter.  I worked with James and Candice 
> when I bought my Joe A, three years ago.  They are super respectful of my 
> limited knowledge and I trust them implicitly.  Plus, they do excellent 
> work.  (I am also lucky to have Zach here in Philadelphia, too, and am 
> looking forward to him opening his shop.)
>
>
>
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cherry Blossoms Season!

[Steven Sweedler]

Great pictures

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:27 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Here in Vancouver, BC we have about 43,000 cherry blossom trees - so this
> time of year is spectacular here, and is probably second to only Japan for
> drawing tourists for them!
>
> Here are a few photos I've taken in the past couple weeks; I haven't gone
> out of my way to photograph the blossoms but always have some on my camera
> roll around this time each year.  The photo of the two trees with the
> mountain in the background is just a few steps from my front door.
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Joe Bernard]

Funny story, Joyce: I would have picked the Homer Blue FJS if I'd had the 
choice. Fortunately most Riv colors look great 

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[JAS]

Joe, what a beautiful bike!  The bars look terrific.  I love that grilver 
color and wanted it when I got the Clem.  (Alas, the price was right on a 
second-hand green one.)  

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 12:07:16 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Like buttah, Eric. I was slightly nervous it would be a size too small - 
> you can see I have a good bit of post and stem showing - but two things 
> worked in my favor: 1. I need an upright position to accommodate my 
> arthritis so the toptube length works with a long stem, 2. A ladyperson 
> friend of mine has recently informed me that all guys lie to themselves 
> about their height. I told her I was 5'-7" and she said, "Right, you're 
> 5'-6." I believe she's right  
>
> It's a great bike, thanks for selling it to me!

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[RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Joe Bernard]

Update after chatting with Will on the Rivbike Instagram PM: Both exist. The 
Craigslist and Garage Sale bikes are 26", the newest batch of 50cm Atlantis are 
650B 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[Patrick Moore]

One more! Will think about this one also. Thanks.

But given that this sort of big-bag use on this particular (1999 Joe Starck
stripped-down fixie gofast lightweight) will be very sporadic and
occasional, and given that I still hope Chauncey won't take 6 months on the
new "Riv-Road-like errand bike*" frame, I am thinking that, after all, the
solution that may be simplest, most secure, and sufficiently fast might be
simply to replace the OEM straps on the Camper with longer ones, or even
toe straps, and insert these with both ends on the outside of the flap so
that it will be much easier to strap them to and unstrap them from the
Flite's saddle rails. But I'm going to try the dowel suggestion above
first. I expect that one would need to strap the dowel to the frame rails
as well as strap the bag to the seatpost, to keep the dowel sliding
forward; but I'll give this one a hands-on try, and report if successful.

*Just for the record, this is a project that Riv would probably not touch
with a 50 ft pole, even tho' it is to be based on my 2003 road custom,
because it is designed around a hub gear with all sorts of related and
complementary, and all very weird, custom braze-ones and internal routing
features, not to mention custom racks. So I'm not taking bread or money
from Riv's mouths or hands.


On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:38 PM David B  wrote:

> And now you've got me thinking!
> Another idea - use the dowel idea but mount the dowel piece directly and
> tightly to bag. To mount, have the bag twisted sideways, fit dowel parallel
> (and between saddle rails) then twist to fit the dowel on the inside of the
> rail area (with bag fitting outside the rail area). Then with a strap
> tightly around the seatpost the bag wouldn't be able to twist sideways to
> release.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:35:09 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>
>> To be clear in my previous post, I was suggesting 2 separate options.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:34:29 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if a double-ended snap hook would do the trick. I've seen
>>> setups where that piece was mounted onto the saddle, but I wager you could
>>> mount it onto the bag and then attach to the saddle rails.
>>> I suppose you could figure out to use 2 of these (
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/no-discontinued-nitto-saddlebag-grip-r50-hardware-r50-nut-bolt-ea-20027?_pos=24&_sid=7dade3af7&_ss=r)
>>> and use a wing nut on the inside of the bag to secure/loosen - problem with
>>> those is those washers with concave grips would be loose, so you'd to
>>> figure out a way to store those while the bag is off the bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Thanks. I've used the Bagman version, both with and without supports. I
 was hoping to find a quick on/off system that didn't require a permanent
 attachment to the saddle or seatpost; probably a forlorn hope indeed, tho'
 Roberta's solution (and someone's refinement of it) come pretty close to
 what I want.

 I think I'll just procrastinate until my new bike (with racks) is
 ready, then forget about the problem.

 On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:43 AM masmojo  wrote:

> Carradice Bagman Maybe?
>
> Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight
> wise.
>
> Would this be any help?
> https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus
>
> I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag
> I was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably 
> take.
> The strap holes on these are generous.
>
> I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.
>
> Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar
> problem.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, David; 2 suggestions worth investigating.

Now that you mention it, I do recall someone, on some list, some years ago,
describing QR saddlebag attachment with snap hooks and I may just have a
couple in one of my boxes ...

"To be clear in my previous post, I was suggesting 2 separate options."
Yes, I understood that; twice the value! Thanks again.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:34 PM David B  wrote:

> I wonder if a double-ended snap hook would do the trick. I've seen setups
> where that piece was mounted onto the saddle, but I wager you could mount
> it onto the bag and then attach to the saddle rails.
> I suppose you could figure out to use 2 of these (
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/no-discontinued-nitto-saddlebag-grip-r50-hardware-r50-nut-bolt-ea-20027?_pos=24&_sid=7dade3af7&_ss=r)
> and use a wing nut on the inside of the bag to secure/loosen - problem with
> those is those washers with concave grips would be loose, so you'd to
> figure out a way to store those while the bag is off the bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, Parts, Backpacks and more. Continuing the COVID Clean out

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

UPDATE - 
MW Sanction bag SOLD

All the rest available and prices negotiable. I'm trying to put together 
funds to buy a new set of wheels, cassette, and dyno hub. Help a brother 
out people! 

thanks
A

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:01:47 AM UTC-7, Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>
>  
>
> Road Runner Bags MIDDLE EARTH Jammer bag, brand new with tags still on. 
> $140 
> https://roadrunnerbags.us/collections/handlebar-bags/products/middle-earth-jammer-handlebar-bag
>
>  
>
> Nitto N177 Noodle Handlebars, 46CM, new, never used, in package - 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-noodle-handlebar - $75
>
>  
>
> Chrome Industries CITIZEN Messenger Bag, brand new, never used. Limited 
> edition in all reflective silver. Same as the link except for the all 
> silver reflective, email me for pics. $90 - 
> https://www.chromeindustries.com/product/citizen-medal-messenger/BG-294.html?dwvar_BG-294_color=BKSL_BG-294_size=NA=messenger_bags
>
>  
>
> Mission Workshop SANCTION backpack, Black. Used but in excellent 
> condition. $75 - 
> https://missionworkshop.com/collections/backpacks/products/the-sanction-rucksack-backpack
>
>  
>
> Ruthworks Custom Brevet in brown canvas and leather - it was on a bike for 
> a hot minute and is in stellar condition - $125 - email for pics
>
> matching Ruthworks Custom Standard Wedge in brown canvas and leather - 
> Never used. - $100
>
> Or $200 for the set
>
>  
>
> Chrome Industries URBAN EX Rolltop Drybag backpack, black. Lightweight, 
> 100% waterproof. Similar to the link but an earlier model of the same bag. 
> Used on 1 bikepacking trip, excellent condition. $60 - 
> https://www.chromeindustries.com/product/urban-ex-rolltop-18l-backpack/BG-217.html?dwvar_BG-217_color=BKBK_BG-217_size=NA=backpacks
>
>  
>
> Ortlieb VELOCITY waterproof backpack, high viz yellow and black. Used but 
> in excellent condition. 100% waterproof. Similar to the link, but just an 
> earlier model. $60 - https://www.ortlieb.com/usa/velocity-2020+R4304
>
>  
>
> Trash Messenger Bags Custom RED "Wastebasket" fanny pack/mini messenger 
> bag, never used - 
> https://www.trashmessengerbags.com/#/products/wastebasket - $40
>
>  
>
> small Velo Orange Saddlebag in black canvas and brown leather trim, never 
> used, like a slimmer wider Sackville saddlesack - $20 - email for pics
>
>  
>
> Origin 8 Pro Uno-S saddle brown, brand new - 
> https://www.amazon.com/Origin8-Pro-Uno-S-Saddle/dp/B002PTSBNM?th=1 - $20 
> shipping included
>
>  
>
> Velo Orange Microfiber touring saddle with saddlebag loops, in brown, 
> never used - 
> https://velo-orange.com/products/microfiber-touring-saddle-wide - $45 
> shipping included
>
>  
>
> Public Bikes Premium Saddle, Antique Brown, new in package - 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G3HP4TA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>
>  - $25 shipping included
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Christopher Cote]

Well, I guess I would have lost that wager! I took another gamble and 
looked at San Francisco CL, and there it was in "nearby areas"! Yep, MIT 
50cm Atlantis.

Chris


On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The MIT 50 is 26", the Rivbike site has it designated wrong on its frame 
> page. See the Garage Sale frame. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-50cm-atlantis-demo-bike
>
> That Craigslist price dropped this morning, go get it right now!
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Birdman]

Update: Will found a replacement BB shell and Quickbeam decals at Riv HQ 
and they're on their way. I'm in touch with a frame builder friend in town, 
who may take on the project. I don't have any details on the work involved, 
but like James has said above, it does sound like a big job. I hope he'll 
take it on. I think the QB is worth it, especially since a 66cm is so hard 
to come by, as long as the cost doesn't go beyond the cost of a replacement 
frame set. I'll update the post as I learn more.

In the meantime, James, I'm also curious to know more.

Isaac



On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-7, Rob Kristoff wrote:
>
> James, is it because in this case the tubes under the lugs are damaged? So 
> you'd have to replace them? 
>
> I'd always heard from Riv etc how repairable lugged steel is, but just 
> realized how that always assumes the lug itself hasn't broken.
>
> Best, Rob
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Another Clem fender conundrum

[Jason Fuller]

Fender installation is an exercise in patience and attention to detail, for 
sure.  I just ordered a set of Simworks / Honjo 74mm fenders for my Clem H 
45 will be interesting to see how I make out with them, as I have to 
re-radius them to fit the 26" wheels then shoe-horn them into the frame 
(some trimming / forming will be necessary around the seat stays and chain 
stays).  I've installed a few sets of aluminum fenders now, so I've got the 
skill set now, but this one'll be a challenge. 

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[RBW] Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Joe Bernard]

Like buttah, Eric. I was slightly nervous it would be a size too small - you 
can see I have a good bit of post and stem showing - but two things worked in 
my favor: 1. I need an upright position to accommodate my arthritis so the 
toptube length works with a long stem, 2. A ladyperson friend of mine has 
recently informed me that all guys lie to themselves about their height. I told 
her I was 5'-7" and she said, "Right, you're 5'-6." I believe she's right 

It's a great bike, thanks for selling it to me!

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[RBW] Re: 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Jason Fuller]

Ha, I had noticed that the 50cm was listed as 26" in the geometry page, but 
650B on the frameset page.  I emailed Will about the discrepancy a little 
while ago, but hadn't heard back about it.  Now I know the truth!

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[RBW] 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Joe Bernard]

The MIT 50 is 26", the Rivbike site has it designated wrong on its frame page. 
See the Garage Sale frame. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-50cm-atlantis-demo-bike

That Craigslist price dropped this morning, go get it right now!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[David B]

And now you've got me thinking!
Another idea - use the dowel idea but mount the dowel piece directly and 
tightly to bag. To mount, have the bag twisted sideways, fit dowel parallel 
(and between saddle rails) then twist to fit the dowel on the inside of the 
rail area (with bag fitting outside the rail area). Then with a strap 
tightly around the seatpost the bag wouldn't be able to twist sideways to 
release. 


On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:35:09 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> To be clear in my previous post, I was suggesting 2 separate options.
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:34:29 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if a double-ended snap hook would do the trick. I've seen setups 
>> where that piece was mounted onto the saddle, but I wager you could mount 
>> it onto the bag and then attach to the saddle rails. 
>> I suppose you could figure out to use 2 of these (
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/no-discontinued-nitto-saddlebag-grip-r50-hardware-r50-nut-bolt-ea-20027?_pos=24&_sid=7dade3af7&_ss=r)
>>  
>> and use a wing nut on the inside of the bag to secure/loosen - problem with 
>> those is those washers with concave grips would be loose, so you'd to 
>> figure out a way to store those while the bag is off the bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks. I've used the Bagman version, both with and without supports. I 
>>> was hoping to find a quick on/off system that didn't require a permanent 
>>> attachment to the saddle or seatpost; probably a forlorn hope indeed, tho' 
>>> Roberta's solution (and someone's refinement of it) come pretty close to 
>>> what I want.
>>>
>>> I think I'll just procrastinate until my new bike (with racks) is ready, 
>>> then forget about the problem.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:43 AM masmojo  wrote:
>>>
 Carradice Bagman Maybe?

 Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight 
 wise.

 Would this be any help? https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus

 I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag 
 I was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably 
 take. 
 The strap holes on these are generous.

 I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.

 Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar 
 problem.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[David B]

I wonder if a double-ended snap hook would do the trick. I've seen setups 
where that piece was mounted onto the saddle, but I wager you could mount 
it onto the bag and then attach to the saddle rails. 
I suppose you could figure out to use 2 of these 
(https://www.rivbike.com/products/no-discontinued-nitto-saddlebag-grip-r50-hardware-r50-nut-bolt-ea-20027?_pos=24&_sid=7dade3af7&_ss=r)
 
and use a wing nut on the inside of the bag to secure/loosen - problem with 
those is those washers with concave grips would be loose, so you'd to 
figure out a way to store those while the bag is off the bike.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks. I've used the Bagman version, both with and without supports. I 
> was hoping to find a quick on/off system that didn't require a permanent 
> attachment to the saddle or seatpost; probably a forlorn hope indeed, tho' 
> Roberta's solution (and someone's refinement of it) come pretty close to 
> what I want.
>
> I think I'll just procrastinate until my new bike (with racks) is ready, 
> then forget about the problem.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:43 AM masmojo  > wrote:
>
>> Carradice Bagman Maybe?
>>
>> Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight 
>> wise.
>>
>> Would this be any help? https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus
>>
>> I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag I 
>> was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably take. 
>> The strap holes on these are generous.
>>
>> I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.
>>
>> Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar 
>> problem.
>>
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>> 
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[David B]

To be clear in my previous post, I was suggesting 2 separate options.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:34:29 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> I wonder if a double-ended snap hook would do the trick. I've seen setups 
> where that piece was mounted onto the saddle, but I wager you could mount 
> it onto the bag and then attach to the saddle rails. 
> I suppose you could figure out to use 2 of these (
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/no-discontinued-nitto-saddlebag-grip-r50-hardware-r50-nut-bolt-ea-20027?_pos=24&_sid=7dade3af7&_ss=r)
>  
> and use a wing nut on the inside of the bag to secure/loosen - problem with 
> those is those washers with concave grips would be loose, so you'd to 
> figure out a way to store those while the bag is off the bike.
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I've used the Bagman version, both with and without supports. I 
>> was hoping to find a quick on/off system that didn't require a permanent 
>> attachment to the saddle or seatpost; probably a forlorn hope indeed, tho' 
>> Roberta's solution (and someone's refinement of it) come pretty close to 
>> what I want.
>>
>> I think I'll just procrastinate until my new bike (with racks) is ready, 
>> then forget about the problem.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:43 AM masmojo  wrote:
>>
>>> Carradice Bagman Maybe?
>>>
>>> Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight 
>>> wise.
>>>
>>> Would this be any help? https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus
>>>
>>> I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag I 
>>> was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably take. 
>>> The strap holes on these are generous.
>>>
>>> I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.
>>>
>>> Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar 
>>> problem.
>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Rob Kristoff]

James, is it because in this case the tubes under the lugs are damaged? So 
you'd have to replace them? 

I'd always heard from Riv etc how repairable lugged steel is, but just realized 
how that always assumes the lug itself hasn't broken.

Best, Rob

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[RBW] 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Christopher Cote]

The original Toyo-built Atlantis was available in 47, 51, 53, and 56cm sizes 
with 26" wheels. I'd wager it's a 51cm that the seller is measuring the seat 
tube center-to-center.

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. I've used the Bagman version, both with and without supports. I was
hoping to find a quick on/off system that didn't require a permanent
attachment to the saddle or seatpost; probably a forlorn hope indeed, tho'
Roberta's solution (and someone's refinement of it) come pretty close to
what I want.

I think I'll just procrastinate until my new bike (with racks) is ready,
then forget about the problem.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:43 AM masmojo  wrote:

> Carradice Bagman Maybe?
>
> Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight
> wise.
>
> Would this be any help? https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus
>
> I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag I
> was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably take.
> The strap holes on these are generous.
>
> I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.
>
> Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar
> problem.
>
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[RBW] Re: Ideas for very unobtrusive and very QR saddlebag mounting system for non-Brooks saddles

[masmojo]

Carradice Bagman Maybe?

Well, I guess you've considered that; yes it is sort of limited weight wise.

Would this be any help? https://www.hobopieces.com/product/the-restuvus

I have one of those on (surprisingly) a Brooks saddle, because the bag I 
was mounting has much wider straps than the Brook could comfortably take. 
The strap holes on these are generous.

I have it on my Bombora with a Nitto R-14(?) rack for support.

Like the Bagman a 55+ dollar solution to what should be a 15 dollar problem.

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Re: [RBW] Re: For salvage sale, Ibis Cousin IT tandem

[Will Rhea]

Hi Corwin,

Just spoke with Bernie's wife Mel yesterday.  Sent them photos; they're
quoting the repair and paint.  Turns out you can still get NOS decals for
these! http://chuckibis.com/decals/

I liked working with Bernie for the stem - he had me go buy a
strong-looking 1 1/8" quill stem and he then modified it, building the
extension and 26.0 clamp.  Great guy, great work, reasonable cost. I'm glad
he's still working, I trust him to do a good job, I bet it will be even
stronger than before 

The plan is to put this up for sale once it's fixed.  If anybody's
interested, let me know Buyer can pick the color.  It's what they
called a Large/Small, but it can fit a pretty broad range of sizes.  I'm
6'3", 90cm PBH and the bars are level with the seat.  My girlfriend is 5'9"
but I've had an 8 YO on it before with crank shortenersI don't know
that I'd recommend it for capn's bigger than me, but those with a bit
shorter PBH would probably fit it better.

Cheers,

-br



On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:55 PM Corwin  wrote:

> Hi Bill -
>
> Bernie did several things for me about a year or so ago. I also know he
> did a custom stem for Grant about six months ago. He walks with a limp and
> his partner does a lot of the setup and stuff Bernie cannot manage with
> just one hand. He still does excellent work though. And dirt cheap based on
> my experience.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 5:05:10 PM UTC-7, Bill Rhea wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Joe, I will reach out to him.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -br
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 1:31 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Rex in Sacramento should be able to help if you want to fix that
>>> frame. Or Fitz in Santa Rosa..I'm not sure if he normally does repairs but
>>> he's a good frame builder.
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[RBW] 50cm MIT Atlantis with 26” wheels?

[Pancake]

Someone is selling their Atlantis on Craigslist - it has 26” wheels (in the 
photos and description) but the frame size is listed as 50cm ... I thought only 
the 47cm frame has 26” wheels, is that right or is there some way a 50cm frame 
would have 26” wheels?

Hoping it’s actually a 47cm so I can get it for my shortie / wife.

Abe

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[RBW] Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Eric G@rs]

Nice build, Joe! How does it ride?

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[RBW] Re: Another Clem fender conundrum

[masmojo]

Jim, Wine cork & whatever can work & work very well; I've made spacers out 
of a variety of things, but what I will suggest in this instance is 
something different.

Try threading in a long screw, but instead of a cork or spacer, install a 
fairly stiff spring!
The spring will keep the fended in place, but move out of the way should 
something get jammed in there OR have a little give should you need it when 
removing the wheel..

Cheers

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Fryfam]

Ordered mine from Blue Lug as well. Great shop.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-7, Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>
>
> Nice Build! I have Loscos on my FJSr as well, although I chose a shorter 
> stem and lopped off an inch or so of the handlebars instead. Love these 
> bars, and love the sexy curves. Even though they're OOS at Riv, they appear 
> to still be available from Blue Lug. That's where I got mine, well before 
> Riv carried them.
> nitto-losco-bar-silver.html 
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Another Clem fender conundrum

[Patrick Moore]

It's hard to tell without a full profile view, but it looks as if the
curvature of the fender is too small for the room allowed by the frame.
Besides spacers at the bridges, you can re-shape the fender to adjust the
arc: squeezing the fender narrower will expand its arc. It doesn't take a
great deal of width adjustment to make a considerable amount of arc
adjustment.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:46 PM Jim Bronson  wrote:

> Well after 3 years, I decided to finally put the fenders on that I had
> purchased with the bike.  There was a drenching on a rather cold day (for
> Texas in March) a few weeks back, and I can't have that road grime all over
> me again.
>
> Thoughts of, oh why oh why didn't I just pay the $40 or whatever it was
> to have Rivendell put them on before shipping the bike? Come to mind at
> times like these.
>
> So anyway the front fender went pretty well but the back fender was a
> train wreck/dumpster fire (pick one).  The fender line is a disaster.
> There must be at least three inches between the fender and the tire near
> the seat stay.  I put the bike in the stand and took the fender back off.
>
> I need a long bolt and something like a wine cork to create some shim
> space there.  I have seen these done before on other bikes
>
> Does anyone have suggestions?  I would prefer to order the bolt online.  I
> have lots of wine corks and other assorted washers lying around.
>
> Pics at https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTC6BnG1T9WXK2jXA of the front and rear.
>
> Jim
> Leander, TX
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Arthur Mayfield]

Nice Build! I have Loscos on my FJSr as well, although I chose a shorter 
stem and lopped off an inch or so of the handlebars instead. Love these 
bars, and love the sexy curves. Even though they're OOS at Riv, they appear 
to still be available from Blue Lug. That's where I got mine, well before 
Riv carried them.
nitto-losco-bar-silver.html 


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[RBW] FS: Bike Buddy bottle mount

[Ginz]

Here's a blast from the past.

Bike Buddy allows one to mount a large bottle, vacuum bottle, etc to your 
frame's existing bottle mount. If you dislike the look of Voile straps, 
this is for you.

https://www.bikebuddy.co.uk/shop.asp

This is the MK3 version which includes the quick release feature.I may 
have test fit it but never rode with it, Not even once.

$15 shipped in USA.  


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Re: [RBW] Another Clem fender conundrum

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Jim,

I have used a wine cork with a long bolt to address this. There is also this 
item from Velo-Orange that might help: 

https://velo-orange.com/products/spring-thing?_pos=1&_sid=3accc6dce&_ss=r

You could probably put something similar together with a trip to the hardware 
store. 

Good luck!

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well after 3 years, I decided to finally put the fenders on that I had 
> purchased with the bike.  There was a drenching on a rather cold day (for 
> Texas in March) a few weeks back, and I can't have that road grime all over 
> me again.
> 
> Thoughts of, oh why oh why didn't I just pay the $40 or whatever it was to 
> have Rivendell put them on before shipping the bike? Come to mind at times 
> like these.
> 
> So anyway the front fender went pretty well but the back fender was a train 
> wreck/dumpster fire (pick one).  The fender line is a disaster.  There must 
> be at least three inches between the fender and the tire near the seat stay.  
> I put the bike in the stand and took the fender back off.
> 
> I need a long bolt and something like a wine cork to create some shim space 
> there.  I have seen these done before on other bikes
> 
> Does anyone have suggestions?  I would prefer to order the bolt online.  I 
> have lots of wine corks and other assorted washers lying around.
> 
> Pics at https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTC6BnG1T9WXK2jXA of the front and rear.
> 
> Jim
> Leander, TX
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Joe Bernard]

Yep, Will mentioned in the newsletter (which y'all should sign up for) that 
"this will probably be out of stock before you read this" and I believed him. I 
put my order in practically before I was sure I had a bike for them! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: For salvage sale, Ibis Cousin IT tandem

[Corwin]

Hi Bill -

Bernie did several things for me about a year or so ago. I also know he did 
a custom stem for Grant about six months ago. He walks with a limp and his 
partner does a lot of the setup and stuff Bernie cannot manage with just 
one hand. He still does excellent work though. And dirt cheap based on my 
experience.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 5:05:10 PM UTC-7, Bill Rhea wrote:
>
> Thanks Joe, I will reach out to him.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -br
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 1:31 PM Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Steve Rex in Sacramento should be able to help if you want to fix that 
>> frame. Or Fitz in Santa Rosa..I'm not sure if he normally does repairs but 
>> he's a good frame builder. 
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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Ed Fausto]

Arrrg! The Losco bars are out of stock!
Well, I will just have to wait for the next shipment.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ed Fausto  wrote:

> Very nice build Joe!
> I better take a look at those Losco bars from Riv :-)
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Here's a neat bike I just built. Frame is circuitously courtesy of Ray
>> Varella, with a stop with Eric in San Francisco before I acquired the
>> rights.
>>
>> 51.5 x 54.4
>> Sugino XD 152cm cranks (I'm a shorty believer) knocked down to a 36t ring
>> and Silver guard, 18t freewheel.
>> (I have a 16/19 DOS ENO on order and the cranks may end up 38/30, this
>> was the stuff I had around for starters and so far the gearing works for me)
>> Phil hubs, Mavic Open Pro rims,
>> Compass Barlow Pass
>> Silver nee Tektro R559 brakes, Avid levers
>> Brooks B17 honey
>> Nitto lugged post
>> Technomic stem
>> Ergon grips
>> And last but not least...LOSCO!
>>
>> These cut down Boscos (yes, I think it's funny there's a cut down version
>> of a bar whose existence derives from its tallness) popped up on the Riv
>> email last week and there were 15 available and there was NO WAY I wasn't
>> going to be in The 15.
>>
>> Check out the shallow bend as it drops away from the clamp area. Looks
>> like a Noodle Bar, no? These are the 54cm, super comfy. There's a 48, too.
>>
>> Thanks for looking at my bike!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Single(speed) in Marin County CA.
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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones, Losco Bars

[Ed Fausto]

Very nice build Joe!
I better take a look at those Losco bars from Riv :-)

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Here's a neat bike I just built. Frame is circuitously courtesy of Ray
> Varella, with a stop with Eric in San Francisco before I acquired the
> rights.
>
> 51.5 x 54.4
> Sugino XD 152cm cranks (I'm a shorty believer) knocked down to a 36t ring
> and Silver guard, 18t freewheel.
> (I have a 16/19 DOS ENO on order and the cranks may end up 38/30, this was
> the stuff I had around for starters and so far the gearing works for me)
> Phil hubs, Mavic Open Pro rims,
> Compass Barlow Pass
> Silver nee Tektro R559 brakes, Avid levers
> Brooks B17 honey
> Nitto lugged post
> Technomic stem
> Ergon grips
> And last but not least...LOSCO!
>
> These cut down Boscos (yes, I think it's funny there's a cut down version
> of a bar whose existence derives from its tallness) popped up on the Riv
> email last week and there were 15 available and there was NO WAY I wasn't
> going to be in The 15.
>
> Check out the shallow bend as it drops away from the clamp area. Looks
> like a Noodle Bar, no? These are the 54cm, super comfy. There's a 48, too.
>
> Thanks for looking at my bike!
>
> Joe Bernard
> Single(speed) in Marin County CA.
>
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